Not Skinny But Not Fat - 90 Day Fiancé 101 w/ Loren Brovarnik

Episode Date: July 20, 2021

I’ve never watched 90 Day Fiancé but love Loren on Insta and wanted to hear firsthand about how she met her husband Alex, how they got on the show, what it’s like to film and deal with the lovers & haters on social media. Updates re Mandy Moore, Kravis, MGK & MF and more.  Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Amanda Hirsch from the Not Skinny but Not Fat podcast. You might know me from Not Skinny but on Instagram where I spend my time talking about reality TV, celebrities, everything happening and pop culture. I also talk to some of our favorite celebs and reality TV stars. We talk about what's going on. Tune in every Tuesday and just feel like you're talking about your best friends in your living room. Okay, you guys, before we start with today's guest, Lauren Bravarnick from 90-day fiancé, she's so fucking cute.

And I haven't watched 90-day fiancé, so I'm excited to, like, hear how the fuck it worked for the first time ever. I just wanted to talk about a few important updates about, like, my life, like my Instagram life, like things that you guys all know about. Okay. For those that have followed me for a very, very, very long time know about me being blocked by Mandy Moore. Yep. Most of you know that I was blocked by Mandy more a few years ago. One day I just found out somebody tried to send me your Instagram. I couldn't find out. I was like, oh my God, I'm blocked. For years, I was like, Mandy, I love you. I watch this is your favorite. I didn't know what I did. I like, don't remember I ever talked shit about her. It was like very confusing. And I always stood by the fact that I think it was a glitch. I was like, it's probably a glitch. No way she hates me. No way, this is real life. And I was spinning about it. As you guys know that I can spin forever. And then a colleague at Dear Media legit asked Mandy's friend who's also in the industry to ask Mandy to unblock me. I didn't even know of this. One day I go on a Dear Media call and she's like, hey, by the way, many more unblocked. And then I check and now I'm unblocked and I'm like shook. And I took

it as like the biggest gift of all time. And lovely, here I am following Mandy Moore. Just the other day, you guys, I fucking see that Mandy Moore, like life has come full circle and Mandy Moore is following me. Not only that, Mandy Moore DM'd me and said, I don't know what took me so long to follow, but thank you for making me laugh. If that's not a full fucking circle, you guys, I don't know what the fuck is. So I had to let you know. I had to let you know because those of you who were there for my spinning of Mandy Moore, blocking me than I mean it's just full circle like who would have thought again just something that I never thought would happen in my entire fucking life just like I never thought I would be

DMing with Courtney Kardashian just the other day she posted about P's birthday and I responded with like an you know emotional Gen Z emotional emoji and like okay you guys I fucking emojied, okay, a response. And she answered my emoji response and was like, oh my God, I can't tolerate it. And I was like, oh my God, it goes so fast. And then she wrote back like, oh, thank you. It really does go too fast. So, okay, I just want to tell you where I'm at with my relationship with Courtney, because on one hand, like, yes, is it excite me? Yes. Am I trying to stay grounded and remember, you know, where I am and appreciate every moment? Yes. And then, you know, she does watch my stories. She doesn't follow. Obviously, they only follow, like, a few people.

Somebody did let me know the other day that Tracy and C.C. follow me. And those of you who are DiHard Kardashians know that C.C. is like their aunt, like Chris's cousin. She has been really sick. She's so sweet. She follows like only the family and fucking me. And Tracy Ramellis, I'm probably saying her last name wrong. She works with Kim on Skins and almost everything. KKW. She also follows me. So I'm pretty much in the fucking fam. Like this is a big deal for us. But I've been feeling lately like, yes, when I see Courtney watching my stories, it is a bit of a mixed emotion because, you know, on one hand, I'm like flattered. On the other hand, I'm like, it's kind of like when your mom watches your stuff. Like, I'm kind of like, I don't want you to like see all the stupid shit. Like I just posted about Travis Barker's height. And then I see her little face on the bottom. Like, do I need her to be seeing every single fucking stupid shit I post about her life? But at the same time, I'm kind of feeling like when she fucking likes a picture of me and like Noah, then we can move forward in our friendship. Until then, I feel like a fan account and she's like watching to see shit that I

post about her. That's the conclusion I came to the other day while I'm like high in the sky, my head is so big. I'm so fucking excited about this. And I know it's a big deal and I'm appreciating every second. I'm like, wait Amanda, you're a fucking loser. You're a fucking fan account. And she's like, oh my God, thank you.

And she's watching your stories to see herself appear in them. And that's how I'm feeling the last few days. I am, like she can win me over at any fucking second, which she has. So that was my latest update as of yesterday. I was like, fuck the shit. I'm a fucking fan account because I got excited when like Travis watched my stories or Travis liked something. And then I see him doing that to like actual fan accounts.

And I'm like, wait, I'm a fucking fan account. He does that to like, they're loving seeing shit about themselves. What is comments by celebs tagline? Even celebs love celebs. Like they love themselves. They want to see shit about themselves. And I was like, Amanda, don't take it as a fucking compliment. It's not about you.

Even though if you guys do remember, her DM to me said that I was like hilarious and she loves me and she feels like we're best friends. But yeah, the other day I was like, I don't feel loved. I feel used. But then fast forward to today, I'm like, just yesterday, I don't remember what it was. Oh, I was telling my sister Ariel about the Manny Moramas and she was like, well, how did you see it? Because like my DMs are so crazy. And I was like, somehow like the verified accounts just like pop up and like I see what I. I need to see somehow, even though I miss so many of your guys's messages, somehow like verified

accounts or like accounts with big followings pop up first or something. They go right into the main box or something. So I go to Ariel like so compliment. I was like, Ariel, I see what I got to see. Okay. See what I got to say. Today I'm like, look, swifting through my messages, all of a sudden I see a message from fucking push. Okay. Then I see that I missed a message from push from a fucking month ago asking me what my address is and like my size and all this shit. And I'm like, are you fucking kidding me? I miss a fucking message from Push. And just the other day, I was like complaining about Push not sending me like a like a PR.

I said like my relationship with Courtney isn't as close. I thought I'm not even getting a Push box. Meanwhile, I had missed a message from Push from a month ago, like even before I said that. So it was funny because I had just woken up from a nap. So I responded to Pooge as if it was like my sister being like, oh my God, I can't believe my miss this. Like is it still okay? like literally like a loser they were like seriously what's your address like relax but anyway it's

for a box for the fall so i'm like i still made it in time for cutoff like literally a huge loser they were like what's your address and your size very exciting stuff can't wait to see what's in the fucking box better fucking see courtney's handwriting god knows i know her fucking handwriting by heart so i'll know i'll know if it's personalized a f there's no room for mistakes there a couple other things before we get started. Southern Charm, crazy shit. Rumor came out last week that Matool, Cheetah and Naomi,

from Southern Tarm, I was like, oh, you know me. It's not confirmed until it's not confirmed. Then it was fucking confirmed by her. Well, basically, she wiped her Instagram clean of all of his pictures. It's like the first move public people do or not even public people, everyone.

I can't believe that's like the first move. I feel like I would do other stuff before that. But anyway, wiped clean, except pictures that had him, but also, like, her father who had passed away, I can totally see that. Like, even though you hate the fucking guy, you're like, I'm not going to delete a sentimental moment of my father who passed away because of this tool. Matul, me, tool. Anyway, I hated Matul all along. He was a huge tool. He told her not to eat a cookie.

He didn't want to be on the show. Pretty sure that because of him, she didn't continue with the show. But listen, no one deserves to be cheated on. I feel bad for her. But let's not forget, she was kind of bitchy to Craig, even though Craig was going through his own shit. But I remember at the end, she kind of rubbed me the wrong way just because she was really not accepting of his sewing and kind of like talked down to him and kind of you could tell

that she felt better than him. So anyway, she moved with Matole to New York and he, she found out that he had cheated on her. She found, like, vile text messages between him and another woman, seemingly his ex, and maybe even like sexual photos or maybe even sexual videos. She did write a story about on Instagram. She said that she's broken. And then she wrote another story that you quickly deleted saying to stop harassing what tool on social media. But then she deleted it. So I'm like, wait, so should we harass him? Meanwhile, Craig and Paige, Conover and Paige Disover of Summer House are obviously together and they're still kind of trying to act really coy and hush-hush about it. I don't really

get it. I don't get why. Like, I get that today in the age of social media, um, while filming a reality show, it's hard to like keep things quiet and then like not leave any mystery. But at the same time, like, relax. Like, fucking come out with it. It's so wild because I'm friendly with Craig and he had DM'd me, uh, before she came to Charleston one time. And he was like, hey, Amanda, like the rooms around me and Paige. Like, I just wanted you to hear for me. It's like not, you know, it's not true. She's coming as a friend. Like nothing happened. People like spin. I was like, oh, Craigie, that's so sweet that you thought of me. Like, I'll marry you what? And then literally like, no, they're full on together. So like, thanks Craig

for trying to fucking like tame me. So I wouldn't like spin. So kind of, kind of don't understand why they're trying so hard to keep it hush-hash. Maybe we'll find out why. Maybe something goes down in Winter House and it's like a huge storyline. Maybe Bravo made it. very clear to them they need to shut the fuck up. But anyway, those are, that's, and that's the tea. So here is my interview with Lauren. She's so fucking cute. And I hope you guys enjoy it. You guys, I'm so happy that so many things have become less taboo in our world. And one of those things is fertility. People are talking more about it, being open and honest about it, because everyone's journey and fertility journey is different.

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Okay. So I didn't watch 90 day fiance. Everybody kill me at the stake. But I didn't watch it either. It's a very, a true story. Alex has never seen an, I think I like, he's seen like one or two episodes and I've seen a handful. Stop.

I swear, we don't even watch pillow talk. Okay, re-fucking wind. Lauren Brevardik on the pod today. Yeah. Known from 90-day fiancé. That's me. That's you. Which, like, we have so much to talk about.

So we met, I feel like we met, so we got blessed, hashtag bless, by knowing a freaking sweet ass Instagram aunt woman named Pat. Yeah, we have the same auntie. Auntie Patty. Auntie Patty who like. And cousin Courtney. Like that we just, so this amazing, I mean, there's so many good things that come from being on Instagram and some bad things, which we both experience.

I feel like a lot of the same. things but but she just a lovely woman who's had many uh adventures and one of them is designer handbags that we've gotten a few and I feel like she tried to connect us for so long for very long time she would like send me yourself or she would be like I told Lauren about you she thought this was funny and I feel like we just like got missed for so long that it was like oh that's so cute oh she's so that's so great and then um we were brought together by just stuff that was happening in Israel, right? Yeah.

Yes. Like I had actually, I will fan girl for a second because I followed you for such a long time. And I was like, oh my God. Angie Patty is like, reach out to her and I'm like, no, she's like not skinny but not fat. Like I don't think you understand. She was like, Lauren, it's Amanda. She's like the coolest girl. So I definitely like fan girls when we got connected through our mutual friend, Violet.

And, you know, just the. the heavens have opened and here we are. And here we are. Oh, my God. I didn't even know that. I didn't even know that. Oh, my God. I've seen girl hard.

Oh, my God. Lauren. Keep going. I know. I was very discreet about it. But secretly, I remember telling Alex. I was like, Alex, I don't think you understand like the group chat I'm in right now. And he was like, what do you mean?

I was like, just don't act like you care, but care because I care. Wait, does he get it? Is he like in the Instagram? Does he care, like, I know he's on Pillow Talk with you. You met a 90-day, which I want to talk a little bit about that. I want you to, like, school me on the whole thing. But does he care about your Instagram life, like that you're an influencer? So it's funny because, like, I don't even look at myself as an influencer, honestly,

because, like, I still work and I'm just a really normal person, whatever normal is. But he's just like, he was so not wrapped up in it. And now he's like, I have almost 800,000 followers. And I was like, well, what are you going to do with that? Like, you know, like he doesn't understand my husband, Alex Barbaranick, a man of many words, has almost 800,000 followers. What are you going to do with it? And I think he gets it. Nothing.

I'm going to be doing it. I'm going to be his manager. That, wait, so you still work, which I find so fucking admirable. I know this is going to sound to a lot of people like, oh, my God, shut the fuck up, Amanda. But, like, it really is because I've, I remember, like, being at like, I don't know. 10, no, I don't even care. Whatever followers I was at and I would see a girl being like, once I reached 100 K, I quit my job.

And I remember being like, and I remember being like, really? Like, I don't know. No one's like no one's talking to me. Like, no, but then, you know, I reached the 100K or whatever. And it's honestly, I mean, obviously people care about your number of followers. But speaking of someone with past, A, it's a content. and be like nothing like happens like automatically and I don't know who was quitting her job at 100k and what offers she was getting that we're sustaining her life but but I do still even

though that sounds like chuggy of me admire the fact that you were because we were scheduling this podcast and you're like well I'm turning off the phones at five so it'll be a five 10 I was like okay one phone goes off and the kids start screaming so it never ended wait so full time job Lauren? I work a full-time job nine to five from home, Monday through Friday. And then we film and then I'm a wife and a mom and pregnant. I cook. I clean.

I do laundry. I handle our social media. Our schedule. Like, this is me dressed up. Okay. Wait, but what do you can ask what you do?

I'm an assistant. That's all I tell people. Because there are some things I need to keep private. Don't people love to know? What are you doing me, me, me, me, me, me, me. Like, they love to know. to know. Yeah. Nobody. Well, you share a lot. Because I don't think you need to. Yeah. No, 100%. And you never know in this world. Like, I feel like I was so naive for my first few years. Like, I'd practically give out my social security number. I'm an open book, you know? And then, and then you're like, wait, could this be used against me by God forbid somebody who hates me? Like, that can't be. But no, it can. You know? And I will tell you this. It's funny. say influencer right i don't see myself as an influencer i definitely don't see myself as famous whereas

some people would and people have gone to expense of like searching our building or i've literally had a woman drive around my block and say i've been look i i swear to god i was walking she was i have been driving around here for weeks hoping i'd run into and i was like okay that's it's kind of you but like I'm slightly fucking freaking out you know and then people go to such length on LinkedIn if I don't answer an email or a message but like I'm so busy not that I'm trying to be rude or ignore but people literally go to such length because I feel like I'm just like a regular working person I'm wondering if what is the fandom of 90 day like what kind of people are they? Because I feel like

different. Oh, it's really, okay, so there's not like a type of person. No, like real celebrities, not like me, like real celebrities talk about 90 day fiance. Lady Gaga said if she watched any show 90 day fiance. Chrissy Teigen, Alex and I had the honor of going to her house

like two years ago for a Hulu campaign with her. She was like, oh my God, I know all about you. And I was like, please do tell me. It's like, you know, like it's so mind-blowing, but I think if Alex and I had tried to get on it now, it would be a lot harder because, like, we're, I'm, I'm the one that's like a month and a half older, but it's not like a big enough age gap, you know, like we're genuinely happy and love each other. And not to say that all the other couples aren't, but it definitely evolved over the years. We tell me how it works,

because from what I understand, you were on birthright, like every other Jewish, basic as a bitch, and you took it to the next level and you fell in love with an Israeli. Was he like the guard of your trip? He was my security. He was my security guard slash medic. And I, the two things in life my parents asked me not to do, I did. One was marrying an Israeli man and she was get a tattoo. I did them both and they love him both.

Wait, why did they not want you to marry an Israeli man? Well, you know, like growing up, I grew up in Parkland, Florida. Like I lived a very sheltered life. I grew up in a bubble and everything is stereotyped, right? Like the stigmas that they're very macho and like there where no way little does he know. Hi, hello. You know, Ema over here. But and he's just like the best.

He's the best guy ever. He drives me nuts. He's such a gentleman most of the time. Wait, can I just tell you that my mom watches 90 Day? Oh, my God. So funny on its own. Like she doesn't watch anything. I don't know how she got to the show, whatever.

So I told her about you. And she was like, oh, Lauren. And she's like, pillow talk. And she was like, shy seems like a much calmer baby than Noah. And then I was like, really? I only show the good stuff. Okay. I was like, mom, how do you know?

And she was just like, it seems like shy is so much chiller than the Noah. Chill, no. But he does love looking at himself. And that he gets from me. So when he sees, like, if we're, I have a commercial on our face, pop up, he, like, points. And he's like, oh. And I'm like, wow, you hate yourself, don't you? Wait, so, okay.

So you're on the birthright trip. What age did you go? I went as a participant at 22, so a long time ago. As a staff leader, I was 25. Oh, so you met Alex when you were a staff leader? Yes. Okay. So he was a medic because every group.

every birthright group gets like a chaperone or whatever and by the way you guys Jewish girls know this there's always the story about the girls hooking up with the soldiers and let me tell you this I tell this to single friends and go no not only birthright but like even me which I know you guys are going to blown away like I didn't get a lot of like guys not in high school not in college like yeah when I get like things like she peaked in high school like no I didn't bitch nobody fucking wanted me in high school I was also surprised my confidence was so high then I was like nobody wants to get with that nobody wanted to get with it so weird I know um and my backup plan was always like well if no one likes me here I'll just go to Israel like I always knew that if I wanted to get dudes at the end of the day it's a flight away that's how I felt wow that's interesting I am kind of shocked by this to tell you the American guys I don't know they never got me they always thought I was like a lot they always thought I was like weird I don't know I did have I wasn't you know I had weird phases and stuff but um but in Israel I would land it would be like fucking line be like oh my god and then my husband all right. Alex was just supposed to be a hookup. It was just supposed to be a hookup.

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Okay. So you met him. So you met him. and then what tell us. I want to know everything. So we met and I will never break. So Alex and I both used to smoke. We used to be heavy smokers.

And that man, he was standing there in his outfit, smoking a cigarette. And I was like, good God, you are a smoke show. Like, no pun intended. And I was like, you got a light. Like, I hate flying. I was heavily medicated. I looked ridiculous. Like a cheated neck pillow on and an eye mask that said, do not disturb.

And I was like, are you our medic? And he was like, yeah. I was like, God, you are so. fucking hot. I swear to God, that's exactly what I said. You said it to him? I said it to his face, like I was thinking out loud and it just came out. Or you're on medication? Yeah, I blame my medication, but also the fact that he was so hot.

And so I get on the bus and he gets on the bus. I was like, you can sit here, like right next to me. Skyler, who was actually in our wedding in Florida, he was my co-sap and he's got a girlfriend. And I looked at him. I was like, do you have a girlfriend? He goes, no. And I was like, that's it. Like, that's it. It was just supposed to be a hookup. And over the course of the 10 days, I was like, God, I can't explain it. And I can explain everything. To this day, I can't explain it. I ended up extending my stay for a week with him in Tel Aviv. And, but when I left that trip,

I knew I was going to marry him. I knew. You hooked up with him. Is that against the rules as a staff? I don't know for a staff for participants, yes, but like I was staff later. And I knew that I was going to just be with him forever whether he liked it or not so okay so you hooked statement i love how you were like extended for a whole week bitch i extended for like five years i stayed with my fucking like i worked i couldn't i wish i could i wish i know that's the thing it would it would i was telling my sister the other day like what like yes when i met my husband it was kind of like when people asked me how did you know as kitchy as it is it was kind of like even though i was 22. I was like, in not a cheesy way and kind of like, wait, I think this like, I'm not going

to leave this guy. Like, he's the guy I'm supposed to be with kind of vibe. But I didn't have anything to go back to. So it was kind of like, I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say. I'm just going to say. Okay. So you went back thinking you're going to do long distance. We were long distance for about a year. I went to Israel five times in one year. Three of them. we're on a birthright trip and I extended and then two of them I went by myself. Well, he paid for it because like

Was he working? He wanted to see this. Right. Obviously. Was he working or was he like? So he was working and he was doing the whole security guard thing.

So I went based around his trip. And whenever I went, his company would make sure that he would be on a trip like parallel to mine. So I could see him. Like everybody knew. it's a business you know so how does that you go from law so what was the plan in place like what was okay what was your plan so our plan was originally he was going to apply for a travel

visa and he did and he got denied twice so at that point we're like okay well our options are either let's file for a k1 visa or i'll go there if it gets denied and i'll go there and like see how it works and you know luckily he got approved and then he came here we had the 90 day period to you know get married and i had planned what do you mean what do you mean we had the 90 day period what do you think 90 day fiance oh i don't know how'd you get on it oh my gosh about that 90 day fiance is based on a k1 visa k1 visa grants 90 days to america for you to get married wait wait i'm going to blow your mind even more his visa got delayed and he arrived 35 days before our wedding wait and here we are we'll marry six years

wait so so you apply for the for the visa and it takes 90 days no okay the visa takes months like for us it took eight months or 10 months for him to get approved interviews appointments everything once he gets approved and books his ticket here we have 90 days to get married from the day he landed in America. So how do you get on the show? I wrote to them. What does it give you any like benefit to, to go on the show? Like, does it help or is it?

Well, so we've been on TV. It'll be six years already. That's crazy. That's crazy. Years ago, I was like, okay, cool. You know, what an amazing opportunity. It was obviously meant to be out there, you know. And so I was like, I have nothing to lose. Why don't I write them? Because I was. watching the show. It was only two seasons at that point. And my roommate was like, you should apply. Like, you're kind of going through this and hopefully you'll get approved. So we did it thinking that it will help other people who are going through the K1Bs and show them that, you know, it's not easy. But if you work for it, it'll happen with time. And here we are. That is wild.

I'm sure everyone is like throwing eggs at like listening to this, like throwing eggs at me for not knowing, but I'm kind of happy that I'm discovering this with you. I thought that it was like, I thought, you know how there's that show married at first sight? Yeah. And all that shit. So I thought it was like the same idea like you meet your fiance and you're engaged for 90 days and then you have to get married. No. So it's always couples that are together from before and then have to go. Yeah. I mean, so people like now people like meet online and different ways now because of, you know, society and what's happening in the world. But Alex and I knew each other.

We were dating for like over a year before we got engaged. So you have to get married with this K1 visa. You have to. Or they get deported. So you have 90 days from when you get the thing to get married. When you get to America, you have 90 days to get married. And they track it. So what happened with Alex with the 35 days?

So when when he got approved. we figured out okay so that's when I was like fine I'm going to leave New York you're going to move here like we're going to start our lives together oh you were in New York at that time not in Florida York on the Upper East Side shut the fuck up where 70th and first babe five and a half years I lived in the same apartment mind blowing that's mind blowing wait why did you live in how are you living in New York I worked there oh you came you graduated most of my families from there you know like All of the Yantas were all, my dad's from Queens. My mom's from Rockland County, like Spring Valley. We're all from. And I actually lived in Jersey until I was nine. Oh, okay. So you wanted to live in New York and not stand Florida.

After college. After college. Yeah. I went a marketing advertising. So I went up there and then, you know, fast forward, Alex gets approved. So based on when he got approved, I was like, okay, so you'll move on this day because I'm going to move back. So I'm going to Israel.

I was going to pack him up on a birthright trip. I was extending going to pack him up. And his visa got delayed because there was like something with the system. So at this time, I had already planned our wedding, figured out a date that allowed 90 days from when I think he's going to come. And he showed up 35 days before our wedding. And how long were you together at that point? So that's like how it works. So we were together.

We met in December of 2013. yeah and got engaged January 2015 so essentially a year later oh okay so a year later and he moved here July July of 2015 actually 10 days from now is his sixth anniversary here so how long so when did you start filming and how long was the filming process we start so before he got approved we met in Canada because I needed to see him and he couldn't come here and I was not schlepping to Israel again and my parents were like listen if you're marrying this guy like we need to meet him

physically in person so we all met in Canada and at that point I did not know if he had been approved or not yet like that really could have been my last time seeing him or I was going to move to Israel like we had a plan if it didn't work out this way I was going to go there and

we were going to see how if we like are compatible oh my God I know so at what point do you start It's like a movie. So at what point do you start filming? We started filming a few months before he got here when we went to Canada. That was our very first episode.

And that was my parents' first time meeting him. Do you know that I have some memory? It's so, I was like, told my husband, I was like, I think you saw this episode with me. And he, like, doesn't remember. So I don't think it was with him. Did it air in Israel as well? Do you know if it aired in Israel? Yeah.

Okay. I'm thinking, like, I remember some sort of a scene with both of you. and he's like smoking a cigarette and like I don't know if you were like in a fight like I don't remember but I oh my God yes I know that episode oh my God that's the were you like in a basement I don't know I'm having this like vision of some like dark underground place like I don't know so that was my bachelorette party episode where I thought for sure he was going to go back and and since then we don't really do you know bachelor's or bachelor parties oh my god I need to I feel like this is so interesting, so interesting.

But I've evolved over the years. I've matured and grown up. You're saying Amanda, if you go back and watch it, don't judge me. Don't judge me. Again, we didn't really watch it. And to this day, we don't really watch Pillow Talk because we don't want it to change us. Like what you see on Pillow Talk, that's us. One million percent.

We don't watch it because we don't want it to change who we are and how we are. Is Pillow Talk talking about the other couples, like doing like an after show? Yeah, it's like people are watching our commentary. Do you talk shit? I'm living every girl's drinking. But do you know if they hate you for talking shit? I don't. But, I mean, it's like, it's not talking shit.

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and getting away with it. Listen, it is easy judging people and also publicly if nobody knows that you're doing it. Once people know, it's like that's the life I live now of like, you know, when my account was smaller, it was like I could say whatever I wanted. And now I could still do that, but it's with the knowledge of I need to know. I need to, I need a quick filter of like, are you okay that the person you're talking about it will see this? Like that's how far my brain needs to go.

It used to be like, oh, someone of someone, of someone. No, literally the way social media works today is like, if I'm talking about Hilaria Baldwin, I need to know that she could be watching it and fucking voodooing me, like hating, hating me. Like, I need to know that if I say something about Courtney, she's there. I see Courtney's face on the bottom of my stories. You know what happens to me? You, like, shit your pants and, like, butterflies at the same time.

Yes. Exactly, because I want her to do it, but I also don't want her to. I want to be like, stop, mom, I'm trying to, like, do stuff. Stop looking. But it's hard these days. And I know, you know, we've been connecting because we've experienced it. And, you know, it's funny because talk about judging, like people judge behind a screen these days, but we'll never say to our face, like all the criticism we've dealt with lately.

people are so big and bad behind a screen, but they won't say it to your face. But then it's like, you're judging me for, you're doing the same thing I'm doing. You know, what I mean? Except I'm public about it and I'm honest about it. And I'm not going to waste my time being a troll, you know? I really think this. I think it's really okay to talk shit. It's really okay.

I really generally think. Everybody does it. But like, if you're going to talk shit about me, don't tag me. do I see it? Like, be smart about it, you know? Like,

they'll tag me. Unless they want you to, because then they get the rise out of you. I know. No, I've seen you clap back. I've seen you clap back. I think like just the other day,

what did you clap back? Somebody was like, somebody said to you. I was shy having down syndrome. Accusing her from having down syndrome. No, I didn't see that. Are you fucking kidding me?

A lot of people will actually screenshoted the text because it was, and I usually don't get involved with this at all, but like, this one person was so annoying and saying that like shy has down syndrome and he doesn't and you know what I know people have kids with down syndrome and they're the sweetest babies ever it's not the end of the world like how dare you say something like the end of the world and they said I said well I what did my baby ever do to you and they wrote nothing your baby looks disabled nothing wrong with it and like it's just it's so mind-blowing what does it say love and light in their bio mother

to isabel and yeah like a bible verse and something like that that's so fucked up but that wasn't what i was talking about and literally don't pay attention those people like no i don't i'm curious to think of what care what you know the one i saw was was more lighthearted it was like why do you post so many pictures of yourself and you were like it's my fucking page And then she kept going. She was like, but that just shows you're conceded. And it's like, this is my Instagram page. I'm conceded for posting selfies.

Like my favorite are like, why are you holding your belly? Because I've nowhere else to put my hands right now. Like I have a little, you know, a little lap here. And I'm going to hold my baby as much as I want on my page where I share pictures of me. No, literally, Lauren is so cute. You literally share your life. life. And I know it's annoying when people say relatable, but even though I did call you an influencer, I know it's an annoying word. But you, I mean, you have a million something followers.

People, you know, want to see what you're up to every day. People want to buy what you recommend. So, babe, you're an influencer. It doesn't matter. And I don't, I never promote something I haven't used and wouldn't mind putting my name on. Like, literally, I have been known to turn down things because it's not me. yeah so everything I share is stuff I personally use 100% I also yeah it's like no I'm not gonna like I was sent like a tooth well it said it like wanes your teeth and I was like okay send it to me and then they sent me this like pick and I'm like at home trying to like see how it's annoying and I'm like no what is this um but anyway That is an amazing, amazing story. I feel like, I told you, I was like, when are you inviting us to Florida? So our husband.

Say hi. Oh. Hi, Alex. What's going to have a guest appearance here. Alex, now you know, I'm talking about Hebrew. Oh, I'm an Israeli. How do you know? My name.

I'm the point with my grandma, I'm sharing her side. My wife. kids I love no. Wait, so you. Wow. I'm just a friend. Well, my God. Is that Alex with 800K? And you told me, okay, so his English is also so good. I think I, I, like, shamed my husband. I was like, listen to his English. Because my husband has been here for six years, too, and he's so shy. And his job is pretty like, like, he's like in, like he works by himself. So he's not like really. speaking English in a lot of places. And he watches like Israeli TV all day. So he's like in this. So he's in this, his own little bubble. Let me tell you.

It's hard to make friends when you're older when you have new kids. Or like when you're in that in between days. Like I remember, but before shy, Alex and I were so awkward. And I, hard to believe I was in the popular click growing up. So like I just like you I would like bald and have this confidence and now I'm like Why doesn't anybody want to be my friend? You know like it was so awkward And Alex I was like make friends with Israelis like when he first moved here to like get out He's like I don't know how to do that I was like go on Facebook Instagram with the world is Instagram

Like he didn't know we don't know how to make friends and so it wasn't until like we started he started working that he really blossomed. And when I say that, I mean, now that we drink, he drinks whiskey on pillow talk, he really has blossomed over the years. So, with his 800K. With his 800K? I want to know the ratio. Is it like 90% women? Yeah. He needs to provide. He needs to post like shirtless, you know, picks and that's what I said. And he's like, no, Lauren. I got to keep them. mystery. I was like, oh, God, Alex, fucking 50 shades of gray over here. My husband went up, like, you know, some of my followers are following him, even though

he, like, doesn't do anything on there. And sometimes he'll be like, I need to post something. Like, I haven't, you know, provided content in a while. I'm like, literally, nobody cares about you. It's so funny because you're so opposite. Like, I feel like I'm listening to me and Alex. Like, I'm there like, Alex, just like, walk in without a shirt. No, don't film me. Don't film me. And I'm like, I'm already filming you. I'm so sorry. Oh my God. No, but he's the same way.

He doesn't want anything to do with the camera. Anything. Anything. Anything. It's like wild. But it's the same way. We were talking when you started that you're like, you know, be with shy. And he's like, how long?

When are you done? It's like, when are you? I'm done now. I'm leaving. And you're having another baby with this man. Wait, pause for reaction. Yeah. My husband asked my doctor.

With me there on the table, is it possible to do three under three? I about took that gel from the ultrasound and threw it at him. I was like, are you kidding? The doctor said, I mean, it's possible. I said, not in this family. Not in this family. So he wants a lot of babies? He wants like for minimum.

And I was like, hmm, he's for you to say. Okay, sir. So I told him, because I'm having another boy. I will go for a girl. But if it's a boy, I'm done still. And he goes, you really don't want to go for a girl. I'm like, I, yeah, after three, I'm done. But did you hear that you can like kind of plan it?

That's what I told him. I was like, it's up to you. Like, have a pep talk with your swimmers. Like, let's figure something out. New moon, full moon, half moon. I don't care. Positions, whatever. Like, let's do it.

Wait, how old is shy right now? 15 months tomorrow. 15 months. So that means you got pregnant with your baby. What? On purpose? I'm like due next month. We were trying.

We were trying. And it happened very quick. And I'm very thankful and I'm lucky. But this baby now, he is measuring so big. He is in the 75th percentile for height and weights. He's coming a lot sooner than we hope. he he's measuring three weeks ahead of schedule you don't know what the way is to eat i don't know

i don't know i'm not going to like you know share that but i'm measuring ahead of time oh my god i mean ouch is what i got to say he's like breaking my back already and he's not even here well you look gorgeous and i literally at the beginning like forgot you were pregnant for a second because you really... It's the sloy top. It's so funny. Wow. Look at that.

No, it looks so gone on. That's the thing as kitsy as it is. Like there's something about a bum that like is so cute, you know? It depends. I rock it. I mean, as much as I can. Like I wear bikinis. I don't wear thongs because like God knows what's happening back there.

But like my dimples have dimples. And it's okay. I'm embracing it, you know? but I'm so lucky I don't have stretch marks. I blather, leather every day. And I do. I wear a bikini. I rock that crop top that, you know,

it's now like a bra on me and I don't care. I feel more comfortable wearing body pants. We talked about your belly button ring like popping out in 2.2 seconds. Oh, it's not coming out. It's not coming out until the doctor says them. He knows. I'm very particular about these things. Oh, my God, another boy.

Let me tell you, boys are freaking wild, you guys. Like, boys, it's, um, they say girl, it's definitely more physical, right? And people are like, you're going to love having boys because, like, they're so much easier when they're teenagers. And then I'm thinking, I don't know. If they have mine and Alex's personality, like, we're fucked. Totally. Boy or girl.

Three under three, that motherfucker. he had of his mind he said because i told him i was like i am not going to be this pregnant in the summer again i refuse it in florida he's like well it's not up to you i said oh is it though it's not up to me really no so i told him you're going to knock me up in the summer and then i'll go through pregnancy he goes wait so we have to wait a year i'm like consider yourself lucky i'm even saying that I mean yeah it's really easy for guys to say because of so many reasons like a they don't have to be pregnant b they don't have to give birth see their life it's not dad dad dad it's mom mom right even go to the freaking bathroom and see like it doesn't matter even like you know take the extreme

like the most involved dad that does everything with the kid and whatever still when you're a mom, you're, you're the, like, if the kid is with mom and dad, they'll go to mom and ask for the thing. Like, it's just, the way, mom does everything. Mom does everything. It's way more responsibility. Alex is a very hands on dad. Like, I honestly could not have been luckier and ask for a better partner. Like, I know I'd give him a hard time and I joke. That's what we do. But he's such a good dad. And I'm very lucky. But you're right. Mom, mom, mom, mom. Oh, I just, I just, who taught him the phrase three under three? That's like, no, forget it out of your vocabulary.

Three minimum. He said, he goes, you know, three's really an odd number. We should just go for four. And I said, well, if you give me twins, then you'll get your four until then. Oh, that's done. That's the thing. My sister got, my sister got randomly pregnant with twins. Like, she got pregnant, goes to the doctor.

I thought she was like, pranking me. And then she comes out, she's like, oh, my God, two heartbeats. I'm like, what? like in the movie she's like yeah legit like went in like her peer was like whatever went in they were like there too and let me tell you when you're pregnant with twins it's a fucking blessing on one hand obviously but it just feels like so much more stress going into it like you need a you need a car for like seven people you need like it's just wild okay sorry about all the baby talk everyone who doesn't have babies Lauren what shows do you watch

Okay, I actually, I'm a binger. I'm such a binge watcher. Alex and I just binned Sons of Anarchy. Obsessed. Oh, my God. Amazing. If you haven't watched it, watched it. But I just finished on my own younger, okay, with Hillary Depp. Okay, first off, what a beautiful cast. Okay, let's just discuss that. Because, oh, my God. Second off, I felt like I was reliving my time in New York. And as a, I call myself hormotional because I'm hormonal and emotional right now. I sat there eating popcorn crying and then like eating chocolate cover pretzels because I was like, I really want that again. Do I miss that? And I was like, but I'm so happy. I have a family. Like, it was such a mess, but I highly recommend that show.

Oh my God. I need to binge it. Where do you binge it? And you live in New York. So you'll get it. Yeah. You'll get it. So where do you watch younger?

Where do you binge younger? Hulu. Oh, really? Okay. It was seven seasons, and I finished it in like three weeks. Stop. With the full-time job, with the pregnant, with the baby. Because I can't sleep at night.

So I watch it at night. And then you get hooked and you're like, okay, cool, it's for you. I'm time to wake up. And you're watching, you told me you're watching Israeli shows, too. Yes. So we just started the Big Brother. Yeah. The Israel Big Brother.

I don't know what they're saying. I can't believe. I can't believe. been very good at translating. I really can't believe you're going to watch a show that you can understand what they're saying. And what do you mean he's going to translate? What every line he's going to say to you? So he does a recap of the scene.

So like we did this with the VIP survivor. It was so good. And towards the end, I felt like I understood what was happening by their body language and their gestures. But then I realized Israelis, they don't, they're not yelling. They're talking. And one gets louder than the other. So I was just like, all right, cool. It's not a fight.

it's fine but we watched it and I loved it and for me I think the more I hear it the more I kind of pick up more and more words and for shy we Alex speaks predominantly Hebrew and Russian to him oh and Russian yeah so it's really important that shy hears it and like I'm not kidding he'll watch the news with Alex like in awe you know like oh my God just like in awe. And I put on cartoons. I don't know where how. I just,

Alex showed me how to get to the channels. And it works. Yeah. No, it's hard. Listen, when you think of languages in general, you're like,

how does a kid learn one language? Like, how do you even teach a baby anything? Nevertheless, like two languages, nevertheless, three. And we live in South Florida,

where it's a lot of Spanish. So he's hearing that too. Wild. freaking wild. Did you watch, um, so I watched sex life finish that. I didn't watch it. You need to watch it. You need to watch it, but not with Alex. I heard it's like a light porno. Yeah. Don't watch it if you're like, if you're horny, then great. If you're like, Alex, not these days. So if you're like Alex get away from me, don't watch it with him because like my husband thought we were in the show and like I had to like literally. Maybe postpartum.

to get like my juju back. I'll watch it like after I get the clearance because right now I'm just so hot and heavy and my poor husband, but I'm just like, don't touch me. Oh my God, literally. From the outside, one from the inside. No, it's, it is hard. It is hard. Even postpartum, like my boobs are, you know, whenever he touches my boobs, I'm kind of all

I'm picturing is like Noah on like sucking milk out of there. And it's really hard to, you know, be. your sexual, get out of that mindset. I think I'll save sex life for postpartum, like when I'm ready to get back into it, honestly. When you're ready to do the third out of the third? Wait, so no Bravo shows for you? Oh, my God, Real Housewives, duh. Beverly Hills, like, I can't.

I love Beverly Hills. What else am I watching? Oh, you know what I love? The Hills reboot. Thank you. Thank you. I haven't watched it. And, oh my God, I love it because I feel like I'm reliving my youth, you know?

Really? You're making your youth sound like legit. I'm chugy. I'm chugy, okay? I embrace it. I own it. I wear skinny jeans when I can. You know, I wear tight-died socks.

I don't care. I am so chuggy and I'm okay with it. But I watch the hills because it reminds me of when I was a teenager. I watched Yes to Key. I love siesta key and I cannot wait for selling sunset to come back oh my god yes last week I had Chris shell on from selling sunset she follows you I'm like oh my gosh yeah she's so she's so sweet she wouldn't talk shit I was really trying to get her to talk shit like really trying even in our DMs I was like no but tell me like how much you hate Christine she wouldn't no I love Christine I message her

and Mary's. Everybody's so nice. No, Mary is really nice. Mary is so, yeah, so nice. So excited for selling sunset. She said, she told me when it's coming back and now I forgot. Oh my God. I was on my last podcast in the fall, in the fall sometimes. So we have, we have some time. Are you into like the Kardashian, all the Cravis content or are you like Amanda quit it? No. So here's the thing. I am for happiness. I think the Cravis thing is great, but I personally prefer Megan and Machine Dun Kelly. Like if I had to choose a couple, I would rather watch them like make out than Cravis. But I love the Tardashian. Everybody says that I sound like them or look like them or I get Milak Kunis or Jabar. I don't know. I just take it because it's like it's such calm. Oh, my God,

I could see the way you talk being a little Drew. Very Drew with a little bit of Mila. I could see that. Yes. Okay, so I've been feeling something lately that I want to share with everyone, which is that I know I'm like obsessed with Kravis, whatever, whatever. I've just been feeling lately like it's a lot, like just the last few days. Like, I feel like I need them to be a little bit more hard to get again. I hear you.

I hear you. It's like they're, you know, it's like she posts and then he reposed the post and then she was she reposed the post that he should. shared that she posted with another heart it's like it becomes this like inception they're like teenage love yeah like and then she like put the vampire teeth in that he put in and then they tonged each other at the ufc and i didn't know how i felt about it i was like is this hot is it's not hot but then you're like it i don't know how i felt about it i'm for pda i really am but i know like now because i'm chugie and married and old and like knocked up again that like i don't do

PDA because I also don't go anywhere because like, you know, but I would prefer to see Megan Fox and Wait, you're more attracted to Megan than you are to Courtney or you're more attracted to MGK than you are to Travis? Both.

Really? Like, really, like if they were both like couples in front of me, I would gravitate towards the ladder. Like if you had to participate in a threesome being nine months pregnant, you would go with MGK. and MF. Yeah, I think so, yeah.

She actually, so Megan Fox actually was interviewed for InStyle. You guys check out the article because it was really interesting to read. She said that she kind of feels like right now is her like resurrection. And only when you read the article, do you understand and kind of reminisce and say, wow, because she was here. She was like in the media. She was in movies, Transformers, whatever. And then she disappeared for a whole 10 years.

almost. She had three babies, and now she's back and very much in the limelight and and carrying the hotness of their coupling. Anyway, Lauren, thank you so much for being on. I agree. You're amazing. Thank you for having me. Yes, I'm so happy that you came on and that you took an hour away from your from your cute little beautiful tan baby. He is cute. And you know what? This is going to sound so bad, but I'm going to leave you on this

because I feel like a lot of moms. Sorry for people who aren't moms, but if and when you become mom, you'll understand this. I feel like I'm so nervous for the second one because shy really set the bar high. Like he's smart. It's true.

He's smart. He's strong. He's healthy. Besroth a sham. It'll say that way. And he's so. cute in these eyes and I'm like what's the next one going to look like is it going to be the same because like I want that I'm still going to love him just as much but shy really set the bar but will you know

but will you know if it's an ugly baby no my kid's not going to be ugly okay but okay of course not knock on wood all the things but would do you think you would know and be able to be objective about it so when shy before shy was born we did the five the ultrasound and I cried the whole way home. I was like, this is what our kid looks like. I swear to God. And most people don't know this. Shai was a preemie.

So when he was born, Alex sent me pictures and I was, you know, I had preclamps. So I was, I couldn't see him. He sent me pictures and I go, that's our kid. He looked like an old man like Benjamin Button, in case of Benjamin Button. It was so bad. So when people were like, let's see him. I showed them his backside. No, you're lying.

I swear. But for you, you know what? I'm proud of you. No, I'm proud of you. I wasn't. I was like, I think I thought he was cute. And now looking back, I'm like, damn, no, it wasn't cute when he was born right away. Like, now he's cute.

But then I thought he was cute. Oh, my God. He wasn't. So I'm proud of you. I thought it was the drugs that they gave me. I wasn't sure. No, but you know what I always say to people about those ultrasounds? You can't fucking see what the baby looks like.

I hate when people are like, they have your mouth. Oh my God, that's husband's nose. I'm like, A, if that's husband knows, I'm giving it back. And B, no, you can't fucking know. So stop pretending. You can see what the baby looks like by the fucking ultrasound. They're all, yeah, they're exactly. They're smushed up again, shit.

And you can't. Noah does have your lips, though. And they're lovely. They're lovely. And they're lovely. You've got lovely lips. So does Noah. Noah.

Thank you, babe. I hope you have the best delivery ever. Thank you. And that your baby is as cute as shy. Thank you. And we can't wait to see him through your Instagram and kiss off all the trolls. Crazy. Mwa.

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