Not Skinny But Not Fat - Annie Murphy: From Crying in the Pacific to Manifesting a Schitt’s Creek Movie

Episode Date: July 1, 2025

Annie Murphy joins me to talk about all the things: from nearly quitting acting (yes, there was a very dramatic cry in the Pacific) to landing the role of Alexis Rose on Schitt’s Creek (spoiler alert: she auditioned for another role on the show ). We get into whether a Schitt’s Creek movie is actually happening (she’s manifesting it hard), working with Nicole Kidman on Nine Perfect Strangers, and the surprising celeb who’s a huge fan of hers. Annie opens up about fame, mental health, weird auditions, and her ultimate comfort watches. Plus: bribes to Dan Levy, starstruck moments, and yes—she still knows A Little Bit Alexis by heart.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Venmo everything with Venmo Debit Card. Visit Venmo.me/debit to learn more and sign up today.Next time you need your reality TV, go to Hulu. Hulu gets real.Visit CleanSimpleEats.com and use code NOTSKINNY20 at checkout for 20% off your FIRST order.Give your summer closet an upgrade—with Quince. Go to Quince.com/notskinny for free shipping on your order and three hundred and sixty-five -day returns.Catch new episodes of Bachelor in Paradise Mondays at 8/7 central on ABC, and stream next day on Hulu!Start paying rent through Bilt and take advantage of your Neighborhood Benefits™ by going to joinbilt.com/notskinny.OpenPhone is offering my listeners 20% off of your first 6 months at OpenPhone.com/notskinny. And if you have existing numbers with another service, OpenPhone will port them over at no extra charge. OpenPhone: no missed calls, no missed customers.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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favorite stars of my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hi, my friends. How are you on this lovely Tuesday morning, afternoon, evening, wherever this episode is catching you. Maybe you don't listen on Tuesday. Maybe it's Wednesday. Maybe it's Thursday. Maybe it's Friday. Maybe it's Saturday. Maybe it's Sunday. Maybe it's Monday. Maybe it's Monday. Maybe. I don't know. But this summer, I don't know what's happening. I do not know what's happening. It is 69 degrees right now in New York. Yesterday was 105. I'm not complaining. I am observing. I perhaps am concerned. about the fucking climate and the environment, but I'm rolling with it. I just don't think, for people that complain about it being too cold in New York or not even too cold,

like not hot enough yet, like today's 69 people would be like, where's the summer it's June? And I'm like, New York isn't meant for 80 to 100 degree weather because we are a concrete jungle, as Alicia Keys said. And, you know, if I'm in fucking Portofine,

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to Lil Bieber on Instagram. And he has been posting lately a lot of stories, whether it's screenshots of conversations with friends or other stuff, things with baby Jack, which like we'd love to see, very cute. He literally, though, was, oh my God, first of all, baby Jack, playing inside an Amazon box

is so normie-coded. Like, we all have said it, people with kids. Like, you'll buy your kid, a gazillion toys. What do they want to play with? A fucking box. Like, that's just what it is. So I love those normie moments. I'm just wondering if, like,

the excessive posting and name change is anything to worry about, which I want to support the people are so bad. And I don't, I think it's obviously, if they are going through a hard time, the last thing you want is people to be like talking about it, speculating about it, like that's what they have had to deal with their whole relationship,

like divorce, rumor, all this shit. Now they have a baby, like we don't want to put that energy towards them. I will just say about the name change on Instagram, like that's never been a good sign. And I'm not talking like if I change from that's getting about to Amanda. I'm talking like, you know, Kanye changing his name, Britney Spears changing her name. And by the way,

I know like non-famous people, that have changed their name. And it was, if they did that, you knew, like, it wasn't good. Okay? Like, I, I just know, okay? I just, no, I just know you guys. So that's that. The other really big news in pop culture is that Katie Perry and Orlando Bloom have called

it quits. You know, they have a baby. It's sad. They've been together for a while. They stood the test of Hollywood time for a while. Katie Perry has been on, not to blame her, who knows? Maybe he fucking did something. but he's less in the media and less in the public eye,

so I don't know, but she's just been on this other journey. So maybe she's changed a lot, you know, maybe she's not the woman that he met. Maybe he's not the man that she met. But she just seems like, you know, people do constantly evolve, but, you know, the space thing, there are literally headlines that say that the space thing was like the final straw, which is kind of crazy.

Like, imagine sitting down little Daisy and being like, so remember Mama went to space with Gail King? and Lauren Sanchez. Yeah, Daddy didn't like it. Also, Orlando Bloom, and I've heard this from sources, from people, like, he's super like woo-woo. Like, he's super like goop. You know, he's super goop, IRL. So maybe he truly didn't like that.

He's like, you are polluting. We're not into it. Anyway, let's get into today's guest. She's someone that you know, you love. And yes, she's just as cool as you'd imagine. It's Emmy winner, Canadian queen, and the hilarious iconic Alexis Rose from Schitts Creek. Oh, David.

It's Annie Murphy. She's not just a little bit of Lexus, okay? She's way more than that. She's sweet. She's down to earth. She was wearing fake Chanelys, which I fucking loved. We talk about everything from Schitts Creek, a reboot, her new projects,

her take on fame, everything she's been into lately. She's really smart. She's really funny. And she's just like effortlessly fucking cool. So enjoy. Here's Annie Murphy. I love this little like situation. A little sock and sandal.

Yeah. Is it you or is like a stylist? No, this is me. I love it. Yeah, this is me. I wonder like what the internet would think. We can ask them. Yeah, I know.

I'm into it. Is it a Gen Z thing? I sure as hell not. Is it Chanel? Is it Chanel? No, they're like $30 knockoffs. I love you. I love you.

I'm doing a Chanel knockoff and a sock and sandal. This is just where we're at. Love it. You're on a hid fucking show and you're wearing a socky sandy. Sock and Sandy, which like look like, look how I would be like Chanel. Well, that's what I hope that's what I hope happens with these. Because you don't believe in spending a lot of money. on, like, trends.

Well, or anything. Or anything. Or shoes. You know? Shoes in general. Yeah, shoes in general. Okay. Because it's like, you know, the row jellies.

Yeah. So that's a perfect example to me of, like, a trend that's not worth, no offense, American Ashley, like, love you forever. $700 with a plastic versus you could get them on Amazon for $20. And by next year, we're going to be like, we can't believe. we wore the jellies, but you didn't spend the 700. Right. And I do feel like, like, I went to China many, many years ago, and they were like, oh, this is the, you know, Eve Celerin factory, and it's also the Gap factory, and it's also the Forever 21 factory. Seriously. Those are not exact stores,

but that's the gist. But that's the gist. And you're just like, yeah, like, what are we doing? What are we doing here? So even when you started making money working, you still were not spending it. Not spending it on, I like to spend on experiences. Like, like what? Like travel? Traveling. Yeah. And like eating great food. And like food is the one thing that it's like the limit does not exist. Like for some reason, anything else. Like I just got my nails done like a fancy Russian manicure. And it was like, I mean, no, it's grown out because that's how frugal I am that I'm like getting every last bit of it's worth. Yeah. Like you're not supposed to go this long. But it was like $150. Which is very different. than like a regular manicure. I was like, this is so expensive. And I was having this conversation with myself. Meanwhile, like, everyone that follows me gets it.

Like, the world is getting it. It's not like the elite is got. Like, everyone gets it now. Okay? Yeah. And I was like, why am I okay with, like, ordering food for whatever amount of money, spending, like, just like, food just doesn't count, you know? Yeah, I know.

It's kind of, yeah, it's on a completely different list of things. It is, it is. I'm so happy you're here. You're out with not. Nine Perfect Strangers right now, which is a hit so fucking good, Nicole Kidman. What was that? She's obsessed with you, by the way. Did you know?

No. She said it. I saw it on TikTok. She said she was so excited to have you. She was so excited to work with you. She was an avid watcher of a Schitts Creek. I did, I did know that. I didn't know that.

It's hard to picture her like kicking back to Schitt's Creek. Yeah. It's like a, with just some snack. Yeah. some snacks and her slippers on. Like cracking up at you? It was truly wild to work with Nicole Kidman. Yeah.

Because she really is kind of this like intangible, like otherworldly presence. Right. When she does scenes, she does every take like completely differently. So you never know what's coming out of that face and body. Wow. So watching her is like an experience. It really is. Speaking of like kicking back with snacks, I wish I could.

have just done that. Yeah. Because it's a site to be old, for sure. Was it a cool, like when you found out that you were going to be doing this? Like, how excited were you about that? I was so excited. Well, it was post, you know, pandemic, post-strike, post all the things. And I just felt so lucky that I had a job to begin with.

Yeah. And then, you know, knowing that it was Nicole came in, Marie Bartlett had already signed on. Christine Baranski had already signed on. It was going to be shot in Germany, so I knew it was going to be. be like a, you know, a really cool adventure. You're seen with him, by the way, with Murray and the lift when you're like not afraid to die or something. Yeah, we had a, we had a, that was it just, was that in a real lift? Was that happening? Yeah, that was real. It's in this little town called Hullstad in Austria, which is, I think, one of the most Instagrammed places. It's this

little, like, it's a beautiful storybook town around this alpine lake. Wow. And the finicular, we just rode that all day long, like up and there. That's what it called. I didn't know it's until now. Okay. It sounds really fucking cool. Yeah. Yeah. The finicular, which is what I called the lift. The lift. That's a finicular. That's a finicular. Yeah. So, you're in it with him. Yeah. So it was just me and Murray riding a finicular all day long in Austria. Were you scared? Do you have a fear of heights? No, I loved. I loved it. And just like the weather kept changing as we were going up and down. Oh my God. It probably was so crammed with like a camera people inside that thing. You got cozy.

Yeah. Yeah. But working with Murray, I was just like, he's, Murray is so fascinating to me because he is the most rose-colored glass as human being. I have ever met in my life, like right out of the gates we met. And I said something within the first 10 minutes of like, well, we're all going to die. And he was like, do you think about death a lot? And I was like, yeah, I think about it 270 times a day.

Like, duh. And he was like, funny, I never really think about it. And I was like, give me your blood. Like, give me whatever makes you. Like, I want this. So how does he think of it literally had a whole episode in The Last of Us? Like, where were you, Marie? Well, I know.

But then... Like, where were you not getting anxiety from that? I know. But then he is... So he's like, just the cheeriest, most optimistic guy. And then he starts acting and just pulls out, like, anger or sadness or whatever. And it's just like he can access it so beautifully and then just, like, shut up. it all down again. He's amazing.

That's so cool. Yeah. Do you love that an episode, because I think by the time this comes out, like, the point is right now when we're recording, they're like four episodes out or three or four? Maybe the fourth one is like today. It's Wednesday. It is. Yeah. So do you like that when it like drops once a week or are you more of a bend girly? I like to gobble it up. Yeah. You know, I like to sit on a couch for eight to nine hours and gobble it up. And gobble it up. So would you wait, like, till they're all out?

I would wait. Although, you know, that said, I was, like, the most eager beaver with White Lotus. Speaking of White Lotus, you know that people are kind of comparing nine perfect strangers and White Lotus in a way. I mean, different cast, different locations. Right, right. But some sort of vibe of, like, rich people all go into plays. Yeah, mostly white people. Yeah.

Meeting in some, you know, obscure a spot and having experiences. Yeah, there's, yeah, there's an overlap. And Murray. And Murray. And Murray. And speaking of, like, the binge versus watching once a week, you're a reality TV fan. Like, people might not know. Is it below deck and 90 day?

Yeah, but now it's like... What? The floodgates have opened. Mormon? No, it's housewives now. Oh. And I was holding out so hard. I was like, I, for whatever reason, like, I will not deign to watch the housewives.

And then I think I was shooting in Boston. It was like a Boston and then Munich thing. It's like, when I'm alone and away from people I love and I'm just like, well, this is going to make me happy. Yeah. And it doesn't, but it like, it's company. It's a great, terrible company. So what did you start with? I did New York.

You did New York from the beginning? Yeah. Like Jill Zarin? I don't know why they recast it. You're like, that was perfect. It was perfect. Yeah, you're right. It was so bad.

It was perfect. I can't believe you started from the beginning recently. Like Alex and fucking that whole thing. Yeah. But now I've done Salt Lake City. I've done Miami. I've done... Wow.

What am I on now? Jersey. Jersey from the beginning? Like you're starting season one, episode one. Wow. Help me. Wait, so are you going to like lean into like new franchises? Like Rhode Island is going to happen.

Probably. Yeah, you're in it. Wow. What's your fave? Probably Beverly Hills. Beverly Hills. Which you also started. But old New York.

So when did this start? Because you said he used to be, no. So did it start in the past like year? No, so I was shooting a show called Kevin Can Fuck Himself in peak pandemic, Boston, where we weren't even allowed to hang out with our castmates. So it was so solitary and wintertime. And I was just like, I think it's time. And that's when it started it. So like three years ago. And now look at me. I'm like, how many hours? How many hours in? How many hours in? You can, I mean, you know what? I mean, right now we have Love Island that's on. And that's every day in that episode. I think there's like one day off. So you can like just breathe air. But it's every day and everybody watches it. And you're like, how are we all finding aside from all our other shit and all our other.

TV. And then you think about all of the things that you should be doing. Like, I'm always like, I don't read enough. And like, I need to watch more documentaries, which I do. I need to read and I need to watch documentaries. I need to do all those things that make me feel like I'm a good, better person. And I just can't. I'm just, I'm like, no, I just, like, I just, like, read, like, the first book in a long time. And I'm feeling really show off you about it. You should. What book was it? It was. Oh, my gosh. What's it called? Housemade. Housemade. But you know the only reason it like, it's not a smart people book. Sorry to the author. It's literally a like a person that watches Housewives book. Like it's that like gritty and like just shit that wouldn't happen. But I felt, well, I saw it. I was on vacation. I saw it. Like they put books out because. Oh, was like an airport book? It was a hotel room book. A hotel room book. Yeah. Okay. And I was like, how cute would I look by the pool reading this? Like even if I wasn't really like, someone take a picture, you know?

Yeah. And then I got into it. Okay. And I was, like, shocked and I mentioned it every day. But I think you need to be like a different sort of relax, like, for a book. And TV you could just like pop out. Yeah. And your brain can just be not there at all.

Exactly. But you still feel comforted. Exactly. Yeah. But also I think, like, even though you said didn't make you happy, like it is escapism at its finest. It is. You know, and maybe you not think of like Boston coronavirus. We'll be right back after the break.

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a show you were fucking star of. Thanks. Yeah. One of them. Yeah. I mean, knowing that Chitt's Creek is one of those, not only like entertainment level, but one of those shows that's like,

this got me through a mental health crisis. It's got me through losing somebody I love. Like the office is that show to me. And so I know how special that is and how important that is. And so I just feel so lucky to be a part of something that has provided some relief and some joy to people when they needed it. And that is like everlasting.

Yeah. It's like a timeless show that people reference and will remember forever, you know? I read that when, before you got the audition, you were about to quit. You were burned the house. The house burned down? Like, they were $3. Like, all these things happened right before.

Yeah, it wasn't a pretty cocktail of things. Yeah, my apartment had just burned down. Because L.A. fire? No, no. It was Toronto. Okay. They still don't know what happened. It was like it could have been light refracting through a vase improperly.

It could have been faulty wiring. But the fire was so intense. And the, my. deck was petroleum-based, like the material that the boards were made out of were petroleum based. And so as soon as fire or water hit it, it just exploded. So basically, yeah, I had no apartment. I had no money. And it was just kind of constantly. Did you have insurance? Or like, how does that work? Was it rented or yours? It was bought, but like so far from paid off. Anyway, so it was just, it was like, it was shitty. And I was auditioning a bunch, but it was always

kind of whittled down to me and another girl, and it was always the other girl that got the phone call. And so I really was, like, I think this is, I think this is all of the indication that I need that I need to pivot and, like, work at a bar. I don't know. Oh, a bar, you thought? That was my short term, like, I guess I'll work at the bar down. But you went to college. Mm-hmm. For theater. Oh, for theater. So, yeah. So you were like, it's- I can do movement. You want to watch me roll around on the ground. Were you a theater girl, like in college? Yeah. Because I've been around theater people. Sorry.

That's crazy. Yeah. Like your sneeze is like, I just remember that. Sneezing? Even a sneeze was like. Like that sort of thing. Okay, can I tell you? The college theater people.

I was not one of those people, but only only because I fucking hate loud sneezes so much. Like it, I don't know what it. You know, people have, I can't remember what it is. God, I'm one of those people, you would fucking hate me. My husband apologizes to people in the street. He's like, sorry, so sorry. Sorry, but I'm not doing it theatrically. It just happens loudly.

Cover your face? I do. And my nose. There's something that people have that when they hear people chew. That's what it is. You have that? No, but I have that with sneezes. So whatever that is.

You do. Like you get the ick. It feels like I'm shooting a gun and it's like kick back. So how do you sneeze? Like super dainty? I go like this. Like, sometimes it doesn't even make that smart. You're literally like holding it in so bad.

Yeah. Even when you're alone. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes I, sometimes when I'm alone, I, I love when I, you're like. I let it go. And it does feel really good. Have you ever, like, smelled someone sneeze?

No, I have, you guys. It's weird. That's disgusting to think about. I've smelled. I've been in a closed car with, like, somebody that sneezed. And then I was like, what is that metallic? Like, it was just not breath. It was like a sneeze smell.

This is weird, you guys. Do you have weird smelling in like sensory things? Yeah, yeah, I do. I do. Okay. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I do.

And by weird, I mean unique. I do. I have this thing, like, I'll walk by somebody on the street that I assume smells, okay? Like, the smell. It looks like very dirty. Oh. And like, they probably smell. Okay.

And instead of not breathing, I'll fucking take the deepest breath. Huff it in. Huff it and puff it. I'll walk into a bathroom, see shit streaks on the toilet. You won't get down there, will you? You won't get right down there. Tell me, please tell me you won't.

I will be like, that's so disgusting. I probably smell. Like, I will accidentally want to, I'm so, oh, you know what it is? I got to, see, I don't need therapy. I'm just so curious. That's what I am. Do you do that with nice smells too? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll smell like, you know, the rich looking men on the street. I'm dying. know what they smell like and about just like a flower or something or like or like fresh rain on freshly cut grass any of that are just human human content maybe like oh my god i literally i'm like dexter or something like smelling i'm like the charlie's angel's guy with the hair well there are people who can smell like cancer and parkinson's and things like that really hey hey they can yeah people not dogs people not dogs okay back to you sorry so people people People not dogs. People not dogs. No, I can't with me. That's a cute podcast. People not dogs.

Sometimes the dumb bitch voice that I do to imitate myself. You realize sounds just like you instead. Correct. But also, I wonder, because you did the dumb bitch ditsy voice for Alexis for so many years, now that you imitate a dumb bitch, do you do the same voice? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. I do. Like, how fun for you that you got to do that. It was great, and it's so easy. Like, you don't have to, like, put any energy into anything. Did you get stuck in it after a day? Yeah, I would have to shake it off going home.

Because it's really not you. Like, you really, no one would say, like, that you as Annie have, like, a Valley Girl. What'd you call, like, Valley Girl? Yeah, Valley Girl, like Vocal Fry. Ugh. Yeah. Vocal Fry haters can fucking suck it, okay? It's all people do now.

This is my voice, thinking personally. Don't. But it's so fun. Like, that's what I say about a voice like that. Like, it's so fun. Yeah. It's so much more fun than just, like, speaking normally to me. So I put it on sometimes, you know?

Yeah, lean into it, dude. Like Alexis would. Life is short. So when you did the audition, did that come naturally to you? Or did you have to work on that a lot? When I auditioned, I actually auditioned for Stevie as well, which is the role that Emily Hampshire plays. So I tested for both Alexis and for Stevie.

Which one did you want? I felt like I was going to get Stevie because Stevie felt more like me. You. Yeah. And I'm so glad I got the part that I did because it was a character. But that's so funny. Isn't that crazy to think about it? For both characters that are like polar opposites.

Yeah. And I changed my, I thought I was, oh my God, this is such a fucking actuar thing to do. I changed my nail polish color between tests. Yes. I had like 20 minutes in between. And I'm like, so what did you do, Alexis? What, pink? Pink.

And I think Stevie was like, I think I even chipped it. I think it was like a purple and I like chipped it. No, you did not chip. I know. Genius, though. It didn't work for Stevie. It didn't work for Lex. It worked for Alexis.

Yeah. And do you remember the feeling of after the $3 and the house burning and all the things? Yeah. And getting the yes. It was, I mean, Dan was such an asshole about it too. Were you friends at that point? No, I didn't know him at all. He, because I tested and then literally three weeks passed.

And you know that every minute of every day, I'm just like checking the phone or calling my agent to be like, just tell me. To me. Just tell me that they passed. And so three weeks later, and I got a call from Dan. And he was like, hey, I just wanted to thank you so much for all the effort and all the time that you put in. Yeah, we really appreciated it so much. And that's what people say when they're about to be like, fuck you.

We went with someone else. And I was like, okay, thanks so much. And then I was signing off the call and he was like, just one quick thing. Do you want to play my sister on the show? I'm sure I cried. It was like kind of a blackout like situation because it changed my whole life. Like it really changed everything. But do you love that he did that?

I do now. No, yeah, yeah. In the moment, I was just like, please put me out of my. Missouri. This is, you know, because you picture it. You come so close to a thing and you start picturing it and you start living it and then to have that be like, yeah. But yeah. Wow, that's so special. And did you become like really close filming it? Yeah. I mean, I mean, the way he talks about you, everything I've seen both are you present in or anything, he's like just obsessed with you. We, I can't wait for him to watch this. I'll be like, no. No. No. No.

we fell into like a sibling dynamic right away. So we got to, we knew how to like get at each other. And we had so much fun and so many giggles. And I miss, I miss that cast. Yeah, it was so, how many years did you film like? Wow. Yeah. And you got to be, to live at home?

I got to live at home. Yeah. Roll out of bed and I was in hair and makeup in 15 minutes. Like, which is unique, right? Yeah. And going to like watch Eugene and Catherine work every day. Did you break a lot? Catherine made me break so much.

But you get to a point where you just have to kind of like shove it down because if you break every time she's funny, no one's going to get any work on. Right, because she's so fucking funny. For me, I think, and I literally found a compilation of it online and like put it on my feed so I can like watch it when I'm sad, is just her saying, Bebe, like, that's my all time. Yeah.

Do you have an all time? No, no, it's too, there's too much. There's too much. She's such an absolute goddamn chameleon genius woman. I could watch her work. Have you watched the studio? I didn't yet. You didn't yet? Okay. I have to do one show at a time. It's like one, like, serious show. That's fair. So I'm doing your friends and neighbors. Oh, I haven't watched that yet. It's really good. Okay. That's a John Ham one. John Ham and Amanda Pede who would like love her. She's Canadian. Can I make up that she's Canadian? She's not, but she seems like that movie. I'll take it. And Olivia on mine, it's so good.

But the studio is, she's in it, Catherine? She's in it. Yeah. In all her glory. We'll watch it for her. Yeah. Did you get to improvise? Not really.

Like, we shot to script always. And then if someone had an idea, we could, like, pipe up for a button at the end of a scene that usually hit the cutting room floor immediately. But sometimes, like, I, my proudest one, well, I think I did, you get murdered first for once. I think that was it. Oh, yeah? And then I did. It's like a witch's house. in here, David.

But, like, out of six seasons, I think that's... Oh, really? Kind of the extent of it. Oh, my God. It seems, like, because you guys are so good and had such a flow, it seemed like everything is just, like, off the fucking cuff, you know? I know. I saw that you...

I don't know if you're saying this for jokesies. I hope not that you would really want there to be a movie. Of course, I would want there to be a movie. Yeah? A Schitt's Creek movie. Oh, my gosh. I can see it. Like, I can see it.

And I love that you said movie and not, like, reboot or not, like, reunion. I love that you said, movies. because that's what we should be manifesting. Will you help me? Yeah. What can I do on it? I don't know. I don't know.

I'm just, again, speaking of waiting by the phone. Yeah. Really? Like, do you annoy them? Like, who do we have to annoy? I think Dan. Yeah? Yeah.

What in it is not making him want to do it? I think, I mean, he's a very, like, he's a real perfectionist, and I think it just has to be, it can't be, like, movie for the sake of a movie. It has to be like... Like the plot has to be really perfect. Yeah, the perfect kernel of an idea. There are probably like a thousand different ways this could go. I mean, we're all going to be in an old folks home if he doddles any longer.

Yeah. It's not a motel. It's a retirement residence. Is everyone down? As far as I know. You guys, fingers fucking crossed. We'll be right back after the break. Like I said, I will be watching Bachelor in Paradise this summer.

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Oh, yeah. But we shot Kevin, like, we started shooting September 2020. So it was, we were all mass testing every day, not allowed to hang out outside of work. Yeah. Like, it was not a great time to be working. That's for sure. Yeah. Yeah.

And it was such a unique show in that, like, it was like sitcomy and then also a drama when you were kind of alone. Yeah. It kind of, the premise was awesome. I love the pilot of that. show so much. And because it is sitcom world when she's with her husband. And then when she's by herself, it's like kind of breaking baddy, like really

beautifully shot drama. Yeah. And I met my best friend on that show, Mary Hollis, who plays Patty. Oh, yeah? Yeah. She's, it was weird and wild time. Were you, oh, you were, you said earlier you weren't allowed to hang out, like outside of, so even with her,

like, even though you were like, you would break the rules. We were living in the same, like, apartment complex. And so you have to have some kind of human interaction. You're sitting alone with your thoughts watching hours and hours of housewives. Like you need to break that up a little bit. Right. Did you like playing, like going from Alexis and getting to have like fun and comedy to something a little bit darker at times?

Yeah. I really, I think for myself, I really needed to prove to myself that I could do something that wasn't like. And this character is so the, the, Kevin can fuck himself, it's like this kind of lower class Bostonian housewife. And so it was a real, it was a good challenge for me to. And with nine perfect strangers too, it's like completely different for you. Yeah. I try to do, I think I got into acting to live as many lives as I possibly could in this one life.

Yeah. So I've been trying to do a whole, you know. Do you have any like dream genre that you haven't touched yet? I want to screamed yet? No, I haven't been in a horror movie. I'd love to do that. I also want to play like a grieving widow in 1806, like wandering around on the shore, you know, like in a big dress. Like, I'd love to do that.

Putting it out there, everybody. Let's manifest that. Because you talked about the corona a bunch. Yeah. Was it, because I know you also discussed your mental health before and like getting depressed and going unmeted. and going on meds, which is great that you've been so open about it. Was that during the pandemic? Oh, that's all over the place all the time.

That comes and goes like a real asshole. But since you were younger or? I'd say like kind of mid-20s, it started really popping up. Yeah. Popping up. It's like depression or anxiety. Yeah, both. A nice little cocktail.

Yeah. What was the catalyst for you? Do you remember? I mean, it can, it's, I think about like, I think it's kind of, it's like existential stuff, like just being overwhelmed a lot of the time by like dying and losing people that I love and not spending enough time with those people while I have the ability to spend. And, you know, like life stuff, of course, adds to that to that little recipe of things. Right. But it really just pops up and and stays for like an undisclosed amount of time.

And then you kind of like get out of. of it a bit and you find the happiness and you find the light. But you know it's going to be like, hey, guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm back. That's why whenever I talk about it, I, because I suffer from anxiety, whenever I talk about it, I always make sure to say, like, even if I'll say like, I'm okay now and I was like, parentheses, you know? Yeah. Because you just, first of all, you're like, anxiety depression gods, like, don't fucking, I didn't jinx it, okay? I said it was okay now. Yeah. I didn't say forever and I didn't say you weren't going on my about. but I always want to make sure that I'm like, no, and it could, it could pop up.

It can. It will. And I know that I'm going to, I'm a person who's going to have to be on antidepressants for chunks of time throughout my life. Do you try to get off of them? Or? I do. But I know that's not. But why? I know. It's stupid. But is it, no, no, I'm genuinely wondering, like, is it because you have a relationship with it where you're like, I should, I should, I could, I need to be okay without it? No, no. I think it is important to get on the right one and stay on the right one, but I haven't found the right one. And I feel like my sex drive goes away. On the ones that I've been on, there's like no sex drive. And there is this, like, strange dissociation from emotion. And I feel like I would almost rather cry a lot than not be able to. You know what I mean? Yeah. You still haven't found the right one.

I still haven't found the right one for me. Oh, that's annoying to go through the ones. But it is that kind of slippery slope of like, I'm feeling fine now. I should just go off my heads. And then it's funny. Then you're like, no, you're feeling fine now because of your. Yeah, I've done that before. But also then it's the fucking sometimes you're like, was that, is it placebo?

Am I not feeling fine? Because I know that I went off of it. You know, it's a whole fucking mind fuck. Yeah. With nine perfect strangers, though, it's a book. We talked about reading before. Did you read it? Yes.

But season one and two are like, season two is not a book. Right. Did you read, though, the one for the season one one? No. And she asks again. No, I didn't. She asks again. I thought I was clear.

Yeah. So what's the last book you read? Well, I'm currently reading Demon Copperhead, my Barbara Kingsolver, which is really good. Yeah? Really good. Sounds like not anything that, like, demon copper. Like, what does that mean? It's loosely based on David Copperfields.

Okay. Lusely, very loosely, but it's awesome. Uh-huh. Well, the show is very, like, woo-woo a little bit. Like, Hollywood can be woo-oh. Hell yeah, brother. Well, you're, like, in fake Chanel's, so I'm assuming you don't do, like, a lot of woo-o shit, but have you done any, like, really Hollywood thing that you remember or that you did for the experience?

Salmon, sperm, facial. Oh, Lord. Oh, God, no. No, no. I did, I did tixel, a tixel treatment on my face. Yeah. Yeah. But it just, I think it, I think it did a nice thing, but I also looked like I had been barbecued and stung by like an entire swarm of bees for eight to ten days. Yeah. Wait, so, what kind of a, what is it for? It's a laser. I don't, I don't know any of them. It's supposed to take your wrinkles away. So you feel like it did it? I think it took like a one-s-six-th of my wrinkles. Was it a one-time thing? No, you have to, it's like you buy a package

and now I have to go back to do it. I'm overdue and I'm just like, I don't want to be barbecue for the barbecue. And it's in kind of grid patterns. Oh, wow. Okay. It's kind of badass looking after a while, but. But you feel silly doing it?

Yeah. Okay. But I'll look into it. But then the other Hollywood thing, it's not a woo-woo thing. It's just an experience that I had recently. where I was at this party, and they had hired human beings to be marionettes for entertainment. And these poor people, and then they had hired bartenders to have a puppet.

Okay, it was the Nine Perfect Strangers premiere, which was a blast. It was so fun, but it was just very, it was very Hollywood. And the bartenders that they hired, who you know we're all aspiring actors too, had to have a puppet on their hand while they were mixing drinks and you were only allowed to converse with the bartender through the puppet. So if you looked at them, they'd be like, uh-huh. And I was just sitting there, like in the darkest of dark corners because that's where I am drawn to.

You find the stomach party. Yeah, like a glass of wine in a dark corner. I was just like, this is the most Hollywood thing. Yeah. And I don't, I feel like I need to go. Yeah. It was too much. It was too much.

Oh, my God. Do you live in L.A.? No, I'm in Toronto. Okay. So that keeps you like, you know, marionette free for the most part. So not only Nicole Kinman was excited to work with you, you met Kate Winslett. We're so excited. I read that you got her number.

I got her number and then I went to her house. Wait. First of all, at what point in the relationship did you ask for the digits? We drunkenly exchanged them the night we met. Where'd you meet? We met at the Emmys. Yeah. When you won?

No, when we presented a couple of years ago, a few years ago, I guess. And I, she went, Dan Levy then had like an after party at his house. And she was like, oh, yeah, I'll definitely be there. And we're like, Kate Wendell's not fucking coming to this. And late in the night, like 1230 at night, we were doing karaoke. and Sarah Levy was singing What's Going on? And

What's going? That one. What a good karaoke song. So good. And she's so good singing. And all of a sudden there's like another voice that joins in

during the chorus and we look over and it's Kate Winslet just like traipsing through the front door ready to go. And we hung out that night and just kind of clicked

and she was like if you're ever in London just like come to my she calls it her house by the sea. She's like, come to my house. house by the sea. And I was like, I don't want to be in London in two weeks. And she's like, come to my house by the sea. So I did. Wait, so you were like, hey, did you think about it?

Was it like texting a guy? Like, yeah, I was like, I probably shouldn't text her and go to her house by the sea, right? Because that's, she probably didn't mean it because we had been drinking and But you were like, but I have to. But I can't not go to Kate Williamsland's house by the sea. And so I texted and she, she is so sweet and so earn. Like she, she genuinely meant, please come to my house by the sea. And so I did. I took the train to her house by the sea. And by yourself. Yeah. And she came out. And what she was, she like welcomed me with open arms. She'd bare feet, like messy bun. And she cooked a frittata from eggs that she that her chickens had hatched. She hatched the eggs. Yes. Yeah. She had just got enough from hatching of bunch of eggs and cooked me this frittata and then drove me back to the train station because she was on her way to pick up her little boy from no that's so romantic from school fucking kate winslet get out of year and she's the coolest huh she's the coolest woman like not hollywood

hates it yeah lives in a house by the sea in england so she doesn't have to do you're like if she called it a house by a sea that's what it is I'm never not saying but she's just so cool and beautiful and smart and down to earth and all, like, just, I was just like, can I be, I just want to be you. I want to be you so bad. I want to be your friend, want to come to your house by the scene, so much more. Have you maintained the friendship? I text her sometimes. That's nice. Got to maintain it.

Got to. If you, if you have Kay Winslet's number, you got to make the most of it. Like happy birthday and stuff. Yeah, and like, I loved your way to go and make that feminist empowering speech. That kind of. I kind of really chill. Wait, it's so funny that you say that because, like, literally, like, every day there's a feminist empowering speech by Kate Winslet that shows up on my feet. I text her a bunch, I guess.

Yeah, you're like, you're like, I saw one again. You're so good. You go, girl. What I remember from you, like, a couple years ago, you did a video with A.J. McLean from the Backstreet Boys, that it was David, right? And you are a Backstreet Boys, girly. Dude. So it wasn't just, like, you made a video with the Backstreet Boy. Like, you were.

Because you're, what year are you born? Eighty-seven? You said 80? You said 90? That's so cute and sweet. But 87? 86. Yeah.

So that was the back-shed boy. I mean, I'm 88. So that's like we have back-shed boys. How dare you? How dare you? 88. But it was, it was crazy. Was he your back-street boy?

He was my second. Who was the first? Brian. Shut on me too. And why? And why? No offense, Brian. But what were we?

like that's He kind of looks like a tiger or something Like there needs to be like those old BuzzFeed like What it means about you Yeah Like if you like based on who your backshut boy was

Like why did I go for Brian I think he was a little bit safer than AJ Like I felt like he could probably take care of me Yeah Better Yeah But AJ was too so it's like I might go this But then you want the bad

I also like DJ I want bad Guess who we didn't Was in our one or two Nick which means I know what that buzz speed. He was three. Then Kevin was. Kevin is hardcore.

Kevin now I'm like. Kevin is number one now. He's number one. And Howie. Shout out Howie. You know, really hope he's well. So AJ number two. You meet your number two.

I meet my number two. But guys, like I will, any backsheep, the level of obsession that I had with the backsheep point, like I fell in love. Brian was my first love. And I remember going to their concert in grade seven or eight or something like that and being in the nosebleeds and feeling like I was going to go fucking insane because he was there and I was here and he didn't know that I was there

but we were in love and he was mine and I didn't and I didn't know how to communicate to him that like I was just right here and all he needed to do was take the microphone and call me down and I'd be his wife forever. Yeah. Anyway, I met AJ and I flashed back to... He found out that you were a fan, or was it the other way around? He... Because you weren't a trailer.

Was it his trailer? Yes, it was... I got to go on his bus. Oh, you went on his bus. On his bus. I think I had already bought tickets to the concert, obviously, and then there was like an invite. I guess they kind of do, like, fancy people in the city.

Do you want to go to this concert? Fancy. But, and then it was like, AJ would like to invite you the content. I was like, I already have tickets. I don't need, I won't be needing AG's tickets. And then we exchanged numbers somehow, and he was like, come, just like come backstage after the show. And I was like, and I did.

And again, we text sometimes now. No, shut up. And my best friend from, my oldest friend back, we were, we've been friends since grade four. And we still, like, every time I get a text from AJ's screen room. I'm just kidding, I don't. So, was it his idea to do the, oh, David? Yes. Oh, is that, okay.

Yes, he had watched Schitt's Creek. I think he's watched it like six times or something. He's like a diehard. He's a diehard. Yeah. So, because I'm sure so many people say that line to you, but when A.J. did it was fine. But when other people do it is a little bit annoying at this point. A little bit.

A little bit. But what I've realized it, because it's very kind of like, do it. Like, do your thing. And sometimes you're deeply depressed and you're like, I just don't want to do this. But what I have realized is that I think more often than not, it's people wanting to do it themselves. And so I kind of go like, let's do it together, five, six, seven, eight. And then often I just don't and let them do it. And that usually like scratches an it for them.

Sometimes I join in. And you're like, only for AJ. Yeah, only for my number two man, AJ. Well, I was saying this at the beginning, but we have to share with the people because I was like I, which is so funny because I don't, like I said, I think in my mind, I was like, tell her like you're a fan when I saw you at the Rangers game in, at the, at the suite, at the MSG suite, sorry, which I went to a hockey game, which I do not deserve to be. Like, I was, whenever I get invited to a suite, I'm going. I'm just, it doesn't matter what's happening. You're an actual hockey fan. Yes.

Because you're Canadian makes sense. Go sends. Ottawa senators. So that day was Rangers versus them? It was Rangers versus Sends, yeah. So she gets invited. So the way it works is like you get invited by the Massachusetts, by MSG. Yeah.

So, and you come in the, in the, in the, in the senators. I, but were you booing to? No. Okay. I added a layer. No. Okay. So you're, so you were the, the other teams.

The other team, the says, my team. Sorry, sorry. But, and you're not allowed? No. Like, of course you're not. You're a guest of the Rangers. You're basically a guess of the fucking brain, you idiot. You're a guest of the Rangers.

You're a guest of the Rangers. And I didn't realize that I was on, like, they have the cameras that zoom in so close. I didn't see one camera around me. So the Sends were, when they scored a goal, I was like. And then I had been on like national television. Yeah, it became news. Yeah. And then a security guard came over and they were like, you have to take your hat off.

and so I did and then I had a I think they gave me a Rangers hat which I happily put on and the Rangers are also so great but it was a faux paw and now I know you've learned

I've learned my lesson and I hope to be invited back one day did your friends because I remember you were with like a few friends like did they were they like

I mean that must have been such a funny situation to be in it was and then that would be something I would do like not get it. Like, I totally get why your brain was like, I'm watching a game.

I like this team. Let me just wear like their merch, you know? Yeah. But then the sense kept scoring. And so I had to be like, sit on my hand and just like. And you're like a huge hockey fan. I mean, a huge is a bit much. But like I love a good hockey game.

Yeah. Yeah. The no teeth situation. Love a man with no teeth. Not a Nick for you. Turn on. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Mm-hmm. I feel that. AJ. Brian. No teeth. Pocky boys. Yeah. Toothless men.

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