Not Skinny But Not Fat - ERIN & SARA FOSTER: NOBODY WANTS THIS
Episode Date: September 24, 2024My sisters are here! Erin & Sara Foster are moguls, investors, fashion designers, and creator & executive producer of the new Netflix show Nobody Wants This starring Kristen Bell &...; Adam Brody! We discuss the show’s original title and how they decided to develop a show based on Erin’s relationship, how the sisters manage their hugely successful clothing brand Favorite Daughter, how they started investing in brands, Erin’s home birth, my special bond with her and more! Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars from my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room.
The foster is.
sisters are here.
We'll be like 90.
Be like the Foster.
We're like rolling in in our walkers.
Like the Foster's.
I did legally change my name.
Should I just like,
can't like separate ourselves?
Should I like the Tickman sisters?
Erin Tickman.
No, like I, no, no.
You can't come over to my sister.
Yeah.
Why are you?
Girl, get your own last name.
I'll be a Tickman.
You can be like, what do you want to be?
But do you don't want to actually be the Tickman.
Well, I do.
You do?
No, but you want to like change it.
I don't know.
I'm starting to think like maybe she's full of shit.
I feel like she'll feel like.
Instagram handle at first. Yeah, test it out. It's coming. No, I don't know. I have no plan.
There's no game plan. I'm not buying it. You're tied. You love it. I'll tell you what,
it is nice to have the same last name as your kids. Like, that's the only thing I care about.
I don't care about being his last name. Oh, right. Wait. Is Hirsch your husband's last name?
No, my husband's is Weiss, which is so similar in like last name vibes.
Hirsch Weiss, just the two most Jewish names out there. Yeah, very Jewish, but like the same amount
a letter is kind of, I think. I didn't count. But, like, I just want to be like my kids,
because then you go to the doctor. Yeah. No? Sarah? Well, does, how does your, Sarah doesn't
have the same name as my kids? I, right. That's what I'm saying. So when you go, like,
it's like, it's not a problem. Yeah. But did, does your husband care? Actually, he's such a,
what's it called? Like, greedy motherfucker or something. That I was gonna, no, you're going to see why.
Oh, he's like, it's not good for the brand. Right. Swear is, swears. I wanted to change it. Yeah, I wanted
to change it at some point, and I even got the, like, there's this thing that helps you, like, hitch.
A hitch switch. I've used it. Oh, yeah, yeah. That's what I used. So, I got the packet and he was like,
oh, no, no. Like, you can't do this. Put in the trash not good for the brand.
Swear. Honestly, good for him. Yeah. He knows where his bread is butter. Yeah. So when people ask
if he's supportive. Dang. He's a good teammate. And you know, Aaron, I've talked to you about him being,
like, more on the protective side and like the gel. So it's sort of, with the greed goes above it.
I love that. And I'm like, Haley Beaver,
changed her name, but she changed it to Beaver.
Do you find...
I mean, I'll change my name to Beaver.
Yeah, like, she changed her from Baldwin to Beaver.
Do we be Aaron and Amanda Bieber?
Because I'm down.
I always find that I forget people's...
You know someone so well, and then you forget they're made in name.
Yeah, I agree.
I always forget people's made a name.
Like, Sophia Richie is Sophia Grange now, right?
No.
What, you fully leaned in to Grange for her?
I mean, it's on her Instagram, isn't it?
That's this bad example.
Literally, I, by the way, anybody that changes in on Instagram, I ask them if they
just changed it on Instagram or if they went through the paperwork,
most of them just changed on Instagram.
By the way, going through the paperwork is very hard.
Why?
Which is why I think it's like lame to just change on Instagram.
That doesn't mean anything.
Yeah.
Don't fake it.
You know?
Anyway, you guys, Aaron and Sarah, well, Sarah, don't feel left out, but Aaron has kind of
been like part of my life for a long time.
Yeah, we're like friends.
Oh, I've accepted it.
It's okay.
I dropped her off at your podcast.
No, I know.
And I was like, okay.
I was like, okay, kids, have fun.
Wait, wait.
Wait, wait, when Sarah, so was that like 2018 or 19?
It was probably 2018.
2018, I was doing my pot out of my one-bedroom apartment kitchen.
Erin was probably my first, like, celebrity.
No need to hesitate before some celeb.
I was trying to think of, like, big time.
Erin, I was so excited.
The platter.
You were so excited.
She had snacks for me.
Which makes no sense for a pod because, like, you're not supposed to eat.
But, like, I've laid out snacks and, like, seltzers or something.
Really cute.
And Ariel was there.
Arielle was there.
Sarah, did you drop her?
off because of the elevator? No, we had lunch together before and then I said, I'm going to come
do this. What were you going to do with the elevator? And she was like, I'll just walk you there.
Erin and I also, we have the same fear of elevators. I don't talk about mine as openly as you do.
Are you embarrassed? I honestly, it's the weirdest thing. Like, there's something about my claustrophobia
is so real that I'm scared for like the masses to know about it. Because like, what if somebody ever wants
to like lock me in somewhere? Like, that's what I think. Aaron, this is going to. This is going to
this goes deep. I know. It's like scares me. It's like very vulnerable for people to know how scared I am of
bathroom. So people who are with me have like a code. Tell her what I did for.
The bathroom thing. No, I'm not at all. Do you understand that she peed without the door closed on JetBlue on the way here? I stood at the door. I was like, let's just close. You don't have to lock it. Are you mad? I'm telling her she's looking at me like. No, it's fine. I posted that, Erin. One time I was in the bathroom and I locked the door and I was like, so proud of myself, I was like, so proud of myself, I used to not lock the door. And do you know how many people?
were like, sames.
Really?
Yeah.
It's not weird.
Nobody wants to be locked in.
What, so Sarah, so she didn't lock on the job blue.
So you stood there.
Well, I didn't know what I was getting into because I don't remember this with you.
I remember that you would close it all the way.
Now she won't even close it all the way.
So it was open enough to where if someone walked by, you fully see her like holding a giant.
Yeah, I don't care either.
She just didn't even care.
I would rather not get stuck somewhere.
This morning, I was at the hotel.
I was staying at Fouquet Hotel.
Yeah.
And by the way, Brad Pitt's citing there.
Am I allowed to say that?
Is that where he stays?
I mean, this isn't come out later than the hiding.
Okay, great.
But like, can you go stalk him or something?
Yeah, I didn't see him with my own lives.
Can you go stalk him?
I mean, my sister Jordan.
That's a little too far downtown for me.
I stay on 77.
I don't really go past 50th.
Anyway, what happened was this morning, I was like, how do I get down stairs?
So I called down.
I said, do you want sending someone up to help me with my bags downstairs?
You lied?
And so I'm up there waiting.
The guy comes up with this, like, huge, you know, like, luggage cart thing.
And he's like, walks past me.
like, no, no, you're here for me. And he's like, no, no, 5.15. And I was like, yeah, that's me.
I'm just scared to take the elevator. He's like, oh, no problem. Wait, why wouldn't you plan
it out better then? Stay with, where Sarah stays? Here's the thing.
Oh, Sarah and I go to New York. We don't sit together on the airplane. We take two separate
cars from the airport. By that, we take two separate flights usually, because you like to
fly in Newark and I fly into JFK. And then we stay at separate hotels. It's not weird. It's like
we hate each other. But why? Sarah likes to stay uptown. I like to stay downtown. We both
like window seats if we're like sleeping on a flight so we don't want to be next to each other.
And Sarah, you're weird about the planes. You talk to the pilot and stuff. I talked to pilots.
I tracked the flight the entire time. Which would make sense for you to be weird about planes.
Like it's just- Not weird about planes. No, she's not worried about planes. I...
You're like not scared of planes, even though claustrophobic, sorry to tell you.
Are you scared on planes? Yeah. Sorry, windows and other people makes a difference for me.
If I was being true to myself... The window. The window is going to help. I don't know.
Just like wind. The other people do. Like, I always say this. I'll go up an elevator with a legit murderer.
Like, you know, just like someone to be there.
A baby, by the way, do you go up with Noah?
Oh, yeah, have you?
I was in an elevator with her the other day in my building.
And there was like a pause I didn't like.
And I, and I, like, sunk to the floor and did my thing.
And I was like, oh, God, Aaron, you cannot do this in front of your time.
Right.
They make you stronger.
Not yet.
Oh, okay.
But you did it.
Were you just with her?
Yeah.
So you did it.
Well, in my building, I do it because I've gotten used to that elevator.
Oh, you do it by yourself, too?
That's big.
It's big.
I really don't like it.
it. Yeah, it's about getting used to it. Anyway, so I do feel weirdly connected to Daryan. Like,
we have this thing. We have a lot of similarities. We have a lot of similarities, not like all the
other things you're into. You know, the other non-toxic stuff? Yeah, just being like non-toxic.
No, you're super toxic. Like what toilet paper do you use? It's called plant paper.
Oh, my. Hey, Ariel was asking me. She's like, I was like, do you know that we've been white,
like we've been putting toxins in our butthole?
Yeah. You want to bleach your butt hole?
change to non-toxic? A butthole toxic. I don't know. I like charmed. Like, what can I tell you? Yeah, I do too. I like regular toothpaste. Do you use regular toothpaste? No, no, no. I don't do that. What do you do? I use organic toothpaste. Like, I use fluoride free. I don't know. I don't know. Risewell. I use like Tom's. I don't know. Tom's, no. Sarah's daughter Josie in Cabo last week said to me, I don't know. She goes, Erin, can you please tell my mom to be more on top of toxic things for me and organic stuff? Because she's not really on top of it. And I
really need her to be. And I was like, yes, Josie, I will. Okay, but Aaron's like doing some weird
shit on the side with my kid. She was going to show her the birthing video. You also were about
to do something else weird with her. She wanted to show Josie my eight weird things. She wanted
to show, no, no, she wanted to show my eight-year-old her home birth video. Like the
really proud of it. The whole thing. I know you are. Amanda. She seriously is like,
come on, Josie, I want to show it to you. You're making it to like I'm grooming her. Well, it's like
a horror movie. Did she want to see it? No, she was like that made me unfunfrey.
Wouldn't be, did Valentina want to see it?
No, definitely not.
Guys, I can't get people to watch this video.
It's like, I'm dying to give people to watch this video.
You're going to post it, aren't you?
I would love to, but I'd probably get banned.
No, I've seen posted once.
Can we talk about that for one second?
Yeah.
About, about...
Wait, what did you think of her doing a home birth
when she told you she was going to do it?
At first, I was just like, Erin, there's no medal for this.
Like, just go to the hospital.
Like, there's no metal.
Like, just go...
But then when she explained it to me,
that she's had so many years of,
highs, I mean, very few highs, lows. She's like, I want to feel something positive. Yeah.
I want to feel it. And so then I was like, okay, I won't shame. Yeah. And you don't, hashtag,
no regrets, right? Honestly, I think there kind of is a medal. People are really impressed when you tell
them. I know. I know, Eric. No, they're not. But like, it's, it hurt you so much more than it should
have, probably. No, I, I, I, I think you did it for the black and white picks. Yeah,
by the way, some of those picks were insane that you posted. I was horrible. Wait, how was
Simon okay with that. I don't, I have no idea. That's what I wonder with you, because we've talked
about this more. I thought Simon was very like, this man girl. Like, he's like one of those,
what's a name for it? Protroling. Chauvinistic. No, no. What is, no. What is, no, what is you mean
like protective? Yeah. Like those men that don't, like, want their women to be a little bit like,
you know, that they're a little jealous. Yeah. Like Alpha. Yeah. But you mean just being
protective? Yeah. Protective, but like possessive. A little bit. Yeah. There's nothing wrong with
a little possessiveness. No, a little bit of possessiveness. There's some guys that don't care.
Wait, so you were surprised, he let me, what, show the, well, I didn't really show anything, though.
Aaron. I mean, you put a little smile on your butt hole, but, like, there was a butt.
Oh, on my vagina, actually. And your, and your face, you were like, it was like, it was, like, it was like. And you've been breastfeeding, like, all up in videos. Yeah. He doesn't love that. Honestly, I don't know. I guess I just, like, tuned it out at some point. Just do what I want to do. Do your listeners like to hear about this sort of thing? How far are breastfeated they're into it? Yeah. Really? How many male listening?
you have?
I don't know.
Is it mostly female?
Yeah.
Mostly female.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Then I'm going to go.
Do you have males?
Yeah, we have males.
Really?
Yeah.
We got males.
So I'm always like telling you to shut it down.
I'm like, enough about your sore nipples.
Like, we have male listeners also.
They don't want to hear about your chap.
Look at you like putting your like heel on the table.
Like this is an aggressive look.
I can't see because this light is blinding.
But you have to, can you not look, stop looking at yourself.
It's a great.
Well, I looked when she said it.
But then it looks weird if you like look at yourself, you know?
Oh, do you, do you post the whole thing?
I've noticed guests who, no, no, no, I do, but like, I don't care about that.
But I feel like when guests look at themselves, I'm like...
Yeah, well, luckily, I can't see myself.
But you look so pretty.
Oh, thanks.
Yeah.
Your eyes are like popping out.
Poppin.
Okay, so I want to go back to the connections.
So first follow, first big pod, I came to your bumble event.
I don't know if you remember with Whitney.
With Whitney.
That was a huge, like, wasn't that like one of your first moment?
No, that's when she said to us, I want to work with you guys.
Whitney, the CEO of Bomba, the founder, yeah.
This was 2017.
And I remember coming, I, like, made the effort.
I didn't go to, like, anywhere then.
It was before, you know, it grew into what it is today.
But I was like, okay, I'm going to go because, like, I wanted to support, blah, blah, blah.
And I came.
And then when I was reading about it, like, that was your first kind of step into the business world.
After that, and we had vibed so well with Whitney that she was like,
I want to give you guys a job.
And we're like, great.
And you became chief creative.
No, creative directors.
They made you chiefs.
You became founders?
Not of Bumble, though.
She was launching Bumble biz and BFF.
Right.
Two arms of the, you know.
Yeah.
And so she was like, you guys are at this interesting intersection.
I feel like you can educate, you know, the customer, the audience on how, on, you know,
normalizing meeting a friend.
Yeah.
Online.
Yeah.
It was up to us to come up with creative strategies and how to.
And that was the first job that you had that was like business in the business.
I mean, no, no, no, that was just a panel we did with her. And because of that panel,
then she was like, let's work together. And then from Bumble, you've leaned into the entire
business world. Yeah. Yeah. That was definitely our first. That's wild. That was an incredible
entry point for us. So then you invested in it? Or what happened? No, no, no. We got equity in Bumble.
Oh, right. But they didn't need our money as investors. And then you were like, we want to start
investing in brands. Well, once we went, since Bumble ended up having a big exit. And, and then
From that, we'd gotten an opportunity to invest in the mirror.
Oh, right.
Yeah, mirror.
I remember Sarah doing it.
Yeah.
Right.
Well, by the way, that's exactly it.
I mean, we sort of started becoming these people that would get associated with,
oh, you're launching a business.
There's a little component to it where you need some educating.
Like, call the fosters.
Like, they're really good at this.
So we started sort of gaining this reputation as helping brands.
The point is that we had opportunities to invest in things.
But we weren't, you know, how much of your own personal money at this point in your
life. Can you really give? Yeah. And we don't want to be writing checks from our own personal money.
So then we started a fund so we could invest in those companies without, you know.
The fund means that other people invest into the funds. It's much more fun to invest with
other people's money than your own money. How did you know even how to like do this?
Well, it's like a process. Well, and also we paired, we partnered with a guy named Phil Schwartz.
That's what he does. Uh-huh. He runs all the logistics of the fund.
We'll be right back after the break.
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Okay, wait, I wanted to say one more thing because I texted you about this, Aaron,
but you didn't realize like how big of a deal was to me and how I stayed up for two nights
thinking about it, about the girl who died.
Oh, I didn't know you're going to bring this up.
Why can't I?
No, I mean, you can.
Sarah knows who you're talking about.
She doesn't know yet.
But that was another point of like, like, that it was just so weird.
So I, sometimes I scroll through my message.
Do you guys look at your DMs?
Yeah.
I like, like, it's such a nice pastime for me.
Yeah.
I'll just like, scroll, look, open something randomly.
Sometimes you'll see something.
You're like, damn, if I would have missed that, that would have been weird.
Yep.
But I'm sure you miss like so many things.
Of course.
This girl wrote to me that she was wearing one of my merch hat.
Somebody came up to her, asked her what it is,
because she doesn't know.
She told her that girl ended up being the girl
that connected this, the girl that was wearing my hat.
And her, her, what's it called?
Sister-in-law?
No, it's it called.
Sister-in-law.
Yeah.
Guys, I don't know who you're talking about.
Her sister-in-law died.
And her sister-in-law was a huge fan of errands.
And my-oh, you mean the girl whose funeral you went to?
Yeah.
So her sister-in-law was wearing the hat and the girl who died bought it for her.
Oh, my God.
She was a follower of mine and a fan of Aaron's.
Yeah.
And kind of offended.
She asked Aaron for a video.
I thought you too.
Maybe I didn't see it.
No, because I opened her messages.
That's why I couldn't sleep because I opened my messages with her and just saw years where she wrote me and I was broken that I didn't see it.
And it was just wild to me because in this whole story that at first I was just wanted to say, sorry.
Then I read it again.
I realized like, you're in the story.
And I was like, how was Aaron like looped into this?
No, I had, I mean, we shouldn't say her name probably, right?
But I had, it's the, it's the strangest thing.
Like a friend of ours, Jenny, who listens to her podcast all the time.
Jenny, she reached out and said, would you ever make a video for this person?
And I told me her situation, she was dying of cancer and she has two small little kids.
And I was like, well, why don't I FaceTime with her?
So I did a FaceTime.
And there's just something like I felt really connected to her.
I felt like a connection like I would like to spend time with this person.
Like I wanted to be friends with her.
And I became so invested in what was going to have.
happened. And I was checking in with her and she was updating me and saying, you know,
oh, I had a good day and things are doing really well. And then I got a text from her,
but it was her husband saying, I'm so sorry, but she passed away yesterday. I lost my shit.
And I had never met her in person. But I felt so like, I don't know, there's something,
I don't know, like, universe, like connected us. She also seemed super positive. Like,
she was. She was a really impressive person. I didn't even know how impressive until I went to her
funeral and learn more about her.
That's so kind of you that you went.
I honestly was honored to be there and it was really
cool for her friends to like see me
there and me see them there and us all like
connect over it and I don't know. And then I got
well now I am upset. Remember you
asked if I was up? Now I am. And this is devastating
this story. But it was just
wild like the connection that I opened
for messages, couldn't sleep because I was up feeding
Lenny and I was like, oh my God, I missed
all these messages. And I went back
and like I kept on asking the sister
in-law questions, but she just wanted to tell me
a sweet story. And here I am being like, when did this
happen? When was she diagnosed, like, pulling
her into this upsetting convo?
But yeah, but it really freaked me out
not to project it onto myself, but she
but she was writing to me
about my stomach issues because I complained about, like,
tummy. Oh, that's the other thing we have a connection about. Right.
So she was like writing to me
in like December, she passed, she
was diagnosed in March, 23, in
December 22, she was
DMing me like, oh,
mama, like I have the same stomach stuff.
like here's a salivara to take, here's this, this, this, oh, mama, it's the stress, like sending
all these nice things, sending all these tips. And then, meanwhile, she thinks she has this
fucking whatever I, you know, was dealing with gastritis and thencebo, whatever. And she ended up
having. Was it stomach cancer? Pincreata cancer. That's what she had? Yeah, that's the deadly one.
And that's the one you don't want. And that's the one you don't want. So I'm like,
December, she's writing to me about this. March, she's diagnosed August she passed away. So
chilling to the bone, but like, opened her messages and it.
it really touched me.
And then you
bought your way
into that story as well.
I really did.
And we both have stomach issues.
Yeah.
I mean,
yeah,
that was a funny part of the show.
Anyway,
we'll get to the show.
Yeah,
just wild.
Oh,
I'm obsessed with the show,
you guys.
Nobody wants this.
I can't leave
you already watched it.
You saw all 10 episodes?
No, I,
I'm so sad I watched it
because I want to save it
forever.
You saw all 10?
No, I saw like,
four or five.
It goes so fast.
It goes too fast.
I'm already thinking,
you guys want to hear a wild
I am.
Yeah.
I'm like,
so it's considered a comedy, right?
Like, it's going to go up against the bear.
Oh, like, you think you're going to get nominated?
Yeah, I do.
Amanda.
Yeah.
That's, and it's annoying me that the bear is the comedy fucking thing.
But the bear is not a comedy.
Why is it in a comedy category?
You should know this as TV people.
It's because it's 25 minutes, no?
But the bear's also had its time.
Like, I think the Emmy's like to spread it out.
And the Emmys, you know, that's so cool that you think that we got, we're going on it.
I think it's so fucking.
good. And I'm like, again, it just felt because I watched like, I couldn't stop. I watched like
four in a row. It felt like a movie that I don't want to end. Tell me things you like about it.
So I was just going to say the joke. Wait, what were we just talking about? That stomach issues?
Right. That she comes, that Joanne comes in and she's not Jewish. And the girl's like,
what's it like to not have stomach issues? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Leslie Grossman. She plays a female
rabbit. Oh, I love that. Yes. Anyway, nobody wants us is Sarah and Aaron's new show. I mean, Aaron
Created the show. I'm a producer on the show, but Aaron created the show and wrote the show.
And she includes, like, she includes you and everything. Okay. But it wasn't so much like that.
Oh. We, the big, I was there from the beginning and all of that. But no, I mean, she's the creator of the show. She, like, because it's your story more or less. Yeah. Right. Like what changes.
I mean, obviously very, it's, it's inspired by. Inspired by. Yeah. Now I'm wondering like, what's, I'm like, what's, I'm like, what's, your dad isn't gay.
No. No. There's, it's right. Right. Right. People are like, oh my God. And now Morgan is you. I'm like, Morgan is you. I'm like,
Morgan is not me.
Oh, yeah.
People are going to sewing Morgan with you.
No, it's very loose.
Yeah.
It's very loose.
There's some things that are real.
Yeah.
I mean, yeah, Simon's not a hot rap.
I mean, it's hot, but he's not a rabbi.
Hot non-rabbi.
What were you just going to ask?
What was I going to ask?
Something specific you were wanting to know that's real life.
No.
Oh, like so many things I want to know.
So many things.
I'm like, no, well, your mom is like kind of hippity.
Honestly, the mom is.
Mom's maybe the most.
No, stop.
Accurate?
Like accurate?
I would say. No, but Lynn is way more like head in the clouds and our mom is actually very grounded and very...
But yes, but like, listen, the story about like not having the note C in her voice is a very...
It's a true conversation. Real conversation that we had. Stop. Yeah. Where you thought something was wrong and then it was that? Yeah. Like, literally yesterday, I almost couldn't come to New York because I had... Have you experienced this from breastfeeding, hunching over and stuff? Like, I had a pinch nerve in my neck that I actually thought I was having like a seizure. I couldn't move. I was so pain.
that I couldn't even functioned. My mom came over it. And she goes, oh, Aaron, you know what's stored
right here? Here. No. Wait. I was like, Mom, I think it's just a pinched her from breastfeeding.
Oh, my God. Are you going to be like that? You are so fearful. No. I was like, this is where the fear
is. Oh, my God. Wait, was she always like that, like when you were growing up, too? She became more spiritual
as we got older, for sure. Wait, did we preface this enough? Nobody wants this. It's coming out on
Netflix? Or is out on Netflix when this comes out? No, no, no. Oh, when does this come out? Well, I don't
know yet. Okay. So, September 26th, it just came out. All episodes going to be out at once?
Yes. Okay. Is that a decision you make or Netflix makes that decision? By no. Yeah.
They don't really, they just tell me, you know? Yeah. But people like to binge. I know. I mean, I sometimes
like not to, but nobody agrees with me. How are you in, how are you feeling about tell me lies?
I like that it spread out. See? I don't like it. I want it. I want it all.
at once. See, so most people are like you. I can, like accept. I'm going to be like, okay, I like
that you're giving this to me. I can lose interest after five days. Wait, how many time like the
two? Two. Yeah. My episode, Grace was on the pot. It's coming out tomorrow.
Why is she more famous? I don't, I'm confused by this. No, she's a star. No, she's such a,
no, she's a star. Maybe she's going to be. She's gorgeous. But it's been a year in between
one and two. It wasn't fun to be next to her, you know? No, she's ridiculous. She's incredible.
And like, she's literally like, you know, how her
character.
Yeah, she's got like those, like, sultry eye.
Yeah, she's unbelievable.
Yeah, and they were so cute together.
Again?
Yeah, you were obsessed with Tell Me Lies, I remember, because we talked about it like two years
ago when I had Jackson, you were like, tell me everything.
I was upset.
You lost interest.
I lost interest.
But you know what I told my people to do when they listened?
Rebend the whole first season.
You did say that.
Everybody was like, thank you.
And also, you're welcome.
Hulu.
Isn't it interesting how these documentaries have like Pamela Anderson's documentary.
By the way, I feel like the Beckham documentary completely changed.
my perception of them. I'm now obsessed with them. Yeah? Yeah. Why'd you think about documentaries
all of a sudden? Because we were talking about Pam Anderson and the thing that actually resurrecting her. I'm
sure she wouldn't have gotten that movie without her doc. That's true. That's true. That's true.
Absolutely. I know that David Beckham one was so good. And you know, Victoria, I just posted the other
day. She came out with the T-shirts. My dad has a Rolls-Royce, which is genius. And that moment.
They're really leaning in. I'm really into David Beckham being this like homemaker who just
who pots plants all day and cooks. Do you follow him on Instagram?
He's a great follow him. I do. Follow him. I do. Oh, yeah. He's like, no more motorthical. I love that she posts him working out and is like, you're welcome, like every day. Yeah. She's really into his hotness.
Yeah. You know, Sarah has thoughts. You won't say them.
No. She has thought. Okay. So nobody wants this. It's Aaron's story. Lusely.
Loosely. Because you did, you were not Jewish. You're Jewish now. I was a Shiksa and now. But it's not called Chixa. It was supposed to be called Shiksa. The show was originally called Shiksa.
Yeah.
And now it's called Nobody Wants This.
I think it's just, it's a hard word to say.
Yeah, she couldn't say it.
She couldn't say it.
In the show.
Yeah, yeah.
A Shiksa means like a non, like a hot non-Jew.
Yeah.
I mean, listen, there, a Shiksa, it originally was a derogatory term.
Right.
It can mean, some people could be offended by it, but I mean, come on.
Like, at this point, it really just means, like, a cute blonde that's not Jewish.
Yeah.
That your mom, like, doesn't want you to end up with.
Sarah, did Erin change when she became Jewish?
I mean, listen, I don't know if it's because.
Jewish or just falling in love with the right person. I think she's just more domesticated
now. She's just about, yeah, so I don't know if it's about becoming Jewish, but I think there's
something about Judaism that, you know, the center of it is home and family and Shabbat Fridays
coming together. And I think she really thrives in that. When she told you that she's going to convert,
what did you say? I was like, do whatever you need to do to get him to marry you. Really? Did she say
that, though? I was just like, yeah. I were like, bye. Yeah. Really? My mom, like, wants to convert.
now. My family was very supportive, yeah. Oh, my God.
Mom was to convert to Judaism? It's a, it's a situation. I've talked to, like, people about it
because it's an interesting thing. Like, I'm sure he wasn't like convert for me, but he made
it pretty clear that if you don't, you couldn't really have a future. Yeah. I don't know.
I don't remember how it was said, but it was, it's so weird before I ever. Very hairy in Charlotte.
Right. Oh, yeah. I just, although it's a misrepresentation a little bit because you don't
have to like knock on the door three times and I mean you don't have to be turned away I've heard
that other place not knock but I've heard the turned away thing maybe if you you did reform convert
conservative maybe it's more that like what the the rejection sort of represents is that Jews don't
prosthetize like they don't go out and try to get more people to become oh yeah yeah so if you come
to them and say I'd like to convert and want to be Jewish their intent is not to like sell you on it the
intent is to kind of be like, well, this is what it's really like. Are you sure? Because once
you sign up for it, you got to be all in. And so the idea is if you got divorced from the person
that you're converting for, you would say Jewish. Do you stay Jewish? If that person passes away,
do you still raise your kids Jewish? Like, they kind of test you a little bit to make sure you're there
for the right reasons. Kind of like The Bachelor. Yeah, but you're there because you want to marry a
Jew. Yes. Basically. So you got to. But it is crazy. Like, you don't have any resentment.
No, no, no, at all.
I feel like that's important.
I think she's appreciative.
I think it's the opposite of resentment.
I think it's...
I use an argument sometimes.
I'm like, oh, I convert to Judaism.
I think you can do X, Y, or Z.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She used my religion.
Yeah, I mean, it is a big deal.
Yeah, it is.
Sarah, would you do it?
I mean, I don't think I would do it to just do it, but I have...
But it's definitely the most front-facing religion in our family.
We don't really sell...
We're not big...
We're not...
We didn't grow up religious.
Yeah.
So we really, now as a family,
we all look forward to Passover and...
Really? And Aaron, you learned it so recently
that you can, like, tell them about it. Like, I don't know.
But, like, our family, meaning my mom, my dad, my stepmom,
who are none of them are Jewish, they all come and celebrate Rosh Hashanah at our house.
I mean, I can say the prayer. Yeah, do it, sir.
Are you serious? Yeah, do it.
Barukata, Adanoi, al-Hanu, Melah, Halalha,
Meshire, Khadishu, Bahamitzvita, Vizivanu.
Wow.
La Hadlikner shall...
Yeah.
by the way
Amen
Adam Brody
has such a good
he really does
Did he practice it
or did it come naturally to him
Because not all Jews are born
with like a
And he had
He had
Have you watched the camp episode?
They just got to camp
Okay they just got to camp
Because at the end of camp
They do their first Shabbat together
And it's like out the prayer
And it's pretty cute
You guys I'm obsessed with this show
You're gonna be so upset with it
Really
Say that genuinely
You can tell that it's genuine
Right?
Because like I
love it. Ariel, right?
Tech Studio is like, you have to watch it. She's like, I'm going
to right now. I was like, relax, you don't have the screen.
Maybe wait until it comes out and give us down a little.
Like, wait for everybody else.
And two huge stars, like, in it.
Like, did you imagine this?
Well, the supporting castor stars, too. Justine Loop
from Succession. She's so funny. Miss Maisel.
And, I mean, there's so many other
Tim Simmons from Beat. Tim Simmons from Beat.
No, we got, I scored Beyond.
With Kristen and Adam together, it's like a dream.
They're so good together.
Kristen's so likable. She's so good in the role.
She's so like, I don't know.
It's just perfect. I don't know how I got this lucky, truly.
I'm killing it.
But how did you get it?
What was the starting point?
You were like, I want to make a show about this?
No. So the starting point was that when I was converting,
I was telling our manager and producing partner, Ollie Ops,
about how interesting the conversion process was.
And I had just started.
And he was like, should we do a documentary?
about you converting. It's so interesting. And I was like, I don't think so. And then one of us,
I don't know who was. We said, like, what if it was a scripted show? And he's like, what if we call it
Shiksa? And it just like, it just like popped. Wow. And so we sold the idea to 20th.
The idea. At that point, was it like a rabbi and a... It was not a rabbi yet. It was just
kind of based in our, like, how different... Was he like a club promoter or something? He was...
I don't think so. Are you sure? I think that was in one of the early iteration. I don't remember that.
Yes. I remember you...
Really?
I remember we sitting around and you were like,
is it like a Scott Dissick type?
I mean, we really had those conversations.
Wait, that's so weird because I mean, whatever.
I don't remember that, but it was...
So basically we...
I started writing the idea because sometimes you sell an idea to a studio
and they will pay you to write it
if you sell the show to a network.
So sometimes you sell the pitch and then you write it
or sometimes you write the pilot and then sell the pilot.
and then sell the pilot.
Yeah.
But we pitched it as not a pilot.
Just as an idea.
2.20.
But I'm saying that then I wrote the pilot in COVID
and then that's what we sold to Netflix.
Yeah, yeah.
So I wrote the pilot in COVID and it was,
I had a really hard time writing it.
Like you by yourself and like Sarah and the...
No, no, I don't write.
Oh, okay.
No, but with the producers, we...
And there was a point kind of early on
when we were trying to figure out
what the conflicts were on the show.
And it just was like not...
there wasn't enough there.
And one of our producers said,
hear me out.
What if he's like a young, cute rabbi?
And at first I was like,
no, that's insane.
That doesn't make any sense.
And then I thought about it.
I was like, you know what?
I think that's like the stakes that we need
to give this a little bit more grit.
Yeah.
And so...
That makes sense.
Then it all started to flow a lot easier.
Oh, when there was that big...
Yeah.
Like he's not just Jewish.
Yeah, because I think...
You need so much to sustain a season
and to sustain...
Two seasons, three seasons.
And you don't want their only obstacles to be about his religion,
but if he's a rabbi, it's like his whole life.
Yeah.
And Aaron, this is what you want to be doing.
Yeah.
Right?
And Sarah?
Listen, I mean, I think that from, you know,
when you look at our career,
you look at the things that we have going on, I think.
A lot.
A lot.
And I think this is where Aaron feels the most fulfilled doing this.
True.
For sure.
We'll be right back after the break.
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I'll do like my pro-Israel stuff and then some bikini picks.
I know, Erin.
You're like, your tit, I know.
Yeah.
No wonder.
Listen, I think you know.
Sprored nipples means less followers.
When I started following you, I think you were like posting funny stuff.
Yeah, I was.
Like you were really, you're saying I'm not funny anymore.
Towing back a little bit.
Oh man, did you used to post funny things?
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Yeah.
It was.
You were like funny on Instagram.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. I know. And now?
Back of the day.
Now she's just, now she's such a mogul.
She doesn't need to be funny on Instagram anymore.
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And I just.
Well, you're also being seen for what you're really good at, which is creating this show.
Yeah, I don't want to be seen as someone who's.
I still need a lot of validation in my, you know, bikinis on Instagram.
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Like, favorite daughter, your ventures, the show, Instagram.
I mean, we're developing other shows.
Motherhood, Amanda.
Yeah, we are motherhood.
That's true.
But we also have a podcast.
And you have a podcast, which, by the way, you guys, some tea.
They just had on Justin Baldoni.
Did that episode, like, Skyrocket?
People thought they were getting in the tape.
We don't really lucky on our timing with that.
Sarah literally wanted to have him.
because, well, I follow Sarah,
so I knew you were like,
I'm so just around, blah, blah, blah.
I didn't even know
all this drama was happening,
and I don't even think it had happened
before you recorded.
But between those booking him
and him coming on,
like the entire world blew up.
I wanted him on
because of that video of him
telling his best friend
how much he loved him.
I thought I was just so vulnerable
and honest,
and I really,
and he was like,
look cute with the baseball hat backwards.
Like, who is this guy?
He's like professing his loved
his best friend and his wife
and he sounds so amazing.
I need to get him on to talk about male vulnerability and all those things.
And that's why I wanted him on.
Yeah.
So you didn't ask about it ends with us, though.
No.
Well, we said, we were like, sorry we're not talking about the movie.
I know you're promoting your movie.
And he's like, it's fine.
Like, he did not care.
He was way happier talking about all the things we were talking about.
Wild, should have about the movie.
Here's how I go.
See, and you would have.
And you would have.
No, I mean, he wouldn't have come in my show.
You probably knew that you were going to talk to him about male vulnerability.
No, no.
Our producer said, is there anything off limits?
And they said no.
Why did we ask him?
What?
He was down to talk about anything.
What are we like trying to have a non-successful podcast?
This is crazy.
Why did he say?
Because Aaron, I don't want to, I was too...
We should have said, give us the tea.
What did you do to you?
I'm okay with off air.
Oh, off air.
We're like having dinner with him.
Stop.
Oh, so you took a side.
No.
Does that mean, but is it really like?
We don't even know if there's actual real beef.
We're just reading tabloids.
There's real as beef, Sarah.
Here's the thing.
We took a side because one person was available to us,
and that's the side we're on now.
Yeah.
Wait, do you guys, because you are...
Actually, I have message with Blake Ladley before.
She's so nice.
She's so done with you now.
You've had to be on the other than you.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
There, you pick it aside.
Yeah, that's it.
Well, I guess I got to close out that DM message because...
Wait, so you are friends.
You grew up.
You were best friends with Kim growing up, no?
I mean, we were best friends, but we were close.
We were close.
We all grew up in the same.
Right.
Like, Nicole Richie and Kim and it was every...
So is there anyone that, like, you do get star-struck by sale or would?
Brad Pitt in the elevator.
That wouldn't.
Oh, you saw him in the elevator?
Yeah.
That is not.
Oh, is he really hot?
Listen, I didn't see him with my own eyes.
Okay, Jordan and my friend Charles saw him.
But I had just missed me.
It was like sliding doors.
Instagram Charles.
Uh-huh.
They texted me.
They like drop me off.
Wait, you're making it your story and you weren't there.
It's actually insane.
I was going to just let that go.
But now that you're saying it.
No.
That was crazy.
She's like, I saw him.
What?
Okay.
My story changed a little bit.
This is my issue with her.
This is what writers do, you guys.
This is crazy.
Charles and Jordan took me up to my room because of the elevator.
Stop. And on the way down, they see Brad Pitt. I was like, that's not cool.
What did they say? And who was he with?
Jordan said, I knew him because I heard his voice. His voice came before his face. I saw her.
That's all she said, a voice. And he was with his, like, beautiful girlfriend, blah, blah, blah.
Who's the girlfriend?
Inesda. Who is that? Oh, my God. You say it so beautifully.
She dated Paul Wellesley from Vampire Diaries.
Oh, that's a real. Okay.
Okay, I want to play a quick game.
Okay, cool.
you guys. Wait, no, who would I get starstruck by? Oh, who? I don't know.
Benicio del Toro. By the way, people love that story. I got, like, DMed about it.
Which story? Oh, about her on the plane. No, don't you have a Benisiel del Toro story?
She dated him for you now. Yeah. Yeah, but I didn't tell a story, did I? But I think it came up, like, on the pot or something. Wait, really? Yeah. Interesting. You talked about it.
I'm just trying to think what story.
See, but, like, if you talk more about you like that...
Honey, if I talked about a lot of things that I've done,
let me tell you.
No, because I'm telling you, there are things that, like, pop up for me.
And that was like...
And I feel like, yeah, people love that story.
Anyway, he is a very...
Wait, but what story is.
By the way, I don't know what the story is.
But I just watched his movie, Sicario.
Have you seen that?
That movie's so good.
I just recently watched it.
I feel like...
No.
Did I tell the story about how different things were when they did?
Oh, no.
Oh, baggage.
Excess baggage.
What are my favorite movie?
But not.
I never saw that movie.
Phenomenal.
Is that okay today?
Like, it's a peto movie, no.
Wait, he played a peto?
But, like, she's like a girl, though.
Okay.
But did I tell the story about Sarah and him dating
and how different they were?
And, like...
Probably.
Yeah.
Some good stuff there.
Yeah.
So...
That's how, by the way,
nothing but great things to say about him.
Really?
Oh, my God.
Of course.
Is he married?
I don't think so.
World's first podcast.
A.K.A. Nobody wants this.
Mm-hmm.
Right?
No?
Okay, the game. Oh, you didn't say Starstruck. Oh, yeah. Okay, who would it be for me? Would it be like...
A royal? Like, King of Charles. I had tea with Camilla was.
Would you get Starstruck by... At the Wimble did. I had tea with her.
By Margo Robbie? Hmm. Good question. No. Well, rude.
Oh, no, no, no, no. Let me stop. I think, like, I'm a fan of hers. I think she's gorgeous in her mood. But I wouldn't get started. But there would be someone... Who would I get, like, nervous to talk to? That's the thing. I wouldn't be nervous talking to Mark or Robbie. Who would I be?
nervous talking to.
It's like a really intimidating celebrity.
Do you not have an answer?
I get Starstuck all the time.
Erin has her because she saw like a Love Island cast member.
Erin gets, I mean, it's not much for her to get her to blush.
I like get nervous around celebs.
You do?
Yeah, I do.
Really?
It doesn't even matter the level of celeb.
It could be, no, I'm serious.
She just is like, it can't.
Wait, did you get nervous around out of Brody?
No, I don't think so.
Did you watch the OC, both of you?
No? And Aaron was on the O.C.
Oh, I was on your mouth right now.
I was in the car that killed Misha Barton.
She didn't want Adam to know about it.
So she was like, Sarah, if you tell.
I was like, Erin, I feel like you're like a liar.
It's weird that you wouldn't say this, that you were co-stars with him in the O.C.
And so one day we were, I was, we were like, she pissed me off.
And I was like, I'm going to tell Adam right now.
You were in the O.C.
I'm going to go tell him like that.
He still doesn't know.
He'll never know.
He doesn't know.
He doesn't have social media.
He won't listen to this.
guess what? I found out he does know because I did an interview recently to promote the show
and for New York MAG and she told me, she told him. And I was like,
Phoebe, you fully blew up my son. She's like, I'm so sorry. I know. I read that you don't
want him to find out. So I asked him about it. I was like, that's not cool. Do you think he cares?
I mean, it's a little bit, I think it's a little shady. That she didn't tell him.
How do you not mention that? Wait, was it a small role?
I mean, she killed Misha Barton. Small but pivotal.
You like literally killed. She was in the car that murdered Misha.
Wow. You might not recognize me because I had a red hair and a different nose.
But you weren't unrecognizable.
Pretty unrecognizable. I hope that it was unrecognizable because I don't, when I look back, I'm like, whoa.
Those are some interesting choices.
The best part is that when Valentina saw you on Gilmore Girl, she's like, where is she?
She literally was like, I don't see her. Please stop bringing up weird things that I've done.
Why is that weird? You were an actor. I know. Would you do acting? Would you do acting?
Of course. You know, I didn't quit acting. Acting, acting quit me. And I think
it was really the right choice for all of us. Acting quit me. No, I don't want to be an actress again.
Like, Sarah, you wouldn't do an audition? I mean, I don't know. Maybe I would. I don't know.
It became very addicting acting in something where we're the boss. So with barely famous, it was
really nice. No one could yell at me. Oh, I should have my hair back the whole time. Sorry, I just
looked up. You were so ahead of your time with that. I was thinking, you know why? Because, like,
now everybody's trying to do that, like, dead pants stuff. And you guys have your own way. Like, you're not
like dead, like, it's not that exactly.
Yeah.
But it is kind of.
But it's not fun having a show that people, like, love and die for and still talk to us about,
but it just was at the wrong time because not enough people saw it and it could have gone
on for so many seasons.
Every day.
People ask us.
Are you going to bring Barely Famous back?
Are you going to bring back?
So would you?
Well, you can't just, like, bring a show back.
Like, you have to have, there's a ton of money that gets invested into even a small show.
And so someone owns that.
You have to buy it out.
It's like very complicated.
Wait, you don't own it?
No.
No.
Oh.
No.
We sold it.
We sold it.
And it was like VH1.
Yeah.
You know what?
We were paired with candidly Nicole.
Remember that show?
Yes.
Yeah.
That was also a good show.
What's paired with?
Like one airs before the other.
Oh.
They put shows on the same night that they think people, like the same audience.
They were trying to invest in.
What year was it that it came out?
Like 2016, maybe?
Ahead of its time.
Because it was so sarcastic and such dry human.
People called it the blonde curb.
And, like, making...
Can't say that about ourselves, Sarah.
I said people.
It's crazy. It was basically Seinfeld, yeah.
Sarah, you can't give yourself...
Guys, I don't know.
It was...
That's what people called it.
I'm so sorry.
Not my words.
No, can you rewatch it anywhere?
I heard that it's hard...
Like Amazon Prime?
Yeah, you can see it on Amazon.
Oh, I didn't know that.
It's so good, you guys.
I think so.
I think that's what probably made me, like...
It is.
Really into you guys.
Like all those stuff.
It is.
No, because I remember that's what she told me.
I love her.
Sorry.
Okay, you guys ready?
This is canon.
I can't take her anywhere.
Yeah.
But you can because you take her everywhere, Sarah.
I know.
Let's be clear.
I mean, please.
No, you take her and she takes you.
By the way, this morning when I was walking into, when I was walking, no, last night, where was it today?
Somewhere when I was walking into the hotel and there was a paparazzi out front, clearly waiting for Brad.
And I was like, kind of kept my head down, you know, because I don't want to like walk past someone and then like not see me, you know?
And they were like, oh, Sarah.
And I just waved.
I didn't correct it.
Darren.
I hate a paparazzi said Sarah.
That's so embarrassing.
Why does that happen so much?
I've seen that.
Like, you look at us and think that you're not like.
And you, how far apart are you a year and a half?
Yeah.
Well, it's more embarrassing on a situation.
Could you imagine?
I wish we would have said, actually Aaron.
That would have appreciated it then.
That's just that picture saying it's me.
Wait, Aaron and Sarah, a year and a half as a mom now.
Can, like, can you realize?
how crazy that is?
Like, if you had a baby...
Oh, a year and a half is insane.
What is the year and a half?
Well, we clearly, Aaron was an accident.
Yeah.
No one was trying to have...
Guess what she's still here?
Yeah.
No one was trying it.
That wasn't on purpose.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
No way.
A year and a half, you get pregnant right away.
No, like nine months.
I was like nine months.
You were nine months.
No, that doesn't make sense.
Yeah, it does.
No, it's exact sense.
You're pregnant for like a year.
How long are you pregnant for like 10 months?
Oh, you're nine months.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can do it again.
You're annoying.
You would not get pregnant in four months from now.
You would?
I don't know.
She's too positive sometimes.
I put five years between my kids.
Yeah, she's, you're like Courtney Kardashian.
Like, I'm in my bubble.
I'm in, like, my baby...
I'm very...
She's so Courtney Kardashian.
She is.
I'm in my, like, everything's amazing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can talk shit.
So can Courtney.
Yeah.
I mean, like, you're very positive about the baby stuff.
Yeah, well, I mean, listen.
I know.
I'm not about to, like, finally get here and then, like, complain about it.
You know, and you've been so...
I mean, now I feel like a lot more people are sharing about it, right?
On social media, but you've always been very outspoken and I'm open about your...
But listen, I get it of being a mom's hard.
Yeah.
I don't have complaints yet.
At all.
I mean, I'm tired.
I'm very tired.
Well, did Joy leave yet?
Joy is leaving on Sunday.
Okay, so when Joy leaves, we'll check in, okay?
Check in with me when you're bathing.
You don't understand.
Okay, let's play the game.
It's not a crazy game at all, and I keep on like...
Paving it up.
It better be.
Just like a who's who's, who's.
Oh, this is like, no.
Sarah's like really.
It's actually not.
It's actually not good.
But we'll just end with the game.
Okay.
Who's more reliable?
Me,
100 million percent.
Sarah?
Well,
I need to explain yourself.
I think you're more reliable
in the day to day.
But I think if it was like bury this dead body with me,
you want to call me.
Bail me out of jail.
Make this thing happen.
I don't know if that's what I'm to be proud of.
But yeah, sure.
But like day to day mundane shit, Aaron.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I would say you post it.
important stuff.
Did you post like something that she literally doesn't answer your text like for days?
For days.
That was not true.
You said it.
You said it.
And then we pulled out the receipts and it wasn't exactly how you said it.
Oh, she exaggerated again for content?
She's an exaggerator.
Well.
If the camera, if Montana could have a microphone right now, she would have so much to say.
She has answers.
She would have so much to say.
Who is the better listener?
Ooh.
Oh, I thought Aaron you were going to say you.
I think me.
Really?
Honestly, here's what I'll say.
I think we're both bad listeners.
Oh.
Yeah.
Why?
Because we're always thinking about what we're going to say next.
You know, we're always like ready to like, do, chich, ch-ch-ch-ch.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
You agree?
Sure.
Okay.
Who's the better partner?
Oh, like in the work relationship?
Not in yours.
Like in a relationship.
In a romantic relationship.
Oh, Aaron.
I mean, Aaron's a professional wife.
Professional wife.
I'm a proud wife.
No, I don't want to tell you, guys, what I heard.
I listen to most of your birth podcast.
What?
What?
I don't even want to say it.
It's going to be triggering.
You're going to have to say it.
That you fucking gave Simon a blowjob like two days after.
Oh, yeah.
Well, he demands a lot of blow jobs.
Why do that?
That's crazy.
It is, like, if my husband knew that.
She probably gave him a blowjob while she was in later.
She's like, my water broke.
Get over here.
Because it's going to be a couple hours before I could do it again.
No, Erin, the fact like you weren't even healed yet and you were like,
let me take care of you was actually insane.
I respect it.
It really is.
So, by the way, they're going to be married forever.
Right.
That's, no.
They will be married forever.
I don't know.
He just, like, put so much energy into, like, the things that make me happy that it's
like, the least I can do.
That's so cute, Erin.
I don't know.
How many years are you together?
Six?
Okay.
That's good.
We're coming up on seven.
I saw this famous woman recently and she goes to me, by the way, I don't know why she
said this.
I'm trying to remember.
But we're at an event and she says to me, like, by the way, I have these.
like libido pills, I swear by, like, I'll talk about them later. And I was like, why would
I want them? Oh, because I just gave birth. That's what she said to me. So she assumed that...
What's a libido pill? Makes you more horny? Yeah. It's like a Viagra for women. Yeah.
Oh. Because she asked me about, like, just having a baby. And then I was like, why would I want
them? She's like, so you can stay married, honey? It felt like a very Samantha Jones moment.
Yeah. And I was like, yeah, Erin will stay married. Okay, so she's the better partner.
Who made worse choices in life? Erin. I made really bad choices. I did. It's true. I made some
really bad choices. Yeah. It's so crazy because she looks like good girl, like non-toxic, but
like... No, but really, I'm the good girl. I never made any... Right, but you're like the non-drugs.
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Because I was in so many bad relationships. I was like, I drank. I like, I don't
know. I was more rebellious in some... Really? That's wild. Okay. So, favorite daughter? Who's your
mom's actual favorite right now? I mean, I feel like it was me. Remember she told me all the fear that's my
shoulders yesterday? I mean...
You're really good at staying connected to her.
I mean, here's the thing.
I call our mom just to say hi.
Just to check in because I know.
Every day?
Yeah, I do.
Every day.
And I like catching up with her.
She lives with me currently.
But when she wasn't living with me, no, I was not doing it.
Sarah doesn't call family members just to say hi.
No.
Just if there is something to discuss.
Usually.
I mean, that's not true.
No, sometimes I'll call to say what's up.
But I'm not, I'm just not as good as Aaron at it.
Okay.
All right.
Striking a nerve?
No.
With who?
I call my mom, like, a few times a day, I think.
A few times today?
But you guys all still live in the same place?
My mom lives in my building, yeah.
So cute.
But wait, is that...
She doesn't live in my building anymore.
But it used to be that the sisters...
And the mom?
And the mom, all separately in different apartments.
That's like a dream.
No, it's amazing.
It's actually when you have kids.
I know, people think, but it's not...
She works.
My mom.
Right.
So it's not like you can just drop the kids.
Right.
Yeah.
Okay.
So it's cute.
No, cute.
Just not like, people are like, oh, you know.
But are you still living in the same building you've always lived in?
Yeah, I just moved to a bigger apartment.
You just love where you live.
Who's your dream guest?
You know what I used to say?
I used to say Britney Spears.
Oh.
Wouldn't you want to know all the things?
I think so, yeah.
And now?
She was like open.
No.
No.
I have zero interest.
Really?
Literally zero interest on that tea.
Oh.
No, I love Brittany.
Are you kidding?
No, I don't.
But when you say tea, like, right, it's not like tea.
It's like, how are you?
But that one video...
that I am really upset by that.
I mean, there have been multiple videos,
but the one where she was yelling at her sons,
you know,
the fact that she got attacked for that,
that was so upsetting to me.
Like, all she was doing was saying,
I'm having a hard time as a mom.
And you guys are teenage boys
and you're being so hard on me
and you're blah, blah, blah.
And she got so ridiculed for yelling at her.
I wouldn't be like,
if you had a camera on me yelling at my,
I'd be in jail.
I mean, not jail because I don't do anything,
you know, physical.
But I get so fucking.
Yeah, you yell a lot.
Oh, yeah.
She just gets so fresh.
I have an almost 14-year-old teenage daughter.
Who's so cool, right?
She's so cool, and she pushes all of my buttons.
Did she wear, like, one of my merch, but she, like, wore it super big and, like, cut
it or something.
Yeah, so cool.
She is your mirror.
No, it's, in ways that, she is Sarah.
God's on every single level.
Do you think you're going to be a different parent than Sarah?
Like, you, how are you similar to her?
I mean, it's so different because I'm starting at such a different point in my life.
Yeah.
But, like, I think I'm going to probably be a more, a bit.
more conventional parent.
I mean, Simon's really traditional.
Yeah.
He's like really focused on manners.
He, I had to debate with him the other day because he wanted Noah to be saying
Mr. and Mrs. to people when they meet their parents.
I was like Simon.
This is like, she can't be doing that.
He's already.
But by the way, how cute that our kids have the same name.
I know.
Oh, important that the rabbi is named Noah.
Like I, it made me so happy about naming my son Noah because I realized how good it sounds.
Oh, like an adult man.
Yes.
Sounds good.
that's hot, but it just sounded so good.
First of all, it's important for you to realize that your son
can be like a hot man. I mean, that's a good thing.
I'm just scared of the people. By the way, Lenny's
hot. Yeah, Lenny's a hot name. Lenny is
no, yes, you know, I love the name Lenny.
Yeah. I told you that was my favorite when we were deciding names.
Yeah. But Lenny as the baby, he's hot. He's a hot baby. He's a hot baby. I don't know
that you should say babies are hot. Guess what? I did. I'm in front of a
microphone. I know I'm on camera and I think your baby's hot. Oh my God. No, he's so
cute. He's so cute. You have like beautiful babies.
Thank you.
Not gonna what.
But they're already here, they're beautiful.
So I'll tell you, like, the second time, like with Noah, I was in the trenches.
Like, you're saying you had a baby at a different point in your life.
I'm my first one, in the trenches all day, every day.
I didn't have time to be like, you're so cute with Lenny.
I'm like, I have time to just look at him from afar sometimes, you know?
And be like, he's so cute.
By the way, you posted something about him.
He is like just like carrying his head up and like, I mean, Noah cannot do that.
I think they say, is that true Sarah's second.
kids are, like, more advanced in the first...
I don't know.
My second kid is, like, it's different parents.
Like, I do think we maybe need to do a DNA test.
Why?
So different.
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Two...
They're from different planets.
Like in what way?
Josie.
Just in their disposition and the way they look in their...
I mean, it's just...
Are they not...
Josie is like a little rule follower.
She's like, am I allowed to do this?
Okay, Auntie, thank you.
And Valentine's like, go fuck yourself.
I'll do what I want.
No, me.
That is wild.
But Josie is an empath in a way...
Yeah, it's crazy.
But being an empath is really great, but it's almost too much.
Yeah.
She's so sensitive.
She feels everything.
I mean, if she sees you step on an aunt, she will have, she'll be like, how could you do?
I mean, she's so.
But it's not like overly emotional.
That's not what, she's not overly emotional.
She's just connected to this other frequency.
Yeah, she really is.
And Valentina is not.
They're both special in really different ways.
Yeah.
really different.
They're not like you and me.
They're both amazing.
They're both amazing.
They're just different.
Is she still as good as an on as she was before?
Honestly, totally.
Really?
Yeah, totally.
That's really impressive.
Which is shocking because I would always say, I'm like, once you have your baby,
your nieces and nephews, it's going to be a whole, completely.
Josie.
Yeah.
I was, honestly, I was scared that my feelings were going to change.
Yeah.
That would make, honestly, would make sense.
Yeah, because they were like my kids and everyone kept going,
you're going to love your child.
It's going to be so different.
You see Josie almost more now.
different in the sense that it's your baby. But, like, I, my desire to be close to Josie,
I'd say that only because Josie's only one who's like, you know, comes and hangs over.
Yeah.
Oh, Valentine's isn't into you anymore?
Not unless, like...
She's not into anybody. She's under her, you know, friends.
Yeah.
But I really love having Josie before.
I don't want to tell you what I was doing in 14.
I don't want to know. Okay. Don't want to know.
I mean, I grew up here, though.
Yeah.
You know? Yeah. I've seen kids.
No, it's...
But luckily, Valentina, she's still Vivi.
She's still innocent.
in a lot of ways.
All of her friends have, you know, tried the drinking, kissing the boys, all of that.
She has not done any of that yet.
She's still very, that is, those are the areas she's still innocent in, but her attitude is wild.
And she's not scared of you.
No.
Yeah.
No.
She's not.
She thinks we're huge losers.
She, I said to the other day.
She is very excited about the show.
She's obsessed with Love Island.
Oh, my God.
She was like, I really want to come to the premiere.
Like, I want to go to a premiere where you, like, dress up.
Wait, are you having a full-on premiere?
No, we're having more of the screening thing here about it.
but obviously you're not going to fly in for that.
Should I post?
Like, wish I could be there
so people knew I was invited.
I was invited.
Okay.
I'm so sorry I couldn't come.
Oh, can't believe I'm missing it.
I hated to have to say no.
Yeah.
I think you should.
Erin and Sarah,
thank you so much for coming on.
I'm so excited for everybody
watch a show.
Nobody wants this.
It's going to be on Netflix.
It's going to be number one.
Better be.
Trending top 10.
And buy favorite daughter
and listen to World's First podcast.
Yeah.
We all do, babe.
Thank you guys so much for listening.
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