Not Skinny But Not Fat - Everyone’s Fave BFF w/ Simon Huck

Episode Date: January 3, 2023

I had the pleasure of meeting Simon Huck earlier this year and I legit fell in love. We’ve seen him on The Kardashians, the ever loyal BFF- but today we get to know him. Not only how hilarious he is but how he got to where he is today, how was it working for Jonathan Cheban? What was his first PR gig in NYC? How did he meet the Kardashians? Which of the Kardashians was a celeb personal assistant? And more! Get ready to giggle!      Produced by Dear Media This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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can't wait to see you next week this is amanda hirsch from the not skinny but not fat podcast you might know me from not skinny but on instagram where i spend my time talking about reality tv celebrities everything happening and pop culture i also talk to some of our favorite celebs and reality tv stars we talk about what's going on tune in every tuesday and just feel like you're talking to show with your best friends in your living room. Guys, Simon Huck is here today, but by popular request and demand, most of it is me. There was. I sent you the screenshot. It was like one person out of 17,000 DMs you got.

But mostly it's me because Simon Huck, you all know him. That's the thing. And I told you for the last couple of times that I've seen you, like, you make me laugh like no other person. I like kneel on the floor. Every time I'm with you, I need to like hold on to like something. I love you. Neil die. And that's just one of your amazing qualities.

So I was like, you need to come on the podcast. You're so mysterious. You think? I mean... I feel like I lay it all out. Oh, you lay it... Your whole social media is reposting what people post. What are you laying out?

When are you laying in? No, that just triggered me because you know what? Is it bad? I just think it's so nice when someone supports one of the seven brands I have. So I like to show the... I repost everything. No, I repost too. It's like so gross.

I don't want... I repost when it's not my brand. No. Someone's like, I bought Ugs because of you. You repost every smoothie ever invented. You are actually working at Arawan. That's a trigger because you know I'm done with that. I'm done supporting other people's smoothies.

You just posted one yesterday. Not what I said. What I said, don't pose me in them anymore. Right. It's enough. It's enough. Like, it's unrelated to me. I haven't tried any of the smoothies.

But what I mean is you are missing, what are you laying out? You want me to do more like direct to camera. No, I don't want you to like do a Q&A. Oh my God. Maybe do a Q&A. No one, like, what do they want to know? They want to know. I just, I get, I think I'm like everyone else who, like, dread social media.

I get nervous when it's like about me. Really? Yeah. Like, when I'm talking to camera, like, I look at it and I'm like, what are you doing? Who is this creature? No, but you crack me up because I think that I can tell when you're feeling that way and it makes me laugh even more. Like when I do my de-blote gummy. No, that's what I'm saying.

The deep-blote and the whole thing about when you do it. travel. I'm like, he's doing the traveling thing again. Why? Why just when you travel? Because I don't know if you feel like this, but I'm inspired. When I travel, all my demons, like, they're dissolving in front of my, like, in front of me. Like I go on the plane and I'm like, I come up with an idea. I'm like, oh, I should do an Instagram story about la la la, la, and I do it. But then when I'm in my office, I'm just like, I don't know, I'm not. Nothing comes up for you. Nothing comes up. Nothing bubbles. Nothing bubbles. Okay. So let's go back. to the story you were starting to tell, but before we started, which is just a funny little

anecdote that Sophia Hutchins. Is she dating Caitlin Jenner? She's friends with her? No. So she, it's a mystery for a lot of people. She is just her friend. Yeah. She's her manager. Oh, I didn't know the managing. Nope. They are not. She actually has this incredible sunscreen. She's like a businesswoman. Like, wow. Like a boss. Like she raised venture capital. She has this amazing company that's this, it's like a sunscreen company that like goes on. And I don't I don't know what it. I don't say I don't know what it does. Did you repost? I definitely reposted it. And I think I even did an Instagram story. But it was like a year ago. So like, whoop, fish memory. Okay. So Sophia Hutchins, a lot of people know her now because she hangs around Caitlin Jenner a lot.

Yeah. Manages. I didn't know that. Yes. It was just a funny story because you were reposting all the birthday love. Yes. You just turned. A hundred. I actually turned 100. I turned 39. You're so dramatic. But in gay years, I just want everyone. I want our listeners to know what that means in gay New York years. Okay.

I am a retiree. I am literally a retiree. I can't. Like, I just, yeah. Is it because Phil is like three? No, and do you see what Phil's posting lately, the five pictures and the shirtless pictures? No, he's thirsting. The hunger.

her. The gym. I walked in. We were staying. The blurry. No, I know. He's like, oh, my young friends think this is. I'm like, young friends. You're literally my contemporary. You're 33. I know. He does look really young. Not that you don't look young, but Phil is like a BB. He's a BB. He's a BB. And he's like. He's a BB. And he's like. He's not. But 30, I'm 33. I feel like he looks younger than me. That's annoying. And I think that's a gap. Like when we started dating, he was 26. I was whatever that would be like 33. No. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. He was. 26 and I was 32. Oh. Okay. So that's a pretty big gap. Like in 26 and like he had, you know, he had one boyfriend prior to me. And I knew. I was like, I have found someone who's untouched. Do you like that?

I like someone who isn't in the mix. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, I feel like your husband is also like not in the mix. Yeah. Oh. He's like he's. Antimix. He's anti-mix. Well, you're not even in the, I mean, you are in the mix. He didn't, he, do you mean, do you mean,

the mix, like the industry? I mean, well, I actually meant the gay mix. Oh, no, that's what I, that's what I, that's what I understood. I meant the gay mix. Yeah, like, you don't want to, like, someone to marry someone who's hooked up with, like, a hundred people that you know. 157 people. And also who, like, knows what horse meat disco is, like that reference, which you,

as like, somehow you knew what that was. Because of a guest that was on. Oh. I told you. Which, remind? Caramo. Oh, right. Yeah.

And then I, and I asked you, because. you're very like zero bond like you know and i was like why aren't we going to horse meat first all i love i love horse meat i love i've never been to horse meat dis first of all the gays don't want me there they're like shirtless vibing out and touching each other i am like an old lady with my cane having my vodka soda and like yeah you know it's not for you but wait so see my cue cards are going to go to shit because of you i'm so honored you did cues for me was it the intern who did then you're reading them for the first time. What intern, babe? Oh, no intern? We know that I'm not that kind of vibe. Oh. Anyway, the Sophia Hutchin thing, I can't believe I'm still trying to go back

to this. Are you, where are you looking? Should I be looking? No, this is just when I'm like doing an office moment. Oh, okay. You get it? You guys. Right, but I don't know. No one's watching this. No, I know, but I don't look there, right? That's fine. Oh, am I supposed to? There were no instructions prior to coming on. If you want to do an office moment, like, this went. I got it. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. What I thought was funny is that Sophia Hutchins, who you probably, like, met once, the only picture she thought to post of you for your birthday was your Botox ad. Okay. And I thought, so funny.

Not only was it my Botox ad, which is like, whatever, obviously I take Botox, but I do what you have to do. I did a endorsement during my wedding because I was using Botox, and I love Botox, whatever. And so she reposted it as my birthday tribute. But, like, as part of being a Botox ambassador, a proud ambassador, you have to put all sorts of like legal jargon. So the entire post is legal jargon. It's like six paragraphs of like FDA disclosures. And then that was my repost, which I then reposted. That is one of the funniest things. And it just, I think things that make me laugh like this are because of the world we live in.

Yeah. Yeah. And like, you know, people will just try to find the picture. Yeah. You know what I mean? And that's what she did. quickly she googled you maybe that's okay anyway okay she went quick no I appreciate it was kind of her though yeah thank you Sophia yeah thank you Sophia and you know what just about birthday post like I wrote you a message you want me a really really nice message and then I was like and then I had a debate I'll share this with you I was like I want to post our thing because we're cute oh the skin thing yeah that was like when we met I know I loved it but then like I see all these other, like, influencers, you know, being like, have me brand new time. I'm like,

ugh, this is so lame. You know what I mean? You felt it was performing, like, it was performative. Like, I felt like other people were being performative. And then, like, I don't want to feel like I'm part of that. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. No, you're not. I know. We're real friends. But, I mean, I think it's just like Instagram and has now just become that. I know. It's wild. It's like everyone, even like anytime there's a star birthday, when I'm like looking on my feed, I see people who are posting in feed tributes to, I don't know. Well, me. Like, no.

But, like, even people that don't even know the person, they're like, happy birthday. So, and I'm like, do you, have you met them? But how nice is it when it's your birthday and everyone's posting for you? I said this to Phil, and he was like, shut up. I was like, I've never felt so seen on my, like, you really do feel the love. Yeah, you really do. Because do you remember when people used to post on your wall on Facebook? Yes.

You know that now I didn't, I should take my birthday at all, but There's, like, two. There's two. Yeah, I don't have my login anymore to Facebook. But I think I looked like my last birthday and it was like a club promoter that wished me happy birthday and like an aunt. You know what I mean? Right.

It's so random. It used to be like how many did you get like 237? I was late on the Facebook game. So I never mastered. I'm having a listerine. I know. What's your deal with those? I mean, if Listerine, if you're listening, you should sponsor me.

No, he's with these Listerine strips. At strips and at bye-bye, baby to baby, I keep calling it by-bye baby, and it's deeply insulting. It is like funding millions of dollars for diapers. No, I said it while I was at the event. I was like, so how are you involved with bye-bye baby? They were like, so I was a hit. People, strangers, you don't even know me that while we're tapping me on the shoulder. Can I have a strip?

And I'm like, I'm here to serve. People love them. So the first time I heard, it was wild to me because we were at the, and this isn't dropping, this is just real. When we're at the boo-ho show and Food God said to you, do you have a Listerine strip? And that was the first time.

And then you were like, yes. And I was like, what am I? And I was like, right, no alcohol, no food, no drinks, you guys. Don't go to fashion shows. So I was like, wait, he knew that you had that it's like a known thing. So we get deep here. No, so I've been with the strips for 10 years. And I order, they're on the subscribe and save on Amazon.

So I get the... No, I'm dying. Yeah. And then for our wedding, we did like a bejeweled Listerine strip for all the guests. And they still haven't sponsored you? No, they're very kind. Listerine, I see you. What, they sent?

They don't send, but they don't send. Actually, I pay full market value. But they did the crystallized things for the wedding, which is really nice. Oh, that's nice. And then as a wedding gift, they did a doll reproduction of me and Phil holding strips, which was beautiful. Wait, so this is a real thing. It runs deep. It runs deep.

Can I try one? Oh, my God. Absolutely. So, so many people take, but then they shove their hands in? They take their, yeah, but it's just their finger and then they take what they've touched. Is this going to help me smell good for my mouth? I just like it. It gives me like a pep.

I feel like you're going to die one day and they're going to find out that it was because of the Lestrain's trip. Well, the ingredients are wild. Anyway, okay, this is, I'm getting to my first subject just now. by the way. Okay. You're Canadian. People don't know until you say like a boot. Or sorry. We're sorry. Those are my trigger words. I love it. Yeah. Those are my trigger words. First of all, it makes sense because Canadians are so nice and you're so nice. Thank you. Except a little bitchy. Yeah, a little. Am I? Am I? I? I mean, I would not like you if you were. Yeah, a little edge. When I first moved here, I moved in 2005 and I worked for

food God, Ben Jonathan and this woman named Lizzie Grubman. Do you remember Lizzie? I know. I do. I know who she is. I remember. This is a true story. My producer had emailed her about one of her clients coming on my show. No, wait for it. Oh. And it was like, hey, does your, and this was when I just started, like, not a lot of people knew me. But it was like a reality star. Yeah. And it was like, hey, like we want for her to come on not to get out podcast. And Lizzie Grubman did a role. reply all when she meant to forward it to her client and like like how do you want me to get rid of like get rid of them right like something like that that's a that was my only experience so you work so wait you're jumping you're not letting me oh sorry yeah you're Canadian yes born and raised in Canada yes we're in Canada which is the nation's capital oh yeah okay so I grew up in Ottawa and then I went to school in a town called Kingston which is like a small university town and then I moved to New York right from there. Do you still love Canada? Oh, my second wedding was in Canada. I love Canadians. They're so

sweet. It's like a just the vibe is completely different, but I'm still very proud, although I'm an American citizen now. That's, wait, because of Phil. No, no, no, no, I would not give him that. No, no, no, I did it on my own. Oh, with like work. Work. Like, it took me 15 years. Wow. Yeah, they don't make it easy. It's wild because you don't realize that, like, Canada is a separate country and you do need to you need to show a lot of paperwork we did interviews i had to get people to write me letters it was a whole thing okay as we know i mean i'm talking to my ladies i'm talking my ladies over here i mean men experience hair laws but i know my listeners they are the ladies okay and like 30 million women are impacted by weakened or thinning hair um this can happen from stress hormones

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Okay, so I want to know that when you were growing up, did you, did Little Simon know he wanted to be in the industry? Okay, so Little Simon didn't even know what the industry was. Like, Little Simon was like, I live in Canada. Like, what am I going to do here? And I thought that I wanted to be a lawyer. Like, I remember being like, ooh, I'm going to be a lawyer. Because I had watched Allie McBeal. And I was like, oh, she's a vibe.

I'm into Allie. And then I, from that, I started my degree in political science at Queens, this school in Kingston. And I always had a subscription to us weekly. Like, since I was like, whenever the magazine started, I was there. And people. And like my stocking stuff for at Christmas would be all the tabloids. And I would like circle all the people. And I was fascinated with like the agent and the manager. Like whoever was like walking them down the carpet. I was like, how do I get that? Oh. So you didn't want to be famous. You wanted to be around it. No. No. I never wanted to be famous. But I was fascinated by like the mechanics of fame. And back then like it was just like it was newspapers, right? Like it was newspapers and magazines. So in college, I had a retail job. I worked at like wherever. And I was looking through. and us weekly while I should have been serving a customer. And I saw a picture of Lizzie Grubman.

And that's how it started. Stop. What you? So you reached out to her? I reached out to her office. I cold called every single day. How old were you when you were doing this? 20.

You reached out to her office, cold called, said what? I said, I will work for free. I'll do whatever I can. I just really want to work for you. And at that time, I didn't even know what she did. I thought maybe she represents people. I thought she represented Madonna. I had no.

Because the idea that, like, You're a publicist, but you're around celebrities. Like, I thought it only meant one thing. And now it means a whole lot. It's like a huge industry. Yeah. So that's how it started with Lizzie. So, but that worked for you?

Well, it was very unsuccessful in the beginning. Yeah. I would call every single day. I would speak to her, like, then CFO, he would hang up on me. And then finally, someone picked up and was like, oh, well, if you're in New York, come in for an interview at like 3 o'clock on a Thursday or maybe Friday, whenever you feel like it. And I was like, oh, that's a job interview.

So I called my parents. I'm like, big news. I have a job offer. And like I actually had like $17. So I like to get me to New York was like a feat. Yeah. So I'm like, how am I going to get here? So like we have this airline in Canada called Air Canada.

Yeah. And like we had air miles. So I flew in. I stayed on the sofa of like a friend of a friend. And I went in for my job interview, which like was totally unscheduled. Like they were like, who is this criminal in our lobby? And Lizzie. Wait, did you like dress up?

I wore. No, I'm dying. No, it was criminal. I wore, did you guys have United Colors of Benaton? Was that a brand in this country? Okay, it was the brand in Canada. And there was a khaki suit that was shiny and iridescent. And so I wore a khaki suit. No, dying, dying. Cacky blazer, khaki pants and these square toe diesel shoes, which I thought were. Wait, what color were the shoes? Oh, I like black and like shiny and like an acrylic material. It was in a tuckton t-shirt. It was sung. glasses that were like actually like the simple life sunk like they were so crazy and I wore I remember wearing it on air Canada like I wore it I remember where like getting on the plane being like they don't know but I'm going to Hollywood like I was so but I was so excited like I was like this I had never been in New York I had been in New York once prior but stayed at the Weston on 42nd Street that's actually not New York and I had only been there for like 12 hours so I was very excited. And you came for this like non-scheduled. Non-scheduled, not a real interview. And so I walk into Lizzie's office. I'm in the lobby. Like at the time she was filming a show called Power Girls.

I remember it. Yeah, the Power Puffs. So there were these four girls who were like running PR in New York City. And so the camera crews were inside the office. I was like, I'm actually famous. I was so excited. And then Jonathan was there. Jonathan was there. And he, as I walked in, he was like, what are who doing here. And at the time, I was an air traffic controller. So I spoke with my hands. No, you really were. I was like, I'm so excited to be here. And he was like, are you okay? He literally was like, are you okay? And I was like, I'm okay. He's like, you're using your hands a lot. This is like sentence too. And I'm like, okay. New York's abusive. Like I immediately learned that like I would have to toughen up to like get a job in the city and to work for them. So two hours later,

I met with Lizzie. I think Jonathan was kind of intrigued by like my endless... Outfit. Yeah. Both the outfit. They were so mean about the outfit. They were. I didn't know it at the time, but they kept asking like, tell us about your...

Like, Lizzie's like, Lizzie was like, tell me about your outfit. Like, do you have other interviews today? Is somebody forcing you to wear it? I just, I didn't know like the sarcasm until like I got the job and I was like, oh my God, they were so mean. Oh, it's like a nice. mean girls like I really love your your bracelet yeah fully fully well Jonathan especially he was like I mean that's his like kind of his love language is like playfully teasing at the time I was 20

yeah so it was not playful for me is he your age no he oh my god I'm he won't listen to this he's a decade older than I am shush yeah so I don't even know you know that I asked him his age when I met him and he wouldn't tell me yeah I'm so sorry food God But, like, it's on the internet. So he's, this will be his 50th this coming year. Wow. Yeah. So he, okay.

So was he working with Lizzie at the time? So it was called Grubman-Chevin PR. And they had a PR company together. And they were kind of these hot shots running at the time. I don't know if you remember this, but like New York nightlife was a thing. Yeah. Like it had star publicists and like celebrities were going to nightclubs. Like, it was, Lindsay Lohan was like.

Right. It was like the era of. Oversized Rachel Zoh bangles and like Nicole Richie and Paris Hilton. Right. TMC was kind of just starting. And that's when I really started my career. Wait, so they, did they tell you on the spot if you're going to start? Well, first of all, I was an unpaid internship.

So it wasn't like a big, it wasn't like I landed the dream job. And they were like, you can just like get us coffee and get us lunch twice a week. And if you want to start, you can. but there's no guarantee of ever having a job. So I called my parents. That was like, huge news. I got the job. And they were like, that's amazing.

What's the pay? What's the compensation? We spent like one billion dollars on your education. So like, what are you going to be getting? And I'm like, I said, you know, it's a three month trial. I just like, I told lie after lie. I'm like, it's a three month trial. There's like a big industry.

Publicists do really well. It's a lucrative industry, which anyone who's listening who's a publicist And I was like, that's not the vibe. Like most people at the time who worked in entertainment PR had very wealthy parents who, you know, like a lot of them grew up in New York City. Like it was a glam job to have, but not a job for someone who did not have cash. So that was like the beginning. So they so so you moved for this on-paid internship. I moved a week later.

But did you finish school? So I had three other credits, which I did online. I think people didn't even think I graduated. was like this big rumor going right like like my college town i'm so i'm going to like google it call the registrar's office i'm going to talk to the rumor view i'm going to be like listen he did start stuttering yeah about the finished college i didn't i finished it online and i was 20 years old like living on the sofa of my friend melissa gray who is still one of my is one of my best friends and she was like a travel publicist and i just lived under her sofa for a year wow

And did you end up getting a job? It was kind of a crazy. It was a crazy journey. So they did not pay me for a year. And so I was... How did you live? Did your parents support? Credit cards, parents, like I had just very little money.

But, you know, you're 20 years old. You're in the greatest city ever. Yeah. You don't need a lot. Yeah. You know, the clothing was scary. Like, I wasn't going to dinners. Yeah.

I remember John and then would invite me to dinner. Yeah. And I'd be like, I am not ordered. one thing because you know you're 20 years old and he's like do you want to come to nobu i'm like yes but i will be drinking and eating water like i was such a kid yeah everything was so impressive to me that is so let's take a moment like where you are today and like where you started i think it's so important for people to like see that when people want something and like you wanted this. And it doesn't even have to make sense.

Like, you wanted something that you didn't even really know what it was. I thought that what Lizzie and, I thought that Lizzie like was an event producer. I thought that she threw events. I thought I would be like lighting candles at a dinner party. Like, I didn't really know. Wait, didn't you do? So I read that

your first event was the Diddy White party in the Hampton. Yes. Yes. It was insane. So it was event. So you did an event. It was, yes. What Lizzie and Jonathan did was they procured celebrities. to attend events. Mm-hmm.

They did red carpets. So they would invite all the red carpet media. They would bring the photographers. And then they would do all the event press around it. And event press, like back then was like, it was a big deal. Like sponsors kind of not ruined things, but ruined things. Like now it's like presented by Samsung. Like back then it wasn't.

It was just like a party to throw a party. Yeah. And it was the era of butter. I don't know if you were, do you remember butter, the nightclub? Oh my God. Yes. Yes. Yes.

So butter Monday nights was like. Like, it was like royalty. It was like every star. Wait, and could you go then as an... I... So, funny story. Yes, I went to Butter. I went as Jonathan's assistant.

I went as his intern. So I would be like holding his bag kind of thing. Wow. And I was just there, quiet, nervous. And it's there that I met Brittany Gassnow. Yes. Who back then was on a show called The Gasnow Girls. Watched.

Loved. It was good. Well, she was the beginning. I mean, Brittany and Lisa. Lisa had like, they were the beginnings of reality TV. It was Jessica Simpson in the newlyweds, Nick Lechlechay. It was the Osbournes and it was Brittany and Lisa. And Brittany and Lisa were one of the first anchor shows of E.

Wow. Before that, it was Anna Nicole Smith. Right. The poor, I mean, she passed away on that network. Yeah. So, yeah, so I had met Brittany at Butter on Monday night, and I was like, oh my God, who is this glamorous, like, a beautiful girl with her glamorous mom? I mean, Lisa is, like, a stunner.

And six months after that, Brittany introduced us to Kim. Oh, I love how he knows all the things I'm going to ask. Yeah. They're just like making it happen. Well, that's, it's just. Everything happened that way. Like one thing led to another. Yeah.

And at the time, Kim and Brittany were really close. That was 2000 end. This is when the days I'm going to mess up. This is probably. Well, in 2013, you already like had your own company. Yeah. It's way before that. Oh, yeah.

So probably 2007. Oh, wow. 2006 or seven yeah wow and at the time Kim was not on a reality show obviously she was a closet organizer and she was working i think with brandy at the time she was like styling brandy really yeah and she had a store called smooch i remember from the show yeah so that like that was how it all started so wow so you actually met the Kardashians before they were like before they blew up Well, and take a step back, I was Jonathan's personal assistant for two years. And Jonathan at the time was best friends with Nicole Richie.

And this is the simple lifetime. And Chloe was Nicole Richie's personal assistant. So Chloe and I used to be like waiting for our bosses outside of a restaurant. Shut the fuck up. Yeah. Wait, Chloe was Nicole. I feel like I know this, but I, Chloe was Nicole's personal assistant. Yes.

It was short, it was short lived. But she, yeah, Chloe has gone on to like buy a country and here I am. But no, she, she was her assistant and I was Jonathan's personal assistant. So I was like running to subway to get him like his six inch sandwich. Wait, so when did you move to L.A.? Because you lived in L.A. with him. I did. I did.

So we moved to L.A. So we started going to L.A. a lot. And Jonathan really wanted to do a TV show. I think he, from the very beginning, Jonathan was never meant to be a publicist or work in like what I think he would call the service industry. Yeah. He wanted to be the talent. It was very obvious that he wanted to be on TV. He wanted a reality show, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

So we started going and talking about doing a show. And him and Kim really wanted to do a show based on our company, which was at the time called Command PR. Okay. So wait, just to give context, you were his intern slash assistant. at Lizzie, and then both of you together started CommandPR. So this is when it gets a little bit murky. So a year into the partnership, Jonathan and Lizzie ended their relationship. And it was kind of a Jerry McGuire moment where Lizzie told me before telling Jonathan

and was like, I am going to end this partnership. And do you want to stay working with me or do you want to work with Jonathan? And I called Jonathan 10 minutes after she had that conversation with me. And I said, this is what I just heard from Lizzie. I want you to know that it's probably going to happen tomorrow. And I think the item had already been placed in page six. Back then, page six was kind of like the one-stop shop for all gossip. This is before TMZ.

And so we had basically, Jonathan basically called me an hour later and was like, okay, let's, let's go do our own thing. You're going to be promoted from assistant to whatever, and we're going to start the company again. Because he had already had command PR for 10, 10, 12 years prior. Oh. Yeah. Yeah. So Lizzie was working with him under the command PR thing? Under their own separate partnership.

But Jonathan had been working in the industry for years. Oh, okay. So he really just took a pause from the company to restart this or to start this partnership with Lizzie. I see. But he wanted you in the new thing. Yeah. Okay. Yeah.

That felt good, no? It felt good. I mean, I was still so young that like everything, like now that I look back in retrospect, everything was exciting, but also. so nerve-wracking. Yeah. I don't think I found my confidence living in New York City in the industry that I was in until years later.

Yeah. If that makes sense. No, totally. The imposter syndrome of like being around all these people in this industry, I was like, oh my God, I'm such a misfit. Yeah. Like, what do I bring to the table? But you bring a lot.

Well, I mean, thank you. At the time, I did not feel like I was bringing a lot. I was like, I'm an intern. I know nothing. My clothing is whack. Wait, okay, so you go with Jonathan Telly and you decide to live there and not just travel for like work? So we start splitting our time and then we develop a TV show that Kim is the executive producer. Spin.

It's called The Spin crowd. And Kim executive. So she believed in it. She was the executive producer and the creator. And at the time, this is the time when the Kardashians was crazy. This is when like Courtney pulled Mason out of her like, you know what like like the Lion King. Do you remember that scene? Of course I do.

Like our, I just remember the debut of Spin Crowd was like after that. Like, we were the, they were our lead in. So I remember reading that it, the premiere did like amazingly. Yeah. Like the ratings were insane. Spin Crowd did extremely well. Yeah. You know, the whole ratings game, though, is like how much of the audience do you retain?

So I think like, you know, in the end, like it didn't come back for a season two. I need to rewatch. It was absurd. I was wearing bow ties. And every episode. Because out of choice? I, like, don't know what happened. I was wearing bow ties in, like, these insane sweater vests that I look back.

Wait, in glasses, right? And this is pre-LASIC eye surgery. Yeah. And pre, yeah, pre-rhinoplasti, a lot of preys. There was a glow up since, you're saying. I mean, not that I've turned into, like, you know. But it's a while that you're like, that age, get hotter?

Yeah. I mean, you get more confident. Yeah. Okay. So the show, were you into it? Because you're saying that Jonathan, he was like front screen, baby. Did you feel like, wait, am I also?

Or were you still weird? I felt like the show was like an interesting experience and really fun. But I knew after filming like an episode that filming it with Jonathan was just not ever going to be the thing for me. I don't know, I just, so much of our work we couldn't talk about on the show. You know, we have big corporate clients who don't want to be, you don't want to, like, air their laundry on a TV show. So you had to, like, create some drama, like friend and employee. I felt like our employees suddenly, it became like a docu soap about our employees' lives.

Oh, okay. Like a Vanderpump rule. Kind of, yeah. Which I get, that's what you need. But then, like, people don't care about them. Yeah. Yeah. So I think after we did season one, it was just, it was time. Yeah. So how many years were you with Jonathan?

We were together for almost a decade. Wow. Yeah. Like not, yeah, probably nine years. Wow. Nine to ten years. And then did you decide to leave? So I did. We were working. I was, the company was flourishing. It changed. We were a PR agency. And then we changed into what we call a procurement agency. So we We connect brands with celebrities. We negotiate endorsement deals. The company changed from PR to where it is now.

And Jonathan was just not a part of it. He didn't really want to work in that way. He wanted to be on TV. He wanted to become a personality. The beginnings of Food God had started. So he was really leading into. Wait, do you call him Food God? Like, when you see him?

I call him John, which drives him. Oh, my God. What are you? Are you insane? But it's also like, I, I mean, I've known. Yeah, like, excuse me. I mean, he's still correct. me but he's serious about it he's very serious about it it was a legal change but i'm like i've

known you so long yeah that i can't go back yeah it's weird because you're very different not weird you're two different people but even from the little that i got to speak to him i really could sense what you were saying like how he wants to be known for you know who he is and i feel like that's part of the food god change is like i'm my own person yeah this is me where you do you ever feel like belting out in an Ashley Simpson song of like living in the like do you feel that or are you cool with being on the sidelines I'm cool being on the side lines I think I'm happy here yeah I think I'm also I don't know if you feel this way but I'm like very sensitive yeah like being a main character like I as I was like Uber in here

I was like reading a DM from over the weekend yeah and some Someone just said something like, mean, just not even mean. Like, on the Richter scale of mean, it was like a three. Yeah. But I'm like, I'll have to think about this a few times today. Like, I'm like, this will sit with me a little bit. And so when I see, like, when I see Kim or any of the girls, like they, it doesn't, they're like immune to it. Yeah.

Oh my God. They're my scale. Like if I get a DM like that, which let's say is a five. And I'm like, uh-huh. Yeah. And then I literally have to be like, just imagine. Yeah. what, you know, the Kardashians, for example, go through every, like, they'll just be like,

hi, I love you. And someone will be like, find a reason to hate on that. So I'm, I always try to remind myself that there are people out there fighting the fight. Fighting the fight. Every fucking minute and second. And this probably feels really big to me, but it's not. And as like any brand, it's kind of like part of like the Venn diagram of becoming more popular and building your brand. And, like, as you gain popularity and gain followers, there's just more hate.

There's just more trolls. It's the way it is. They come. Yeah. Yeah. But what the reason I wanted you to come on the podcast and people to get to know you more is because on the show and I told you this to your face, I was like, people don't see. Well, I feel like on this season of the Kardashians, you're getting a little more like Simon moment.

Yeah. Of, like, making a joke even though it didn't land. There was a joke that didn't land in Italy. I have to go back to that episode. Oh, God. Did you want? I haven't seen it. No, I haven't seen it yet.

You made a joke to Dominic, like, in the Domenico meeting. Maybe the Italians didn't get it. Because we also have our own vocabulary where we're calling people Debbie's, and they're like, who's Debbie? Right. Yeah. No, I was dying at that scene. But, yeah, for years, I feel like people could have thought like, oh, look at that cute friend who's like a little nerdy. Yeah.

But, like, you're not. Well, also on the show. you're fun like why like yeah the girl's show is like their show yeah and i am not i can't i'm not an actor so like some people when they film a show can like turn their volume up and they could be like so kim what did you think of i'm never and you'll never i can't the producer like no one could even ask me because i would mess it up i would stumble over my words i could only just be who you are for real yeah and i say that as like a that's a negative not a pot like i wish i could Turn it on a little more.

Yeah. I just, yeah, I wish they picked it up more, like more of your funny moments and because you are so likable. And I love you. Okay, so that answered the question of who did you meet first. So you met Kim and then you met the rest of the family. Yeah, I think I actually met Chloe first, to be honest, but I don't remember as the personal assistant. And then I met Kim.

And I think probably like a year, I think their show started in 2008, I think. I don't remember the exact year. But the rumblings of, I think I'm going to do a reality show started around that time. Yeah. And I remember we were at Koi. Do you remember Koi? Yes. So Koi on La Sienega was like the spot.

Like you would go and have that like spicy tuna crispy thing, which is now everywhere. Okay. And it's so good. But Koi invented it. Like Koi, if you're listening, you're welcome. Because they really did invent it. And I remember we were sitting at a dinner and they were telling us like, it was Courtney and Kim. and they were telling us all about the show with Ryan Seagruss.

Ryan Seacruss really wasn't Ryan Seacris, like we know him now. Right. In the back of my mind, I was like, oh, I don't know. Reality's kind of lowbrow. Because there wasn't reality back then. And it was like not, if you wanted to be like famous, famous, you couldn't be a reality star. And you also saw the Grebman girls show.

Right. Right. Power Pups. Yeah. Yeah. And like, so, yeah, you weren't. seeing huge success come from this. No. No. It was such a different time.

I think it's a different time. And also, like, they brought something different probably. Yeah. Well, the show has been successful for all the reasons, like, we know it's successful. No, that's so crazy that you were there from the beginning. And from knowing you, like, the dichotomy of you, of, like, who you are. I mean, you're in Prada today, so it's not really going with what I wanted to say. Do you want me? Like, is it a rags or riches story? So, no, because I feel like at the lemmy event, you were wearing like a Zara suit. Yeah.

You know? Was I? What was I wearing at the Levy event? I feel like there was something Zara. I don't know. Was there something? Do you not shop at Zara? No, I don't not shop at Zara, but I feel like at the lemmy event I was probably not wearing Zara.

Well, what I mean is. Okay, even if I was imagining that part. Or if you lied to me. Yeah. Maybe you lied. Maybe I was like, oh my God, my Zara, you know, but by the way, love Zara. What I mean is you live kind of like a double life of like hop on the PJ to Italy, do this. Not that your life isn't bougie, it is bougie.

But like, do you have the moments of like when Justin Bieber comes off the stage and like the dopamine starts to come down? like you're living it's sometimes like just this extravagant over the top abnormal life with the family

or with other people that you know like by nature of what I do like my career there is this like huge and I think some people choose to have their life all be that

and I have like my best friends are all of my like gay besties who aren't in the industry or don't even care or don't even know what it is and like we plan

and Montaq together and have like the best you know so for me like I need that yeah and yeah I don't even I'm trying to think like my perspective on that I don't know I don't do you do get like wowed still like hopping on a PJ or a peeve it highly changed the name and I kind of like it um you don't get I don't anymore I don't because like when you see how like the sauce is made kind of thing like I've been in it so long yeah so nothing it doesn't really like impress me like it did or wow me like I lived six year seven years wowed I was like impressed by the edamama aunt nobu like everything in like I was so yeah out of my comfort zone for so long but then I realized that like everyone is also feels that way yeah I get what you mean I get what you mean so you always you're so

busy your line is to just say you're running on fumes like you're barely making it and you're like I actually work a nine to five. I do. Okay. So tell me about it. So my day, I have a marketing company called Command Entertainment Group, where we help big brands work with celebrities and influencers. And I've had that forever.

And that's what supports my lifestyle. And then I have Judy, which is an emergency preparedness brand, which we started three months before the pandemic insane. Did that start as like an anxious person awaiting for the end of the world? So kind of, yeah. And I had friends who lost their homes in Southern California. to wildfires. And none of them had an emergency plan. And I have family in Florida who've been in these storm search. Just no one was prepared. So we thought there's an opportunity to build

emergency kits and emergency safety that like doesn't exist. So we did it. And then Phil started sniff, which I'm, you know, it's his, it's his baby, but I'm involved in kind of helping shape some of the strategy. And then I'm Courtney's partner. Courtney's launched Lemmy. It's her baby. She's the founder, but I'm her partner, which has been just the most incredible journey to do it with her. I've never had a business with one of the girls. And Courtney and I are so, it's like just to be a part of something with a best friend. Like I, you know, people always say don't mix business. Yeah. But it's been such a crazy, fun journey. And Courtney's in the best place. Yeah. So we've been working on it for five years. She's been working on it for five years. Wait, so she, who thought of it?

This is Courtney's baby that she's wanted to launch forever. Yeah. And there was, like 17 different ways she could have done it. And she was going to partner and she was going to do this. And she had all these different options. And she chose, you know what? I want to build the team myself. I want to find like the supply chain. I want to do all the formulations. Like she really wanted to own every piece of the business. And were you, did you offer your, were you like, hey, I could do this with you? It was kind of a natural conversation. Like it just, she said, oh, would you want to be one of my part like and I said yes like I would love to be a part of this journey with you as he's sitting here with his lemmy he loves it no the reason I have to tell you like of course I trust Courtney

and whatever she put into it but what made me really believe in it is you stop no yeah I was like like I believe you you know what I mean I feel like you're because you're a real person to normies you know and like he is actually obsessed with the stuff and I know that you wouldn't put out anything. Not that Courtney would, but I'm saying you as well, wouldn't put out anything that isn't. People are like, wait, is it actually? You know, how people are like, wait, is it actually? And you're like, no, it actually is. This is something that like, just from like an ingredient perspective, like we spent years and we tried, Courtney has probably tried 200 formulations of gummies. Like I would, we would be in like Portofino and she's like two hours away from

walking down the aisle. I'm like, try the deep load formula. And she's like, can you leave me alone for a second? I know, you really do shove them in people's faces. Oh. You're like, take a much or a 17? Or 17. You need to focus? You know what it is?

It's, I was never a person for vitamins and supplements. I thought like it was just such a boring, sleepy thing. And so specifically like, like de-bloat, for example, I've been bloated. I'm a blowfish. I've been bloated since high school. And I don't like capsules. So for us to create a product, for Courtney to create a product that is actually delicious, and super clean and also works for me is like this is a treat yeah no it is that was the genesis

of the whole business like taking a category and taking something that people don't want to really take and make it tasty yeah i love that so you're saying that working together you are working with a friend like people would go into it a little a little with some hesitation did you i didn't because we have worked together on deals and different things things for 15 years. Right. And I know the family so well. So I know and she is a perfectionist and there's a certain things that trigger her in terms of like fonts, logos, photo shoots, ingredients. Like there's just things that I know are going to set her off. And so it's I have 15 years of experience working with her. Yeah. She's also at a point because of her relationship and

because of how happy she is in her life right now, that she can lean in fully and do something like this. Like, Lemmy would not have been possible five years ago. Yeah. Like, she just wasn't in the headspace to open her heart up and really pour everything into it. No, she is. She's so into it. And she finally, like, she said when she was on my podcast, like for years,

she almost didn't want to do something because everyone wanted her to, kind of thing. She is driven by, like, authenticity. like timing she has that like spiritual side to her right which we kind of love yeah yeah like other people are doing things they're like oh this is financially this is the right time right this is like a brand moment yeah corny's like excuse me like that's not a reason to start a business like does that have cane sugar in it right this is organic cane sugar yeah you quizzing me on ingredients No, I'm being Courtney. Oh, yeah.

Totally. No, she's, which I think is why Lemmy has been so successful. Like, it, Courtney doesn't do anything unless it's a hondo for her. A hondo, yeah. I want to talk a little bit about Phil or Pip and how you met and fell in love because he is such a cutie. He is. And he's so, like, if any, he, whenever I see him, it's like, he's just heart. You could tell that he's heart and that he's totally not affected by this life or lifestyle.

That he's even a little bit maybe still like nervous. Yeah. In situation. Yeah, he is. Where I lean in at first I could get to somewhere and I'm like, uh, like, uh, uh, and then I get there. I'm like, you know, give me one drink and I can talk to like anybody. No, Pip is still. And Pip is still a little like.

Yeah. He's so cute. We had a moment at bye bye. Oh my God. baby to baby i'm so sorry am i saying it wrong now you're saying it right baby to baby we had a moment and this weekend we were at this event it was kind of this like star setted charity event and we were sitting one table over from cam donated a million she don't kim donated a million on top of all the other money she's already donated in the supplies no it's so wild you guys so kim donated a million

and i saw a message in my dm today being like so like that's great and everything but like if you do the math of what a million is for her. This is what this person said. If you do the math, a million to her is like 5,000 for someone's net worth of 10 million. I don't even know how this person did the...

No. Where can I yell into this camera? No, but I'm like, oh, this one. No. Oh my God. Camera one. No. The person he sent that, you are annoying. No, how annoying. I'm like, wow. like nothing is enough. It's a million. It is a million dollars. And how many of you out there would be donated? And by the way, that's one of 50 organizations she gives to. Wait, so you went to buy. Fucking, you're going to make me say by. We went to baby to baby. And we wanted to go congratulate Kim's. We were sitting a table over. And I got sidetracked by someone. But, but Bill was. You do this thing. You leave him. Bill was leading the charge. I said, Phil, you lead the charge. We had to wander through, waddle through all these people. And so.

You left him on the way. Someone pulled me in. And so he got to Kim's table. By himself. And it was Kim, Kylie, Chris, and like three other people. And he tapped Kim thinking that I was right behind. And I was not. So it was just Bill at the table.

And he's so cute. He's like, I just, he's like, I ran away. I'm like, you tapped her and you ran? He's like, I did. No, that's what I'm saying that like he's met them how many times? Yeah, totally love him. But, right, but he's still, like, shy. He's shy.

And you are, you know, of the room, you mingle, you go. Yeah, I know, I'm bearable. Yeah. No, so something similar happened with Phil when I was at the lemmy event. And this is what really, like, you know, I was just, like, come into my arms and lay with me. He's the cutest. That I got there. And again, this is me being like, I'm going by myself.

And then I get there. I'm like, give me a matcha tequila. What was the drink? You were literally on fire. was insane. It was my event. Let me match. You were on the JPEG.

So I got, oh, so I go to the bar and Phil is there. I'm so excited to see him. And Travis was there, Travis Barker. And he's like, do you want to let me match? I'm getting one for court and Avril. Like, take a moment. I was like, Avril, because it was Avril of Maine. Which for me, it was like, I needed to connect the dots in my mind for a moment.

Yeah. And then I was like, yeah. lemmy tequila what's it called lemma macha but it was a tequila yeah it was a lemma margarita so i'm like yeah i and so phil had like a martini or something in his hand and i had asked phil before Travis came over I was like do you like should I get the lemmy margarita he's like I don't know it's a little sweet like I'm just going to stick to my what martini right then Travis comes over and he's like hey like and he goes to me like you want the lemmy macha and margarita I was like, yes.

And then he goes to feel like, Phil D. And Phil is to fool you with his drink. And he's like, yeah, sure. I'll have one. No, the nicest. No, the nicest. And that's like those moments where I'm like, he doesn't want one. So, so kind, so sweet.

Yeah. Like, obsessed with you guys. He's like a really. He's, yeah, it was our one year anniversary this weekend. And he's just, it's like, I feel so lucky that I found someone. And I really mean this that like, I always thought in relationships. it's like, oh, you have your part. It's like we are best friends and partners on everything.

We are walking through this life together. How many years were you together before getting married? This will be our six years before getting married and then a year, you're married. Wait, so did you meet on an app? Yeah, he's going to be, he hates the story, but oh well, cancel, cancel. So we, I was like fresh off of a breakup and I was just like looking to start dating, but nothing serious. So I was on Tinder. I was like, Tinderella. I was out of control. And I kept swiping and swiping. And I would have a copy paste message, which is so. What was it? Beyond annoying. It was

something like, hi, I'm Simon. Nice to like, it was just annoying. Like I, because it's, was it sexy or was it formal? Oh, no. I'm like. It was an email. It was just like, hey, I'm Simon, if you want to like grab a drink, like people that I was. Because back, I mean, back then, even now, like the volume of people you have to go through. Some people don't respond. Even after you've matched. So Phil was in Long Island at the time, staying with his parents, and I was driving to Montauk, and we matched. And I then was that annoying person that kept canceling plans. And I kept canceling last minute on Phil for three months until we finally made a plan. And I was like, okay, we're going to go.

I think we're going to go to Catch for dinner. And then last minute, an hour before, I'm like, I'm not really feeling it. At the time, I was a big pot smoker. Stop. And I know, did you not see that for me? No. Oh my God. I was Pablo Escobar. I would love to. Yeah. Yeah. Not during the day. I was like, you know, working. Yeah. But at night, I was like, it would chill you out. It would calm my nerves down. Like, it wouldn't get you like giggly high. Just like, it would do that too. But it for sleep, I was using it. Like, it was my thing. And now you don't smoke anymore? Now I don't smoke anymore. Why? It causes general malaise. What is that? Like just general exhaustion, fatigue. I don't know why. I think I overcooked it. we're smoking a lot of pot.

So I smoked a lot of pot. Anyway, I was just exhausted. And so I wrote him being like, you can either we can cancel or you can come over and smoke with me or you can come over and watch me smoke. And he has, he's safe. He just sent me a screw grab of that psychotic message I said to him. And that was our first encounter. So he came over. He came over and watched me smoke.

I remember I was like in my pajamas. No, I can't. And it was just so like, what a mess. Like, what a mess. Did you, you weren't with Listerine strips then? I don't, honestly, I probably was. But I was a mess. So he, and then we had a nice night.

And then two days later, he went home. Two days later, I said, do you want to come to Montauk? I'm going with like a gaggle of my friends, like a gaggle of gays, basically. And he said, yes, he came to Montauk two days later. What a go with the flow fell. Which is so not him. He was scared it was going to be some sort of, like, orgy. Little does he know, we're so PG-13.

He, like, called his best friend Cassidy, and he was like... I'm going to an orgy. I'm going to an orgy in Montauk, hosted by Simon Huck, and I'm terrified for my life. Oh, my God, I can't. So that was what we... So that was like, I don't know, four days after, and then he basically, we've been together ever since. Stop.

It was that quick. Wow. It was that quick. I love that. And it was... So you never had, like, a first, like a normal first date? No. That's crazy.

Wait, so who proposed? I proposed. Didn't you write something like, you better say yes? So Phil married me, or no, Phil is with me for Montauk. Like we have like a tiny little beach house, but he is obsessed with it. Okay. Okay. No, I mean, we have a... It's tiny?

No, but it is. We have a small beach house in Montau. Wait, you've had it... Wait, the one that you're building now? Yes. So it's the same one that you've had all these years. And Phil is in love with Montauk. It's his favorite place in the world.

He did a sniff candle. He did a sniff candle. And so I knew I wanted to propose. in Montauk. So we went up in like the depth of winter. It was January, 20, 20, three months before the pandemic. And I had all these rocks, these like beach rocks, which were just so painstaking to approve. Spell out, you better say yes on the beach. And so I brought Phil down there. It was like 11 a.m. on a Saturday. And of course, like, free loving Phil is like, oh my God, what does it say on the beach? Someone left like a rock, like some rock art. And I'm like, well, what does it say, Phil? He's

like, you, and I'm like, Bill, what is it say? It went on for like 15 minutes. We were in front of the proposal for 15 minutes until I finally, I now know why people get on bended knee. Oh, so they know. So they know. So they know. So I'm like, okay, I'm just going to do it. So I still is not reading the stupid rock. And I'm like, at least it will be good for the ground. So I go and bend a knee. And I have been so emotional with Phil. I don't know why. And I started, I started crying. I cried our whole wedding. I was out of control. I for some, I for some reason. So you got on a neat way, did you give him a ring?

Yes, I did. Like, you proposed with the ring? Yeah. What kind of ring do you propose? It was a very simple, like, rose gold, Cartier thing. So does it look like a wedding band vibe? So skinny. Oh, it's skinny.

And he never wears it. That's not nice. I know. He doesn't wear it. I don't wear a ring. Yeah. I don't like rings. Yeah.

But I think some gay couples do, like, watches, like a fancy watch that feels. Proposed with a watch? Some do. Stop. I think it's kind of weird. Wait, so you started crying and then you said, will you marry me? Will you marry me? Actually, I said, you better say yes. And what did he say?

He said yes. He said yes. And then I had his entire family at a restaurant down the street, which like family for Phil's Italian. So family for him is like the most important thing. And so we then started planning. He immediately went within the pandemic hit. We had to postpone it.

We postponed it a few times. And we knew we wanted to have two weddings. We did one in L.A., and then we did one in Toronto. And you guys are the cutest, and we just talked a little bit before we started. You wanted to have a baby, but you're so crazy right now that you're going to wait. Yeah, no, Lemmy's my baby. Lemme's my baby. Okay, but you also would be really cute with a little baby of your own.

Thank you. And it'll happen. It will happen. When the time's right. We did the embryos. We did it all. Everything's ready to go. I think we have 11 eggs.

That's a good amount. Yeah. Or what is that embryos or eggs? I don't even know. I don't know either. Yeah. Okay. So before we're done, some quick fire questions.

Oh, please. Are you ready? These are so random. You would think I wrote these when I was high. Okay. I'm going to do the randomest one first. John Mayer or John Stamos? Mayor.

Okay. Yeah. You know that I was thinking. I was trying to like kind of understand your type, like aside from Phil. Yeah. So it's John Mayer. would be like a vibe for you over John Stamos yes I mean neither I would say neither are like dead on for me dead on like Hollywood actor signing Tatum Brad Pitt Liam Hemsworth maybe

Liam Hemsworth okay for lack of a better option okay private plane or first class oh first class yeah yeah see that that's how I I haven't been in a pee pee but I don't know they kind of scare me okay first of all you have to sing for supper the whole time what does that mean meaning like whoever's plain it is, you have to speak to. There's no delicious, you know, meal where you're in your little thing, watching your movie. Okay. Hi, how was your day? Yeah.

Like, no thank you. And then to use the restroom, God forbid. Oh my God. I didn't even think of that. And you guys listening, you know how I get on airplanes with the restroom. I'm just going to say that. I have stage fright. I can barely get the engines going.

So, oh, my God. What would I do on a private plane? It's a disaster. Oh, my God. I'd rather be in my cute. I'd rather be in United. Hello. Hi.

Hi, United if you see you. Simon is trying to get on my partnership. Hello. I'd rather just be on a plane. Yeah, I feel that. What about turbulence?

Is it more in a private jet? It can be really rocky. Yeah. It can be really rocky. I don't get scared. I don't get scared, but Phil is terrified of small planes. Yeah. Okay.

Well, I know the answer to this. Zara or Gucci. Gucci. Okay. Macha or coffee. Coffee. Which Kardashian would be your charades? if you had to pick one for charades.

Oh, I think Chloe. Yeah? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Okay. She's so, I feel like she would crush it. Yeah, she would get it.

Well, Simon. Is that it? That's it, babe. Are you sure? No, it's like overtime. Do we get everything we needed to hit? Did we? Yeah.

I mean, no. Okay. Okay. Okay. Everything was so easy. I know. What did you think? This was so fun.

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