Not Skinny But Not Fat - BRE TIESI TAKES (SELLING) SUNSET BY STORM

Episode Date: October 10, 2023

Selling Sunset Season 7's hottest new addition was BRE TIESI. You'll never guess how many weeks she was postpartum (with Nick Cannon's baby) when she started filming and took the season by storm, taking no shit and still getting along with most of the cast! We sit down to talk about her current relationship, being a mom, working bottle service in Vegas, filming the show and more!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah, you said it. Okay, yay. I worked on it all night. Oh, good. Yeah. How are you? I'm good. How are you?

Are you here for Fashion Week? I am. I am. What'd you come for? I came for a few things and I feel like I really overcommitted. I definitely, this was a different experience for you. Have you been here before for Fashion Week? No, I haven't.

Okay. I modeled when I was younger, I did, I actually walked in some shows, but I've never attended. So this was a different side. It was fun. So tell me, what did you like about it? I mean, I love the fashion. That's literally it. The doors, everybody arguing, the lines, all that stuff.

I can miss all that. Yeah. For the actual shows, they were epic. You said next to any cool people? Just my baby daddy. Does it? Oh, you came with you? Okay, so for Fashion Week, I feel like people should know that it's not as, like, glam as it looks.

No, I don't feel like it is. Right? You can go either way. Yeah. You can be super over the top or it can be kind of. Yeah. Yeah. But it is like a lot of people and a lot of, like, getting through the crowds.

You have, like, any, like, social anxiety or anything like that. Absolutely. You do? Yeah. I usually hide behind Amanda. So. So. I'll just be like, okay, let me know when we're going.

I would never guess that with you. I just rather not, if I don't look you in the eye, then I don't have to engage. Yeah. So you're not into small talk. No. So let's wrap the stuff. No, okay, I'm like, now I've done. Okay, so if you guys don't know, Bree, she's the latest addition to selling sunset.

We saw you last season. Yeah. And you killed it. Thank you. People come on as new, you know, cast members and were hesitant to like accept. Yeah, like, hey, why'd they bring them on? What's her deal? People liked you right away.

I was surprised. You were? But, yeah, I thought for sure they were going to rip my ass part. For sure. I was like, okay, well, I am who I am. me either hate me and you love me. So I wonder how audiences work. Because I can see that too. Like you're like, hey, I come on strong. I have this big personality. Yeah. And it worked so in your favor. Like people were Team Brie. People, the cast really connected with you.

Aside from maybe like. Yeah. I was like one. But like everyone, I was Team Brie. I remember being like I like her. I was like she's a little bitchy. Yeah. But we like it. It's like the good bitchy. She got a lot of bitchy. Yeah. But it was the good kinds. Yeah. No. I mean. I mean, it was an interesting environment to come into. I mean, all the girls are amazing except, you know. But, I mean, it is what it is. I mean, it's a her problem, not me. So, I mean, otherwise, the show's a good experience and the girls are all amazing.

I actually got asked to do the show a couple years ago. Prior, I think it was like season, I want to say it was like two. It was a long time ago. And I just was not in a space privately, my own private life. And I was about to go through a divorce. And like, it was just like a lot going on. I was like, yeah, I was not. Did you have your real estate license then? I did. I wasn't really using it. I've had my license since 2016 is when I started to get it. I think I got it in 17. And I just wanted to have it on the back end because I had so many clients and different things. And I was giving them to other people. And I was like, why am I passing off this commission? Oh, you weren't making the commission. Yeah. So I was like, I should just get my license and make the commission. So then I ended up just having it. And then I did start using it. When I was about 30, I was like, okay, I have to get my shit together. I can't be a model. I can't do X, X, I and Z. I need like a real career path and like, what do I really want to do? And that was the

best thing for me that really kind of pulled all my clients together and all my connects and everything that I had while you work, you know, smarter, not harder. So this is perfect. So you were making money off of it before selling sunset. Yeah, definitely. Okay. So the first time around, it didn't suit your kind of vibe. It's just here and there. It's not, it wasn't like a full time thing. It would be like clients that came in for the summer and, you know, you'd put them up for three to six months or you would do something like, I'd do a lot more like investment side now. So having my license, I at least get the referral versus before I didn't get anything. Yeah. So legally you can't just like pay people out. Right. And then at O group, like, did you, because like the show gets

some black for like, how real is it? Are you really like selling real estate? So like people done deep dives on like agents and their listings and everything. Yeah, but they've also done a deep dive on me. And it's not, but they're not accurate. And in all fair. to them, if you do sell something off market and it's not on MLS, like it doesn't, let's say count. Like, they're like, it doesn't come up. But you can see all the articles. You can see, like I don't have my paperwork. It's like, yeah. Okay. So it's, there is things like that where it's kind of like, I get what you guys are saying, but it's not actually accurate. And the, like, people also say that the listings are big sometimes. Well, I don't know anything about other people's

listings. I just know about your list. So you come on the show. People love you. Did you know straight away. Did you think for a moment, oh, this is going to be smooth sailing, Heather's and I's, Michelle's nice. Like, did you anticipate having, like, beef? Not really. I mean, yes. I definitely thought people were going to have something to say about my lifestyle, but I didn't know it was going to go that left. Yeah. I didn't expect that. It wasn't a good look. For people that watch, you obviously know that Chelsea had an issue, but it did feel a bit like force in a way Because it was like, why do you care? It's okay to have like interest, like what's the tea, you know, that kind of vibe or like talking to you about it.

But it was interesting that she had. I kept on screaming the TV like, why do you care what she does so much? I feel like most people said the same thing. Yeah, I still don't know why she cares. Do you have some, any guesses? No. Honestly, I don't get it. Storyline, I don't know.

Maybe. I mean, for me, it's just like, if you care that much, you got nothing going on in your own life. that sounds like a personal problem because it was the way she shifted it towards the end is where I was like, oh, okay, so now we're trying to, we're trying to change our narrative here. Now it didn't work for you. So now you want to change it up and say, it came stemmed from my past. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Sure. Did you watch the show before going on? I did. I watched it probably the season two when they asked me. And then I caught up when I was considering coming back on. And what did you think of the cast? I mean,

I love all the girls. Yeah. Even before. Yeah, I love all the girls. I actually thought that, like, Chelsea and Christine, those would have been girls that I would have actually clicked with more. So that's why that's- You think you and Christine could have clicked? Oh, I think you could have went either way. I think it could have. I mean, we've talked. She's been nothing but sweet. But yeah, you know, it goes either way with our personalities. And then to the girls you're closest with Heather. Super close with Heather. I'm close with Emma and Chrisel. And I'm cool with all the other girls, but I just like with them a little more. What did you think of the Nicole Creschelle drama? I played the fifth. Really? It's not that. I just, I just thought it was ridiculous. Yeah. I mean, I don't.

It was more ridiculous than, then Chelsea's issue with you. Yeah, I just felt like you can't come and attack someone and think nothing's going to happen. And I was, I was proud of Creschelle. I was like, finally. Yeah. Yeah. She got her voice. Yeah, but Nicole also got what she asked for.

I know. You didn't feel, did you feel a little bad for her, like when the backlash got real? No. No. Well, you mean online? Yeah. Yeah. I feel like when people start acting crazy and like death threats and threatening you. Yeah. It's like, okay. No, it's also like, are you a loser? Do you have a life? Literally. What the fuck are you doing that? You want to kill someone because they're arguing with Chrisel. About like a list. Yeah. It's like that's where I'm like, all right, it's going a little too far. But as for everyone's response, I feel like it's warranted. Did you get, well, I saw that you got a lot of love. Did you, did it go both ways? Did you feel some needs to? No, of course. I mean, it's not, I don't feel like I. I don't feel like I. I don't feel like I. I, I personally got hate, I think, just my situation, which is expected, and which is fine. That's people's opinions. And that doesn't, like, move any bones in your body. No.

I love that. I've been hearing this forever. Like, let's talk about you, your, like, upbringing where you're from. I found out you're from Calabasas, which is, like, wild. Is it? Why? Because, like, we know the Calabasas is, like, Kardashians. And I think we don't, like, no, like, no, people are born and raised there from, like,

regular families. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's not only the Kardashians. I mean, I would definitely say there's a lot of, like, we grew up with like a lot of celebrity kids and like, you know, it's definitely an amazing area to live in. But there's not a lot of like born and raised. How did your family end up there? I guess my mom's been there. My grandma's been there. They've been there forever. Yeah. My grandparents came from Chicago and just ended up in Encino and then ended up in Calabasas. So you grew up with famous kids? Yeah. Anyone we know. I mean, well, even the Kardashians, my sister went to school with. But I mean, I'm trying to think of like who. We went with

Paulina Gretzky. We went with, we had a lot of child stars. Oh my God, what's his name? Even Stevens? No, not even Stevens. I'm like,

the cute little kid that was wearing the glasses. Oh, from Toby McGuire? Yes. Okay. Jonathan something, I think. Yes. Yeah.

Lipnicki. Aw. How's you doing? He was really sweet. He was great in school. I haven't seen him since, but. Did you move out of Calabas? No, I still, I just,

after high school, I was like, goodbye. You left. I just, came and had my own life and stayed away from everything, like high school or any of those friends. Like, I don't really, I talk to maybe like one person. Really? Yeah. Did you move to L.A. after high school? I did. But then I keep coming back. I feel like I go to L.A. for a couple years and then I'll move back to Cal Basset. Oh, yeah. And now where are you at? Now I bought a house.

I'm right in Woodland House. Cal Bass's border, yeah. It is far from like L.A. I love it. You love being far? And then you come in for things that you need to come in for. Exactly. Otherwise, I'm going to be in trouble. Now I got a kid. I got to keep my ass at home. Do you have siblings? I do. I have a sister. Are you close? Yeah.

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Well, I wanted to know, did you always want to be in the business? Because like you've been, it's like bottle girl, right? A little bit Vegas, a little bit this. Like you know a lot of people from that life. Like did something draw you into the industry? I think just being born and raised out, you kind of fall into it. I think that I just, no matter what, I just kept ending. up back in it. So I was like, fuck it. I might as well embrace it at this point because I'm here.

I tried to leave. I literally was like, I'm done. I'm going to do bottle service and I'm going to do real estate and I'm going to get out of it. And that was kind of the transition where I really thought I was going to leave that whole industry. And I was like, I want to have a baby and I just get out of all of it. And then I ended up doing the show. So I took it the other way. Really? Okay. You really did take it. It was like either that or that. Either I'm leaving or I'm like blowing it up. Exactly. But you started as a model. How did that happen? Yeah. I got recruited by a rockstar energy drink when I was like 17. And they made me their spokes model. And I worked for them for like two years. And just starting with them, I ended up getting

so many things. I got Maxim and I got all this stuff that just kept falling into my lap. And so I kind of just leaned into it. And then when I got, I think I was like 23 or 22, I started hearing about bottle service. And I was like, you can make how much working two days a week? How much can you make you can make I was working at the pools making 150k working six months out of the year two days a week crazy money a couple hours I would fly in fly back it was amazing two days a week working 150k and six months yeah that is wild it's ridiculous I know yeah so you just work weekends and then you had the rest of your time did you save up I did yeah and it was honestly it was one of the best jobs I ever had because I could study and get my real estate license I could do other things I could kind of

live in Vegas no I would just fly back and forth I lived there for a little bit. I lived there like six months, eight months. And I was like, get me the fuck. Yeah, I was going to ask you because I hate Vegas. Awful. So I was like, how did you live there? But it wasn't like a full-time thing.

Yeah, I couldn't do it. So you've been super open about your surgeries and procedures and things, which is so cool of you because in Hollywood, it's like, I never. I know it's very much. Yeah. They're like, no, I just look like this. Yeah. But does it frustrate you?

Because I feel like when you do type your name in, like a lot of things come up. Like, what you had done, like before and after. Like, does it bother you? No. Not really. It's like, I mean, everyone's so curious about it. I mean, they're curious about a lot of aspects of my life. So I just feel like it comes with the territory.

But I'm never going to not be honest about that because I just feel like in this same age with all these kids and all this stuff. Like, it really fucks up people's mental health. So to sit here and just like blatantly lie to you, I feel like it's just. Like born like this? Yeah. Like, I just look like this. Like, no bitch, you did it. But what did you have done?

I don't feel like you had that much. I mean, a little bit goes a long way, though. Okay. you're wrong. So, I mean, I'll try anything though, like any laser, any whatever, like cool sculpts, like any of that stuff. I was like, yes, I'm game. But I had- Well, I get numbing cream put on and I run out. I get scared me. Really? I'm like such a pussy. Oh, I'd never put any numbing. What? None. And I was like, fuck, I'd just do it. Oh, really? No. So they smeared me like a bagel once for some like PRP. Really? And like, I had like this much like, and I was all numb and I was like having a panic attack.

I was like, I can't do anything. From PRP? No, from the numbing cream. So you didn't even get the PRP. I didn't get the PRP. I ran out. So, yeah, I'm not. So I support. I'm just, I'm too scared. Yeah, then you probably wouldn't like any of these.

I wouldn't like any of these things. I mean, I don't think PRP is bad at all. I actually really like therapy. Do you get numb though? No. Oh, okay. So maybe I could do it without the numbing. Probably not suggested.

No? No. I do a lot of things without because I feel like my skin reacts to the numbing. So I just would rather take the pain than the numbing cream. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's definitely not pleasant.

And the other things you're going to know, your hair was blonde. I feel like that's a big difference. Like, this is very Megan Fox, like the black hair. So I, well, that was an accident. The black hair? Yeah. The black hair? Well, no.

Not Megan Foxx. So she could be an accident any day, but no. She is looking for a girlfriend. Oh, hi. I'm here. If you need me, I'm willing. So, no, I actually went to get my hair colored and a stylist I've been going to forever somehow dyed my hair like orange red.

And I actually ended up loose. my job with UFC. I was supposed to be a ring girl that night and they literally let me go. Because your hair was so bad? Because my hair was red and in my contract, you're not allowed to change your appearance. Yeah. So that was fun. So then you did black? So then I just, they were like, there's nothing we could do about it. Like you're just going to have to go darker because we'll burn your hair out of your head. Oh my God. But it's such a good look for you. So what is it naturally? It's like a strawberry blonde. What? Yeah, my son is strawberry blonde. He's got his curly hair and mixed features and strawberry blonde hair.

So what do you say to haters that are like, why are you getting all this done? Like, what would you, you don't care? You guys are just miserable. Maybe you should get something done and feel better. I don't know. And what does your family think of like the celebrity think of like the celebrity of it all and you being known and like your baby daddy is and the show and everything? Honestly, I think at this point my family doesn't really say much about anything.

They kind of just let me do me. They've kind of figured out at this point, but they don't know what I'm going to. going to do next. Yeah. Did they watch the show? Yeah. Oddly, even my dad watched the show who is so like not into this or involved in any way wants no part of it.

So it was funny to hear my dad being like, yeah, and that Chelsea girl, I don't like her. I feel like they would be proud watching the show. Yeah, no, they were. You did. You kicked us on the show. Thank you. And somehow, like, you are very private about your, like, dating life. And that's why I heard that you didn't do like other shows in the past.

Yeah. I've been asked to do every dating show. I've been asked to do all of it. I was like, no, thank you. And I actually wasn't even going to come out with my partner in situation, but I ended up getting aired out on my gender reveal, which was like just close friends. So after that came out, I was like, okay. Wait, you meant to put your gender reveal on close friends, but you put it on public?

No, no, no. I got aired out like by TMZ or a paparazzi or some person that sold us out. But, like, I never had planned on coming out with even my personal life. Really? No one had even known about my relationship until that day at our pregnancy. announcement, as they call it. What do you mean? I never announced who my child's father was or that I was pregnant. Somebody else sold my story. What? At what point in your pregnancy? The day of my gender reveal. Oh, wow. Yeah. So you know who it is? No, we still, I mean, I think. Did you try to like,

it's a weird situation because it was literally just my family and my closest friends, but we did rent a house and it was on the beach and it was like a private house. And the photos are literally from the top of Santa Monica. So I think it was the people we rents at the house from. Because how would they know exactly what bluff to get on to like shoot it? It was like a weird. But then again, you know, you can't point any fingers because we don't actually know. I mean, I just did. But, you know, it did it. But. Well, well, I did see that you and and you're the father of your child, you're going on vacations. You're doing collab pose on Instagram. What's happening lately? Same old. Same old. Same old. Yeah. It does seem like more.

exclusive or like intense. No, I think that we just are both in entertainment and we both love doing content and we understand what we do and where we're at. And we lean into it and we play with it. And it's fun for us. Who brings the content ideas? Well, I like TikToks personally. So I'll find like little TikToks and fun stuff. He's more of like a skits person. And like that's more his like acting core side. And I'm like, okay, sure. So everyone. Yeah, it's fun. That is funny. All of a sudden I sell is like, okay, they're leaning in. And he's down to, like, make fun of himself and everything. Always.

It's Nick. I love it. How did you meet? I met Nick when I, years ago, over almost a decade. And we met there, a mutual friend, Dave. Dave, I was his name. And he basically was like, I want you to come with me to the show. I want to introduce you to someone.

I ended up going a while and out, like, way back in the day. And he introduced me to Nick. And then he went to dinner and started talking. And I ended up doing the show like a couple years later. Did you start dating at that point or only when you did the show? Yeah, we started talking immediately. So we've been... Oh my God. So it's been like 10 years. Yeah. Wow. Yeah. Did you see yourself having a baby with him? We talked about it. Yeah. But I also was like, I want to live my life. I want to travel. I want to do this. I want to do that. And it wasn't until I really got to like my 30th birthday where I was like, okay, I feel like I've done everything I want to do. I feel like I'm ready now. I feel like I've like... So you wanted to be a mom. Yeah. And now you have baby legendary. Who came up with the name?

I came up with legend. He's like, no, legend is just regular. Oh, it's too basic. It's like Michael. Exactly. I got it out of flair. So it became legendary, which I love. So we actually got a tattoo yesterday of his name.

Oh, crazy. Oh, I love it. So he got it too? Yeah. So he got on his chest. I got it on my neck. Did you get legendary? Just like, it's not very love or legendary?

It's funny. We were going to get legendary love. We were trying to make it like a crossword puzzle type of style. But I was like, it's too much. I was going to like. His name's already so fucking long. You could do legendary heart. Yeah.

And like the heart is like love. I should add to it at some point. But yeah, I got it on the side. So I also read about like your past relationships and how you did get married in the past, right? And you said that you weren't even into getting married. Yes. I just felt like there's just so much responsibility that came with being married that changed the dynamic that is unnecessary to me. Like I feel like a piece of paper does not decide that I love you or that we've, you know, committed to each other or any of

those things. And I think that it's just this heavy weight of like tradition that we're supposed to do. And I'm like, it just doesn't feel right. So if I'm unhappy or, you know, you change up or something's different or we grow apart or whatever it is, like, why is it so frowned upon that like we move on? I don't know. I feel like there's just so much to it that I was just like, I don't really want to be tied down. But you did it. Yes, I did. I did do it. How do you explain it? I mean, it was really important to him and his family and their values. And, you know, it was more of a him thing. It's more really, yeah. Would you get married again? No. No, no. I don't need that. I really like, and I never had a wedding. Like, I never did any of that. I just, no, I just don't. I'd rather

buy a house or invest in something than spend a hundred-something thousand dollars on freaking day. I mean, that's cheap, I think. I mean, that's, yeah, that's true. I mean, I feel like you spend more Right, millions. And, like, Legendary's first birthday. That's just probably true. I mean, I thought I was like, oh, my God, I feel bad for Noah's, like, my son's birthday after seeing Legendary's birthday. I love Legendary's birthday.

It was so fun. It was insane. That was good. So can you tell us anything about, you know, how this works? Like, are you, can you date other people? Are you dating other people? I mean, it's free will. I can do whatever I want to do.

But there's no jealousy, no, like, that is kind of a life to live. Yeah. But are you? Because, like, you are a mom. You do have that whole life. Like, do you feel like you're more into, like, staying in, what do they call it, cuffing season? No, I'm definitely, like, in my mom mode, which is something that I love is I can really focus on my son and I can focus on my career. And we do our own thing, how and when we want to do it.

So it works for me. Like, you get the best of all work. I feel like I get the most of all the roots. Yeah. And if that changes, then that changes. And that's the thing that I feel like, it has changed. I went and got married. I did other, you know what I mean?

Like, I've come in and out. So for me, I very much do what makes me happy. So, but I just feel like no matter what he's my human, we get along. He's like my best friend. So it's just like. You feel like nothing could like change that. No, it doesn't matter. And that's what that was what was important to me and having a son.

Like no matter what people say about him, he's a good person and he's a good man and he steps up. And that's what's important for my child. Do you feel like you need to defend him like publicly a lot? I feel like I catch myself doing that. Yeah. do just because it's like I do would do that for anyone that I care about when you're attacking people's character it's just and at some point it's like even on the show it's like all right bitch I've had it like enough like we heard you we get it yeah okay yeah but it's

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Do you get hit on a lot in your DMs and stuff? Not really. No? No. Definitely not now. I used to. Yeah. But now it's like, oh, okay.

Okay. Yeah. She's at, she's at a commission. Do you care? Like, does that, are you like, no, I'm in commission. No, I don't care. I mean, I could go out and be like, hey. Right.

And then when you came on the show, how long ago did you give birth? Six weeks postpartum. What? Yeah, I was dying. Yeah. First of all, you looked insane. Thank you. How the fuck? I basically should have still been wearing a diaper at home. But like, like you really should have been. Let me just put on my helmet laying on top of my diaper and take my house. How the hell did you do that? I honestly have no idea. Like I think I literally blocked it all out. Like I don't remember even the first couple months of filming. So that's probably another reason I just didn't even engage. I was too tired. Oh my God. Were you breastfeeding? Yes. I was breastfeeding and pumping while filming. I would pump on the way there. when I was there we'd have to stop it was like you'd have to dress up in these crazy outfits and you got like your boobs leaking where we're filming it was real cute oh my god so the outfits also get a lot of like you know like do you really like do they dress like that showing a

listing do they how is that for you like are you I mean we see you dress up today too I was like this is me at like seven o'clock in the morning it is so it is yeah I've always been into it I've always been into the fashion. I absolutely love it. But I think I'm more of like a monochromatic suiting. So for me, I don't feel like it's that crazy. Like the ball gown thing isn't really my vibe. And then you said that you were like dealing with some postpartum stuff. Absolutely. While filming. Yeah. I think that was literally the hardest thing I've ever done. I think that filming kind of helped me in a sense, but it also pushed me all the way over the edge. So helped you in what way that I still had some normalcy as to like me as to like uh-huh old me and like you know

still getting up and getting ready and still like going to work and like the things that I that made me who I was before I had my son I still had a little bit of that because my life had trained so drastically and I think I definitely felt like everybody had everyone kind of lies to you about motherhood and they don't really tell you how hard it is and everything that comes with it and all of that. And I think that I thought, you know, I snap back immediately, like mentally, physically and all ways. And I had no control over my mental state, over my emotions, over my anything. Yeah. You're fucking crazy the first few weeks after. Oh, for sure. Yeah. Like, I mean, I think I'm still crazy, but it's not the postpartum. But that was just like, that was intense.

And there was like, you can't stop yourself. And I think that was what makes it so scary is because you're like, what's wrong with me? Like, nothing's wrong. Like, I have this beautiful baby and, like, why am I crying? And, like, I don't cry. Like, what the hell is wrong with me? Like, you just can't get it together. And then the pressures of, like, being on TV and being like, what if I say something

that just fucking gets me canceled or ruins me or they edit it in a way that, you know. Did you open up to the girls about, like, what you were dealing with? Not really. Heather, I feel like. Heather was really pregnant. Yeah. I had a lot more one-on-one time with Heather during season six. And in seven, I'm with the other girls a lot more.

more. Yeah. So, but she definitely, I mean, I probably scared her. It was right before her baby. So she definitely got the real. How did you deal with it? Like, how did you help yourself? And I think just working out and just trying to keep any normalcy of like my my past life before I had him. Yeah. And just trying to like really like allow myself to go through those emotions and try to like figure out and process things a little bit more. But that sleep deprivation is really real. That's something that's just like, you can't do anything about that. So, like, you're breastfeeding. I was co-sleeping. And, like, it was, that was easier for me. But then it's like, you have all this weird mom guilt of people being like, why is your kid in your bed? And then everyone's, like, you just get heat everywhere.

I did that. He fell asleep with my boob in his mouth. Yeah. And, you know, he'd even be in the car seat and he would cry and I'd fucking do my boat. And he's three now. And he doesn't breastfeed. And, like, you know, it all happens. Exactly. Fuck anybody judging anything. Yeah. I thought it was easier to co sleep, honestly. I would just roll over it. Right. But that's the thing with motherhood, what they don't tell you is like when you're making something easier, you're going to pay for it later, you know?

True. You're like, you're making it easier now because you're, like, rolling out. But then you're going to have to teach you out of like, nah, sleep right? But it's all so temporary, you know? It really is. And honestly, my son transitioned really well, so I didn't feel like, I don't know. I mean, I miss that. I wish I had more time.

Right. That's the thing you're going to want him back in your bed and back on your boob and, like, all this. I wish I could have, like, really indulged in that a little bit more. But I feel like we all say that because we're all going through so much that first year. So I think regardless, I would probably still feel the same. Would you want more kids? No.

Oh, really? I do. Like, I love my son. And I just feel like where I'm at right now in my career is already so hard. And I have so much guilt about leaving him at all. And these long film days and then actual work and then balancing anything else outside of that, I just feel like it wouldn't be fair. To kids. But you're silly.

I mean, you never know. I mean, yeah. So maybe. So not right now. No, not for at least a couple years. Not for, yeah. Because it is, it is really hard. And you have help, like.

Yeah, I do. But it's still like, I want to do it. But I also can't be in six places at the same time. So I gotta sort that out first. What did you think of Divina? I don't know why the DeVina thing is interesting to me because I do think she's a nice girl. Okay, no. Yeah.

We're not viving. No, I just know, because she became, she got like, promoted this last season. Did you, did people prep you, like, give you kind of the hierarchy of who's who or? No, I'm not really. You have no idea. Did you have any conversations with her? No. Not really. I didn't see her the whole time. The whole time you didn't see her. I think we had one office day that she was there. And I think that's it. And what about Amanda? Did you, are you close with her? I love Amanda. Yeah. You do. Yeah. So with her whole hospitalization, everything she went through. Yeah. I checked it on her. But I was also in Mongolia during the time that she was going through some of that.

So I was just texting with her and stuff. And I actually just saw her the other day at our shoot. So she's doing better. Yeah. And what did you think of Mary's managing style? Like she was getting some flag for not being. I know. Poor Mary.

Did you feel better? Like, what did you think? I definitely feel like Jason should do his own damn job. But, you know, I feel like it's a lot for Mary. I think it's just, I don't know who else would do it. I think that's kind of the other thing is that, you know, between all the other girls, it's either you got like a me or you got a Chelsea. see or you got, you know, like,

Michelle wants no part of it. Emma's so sweet. Amanda, it just doesn't really, like, who would do it? And also, like, the people that were saying, telling her that she's bad at managing wanted her to manage, like, drama. Yeah. Not office stuff.

It's like, you're so bad at managing. You're not taking a side between Nicole and Michelle. Yeah. It's like, or y'all could just act with adults and take it over there. Right. Manage it yourself. But she seemed kind of sad, like when,

did you see how the season ended, like with her and Chrisel kind of talking. Yeah. It's kind of like, Yeah. Yeah. I mean, unfortunately for me, I missed majority of that drama. I miss all the Nicole drama. I missed that. Right. You weren't at the house. No, I was really with baby a lot and I was breastfeeding. So I missed a lot of that stuff. So anytime I went to work, I was just getting yelled at. But she, I don't really know what happened with all of it. I know a little bit. But they're good. They're good now. So what do we have to expect from season seven? Season seven is come out like spring? Actually, I don't know exactly when I it comes out. But I know it's coming out relatively soon. It won't be like two years or anything. But yeah, it's a, as Chrisel called it last year, last season was a dumpster fire. Yeah. I don't even fucking know what's called this season. It's literally. When you watched

it back season six, what did you feel? I felt a lot of things. I think because it was my first season, it's like you're, first you're seeing yourself and you're like, my hair looks like shit. And this fucking lighting is awful. That's what I would care about it. But when you'd be like, what do I look like? Yeah, first you just look at it. First, you just look at it. yourself and then you actually like watch it like I would fast forward my parts and I'd be like oh no oh this is all bad and like no one told me that my tag was out thanks guys but then watching it I think it was just I don't know like just seeing how they chop everything up and just seeing like everything that happens like we film for months and you don't know what's gonna be in it what's

not and honestly at some point I think we just forget what we even did or said or what happened because we film every day so it's like it was just really you have no idea until you watch it. No, and I was like, like, postpartum Fox. I was like, I don't know what the hell I did in this. So I have no idea. So it was definitely interesting to watch. I definitely feel better about it now. Yeah. But hey, they could have made me look insane. I know. Maybe I was insane. Did you send them flowers? Like, thank you. I was like, I mean, I don't know. It was, but it was very cool. I mean, seeing it. I mean, I was really proud of all of the girls and everything. And I just have so much more respects for it. Like, a lot goes into filming a reality show. Yeah, a lot.

Would you keep doing it? Do you see yourself getting over it? Maybe. I don't know. I mean, for now, I'm in it. Definitely in it. Would you go on like another reality show like Housewives? I think I'd be in jail. If I went on. Well, I mean, the statistics are that a lot of people go to jail. I'm like, I'm not trying to fight with these crazy movies. Oh, yeah. They're great. Like you're saying they're crazier than selling sunset people.

Yeah, like you throw a drink at me or something like it's on. Like, and what about like other goals or future things for you? I have so much stuff I want to do right now. I'm like what? I'm trying to sort through everything. So I grew up in the acting world and like I wanted to, I really love like the stunt side. So stunt side. I wanted to more like action and stunt and I have like a passion for that. Yeah. Tell me more. So like I love to like ride horses and like like I was actually just doing something in Mongolia where I was trying to jump out of this helicopter and they wouldn't let me. Like I love all these like extreme. And I'm scared of numbing cream. Cool. Yeah. I'll come hold your hand for some Botox. So yeah, I mean I love that side. And then real estate. state I'm getting more into the investment side and and all of that. I'm kind of all over the place.

I've always been like that. Yeah. So I'm really trying to figure out what's going to give, you know, generational wealth also by like what makes, gives me a little part. It makes me happy. I like that. I like that you said that because I feel like one of the things that I love that you brought to the show was kind of like, okay, all this talk is about Nick and what is he giving to the kid. Whatever. And you were like, hello.

Yeah. Kind of like bringing. I'm here. I'm here. Yeah. And I want to work and provide. So where did that, like, mentality come from? I think it came from my grandma, honestly, especially back in her day.

She's going to kill me for saying that. But back in her day, like, she was supposed to be, like, at home with the kids. And, you know, she went out and worked a full-time job. And she got a career. And, you know, she's in education. And she just went to school while having two kids. And it was just different than what she was, like, supposed to do. And she just always in our upbringing was like, you do what feels right.

And what's like, what sits with you and what makes you happy. And like, you don't have to be anything you don't want to be, you know? So it was very, like, instilled in us that we had enough. I think she just gave us the correct tools to be confident enough in, like, what we felt and what we wanted to do and not feel like we had to do things because we couldn't, like, I couldn't, like, it was impossible. Like, I didn't do anything I did not. Oh, I was wild.

I didn't do anything I did not want to do. Now my son is the same. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Yeah. So, yeah, no, it's a beautiful quality. Because, like, it's hard as women. So it's like, you know. But you still have that thing where, like, you want to provide.

Yeah. So I think just seeing her do that. No, my grandpa was very wealthy. So it was, she didn't have to work. Yeah. She wanted to work. And she wanted her own thing. And she wanted her own career.

And like, I think women get lost in, and rightfully so. It's completely all indulging things to be a mom. Like, you know, you feel like it's three jobs technically to be a mom. So it's like to then pick on another career is like, why would we do that? Yeah. But she did, and I saw that she could do it. And I was like, of course, I can do it if I want to do it. And I do.

So I figure out how to make it work to where I have enough time. Everything's scheduled to the minute where I'm with my son. These are my work hours. Do not bother me outside of this. Like when you're with him. And then I make sure my weekends and all my stuff is like all him. It's adventure time for us. So I make sure I like prioritize it correctly.

And when I'm working, you know, he's doing his little classes and he's doing his stuff. So he's definitely like. Do you have a nickname? We call him Lodgy. Legging. Okay, that's cute. He's got so many names at this point. Yeah, we call him everything.

Lilo is one of them. I feel like Leggie really stuck. I think Nick calls him LLC. I was going to, because there's, right, LL. Yeah, or LL. He says LL a lot as well, so he has a lot of names. LLC. Yeah.

Oh, my God. If he opens a business, he could be LLC, LLC. Yeah. It works out perfectly. It works out perfectly. And did he, does he hang out with his like half siblings? Yeah. And I think this is seven.

something too that we get so much like what's wrong with you guys you don't let them hang out like they're babies they have their whole life they're gonna hang out like what are they right now they just kind of stare at each other which is cute but like let us all just get out of our postpartive and let the kids like have their natural like integration like most of them are young aside from like yeah they're young mariah's twins like most of them are they're babies babies yeah that is true and it's hard enough as a mom to get out the house with all your shit and the kid it's like like you don't need to put them on a like pack and play no we don't need to do all that they all met each other they all spend time you know that's also a nick responsibility i feel

you don't feel like it's yours i say it is my responsibility to a certain extent i will always like you know extend in all the branch i'll always reach out and i'm always going to be welcoming and whatever but at the same time it's definitely i feel like more of a of a him situation to maneuver yeah yeah no that makes sense well good well i'm so happy that you came on the show. Thank you. And I'm so excited for season seven. Oh, I'm scared, but excited. You're scared. Because you know why you should be scared a little bit? Not to scare you just because you've got such a good at it. Yeah. So now they're going to come for me at seven. But listen, I may, I may bring my own about it. I mean, that's how it is in like the Bravo world. Yeah. I don't

know about selling sunset. I need to look back. Well, I feel. Griselle has been like surviving season to season. Yeah. Yeah. But Chrisel's not. You haven't turned on her. Well, you kind of have to do it to yourself for a certain degree. So I may end up doing it to myself. Okay. Well, let's hope not. We'll see. You can handle it. Oh, I can handle it. Listen, if you come for me, I'm going to give it right back. As I said, I'm a mirror. You want it. Come fucking get it. So I love that. Yeah. Thanks, babe. Thank you so much. But Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write

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