Not Skinny But Not Fat - Chronically Online with Haley Kalil (aka @haleyybaleyyy)

Episode Date: January 6, 2026

This week, I’m sitting down with Haley Kalil (aka @haleyybaylee), one of the most viral creators. We discuss how she got here from wanting to be a doctor, to Sports Illustrated to that viral apartment tour that changed everything.We get into how one TikTok changed it all. Haley talks about going viral without planning it, being funny on the internet as a woman without getting boxed in as “just hot,” and what it’s really like when you’re finally one of the girls. We discuss toxic relationships, bad pickers, and living your dream life!This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Go to shopminnow.com and enter code MEETMINNOW15 at checkout to receive 15% off your first order.Simplify your kids' mealtimes. Go to littlespoon.com/NOTSKINNY30 and enter our code NOTSKINNY30 at checkout to get 30% off your first Little Spoon order.Visit durable.com/notskinny and get started with Durable for free today. When you're ready to publish your website, use code NOTSKINNY for 30% off all plans.Get started today at stitchfix.com/NOTSKINNY to get $20 off your first order when you buy five or more items.Get 15% off your first order plus free shipping at bollandbranch.com/notskinny with code NOTSKINNYTo explore coverage, visit ASPCApetinsurance.com/NOTSKINNYProduced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny Bonafat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hi, guys. What's up, what's up. What's up? What's up? It's the first episode of 20, 26. I'm not going to say it. I'm not going to be all like, time is crazy. I do that every episode. And I'm fucking done with that. Anyway, welcome to not skinny but not fat. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch. And we're in 2026, babies. We're in 2026. Everyone's like, 2027. What else do we do when it's a new year? Well, I guess, like, when we were in school,

we used to write it wrong for the first six months. That's me. But what else? What else is changing with the new year, aside from us, me, but also you guys, please join me in continuing the year of yes vibes. Because we are, it's so funny. I'm, like, eating this really, like, genetically modified bar right now. I won't call the brand out.

And I'm like, I have, you know, people are like, I'm 80, 20, like 80%. clean. Like, if I would look at the ingredients, I'd probably not eat it, but like, I just don't feel like anything. I'm like, my husband, bless his heart, made like chicken the other day drum sticks. And I was like tearing away at a drumstick trying to put it in a salad right now, disgusted with the bones all of a sudden. And I put it over like some baby spinach. And then I added this like avocado oil based salad dressing, which like is better for you. But right? Avocata oil. Yuck a fucking Rama, you guys. Like I, oh, so gross. I just feel like I don't know what to eat. So, like, after eating that gross-ass salad, I ate a GMO bar. Like, I've never

said GMO because you only say, like, non-GMO to, like, say something is good. But here I am eating full GMO. And I know my, I have those protein chips that I like, they're GMO. I'm fucking GMO to up you guys lately. And I don't want to be. But, like, I just feel like when you're trying to be healthy and eat well. Nothing is really that yummy. So then you've got to put in some like yummy GMO. You get it? You fucking get it. I will say little things make me happy. Like I'm drinking a chai tea, added some like creamer, some like vanilla creamer. That makes me happy. My coffee in the morning makes me really happy. A yogurt with like some protein powder mixed in. Listen, you do what you got to do. Like my nutritionist literally.

I follow her. We worked together for a few months. Like, now we're not, like, working together. But I follow her on Instagram. Like, she just posted yesterday. Like, to go snack, it's like an egg, pieces of chicken, and, like, pieces of cucumber. But that's why I liked her because that was, like, attainable. You know, like, it's not like a snack that looks like I could never make it or get my hands on.

It's like, I was like, I could fucking eat an egg and a fucking cucumber if I have to. Anyway. So happy 2026. I'm going into 2026 with positive vibes. positive energy with freezing in New York trying to run away. I literally booked, we're in January now, but, like, I'm pre-recording this. So, like, I booked a vacation for tomorrow today, okay, because I was like, it's so cold, I need to get out.

And we could talk about the whole type of be personality. If I am, I don't know, but I need to start booking vacations ahead of time. I suck so fucking bad at that. It's wild. I did start heated rivalry. It's everything that everybody was saying it was going to be, like, give it to me, give it all to me, give me fucking, give me the whole thing. Give me that story guy. What's his name? Connor's story? Give it, give him to me on a fucking platter with that bum,

chickabum, bum, okay? I love it. I love it all. I just love it all. I get it. And what can I get how I's busy with so I can watch the show properly without him like thinking I'm watching gay porn? Anyway, on today's pod. So I met this content creator at an event and I was, I knew her because I've seen her videos so many times. This is reminding me of Conan O'Brien. I listened to Conan O'Brien's podcast the other day. And, like, he does, everyone in podcasting does it now where you think you're, like, surprising people with the guests.

But at the same time, the guest's name is in the fucking title of the pod that you already know, but still we're, like, tricking ourselves that you don't know. It's like this whole fucking fucked up thing where, like, he comes from late 90 TV. We're like, everyone knew who was going to be on the show. So why are we doing this pretending? But we can't stop with the teasing and pretending and whatever. But this girl, see, I can stop, so I knew she created amazing content. I've seen it, like, she's everywhere.

She's huge in numbers, but only when I sat down next to her at this event, we had some champagne, she started telling me her life story, and it was so fascinating to me, and I was like, you need to come in the pod. Anyway, her life story is super interesting how she got to making content and getting millions and millions of followers on virtually every platform. I've seen her at work, like making, I've seen her, like, do what she does, and I'm astounded. Like the way I quotation marks create content and the way she creates content, very different. I'm like filming myself on the couch, you know what I mean?

Or doing my pod. But she's like, erring, like her fingers work at like an insane speed. And she's like a true as it comes content creator. I can't believe I have been said who she is, even though it's in the title of the pod. It's Haley Khalil. You may know her online as Haley Bailey. She's creating content with everyone from the Jonas Brothers to Jared Leto. She says it's a super nice guy, by the way.

And so interesting, like how she got to this, how she got from Minnesota to New York to being this huge, what do we call it, social media star? Is that an age me? Anyway, super interesting story. She's super open about past relationships and so grateful to be here, which we love about that. So welcome, everybody. Welcome, Haley Khalil. Hey, Haley Kalil, welcome. Hi.

How are you? I'm good. How about you? Good. I, you're in my mind as Haley Bailey. That's what everyone calls me. So the fact that you call me Haley, I was like, wait, who? I mean, I'm giving, like, we're official.

We're in a blazer. I know. So, we're corporate. We're so corporate. We're so corporate. So we're going to go by first and last. You know what I mean? Yeah.

But why Bailey then? Is that a middle name? So a lot of people don't know, but my middle name is B. Like, not like the bumblebee, not like the letter B, like, B, because my dad loved the name Beatrice. And my mom was like, I'm not doing that to my kid. So they settled on B. And my nickname growing up was Haley,

Haley, Haley, Bailey. And so when I created an Instagram account, I, like, didn't think I would ever be a content creator. Yeah. So I was like, okay, what's available? And I was like, Haley Bailey. And then that wasn't available. So I was like, maybe add another E. That wasn't available. I'm like, add a few more E's, maybe a couple Ys. That was available. So that's why my username is so confusing. I mean, I'm not kidding, but not found my love. So like, Haley with a few ease, like is, you know, you're serving with yours. Yeah. I'm surviving with mine. No, you're eating up the game. Thank you.

So I'd love to that I know that now because I never knew why you were, I was typing in all those letters. You know what I mean? People also think it's like my real name. And now it's almost become my name. Like when people call me by my full formal corporate name, I'm like, who? Who is she? Would you change it? Legally, no.

Just because like taxes are annoying. And like if you have to change your name, like it just gets into some crazy paperwork. It is. I don't love paperwork. Okay. So I'm more of just like, if people want to call me Haley Bailey, I'm down. Yeah. I'm cool with that.

So we met at the time, time event. The time. It was like persons of the year. Persons of the year. We sat next to each other. So that's how we met. Yeah. And you told me your whole life story.

I like interviewed you. And we drank a lot of champagne. We did a pre-interview, literally. We did. But basically without knowing it. It was the champagne. I just kept chugging champagne. I'm like, I'm going to tell my life story.

No, you told me your life story. And it was so interesting. I was so happy to get to know you because I think so many people, like my sister is here today, like, I don't think there's one person that hasn't seen the apartment tour, the talk to God apartment tour. Yeah, that's crazy. That went fucking viral. So viral.

What year was that? That was when I first started. So that was end of 2022, like October, 2022. And yeah, now it's almost 2026. That's crazy. And then you had how many followers? You were telling me. Oh, man.

I had like no followers. I had followers. Well, that's a lot. lie. I had followers, but they were mostly men because I was a model. Uh-huh. So it's like I was posting what my agency wanted me to post or what I thought I was supposed to post as a model, which was like sexy girl, pretty hot girl trends. Is it still there people like, scroll back? Oh, yes. Scroll on back. I post a lot, so you're going to be scrolling Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But it's still all there. And that's kind of just like what I was posting

because it's what I thought I had to post as model. Yeah. So my entire following, I think was like 99% dudes. Stop. One percent women. Now, it's flipped, huh? Completely flipped. Really? Yeah. I'm going to ask you about the ratio. Yeah.

So the ratio is low for men. Yeah. Like, you think they left? Oh, I hope so. Because, like, I mean, the guys that were there were looking at my body, right? And, like, sure, there's a time and a place for you to celebrate your body. I think that that's dope. I want people to feel confident in their own skin.

But I felt kind of like in a cage during that time because I felt like I couldn't be myself. I couldn't, like, show my weird personality. I couldn't, like. Because they're trying to be hot. Yeah, because I was trying to be like hot girl. Yeah. And it so wasn't me. It so wasn't you.

It was not me. So your personality came out in this apartment tour. Like people noticed were you like trying to be funny? Or tell me, let's go more back. Is this, are these apartment tours planned? Because if you see this guy, Caleb Simpson, then he'll come up to you on the street and be like, hey, can we go upstairs? So can you give us the BTS on that?

With women, he's respectful, right? Like if a guy approached you on the street, would you necessarily allow him into your apartment as a woman in New York. Most likely not if your survival skills are intact. So he had somebody reached out from his team who, I guess they had seen like a picture posted that one of my friends had posted in front of my window. And so he reached out to her and said, his apartment is this. And then from there, we like got connected. But the first time I met him, after I made sure like he wasn't a killer, the first time I met him was when he toured my apartment. So that part is very real. He never saw it before. Never stepped foot before in it. I had never met him prior to

the moment I met him on the street. Yeah. And so it is. It's just him and a phone. You go to this meeting spot. You make sure, like, hey, you're Caleb Simpson and you're not going to murder me, right? And then he comes into your apartment. And that's pretty much it.

When he approached you about it, were you nervous to, like, show your apartment to, like, strangers online? Or did you have to, like, think about it for a second? You said, yes right away. Like, what was the vibe? I mean, I love internet. Like, I love internet culture. I am an internet watcher before I am a creator, even though, like, I post, like, 87 times a day.

So, like, now I'm a creator. But when I first started, I just love short-form media. I love comedy. I love comedy sketches. I loved S&L. So I knew who Caleb was. And so when they contacted me, I was like, yo, this is sick. I get to be on the apartment guys.

I'm like, I scrubbed my apartment. Scroved. I like rearranged the fridge, made sure all the labels were facing forward. Like, even if your apartment was dirty, it would still, I feel like it's one of his, is it his, like, top performing video? I don't know. Okay. I wonder.

I've never looked. I wonder. He's got a lot of. bangers though. He does, but I do feel like that's a very memorable one because let me tell you guys, like the friend's apartment doesn't exist in New York and Haley's apartment pretty much doesn't exist in New York. Like even if you'll see like a rich, rich person's apartment, it won't look like that. It would look like more like just like upscale and maybe fancy and bigger, but yours has like personality, you know? It didn't look like that though when I first found it. Like it was

it was pretty beat up. It was one of the only apartments in the complex. So there's only like eight apartments in that whole complex, which I love because it's really private. And it was the only one that hadn't been renovated. So a lot of the stuff that I did to it, like I did to it, I fixed the kitchen. I like put on all the knobs myself. I painted stuff. So like, I'm really glad that people like it because I've tried to make it as homey as possible. But I loved the window. Yeah. When I first walked in, I was like, this is the sanctum store. Like, hello, Dr. or strange, I have to have this apartment. So when you moved to New York, you moved to be, to model.

Yeah. What, you had an agency. You grew up where? So I grew up in Minnesota. Minnesota. Never really thought any of the, ever thought this would be my life. Of course, I idolized fashion. I idolized short form media.

I idolized YouTubers. I loved like everything online. I just didn't think I would ever have access to it. Yeah. And my parents would have also probably never let me start a YouTube channel. under the age of 18, like ever? They were like no education. You came from like a conservative home, right?

Not even conservative, just very like, they're not big city folk. Uh-huh. They're Minnesotans. They're like, they know what they do. My dad's in manufacturing. My sister is an attorney. My brother's an engineer. Yeah.

So they're very just like, I guess like normal Midwestern family. Uh-huh. And I remember when I was little, I told my mom I wanted to go to one of those castings for Disney Channel. And she was like, nah. Nah, you're going to get messed up. Like, nah. But that was always my dream.

Like, I loved performing. And so I went to school for biomedical engineering psych with minor and chem. So I was planning on medical school. Literally. Like, you wanted to be a doctor? I wanted to be a doctor. And my best friend is a doctor. We were on the same path.

So she's a pediatrician. And now she looks at me and she's like, you're so lucky. You weren't a doctor. And also, like, what were you thinking? Like, you know what I mean? Like, do you feel now like were you kind of trying to, like, put away this dream? because your parents weren't that into it or like because you thought you couldn't do it.

Like yeah, because how does someone with this much like pizzazz, right? It is like screaming online all day. Like, how did you think you were going to be in a completely different? I guess I just never like touched entertainment. No one in my family was an entertainment. No one even remotely like lives anywhere besides Minnesota.

So like it's, it feels so unattainable. Right. And I think that that's, one of the reasons why, like, my life feels like a blur the last couple years, because I'm just amazed I'm even doing this. Like, I'm stoked. I'm so stoked. I want to do this for the rest of my life. But, like, it didn't feel like something I could ever achieve. So how did modeling happen? I, so I submitted to Sports Illustrated Swim Search. I swear, I owe meta my life for, like, making my life happen because it was on Instagram. A couple of my friends were doing it. And they were like,

A, S-I-Swimsuits holding their first ever open casting call, you should submit. We're making videos. I'm like, sick. I'll submit. And so I think I made my account, like, un-private for it so they could see the video. And it's just me, like, sitting on a bed, talking to the camera. In a swimsuit? No.

Oh, God. No. No, in, like, sweatpants. Oh, okay. So they do the swimsuit search, not in the swim, not, yeah. I mean, there are certain people that, like, do an entire, like, beautiful montage of them, like, running on the beach. Wait, you were really in sweatpants? I was really in sweatpants.

It's still on my instrument. So you can find it if you scroll back. Wait, so you did this video, you posted it, and you won? And I, so like nothing happened. It had maybe, I don't know, it had like a hashtag. So people were like creeping on the hashtag. I was creeping on the hashtag. I was like, who's my competition?

Dang it, they're all so hot. I'm screwed. And then randomly, I was getting ready to move from Minnesota to Charlotte. I was packing up my house. I was with my mom. I get this DM from Sports Illustrated swimsuit, and it's got the blue check mark. Yeah.

And we all know if it's got the blue check mark, it's not alive. And they were like, hey, we saw your casting thing. And we want to invite you to the casting in New York. And so, of course, I was like, what? Like, what? Oh, my God. And I flew out to New York. I did the entire casting.

It was like a year and a half long process of like shooting in Miami, walking Miami swim week, then shooting in Belize with the top six. And then Camille Kostick and I ended up winning the entire thing. In Vegas, they surprised us with the news that we had won the first ever as I search. Yeah. And what year was that? That was 2018. Wow.

I feel like I've lived like a bunch of lives. That was, you finished the bio-co, what? Biomedical. Yeah, yeah. So you did that, but you know what I feel about you? Because it reminds me of me in that sense is like, you knew you wanted something. Yes. You weren't, what I call it, like, and my listeners now is like, you weren't like sleeping in your car for it, right?

Like the actors that we hear of or whatever. but you were like throwing these little like, you know, throwing your hat in the ring? Kind of, yeah. For the things that you can, like, okay, submit, I could submit, you know? Like the things that didn't require you to like uproot your life, move, you know, without your parents like being into whatever. You were like, I could do that. I could do that. Yeah.

And then you have it. So shit starts happening. Yeah. It was like I watched a lot of people on YouTube. I think that's why I liked YouTubers. What did you love? Jenna Marbles. Okay.

I was obsessed with Jenna Marbles. Obviously, that was like the entire reason why I wanted to be a YouTuber. Because she was just a person, like a normal person that acted and behaved normally. She had like no connections to entertainment. She was just her. And I think that's what was so likable about her because she just was like a real person. And I think growing up, especially without social media, it felt like the entertainment industry, although I loved it, they weren't real people. people to me. They were like untouchable characters. Right. And so Jenna made it seem like, oh,

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possible, yet a part of me was like delusional and was like, but maybe. Maybe. I'm, I'm analytical, right? So I was like, the same thing as you just said, whenever an opportunity presents itself, I'm going to toss my hat and do it. Of course. But am I going to pack up everything, move to L.A., ignore my family? The odds of that working out for me are probably not great. So I'm just going to stick with what I know. I love medicine. I love medicine. I find the human body fascinating. And so that passion carried me through everything. But of course, on the side, whenever there was any little chance, I was like, hi. So the apartment tour is really like you credit that to like a moment. Yeah. No, I tell Caleb all

the time, I'm like, thank you for giving me a platform where I could be visible to people. Yeah. Because I never in a million years imagined it would go that viral either. Yeah. And do you see, like what were the numbers? I think in like five hours, there was like 55 million views or something crazy. And then what were your followers going up? Like, was it like 100K in the day? Oh, I hit a million. like right after. I mean, pretty fast. And I think the one thing that surprised me was... But what were you at?

No, I need to understand. I was at maybe $150,000. It was all dudes from like... I had like one viral euphoria trend thing that I did. It was a transition where you like fall back and you turn into the world of euphoria. That was like pandemic. I had like...

So you're saying you went from about $150K to like $1 million from this apartment tour. Like overnight. And the thing that surprised me was I was used to a world where like... It was men in my comment section. It was men talking about... my body talking about my face talking, you know, over sexualizing me pretty much, which like, I put myself in that position, so I don't judge them for that. But this was women in the comment

section of Caleb's video. And it was women being like, yo, I vibe with her. And that was like one of the first times in my life that a community of women were like, wait, she's cool. And I was like, wait, I am. Wait, what? And the second that happened, I was like, yo, I'm going to be myself because women get that. Yeah. Women, I'm going to take off all of the. these things that I learned in modeling for like how men are supposed to perceive me. And I'm just going to be me because, oh my gosh, women, women are viving with me just being me. And that's like a really, really, really good feeling. And you were telling me when we met that you before, like two seconds before the meeting, Caleb, you were going to leave New York. Yeah. I had, I had two weeks

left on the apartment. It was an apartment that I had with an ex that he could afford, I could not. So I literally had two weeks left on the lease. I was getting ready to move. getting ready to move home in with my mom because I didn't really have much money to like invest in anything else. But I did have a savings of about like 200,000. That was like my, oh my gosh, I need to restart my life. I need to find a new career. And this needs to last me however long it takes for me to find my next thing. Yeah. And I remember after the apartment tour went viral, I was on the phone with my mom and I was like, this is the only thing people know me for is an apartment that I cannot afford and I will not own in two weeks. And I have enough to resign one lease,

but that is my entire livelihood. It's everything I've ever made in modeling. It was everything I ever made in my immunology lab that I worked at prior. Should I do this? And I still have like the notes app of my budget, like everything. I had to budget out everything. And she was like, listen, if you think you can do it, do it. If you don't, then move home and invest that money in a different way and I re-signed the lease. Wow, that's psycho. It's psycho. No, it's like chills because it's like, because what you're saying, the way you put it

was like, if this went viral and two weeks later or not in that apartment, nobody's going to care. And also you look kind of like fraudulent. Yeah. And I felt it too. Right. Like people would be like, wait, does she not live there? Yes.

So you had this going on in your mind because if two people saw the video, you could do whatever, like move back. No one would know. Yes. But because it went so crazy, you had to like upkeep this. It was like the only thing people knew me for it. They were like, you're the apartment girl. And so I thought, okay, logically, right?

Because I'm, I studied science. I'm very logical in like how I think. And I was like, okay, logically, I move out of this thing. They're not going to have any idea who I am. They're going to be like, wait, what? And that's, it's hard to already make an impact and like be a real person on the internet. It's just tough because you have like a screen. way, right? I wanted to give myself the best shot of people getting to actually know me without

being confused by like all of these moving parts that were happening in my life because my life at that point was, was not in a great place. Like I had just gotten out of, well, actually during the apartment to where I was still in a very abusive relationship. And I mentally was not. This was not your ex-clair, right? This was a new boyfriend. Yes. Yes. This was a boyfriend. Is this a boyfriend that you reference? Because I've seen a lot of your videos, like, when you talk about being in an abusive relationship, is it that ex? Because I was like,

I'm hoping there wasn't like another one after that. I have a bad picker, my friends like to say. No, I doubt, of course, as any girl has with a lot of emotional abuse in relationships, cheating,

all of that stuff. But no, one of my exes was physically abusive. And that's what I was going through during the apartment tour. And that's why in my first billionaire boyfriend, I have a cast on my wrist. Because, yeah,

domestic violence. Wow, I'm so sorry about that. Did you ever, did you go to the police? Yes. Yeah, I filed domestic violence charges. Yeah. And we're good. I mean, it's, he hasn't come back into my life. I'm really grateful for that. I hope. I honestly hope and I say this truthfully that I hope that the success I've had after that, that he sees, because he had a real hatred, I think, for women just from his past, that he sees that like he should treat women better because we're capable of a lot more. than he ever thought we were kind of thing. Yeah. But it was a hard time in my life. And I truly credit the women in my comment section in the apartment tour. I don't want to get emotional when I talk about this. It's like hard to talk about.

I credit them with saving my life. Wow. Completely and totally. Because I never felt seen by women. Were you one of those girls that women, like, it was hard for other girls, like, be friends with you because you were like, oh, I hope not. Okay. I mean, it was more like I grew up super nerdy and I was kind of like an outcast and my best friend who has been my best friend since kindergarten, her name is Lindsay. She's the doctor. Oh, she's the pediatrician. She's the pediatrician, the greatest person in the world. It was like us against the worlds because I grew up in an environment where a lot of families had a lot of money and me and Lindsay like didn't really come from that. And we were kind of like the nerdy outcasts in high school and in middle school and elementary school. And so I just

was always scared of making friendships outside of Lindsay. And that's why I think in modeling, I embraced that world so much because I was like, well, men are giving me attention. And no one's ever come to me and given me attention like this before. This must be what I'm supposed to pursue. Gotcha. And then in the apartment tours, the first time women, like, were nice to a complete stranger. What were like the comments that like meant the most to you that you saw on the apartment tour? Oh, like, I just, I want to be her best friends. Oh, yeah. Or like, yo, I vibe with her. Or like, her aura is legit.

And I'm like, wait, all these sounds so Gen Z. Yo, her aura is legit. Like, my entire career started by brain rot. But yeah, yeah, it was the first time I felt seen by women. That's amazing. And that made me de-center a man in my life who was doing horrible things to me. That made you take, make the decision to leave that abusive guy. Yes.

And when you posted after the apartment tour with the cast, Because billionaire boyfriend, if people don't know listening to this, came from the apartment tour as well. Yes. People were like, who's affording this? It must be a billionaire. By the way, when I met you, I might have asked you as well because I think it's like a misconception of like, is it real?

Is it not? And people then know the lore like, no. Yeah. But like, I feel like there are still people who are like, oh, wait, so who is the billionaire boyfriend? Oh, people say it all the time. Yeah. I'm like, are you trolling or did you, do you actually think?

Like, I get it. I thought it was Jared Leto for a minute. I mean, you throw us for a loop, you know? Yeah, no, I, during that time, I had so many things going on in my head. So much was changing. So much was happening. And I've always been somebody who my entire life I've coped with comedy. I think, like, that's been my way of expressing myself

because sometimes I find it hard to, like, communicate the things I'm feeling in a serious way. Yeah. And so not only was I getting all these comments from men being like, well, you can't afford this place. And I'm like, dang it. Right now, I know. I know I can't. I was also dealing with all those feelings of going through this cycle of narcissistic abuse. And so I took all of that. And I almost like put it into my comedy. And that's where billionaire boyfriend was born in that I gave these men who needed a man to own this place, a man to own this place. And then on top of it, I was able to poke fun at all of those feelings of like control and suppression that I felt from

my relationship at the time. And then again, the support of women laughing along with me at kind of like jokes at my own trauma was so unbelievably healing. Like you rather that than people like feel sorry for you. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. Because like everyone goes, I think, through some level of abuse at some point in their life, especially women. And I don't need a woe is me. Right. Because part of that, I was in that. And I was in that. And I chose to stay in it. Not like that's any of my fault. But like, I'm a logical person. I know this. And so for me, being able to poke fun at my struggle helped me get out of the struggle. It's like healing to make fun of things. I was just watching like you love comedy. So maybe you love

Conan O'Brien. I love Conan O'Brien. By the way, like his episode with like Will Arnette cracked me. It meant so much to me. I just thought it was so funny. And I was like, I need to new life goal is to text with Conan because he was just describing how he texts with people and manic and chaotic. Yep. But when his parents died, they were telling the story. Did you see this clip? It was like he made a huge joke.

Like his parents died. He was so close to his parents. But what he did was like, Will Arnett was like so sorry for your loss. And Conan said back like Jason Bateman did it. And they started this whole joke about it. And it became a thing. It was like, I think. And then his mom died two days later.

And he was like, Bateman got my mom. Like, you know, so they were just talking about truly what you were saying, like, how that is his way. And people might think it's, like, psychotic. Yes. And, like, you're fucking crazy. But, like, that is meant so much. He, like, thanked we'll aren't out after all these years. So I totally get what you're saying.

I get those people. Because, like, my background on my phone is my dog who passed away, like, two and a half years ago. And people will always be like, oh, my gosh, your dog is so cute. And I'm like, thanks. She's dead. But, like, it's, it's my way. It's weird. It's like, if I can laugh about it, I can humanize it.

Yeah. And I can understand it. It's like, but yeah, the only thing that, like, they're uncomfortable, not you. You know what I mean? And I would never do it to somebody else's trauma because you don't know if that's how they process that because everyone's different. By the way, that made me think of something. I am Jewish. So I have, like, superstitions and, like, we knock on wood.

You post about, like, dying so much that, like, I can't handle it. Like I would never even a sentence say, like, if I'm talking about dying, it would be like, God forbid, may it never happen. And you are posting obituaries for yourself. You just posted today, by the way, because I had it already in my notes. And you posted today getting hit by a car. Yep. What's wrong with you? Yeah, I think I'm mentally not okay. I'm struggling. No, I, it's like the internet is meant to be funny. And so then, like, I randomly, I was scrolling on my for you page because I'm on that thing, like 15 hours a day.

And I was scrolling. And all of a sudden, I see this. this video about me dying. And it was like, Haley Bailey has passed away. And they told everyone I was passed away at a $14 million mansion. Thanks for that. I don't have one of those. Billionaire boyfriend coming into us. And I just was in bed and I was like, oh, I'm stitching this. And so I brought up my phone and I was like, RIP, I guess. And it just kind of became a job. That became a thing. And now it's become a thing. And I think I die on the internet like every other week. So when I actually die, I'm going to throw people for loop. Like, you see, even now you said when I actually die, like, I'm like, I get the chills. Like, I can't even say anything

like that. I worked in medicine. Oh, is it because of that? Yeah. I, I, you work, I want to have the most respect for people who donate their body to science, but we worked in a cadaver lab. Yeah. So you study on human bodies. And you almost have to face your own mortality then. So it's something that like I'm, again, I joke to understand and make sense of. Yeah. So, it's something that like the more I joke about it, the more I understand it and make sense of it. We'll be right back after the break. I'm so excited to do this ad for Little Spoon because I love Little Spoon. I have a freezer full of Little Spoon right now because I'm so obsessed with their

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getting hit by a car today. I did. What made you think of this concept? This girl was dancing in the street, like on a crosswalk, and I was like, yo, I wouldn't do that in New York. Yeah. Like, there's some crazy drivers. And all you do is you cut out the car, you do a little overlay and you go, like, This. Oops, sorry. Didn't mean. You're like teaching people how to do it at home. Yeah, I'm teaching people how to edit.

Fake at him, but no, you're editing, by the way. So I sat next to you at the time dinner and you made us do a TikTok with you. Of course. We were forced. We didn't want to, but we did it. And the way you were cross posting was crazy. Yeah, I'm a monster. Like, like a monster.

Like she was like on threads on fucking whatever YouTube shorts. I'm like, real. And I was like, what? You were cross posting. like an insane person. And you're so on it. So even that night, like when you had the idea to do the thing, did that idea come before we sat down at the dinner? We did or did. So you were just sitting there being like, I want to do this video. Get in with me. Yeah. My brain kind of thinks in like short form comedy content. So yeah, I think I might need to go back to therapy. But no, I just

I love, I just love the internet. Like there's something about. And you do it all yourself, no? I do it all myself. Well, I have a management team. I don't want to like make it seem like I don't. don't have a management team. All of my videos are myself. All of the edits are me. All of the caption. Everything that's ever posted on any Haley Bailey account is me. It's, yeah. You can never be one of those people that's like hands over control. Yeah, somebody else posts for me. Or like edits for me. Because like half the time my videos don't make sense until I edit them. How do you deal with like competition in this world? Because you get a lot of opportunities. Like you've been to the Golden Globes. You've been to the, to the kids' choice awards. I love when I said that up.

That was the dopeest show too. That was funny, because you went a little viral for that too with wearing the slime dress. Yeah. People love that. But I'm assuming, and I know how it is in this business, which is like, it doesn't matter how much success you have. You can see somebody doing something that you want to do. Yeah. And even though you've done other cool shit. So how do you deal with that? Like, do you get that feeling if you see other people? And it's funny. I used to get that when I was modeling. Because I was so, I think, insecure with the way that I looked that whenever another girl would succeed at something in modeling, I was like, dang it. And I would compare myself to her. But I think, again, like comedy kind of saves me. I think in this industry, there's room for

everybody. Truly, there are so many jobs. There are so many opportunities. If I'm getting them, anyone can get them. So, like, I don't get that anymore because I think I've, the things I've been able to accomplish, I never, ever imagined in a million years I would ever get the chance to do. So I'm just stoked to be doing it. Yeah. I don't. I, yeah.

You don't have that. No, but I did in modeling because I was so insecure. Yeah. And I hear you, maybe you feel like I know that I do good shit. I know that I post funny videos. How do you deal with? Are you obsessed with, like, is this? going viral? Is this getting engagement? Is it getting likes? Could it ruin your day if a video

you worked on so hard? Doesn't fucking do well. Like algorithm, yeah, that's hard. Yeah, I can't lie. Like, of course. It's like, it weighs on your mental because you're like, oh my God, it's over, flopper. Dang it. But I think that that's just normal and natural, right? It's like I, I'm, I have imposter syndrome a lot of the time because I never thought this would be my life. And so I feel like if I pinch myself too hard, I actually might wake up and I'll be back in like St. Cloud, Minnesota, like doing medicine, which would be fine, you know? I enjoyed that and I found joy in that. So, yeah, whenever your stuff that you put out doesn't do as well, you always want to look at it and say, like, why? Am I missing the mark? Am I not understanding what's funny? Am I not understanding

culture? And it's more like, I need to go back to the drawing room and reflect and just be a better But like, it's the algorithm? Sometimes on TikTok it is. If people have been, like, spam reporting you. Yeah. There's a thing in TikTok, make sure that you don't have any branded content flags. Yeah. You're welcome.

It will suppress your account. Okay. But on any of the other social media accounts, no, it's just how humans behave and interact with your piece of content. So they're getting hit by a car doing. I think it's doing great. I haven't even checked, actually. I'm like, I actually saw a video of you recently on the confidence guy.

Oh, yes. David. He's fabulous. Yeah. Yeah. Lovely. So was that a rant? Totally random.

Because I was like, I had to ask you today. Totally random. You saw you on the street? That's why I literally, I was coming from a casting and I was flashing my titties to the world. I felt so bad. Why because you weren't wearing a bra? I wasn't wearing a bra.

Wait, what kind of casting? Like modeling or acting? It was like this thing for, I was, I mean, why did I say casting? A fitting. A fitting. I was coming from a fitting. And it was with Mark Bauer. I think it was for, I'd have to look at the date.

No, so you weren't wearing, I just was trying to picture why you would I was not wearing a bra because I literally just walked out. So you went like this? So I was like, oh my gosh, because I can't be just like guns ablazing. I mean, some people are. And all the comments are like, where's her bra? Oh, really? Oh, really?

I'm like, no. Was that your ex in it, that Kyle guy? That was one of my exes. Okay. Yeah. Because I know you're talking about an ex recently too. Yeah, that was my most recent ex. Okay.

Yes. In the video. In the video. So right now you're single. Right now I'm single. And ready to? No. I don't know.

No, you know, I've, again, I have a bad picker. I just, like, keep picking them bad. Yeah, I've had some amazing people in my life, so I don't want to, like, shade all of that. Yeah. I just, I tend to be very trusting when people tell me things almost to the point of, like, I will believe their delusions because I'm like, nah, they would never want to lie to me. But what do you fall for, like a bad, like, what's the type that you keep falling for? They paint themselves like they are somebody that, like, is no longer a fuck boy and have

understood like how they're pay, how they've hurt people in the past. And now like they want to be a better person. And I'm like, I totally get that. I've made mistakes in my life. I've, you know, wronged people. I've said mean things before. Like I committed in my life when kind of right after I was saved from my abusive relationship to really trying to be like the best person I could be. And so I understand when somebody hits that point in their life where they're like, you know, I need to be a good person. And so I, I, believe them when they tell me. So you like people that like were bad boys look like they're saved, look like they might be like on a, okay. So you like a little edge. I like somebody that that has

life experience and understands the complexities of life and that like just because you did one wrong thing one time it doesn't make you a bad person. I like people who have empathy and I think somebody that's gone through a lot of struggle and has made it out on the other side a better person understands all those things. Yeah. It's just I forget that if they're still in their bad person era, they'll lie to you about all that. But what are the, like, are, are, are these people, or some of these men, one of these men, using you for your, for your clout, for your faint? Like, I hope not.

Okay. I hope that somebody would never do that. Yeah. Because I'm very honest. Like, when I started dating my ex, I looked him in the eyes and I was like, if you are not healed, please leave me alone. Like, I am in a place where I am so confidently me and I'm so, like, sure of myself almost. that I know though

that I fall in love really fast and hard and I could very easily be hurt in a second by somebody like wronging me and I know that about myself and so I was honest with him and was like please if you are not healed

no judgment go do your thing go figure it out just don't include me in it and when somebody looks to you in the eyes and says yes I'm healed I would never do that to you you want to believe them and I don't ever want to say

he was using me for views because I don't know his heart. I have no idea. Does it feel like he did that? Yes. Maybe that isn't the case. So I don't want to sit up here and be like, he used me for views because that might just be my anger and my pain coming out to attack someone who that might actually not be the reason. Would it be attractive to date somebody without like a presence on social media at all? Yeah. Either actually. Because I know some of the best people I know are on social media. Some of the best people I know have no social media. Right. It's completely person dependent. Right. So right now we're taking, are we like, you're living here a single life? I'm living my single life, but I did

download Hinge the other day just for fun. And swipe, swipe, swipe. The voice prompts are so fun. Wait, wait there, I don't know anything. You're talking me like, I know what happens on the voice prom. Oh yeah. So there's this app called Hinge, right? Yeah. There's Raya, which we all know what Raya is. Are you on Raya? I am on Raya, but like, I heard that it's like kind of like, it's like it'll match me to somebody beautiful and funny, but they're, like, in Sweden. And I'm like, yo, how... Oh, it's like no location. Yeah.

Oh, it's not location based. It's like global. Yeah. So I'm like, as much as like, you're fabulous. Yeah. Do I have time to like fly out to Sweden? Yeah. All the time.

I'm one of those people. So like, I'd be out in sweet. I'd be moving to Sweden before I know it. Probably shouldn't do that. So I downloaded Hinge because that's what all my friends are on. And like, I've seen it on TikTok where girls like act out these voice prompts from men. And they have the option to like send voice notes just. like on an iPhone or like on a Samsung or whatever.

And I be sending voice notes. So I hope that nobody be screen recording them. Wait, stop. Maybe they are. I don't know. Wait, what are the prompts? Like, what do you like to do? Yeah, they'll be like the craziest day of your life for like three truths and a lie.

Yeah. And do you put on there who you are like your Instagram and everything? No. I mean, some people put their handle. It's not like Raya where it like says it underneath. Oh, okay. I got you. I got you.

But yeah, no. It's just like a fun. It's been really fun. So what are your 2026 goals because you've done so much already and you've hit up like crazy events, Matt, huge celebs, like created amazing content. So what are you looking forward to in 2026? Man, just like everything that I, I've gotten in this life, in like this type of life, like through content, I'm just so unbelievably grateful for, truly.

Like from the bottom of my heart, I am like so stoked to be given the chance to do what I do. I wake up every day and I'm like, what should I film? And I'm like so crazy about it. But it's because I love it so much. You are. You can tell. Yeah, I'm a psycho when I made you guys filmed that TikTok. I'm like, I have a TikTok idea. Let's film it.

Just more of that. Yeah. I would love though for more people, I think, to get to know me. I have a hard time talking about like things that have happened in my life or like people in my life. because I just, I want to make sure I do right with my platform and I don't want to say the wrong thing. So sometimes I communicate too heavily with comedy. So I'd love in 2026 for people to get to know me without maybe like me through sketch form, just like actually me. Well, this is a good start.

This is a good start. Well, thank you so much for coming. Of course. Thanks for having. Everybody, if you don't already follow her, because she doesn't have enough followers. it's only like 18 million in every platform. Haley fucking Bailey. Thank you for coming.

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