Not Skinny But Not Fat - CLAIRE HOLT: MARATHONS, MOM LIFE, AND LIVING IN FLORIDA

Episode Date: December 17, 2024

My gorgeous Australian actress and friend, Claire Holt is back! We discuss her epic time on the NYC marathon, being a mom of three (and why gentle parenting sucks), living in Florida and more!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars from my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hey guys. Welcome to Notting. episode of Not Skinny, Bonafat. Happy Tuesday, if you're listening right when it comes out. I can't believe. I can't believe we're in December. Like, what is happening? Where has this year gone? I'm just accepting. I'm like, okay, September. Okay, November. Okay. Where are we? What is life? If you overthink it, you'll just be anxious. So don't. Like me, ignore it all. Some exciting news as

of last week. Selina Gomez is engaged. I'm so happy for her. I feel like I haven't been happy for someone in a long time like that it's like when justin beber and haley beaver had a baby right it's like cool and exciting or like when they announce a pregnancy but it's like yeah we know that they're married we know that they're you know trying you know we know that we knew that they wanted to have a family so it's like oh cool they did it that's great like so happy for them now it's still shocking to me like when i'm like reminder haley beaver has a baby jason beber has a baby but with this engagement it's like they've been dating for a year we know they're super in love but like it's not like an expected get engaged tomorrow type of thing. But I love that their story was this. I love that

it's like people felt like it was unconventional because he's not your typical, you know, hot Hollywood guy. I love that he's Jewish, as you know. I love that he adores her. I love that he cooks for her. I love that it seems like he makes her so happy. It seems like a non-toxic, super healthy relationship where the guy worships the girl and she loves him back, but he probably loves her a little bit more. Like love that. To me, that's... what it should be. So I'm so happy for her. It did look like he proposed to her on some sort of, like, set. It's probably like an inside thing. You know, it was like this picnic. It looked like on a set. There was some Taco Bell, which we love. She then posted a clip of herself calling someone and like literally just being so excited about the ring, which I feel like is so sweet. Like this woman is a billionaire. And here she is getting so excited over a diamond ring she could probably buy for fancies. You know what I mean? For shits and giggles. Like I just. freaking love it. I just think it's so special. I'm so happy for her. I think she's been dressing so cute lately. Like, whatever she's doing is working. I'm just super happy for

Selena. The other breaking news last week was James Kennedy arrested for domestic violence. This was after the Kathy Hilton Christmas party. The thing is, people are like, want me to say something about it? I don't know. Like, Kristen Doty was like, finally, which is like, okay, Kristen. We know James can get a little rowdy. Nick Vial, which I'll never say his last name, right, Vial, Vial, said that he saw him at the Christmas party. At first, he was, like, nice, introduced

Nick and Nick's wife to, like, his friend. Then he saw him, like, screaming at his friend. But then this domestic violence dispute, the police responded to a Burbank residence, don't forget, Burbank, don't forget, planes flying up above around 11.30 p.m., regarding an argument between a man and a woman,

that's all we know. It was a term. that it was a domestic incident. And that's all we know. He was then released after posting a $20,000 bond. The thing is we don't know. So we don't know now what went down. We'd love to know. I'm sure we'll get more info as we go on.

Of course, it sounds like it probably is Ali Weber. I hope that she's okay. I hope that if he did something effed like that, that she ends it with him. She seems like such a lovely, lovely gal. She's coming out with a podcast, I think. as well, like an astrology pod. Anyway, you guys, into today's

episode, onto today's episode, I'm so excited because it is my friend, is an actress, it is just the loveliest woman alive, like, how are you so hot and nice and kind and cool and funny? It's really unfair. It's Claire Halt. You might know her from the Vampire Diaries,

the originals. She's just the best, and she's finally back. She's in person. The last time we did this pod was a few years ago over Zoom, and we've been wanting to do another one. And especially in person, it was so fun. It was after she ran the marathon because she's a freaking beast.

She ran it in like one minute, something crazy. Very unrelatable, right? But she just makes it relatable because she's so freaking cool. Anyway, here's my episode with the lovely Claire Holt. Claire Holtz. Hey. You're so cute. Hi.

Do you know you're on in 2021? Yeah, I know. I've thought about it a lot. You know what the title was? What? Hot and humble. Oh, that's so nice. Nice.

Hot and humble. I am so embarrassed. Why? Because I feel like I was like trying to be some parenting expert or something. Oh, we did heavy parenting. I've learned a lot to sin about. I did these things where I was like, do you want to leave in two minutes or three minutes from the park? And now I'm like, get in the car.

Wait, you were saying that to me. You were giving me advice. Yeah, I think I was giving you advice or something. I'm horrified. So what do we do now at the park? No, I won't leave. No, honestly. I don't know what to do.

Get in the car. And they listen, though? your little kids who like speak poetry don't even pretend claire you guys don't follow claire holt on instagram and see her just the cutest kids like pretty yummy and then when you post you know the things they say shakespearean i mean i don't know if they're shakespearean what is the thing james said what did he say that day what it was like to his brother like you're the light of my life oh we'll shine so bright together where did that come from is that in a book okay maybe a TV show or something. I don't want to like take credit for that. I do read stories to him, but they're

like, the book with no words and, you know, Good Night Constructuring site. It's not, I'm not reading him Shakespeare. Right. It's probably from the iPad, which is worse. We will shine so bright together. He's obsessed with his favorite. That is not happening in the Spider-Man fucking killer, like, I don't know what Noah is watching. Yeah, same. It doesn't come from me. I don't say that. And what did she say? Oh, she's doing a grateful list. That is something that we do, but it was, yeah, I know. What's a grip every day? She's a mafia boss.

Like, I don't want people to think that that happens all the time. She scares me. I know. You used to say that she was, your joke used to be that she, like, isn't into you. She's into me now. I know, you said that. I mean, part of the reason I have these hideous nails is so she likes me. I know.

But when she wasn't into you and she was more into your husband? Yeah, yeah, that was, you know, it was half of me. Yeah. So what was it like, though? Was she like, I just want dad? Yeah, I couldn't do anything with her. It had to be her father. Stop.

Yeah. Well, what do you do with that? Cry in a corner and just say, okay. No, I, it's a phase, you know? Everything's a phase. That's what I've learned. Everything's a phase. You think you know what you're doing and you don't know what you're doing. You have to change.

You say, you go full gentle parenting and then you turn around and you're like a drill sergeant. Gentle parenting is so dumb and I can't believe I was influenced to do it by my sister. Yeah. Or I think I'm inherently would have been like that. I thought my mama says, I thought you would be so much. much tougher. You're trying to be someone who would be tough. Yeah, I'm not.

I'm not. That's what my husband says. He's like, you're the tough one between both of us and you're not even deaf. Like, that's a problem. It's not too late to change. You could do a hard pivot. You think? Yeah.

I do sometimes. Well, I just want to tell people that Claire made me have another baby. I did. You did. I aggressively told you to have another baby, didn't I? You really did. Aren't you glad? Of course, I'm glad.

But you can't make me do a third. He is a hot baby. You know it. You can't make me have a third. Yeah, I can. No, you can. She's already trying, by the way, you guys. The third is like bliss.

He's the best baby. He's so chill. He's so sweet. He just fits right in. You don't, it's the best. Stop. You're obsessed with him. Obsessed.

He's so cute, Ford. He's going to be one next weekend. That's wild. I saw that. He's also a hot baby. Yeah. He has like a manly face. He's just like a, he's just like a,

He does feel like an old man. Really? He's so yummy. And everyone got along right away. Everyone got along. Stop. Well, James was always obsessed with him. Elle was like, well, you know, we'll see.

See how you go. And now she's into him, not as much as James, but they all like, you know. But three is still harder. Like, people say when you have three, it might as well be seven. Getting in the car, like getting on the flight. You know what I, well, yeah, that's hard. And you're outnumbered. There's a lot of bags.

And you're outnumbered. You're outnumbered. it's harder on your relationship because there's just more and you have to like divide and conquer one has two one has one or you like

it's harder and to have three like on your own at any point it feels a lot more than having to win have you been with all three by yourself yeah for like a day at a time

it's not I haven't done it for a week I know I'm not sure I'd survive that it is pretty Craig that's so embarrassing to say that I could have survived I know like my mom did it in her whole life

how did they do it how did they do it And now I'm, like, gone for a day I, like, make sure, like, someone's with Lenny So your own can be just with, and I'm like, what is this? I know. Fucking shit.

Like, my mom was with the three of us. But do you also, like, I remember as kids, we were always getting hurt because we were like. No one was paying attention to us. I mean, yeah, we were doing wild things. Like, my little sisters, like, you used to pick me up from daycare. Yeah. And I'm like, when I was five.

Like, like, just, it's not okay. We just go out. I'm like, wait, you were two, I was five. I was picking you up. You're fine. They released you to me. I'm not kidding. This was the ages.

So I think that the way it worked was like it was less like. Yeah, it wasn't as well, I'm sure it was as stressful. But like I think everyone was just more chill. Like we would go out in the morning and like play in random like forests. Yeah. Come home. No phone. No phone.

They had no idea where we were. No idea. Could die in a pond in a forest. Yeah. They wouldn't know. Right. I'd love to be that chill. So.

chill. I don't have it in me. Anyway, but you're not debating a fourth baby anymore. I am a little bit. Stop, clear, stop. For realsies? No. Every week, I go back and forth. What does Andy say? I mean, he would do it. He loves being dad. He's an excellent dad. Most of the time, I'm a hard pass. And then they'll get me. And they'll be like one day where I'm weak and I just can't have this be my last baby. So you're not even saying no. You're not even saying for sure know. I'm like 98% though. Oh, the 2% is going to get you. You're going to post a poll. I'm going to get bored. I'm going to get bored because I'm not marathon training. I'm like, I guess I've got to have another baby. No, I can't be pregnant again. Wait, your pregnancies you don't

like or remind me what the pregnancies are hard for you. In what way? I was really sick this last time for the first try. Actually, for the whole time I was sick. And then it's just so uncomfortable, painful this time. I had gestational hypertension. So I was delivered early. It was just like a much tougher experience. I was older, too, so I'm sure that. How old are you now? Yeah, but if I had another one. No, I was older than a time.

I didn't remember we were the same exact age. Yeah, we are. When's your birthday? June 11, we're Gemini's. What? Do you know your moon and rising? No. Okay, do it.

I got so into it. It's like on one of those apps, but I don't remember it. I wonder what it is. Could it be Leo? Really? I don't know. A Leo rising or is it? Leo Moon.

No idea. Could have made that. I'm really into it. I'm a sag. Saj. Sag. Sorry, guys. Saj moon.

Yeah, Saj. I'm a cancer rising in Saj moon, which I don't. Cancer is like the maternal apparently side of me. And the Saj apparently is the like gregarious outgoing side of me. I thought that. I was giving way too much credit to Gemini's thinking. Yeah, that's what I thought. I'm just like amazing.

So fun. Life at the party. So apparently it's not. a bunch of other stuff. But oh my God, all my favorite people are literal Gemini. Yeah, same. All of them. It's wild. I should start really like before meeting people just like being like, are you, you're not Gemini. Someone like pitches to come on the pod. Yeah. Sorry, watch your star sign. Literally. Is there a boring one? I don't remember June 11, so we're really the same player. Yeah, so close. It's because I don't do a whole birthday month

like you. Do I do a birthday month? I'm so lucky. By the way, I want to know how you feel about this. My sister's birthday is coming up for my birthday my family okay so my mom's so funny she comes over one day I show her that this brand wants to send me like my kids names like when after Lenny was born it's a really gorgeous necklace no one does it you guys no one puts their kids names anyway I thought it was so cute I showed my mom it's with like diamond she's like starts cracking up I'm like what's so funny what's funny she's like nothing I'm like what is happening I get it out of her that my sisters were planning me that for my birthday, but not with diamonds. Goodbye. So I was like, have them cancel it. Now with diamonds, I'm getting this. Like, so cute. No. They didn't end up buying me a birthday

gift. Oh. Because this was not an option. So now another sister's birthday is coming up. My younger sister was an angel, as you know, comes to me in his life. She's an angel. Such an angel. And everyone in my family loves you. Like, I tell you all in today, like, I'm having Claire Honey. He's like, I love Claire. Oh, I follow them all. I'm obsessed. She's so cute. I saw your older sister in the park once with the twins. And I went. wanted to say something, but she looked busy. Last time I ran the marathon, she was in the park. Which part? I don't know. Oh, like Central Park? She was in New York. In Central Park, maybe. Yeah, but she had the twins and it felt like a lot. How didn't you tell me?

I think I did. I think maybe you were coming to meet me and then you didn't come. Right. It was that day. So it was for sure Central, because he probably weren't all the way on the east side. No. Oh, that's so funny. Anyway, I love them all. I know. You're the cutest. Love them. But I was saying so, oh, so her birthday's coming up. My little sister is like, what are we getting Alice and I was like, you think I'm getting our gift? You guys didn't get me a gift. No, I'm not. How do you feel about that? I'm not really into gifts for older people. You know, like, I feel like the gifts need to stop at 10. No, okay, I'll give you to like 18. Like your husband, though. Husband, obviously all the time. Yeah. I won't get him one, but he has to get

them for me. Yeah. Especially like Valentine's Day, those things. Is he good at birthday gifts? He's good. He's good. I do like drop hits, though. Like jewelry? Yeah. Yeah, it's all jewelry. That's the thing with guys, it's like, once they can, like, buy you jewelry, then it's just every birthday will be happy. It's a diamond ear, inside a bracelet. Yeah, I'm not saying no. Like, it's all good. But yeah, you don't buy them gifts either.

I don't buy mine gifts either. Sometimes I do sentimental stuff. I'm like that, which is so much more work, to be honest. Yeah, like little books and, and, like, and yeah, it's a lot more work. I wish I bought jewelry. And he loves it. He loves it. He's very sad.

Like, he's, I can't tell about him if he's, he's really, I can't tell about him if he, he's like a jelly like possessive or if he's totally not no no he could do with being a bit more jealous to be honest like if you were like running with zach in the marathon he'd be like oh that's wow that's nice but a nice pacer so he doesn't get jelly at all no and it's so like it's really sweet honestly to to be with someone that's that confident in themselves yeah like they don't he's really sensitive like he's so soft he'll cry in movies he's going to be mad at me for saying He cries in movies. He cried in crazy rich agents.

Oh, that's a specific one. I don't know. He always cries in that. Yaron cries in voice competitions. Oh, so I get that, though. Because today he was like, literally, this is so morbid. But we're drinking our coffee in the morning. He's like, my grandma's still alive if that's crazy.

She's 95. And I was like, that is crazy. Will you cry if she dies? And he was like, I don't think so. And I was like, what? You animal, you cry in singing competitions. So he was like, I don't know, it's just like, she's very old. I don't see her that much.

I don't think I'll cry about that. And I was like, you literally cry a stranger is singing like true colors. Like, I don't understand. True colors. Favorite song. You know that song? That's his favorite song. Oh, my God, he's so cute.

I need to know how, also I told you about my husband that your Halloween costume. Yeah. Yep. Was so good, The Incredibles. Really went for it. But I hate Halloween. I cannot stand it. I hate it.

I don't want to trick-a-treat. I don't want to trick-treat. to hand candy out to kids or brats. I don't want to deal. I actually rather hand it out than go door to door. Also, I want to say, you're in Florida now in this season?

Never remember where she is. In New York, no one opens the door anymore. So they just put the candy outside. Oh, outside. But that ruins the whole purpose. I know it does. Trick or treat.

Right. Now it's like, I did put it outside, just outside. You didn't open the door? I manned it outside for a little while. Actually, James did. It was very funny. He was so strict.

So take one And then he started to get bored That it wasn't going fast enough So he was like Take one of each It's very cute But do they open the door in Florida? No

I don't think so I think everyone's outside That sucks It's a bit of a security risk Don't you think Just randomly opening the door To like Thousands of masked people

Maybe I don't know I think people do that Because we're just not social anymore Maybe So you went as a whole family To Trick A Tree the whole family. Ford put the little mask

on. I couldn't believe it. So who wanted the Incredibles, James? James. Well, we had like a little dialogue about Incredibles, Ninja Turtles, but then there weren't enough Ninja Turtle so we couldn't do that. Noah was supposed to be a Ninja Turtle Raff, and he didn't. Fucker. I ended up buying Lenny one too. Like, for the photo. We didn't get the photo.

But he refused to do the photo. He used to put it on. That's why gentle parenting's failed you. Right. Mm-hmm. I know. What the fucking thing on, put a motherfucker. That's what I want to say sometimes. And then I'm like, okay, don't put it on. Wow, you're so...

No, not like that, but like... Does he get in trouble? You don't get in trouble? Okay, I tried to like put him on time out the other day and close the door and he came out running and was like, that was so fun. Let's do it again. Stop. And I'm like, wow.

Oh, no, my kids are scared of the timeout. Stop. And I know you're not, but there's so many experts out there and it really drives me nuts because I don't know which way I'm supposed to go and I'm probably causing irreparable harm by like doing these things, but I'm just like, your iPad's gone for a week. I'll take it away for a week. And they're like, have you ever done that, though? Okay, so they know the consequences real.

And he's a little more strict than me with the follow-through. Oh, so he's followed through before. He is like the master of follow-through, and I, it works. Wow. That's the thing. Look at me giving plenty parenting advice again. I want to hear so embarrassed. No, first of all, the reels, like, this is better than reels.

Because with reels, like, anyone can just put out anything. It's wild. My mom will be like, well, did you see what I said? I'm like in the random reel. I know. How am I supposed to just... Do you watch every reel your mom said? None and none that my husband sends me.

Neither I open. I'll be like, ooh, new sending messages. Nope, no. You don't even though. I know that they're reels I don't care about. But do you send them to reels, like funny ones? No. I'll just send something if it's like so on point.

Like I sent my husband, he cracked up for a day. I'm like, this is why I send you stuff, open it. Okay. Because I sent him like, there was like this reel, like this guy like, just like, it was making fun about kids. I'm sure your kids sit at the table and eat meals. They sit at a little table, yeah. Of course they do. So there was this real for parents that can keep it together of kids that like you're feeding them while they're like jumping off the walls or like on the floor. Yes. Yes. That one was funny. I can't believe you saw that.

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Are you not? Wait, is she not? You are? Come by with one ball. Well, yeah, I am. Basically, no, I'm retired now. 345? 3.42 yesterday. Which, by the way, Neve Shulman. He's amazing, though. He got four, though, babe.

Yeah, but he broke his neck. Who cares? It's funny because my sister came to me and was like, Neve Shulman, like, did four. And I was like, Claire did. with a broken neck three months ago. So that's really like a two-hour marathon. Like he would have done better? Oh, he would have done. He's very fast. But I did a good time for me. I was pretty happy with it. 342. 32. Faster than I ran the last one three weeks ago. You were so upset about

the last one. Oh, the one in New York two years ago I was very upset about. It was very hard. Oh, so your redemption was New York two years ago. Yes. So the one in Chicago I was very happy with. And it was a slower time, but I almost felt better because I'd had another kid. And I just didn't think I could do it. Almost, almost a year. But yeah, I didn't think I could do it, though. I really was, like, so full of doubt the entire summer. I was like, why am I doing this?

This is a disaster. And then I did it. And it felt really good. This one, I wanted to have fun. And then I got a bit competitive. And I also got to run 20 miles with the icon Jennifer Connolly. And she's really fast. I saw that.

Was she so cool? Oh, my God. The coolest. How old is she? I think she said she's about to be 54. First marathon. absolutely smashed it. She was running so fast. What was her time? She ran a 345. Wow. Amazing for her first marathon. That's crazy. Yeah. It's your third then. My third. Yeah, my third. I'm retired.

So what does it mean one? You won Chicago or no? No, I didn't win. Okay, just there was a headline that said that. Someone broke the world record two hours and nine minutes. Certainly didn't win that. Are there people that are winning it? Yes. Like the winner. The winner. The winner. The winner. Woman, I think she ran two hours and nine minutes. She was the first woman to run under 210. Crazy fast. Do you know how fast that is? Can you walk it? Yeah. Are there people that walk it? People walk it. It's a long way to walk, though. How, so how many hours would it be walking? I don't know, like six or seven, probably. It's too long to walk. Who was tracking you? You mean, like, were people following me on the course? You can, no, can. Oh, anyone can track. You can put the name in it and anyone can see how you go.

Yeah. I'll know that for next time. running again but that's yeah you're never running again i'm saying that now no you know i was so inspired by the blind guides yesterday the people guiding the blind runners and so i thought oh maybe maybe that would be what i would do next you would guide the blind love to do that we deal with this woman she would guide the blind i don't know what to do was doing yesterday oh it's amazing but it's so when you're running trying to make it dirty like that's why she wants to do it's true no he's so amazing but you they come up, right? So you're running this race and then there's someone in front going blind runner, blind runner, please move, please move. And then there's a blind runner, which is

so amazing in and of itself. And then there's somewhere else like attached to them with the and they're just running the whole thing together. How did you get into this? I was really, to be honest with you, I had kids. I had made this commitment after I had kids that I wanted to be with them, right? And so I wasn't traveling so much with work. I wasn't having that like stimulation from my career in the same way that I was before kids. And I felt like a loser. I did. I was just like, I'm doing nothing. I'm offering nothing. I'm not achieving anything. And so I just started to run. And then I was like, you know what? I'm going to sign up for a marathon. That's going to be like my goal because this was before Ford or after?

This was before Ford, the first one. Okay. And so I signed up for the New York Marathon. I ran it and had like a pretty shitty experience for us. It was really rough. And then I swore I would never do another one. And then I had Ford and I had the same kind of feeling. I was like, I need to do something. I need to have a goal. I feel kind of lost. And so I signed up to run with Boston Children's Hospital in Chicago.

How did that come about? Did you reach up? So I had run for them in 2002. I am very, like, it's the most amazing hospital. One of my neighbors, they had a child with really severe heart condition when he was born. And he had five open heart surgeries. the first year of his life. And Boston Children's Hospital saved his life. He's this amazing little boy. I love him so much. And so I became connected to the hospital and ran the first one

for them and have learned so much more since then and realized like there's a massive crisis in childhood mental health. And it's not really talked about as much because it's a scary thing to talk about like childhood suicide. Like did you even imagine? No. And so I wanted to raise money for that division specifically. And so that was Chicago. And then the opportunity came up to run New York, and I was never going to not do Chicago because they'd made that commitment. And then I was like, I'll just do both, I guess. Like, see if I can do it.

And you raised how much? I raised $136,000 this time for the mental health division, which is awesome. And you did like a Mabelene thing. Yeah, I did. Just as important. No, I'm just kidding. I did this one with Mabelene. And it was, they were amazing too.

Like, it was just really an awesome experience to, like, have something set a Do they, like, sponsor you? Yeah. Oh, it's like you're basically, like, Nadal of the Marathon. That's what I've been telling myself. I'm the Nadal of Marathons. Claire Holt, you are hard on yourself as a person. Yeah, I am.

Like, I've known you for a few years now. And, like, I just feel like that's yourself. If you follow her and you know, like, yourself deprecating stuff, like, it's so funny. But it's also. No, it's real. No one can imagine it's, like, real because you're gorgeous. Thank you. Seemingly perfect family.

I feel so uncomfortable hearing this. that's deal with it okay but you are hard on yourself I am I know I don't know I don't know if it's like a product of growing up in Australia and they have that tall poppy syndrome where like you know and if if you are too much or you're you want to be successful or whatever it is you know it's it's kind of like frowned upon I love Australians I love Australia they're like they just they respect humility like they really want people to be humble and like being seemingly like a bigger, better deal or having or feeling great about yourself is not always seen as a good thing. That's what I love about America. Americans are like, yes, they're so proud of themselves.

They're like so into other people achieving stuff. It's really cool. Yeah. It's why I never left. But yeah, I just, I always think I'm a bit of a loser. I can't believe you would ever think that. Thanks. But why was it when you stopped doing acting stuff a little bit? I think. Did you complete, like, are you doing auditions still? Like, what's going on? But the problem is I don't have a husband who can like just pack up and leave and go to like Croatia with me for four months. And I would never want to be away from my kids for that long. And I wouldn't ask him to if I took them. So it's kind of like I feel pretty limited in what I would be able to do.

Like you would have to be like your agent would send you something. You'd have to be like, but does it shoot in L.A.? Like you would have to make sure where it shoots. Exactly. Like it and nothing shoots in Florida. I mean, I live in nothing. I live in Miami. But you love Florida.

Love it. I never thought I would say that. Truly. And your whole life, like, are you there more than in L.A? Yeah, the school year, I'm there. The whole school year you're there. Yeah. Like nine months.

And you love Florida. Love it. Where were you in the hurricane? We were there, but it didn't like get it. We had a tropical storm. We didn't get the full hurricane. Oh, the Miami didn't get. But it is scary.

Yeah, because I was like, you didn't post anything about that. Yeah, no, we didn't get smashed. Huh. But seeing you run even your training in Florida where it's a thousand degrees, it was really rough. How do you train there? It just is really hard. And you just do it. And your body gets used to it after a little bit of. Have you ever fainted running? I felt like I was going to faint yesterday actually. Really? Same thing happened. It was chilly. Thank God it was like nice out. Have you ever run a marathon in like 100 degrees? Please don't. No, no. I did run 18 miles as a training run leading up to it and it was like 3 o'clock in the after. it in 90 degrees outside or something.

And that was maybe the worst run of my life. Please never do that. I know you're scared of the, you said that. I'm scared of the dying from the running. Well, I thought I was going to maybe die after I spoke to my dad. My dad's a cardiologist and I called him yesterday. I was like, oh, I got really dizzy at mile 21 and like I had to stop. I felt like I was going to faint.

He was like, well, why did you get dizzy? What'd your heart do? So I was pretty high. He was like, well, I was like, maybe it was the sodium or something. He was like, no, it was probably something to do with your heart. I was like, am I going to die, Dad? Oh, my God. He's very chill.

Is running good for you or not? I think it is. I think exercise is good for you. Okay, there's exercise and there's running. I mean, you don't... It's not good for your knees. No, honestly, my Achilles today is so busted. I've got the ugliest compression socks on of all time.

Maybe Gen Z would like this, actually. Maybe. They love the dad. Okay, you do love Jen Z's opinion. They do love their opinion. And they give it to you. They give it to me. some of them will tell me like straight up if it's not it too which i respect these gen z people coming

from i'm not sure where are they i don't see them on the street no like where are they come like i was trying to think who are your i feel like they're a loyal fan base like who are they are they people that watched you when you were younger younger on the show are they tvd people are they new tvd people because they're new because it's lived forever hasn't it the the mermaid what the mermaid show has really lasted longer than I thought. So Regina said she grew up in Mexico. She says it was always on her TV and she's like five years old. Oh my gosh.

Isn't that crazy? She said every time I would turn on, there was H2O. It went to a lot of places. And honestly, I'm not thrilled with the way I looked at 16. It's so cute. I just watched that. Apparently it's like going viral now. Yeah, I know.

The nar. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that's fun. Which what was it? Oh, no. Clare. Perfect. Nailed it.

Absolutely nailed it. Give this woman a job. First of all, speaking of jobs, like, acting is hard. Yeah. Yeah. No, because everything that you're saying, it's important for people to know why, like, how it works. Like, all these people that we're seeing, all these movie stars and whatever, they're flying to these places, living in them for months without their family. It can be lonely.

That's the thing that I think that maybe people don't realize because they think that you're, like, surrounded by a lot of people. whatever, it can be super lonely. And when I lived in Atlanta, I was, oh, so lonely. It was sad a lot. Because people were upset that you left the originals. I was really sad, though. Why did that happen? I think at the time, I just really struggled living there by myself. And I don't know, I just wanted to go back to L.A. so badly. Oh, it came from you, Marcel? Yeah. Really? They were awesome about it. I mean, they let me come back for years and they were really flexible with me. And I did another show right after that called Aquarius, and they would work with the schedule there.

And, like, they were really good to me, and I will always be grateful for that. But I just didn't want to be in Atlanta anymore. Really? Now I love Atlanta. Were you with Andy already at that point? No. Oh, I was kind of lame, Andy.

No, I was with some of the time. And I think that probably, like, had something to do with it. And all my friends were in L.A., and I just felt lonely. And I couldn't get past it, you know? Do you miss L.A. now that you're in Florida? I miss my sister and her kids. They're there. I don't miss L.A. with kids. I really like Florida with kids. Really? Love it. In what way?

They come home from school and like they jump in the pool the whole year or like we can go. Wait, are you complaining about L.A. weather? No. That's what sounds like. It is quite cold sometimes in L.A. though. People don't think it's cold it is. Okay. In the winter it's cold. Okay. We live like six minutes from the beach. It's just they're outside all the time and their scooters and like it's just like feels like a real And I don't know if I felt like that in L.A. And you made a whole like, you have like friends there. Yeah, I made friends. That's really hard to do as a grown up. Is it mom friends?

Mom friends. I mean, I feel like I've had to make new friends so many times in my life. Like when I first moved to America, I had to make new friends. Yes. And then I had to make new friends when I went to Atlanta. Then I had to make new friends when I went to Florida, which is kind of, it's harder to do the older you get. Yes. But I did. I made friends. good yeah but i love you know like when the more kids you have like you just they're your friends like they tell you they're not supposed to be your friends but what do you mean they tell you they're not supposed to be a friend i don't know what another real i think i saw a real oh my god would say don't be friends of other moms don't be friends with your kids oh your kids are your friends yeah my kids are my friends okay what you're like you're just weirdo your kids are your friends

i do tell noah he's my even though noah told me something so sad yesterday i'm trying to tell myself that it's like just he wasn't thinking but I was I was literally going to him like who's my favorite boy in the entire world who's a love of my life that I was doing he goes Lenny no my kids do that too really you don't love me as much as you love chuk that's what we call l chuk you don't love me as much as chuk or like I'm the worst person in the world I don't know where they get it but they do say it so that's what I'm so my husband he doesn't watch enough real so he'll be like he's just he's a kid like he's not And I'm like, he knows what he's saying.

Like, he chose to say Lenny and not me. Like, I don't think it's just like a brain. He thinks everything Noah says is a brain fart. I'm like, no, it's not. Like, he needs what he says. Like, they do things for reactions, right? You think? Like, they want a response from you.

And so I don't know how to do it right. My kids are definitely going to need therapy. I'm certain of that. But, like, I really, yeah. But I really love them. Like, they're not going to say my mom didn't love me. Right. She's going to say she love me too much.

She moved in with me in college. It was a bit weird. Do you think, well, you're lucky because you have a girl, too. But I think of the boys, like, we're going to have to be those boys' moms that aren't invited into the labor and delivery room. I think about that a lot. I have a solution. What? Orphan, wife.

Or, and or. What? It happened before. I'm not killing her parents. Orphan wave. You're just going to put out an ass. And, no, it just could happen. Like, oh, so sad.

Or. It happened before they met. Or, like, awful family. I step in. There you are. I'm the cool. That's, because I have no problem, like, in taking somebody in and, like, loving her, like, a daughter. But how are you going to find these people in the orphan wife?

We can't have somebody with a great family. That's what I'm telling you. Right. Well, but then do they have issues that they're going to take out in your son? That is true. But I think, like, what's more important? that you are best friends with the mom. Then me in the labor and delivery room.

Yeah. What if your besties with the mom? The wife? I can't deal with competition like that. It's too close. You know what I mean? I can't deal with like another great. Like imagine that's a whole other part of our life.

Do you think? You being competitive with James's wife's mom to who's more involved? I love my mother-in-law though. Like I would let her, I put probably let her in the room if she asked. And I'd let my mom. Okay. I'm trying to see how that relates. Like, like, if.

you might get a daughter-in-law who's really obsessed with you and wants you there. Right. Oh, even though your mom is grade two, you're saying. Yeah, great mom too. Oh. You might just get someone who really likes you. You're cool. That's what I'm saying. Oh, I don't need the mom to be dead. No, I can just like me. I think she needs to like me more. No, can marry a fan of yours or something.

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Yeah. I would like, I just, I panic that like, I'm going to go down that road and like really aggressively pursue something or go like, okay, that's it. Like, it's time for me again. And then I'm going to be the first day on a job and be like, my children. I've abandoned them. But I, you know what? I'm very like, woo-woo, the universe.

Like, and so I'm just going to put it out there, like the right thing comes. Well, Phoebe or BFF. Yeah. She did like amazing things. things this last year. Amazing that show. The boy swallows the universe. I was obsessed with it. Obsessed. So good. And she was unbelievable. I was like, I was like, you need to win awards for this. She was so good. And she came out to support you yesterday. Did she make an engagement announcement? She literally did. Yeah, she did. I'm like, have I, am I? No, she did. Yeah, she put the

pictures out. Yeah. That's amazing. That's a cool way to do it. Like, you know, she didn't like put emojis or anything. I would literally do it. opposite. I want to announce everything in my life. You struggle with that, I feel like, with like being too much, showing too much. Like, you want to be cool on Instagram, but you're... No, I can't be. But you are cool. I love you. I want to be cool so badly. I want to be like sheik, like, trendy fashion girl. No, but then I can't not... Think about how it might be cringy. Think about how it might be cringy, but also like, I want to tell everyone everything. You say nothing. I don't know what you're talking about. What have you shared

personally. Literally nothing. Really? I guess. You think you're oversharing? I think I overdo. Well, I think about how much I share my kids. We've talked about this. I panic about that sometimes. Yeah. Anyway, I think that like, I would want to emoji them. I would want, well, now I just worry. I worry that they're going to need therapy because I didn't emoji them. What do you think? I'm trying to think. I think, you know when I go viral ones and what is he? James asked me if he went viral ones. No, he did not. I swear to go.

Noah asked me something about subscribers, but I think that's not us. No, it's not us. Someone said something to them. No one doesn't know, right. No one doesn't know like what I'm filming him for quite sometimes, but he does watch sometimes things that they're like, like the button and like subscribe on YouTube. And then he said, I know, I need to get rid of it. I tried before and then he like found on the TV again.

Why don't you do what I did with the chat GPT Pokemon thing? What did you do? Oh, it really worked a treat. So my kid got introduced to Pokemon Go, not by me, and then became absolutely obsessed with it. Like, wanted to do it at all times. You couldn't even talk to him. He was like, Pokemon Go. And I had put this like app limit of 10 minutes a day or whatever on it.

And finally, I was like, no, no, no, I can't do this. So I was talking to my sister on the phone. And she was like, have Chat, GPT, write you a letter from the CEO of Pokemon Go. I saw that. Yeah, yeah. Saying that. There's no more. There's no more.

It's gone. So I did it. And I showed it to him and read it to him. And he was like, oh, man, all right. he fully bought it. I took it off. I forgot to take it off on the 31st when it was supposed to do. So on November 1st, he was like, Mom, it didn't get you a fan.

I was like, oh, I think they just gave kids one extra day as a Halloween present. Stop. So you're taking it away forever. It's gone forever. It's gone forever. And he is fine with it. So you're saying you weren't even going to limit it once a week. You fully decided to take it away.

I fully decided to take it away. And you could probably do that with YouTube. Or you could, like, write a letter from the, his favorite, from that plippy or something. The thing is, like, small steps, we got into a really bad habit at one point of allowing him to watch his iPad for like 10 minutes before bed. And I hated it. Every time we, like, one of us put him to sleep and we did the iPad, I felt like, this is so bad. I never went to sleep with TV. Yeah, me too.

And as an adult, like, never, ever, ever. How am I doing this to my kid? And it sat on me, sound of me. And then one day I, like, made up a story like that. I was like, we have no internet in the room and we can't do it. and watching him immediately accept it and it go from this is what we're doing

to him going to sleep without anything, just going to sleep. I'm like, oh my God, like you can literally make a decision. Put your foot down. Make up a lie so they fucking do it.

And it worked like if you guys have an issue, it works so well. Like maybe you didn't even need the letter. Just be like it's gone. I want to have the confidence to just be like, like, no. Yeah.

I struggle a little bit with that. Yeah. But then no internet. He's like, oh, no internet or however he's, he got it. He's so cute. So you're doing other stuff now, though. You're doing. Doing other stuff.

Claire's corner. The corner. Swipe up. Yeah. Listen, I just want to be busy and I want to do stuff and I want to be creatively fulfilled and I still want to like have work and interact with people, but I want to be a mom. Be a mom and still be a dumb bitch, you know.

Oh, yes. So I want to do that. and I'm trying to find things like running and like some clubs I've done and the writing that I can be busy and I can feel like, okay, I'm putting something out into the world, I'm challenging myself, but I'm not like missing my kids all the time and, you know, and also like you just never know with acting. It's a really like even for the people, I mean obviously not for like Brad Pitt, whatever, but even for the people who have been doing it a long time, like sometimes there's like rough

patches and you just don't know, it's not consistent. And so I just want to have something that I can do consistently and feel like I'm, you know, using my brain a bit. Yeah. No, it's a hard industry. It is. There was a lot of like so much rejection when I first started. So how did you handle that since you're so like you tend to go on the? I was like, well, of course. You didn't hire me because I'm a loser. So I. It was hard. There was one day where I remember I had done so many auditions. I just moved to L.A.

And I sat on a bus stop on Sunset Boulevard and cried my eyes out. No one even flinched. I'm like another crying gal here. I was so, like, embarrassed and, like, how is it possible that it is this hard? But you look at it now, like, but I am one of the ones that made it. Like, you weren't, it's not, you weren't sitting in that bus stop, gave it all up, went back to Australia. Like, you did really big things.

I think I had told myself that I would, like, give it to you. years. And if in two years I didn't have a job or I hadn't like done anything, I would go back and go to college in Australia. And I got my first job. You never really believe it. Like you always think you're going to get fired the first day of work, or at least I did. First day I was going to show up and someone would say like, oh, we've made a terrible mistake. Which I feel like has happened. It's happened a lot. Yeah. So you constantly feel like on edge or whatever until like you've been doing something for a long time, like a long show or something. But I never just felt, like, confident in it, except when I was on set.

Like, I loved it so much. I really did love it. But it's hard. You never know, like, if you're going to continue or if you're going to make it. I did, I think it was 1402 auditions before I got my first job in America. You counted. No, my manager at the time counted. Stop.

Yeah, she, I thank God for her for doing that because I was going to say no to one certain audition. She was like, Claire, done. 142 auditions. You have to go. You have to do this. And I was like, oh, you're right. And so I did. And then I think that was one of the jobs I got. And then I was, you know. Is there any job that you were going to get, didn't end up getting something like that we know that another famous actress said that you're, that like. The one that crushed me very early on was this movie called Percy Jackson and the Lightning Thief that Alexandra didara got. She's great. Like she obviously like deserved that role. But that. But that. That was the one when I first moved that I was like, this is it. This is my moment. I'm going to just swan into America and become a star. Yeah. And like, I didn't.

I tested for it. I went to Vancouver. I did the whole thing. Like, they shot all this footage. Wow. Basically, like, when you're going to get a job, you do this thing called testing where you have to sign the contract before. I just heard of this.

Yep. Yeah, there's three of you or there's five of you or whatever. And you have to act as if, which is kind of a mind fucker. Because you have to like imagine your life like that and and what it's going to be like and can you do it and then you start like thinking about all these things and like this is going to be my job and my life and you sign the contract and you go in, you do the audition and then they're like, oh, sorry, they peaked the other one. That's wild.

It's tough. So anyway, that happened to me. But they flew us to Vancouver to do the audition. So we filmed with Logan Lerman, who was like the leader of this thing. And I really thought like, oh, that was going to be that. And then I didn't get it. And it took me a long time to get a job after that. And it was kind of like soul crushing.

Yeah. But, you know, it's like grit. That's the thing that I think I want to teach my kids as well. Like, I don't want to save them from failure because I think that it really is important. Important for sure. And I think like even with my race, if I didn't fail that first time, I mean, I finished it. But if I didn't have such a hard time, I don't think I would have like come back and try it again and like had that feeling. Oh, I did it.

You know? I feel like this running is your life. Am I going to be a professional athlete? I mean, you're... Did your body change? Like what? I don't know. Like, no.

Like, how much stronger are you? I got muscle your legs for sure. Yeah. Because, I don't know, you're just like doing a lot. Are you going to keep running every day? Like, what's going to be... Maybe. I don't know.

I need to take some time off. I'm pretty busted now. Like, my, my Achilles is like... Is your husband happy or done? Yeah. He's happy. He's happy. loves he won't admit it well he will admit it he loves like the race and coming to be the cheerleader

it's so much fun like i don't know if you've watched marathon it's so i haven't i literally go for a minute oh you should go for a bit longer yeah just run one i ran to the marathon to like get there in time and i couldn't breathe you had a water on you i saw so many people on me i'm shocked like they're volunteers that pick up those cups they do the volunteers are amazing they get splashed because like you're trying to grab the cups and you like knock them over, they get gatorade all over them. Oh, does it have gatorade in it? Some have water.

Did you have any oranges, did you eat? No oranges. I have those disgusting gels. You suck down these like sugar gels. Oh, I saw people doing that. And you were carb loading. Yeah, a lot. Disgusting.

Because I remember you ran one race and you were so excited after you, like, celebrated with pizza. I felt, that was Chicago. That was three weeks ago. Okay. I was so happy after that one. But pizza after is exciting, isn't that part of the carb loading? That's what I was confused about.

Yeah, it is. So no. Wait, so I'm like, wait, I thought you're disgusted by this food already. I had a four Charles burger after the first race I ever did, and it was so bad on my stomach. Oh, my God. You know, I saw a sensitive tummy gals. What does that mean that only cute girls have a sensitive stomach? We do.

Yeah. So I went with like what was safe. What did I have this time? grilled cheese. After? Mm-hmm. But you're carb loading before, so this isn't like an exciting food. No, but you have to have the carb loading before, I feel like it's like you're so much,

I mean, this is getting like really granular, but you don't want the fat. You don't want like the as much protein. You just want like straight carbs. So it's pretty boring. Like a dry bagel or bagel with jam or something. Oh, I saw your bagel with jam. Disgusting. Oh, because like cream cheese would be like fat and the protein.

Right. And the more you have of that, the harder it is to eat. eat enough carbs. How much carbs do you need? I think I was doing like 500 grams a day for three days leading up to the race. Do you gain weight? You gain water weight, yeah. From those carbs. Yeah, like if you don't gain a few pounds, you probably haven't carb loaded enough. So everyone running should be carb loading. If you want to have an easier time in the race, yeah. Easier time in what way you're what? So your muscles store this thing called glycogen, I guess. And if you have enough carbs, like you can store up a certain amount of glycogen. which means that's like fuel for the race

and then you take the gels and the gatorade and like the gills are sugar? Sugar. So much sugar. So why was your, why did you feel like you were going to faint? I think maybe it was more my heart. My God. But people faint all the time,

but usually it's like heat now. Yeah, so dehydration, heat, like a lot of reasons. But you were drinking and I was. I was totally hydrated. That's why I carried my little water things with me. Is it like a thing? No. What was the water thing?

They were little bottles. Looks so lame. That's it, though. No, and then I took the cups as well. And you filled it up? No, I had like the water things before. Do you think the listeners are really bored? I care. They care.

Okay, fine. Yeah. I had the water things before, so it was like 20 ounces of water or something. And I took the cups on the course. And what about those glasses? Why are those necessary? The running glasses? It looks sick.

No, but for real. No, but for real. No, but for real now? It was pretty bright. It was bright. Sunny. Are you not wear like a regular? Oh, these don't.

fall off, maybe. These don't fall off. Yeah, you can't wear like a good chic. Yeah, of course. You do think you look. It's one of the things I'm going to admit that I like about myself and myself and running glasses. You love them.

I love them. Okay. Didn't you see my glittery hair too? I did when you did your cute little brain. My theory was like the less professional you look, the less people expect of you. So you wanted, because I liked your little Mabelene reel. You did? You did really good.

I like to. I usually don't even watch those. You watched it. Obviously for you, I'd watch. But I was also like. She did it so good. She didn't get ready with me. I did.

And I know you cringe. I cringe all the time. What's the thing you cringe at the most on social media? Not about you. Oh, what's the cringiest? What do I cringe at? I think like the lovey-dovey stuff. Really?

I'm kind of lovey-dove. I know. No, but like the ones... You guys do anniversaries and stuff. I'll tell you what it is. It's like the people who set up the tripod to film themselves dancing as a couple in the rain. Oh, is a couple? Oh, my God.

You don't buy themselves as a couple dancing. No, I can't. No, I can't do that. That's insane. Could you imagine? In. But also imagine, like... Or kissing.

Or kissing. Or kissing. Imagine like your husband being on board with it. Insane. Insane. Insane. Cringiest. Yeah, so that.

And then I always think, oh my gosh, is this me? I did one very cringy one once and I thought about it for a long time. What was it was? Oh, I know what it was. You know what it was. The bridge. Not the bridge? What's the bridge?

She ever does? Whoops. No, you said something about it. Which bridge was? You and you guys were like under a bridge and a boat. It was that was it. Oh, okay. Oh, it was a rock.

See, I didn't make anything out. No, that was the cringiest thing I ever did that. What did it say? Was it like loving? I don't even want to repeat it. I'm so embarrassed. I can't take it down. No.

I have to like commit to it. Yeah. Someone told me they thought it was from a cringe account though. What do you think? They thought it was like one of those like. The comments was like I thought this was from a cringe account. I'm surprised this. from you. Oh my God. They were just trying to fuck with you. No, I think they were, they meant it,

like, very seriously, like, like. Too cute? I don't know. Anyway. I think that all the time now I now when I post something, I'm like, oh, God. I know. That's how you get, which is why I want to tell your thing was so good, because I know you get, you always used to ask me, like, how do you just talk to the camera? How do you do it? I did try and do it on the way here. Oh, you did? Yeah. There was so many people and I kind of, like, held my camera down, but everyone was wearing their metal. And I didn't wear it because I felt like... What do you mean the next day? Everyone's wearing their metal on the street.

Oh, you've noticed. See, this is something I probably wouldn't notice, but as... No, you would. If you're walking down Times Square, which is where I was walking. Why were you... Oh, you're staying around here? I'm staying up north, but I wanted to, like, walk down here to... Ah.

To get some blood flowing. Uh-huh. Walk more, fine. So just, you know, imagine I'm in a movie, listen to my music. And everyone was wearing their metal. Do you listen to music on the marathon? Normally, yes. But because...

I ran with such an icon yesterday. I just wanted to chit-chat with her. Oh my God. That's what you got dizzy. You were just talking up the wazoo. Maybe. And then at last six miles, I put on this, like, hardcore, like,

don't be a little bitch. Get up. Like that type of motivational stuff. Yeah. And so I did that. But normally I run with music all the time. But not it's also the New York Marathon is so overwhelming, like in a good way.

Yeah. There's just so many people cheering. It's so loud. What was my favorite sign yesterday? this is this is really long and hard just the way my girlfriend likes it oh my god i was like that's a good did you see anybody cool aside from the people you kind of ran with did you see any like anyone passing it that was no one passing me you know what it's it's when you see no one passes me no one passed me lots of people pass me it's when you see the people pushing like the the the massive strollers

like the the running wheelchairs and they're pushing like a full grown adult and then they're just monstering up these hills, and they're so, so amazing. My friend Max does that. He does all the world marathons pushing. I mean, it's amazing. People running on like blades. Someone on crutches doing the whole thing on crutches, no, crazy. What are they trying to prove?

No, I'm just kidding. That's amazing. Seriously, amazing. Wait, you know, it's surprising that you didn't do a water berth with all these, like, things that you're able to do. That's not me. Yeah, and then when I had the epidural that didn't work, that was hell. for me. That's not me. I'm not a water birth girl. Okay, I wanted to ask you just one fun pop culture

question. Who is your favorite celebrity couple out of the following? I'm not going to make you think about it. I'm not giving you multiple choice. Okay. Great. Robin Suki. Okay. Tom and Zendaya, Blake and Ryan. Tom Zendaya. Full stop. I'm not even like considering anyone else. Really? I could see you being into Tom and Suki a bit. To Robin Suki? Right. No. Okay. So So, Zendaya the most, just because, like, I want to be her. You know, it's so funny, we did this panel yesterday, and we were talking about Tom Holland because he just was asked what his recent Google search was. See what he said?

I saw you post that, Zendaya. But so I told this girl, Jenny Mullen, she's not that into like pop culture, but she was like, wait, what? And I was like, yeah, he searches her to make sure everything's okay. And she had an entirely different take on it. Like it's creepy? She was like, she was like, that's fucking creepy. Like, why is he doing that?

No, it's not creepy. It's a little, you know what I don't think, okay, I'm just trying to be a devil's advocate because I'm obsessed to. But I'm just thinking, is Tom Holland a little bit controlling because we saw the paparazzi? He doesn't come off that way. Come on. He doesn't, but not. You can get the vibe of someone if they're controlling, like the way they walk, the way they're looking around. Like he's so like.

But he's checking her Google searches to see if like. I've Googled my husband. Haven't you? No, he won't come up. Oh, I just want to see if what comes up. I Google everyone. You do? Oh, I love it.

Well, now that chat GPTs are, I don't Google so much anymore. I just do everything on chat GPT. Oh my God, do you guys know I've never used chat GBT? You are missing out. I swear. It's the greatest thing to ever let's. Stop. You don't even have to use your brain for anything anymore.

What do you use it for? Like any question you've ever had. Do you have the app? Yeah, of course. Oh, maybe I'll get the app. Also, Noah would love this. Andy does this for Elle. You can like get a image version and like Elle's like, make me a unicorn,

pushing a shopping trolley, wearing high heels with lipstick on. and you can ask chat deep as you to do it and it'll do the most beautiful picture of it i'm missing out on life okay i want to know your thoughts on this okay okay i want to preface something for those that love and follow claire and don't know this almost every thought that i've had or i would even say like hot take that i've had i agree with she agrees with everyone just you know everyone she ain't so innocent She loves pop culture. She loves the tea.

Do you know that I was so tired yesterday? This is my mom brain. Did you have this? Like, I'm not okay. On the cab right here, I was working on something. And I was like, what's the word? Vocal, vocal, the driver couldn't hear me being so dumb anymore. He was like verbal.

Like, he had to give me the word I couldn't think of. You and I were texting yesterday and you were like, and I have this excellent tea. And in my mind, I was like, what tea is she drinking? Oh, like smooth move? Like what tea is she bringing? No, I love it. I love it. But anyway, just you know.

You've outed me. I'm obsessed with that. But she's, yeah. So just you guys now. She loves it. So does her mom. I'm afraid to say it publicly. I'm so proud of you for doing it.

I'm afraid someone's going to cancel me. Yes, you are. Sometimes you try to egg me out and you're like, post this. And I'm like, no, Claire. You'll, you do it anyway. I end up doing it because I can't. Once it's planning in my head, I can't. Yeah, but that's why people love you because you just say it how it is.

You're not. afraid to say what you want to say. I know, but I'm sure I'm fucking myself in some way. Doesn't appear that way. Not yet. Look at you go. Look at me go. So I wanted to do your thoughts on this.

So speaking of Ryan and Blake, your thoughts on Queen Martha saying Ryan's not funny. Who? Not doing it. See, you missed it because you got scared I was going to do something. I didn't do it. Who said Ryan's not funny? Martha. Stuart?

You missed that? You were running. I was running. Martha Stewart said Ryan's not funny. Literally went on a rant. She was on some talk show You can't say he's not funny She said they live next to each other

She said in real life He's not funny He's very serious She doubled down But there aren't a lot of comedians that way They're not going around Cracking jokes left and right I have to be honest

I have a lot of comedians on the show And I come in the morning being like I can't wait to laugh And you're the one doing the jokes And I'm like joke joke joke Thinking this is our vibe They don't Not the vibe

I don't know why that is though Because it's I don't I don't know either. It's probably tiring to just crack jokes. You would know. It's probably also you're not a machine, like, you're not a, like, joke, joke. You write them. Did he respond to it? He did. But, like, in the least Ryan Reynolds way, like, you would think he would be so funny about it. But it was actually, because I forgot what it was. She just randomly tweeted that he's not funny. No, no, she didn't tweet. She was on this, I don't want to say, like, dumb talk show, because it wasn't. It was a random interview. And they were like, who's the funniest? Blah, blah, blah.

Ryan Reynolds. So then instead of just answering and picking a different guy, she was like, Ryan Reynolds is just not funny. I don't know why people think it. He's not funny in real life. I thought the martini, sipping the martini thing was very funny. What was that? Remember when he went to that like martini?

Oh my God. That was funny. Do I remember when we talked about it? Because he was on the pod. Yeah, duh. Wait, I want to see what he responded. She said I'm going to get in trouble. He's my neighbor. So Ryan Reynolds responded, I disagree with her, but I've tried that one.

the woman is unexpectedly spry. What does that word? Oh. What does spry mean? What does it actually mean? Chat GBT. He probably fucking needs to chat duete. I know what it means, but I can't describe it.

Okay, Claire. She really closed the gap after a mile or so. What? I don't know. She really closed the gap? This is a very non- Ryan Reynolds response. That's like, oh, he's pissed. He's pissed.

This is him being really pissed. His feelings are hurt. Maybe his feelings are hurt. He should have said, like, something really funny. Yeah, funny response. Or not responded. But this, I disagree with her,

but I've tried that once. The woman is unexpectedly spried. She really close. Maybe he really hates her. Like, maybe there's been some drama in the building. In the building, in the mansions and Bedford that I'm moving to. So do I think he's funny?

No. I wasn't going to even put you there. I just want to tell you about this. Oh. I know the things that you think. No. Not about this, about others, though. You can ask me about it.

No, no, you can't. No, I can. I do think he's funny, though. I think he does a lot, but I think he's funny. Yeah, sometimes there's a lot of going on. But, yeah, he should have used his comedic things for this tweet. Exactly. Come back at Martha.

Even though the things that are coming out of her mouth, you guys, you have to just, there was, just now they posted. Like, Martha says, if your husband cheats on you, they're an idiot. Get out. And I'm like, okay, Martha. I don't know what Martha's up to. Yeah, I'm like, Martha, what's going on? What are documentaries out?

So you guys should watch it. Oh, she's trying to make the headlines. She's, yeah, this 83-year-old. Get it, girl. Fucking goals. Any publicity is good publicity, they say, right? Do you feel that way, though? No.

Okay. But that's what they say. I'm way too scared as a person. Does you know, your latest headline is like Claire won the Chicago Marathon. I won. 209. She won. Two hours and nine minutes.

Yeah, no, I didn't win. I participated. I'm trying to teach. James, he doesn't understand why I got a medal. He said, but you didn't win. I was like, it's a participation medal. That's so cute, though, that everyone gets one. I'm going to walk it to get one.

Get one. Imagine me, like, driving down the marathon thing. You get the medal at the end. Claire, Holt, I'm obsessed with you. I'm obsessed with you. Thank you for coming on. I'm such a fan girl. I'm so excited.

I was very nervous today. It's like, what if I say? What if I'm boring? You're the least boring ever. We love you here. Can I come back? Yes. next marathon.

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