Not Skinny But Not Fat - Brittany Snow is an Aca-Real One

Episode Date: October 28, 2025

Today I’m joined by someone who defined an era: Brittany Snow. From Pitch Perfect, Hairspray, and John Tucker Must Die, Brittany was the blueprint for the early 2000s cool girl but she’s also become one of the most grounded, honest voices in Hollywood. We talk about her steamy new show The Hunting Wives, turning 40, mental health, and what she’s learned about fame, friendship, and starting over.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Try the new lineup of high protein beverages at Starbucks. Your tastebuds will thank you.Right now, IQBAR is offering our special podcast listeners twenty percent off all IQBAR products—including the sampler pack—plus FREE shipping. To get your twenty percent off, text NOTSKINNY to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.Simplify your kids mealtimes. Go to littlespoon.com/NOTSKINNY and enter our code NOTSKINNY at checkout to get 50% OFF your first Little Spoon order.Get an extra $100 site credit when you sell for the first time on therealreal.com/notskinnyDon't miss the world premiere of I LOVE LA. this Sunday at 10:30pm exclusively on HBO Max. Subscription required. Visit HBOMax.com for more details.Head to Columbia.com to get your hands on an Amaze Puff jacket - they're tough on cold, soft on you.Go to shopminnow.com and enter code MEETMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hello, hello, hello, hello. Happy Tuesday, welcome to a no episode of not skinny but not fat. You guys, this year of yes has been killing me. No, I'm just kidding. Actually, it hasn't. I'm thriving. This year of yes, though, like who the hellie?

in this universe makes a new year's resolution and sticks to it. Like, how random am I that I, like, made this New Year's resolution was like, year of yes. I'm going to start saying yes to more shit, start doing more shit and then does. Like, that's crazy. But yeah, it feels good. I feel like I'm, I'm on a role. I'm more open.

And, yeah, I had my first live show last week. Woo! Like, she's still, she's still on stage. guys in new york one night only it was called and it was it was so fucking cool to see everybody and to talk shit and to gossip and to just honestly just like being the same room it was so special and the teams wanted to do a tour like from the get and i was like let me see how i feel after this like it's important to me to see how i feel like did i feel good did i feel like i wanted to do more did i feel like you know it was good like it didn't make people laugh like yes it did so

Yeah. So now it's kind of like sitting in my feelings about it for a minute, which I love to do because for a minute, six years, six years it took her to get on the stage. But yeah, it's just been a year of yes. And I've been like busy and doing things a night and like getting glam. Which like honestly like I do it's I don't love it. I don't love sitting in a chair for three hours. Like as amazing and talented as the people are and as beautiful as you feel after. I'm like, but I have to sit here. for it's not three hours actually it's actually like an hour and a half it's actually better than getting a manny petty like a manny and petty take me more time which i know we've had disagreements about yeah i also moderated the q and a for regretting you colin hoover's new adaptation with alison williams and dave franco like day franco is so fucking adorbs like we know i love allison she was on my pod and we vived and she's so great and sweet and nice and d'i franco i was like hey d'i franco he was so cool i told him that I made his wife Alison Brie say butt pussy when she did my pod because that's what

happens. There's a moment of silence and I'm like, but pussy is what I made your wife say when she was on my pod. Just such a cute guy. And this new actor, Mason Thames, like one adorable little cutie patootie and like him and Dave have this like bromance. It was really incredible to watch. And I just feel like I'm so random. Like that's just what I feel in my life. I wish you were inside of my head as I'm doing these things and saying, Amanda, what the fuck are you doing? You fucking idiot. Anyway, year of yes, yes, a year of yes. A lot of people are messaging me being like, Amanda, we know you're in your moment,

you're in your element, but you're also like not talking about season two of nobody wants this. You guys, do you think I didn't get screeners? Like, hello, like you forget sometimes. Like, I already secretly watched it. I couldn't share it because you didn't get it yet. And of course, I'm obsessed. and Aaron is just, Aaron Foster, by the way, as some of you know, because I've talked about it before, is a good friend.

And she was my first, she doesn't like when I put quotation marks over celebrity, but celebrity guests in my apartment, when I had a one bedroom, both of us are, have fear of elevators. I came to get her from downstairs and we both were like having panic attacks together, but it was so sweet. I brought like Pelegrine House sparkling water and like snacks. And she was like, isn't it a pod? What are you doing? And I'm like, I don't know. I was nervous. Anyway, I love her so much.

She's one of the realest people in fucking Hollywood. And I'm just so happy she made a hit show that everybody fucking loves. That's about Jews. And it's back and it's good. And the chemistry is there. And yes, you guys, thank you for noticing. Not only is the main character named Noah, but there is a new character named Lenny. Hot Rabbi is Noah, new character, one of his friends, Lenny.

Yeah, Aaron. I give credit where credit is. do. Anyway, on to today's guest, I've admired this woman forever. She's having such a moment right now, but don't you think for a moment that she didn't have moments before because she did. You grew up watching her in pitch perfect hairspray or John Tucker must die. She's been in so many movies that defined just like our, not childhood, our adolescents are growing up. Like, she's just part of our cultural history. But what I love about her so much

is she's so self-deprecating. She's so humble. She's so grounded. And she's just such a fucking cool girl. And she was on one of my favorite shows this year. The Hunting Wives, if you listen to my episode with Malin Ackerman, like, they're obsessed with each other. They play lovers.

Some of us pretended that they might be lovers in real life. We talk about that. She's just so great. Like, you're going to fall in love with her. her if you don't love her already like you're going to fall in love with her in this interview so excited that season two of hunting wives is filming and she she did give some tea about that she's also in the new show murdock death in the family if you guys all know about this case it's wild she plays mandy the podcaster talk about that that's out now on hulu she just has so much going on so much

coming up and she's still so fucking honest and funny so did i say her name yet oh my god it's Britney Snow. Brittany Snow is here, you guys. So enjoy this episode with the lovely Britney Snow. Welcome, Brittany Snow. I'm so excited to be here. I'm so excited to see you again. I know.

Us in 24 hours. Here we are. I know. So we met last night at Lucas Gage's book party. Yes. That was the most crowded party I've ever been to, I think. Like a dive bar growback. But I kind of liked that.

I was like, that's such a vibe that it's like, Charlie? Come here. You can come. Yeah, it's fine. Or you can take your leash off. She'll feel less like... Yeah.

Or she can just come over here. And she'll just lay here. I'm so sorry, you guys. I had to bring my dog. She was especially... Drew Barrymore requested. So... Lay down.

Well, you didn't. You were hesitating to bring her? No, I definitely didn't want to bring her. Really? I was like, this is going to be distracting. Oh, okay. But then they're not letting me go back to the hotel. They get her in between.

And Drew Barrymore especially requested. her. How did she know it? Like, because you post her? I think because I post her and I talk about her. So she was just like, she needs to be on the show. She needs to be on the show. She's a star. This is her talk show debut. Okay. So we met last night at Lucas's book party. How do you know him? I think initially we know each other through our friend Becca. And this was a really long time ago, probably like 10 years ago, actually. So he was just starting out in a way. I think he was on like a YouTube TV show. Really? I might be wrong about that. Yeah. And so you've stayed in touch all these

years. Stayed in touch all these years and I'm just so proud of him. I mean, someone who is just so unapologetically themselves, I really admire that in this Hollywood world. Yeah, that's what was nice about last night. Like, I also don't like love like events and stuff. I'm like, where do I go? And this was like, I knew it would be cool and chill. I didn't know like that cool and chill. Yeah, very cool. But you just told me you escaped early. I was there for, 30 minutes. Okay. And I'm sort of one of those people that if I get claustrophobic, then I...

I'm out. I'm out. Yeah, claustrophobia is hard. So you left early. I did. Did you have a drink? I tried to have a drink. I had like a half of a beer.

Okay. I was like, I'm going to try. And then it was just so much going on that I was like, I can't. I got out here. But I... What's your vibe, though, at, like, do you go out? Do you have drinks? I, yeah, I love, like, a good margarita.

and just like a hang with my friends. I'm definitely pro. Pro going out. Pro margarita. Pro margarita. Specifically, yeah. Me too. I'm in a margarita era, actually.

I'm in a like skinny, spicy. Yeah. Skinny spicy. I'm not on the spicy train, but I can be. Which you can't get at a bar like that because you'll literally probably die. Yeah. It doesn't taste good there. No, no, no.

It wasn't a margarita place. That was a beer place for sure. But by the way, we're close in age. I'm 37. I literally swear to God I had one and a half drinks and I woke up like not great.

Really? To this morning? This morning. Yeah. Isn't that so sad for me? I know. I've gotten to that point as well. Yeah.

It's a really dark time. It's like I used to be able to handle it. Oh yeah. I used to go running the next day. Right. I'd go to work the next day. Right. Singing like a bird.

And now I am not. Something happens. Something ships. Something. I'm glad that it does, though. Because I think those days of mine, I think back and I'm, I'm okay with leaving that in the past. Yeah, like just, there was something, though, I think it's more like looking at it, like, my body was stronger, my mind, like, what was happening that it could, like, sustain it all. Definitely.

I think we didn't have as much response. Well, maybe I had responsibilities, but I was sort of just going with it. You know, it's the early odds. Yeah. Whatever. I'll wear a tube top every day. and to show up to work. Like, I remember a dark point for me was when I was on American Dreams and I was like

16 or 17 years old and I was being allowed into clubs at the time, which is never a good idea. And it was Halloween and I had to work the next day and I fell asleep in my bumblebee costume and I woke up and just like had all of the glitter still on my body and went into work with like basically still bumble bead. And thankfully that's a 17-year-old thing to do. But I remember just like running into work full of glitter and just... And now, like, if you don't have your last ounce of, like, makeup taken off, like, you can't get in bed.

Fall asleep with makeup all now. Right. It doesn't matter how many margaritas I've had. Right? All of it's kind of. You're washing your face. It's so crazy. I guess it's a good thing.

You guys, Britney Snow is here. We grew up with you. We, I mean, just iconic, pitch perfect hair spray. John Tucker must die. You were like. the epitome of like 2000s, cool girl. I don't think cool. But there was a moment.

There was a big moment. You know, it's funny, I never knew that that it was a moment. I think also during that time, there wasn't social media, obviously. So we weren't aware of, or I wasn't aware of, I didn't know I was cool or seen or. Well, you were getting into the club without like, without having a show ID. Yeah, that's true. That's probably a parker. There was some perks.

I don't know if that's a perk. but it definitely happened. So from what you're saying, you didn't realize that you were like part of this like 2000s pop culture, DNA vibe? Absolutely not. And especially because there were so many other people that were doing so much better than I was in terms of where I wanted my career to be. So I was, I just wanted to be better and I wanted to do more serious roles.

And I wanted to, so I didn't, I wasn't aware that I was in any sort of group. It's so crazy how everything is so relative. Yeah. How it's like people can look at a person be like they have it all. They're doing all this huge shit. And then that person can be thinking, I'm not good enough. There's someone else doing bigger shit. Oh, definitely.

It's so it's imposter syndrome. I suffer from it very much so. Even now I'm always, it takes a lot for me to be like in the moment of, wow, this has happened. Yeah. Look how far I've come. Yeah. I'm always trying to and striving to be better. And that's the perfectionistic in me.

but I definitely had that as young as really early on in my childhood. So I always was like that. And I think a lot of people have that. Well, I feel like it's, even though it's hard on you, it's a nice quality to have because it keeps you humble. Yeah. And it keeps you, like, it's so much cooler to say, no, I don't know I'm a big deal than saying, like, I know I'm a big deal.

You know what I mean? And then also people would be like, girl, you were like kind of a big. Well, like not really. Like Lindsay Lohan can be on here and that, you know, that's a different story. But you know what? it's also like longevity like look at this year for you yeah we got hunting wives you have the murdoch show coming out today i think right yeah today you have so many projects coming up he's just presented the emmy's like so much so much cool shit is going on let's talk about the hunting wives

because i'm a fan oh good huge i had malin on my show i know i watched that i mean i listened to it and i watched it she's amazing who can just show up with no makeup on and just be the coolest most gorgeous thing and she's talking to you. And she's like, oh, I just rolled out of it. No, but she literally did. Like, she wasn't just saying that. Like, she actually...

I would never, in a million years. To do that, I think. I would try to put on makeup, I guess. I would be freed out. But how words did she look with her, like, wispy hair? That's just so her. Did you just meet for hunting wives?

Did you know her before? We had met through mutual friends in passing. And sort of, it was always told to me that we were the same type of, not type of person, long and we would be on the same plane in terms of, like, what matters. And, oh, no, sorry, I got distracted. I was like, there's nothing in here. She's going to freak out. Charlie's high maintenance, you guys. You know who's high maintenance? These small dogs. She's not used. A lab would

never. She's not usually. I know that's like such a stage mom thing to say. No, she's really good normally. No, but by the way, remember how we were comparing kids and dogs? So you do that with kids still. You're like, never like this. He's probably missed a nap or like, swear to God, he's usually amazing. But like he's cranked, he had too much sugar. You're always making excuses for your kids. I know. So you're there.

So anyway, yes. So Malin and I didn't really know each other. But then when we got to Charlotte, we met up. We had dinner. And it was sort of this instant connection. We relate on so many issues and so many topics about our childhood and about how we view things. And I was just so grateful that we're just really a lot. And I just think that she's the coolest.

She is. She's just such a badass. And I admire her so much. And I'm just very, very grateful that someone like that is my partner in this because it could really have gone the other way. I mean, she also said about you, like, on my show, she was like, it was a real life love story between me and Brittany. Like, we just, like, love each other. And we thought it was just so fun. We would be like, you're so pretty.

You're so pretty when you were, like, doing the scenes and everything like that. which obviously all the, like, gay lovers of this show were like, oh, my God, like thinking that meant something more like this show really did something to people. I really appreciate that people think it means something else because it really goes to show the power of when you have a female connection friendship and good chemistry, yeah. And good chemistry with someone that you admire and respect, it can look like you're in love. I mean, and I'm totally fine if people think I'm in love with Malin Ackerman. I know.

Because I think our friendship does align with that. What did you think when you, I know you're getting asked this so much of like, it was so horny and like so sexual and so naughty. And you, I feel like I've seen you kind of say like, was it that crazy? Like you didn't feel like it was as crazy as people were like, not safe for work. Well, obviously not safe for work, but like. No, and not safe for an airplane. Right.

Right. But were you like, it wasn't that crazy, guys? Like, it's not. I think when I compare it to other. TV shows, like Game of Thrones or something where, you know, that's not on Netflix. I didn't think it was that crazy. I think what was crazy is that we were breaking new ground in terms of I'm in my late 30s, Mollins in our 40s, with two women, we're doing things that are a little specific. But other than that, I mean, it's not like it went on for 10 minutes. You know,

it's not like the Game of Thrones scene where it just keeps going and you're like, can can someone stop this? So I'm, I think that we were just doing things that people were shocked to see on Netflix. And I hope, yeah, I think we were going for that shock value though. So that's okay. How did you feel like? Did you ever play a queer character before? No. And I think everyone thinks I have because of John Tucker must die and pitch perfect. And I think I always play women who have very strong female friendships and black boundaries. And are curious, maybe a little bit. curious and they're kind of down for whatever. I love that about my characters that I played. So when you got the script for hunting wives, were you like, oh my God, so down.

I was. I remember texting my agents and managers. Yes, we do text and that's how I communicate with them. Why, what do people think? Like email? I don't know. People were always like, get them on the phone. I'm like, no, I need to send a text on such right now. Yeah, yeah. No, I don't do phone. I like need somebody to call for me. Like, it's not got on the phone. But I remember texting them being like, I have a feeling that this is going to be really good. Really? And let's fight for this. And so...

Why? Because you had to audition? I was doing Night Agent at the time, which I'm in two episodes and then I die. So it's not like I had this long arc going on. But it was happening right away. And I got the script while I was in Thailand. And I remember exactly where I was overlooking Bangkok, which is so dushy and chic. But I remember thinking, wow, like this could be my next thing.

I'll do whatever. I'll audition for it. I'll do anything. And my agents and managers said, you know, wow, this is going to sound very pompous, but I had just gotten nominated, not me personally, but a short film that I did got nominated for an Oscar. And so that happened like the day before. A short friend that you were in or? That was in. Yes. And so they said, you know, now is the time that we can maybe use that as maybe you don't have to audition. Yeah. So for the first time in my entire career. I think I didn't have to audition for it was an offer only I love I'm on an offer only gal I love knowing that inside baseball yeah personally and like the listeners because again people's view of the industry is skewed sometimes you know and they can assume like you get the call like no like actors that are amazing that everybody knows still have to audition aren't offer only necessarily I mean maybe you know Brad Pitt and Emma Stone and Marvel Robbie they're not auditioning but I would imagine that that most people who are on their way

to a different level or they want to try something different. Yeah, you have to fight for it. And I like fighting for it. I like auditioning for it because it makes me believe that everything works out for a reason. And I wasn't going to show up on set and have to prove

anything to anyone. Or like they've seen that you could do it already. Yeah. And I'm already in the pocket of I am this person and you can see something about that. So was there more pressure this time because you didn't audition where you like have to come in I think because I really felt aligned with that character and it was such low stakes, which is really funny because we read these scripts thinking, this is just fun. No one is probably going to see it.

Yeah. It was originally for stars. Right. No knocking on stars, but it's a different audience, the Netflix or anything like that. Right. We were just like, let's just have fun. And then it blew the fuck up. And then you saw SNL cracked me up.

So funny. No, it, I think I had like a body reaction where I just immediately started sweating and I was just laughing so hard. I couldn't believe it. Did you see it live or did people start sending it to you? I saw it live. I got a little insider. Oh, heads up. Okay. And I'm very grateful for that. So I got to, it's such a cool moment. I'm an actor that is so strange. Cracking me up, first of all, like the way they made Malin's characters, Nails, like literally claws. Oh my God, I didn't even see that. You need to watch you back, like, these small things.

And the way she, like, on did the dress, like, had little fucking... I know, Amy Poehler, as Malin, was so good. Genius. Genius. I love it. I love the show. I'm so happy that, like, it did so well and that everybody loved it. Yeah.

And then a season two has been announced. I'm so excited. What's happening? We're filming in a couple weeks. And I was saying that to my friend Aaron last night who was at the party. She's a journalist, and so she does these really cool things where she, in the middle of bars, we'll ask, what's making you happy right now? She'll ask you. Yeah, or anybody, anybody.

Or like, who in your life do you really trust? She's a very big journalist, so I think that's why she does things like that. But, and I turned to her and I said, I just can't wait to get back to work. Really? It's such a safe environment with all the women. We all love each other. And we're just having so much fun. And there's not one person on that set that doesn't just.

gel together and... Well, that's amazing. Yeah, it's very rare. Can you give us any tease anything about the second season? Do you know? Did you read the script? I've only heard things, but I have it. Nothing substantial or nothing concrete.

Is it going to be sexier? I think it might be. It might be. Are you getting ready? I wish. I wish. I know. I probably should have hit the gym already.

I haven't. But Malin told me. Actually, Malin's the person. who told me that we're getting right back into. You're getting right back into it. Whatever that means. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

How do you prepare for, like, the sexual scenes? Like, do you take a Listerine strip, some gum, brush your teeth? There was so many mints on that set. Really? We were to the point where we got, both of us got sick because we, as women, you're so mindful of each other. Yeah. With guys, they sometimes don't care.

There's not a mint in their mouth. But with Mullen and I, we were constantly like, are you okay? Like, what is it? Can I put my hand here? Do I, you know, it was just so nice and so different than... Wait, so why'd you get sick? We ate too many minutes. No.

I'm not kidding. Wait, stop. Yeah. What, like, al-toys or something? And all these different kinds. I mean, it was like the fresh breath, like the ones in like the two or the tub. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I had like an entire tub one day when we were doing a sex scene.

We didn't even got like it like, ill. Yeah. I'm dying. Of course that's women. I know. And it's my people pleasing, too. People pleasing. She was like, girl, I don't care.

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Mark my words, it's going to be, like, the color. mark my words. Like I said, it comes in three different length. It comes in a waist length, a mid and a long, kind of loving the waist length because when I stand up, it does give kind of cropped. Also, you know, I love a little thumbhole situation. I also love how not only is it so cozy, warm, and comfortable, it's also chic. And that's important because I don't know if you guys remember Law Roach was on my pod and he, and he was. was like getting the ick from winter coats. And he was like, people think that you could just like wear winter coats and look ugly to be warm. Not the case. With this, a maze puff hood jacket, you could do both. You could look cute and you could be warm and cozy and comfortable. Also, it's obviously water resistant and this hood that we like. It can come off if you don't want it, you guys. It's removable. Which I love that. Because sometimes Sometimes you just want, like, a crop jacket look without a hood.

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to what I was thinking or what other people are thinking in terms of comfortability. So she was always very aware that she's more, she's Swedish. So she's more, I don't know, open with her, with nudity, just a little bit more. Yeah. She's still a woman and still wants to look good and isn't just walking around naked. But I was very more conscientious about it. And so she would be like, do you want me to put my body here so you don't have to show this part of yourself? I was like, this is so selfless and nice.

Yeah. Yes, please. Or how to do. But you did. You got nudie. I did. I was like, you know what? I'm almost 40.

Let's go. First of all, you look amazing. And stop talking about being almost 40 as it being old, Brittany. No, I'm just saying that that's very unfortunately rare to see women. That's wild that you said that. I'm like, really? I mean, if you think about it, there's a stigma in Hollywood that once you reach 40, you're no longer seen as a sexual being, which is completely false. So I love that our show

brought new light to that, that you don't stop having sex when you're 40. I hope you have more. Well, you know, Kim Kardashian, I believe it was the philosopher Kim Kardashian who said sex gets better in your 40s. Like everything gets better. That's what people are saying. I'm excited. I'm so excited. And I hope you guys like talk to the editors, talk to everyone. is like in charge, get this out quickly. Like, let's not draw it out. I wish I had any... Let's not do a 2027 announcement.

You know what I mean? Yeah. This needs to come quicker. I think it... I can't tell you when, but I think it is pretty quick. Yeah? Like, they know. They know what the people want.

They know that it did well in the time that it did well. It went so wild at the end, by the way. Yeah. It went off the rails. It went off the rails. It was like the substance. We were like, wait, what? It was the substance.

Let's just make a monster. Yeah, like literally all of a sudden, like phone calls, breathing, deaths, like rolling, like a full-grown man, like down. No, I don't want to give a sport. If you didn't watch, you guys, you guys know I'm obsessed with the hunting waves. If you haven't watched it, obviously, go re-bing it. Because also Brittany has so many projects coming out that we need to watch. And let me just say there's pulling him and he was on a slidey thing, Michael, Milligan, who played Kyle. He was on something that slid across the woods.

And it was still so hard. When you're hearing me, like, screaming or grunting, that's actually me just thinking, I'm going to pull out a muscle and wind up in the hospital. But he was, like, on wheels, basically. He was on wheels. There's no way I can do that. No. So were you like, guys, how's this realistic that she's doing it when he's not on?

No. At that point, chill in. There was no. There was no more asking questions. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, I love it. I loved it. Obviously, one of the biggest roles of your career was pitch perfect.

Amazing. First of all, fans are still doing edits. That's so nice. Isn't that, like, so special? It's so special. It's so, I mean, I know that I feel like that about certain films. I was getting ready to come here and I was like, I had an outfit for my stylist. And then I just changed into this jacket that my mom wore in the 80s.

And I thought to myself, it's like that part in mean girls where she's like, oh, I love your bracelet. And it's my mom's from the 80s and it's fucking hideous. I was like, I hope Amanda doesn't think this is fucking hideous. I love it. Anyway, long story short, I think about mean girls all the time or movies like that. And it's so cool that I'm in one of those movies that people think about like that. So what are lines that are said to you most often from the movie? Aka Awesome.

Yeah, Aka Awesome. Or Aka Something. What else? Yeah, I'm not sure what people say, but everyone really wants to know about if we're all friends. Right. If Chloe is real, you know, things like that. If you're all friends, IRL. In IRL.

And are you all friends, IRL? We are. I mean, we have a group chat that. keeps going and we are family. Is it called pitch perfect? No. I think it's called Bellas. Oh, that's cute.

I think it really is that cheesy that it's called the Bellas. I love that. And we are like a dysfunctional family where you have your extended cousins and stuff like that and we're all these different personalities, but we really do show up for each other, which is nice. That is really sweet. Well, I saw like Anna Kendrick saying like there needs to be something about where but Chloe is now and they're together. I hope so.

Well, we were saying before that a lot of your characters have that, like, curiosity. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Were people feeling that at the time, or do you feel like it was something that came out, like, later? Well, it wasn't written like that necessarily. Oh, really? Maybe I give off an energy that I'm really appreciative of. You think? Not that.

Are you, like, a mother in the gay community? I don't know if I'm mother. I think Mollin's mother. Malin's mother. SMG is mother. Oh, Michelle Geller. She's mother to me. But your mother.

I think you're like mother. Oh, thank you. Do you get what I mean? I mean, yes. Question word? Yes, question. I think so. I think we're there.

Thank you. Yeah. But you're saying you gave off like it wasn't necessarily written that way, but people, but I'm saying like I saw this edit that was like the shower scene, like just like looks that you gave each other, you know, where people are feeling that. I think it was sort of that archetype. of two girls in a shower. And I think Kendrick and I wanted to do more with it. You call her Kendrick?

Yeah. Because there's another Anna, so I always call her Kendrick. You are like a cast thing? We mostly do, but yeah. Really, Kendrick. I think I started. Hardcore. It's like Kendrick Lamar.

Yeah, it is really cute. Especially because her and Kendrick Lamar, you don't get them confused. You're like, which Kendra? Yeah, yeah. But I think we were sort of wanting it to be a little more. spicy just to shake it up. And so then it became when it became, but we had no idea that it would mean so much to people. Yeah. And I think that was very surprising. Girls have come up to me and said that that was the moment they realized something about themselves. Wow. And you're doing it

again, by the way. In Honeywaves, Mother. I love it. I'm telling you. I am so honored. I love that. You need a float at the parade. So would you do? Would you do? Would you do another pitch perfect? Oh, definitely. Yeah. We all would. You all would. So what is it? What do we have to do? Who do we have to talk to? I mean, it's, I don't know because I know nothing. I always say that. I'm, I'm like very Chloe in the way where I don't really know what's going on. I just sort of organize the party. But I do feel like we would all do it because we love being together and we want to sing and dance. You get paid to sing and dance. I mean, how can you complain about that? And you're such a good singer. Like how? I always wonder about people, actors, like, how do they get three talents? Like, it's not fair. I think, how do you know how to

sing and act and dance, let's say? It's like three, you know, it's like a J-Lo trifecta. Yeah, well, J-Lo really knows. Yeah, J-Lo is like, yeah, she's on a crazy level. But I'm like, wow, the talent is just like, so when did you find out that you could sing? My mom got me into the business when I was a baby pretty much. And so I was doing commercials and stuff by the time I was like three. And so by the time I was six, I was already in singing and dancing and acting classes. And yeah, I remember doing like little shows and things like that. So I don't know if singing, you can sing real well at six, but I was trying.

I was in a vocal training. Wait, so when your mom took you at three, was it like she's such a cute baby? Like she needs to be in commercials? Yes. and I always was performing something. So she didn't, it didn't come out of nowhere. Yeah. I really enjoyed making everyone sit down and watching me, which is not something that carried

on into my adulthood whatsoever. But when I was a kid, I really liked putting on performances. You mean like you had more confidence as a kid? Oh, definitely. Yeah. And I wanted to be the director, the star, the producer, the writer. And then my friends who came over could be like the trees. Like they, they mean like you're the fucking.

I'm Snow White, I'm also the prince, I'm all of the characters, all the seven dwarves, and you can be the tree. And that changed, like that. Oh, definitely. Oh, wow. When I became a teenager. Got the confidence went down a little bit. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

I was no longer, I wanted to be the trees for sure. Really? Oh, yeah. So how did you become who you are today if you wanted to be the trees? That's such a good analogy for me wanting. No, the wanting to be the trees is hilarious and I'm upset. I went through a long time where I did keep myself pretty small because I was very scared of a lot of things. I was definitely scared of people's eyes on me or perception.

I didn't like to be looked at. And I think over time and being in my 30s, I know that I needed to get rid of that in order for me to be able to do the things that I wanted to do. So it was necessary. Well, it must have been, though, such like a conflict. it's like you knew you loved this world, you knew you wanted to do it, but there was part of you that's like fighting it almost, like fighting the attention. Definitely. I was very, I'm a very sensitive person. I was a very sensitive kid, specifically in my, in my teenage years and early 20s. And I just, I took everything very, Malin likes to say,

I wear my heart on my sleeve. And I really do. I wear everything on my sleeve. And so I think I took everything very heavily. And I just, yeah, I did. I think I was okay with not having my career be very big because it was safer. Protect yourself. You know, I just saw it because Diane Keaton, we lost an angel, lost an icon. So interviews of her have been coming up for me. And she actually said that in an interview back in the day where she said she asked her if she has any regrets.

And she said one of her regrets is like protecting herself too much. because if she let herself really get after it. I mean, she had a huge career, but like she probably had some regret that, you know, she didn't do it all. But she said something so similar to what you're saying, like that she was so concerned with protecting herself, not getting hurt, like, you know, all these things

that maybe she didn't do the most that she could do or like everything that could have happened didn't happen because she was. That's exactly what happened to me completely. I think I grew up with very performance-focused parents in terms of like, and also I became a perfectionist because I thought if I could control the environment, then everyone would be happy and no one would be mad and everyone could look over here, look over here, but I had to be perfect in doing that. So if I wasn't going to be perfect, I didn't want to do it. Yeah. And so that kept me from just putting myself out there and messing up and going into auditions and bombing them. And I, I kept myself smaller, but I think when I turned 30 and there was like a total shift that happened and I just stopped caring as much and I failed a lot and I took some time off in my 20s of acting

and by the time I got restarted and started again, I did find a new passion for it and a new acceptance of being okay with messing up and starting over and things like that. at this moment that you're having? Like, does that happen by fluke that it's like, boom, this year you're having like such huge, you know, huge roles and you know what I mean? Like, or is it a plan thing? Does it just so happen that you filmed all the shit and it's coming out the same year? I think it's both. I think it's sort of by accident. Like you pick up the phone the agents? This is my year. I want to mean, I don't think that necessarily happens. I mean, it could maybe to someone more famous. But I think it just, I was really in a flow, it sounds so cheesy,

but I was really in a flow of I know what I'm capable of and I'm not going to get in my own way. I'm not going to self-sabotage myself anymore. And I just took that out of the equation and I just got out of my own head and I got out of my own way. And then things just started happening. Were you saying yes to more? I was saying yes more to taking chances. Yeah. And I just got less in my head. And how do you get it out of your own head when it's like in life and you're just like in spiral mode? So we're at the Emmys and Mal and I are in the audience. We're sober. We're just like there for the, you know, ride. We have no reinforcements. And Molly, no reinforcements in terms of like, we're just there for the party. And she turns to me and she's on the phone and she says,

we have to present. Someone dropped out. We have to go up there. We have to present in 30 minutes. Wait, it was last minute you're presenting that? Yes. The show is already happening. And we just, and I said, you've got to be kidding. This is like a nightmare. And she was like, no, the weirdest thing that's so different for me than how I used to be, a calm fell over me. And I thought, oh, I'm going to be able to do this. This is cool. I can do this now. Wait, you're in the audience watching the Emmys. Yes. It's like three hours long. So you're at like the hour mark, yes. Somebody comes up to in the audience and is like...

Molly gets a call from her publicist. My phone's on silent and so I didn't hear it, but her public... They're calling us. And she picks up and she turns to me. I thought she was playing a practical joke. Right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No.

Like, we got to go backstage. We have to present right now. And I'm in a dress that I cannot walk in. I can't even take... Was it that the pink dress? Yes. Yeah, yeah. But there was no give.

Like, not enough. Because you thought you would just be. posing on the pocket, on the carpet and sitting down. So I'm thinking, cool, I'm going to have to walk out there in front of all these people in front of Seth Rogen and Tina Faye and I can't walk. But I go back there. They have nothing written for us. And we're going on, you know, now it's like 20 minutes.

And Patricia comes up to me while we're trying to figure out what to say. And I was like, hi, how are you? And she's so lovely. And she was talking to me. I don't know about something. I'm freaking out because I have to go on in 20 minutes. And I said, are you excited? Are you excited to go home?

I said, are you excited to go home? Like after the Emmy? Yes. Like, basically, like, are you excited to just get out of here? Because I can't deal with my dress and you must be. And she was like, no, I'm really grateful to be here. And she was so lovely about it. And I was, what is wrong with you, Snow?

Anyway, so, of course. What the fuck is doing? I just was like, cool, tonight's going well. And then I turned to Malin and I said, I got it. We have to make a joke about how I'm, I can't walk out. And it's hard for me to come out. Oh. And she was like, are you sure that's going to land?

I was like, yes. Like come out, double me. I can't come out because I've been taking so long because of my dress. She was like, okay, then I'll say, I don't mind waiting for you to come out. I can't believe you guys have to write your own thing in 20. Do people know this? Is this breaking news? Probably.

Breaking, put it on the bottom, put it on this girl. That's crazy. So you're coming up. No one's helping you, telling you what to say. I even turned to Tina Faye, who will never remember this in a million years. And she's, you know, talking to somebody else. And I said, Tina, can we get a punch up or any help? And she was like, ah, you know, like, just, I was like, no, I'm serious.

You're like, please. Please help me. No. Because you could have went on and not been funny. Like, that wasn't expected. Like, you didn't have to, like, be funny. But it ended up being funny and you came up with it. I just was praying to all of the universe that.

my dress could make it into a bit so I wouldn't look so stupid walking out there. But you know what I think that nobody cared about the dress being stupid? No. What people loved was that fucking double-entundra moment. Right. And the call-out hunting wives. And we would have thought for a million years that that was so planned that obviously both of you were asked to present at the Emmys.

It's just great that Mullen also was so game and she calms me so much. And I think I calm her too because she was. was a little bit more nervous for the first time than I was. And so I was, yeah, we kind of play off of each other. And we just, like, stood back there and held hands and we're like, so cute. But anyway, Patricia. Patricia said, grateful to be here. So grateful to be here. But then later, last night, when we were doing a panel, we were backstage. And I, you know, she's so nice. And I said, I'm so sorry about the Emmys about me saying, Are you excited to leave? You know, that was so stupid of me.

Of course you want to be there. It's the Emmys. And she was like, Britney, I can't do her voice, but I wish I could. It's so soft and soothing. She's like, I don't care. I didn't even think about that whatsoever. I don't even remember that. And every time that you do that, you need to just say to yourself, like, no one cares.

Everything's fine. She was like, just sing to yourself. No one cares. Everything's fine. No one's going to remember that. Like what we spin about is so not what anybody cares about. No one cares. No one cares. No one cares. You're a nerd. Everything's fine. Whatever. You know, like, just make up a song. I was like, I'm going to take that advice. We'll be right back after the break. You guys know this about me already. I'm a bar kind of girl. I've been searching for the ultimate bar my whole life. No, actually, like, I need to have snacks in my bag. And it's funny because when I was pregnant, it was like understood by everybody. But now that I'm not pregnant, it's like, why do you need snacks in your bag? Because I need them because your your blood sugar crashes because you get hungry in between running errands

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And you just worked with her on the Murdoch show. Yeah. That's amazing. I watched the documentary. Obviously, I'm going to watch the show. It drops tonight as we're filming this October 15th, right? It's out already. And you play Mandy, the journalist with the podcast.

I do. How it feel to be a fake podcast. I know. So great. I love her. We've become friends. And it's such an honor because she plays such an integral part of not only the story, but about the case and breaking the case.

And it really shows what true journalism can do. And it was cool because I've never played a real-life person before. So I really wanted to personify and encapsulate the essence of her. And she's got a really specific, cool voice, not only physically, but emotionally. And so I think that all of those things were a challenge for me that I enjoyed. Are you a murder mystery gal? Oh, you are? I really am.

Yeah? So much so that, like last night, as I was going to bed, I was watching the BTK killer thing on Netflix. Oh, I'm not going to watch it. As I'm drifting off to sleep. Like, what's wrong with me? You mean, that's like literally a sleeping Philadelphia. But I think the great thing about the Murdoch murders death in the family that I'm in,

we really were victim focused more than anything and we didn't want to give as much of a voice to Alec for all of his bad deeds, but we wanted to give voices to the victims who were reduced so many times to headlines and just names. and we wanted to show through acting and performances what their life was really like in their relationships. I love that. I'm so excited to watch it. Is it a, is it all out?

Is it one by one? The first three episodes are out now and then it's sort of one episode after that. And what was it like working with Patricia Arquette? Well, we're not in any scenes together. Oh, you're not. I know, because I'm reporting on her. Right. I'm not.

So it was a very interesting experience to be a reporter on a story because I did sort of feel ostracized from the story, not from the actors, but... From, like, the family and everything that was going on. But that was good. It was a part of what really happened, so... And were you in it, like, when everything came out? Oh, yeah. Were you watching everything? And so you were ready. I was familiar with Mandy's podcast. Really?

Her voice. The whole thing. I knew all about the case. So when this opportunity came in, you were like... Oh, yeah. I was really ready. I was filming another show at the time here in New York called The Beast in Me that's also coming out. And I was like, this has to be my next thing. I will do anything because I already know so much about the case. So what did you do? How did you? Was it offer only?

Was it audition? For the second time. See? You're one of those girls. You're like, no, I have that. You're getting it. Maybe not. But I had a meeting with Aaron Lee Carr and Michael D. Fuller.

Yes, they have middle names that they like to say. But they were just so incredible. And I was such big fans of them. And we had the best meeting because I just kept. spitting facts about the case. No, that's amazing. Like, what's better than that? Like, you know everything. You're an amazing actress. Like, done fucking deal. I hope so. Yeah. And I'm not in it as much as I, a lot of my part got cut. And I know that it was because I'm sort of a siloed story because it really needs to be about the actual case and what happened. But I was

just so grateful to be a part of it. I mean, truly, it's a show that I would watch. And so that's always a marking of something I want to do. So when things get cut, because they get cut all the time in the industry, right? Oh, yeah. Does it, what does that feel like? Like, is it, because you sound like you're so positive about it and. There was a scene in Hunting Wives that I was really upset that got cut because it sort of made sense why my behavior was so weird on the show. I read all eight episodes at once.

And there's a scene that I read in episode eight where she has this complete panic attack, breakdown Sophie's character. And it's, she starts hitting herself and hitting her hand on the steering wheel and crying and screams. And then she goes right into stoicism and just becomes completely void and gets out of the car. And I remember thinking, oh, that's how she reacts to problems. She's become so used to being a mother and a woman that will only have breakdowns in her car. So I thought, well, that's how I'm going to play her character, just like sort of. Yeah. And then, but when you take that scene out, it just looks like I'm completely dumb. Well, no, but now that you're saying that, it's like, even when she gets arrested,

it's like you're accused of a murder, you're like, you know what I mean? Like, you're pretty okay. You handle it. You're like, I'm going to prove to them that it wasn't me, but you're like stoic. And so you're saying that, that car scene would have made sense. I loved that car scene. Did you ask about it? Yes.

And I told Rebecca, I was like, that makes why I'm. So why is it so important? Why can't they put in those? They said that episode was too long. But anyway, they promised me that it'll, in season two, it'll make more sense. Like you care about Sophie. You need her to, like, need there to be. I care about, I care about the fact that she had coping mechanisms that I wanted to work into the character.

And, you know, I shouldn't have probably rested. And looking back, I probably shouldn't have rested so much on that one scene. Yeah. I've been on the other side of that. I, when I directed and wrote a movie called Parachute that you can rent. Yes. I had to cut so many things. Where do we rent it?

Anywhere? I think it's on Peacock. You can iTunes it. How is it directing? So great. It's one of my favorite things that I want to do again. I loved it. It was such a great different part of my brain that I was able to gain confidence using.

But going back to the cutting of it all, I know exactly why people cut things in movies. had to do that so many times in the movie with the best performed scenes sometimes. So I don't take it personally. Yeah. I just more care about my character. Right. It's so interesting. People could get their entire role cut out.

Yeah. Which I feel like has started to be reported on. And I kind of don't like that for the actors. I know. Right? Like I posted something about it because there was this actor. He was actually in the murderers show, the Nicholas Chavez, who played the Menendez brother. And the thing came out, like, his role entirely cut from, like, some movie.

And I'm like, can we not? Because, like, it just feels kind of would he want people to know that? Like, he worked so. It just, people are getting upset about a lot of things that have become, things have become, like, fair game. That and also, what do you think of? We're seeing now so much paparazzi of things filming. So what do you think of that?

Like, people are disappointed. Like, let's say devil. whereas Preda, too, is filming, right? So we see all the guest stars because they're filmed in New York, like, we talked about when you kind of started out, no social media, we wouldn't know until shit came out. So how do you feel about that? Because you've been around for a while, that we, like, get the tea kind of before or sneak peaks or just know too much about what's going on?

I think it sort of is also a part of this, like, huge other problem where everyone wants to have an opinion before they actually know all the facts and their facts. formulating an opinion way before they have all of the knowledge of what's really going on. And I think that's happening with albums or with movies. You know, you just are quick. Everything is very quick to judge. Quick to, I don't like it. I'm quick to be like, she looked weird in that interview.

She must be a bitch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I think that's the same thing with movies, too, is unfortunately now there's so much content and there's so much happening that people like to, it's an element of control, right? you're like, well, now I don't have to think about that anymore because I saw the behind the scenes footage and I'm not going to see the movie. Right, right. And it's living in the like, I don't know, it kind of looks whatever.

Maybe I'll see it in a year from now or not is harder, which is a shame. I know. Things have gotten. It's like I love breaking the fourth wall and like I told you knowing a little bit of like behind the scenes. But again, something about let us like watch the movie. You know, let us not know what's happening and. with Carrie Bradshaw and sex.

Like, imagine we saw, like, her and Aden. What did you think of in Just Like that? Like, were you on the hate train? I wasn't. I watched, well, this is all I will say. I only watched the first season. Take what you will. And I love Sarita.

Serita's a friend of mine. And so I wanted to support her. Yeah. And I love Sex in the City so much. I've seen every single episode. And so I wanted to honor it. I feel like that's what they, wanted to do as well with ending it, you know?

What's been the biggest so far, and I will say so far, because it's just the beginning, pinch me moment of your career? I mean, the S&L was definitely one of them. Yeah? You know what's going to be next? Hosting, babe. Oh, my gosh. Would you die?

I would die and I would be so ready. Yeah? Yeah, put me in coach. I love that. Put me in coach. Oh, yeah. I've been training, I feel like mentally for that. I could also be the musical guest.

I could absolutely not. And also people who do both, I am, you know, wow. That is two different brains at the same time doing a show. I would like to really just focus on the cue cards. I think that's the hardest part about it is the changing of the cue cards. Well, yeah, I went to see it one time and I was such a nerd, because again, I love the behind the scene stuff, that I just couldn't stop, like, watching the sets change and everything that's happening to make this all happen, was insane.

It really is insane. And then, like, I was just watching Pete Davidson, like, backstage, because you see the backstage. I was like, oh, my God, you know? And it's all so much smaller than you think it is, which I do think probably helps the hosting her performances, because you sort of have to not, pretend that you're not doing it live to the whole world. I feel like it's going to happen this year.

You're turning 40 this year. I am. Yeah. That's so exciting. It is really exciting. I'm ready. You are. Because you've been saying, I mean, you did say a few times in this interview, and I completely

agree with you, how there was something about turning 30 that shifted something. Oh, definitely. That's what I say to people, too. I'm like, aging is great. I know. And I think it's so, I remember seeing interviews with different actresses that I admire. I remember Amy Adams did an interview that I love where she was talking about her 30s is really where she came into herself.

And I was like, oh, I hope that happens to me. So it seems cliche, but it did. It did really happen to me in my 30s. And I think I just stopped, like, self-destructing. I don't know. In my 20s, I was just, no one was paying attention because everyone was paying attention to Lindsay Lohan. But I was a mess.

Like, but was it a mess, like, in the same way? No. It was more emotionally. Emotionally. Emotionally. Behind closed doors. Everything with me was always behind closed doors. Yeah.

Because I wanted to look perfect. So it was, it was. But I'm so glad. that it was like that because I got to come out the other side, take two years off of acting. And by the time I was 26, 27, I was like, okay, I know myself now. I'm ready. So you're kind of happy that it happened when you were younger. And you've been open about that. You also have a mental health foundation or September letters, right? So can you tell me a little bit about that? Yeah, I started September letters because I, when I was a teenager, I found,

an article in a magazine about a girl who had an eating disorder. And I was in a fitness magazine. So I was looking for like the newest app trend and what I should be eating that day. And here was this girl talking about the same things that I was doing with food. And it was in a written word. And it was the first aha moment that I've ever had where I realized, oh my God, there's a name to what I'm doing. And I don't feel crazy. So I carried around that article in my back pocket as a symbol to me that there's hope and were connected and somehow this woman in me that I don't know. And then many years later, I did an article for People magazine where I talked about how that article had changed my life and how I was beginning my recovery process and just about eating disorders in general.

And at that time, no one was talking about them. And I went to a coffee shop after the article came out and a girl was in front of me and she turned around and started crying and she pulled out my People Magazine article from her back pocket. And she said this was the article that was helping her, you know, save her life. And oh, wow. So I thought, wow, I really have to do something with this idea that sharing your story in an article or telling someone about yourself or a stranger could be the very thing that people need to hear to get better. So September Letters is a mental health website and platform and community of people just sharing their truth and things they've been through and helping each other out. Can anybody contribute on there?

Oh, wow. I love that. Well, thank you so much for being open about that, like in your career about mental health issues. How do you feel now? Like, do you ever fully heal from that? I do. I don't know if your brain ever goes back to someone who hasn't had an eating disorder, depression, or anxiety, but I do have so many tools now in my toolkit or, or my toolkit, or in my brain that it's the voice, the eating disorder voice is so soft now. Oh, okay. Good. And so that is you know, the marking of how much recovery I have and how proud I am of myself because it used to be very loud, deafening, like couldn't go to an event because I felt so fat and ugly. Oh, my God. And now I hope you feel beautiful. I love going to events. They're so fit. Yeah. I love this

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