Not Skinny But Not Fat - Bullies on the Bachelor

Episode Date: February 9, 2021

Arielle joins me today to talk about the bullying going on on this season of The Bachelor- are we overly sensitive? Are the producers to blame? Has it always been like this or is it really the worst this season? We talk about Queen Victoria, Rachael who Matt is soooooo falling for, and other updates from Bachelor Nation. We also touch on the latest celeb news- Kourt & Trav, Armie Hammer, Madison LeCroy, Rebel Wilson’s single, and more! Produced by Dear Media  See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. Okay. For those. Those of you that have been listening to this podcast from the beginning, my co-host was always, mostly always, my sister, Ariel, and she makes guest appearances now that a lot of you enjoy for some shocking. It's not like they make guest appearances. You fired me from being your co-host, and now I'm on and you rehire me and then you fire me again. but I love to talk about this shit.

So I'm like, sure, I'll talk about it. It's like what we talk about anyway. So let me just give people a little bit of you. I feel like no one ever said anything bad about you in your life. In my life? Well, that was just me making it pretty at the end. But like, let's say, I don't know, not that I read negative reviews about myself in my podcast, but like people can say a lot of negative things about me.

No one has ever said like, are you? she's really a mean one like because even when you were on i feel like you were always the like voice of no but like she's nice don't say that amanda and maybe that's why you were fired because you were making me look bad not first of all not at all i am just maybe like you're feisty and that's why you are not skinny but not fat but like nobody actually like cares you know like you're you're You're not skinny, but not fat. You're the influencer here. Oh, Ariel.

The influencer. Cut it in post. But no, I wanted to say something else. Okay. So that's why you're on because we like, because this podcast used to be just all. What was that face at? No, what? You.

But I'm cute? No, that I, now I looked back and I remembered when we like would do it every week together. And it was like so fun. We'd like make drinks and we'd have like a little. happy hour podcast. Now it's like, now it's like Noah's sleeping run to the computer, like run to this. So A, don't touch your mic. Now you're flashing me back to when I hated recording with you. Don't touch your mic. So, so this podcast used to be all about pop culture. Every week was just like a rundown of all the events and reality shows and celebrities and blah, blah, blah, which you can get that on my

Instagram always. And now I do have a lot of fun guests. And we also discuss those things. But I love when Ariel comes on from time to time to talk just about that stuff. And also, I didn't have a guess for this week. So that's really the honest truth right there. But we do have, well, A, let's give just the background of why you're not physically with me. Yeah, you guys, we've been, our little quarantine bubble has been infested. Broken. Infested. So Ariel's boyfriend got the corona, which is so wild because, I mean, let's give the whole thing. He has an autistic brother. He is his caretaker. And can I say that? Yeah. Okay. And he was, we got a message that he's eligible to get the vaccine because of that reason. So he went to get it and then had like what we thought

was side effects of the vaccine. We're like, oh, sucks for you. You know, arm was sore. He was tired. His head hurt. It was a few days of this. He even talked to. Talked. to like the nurses. They were like, that's normal. Then Ariel, who like runs the fucking household was like, we should take a COVID test. Like, I was even to her like, that's a really weird thing to do. He just got a vaccine. That would be way too weird.

Lo and behold, it comes back. He comes out positive. Positive penny. He was having symptoms. And the first few days, I was like with him, sleeping with him. Like, that sounded wrong, but sleeping in the same bed, like breathing him in. And then I was like, we have to go get a freaking COVID test because something's off here. Like, it's too many days.

And then he did and he was positive. And I've been sleeping on my couch ever since. So it's so crazy, you guys, because imagine the coincidence and the like, just awful, awful coincidence of getting a COVID test and probably getting the virus a few days before you got, sorry, the COVID vaccine, being lucky enough to get it because in fucking the U.S. it's shit right now, like in Israel, my husband, because we're still like citizens, got a message that he's eligible for it because he's over 35. And I think today already, anyone over 16 can get it. And the country is going to be fully vaccinated by March. And for all this, people were like,

oh, it's a smaller country. Yeah, duh. But they also bought enough vaccines for their small country and are running it extremely well and getting everybody vaccinated. So there's going to be an end in this, like an end in sight. And not to get too into that stuff. But, Here it's like, I watch the news and it's like, you know, health people and over 65 or 75 even. And it's just like, when is there even a future in which we can get it? And it's not like fucking crazy. Anyway, her boyfriend has it. We were all freaking out because we saw you guys over the weekend.

And I was in the same car, closed car with you. And you guys were at our house on Sunday night. So we all got tested. We all came back negative, even Ariel. And we live in New York City apartments. so not like a separate room to quarantine in. So he's in the bedroom. Ariel's birthday is coming up.

It's just a lot. It's a lot. And it's the first time we felt this virus close to us. Like we felt kind of untouchable until now because we were so good at quarantining. We have not been seeing anyone outside of our family as crazy as that sounds. And if we had that person quarantined, so this feels like a really strange thing. and we're trying to take all the precautions, but it's just such a scary thing.

And he's feeling fine. That's the other thing. The corona that he got was a really light one. Like, I hope anyone who gets it this way. He had bad headaches for a couple days, but not too bad. Like, we thought it was the side effects of the fucking vaccine. I mean, he has some bad luck. So fucking annoying.

But, I mean, and now, and he's getting the vaccine. So now, like, not only is the vaccine, not that it's useless, but, like, he's, already going to have antibodies from the virus. And now he's like due to get his second dose soon. So he'll be like extra protected. And he's the only one in our family that like works outside of home and with other people. So it's good that he's, you know, protected now. It's a good thing, maybe. It's a good thing. Anyway, so that's why we're doing this not together via Zoom, even though as most of you know, she lives in my building and she's two floors above me. Okay, you guys, sorry to interrupt, but I really want to tell you about Bruch.

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episode. I, you know, posted on on Instagram. I am so scared to be hurt again by Rachel and her perfect eyelinered eyes. You know what I mean? I'm scared to be duped. She's too good to be true. I did post the TikTok that was kind of alluding to the fact that she has like a racist history comes from like a family of Trump supporters. I am not judging who our parents vote for. And in that TikTok I don't see her face it's kind of like blurred out I do see that she liked certain things I'm putting that aside in our discussion of her because listen like one ticot can ruin a person's life and like I didn't do the deep dive and I don't know the information so let's just go by what we saw in the episode when we're talking about her right now okay she's beautiful like you can't

like not say that she's gorgeous but like you like don't even get dup like just don't even believe what she's saying like it's just not it's not real like a she's already in love with matt like when has she like had time to fall in love with him well also there's nothing to fall in love with because matt is like a snooze fest like if he was quarantine crew matt i'd be like okay dancing fun he's like on xanax matt but i think the bachelor does such an awful job of showing the actual like bachelor or bachelorette's personality like we know he can be funny we know like they had like a whole quarantine crew like tic-tac going on like we know he has a personality but bachelor producers just focus on like when he's talking about serious stuff and i think

he's so bad about not expressing his feelings but like being like the bachelor and saying the things that like a bachelor says that it's just on it's a snooose stuff. It's a snooest. Listen, you can't be built like that and have that body and be like the funny. You got what I'm saying? Like him, first of all, I had Violet Benson on my podcast like the other week, whatever. She went on a date with Tyler C. She tells us about it.

And she said, like, listen, he's boring. And I was like, I could totes see that. Like, like in terms of hanging out like one-on-one, can't you feel like he's like, yeah. Like, I don't know. They're not like the most. They're not like comedians. They're not Adam Sandler's, okay?

They're not Dave Chappelle's. Like, they're not going to, you know, be the funniest guy in the room. They have thousands of abs. And also the producers and the show is really focusing on all this petty drama, which, like, we know every, you know, season has that. You have the villain. You have the this. You have the two on ones. You have the person that comes for fame.

We know the fucking schick. Maybe change it up. I don't know, maybe. But also, you're right. It's like showing all these boring Ariel. I've literally yesterday I posted I was watching The Bachelor while I was with my baby while I was eating while I was folding laundry while I was working. It's like I couldn't find more things to do of how bored I was of this like drama. I didn't even know that MJ girl with the curly hair. I don't even know what the drama with her was because you know what? I don't care. Yeah. It's there is I don't think that they have anything else to focus on like there are no extravagant dates. There is no traveling the world. Like, there is none of that.

So, like, they are just focusing on, like, what TV they can make. And it's so petty. And every conversation that Matt has is about that. And I, and you know what? We also have not seen bullying like this on the show ever. And it is bullying. It is bullying. These girls are mean.

Victoria is mean. MJ was even mean. Anna was mean. Like, you, I understand that Britain. like we don't know what's happening with Brittany like she may or may not be an escort that's her life but you can't mess with somebody's livelihood like that like you can't go spreading this rumor to everybody on the show when it the show is going to be aired and it can mess with their livelihood with their career I don't know but I I just feel like it's very mean this season and

like the types of the kind of mean stuff that happened before isn't like what's happening now like these girls are just I feel like these girls are just awful I I think that, okay, and this is where people are going to hate me and love you. I think we've gotten so sensitive. I feel like, don't you remember Hannah Brown? Didn't Kaylin, like, hate Hannah Brown? Hannah Brown hated Kalin. Didn't everyone, like, hate Kalin on that season?

They were all like, she's fake. She's a pageant. I feel like every season has that. I feel like as we become so overly sensitive, like, that girl was crying. She's like, she called me a ho. So she fucking called you a ho. If I was called to ho, A, I would take it as a compliment because, like, I'm literally the prudest fucking whatever. But if, if let's say someone called me a hoe and I was in a hoe, or even if I was a hoe, I feel like I can't, I can't see myself taking it that seriously the same way as Brittany.

Let's say she works. I don't know her job. Let's say she's an accountant. Okay. And let's say I'm on there, right? and I'm an accountant. And someone's like, Amanda is an escort.

I'd be like, that's really a funny joke. Like, thank you. Do you what I'm saying? I feel like they overplay this thing. Now it's like everyone's like, it's bullying. And like,

Victoria is awful. Okay, she's an awful human, but I fucking think she's hilarious. It got less and more, right? At the beginning, it was like,

why is she being so bitchy? Again, I'm not pro bullying. I'm not saying it's okay to make anybody feel bad to, you know say negative things about anyone like you said to affect their livelihood i do think though that there is a side where you know calling her a bully and and it listen it was out of a movie they were like both walking on that taking a walk at nemo colin which looked so nice i was like i don't

be taking a walk in a brisk fall day i know and she was like what is she like it was literally kind of like so staged i feel like victoria is getting so egged on by producers obviously Matt doesn't give two sheds about Victoria. He was never into her for two fucking seconds. He's giving her a hug like I would give my grandpa. Like he never was into her sexually or otherwise. And she came on as she was a extra on a million dollar listing episode for an $11 million dollar house, which we know Queen Victoria can't afford.

She, but she is, I agree. She's so funny. And clearly she was brought on to be the. this, like, villain character that they probably, like, couldn't find or, like, wanted someone to be a little extra. But, I mean, I guess you're right in the sense that, like, it, there is, they, the girls are always mean, but it just feels like they are, like, really ganging up on each other and especially the new girls, but the new girls are also taking it to a whole other level.

And this whole Gisena, who I didn't know who she was before this episode, an MJ, um, drama, like varsity versus jv i honestly like who gives a shit like i do this like this is i i i watch and i i recap and i swear when i say i wasn't listening to that drama i have no idea what you're talking about because i don't care they they showed mj say like once like this is like varsity versus jv now and like and then she went to matt and cried about it that to me is like so And then they had to bring them on a one, a two on one. Like they wanted to make like this thing a two on one to make it dramatic. So now one of them goes home because of this drama.

But it's so, it's so stupid. And then like she tells her like, this is going to air and you'll see the truth. Like what the truth that she says, varsity versus JV. Like that's that's the T. Like who gives a shit? So did they change producers? Like, and then they did the dupe to be continued. like as if we care as if we care. And it drives me fucking nuts. It's like don't fucking put that dramatic music until we're at the final four because I don't care about any of these people, nor does Matt, nor does the rest of the audience at home. So don't put the dramatic music. Don't to be continued us about MJ and Dysenia. I mean, justenia. Don't fucking don't do that. You know what I mean? Like we don't care about them yet. You know what I'm saying? So,

It does feel that all this drama is so contrived, either by producers or by these girls knowing that if you go to mad and you cry about something, you'll get air time. Yeah, exactly. And this is all happening after we had Sarah, I came for the right reasons, Trot, who is the last time I'm going to let anybody dupe me because flashback and you guys could find it in my highlights if it didn't disappear yet. I was like, here's a real one. She's so genuine. She's a journalist. Like, finally someone real. Then as we know, it unfolds. And this bitch is the fakes bitch. I'm sorry, that sounded hardcore. She, what I don't like is her dad has ALS, which is such an awful disease. And she came in and claimed to be his primary caretaker, which would be somebody that lives and serves as his primary caretaker. She lives in L.A. She's trying to make it as a model. Her dad lives, I think,

in San Diego. She's very open about trying to make it as a model. If you go on her TikTok and she shows you a legit tutorial about how to make it as a model in L.A. Again, appreciate the hustle, but not on my back. Not on my time. You know, not on me at home trying to find time with a baby to watch and recap the bachelor. And you're crying about all this shit where you're not your dad's primary. And Lauren Zima did an interview with her after she was. went home and went in and I told Lauren Zima was like listen I loved it she got a lot of flack for it but basically she was like kind of kind of asking her the tough questions like okay you're crying about being away from your family but didn't you know like the bachelor could be a while

and she was like yeah but I thought I'd be able to talk to them on the phone Lauren Zama was like why'd you think why'd you think you would have a phone so even those small things kind of show like not that you can't in some world feel that way, right? Come on knowing that you can't talk to your family, knowing you'll be away, but also getting homesickness. But it all with her, it's like one thing and another thing. It's like saying you're the primary caretaker, us kind of understanding that that's not the case, putting yourself as a broadcast journalist, whereas you're actually really trying to make it as a model. And now she's popping up on ads like so many different things that she's like kind of modeling catalog modeling for she just popped up on like a

Botox thing she's 24 you know how much I love that so she proved to be a real fake like a real fake and not to say that she's a bad person not to say she's an evil person just to say she was not there for the right reasons I feel like almost nobody is and I can't trust anybody so back to Rachel Rachel who's saying she's in love with Matt Rachel who's saying she's never owned shoes that are over $40. Rachel's saying she can't believe someone like Matt would even look at her when she's the gorgeousest person ever. It's so not believable.

Actually, like, she can feel however she wants to feel. She's sitting next to a YSL bag as she's saying she like doesn't have a pair of $40 shoes. She, there is just no way. And like you put up, she wore a 600. $100 dress, of course, like, we don't know if that's actually hers, if it's one of the contestants, but let's say it is hers. Like, none of it makes sense. But I actually have a question because I'm thinking about it. Like, do you think Matt is really into, like, really, really into anybody? Like, do you see the connection that we sometimes, like, see, like, already at this stage? Like, I don't, I don't know. It feels like he's almost into everyone. There's not one person that, like, really stands out for me. wasn't it funny when they were at the farm thing and he had to go off and kiss that what's her name there's so many that's the other thing there's so many women and then they brought on more women where like we can't and then they're bringing Heather and you're like back like what are they

trying to do here like they're so maybe they maybe the the last season didn't do so well like I don't understand he does seem very smitten by Rachel because she's She's, she, she's doing, if she read like a book about, like, how to get the lead to fall in love with you, which is be gorgeous, but also you don't know it. How to get America to fall in love with you. I'm saying. Yeah, but she can't because she also has people saying that she's racist and all these things. So it's not working. If not, then the story would be different.

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Like she's not used to this. But isn't it so cute? It's so cute. Of course. I'm, I'm, I'm all for Rachel. Like, I'm smitten. I would fall in love with her. Like, if I was Matt, it's so cute.

But, like, she's really doing all the, all of the things. All of the things that make somebody fall in love with you. What is cuter to be, like, high maintenance? I can afford a gazillion designer bags and I know I'm hot or, hmm, I'm so insecure. And I, this is the first time I'm, seeing anything that's worth more than a dollar. So it's like she read a playbook and she knows exactly what she's doing to get the lead. But she does. She has like a sparkle in her eye. She legit sparkles. I don't know how this woman sparkles. But again, I don't see the

connection. I don't see. Remember how I told when we talked about Clarendale? I was like, listen, for her to blow up the show, I should have been seeing fireworks. I should have been seeing two people that like are so obsessed with each other. The same thing here. Like if she's saying, She found her husband, Rachel, and she's never felt this way, and she's in love and blah, blah, blah. You should kind of, you should feel it through the screen. Do you get what I'm saying? And we don't. This is a person that's watched all of The Bachelors that knows exactly what they say on the show that is, it's all pretend.

It's a game of pretend. And it's one thing to say it. And it's another thing to see it. And I'm sure with cameras, it's awkward and you can't really. But you also can't say all of these things. like you can't wait for this to be over. You can't wait to start a family and for him to be the husband

and to just go home with him. Like that doesn't happen from one one on one. Like I'm sorry, what? Like all of these people, I'm sure it's really hard to spend time with Matt and I'm sure they, I read even an interview once that like, even like the person that wins,

the amount that you spend with the lead is not a lot. Like it's a few hours in total. Like you're not spending so much time with them throughout the entire show. And so like you cannot say that after you just finished your first one-on-one. Yeah. When did you have time to fall in love with him, watching him go on like a hot air balloon

with like the other girl who I don't know her name? Like, when did all of this happen? Because it doesn't make sense. And that's why it's not believable. Like if I saw her express normal feelings, then I would be like, I'm into the show. Like, I mean, I'm into the show, of course. But you know what I mean? It is divisive because I don't know if the word is good here, but I just want

to use it. If someone comes on the show like Kelly, pilot Pete's Kelly, do you remember she came on the show and she was like, I don't know I came on because Peter's cool and like we get to travel that's fun. They're like, oh, so you want to spend time with Peter? She's like,

yeah, sure and like travel. Do you remember and we were like, um, Kelly, you don't get the show? So if someone comes on like that which like we would be into because she was honest, but it doesn't work for the show. You know what I mean?

And if Kelly, if Peter didn't hook up with Kelly after the show, she wouldn't have gotten big on Instagram. She wouldn't have gotten attention because she wasn't good at the show. Anyway, Victoria, yeah, sorry. I have to, I have to relate it back to something. Like, remember what Colton season, which was like also a snooze fest? But when you actually started seeing how obsessed he was with Cassie is when it got interesting. It's when you actually saw real feelings when he was like jumping the

fence like that shit was fucking real like he was so upset he was obsessed with cassie he went after her like those things are real when we saw ari and beka break up that shit was real like you saw real emotions there that was all real when he went to like lauren uh Lauren what Lauren L Lauren whatever his wife when he went to his wife now like those things are real and those things are much more interesting than like having the same the girls every single girl say she's starting to fall in love with them at the same exact time over dinner that they're not eating like at nemocolon I don't know it's just not not maybe the show doesn't work in remote times and like quarantine times maybe yeah they need I don't know why they thought again bringing on just

more girls and it's just it's just a lot I needed to kind of move move and then we have the bachelorette already kind of been confirmed that they're set to film in Canada this resort in Canada was rented out for like a few months, which is interesting to bring a bunch of Americans with COVID going on to Canada. But anyway, really quickly, I just want to finish up by Victoria leaving. Obviously, it was obvious to me from the first, the beginning of the episode where Matt was like, you're bullying everyone and you're toxic. She's like, me, the joy of the world of positivity and a raise of sunshine in a good person

and sweet and kind and such a good friend. And, like, even when she's so awful, like, she's comical. Like, the fact that she, when she left and she literally said the joy, like, everyone's going to be so upset to see me go, like, no one is going to be happy. Like, I am the joy of the house. It's so bad. It's so funny. Like, it's bad that it's so funny.

She was like, I never want to even say the name Matt. Like, she is comedy. Like, she's comedy. I will forever have in my. mind the scene of Sarah, I put this up on my feet. It was so good. The scene of Sarah coming to talk to the girls before she left and saying like, for those of you who got to know me, she's like, no one knows you. Like legit in that voice, you guys. And Sarah's like, I guess you could tell I'm a good person. We don't, we can't tell. And she's like, and she's like from the people I

talk to in Victoria, it's like, who talked to her? No one. Like she is, she has comedic. gold timing but you know what is going to bite all these girls in the ass is that you know they came for one thing and they're not all going to get it because of this lame season I don't feel like anyone's going to be like at millions of followers do you get what I'm saying I disagree I think they can get there you think yeah yeah I of course it's the bachelor the whole I mean I love I feel like you're going to say like I love when Ariel thinks things okay but I think that they can get there. Like, it's the Bachelor.

The whole world is watched. I feel like. Yeah. I feel like. Yeah. The whole world is watching. We're all in quarantine. Like, people get really invested in the Bachelor.

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slash not skinny, like I said, 25% off when you keep everything in your fix. Okay, just a couple more things about the franchise that went on this week is Dylan Barber, who I love and like with his stupid loafers and like three quarter pants and whatever, he's actually a vibe. If you guys haven't listened to my podcast, then listen, he is nothing like I thought he was. he's kind of really cynical about all about your nation and he kind of showed like little inklings of it on my podcast but he went real savage on Twitter this week being like I'm going to

answer questions even though it was like real savage but it was also like Dylan you didn't say anything like so groundbreaking because he basically said like everything is producers like shit like that um gave kind of a behind the scenes look he what else did he say oh and then the big thing he was asked like who got most fucked over by producers and he said jed from his season which was the hannah brown season and they were like why did jed not are you saying jed not didn't cheat on hannah and he said yes and that was like the big like dorodum other things he said didn't really shock me like who gets who picks the one-on-one dates and he was like producers like i didn't actually think matt was like scribbling today we're going to see where the wind blows us like i i know it wasn't

thinking that anyway yeah the jay thing was kind of the big thing. Also, Dylan, love you mean it, but you ended up with Hannah, the girl of your dreams through this franchise. So it's kind of like, I feel like the people that should be bitter or maybe the people that actually got screwed. Do you get what I'm saying? No, I get it. But I think he is, I don't think Dylan is into the show. So he's like upset by what he's seen happen on the show. So even though it worked out for him, he really did meet the love of his life on the show he hates the way like the show handles like the producers handled situations and like do everything to just get good TV and don't care about listen it's just like

what came out about Tyra it's like kind of the same it's like they she didn't actually care about anybody and that they're saying like the producers don't give a shit they only give a shit about making good TV and they don't care about the humans that are like going through this process Which like, like I had an episode with Blake, Blake Horsman. He actually got fucked. Like his world was ruined. He was suicidal, he said on my podcast. Okay.

Like, and the difference between Dylan and Blake, I feel like, is Dylan doesn't care about burning bridges. He doesn't want to make Bachelor cameos for five minutes. He wants his startup business to succeed, which like, yeah, he should admit that maybe he did get kind of a platform for himself because of the show. But he doesn't care to burn. Bridges with Chris Harrison with ABC with the bachelor. Blake, I feel like got so burned, like literally life ruined, okay, because of the Bachelor, Bachelor in Paradise, Kaelin,

that whole situation and producers who egged this whole thing on and made him seem like such a terrible person. But I feel like Blake wants to hold on to that connection to maybe do a cameo, to maybe come back, you know what I mean? He doesn't want to burn, which I don't, I don't judge him for that. Like I, I wouldn't want to burn that bridge. But, but maybe I would if I was so deeply hurt. That's what I'm saying is the difference in them both. Listen to those episodes if you haven't. So anyway, Dylan, since then, deleted the Twitter tweets. Deleted the Twitter. This is how old I am. Deleted the tweets. Maybe it was Lori KPR, who I love, who made him do it. But he deleted those tweets. And Jed loved every fucking second of it, probably. He felt exonerated.

and posted a... I'm very excited to announce and I tell a podcast that nobody cares about will be coming out. Since then, people are actually interested to hear what he has to say

because what Dylan said doesn't really make sense because if you remember, it came out that he had a girlfriend coming on the show. It's not about him cheating. Him cheating was after she picked him. But him coming on the show

with a girlfriend for his dog jingled career was before. Did you just say Nakhon? Oh my God. Yes, I did. And she wonders why she's out of a podcast hosting job. She said Nakhon in Hebrew, you guys, our second language. I really did. I was really into what you were saying. So like it just came out even though like my English is so much better than my Hebrew. So I don't know like how that worked out in my brain. Yeah. What I wanted to say though is that I don't know, maybe Jed and Dylan are

best friends and this was all done to like get listeners for Jed's podcast. If Dylan is best friends with Jed that I'm taking back the fact that I like Dylan and I need to ask him. Actually, I'm going to ask him. Maybe ask him for friends. So and yeah, I'm not going to like promote the shed of Jed's new podcast. But like I said, what Dylan said was Jed didn't cheat on Hannah, but we hate Jed before he cheated on Hannah after she chose him.

There was a whole drama. we hate Jed because of his reasons for coming on the show and he came on the show with the girlfriend. And I think the girlfriend like went on reality see podcast or something like that. You guys can check it out and admitted that was true. So again, the cheating after, which was the iffy part. Do you remember when she confronted him the same way Becca confronted Ari? So that part was iffy anyway.

We didn't really get it. Do you remember she was like, and then you were partying? And so we hate him from before Jed. So not sure that you can make a conversation. back from that. Other things just about Bachelnation, sometimes we have so much about Bachelnation. Ben Higgins is coming out with a book, which I literally posted that people are dying because he looks like it's a murder mystery and he's the abducted child that got murdered. I don't know. I don't get the cover of the book. What is it called?

No, you guys, it's called Ben Higgins, alone in plain sight. It also sounds like a murder mystery. Searching for connection. Searching for connection when you're seen but not known. I feel like Ben is on the down low, a big weirdo. I feel like it everyone's coming out with the book. So he wrote a fucking book about his life. Like that's all I feel like it is.

And he's trying to make it really like spiritual or like I'm, I don't even fucking know. Well, he's with a woman right now that is saving herself for marriage. And I think they're not living together before marriage. So, yeah, he's a different kind of vibe. The girl he chose Lauren Bushnell. Now Lauren Lane is pregnant. And another thing we have going on is Lauren and Ari, which I feel like are the most fucking legit couple in Batchar Nation because they're actually married and have kids from the last recent years at least. They're having twins after she had a really hard time getting pregnant. Then she naturally got pregnant with twins. Is that the story? Yeah, she naturally got pregnant with twins. Isn't that crazy? Which happened to our sister and is fucking amazing, but also petrifying. Also, boy and girl. I honestly think, like, I'd be D with twins. I really would.

I'd be D. Like, it's like, you know, killing two birds with one stone. Like, why not? Yeah. Bring it on. I don't know. I think when you have one baby already, it's maybe you're, I don't know, it's still, whatever you want to say, it's a blessing, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

It's like the hard. I got messages from people about my sister, about our sister, Allison, when I put up that she's pregnant with twins. People were like, oh, my God, twins are so great. The first five years are really hard. Like the first five years. Like, can you deal? I mean, every day is hard.

As I see like you and Allison, like every day, it is really a full time job. It's hard. It's, you have to like entertain a small little being all day long, 24 seven. And it is hard. But again, like I said, like, yes, in the first five years until they're five and they're more independent, I can totally see as being so hard. But then, like, you already have, like, a bigger family and you were pregnant once. Like, I just feel like it does, like, work itself out.

They're pros, they're cons. But it is a blessing. It's definitely the two birds of the ones. But, yeah, that was really exciting about my, our sister, Allison, the twins, literally it was like in a movie. She went to the doctor's appointment when she found out she was pregnant. to get it confirmed and they were like oh my god they're two heartbeats like legit you guys out of a movie and the way the ultrasound looks for twins is just the wildest thing because you just see like

your uterus into with a line in the middle it is the wildest thing i've ever seen in my life a few other interesting things from this week that aren't bachelor related is of course we kind of got a confirmation that court and travis barker are together And aside from him commenting things on all of her photos and her commenting back on all of his photos. It's so cute. Wait, how did we get it confirmed? Because everybody, I mean, there were people that I think on Des Mois like that they were FaceTiming and they were like together.

And and then like you can tell. Excuse me. That was on my thing. One of my, you know, do that remember somebody literally? She, someone really legit, DM'd me and she was, she's a verified account. Her good friend is really close with Travis Barker. She even sent me like a picture of her kids with Travis Barker to show me that she's like connected and it's legit.

And she said that they were making out in the face time. And also the comments are very like indicative. Like he's, she just put up like a, you know, another thirst draft from this week because they just went on yet another vacation. And she was like, say, I keep posting hot picks. And he wrote yes. And she comments with hearts and his photos. And I just really need a photo of them together to make me happy.

It's going to come. But also he was at the Palm Springs house and he took a picture of it. That was it. That was it. That was it. Yeah. The day. So after the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the.

got. There was a day where Courtney was at the Palm, Chris's Palm Springs house. She posted like the sunset from there and he posted something. So it's like really legit and it makes my heart warm because as much as we love Scort, Scott is a fuck up and Scott is with a 19 year old currently and he doesn't deserve the queen. And Travis is the cutest man. He is soft spoken. He is gentle. He's a good father. He's a good father to his own kids. He's a good father to his. stepdaughter, Atiana, who is the daughter of Shannon Mochler and her ex-husband. And that just says a lot about your character.

I also used to watch Meet the Barkers on MTV, I think with my mom, which is so funny. And I remember just thinking, what a good husband he was then. Shannon Mochler was, like, sleeping all the time and he was doing everything. So, I mean, let's not look at exteriors. He has a lot of tattoos. That doesn't mean that he's a gentle fucking. soul and they've been friends for years and they've been neighbors for years and he's known

the family for years. And I just feel like it could be a really good thing. It's someone her age. It's not an 18 year old, you know, whatever. I just feel like I really need this to come out and I need it to be a fish. Meanwhile, we have single Kim in what seems like live in life. Divorced Kim is a vibe. Like that's all I have to say. She's a vibe. She's looking on fwags. Like I don't understand. She has thousands of abs. She looks so good. She has thousands of abs. She is, I think, living her best life. And I think, honestly, like, she's never been that public about her relationship with Kanye

ever, not even on the show. He was rarely ever on the show. He was rarely ever talked about. And I think, like, when you think about it, like, they are two different, completely different people. And he probably has some shit he needs to work out and work through. And I'm into single Kim. I'm into it. I love it.

And I think she's a vibe. I think there's a lot more than we will ever know about their relationship. Like, you know, he did have several mental breakdowns in last few years, which he then spoke out against her on like Twitter. But she's always said behind them, listen, the Kardashians, you know, they won't fucking betray you. That's something. They will, the car jeners will not betray you.

Even fucking Lamar Odom, who cheated on Chloe with, you know, in a brothel and OD, like, they got yo back like think about it they got yo back no matter what once you're in you're in and they're a loyal so we don't know how long their relationship has not been like typical man and wife like he was in wyoming for a really long time so listen do i think they're keeping it for the last season of the Kardashians probably we also saw uh the trailer for that which i cried like i just got goosebumps no um people are all all like no man over they're going to hulu and i'm like you guys listen the hulu announcement said they will be producing content they will be creating content for hulu in 2021 or whatever the

fuck does that mean keeping up with the k Kardashians no could it mean like kendall is you know producing you know a cooking show for some like i don't know what it will be but it it doesn't mean it's going to be keeping up and listen their instagrams are good, but they're not enough for me. I need to see they're a show almost in forever. And Chris crying and Kim crying and stupid Kylie, like being a robot, being like, the memories. We made memory. She's a robot.

It's awful. But Kendall is pissing me off too lately, honestly. She's like with extension. She's not old Kenny. She's not. I think that like when you're in this world for so long at one point, like at some point it's going to get you. Like she's going to, she turned over to the dark side.

it got her. She's been sucked in to extensions and nails and like not being natural Kenny. And it got her. Yeah. It got her. No, for sure. It got her. We have Kristen Cavaleri, not like that interesting. I feel like Kristen Cavaleri knows how to work, social media in her favor. Aside from the, you know, the Instagram lives with Craig and Austin. She then posted the standing united photo with j cutler like kind of speaking out against madison who was kind of mom shaming her whatever if you guys don't know about the story then do your own deep dives but now she posted an uncommon james kind of like valentine's day card and she wrote like dear and the letter j and it was kind of like bringing me tequila and not chocolates kind of like a

promotional thing for uncommon james like obviously four year valentine and she wrote the letter Jay, obviously having everyone spent, is it Jeff Dye, her rumored boyfriend, but then people article actually confirmed they were broken up? Or is it J? Because they had that united front picture, but we don't know if it was like romantic or just like us as co-parents. So, but Jeff Dye then posted the same uncommon Jane's thing with a K. So obviously it was him. Obviously they're together. And I feel like she is kind of using social media and the interest and all of this to her advantage because I feel like the next day after the United Front thing, she dropped like a new line of like Uncommon James, which is genius on her part, honestly.

All publicity is good publicity. And I think that there is a reason that that picture came the day before. It's not like that line being dropped wasn't planned. She probably was like, this is going to get people to like be more interested in the line. So I'm going to drop a picture. And like this is literally being a genius. It's being a social media marketing genius and she knows what she's doing and I'm all like I I think that like her putting up a picture with Jay like she's just like I don't give a fuck like

she doesn't care about what's being spoken about her and she's going to show whoever is talking shit like what she's all about. Listen you guys, Madison, I'm scared of her a little bit because she did come into my DMs and ask me if I'm like calling her messy, which I wasn't. calling her messy. I was calling her other things, but not messy. She is really milking the last second, every last moment of this shit. She is

loving it. She went up like 100,000 followers from this A-Rod drama. Again, we can't spend time deep diving into it. I did want to talk about it. We ended up talking about The Bachelor for long. It does seem like it's A-Rod. It does seem like, if you guys don't know what I'm talking about, Southern Charm Reunion, Craig brought up that Madison was hanging out, cheating, talking to, he said married men, but I feel like Craig doesn't know probably

that J-Lo and A-Rod aren't married yet or didn't know at the time. But Danny from Southern Turn went on Kate Casey's podcast, pretty much confirming it is A-Rod that Madison was face-timing with him. Also, she didn't deny it, whereas rumors about another man came about with Madison. Eric Decker who's married to Jesse James Decker and Madison shot that rumor down was like, no, that's not true. So if A-Rod wasn't true when she shut down A-Rod, also A-Rod

and Madison were following each other. Also, A-Rod liked a bunch of her photos. Also, deep-diving into A-Rod, he likes a lot of young girls' photos and follows a lot of young girls. Also, A-Rod, now that I know that, seems really creepy to me. Also, he just put up

like a shrine video to J-Lo. So that's awkward timing. I hope she drops his ass. Like, I hope she drops his ass. Even for just liking Madison LaCroix photos. He needs to be dropped. He needs to be dropped. You posted, like, who he's following.

He's following, like, Kylie's assistant. No? Like, he's following every fucking one. No, we said he would be following Kylie's assistant. I don't think he's actually following her. But he needs to be dropped. J-Lo is a goddamn queen. and like he needs to be dropped.

Yeah, these women cannot be forgiving these cheating fucking men anymore. Obviously, we have the army situation going on. But, you know, Elizabeth Chambers dropped him when she found out of his cheating. That's why they got divorced and only later did all the allegations about him taking the S&M and BDSM to the next level and doing non-consensual stuff.

Anyway, you guys, there's so much happening right now, 2021, off to a fucking crazy start. I need a daily podcast to just cover what's going on. And that's, it's just wild. It's just wild. Anyway, Ariel, thank you for joining me today in talking about the shit we love to talk about the most. And, you know, honestly, we all need this escapism right now.

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