Not Skinny But Not Fat - Chrishell Stause on Marriage & Selling Sunset Drama
Episode Date: June 13, 2023Selling Sunset season 6 was a whirlwind and one of the best IMO! Chrishell Stause is here to dive into it all- Including what went down with Nicole, where she stands with Mary and what the he...ll happened with Amanza since the season ended? She also gushes over G, shares details of their wedding, and why she decided to announce it to the public. This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode. Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Hello, my love.
How are you?
I'm good.
You look so pretty.
Oh, thank you.
Who's the mad dash to?
Well, it's, I was like, I can't remember if this, like, goes anywhere or not.
Well, like, you know, like clips.
The social part.
Yeah, the social part.
but you look so good.
I always wonder what that neon light says
because it's always in your background.
Yeah, it says, yeah, welcome to the madhouse.
Welcome to the madhouse.
Do you need my house?
It was a show, Tones and I did.
That's actually the, I was helping her look for a house,
the singer Tones and I.
And that's the show that I actually met G.
But she gave it to me as a house more than present.
Oh, that's so cool.
Yeah.
And like, it brings in like a different.
vibe to your house, you know? Yeah. And I like it just because it's, you know, started as a client,
now a friend and then like, you know, little did I know who I'd be meeting. Wait, tell me about that.
So Tones and I, she was performing a show in L.A. that night. And I'd been helping her look for a house.
And so she was performing. And when I got there, I was saying hi and everything. And she introduced me to
G, who was opening for the show that night. So it was just like, hi, who are you? And I was just like,
Hi, how are you? And so it was a casual meeting. I mean, honestly, we didn't even really connect
as friends until way later. But it's just funny that, you know, we met that night. It was like a
Halloween costume party kind of thing. And so, yeah, so that that's actually the first time we met.
And then they lived in Australia then and then months later kind of reached out saying,
I'm going to be moving to LA. I don't know anyone, you know, can you introduce me to some people?
And I was like, sure, yeah, come on. I'll help you. I'll introduce me. She was moving to
L.A. and reached out to you to kind of meet people. I didn't know that. Yeah, yeah. So we,
because we'd met through, you know, mutual friend. Yeah. And they didn't really know anyone here in
L.A. So they were just, you know, we kind of followed each other on Instagram. So it was every
once in a while we would like say something that somebody would post. But yeah. So when they,
I think they were moving out here in January, February of 2022. And just kind of said, like, if you have
any friends like I don't know anybody and I was like yeah of course so that's so crazy so then when did
the music video happen the music video I think we shot it in like March I think yeah so after they moved
we're ready here hanging out but nothing was happening at that point they moved here I think and then
we did we kind of like I saw them to show them a place that they were looking for because the agent
wasn't answering their phone call so I was like I got this so it all started like that and then we did
the music video. So everyone, I don't know how that happened. People said we met on the music video
set. That's not true. Oh, but was it to the music video, it's for the song, what's the song called?
Get me out of here. Get me out of here. Because for some reason, gay for me is stuck in my head,
so I can't remember any other song right now. I love that. And what's the new song called when you
cried in the car? Oh, I love that one so much. Okay, so the music video, so you became kind of friends at that
point and they were like, oh, be in my music video. Yeah. I mean, we, so we've been friends and then I kind of,
we talked about that and we got really excited about the video and what it could be and everything
like that. And then things started like that way, you know, exciting and talking through. And then
that's really kind of how things got started so that by the time the video happened, it was like,
oh, what is going on here? There was just so much chemistry and everything. So yeah, but it is,
I do try and always correct this. I don't know.
it's like some person took that the wrong way if something was said and then it went everywhere.
We didn't meet on the music video set at all.
We've been saying this from the beginning.
You know, I met G through Tones, who was a client, but.
It would be so random if that's how you met, you know?
Like, it would be even randomer if they were like, hey, Crichelle, like randomly or you just decided
one day to be like a video, a video, babe.
And you're so cute because I remember when the video came out and they were,
were kind of mixed mixed reviews about it and you took it so lightly you were like listen say
what you want to say i had fun like you know it's very sexy some people took it a little bit more
to the cheesy way some people were obsessed with it but you i remember you always have a way of
taking things lightly where you were like i don't care i don't care if you think it's like over
the top or you know yeah people really lost their minds about it and the funny thing is is that
there's so many times things like that happen because there have been quite a few at this
where, I mean, it's funny to me.
So I'm having a laugh about how,
because I can't imagine anything in pop culture happening
where it's going to ruin my day
or I'm going to have a meltdown over something I don't agree with.
I just, I'll laugh about it or I'll be like, oh, my God.
You know, but the way people fully have meltdowns,
it's very funny to me.
So when that video came out, you know, yeah,
I was unaware of how insane people would get.
But there is an element of, you know,
entertaining how crazy people are.
You think like a lot of your fans were like disappointed or something?
Oh my gosh.
I mean, when that came out, it was a firestorm of just, you know, I think it was a mix of obviously
you're always going to get the normal homophobia that happens.
But on top of that, you had a lot of people that were angry because they really felt like,
you know, they follow along with this journey with, you know, with Jason and everything and like,
well, to be honest with you, you only get a little piece of it.
it on Selling Sunset, you know? And so the piece that they had been given was that, you know,
we were wanting to have a kid and then that, you know, then we broke up because, you know,
that wasn't happening. And now I think that season six has come out. You've seen more of the
full story where it's like you're getting these little snippets, you know, and it wasn't as
if I ran off and I'm, you know, decided to just completely change my mind and Jason's over here
crying. Like that is not at all what happened. And I very much going to plan.
on having children when I'm ready, but now there's no timeline on that. So I think that was
another part that people were really upset about, you know, I've said this many times, but
the partner I was with only wanted biological kids if that and wasn't even sure if that
would ever be something he wanted. And now obviously that's something that is going to be
a lot to figure out when you're at my age. Well, I can't sit around and wait for someone. And
if you decide that, you want it to be, you know, so it was just kind of an understanding
that, okay, if that's what you're saying, you understand what that means. And then with love,
we decided that this wasn't right for the two of us. It wasn't like anybody broke somebody's heart
or somebody was the bad guy. It was just two adults realizing this isn't the best fit. And now I think
people see that we really want each other to be happy, like 100%. Like there is like no bad blood. We
root each other on. And I think now time has passed and people are a little more understanding. But in
the beginning that video came out. I mean, I get it. People, you know, they were just very,
very angry at it all. And yeah, I just, at some point, I remember now, you have fun and live my life.
And time sometimes will tell. Same thing with like, you know, the wedding and stuff like that.
Like, I know what my life is going to be. I know what I'm planning on doing. Everybody doesn't
have to be in on every single thing all the time. Like, with time, people will see. And that's
fine with me. With the Jason thing, I remember now, because when it came out, the you and G
were together, the like uproar or the, you know, people trying to figure it out, like you said,
homophobia aside was like, wait, but G is, you know, 27 or 28. And, you know, if Jason didn't
want kids, who said that they would want kids and people were assuming because of their age that,
you know, how is that different than the Jason? So now I'm remembering that's what it was.
But then how would people actually know what they want, what you've discussed?
and you said on the show towards the end of the season that you've spoken about it
and that you're thinking of the adoption route, like when you're ready for that.
Yeah, I mean, obviously I think you see on the show, like,
I'm not entering into any relationship without having very open, honest conversations.
I very openly will tell you I don't say it on, you know,
I don't openly go on interviews all the time and I don't openly talk about it on
selling sunset all the time.
But I think you've seen enough on the show to know,
I'm not entering into any relationship without fully being transparent and having these
conversations. And so, yeah, we've had all of those conversations. And I'm very happy about
where we are with it. I'm super, you know, it's a fit. Like we fit each other. And what we want in
life is exactly, you know, I found my person. And so I feel like I get it. Some people aren't
going to agree or whatever. But that's just part of being in the spotlight. I guess people
give their opinions where it's like, I really don't care.
but I appreciate you watching the show, I guess.
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It makes me like emotional to see both of you together and even them on the show like come across
so genuine. Like you can just see it. You know, like you don't even need to have that.
them throughout the whole show and there weren't many scenes. But in the scenes we got, you just see how
genuine, how sweet, how kind. I feel like that really even came across to me before because I shipped
from the motherfucking beginning. I love you for that, by the way. So sweet. I know. I followed
immediately. I was like, yes. Yes. I love it. Wait, do you call them G at home too? Yeah. It's G.
Because I looked it up. I was like, wait, what's G's actual name? And it's Georgia.
Yeah. So their full name is Georgia Flippo. And so.
So as a kid, you know, they always call it like G's dad is Mr. Flip.
Like that was the nickname.
And so, and G obviously didn't feel comfortable with the name Georgia.
You know, obviously that's just something they don't.
Just the same with, you know, my first name is Tarina.
I changed it.
You know, everyone's allowed to, you know, change your name for what they're comfortable with.
And so I feel like.
Like Raquel and Rachel.
Yes, exactly.
So G, from a very, very young age, always just went by, you know, it was Mr. Flip.
And then it was G Flip.
So it was just kind of like one of those things that, you know, it wasn't even a name to be cool.
It's like a childhood nickname.
And yeah, they just don't identify with their full name, you know.
As you know, they're non-binary and I feel like they really feel like they're half, you know, just like a mix of, you know, femininity, masculinity and Georgia is a very feminine name.
I loved how you took on kind of the role.
Probably you didn't even know what you were getting into, but of kind of being like an advocate or.
just kind of like a voice and and I think G said this to you too on the on the show. I'm not sure
if it was on the show or on your Instagram or something, but like you really, you know,
spoke up for for for non-binary for, you know, people just that are different and that choose a
different life, different relationship. And you do it in such a way that's so conversational and so
not preachy. And I feel like you know that you're talking to a very wide audience as you,
as we all know, selling sunset is on Netflix, everyone around the world, right?
It's fucking global, like my friends from Israel, watch it.
Like, it's all over, right?
So you know you're talking to, like, not just people in New York.
You're talking to people all over the world that don't know that haven't come across.
And I really want to, like, applaud you.
You do such a good job.
And I feel like it's so important.
And you probably never thought that you would be in that specific position of.
I definitely didn't.
It's funny.
I think that life, you know, that's just like another one of those things that maybe, you know,
we think maybe it was meant to be because I am given this platform and definitely I didn't
foresee any of this in a billion years that I would be having these conversations and talking about
these types of things. You know, it just is a very simple thing. I fell in love with the person and now
it has a bigger purpose where, you know, I understand I think that a lot of people are annoyed by
certain things because it's just a lot of noise. But sometimes when you really just like break it down,
you know, you just really look at it, you know, imagine the UPS guy came, but you don't know who came.
The UPS person came and you're trying to tell someone that they came.
You'd be like, oh, they came earlier.
But it's not like you know if it was a man or a woman.
You're just saying, oh, they came.
They came earlier.
They dropped off the package.
So it's just like one of those things.
I think it feels more radical because it's, you know, a topic of conversation that's new again.
But it's honestly something that's, you know, this is an old topic.
So, yeah, I just think that, you know, gee, I see.
they take a lot of hate and it's to someone that's normal like you you probably would be surprised
to know that you why why would somebody get that upset about something you know that just makes
them feel comfortable about how they feel but you know that's the one thing that is a downfall of
you know being with me is that you know yes there's a lot of upside but there's a lot of there's a lot
of things that you know you're introducing into someone's life at a level that they're just not
even used to and luckily they're such a genuine kind person that they understand that that is
you know you're gonna it's gonna take some of the rough part to get to the other side of it but yeah
I just think that if people can just understand you're talking to a human being that is like somebody
that would if you were hurt they would be the first person to stop and help you G would take the shirt
off their back for anybody and so it just like yeah I get very frustrated just because it's just
like, you know, they're so much far better, a way better person than me. And there have been many
times where, you know, I'll get so protective and want to, you know, and they'll remind me,
you know, it's not important. Let's just, you know, keep. So I appreciate you saying that. I do try and,
you know, understand it's a bigger audience. The only time I do start to get a little upset is when I see
that it's affecting my person who is just so gentle and caring. Yeah, right, because you're exposing
them to like so many people, which can be a positive thing, but it's also can bring upon some
eight. And you have like really thick skin. I mean, you've been through so much publicly that
you like laugh about it all. But I have to ask about the, you're married. Congratulations.
Right? Like, hello. Thank you. That was such a boop. You know what I say, you know when I say
boop about things, Chris. Like something's like, boop, we're married. Like, oh, just going to like, like,
influence or say, just going to drop, just going to put this here, just going to, just going to leave
this here. That was such a boop moment. Did you plan the way that you kind of announced it? How or were
you thinking of announcing it like a more, you know, collab post were married? Like how, what, what happened
there? You know, okay. So enough that time has passed where I'll feel like here's, here's how it
went down. We actually had done it a while ago. We didn't really ever plan on telling
anyone because we knew, you know, just like with anything, you're going to hear criticism on either
side. And this really was for us. It wasn't for anybody else. And so it wasn't even, I remember when
I started wearing a ring on that finger, people started asking. I said, no, that's not it. I just
wanted to be able to like, you know, live my life. And, you know, it was very important and everything we did
for us. But that being said, then I saw the selling sunset season six. And I personally felt like
it looked a little more like,
am I just like having midlife crisis
and I'm dating a rock star
and they're off living their life?
Or are we really in love?
Which I know that we are.
But I felt like there was a specific scene
that kind of showed that they ended up putting it online.
But it was just one of those things
where I felt like with our show,
a lot of times they want people to pick aside.
They don't want it to be clear
because I've seen this with, you know,
past people I've had arguments with.
They specifically leave out
really good information that would have helped the audience really make a sound choice,
but they don't want that. They want you to be able to try and like see both sides and not
be sure who to pick. Well, in my case with this, it was frustrating that, you know, I'm already,
I'm fine taking on the hate of it all, but I didn't want our relationship to be looked at as
the phase or my sexuality to be looked at it as like some, you know, publicity thing or something
like that. It just really kind of cheapened I felt like. So it was a,
mix of seeing the show and then realizing knowing what we are doing and what we are
planning and all that kind of stuff where it's like you know what i think we're fine taking the
criticism at this point so why not gee has a song coming out i'm always going to be the number one
supporter of g and whatever i can ever do to help their you know career if someone thinks that's cheesy
or if someone thinks that's like you are that's fine i want to help my partner like and so i realized
in that moment this is a way a beautiful way to tell our love story
it's right before the season comes out.
So regardless of what they left in, what they left out,
I'm taking back off my narrative.
This is my person.
This is my human being.
This isn't not changing.
You can either accept it or not accept it.
I don't care.
So that's kind of the reasoning and the timing of, yes, we decided right?
Because it was, you know, I saw the screeners and I had a certain type of,
I had an opinion about what was left out and what was left in.
You know, though, that I didn't get that vibe.
That's so interesting.
Like, I didn't, maybe because I so believe in you both, you know, that I would never go
in watching it thinking it's anything else than a love story.
But are you talking about a specific?
You said it was a scene that went online that made it seem cheaper?
Well, I think it's just because, you know, when you don't have any context, because we don't
put a lot on social media, you're judging it from what you see on the show.
And so I felt like it would be people watching and kind of.
of deciding what they felt. Oh, is she really in this relationship? Does she really care about
this person? Does that person really care about her? As opposed to, you know, if I was with a man,
you wouldn't be thinking that. Let's just be honest. And so in my opinion, it's a little bit more
delicate, you know, and I felt like because that was made my opening tagline about, you know,
am I having a midlife crisis or not? You know, to me, I laugh about that because it's like,
I've lived alive. So I really feel like if I'm at my happiest place and really feel like I've done
lots of there being gotten a lot of things figured out. If I'm now at that place of, you know,
putting really important things that I should have been putting first all along. If that's what
makes people think I'm crazy, then you know what, that's fine. It's entertaining then for someone
watching the show. And I guess I can just appreciate them watching. Was there a proposal or was it a decision
to kind of get married.
It was a decision, but then the proposal came after because we kind of forgot.
We decided to go do it.
And then on the way there, realized that there was no proposal.
We'd forgotten that step.
And so G. proposed on the plane as it was taking off.
Wait, was the wedding in Vegas?
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
So you got your Vegas rock star, Kravis wedding.
I did.
Yes.
You know what's so funny.
I have to tell you this.
The Elvis, because I watched that
Kravis special,
we had the same Elvis impersonator.
Did he know he were?
No idea.
Absolutely not.
It was great.
Because he called Courtney Chloe.
That's what was so funny in that special.
He's like,
do you take Chloe Kardashian?
This man,
he had no clue about anything.
Yeah.
That's so funny.
Well, I'm so happy for you.
And I'm so happy that, you know,
you decided to make it public knowledge because I get keeping it private, but I also think why
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not support? It looks like everyone's pretty supportive and loves G. But is there anyone that's not so
supportive? Yeah. I mean, everyone that I interact with and talk to is very supportive. I mean,
obviously, since, you know, the show wrapped, I haven't had any interaction with some. But I feel like all
the ones, you know, on social media, we're very active and everything. Everyone's like super
supportive. And like I said, I mean, I really feel like if anyone spent less than five minutes,
but gee, it's impossible not to not to love them. They're just such an infectious personality.
And so every single person has just been really supportive.
And that's nice.
I mean, even the people that people thought would not be supportive.
I mean, Jason is the biggest supporter of us.
Yeah.
And we are the exact same way for him.
You know, we're making sure that.
Chris.
Let's talk about your support for Jason.
Were you supportive of Mary.
What's her name?
Mary Lou?
You were not that supportive of Mary Lou.
Which is unlike you, but you made some like funny,
funny digs about it.
Okay, so you guys are going to have to watch season seven.
There's an element about this that I am not allowed to talk about that obviously I support
Jason and I want Jason to be happy.
But yes, there is an element that, you know, I kind of have to wait until you guys can
catch up to what I've already lived.
So listen, I, at the end of the day, though, whoever he decides the date, if he's happy about it,
great. It's just that when we're filming a show and it then affects our circle on camera and someone
starts to, you know, it just, it changes things. And so it became very interesting in season
seven. You will see that. Oh, we'll see. But now they're already publicly broken up. They made a
statement and everything. We, but we're good. Right after filming round. Yes.
Hmm. We can jump to some conclusions. But what do you think of when people say, you know, there was some
talk. And of course, not only maybe we heard some chatter on the show, but also the audience,
like, what do you, because as an ex of Jason's and a friend of his, when people say, like,
how do women go with him? You know, like, how is he getting these beautiful women? What do you
think of, of that when people say that? Do you get, like, offended by it for him?
I, I, listen, I feel like it's one of those things. Jason's just, he's a really charming guy.
He's really nice. He's funny. You know, it's not like when I met Jason, I was like, oh, my gosh, you know,
It's like one of those things where he became my best friends.
So I feel like, but that being said, I've seen him go out in the clubs and he, you know, he'll be full.
I mean, he's definitely, he's fine.
Are you, are you ever worried for him as a friend that girls like will take advantage of him?
I think he knows what it is.
He's a smart guy.
Yeah.
You know, I don't think he, any situation I've seen people are, everyone's getting something out of it and everyone's fully aware.
So I don't think Jason has.
ever been taking advantage of.
So this season, I feel like more than other seasons where I feel like there was never really
anything to not be on your side about.
There has been some division this season, even though most people are like not into Nicole,
the agent that kind of was an addition along with Bree this season.
You had some beef with her, the fucking silliest beef on the planet, probably.
But because it was so silly and ridiculous, you didn't want to back down this time.
You know, you kind of wanted to to be like, this is crazy the whole season.
So did you feel like people were in your corner this season?
Or did you feel like people kind of were like, why is what's happening?
Where is Chrisel the nice girl?
I think it's one of those things where I think when we were filming,
I definitely feel like I could tell, you know, that it kind of felt like everybody was kind of targeting me.
And this might be like my villain era because I just couldn't take it anymore.
and I just kind of hit a wall and I didn't care.
So in my head, I really thought this season will come out and it was like, you know,
goodbye, you know, any collab deals, goodbye to all of this because I just can't deal with this anymore.
And I don't, I'm not going to put up with this again.
And I just really kind of, I mean, we film six and seven back to back.
So we'll see if people have any more of a limit for that.
And seven, because I just at this point, I, yeah, I never know how the show is going to shake out.
but I definitely know that, you know, Nicole definitely felt like she was going to come in and, like,
completely turn everything on its head. And it really felt like she had this, this plot going into it.
And for me, there's something about, there's a camera element to it where it's like that is the
quickest way to get under my skin because don't act one way to me off camera. And then all of a
sudden, when you have a camera crew, act completely different. And you'll see that's kind of the
through line with the same exact thing I was talking about before where it's like I had interactions
with someone and everything's amazing and you go on these, you know, like all these, I can't give
too much away about something. But I think if you read between the lines, you'll see what I'm saying
where it's like I got really frustrated with having these interactions with people off camera.
Everything's amazing. Everything's fine. There's no issue. And the second there's a camera on
them, all of a sudden, the quickest way to get a storyline is to say something that isn't
true. Now all of a sudden, I have to defend myself. And I just got really fed up.
Who would tell her as someone who hasn't been on the show, Nicole, this is her first season.
Who would guide her to do that? Like, did she meet Christine for lunch? Like, how would she?
Well, she did want to meet you for lunch before the show as you posted on your Instagram. But who would?
Because I'm, as we said, normal person. I'm about to go in a show. I don't think I could ever like plan something
like that. Be like, okay, let me to try to get some camera time, target the person who gets a lot of
it and like as a normal real estate agent, like how would she, who, did someone coach her? Did
she read online like reality TV 101? I mean, and that's the thing. And to this day, she denies
that. But I have yet to hear than anything that would make coherent sense. And she kept
threatening that she was going to come out with her side. And I'm telling you, I've been
living this for the last we started filming this however long ago i have yet to ever hear one thing other
than what would be the obvious that makes sense she wouldn't admit to make sense because this was so long
ago and you see these dms like we this wasn't the you know relationship that we had after that i'd given
her business after that so if she was upset with that how would you not be fine after someone who's
literally handed you business and again i didn't take any money from that so it just doesn't make any sense
It doesn't make sense.
But do you think aside from that, because we know that's, like, ridiculous.
You guys know the story.
Jason co-listed both of you on a house.
She did more of the work.
You gave her the money, but you're still listed.
And that's what she's angry about this season, even though this was years ago.
Exactly.
Crazy nonsensical.
I think if we're really, like, because now we can talk on a podcast and break the fourth wall, to be honest with you,
I think there's an element there that she'll never admit to.
she was originally asked to be a cast memory season one she turned it down but then the show
you know she saw what it was and changed her mind and wanted to be on it but then the show didn't
ask her on it and so she then wanted to be on it and the show didn't have her on it so i think when
you're putting your because i've really tried to put my mind in her brain trying to really
understand where this is coming from because it's too much it's a lot of crazy so i feel like then
she started really stewing about this and you know she sees now our businesses
jump off. So here she is at the office working and then, you know, we're on the show and we get a lot of
business. So this is something that, again, I don't think she'll ever admit to, but I think there
was a jealousy in the real estate department about, you know, now I'm handing her business and I'm
doing these kinds of things where if she just owned that for one second, we would be the big,
the group to be like, I got you. Like this is going to help your business. Like I would have, I would have
helped her so much more than like instead of admitting that that might be why she was upset all
this time because like the seasons would cast you know different seasons and i in in interview she
wants to say like oh you know that she she was always offered the show and then she decided to join
that's not exactly true she would audition they would see her each season and then make their
decisions so that's not a big deal that's how tv shows go but i'm just saying for her to then
enter in that way i think she kind of i don't know felt she had something to prove or she felt like a
I have no idea.
You'd have to ask her, but nothing that I've,
this is all me inferring because I,
she hasn't ever one time made sense to me.
And in the scenes that you see and she says,
oh, that was editing.
I actually made way more points that they had to edit out because of time.
And she never made one point because I also made several other points.
I made the point that she should be mad at Jason then and not me.
I made the point.
She said I never did any work on it.
I showed her exactly when and where I did the open houses, the buyers I brought there.
She said, how come I didn't know you were there?
I said, I rolled in with the crew of 40 people.
I didn't exactly tiptoe.
You know, so I had all of these points that they, you know, didn't even use.
So her using editing as an excuse is, it's an age old excuse.
It's just, um.
Is it typical in the real estate business for there to be like drama about listings and
co-listing?
I mean, because I would think that money is.
is really the most important thing, right?
If you didn't take a cut.
If you,
if this whole thing was about money,
then it would make way more sense to me.
But if you literally forego your share,
then really,
what the fuck?
Like I don't,
so you think there's some jealousy,
which is obvious.
But I feel like there's also some hatefulness
because then if there was jealousy,
she would be jealous of other cast members as well.
I feel like there's something a little bit personal.
Do you think it could be?
you dated Jason? She's like, Jason's ex. I'm just going to say that, yeah, because that doesn't
make sense. Because season one, there was a lot of times Jason's putting different agents on for
the show, like, so that we can, you know, get the show off and running and we can help our business.
And he did that with several. So you're right. Then why would you have an issue with me when
he did the same thing with you on a different woman with a different agent? So it actually has to,
and she said in the scene, oh, that's not even what I'm mad about. So, okay, great, that you
finally are admitting, then what is it? And then she said something about.
you know that Jason having a crush on me which again it's just another but then why is that
your fault then exactly I said that I said then be mad at Jason like but also you feel dated Jason too
I'm not dating him now I don't care what you felt about his relationship with you and we were
together because guess what we're not together but her making up dumb accusations about me not letting
him answer the phone I also said this in front of Jason in front of everyone when we were filming but
they didn't use this. But I said, just can you please, have I ever in my life totally when
or when not to answer the phone, regardless of when we were together or when we weren't?
I just never have done that. I'm not one of those people. I have other things. I'm sure, you know,
that I could be annoying about or whatever, but that isn't one of them. So at least say something
that would have, you know, made sense. But anyway, oh my God. Well, you know what? I don't think
that she had any success in taking down your character. So,
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did it feel like lighter drama if you had to compare it? Listen, I have appreciated that in the once we
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There was one thing that you got a little bit of heat over,
which was the drugs thing.
Yeah.
Which,
don't you think that's funny?
Because if it was like on Vanderpump rules,
like nobody would care.
Like it wouldn't be a thing because they all tell each other.
I mean,
there was like,
I don't know if you watch it,
but for people that are listening,
like it's all about the pasta.
I mean,
there were always kind of drug references.
But because I guess this show is on Netflix and to the
world and you all have a you know profession in real estate they she took it very harshly mary took
it harshly because it was her bachelorette did you ever like address that oh yeah you did you were
like go drugs or something well yeah and i actually you know when mary got back to the table you know
i get it they want to make it a very serious tone i instantly you know was laughing with mary and saying
i'm sorry you know and trying to make it a little lighter because it's like guys it's not
it's it's hollywood like i didn't realize that was like
such a cardinal thing to even say.
I mean, we've known each other a long time.
You know, I was kind of laughing,
but obviously I understand that.
And Mary didn't think it was funny.
And so I instantly apologize to her.
I wasn't trying to stress Mary out.
There's a lot of those times where, you know,
I get it.
Even this podcast that we're talking about all these things
where it's going to,
there's certain things that seem self-righteous on
because I do feel a little like,
you know, that was bullshit or whatever.
But then there's other times where it's like,
it's going to look a.
certain way, but I don't feel like that at all. Like, Mary has a lot going on. The last thing I'm
trying to do is stress her out. Or when we're talking about things at the penthouse or things
like that, where it's like, I get it. They want to make it look a little. Oh, my God. For sure.
You know, where it's like, you know, they don't want a stuff hug or something like that.
Michelle, wait. We need to get to that ending scene. Was that at the end scene? Because that killed me.
That was, that was an interesting back and forth. The, the scene, first of all, they love ending the season,
you walking out. I feel like it's been, it's been a few now. Maybe that's why everybody comes for you.
It's like your picture is on the thing. You're the walkout. You know what I mean? That's, it puts a
target on your on your back, those things. But yeah, the conversation with Mary, first of all, we all
really ship your relationship. So I'm happy to see on social media that it seems like you're
closer than you were when filming. Yes. Yeah. I think that, you know, also with filming,
they want us to get things on camera organically a little more when we can.
So sometimes it is even more drawn out than it would have been
because normally if we're all about to film like it would have been the kind of thing
where, you know, hey, we haven't seen each other in a while.
Should we get lunch?
You know, they don't want us to do that.
So that makes sense.
They wanted to be more organic and on camera.
I get that because that's the kind of thing people think like,
like they do try to keep it as real as possible, you know,
in these heightened unrealistic places where it's like,
we wouldn't all be staying in the same house in Palm Springs normally, you know?
So that's a heightened scenario.
What happens while we're there, unfortunately, is true.
Yeah.
With Mary, I want to say, too, like, sometimes I get worried because I'm going to get in trouble,
but it's the truth.
In that conversation, when I'm telling her, I don't know if it's worth it or not,
I was having a conversation about the effort that it would take to get hungry in my business
back and like to to be that top selling agent again. I don't know if I have it in me to get back
to that place. Now, I see that it was creatively put that I'm talking about. I don't know if the
effort is worth it into our friendship. I just personally would never say that to her. And I don't
think this is a big deal. Hopefully I won't get trouble for that. But, you know, these are the
little things they do to heighten things where it's like, you know, I get it. It's a, it's a TV show.
But I really love Mary. I care about Mary. I'm never putting our friendship on the line like,
that, you know, yeah, there's some real life things that happen where people break up.
It's awkward and it's unfortunate, but this happens.
So I think that's okay that people see that.
But I think that the undercurrent of all of that is that I haven't ever not loved her or cared for her.
And I think the same, she would say the same.
So that's the one thing where, you know, definitely in our group, not everyone, like this person
will be friends with that person, but not with the, it's just very divided.
But it doesn't matter who she's friends with.
I'm always going to be friends with Mary.
Did you forgive her for, like you were saying, being more with Jason when the breakup happened?
Yeah.
And that's, I mean, that's real life.
You know, these things happen.
I think that they do this trip every year.
And I'm not there.
That's not her fault.
That's now the friend group is divided.
That has nothing to do with her.
You know, and I think so it was a mix of owning one that there's just sensitivities of feeling left out.
That is not your friend doing anything to hurt you.
And then two, just that on her part was she, you know, said that she maybe could do more to like make sure, you know, I'm not feeling that way.
So I think it was just two adults really like addressing.
One, I'm owning that it was a sensitive time.
You know, it was kind of rough.
And to see it just felt like weird and different.
And all of a sudden, you know, you're seeing all these things that you did together.
And now it's just like, it just felt weird.
And it was okay.
That's normal.
That's life.
But you normally don't have to shoot a reality show about it.
So by the time, I feel like then we needed to talk about it.
You know, everybody was moved on and happy,
but it was just an awkward time that I think in real life,
you wouldn't really address it.
You just move on.
But we did need to address it.
So it actually makes it healthier once you kind of like get all that gunk out of the line.
Yeah.
I think that final scene with the penthouse did feel kind of heavily edited because that's
why I laughed about it because it was like the penhouse.
I don't want to work on it.
I don't think it's worth it for me.
Murray's like, huh?
And then you're like, I want to spend time with G.
And she's like, okay, go do that.
Bye.
And I was like, what just happened?
So as you were saying, it was kind of like a mix of things.
You were more talking about you, Chrisel, and that probably she said go spend time with
G because you were saying, I actually want to be spending more time with G than crushing
it at work right now.
So, I mean, ideally, it's still similar.
But yeah, basically it boiled down to her.
her getting frustrated. I wasn't giving more. I hadn't, you know, wasn't saying I was going to
help sell the penthouses like I feel like I normally would have. And then in me being very
open about why I didn't feel like I wanted to help with that. And then say kind of just where
I'm out in life. Like if you feel like it needs to be a competition for my desk, then maybe
I need to think about that because I don't know that I want to fight for my desk. It was more
of a conversation like that. And of course, you know, if she's telling me something really
personal and sensitive. I'm not going to be that person that just like nods my head and then walks
off. But I get that that is, you know. We got to ask this. Amanda, what happened? How did it even
start that people thought that something happened? You were such good friends. Is there anything you can
tell us there? I mean, she obviously wanted people to know. I mean, you can need someone. Well,
well, she really wanted people to know. Yeah. So, so I feel like if she was given the opportunity,
would say it.
So that's why I'm asking you.
I mean, this one is sad for me because I love Amanda.
This one's still like, I don't know what to make of this.
But yeah, it's obvious that she wanted people to know about this,
which makes it a lot harder to work things out without now.
We're in the situation when really, you know,
nothing was even going to be known about this until so long from now
whenever into this year or something.
But and hopefully by then everything, you know,
I thought we'd work through everything to be honest before I even knew.
this. So it's frustrating. I think that Amanda has a lot going on right now. And I think that sometimes
I don't know. I personally think that she's putting a lot of blame and in anger on me that is
misplaced, to be honest. And I know that some people are going to hear that and think a certain
way. But I feel like when you see it, you will see what I'm saying. I can't really talk about
what happened. But what I will reiterate is that I said this earlier in the
podcast, I'm extremely protective of my relationship in G. And I will just say that anything involving
G in the show, the one caveat that was, I was super clear from the very beginning is that it
cannot and will not involve anything to do with any drama whatsoever. And so if I take heat for that
or if she's mad at me for anything on that, then all I can do is apologize, but I stick by what I
what I know what serves me and my relationship, which is important to me.
Other than that, I love Amanda and I hope that she, you know, sees.
Wait, Creschelle, just to clarify, we're going to see this unfold in season seven, sounds like.
So you can't really tell us what happened.
You said she wanted to make it known.
What do you mean by that?
What did she do that made it known?
She made it known that, like, she blocked me on Instagram, but if she just muted me,
nobody would have even known anything.
Oh, she blocked you on Instagram.
then I can't post pictures and tag her
and all my things go away or something.
I don't know.
It becomes where you can see it.
Oh, I got you.
Because I think one of the first things I saw
that made me think something went awry between you two
is her defending Nicole in comments.
And that's when it kind of clicked to me like,
okay, it seems like Amanda,
who normally I would associate as being Chrisel's,
you know, one of her really good friends,
is actively seeking to respond to,
commenters in defense of Nicole.
So that's when I was like, hmm, you know,
that kind of was the first light bulb that went off.
She said a lot of things on Instagram.
So we're going to see in season seven.
Okay.
Well, Chrisel, you know, I love you.
You know I got your back.
And I'm excited for season seven.
There were so many other things I wanted to talk to you about.
But time fucking flew.
It looks like you're really close with Bree.
So you're liking hers as an addition.
Yes.
Bree's amazing.
I think she was such a great addition to the show and just like such a badass.
Yeah.
And she's like kind of in your friend group now.
Yeah.
And you just like when somebody comes in with that energy and just owns it and it really,
it really helps, you know, just make someone enter the world seamlessly.
Because, you know, she she will stand 10 toes down on her opinion.
And then you feel like that is really the only way to kind of like work in this group.
because it's hard, you know, you see, like, obviously I love Chelsea so much.
And so it's like, it's hard to be in the middle of that.
But how did you, so I was going to ask you, what did you think of Chelsea coming for her relationship?
Well, I've actually been working on getting the two of them to be friends because I really do think that they're similar in so many ways of things that I really admire in another like strong, you know, badass email.
So I can look at certain things.
I'm sure my friends would say the same things about me.
They wouldn't approve of everything I did.
on season six, you know, I don't have to approve of everything my friends do.
But that doesn't mean that I don't have their back and I don't, you know,
fix this relationship between the two of them.
Because I see where both people are coming from.
I really do.
But that being said, I think production hates me because I'm always over here trying to get us,
you know, but I like, no fighting guys, no fighting.
Everybody be happily.
The people that I really love, you know, obviously there's a few, you know, people at this point
where it's like, I do not care.
You can do whatever you want.
and let's go.
So a couple other questions is I wanted to ask you just personally because you know I posted
about Heather's bump and, you know, very, I mentioned in a very light way that it was just
funny that she announced her bump so much this season every time she walked in a room.
And I think she commented like, yeah, I did.
Proud of my bump.
So do you think she's the type of person that got offended by that kind of post or do you
think she could lull about it?
I think there's some of us that really like can take the piss out of ourselves.
and just like laugh along, you know, and then there's some that are a little more sensitive
for things that obviously is a sensitive topic. I don't know on this one specifically, but I think
Heather can be a little sensitive. So I'm not sure what her response was. But I, that wouldn't
surprise me if she, you know, because I feel like she's so, such a love bug and she can be a little more
sensitive. And I'm a little more like so crass. And sometimes make the worst jokes or people
are like, is that okay to laugh? I'm like, it's fine. It's fine. Yeah. I know. You think you
really like lean in. You really lean in. And there were a lot of jokes this season or jokes or just
people noticing it more than other seasons about the high fucking fashion of selling sunset.
Like do you ever see you guys like showing a house in like jeans, dare I say? Well, you know what's
funny is that I think that that's the only way to surprise people. You know, you're keeping people on
their toes. So maybe that's where they go from here. It's like everybody put on a pair of slack. So do you know
when season seven is coming out? Do you have any? I see. I mean, I've heard the rumor that it would be
later this year. But just like, you know, originally I think we were told that season six was going to be a
couple months before it was. So I think it's like as they get it together. But I think it's supposed to be
later this year. Are you excited? Are you nervous for it to come out? What are your feelings? Honestly, I get really
nervous just because I know that same as six.
Like there's going to be moments that I have to watch and I'd be like, oh my God.
Like you're watching me at my absolute, I'm at the end of my rope.
I'm at the end of my rope.
So I don't know.
I never know how that's going to shake out.
There's a lot of heartwarming, amazing parts.
And there's these women that we don't focus on enough, but I would do anything for.
At any time, I don't care if we're filming or for not filming, there's nothing.
I wouldn't do. Like who? You're talking about Emma?
Honestly, I feel like I have that relationship with almost every girl. Obviously, I'm on the
outs right now with the man's. I'm hoping that we can get that back sorted. And clearly, I don't
get along with Nicole. There's nobody else on this cast that couldn't call me at any time of
the night of the day that I wouldn't drop everything to go. And I feel like I have the same
relationship with them. It goes both ways. I really feel like that's the one thing you miss a little
bit on the show. It's like the sisterhood and the camaraderie and this like crazy journey that
we've lived in these lives that, you know, it's more fun to focus on the drama. And I get it.
But not everyone gets along, but I feel like I have that relationship with almost everyone. And yes,
that the season seven is going to focus on all of the ones that I don't have that relationship.
Yeah. So you're a little nervous about it. I can't, I mean, we can't wait to binge it. So any regrets from
season six, Cargell? Any regrets? I mean, I know what the main one would be, but at this point,
it's hard to say if I regret anything. I feel like, could I have done things better? Does that
count as a regret? I mean, hashtag no regrets. Hashtag reflecting and improving themselves. Yeah. I mean,
I'm not above criticism for sure. I definitely, but that being said, like, yeah, I don't know.
If you guys haven't seen seven yet and you haven't seen.
Oh, my God.
Oh, my God.
In that moment, if we're talking about like in that moment, did I have regrets?
The answer would have been yes.
Oh, okay.
But there were, okay, she's season, season seven.
A little too far.
And then, but now you're talking to me after I've already done seven.
So I'm going to say, hashtag no regret.
Oh, my God.
We can't wait.
Chrisel, I love you.
I wish you really the best summer ever.
Thank you.
And just live your life and have fun with G.
Thank you.
And keep on walking out dramatically of, you know.
I'm going to pop you out dramatically.
Everywhere you go.
And thank you for coming on so much.
You know, I appreciate it.
So good to see one of these days in person, hopefully.
I know.
I know.
And hopefully soon.
Okay.
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