Not Skinny But Not Fat - Fellow Bravholic Danny Pellegrino Joins NSBNF

Episode Date: August 20, 2019

Danny Pellegrino joins NSBNF and dishes on all our favorite Bravo shows from The Real Housewives Franchise to VPR and Amanda’s newfound obsession Southern Charm! Aside from creating hilarious Bravo memes, he is also a writer, comedian and podcaster! Danny also tells us about a new venture he worked on with two VPR castmates that was just announced! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Wait. And okay, so you saw on your Instagram that you're obsessed with Jessica Simpson and you have like a day for her. I need to know more about this. Right. Like so every Thursday you pose like a Jessica Simpson throwback. So every Thursday's hashtag Jessica Thursday. This is not skinny but not fat. And I'm your host, Amanda, here to bring you the latest in all pop culture news, celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps. Anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my. mouth shut about. This is not skinny, but not fat. Hey guys and welcome to another week of the not skinny but not fat podcast. I have today the host of the podcast, everything iconic, comedian and author Danny Pellegrino. Hello, I'm so excited. Thank you so much for having me on the show. And I do apologize if my audio is maybe like a little less than perfect. I'm trying my best,

but I have technology problems. But hopefully it sounds okay. And you sound, Chris, be clear to me right now. So Danny Pellegrino, would you call yourself a bravo-holic? Oh, 100%. Yeah, I'm obsessed with the channel. And it's become really inconvenient for the rest of my life because all I do is watch those people on that channel.

And it's really disgusting. So I saw that and I noticed that. And I'm kind of jealous of you because I feel like you're doing such a better job than I am. Like, I can't keep up with all the shit. And it looks like you. you're keeping up with all of it. No, well, it can be deceiving. I focus on a couple different shows.

Like, I, especially for my podcast, I, like, I try to do just two shows at a time. Occasionally I'll dip into some others, but, uh, and I usually watch a lot of them, but I'll, like, binge them all at once. But then there's usually, like, two or three that I'm, like, very current on. And usually it's the housewives. It's the house. So, so, okay, so tell us what you're, what you're watching, like what you watch. So right now I'm really into, well,

Southern Charm. I love the Real House was a Potomac, which I think is like severely underrated. It's like one of the greatest shows on Bravo right now. They're having like a breakout season. And I know a lot of people didn't, didn't get on board when it first started, but I promise like this season is blowing like every other franchise out of the water. So how many seasons are there if anyone wants to start binging from the beginning? They're on four, but I recommend you could start with three. You could start at season three and be fine, I think. Oh, really? Okay. So Potomac. underrated, which I don't watch and I probably should. Okay. And I'm

newly obsessed with Below Deck and Below Deck Med is on right now. I'm into that right at the moment. So you saw Below Deck and Below Deck Med? I just started Below Deck. So I watched like, I binge the last season of the regular Below Deck

and then now I'm on the Mediterranean edition. And I always said... The Med with Captain Lee as well? No, Captain Lee is the the original and then Captain Sandy's Blow Deck Med and I always said I wasn't going to do it

but then here I am I got addicted people told me it was good and they were right and people are always right like everyone's been telling me Southern Charm and I was like no no no and then I started yesterday and I'm like so do do do do do do

the Bappadoos are amazing this season of Southern Charm has been like a little bit snoozy compared to the others, but it's still great to be. I started from the beginning. So I'm in 2014 right now in Charleston. Like that's where I'm at. I am so excited for your journey.

I shouldn't be that excited, but I'm so excited for you. I'm excited too because it's like the way I started with Vanderpump. I was also a late bloomer and a late Vander. And then I had the audacity, Danny. I don't know if you know, to call myself a VPR ambassador. Well, I think that's perfectly fine. I think we need... I was like, I'm self-proclaimed, and no one can tell me anything.

I got so obsessed with Vanderpump Rules, and I know you... Love it. You love it, too. So I got so obsessed with Vanderpumpf Roles, and I started, like, putting little clips here and there in my stories, and it just became this whole, like, oh, I'll just take everyone on this journey of rewatching it with me. And there were people who started watching it with me, and there were people that rewatched it, and it's just like one of those...

And then after that, I was like, what do I do now? And they were, like, Southern Charm. And I, for a long time, felt like this loyalty to VPR. Like, I'm not going to move on. But I started Southern Charm, and I'm like, I'm digging. Well, the best part is, like, seeing it through, this sounds crazy. Like, we're talking about a TV show about waiters. But the best thing is, like, seeing it through a fresh person's eyes.

So it's, like, watching your stories and being able to see you watch it for the first time. It's, like, so exciting for someone who, like, respects the, this sounds, I sound like a fucking nutball. He's been like a professional at what you do, okay? I'm fucking crazy. Excuse my French, but seeing it through your eyes is so exciting. I'm sorry, just cut me off whenever you need to. No, but now I get, because my followers, they're so supportive. They're like, watch it and they get so excited.

They really do. And like I said, some start with you and some. And then when I didn't understand it, it was weird. But then when you get other people to start watching and you see them on first seasons of something, you're like, you just wait, and you get so into it. So I totally get it. And I had quite a freaking journey with Vanderpump. So I am so excited for season eight.

The Bravo fans are just, we watch those shows like sports. And I think like The Bachelor Nation is similar. I'm not super into the Bachelor franchise, not because it's not wonderful. It's just I'm so busy with the Bravo. But it's like sports for all of us. And I love that community of just watching these ridiculous shows and being so obsessed with them.

I know. It's such a different kind of network, but I do watch the Bachelor, Bachelorette. Do you not watch it all? I've dipped in and out and I've always loved it and I've always thought it was a great TV, but I just haven't been able to like fully immerse myself in the world just because I do watch all of these housewives and then and the below decks and the Southern Charms and all of it. Wait, so how are you now that the last episode of New York like happened? Well, I'm in mourning. I've been wearing all black all week. I have a bail on right now. And is New York your favorite? New York is my absolute favorite show. Yay. You know why that makes me happy?

Because usually I feel like people like the franchise from where they live. And you live in L.A., so I think you would like. Yeah. No, the L.A. franchises or the California franchises have been really bad lately, I think. But New York just is the funniest to me. Like those women, I will watch them do anything. Like, I love just seeing them pick rooms for a vacation. I can watch that for episodes on end.

And those women just, they make me laugh and make me feel like a sense of joy that nothing else ever will or ever has. So who's your favorite on Rerone? God, I think Ramona's my favorite to watch, but I recognize. Oh my God, I can't. I get so annoyed by her.

I recognize she's the worst. How would she like allowed to be anyone's friend? Like you're a horrible, a horrible friend. A true monster. You're horrible. Like she's a monster. Like the way, okay, can we talk about the reunion for a second? Please.

So, like, I was feeling, and throughout the whole season, I was feeling a little bit bad for Luan, which I think I'm a minority. No, I'm not, I didn't feel bad for, I turned on Luan this season. You turned on her. I just feel like, okay, like, obviously she's all those things. She's so self-absorbed. She's a narcissist. She's not a good friend.

Like, she doesn't know what's happening in her friend's lives and, like, everyone's a good friend to her. And she's like, you don't. And you're not a good friend. but at the same time she's been through some shit she obviously has mad you know stuff bad bad shit happening in her life and she's crazy and having all of them attack her like three episodes of a reunion just seems like handling that emotionally like six women coming at you and telling you you're a horrible person she somehow like kept her poise like I would cry walk

away run off the stage like I couldn't handle it. Lou's very resilient she always has been she just like takes it off for you what is that phrase like I don't know that's a good word she's very resilient and she doesn't people throw shit at her remember when Bethany was just like yelling at her and calling her a whore

in the Berkshers a few seasons ago and it's like she just takes that. Yeah and then this season too when she freaked out at her at the restaurant I know but I've turned on Lou and Lou I don't know she frustrates me and that said like I would literally take a bullet for any of these women like she I would cover up a murder for them if I had to because they're wonderful.

But I have turned on Lou in the context of like the group of these women. But I felt like even at the reunion, and she was like, oh, I'm going to be in Chicago. And it was like, she just doesn't get it. Like she just doesn't get it. She's detached. Not the time, Lou, not the time. It's not the time. But at the same time, I do, I'm trying to see her point of view a little bit.

And I feel like when she says, you know, none of you are happy for me. all like, we are happy for you. Like, let's admit that you guys aren't. Like, not because you're jealous. We know no one wants to be Luanne, but no one's actually really support. Like, she's trying. What she really wants is friends who actually love her,

support her, show up for her, like, say behind her back, wow, she's so amazing. And she doesn't have that. And I feel like she wants that. And the fact that the women are like, we support you. We came to your shit, like, twice.

I just, I could feel her a little bit in that sense. Barbara went to her show like seven or eight times. said, which that's the saint. We need to induct her into the, or give her the world peace prize or what's that medal of honor? She's been to that stuff. And she shat on her on the show. No, I couldn't. There were some Luann moments that I was just like, this is unreal. Like when she told Sonia, she couldn't wear like, I don't know, a blouse today meeting. And then Luanne comes out in this like sheer dress. She just has moments where you're like, no, no, no, you're unreal. I really turned on her early in the season when, I mean, it always seems like this whole

arrest thing, she hasn't taken as seriously as I would like her to. It's like she has assaulted a police officer. And it just something about it, revs me in the wrong way. I don't know if it's the privilege or what it is, but I get like angry with her. I'm like, Luann, you assaulted someone. And it feels like, I don't know this for sure, but it feels like you're not taking it all seriously. Now that said. And they all said that too. And that said that said, I guess, and I love her and I, her song is the song of the summer, Giovanni, whatever the fuck that. Did you ever see her? Did you go to any of her shows? Oh, my, I went twice. The second time I went, I felt really gross, but I don't know if that could have been the double vodka sodas I was drinking.

But I also met her at the first show. Like, she did like this little, like, middle, meet and greet backstage or something. And she, speaking of the last name Pellegrino, she was telling me about how her, the count, had like a connection to some Pellegrino family like when they came over on the Suez Canal or something it was like very odd and I was so wasted because that's what you do at those shows and she's like oh it's your family and I was thinking in my head like no it's not but I was like oh yeah

that was my family at the Suez Canal like I didn't even know what the fuck she was talking about but I was just going with it that's so funny did you have any of the housewives on your show I've had a lot of them on my show yeah I've had Luann has not been on the show, but I've had, like, Melissa Gorga, Cynthia Bailey. I've had, from New York, Durinda and Sonia. I've had someone from each franchise.

Yeah, they're a riot. They're actually my favorite this season, I feel like. The New York women. Durinda and Sonia. Yeah. Yeah. And they've really gotten into a groove and they're very funny together. They are very funny together.

They are very funny together. Anyway, we'll be right back with more, you guys. We're going to take a quick break. break. I wanted to tell you guys about Lola. Lola is a female founded subscription-based program where you receive your customized box. You choose the products, the quantity and the frequency, whether it's pads, tampons, whatever you need, whatever the quantity is. You choose. I just love that Lola is a female-founded company by women for women. Major brands, use a mix of synthetic ingredients in their products. Lola's products are 100% organic cotton with no added chemicals, fragrances, synthetics, or dyes. I literally haven't used tampons in years because I was so afraid that I would be putting

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Yeah. What was your? I used to perform and do stand-up and sketch comedy around town. And then I sort of fell into this really dark depression thing. And it was a whole slew of things. It was like professional setbacks and some personal stuff that was going on. And I didn't think I ever really wanted to perform again because it was just, I don't know, at that time, I just was like, okay, I'm not performing anymore. And then...

Are you from California originally? Ohio, and then I lived in Chicago for a couple years before, California. So I'm Midwest. Chicago is like a place for beginning comedians. Yeah, I had done like, when I was in Chicago, I did like Second City stuff there and some improv, and I did like a cheesy dinner theater called Tony and Tina's wedding. And I loved it. And, uh, and it was great. And then when I sort of fell into that, that, I don't know, that sounds so dark, but like that little, that depression, I didn't think I'd perform again. And then I slowly started doing like a lot of memes and stuff on Instagram and getting like a little following and I would post mostly Housewives memes.

And meanwhile, I was like writing a lot. And then I just thought I had like a little housewifey community or whatever. I thought it would be fun to do a podcast. And so like a year and a half ago, I started my show Everything Iconic. And I just, I mostly cover Bravo and Housewives. And I do like recaps of of the housewives shows and then I know I love that I listened to one of your shows and it was just you doing the whole recap and I was like I fucking love

this. Oh my God, thank you so much. Yeah, occasionally I have guests like come on and recap with me but or I just do them solo and then occasionally I'll have celebrity guests so I've had like some other I've done some other like random episodes that are about different pop culture stuff so I've had people like Jennifer Love Hewitt and like

nostalgic kind of celebrities like that come on the show and wait and okay so on your on your instagram that you're obsessed with jessica simpson and you have like a a day for her i need to know more about this right like so every thursday you post like a jesska simpson throw back so every thursday's hashtag jesska thursday and it started as like just sort of i would randomly find jesska simpson clips and i find her both wonderful amazing ridiculous like all of the adjectives in the world i find jesska sims and that whole time that whole era of like the newlyweds era is so fascinating to me like it was just such a weird time in reality TV and I feel like we've all we all went through like a Jessica obsession I think

like at a certain point and so all these clips I kept finding I would always post and people always seem to really respond to the Jessica Simpson post so then I just kind of turned it into a Jessica Thursdays where I just find like a little piece of history no but first of all she deserves she deserves the love and I really wonder like where'd she go and why isn't she blessing us with her voice and with her like just who she is because she's so funny and yeah i think she was so like weirdly relatable during the whole newlyweds era that i feel like everyone of a certain age kind of like attach themselves to her and then i i don't know i just i find her actually very interesting

i sound crazy this whole i find her so don't be ashamed this is who you are I find her as like a pop culture study, I find her so interesting because it seems like so many people connect with her of like different, so many different kinds of people connect with her in a way. And more so than like any other pop star or like public figure celebrity, it seems like, you know, moms in the Midwest and then young straight guys. And it's like the weirdest crossover of people that just have at one point or another been obsessed with Jessica Simpson. that's such an interesting observation and like random too but I want to know like why do you think she disappeared from like the public you think she's just like living life and she's like happily married and like with her beautiful kids I think that's a few reasons first of all she's like rich as hell because her clothing company still does really well and it still brings in so so much money

inexplicably and I think in terms musically she had come out with a country album that was not embraced by the country community or the community at large. And around that time, first of all, it was ahead of its time because now all the girls, all the women in music, they come out with their country albums. You know, Miley Cyrus just did it recently. Lady Gaga did it. Right. Everyone dips their toe into the country market. And she did it before anyone did or before a lot of a lot of them did. And anyway, so when she was doing that project, she was going on interviews and saying she would never do pop music again. She said her heart was in country music. And then no one embrace that.

So since then, she's only come out with holiday music, which is crazy. Her holiday music is insane. Hearing. I mean, hearing her do a duet of Little Drummer Boy with her sister Ashley is something that the ears

maybe should never experience. Wait, can I tell you what my favorite song and performance of Jessica Simpson is and that I used to sing? Do you remember her duet with Jewel? 100%. To that song. What's that song called?

Who will save your soul, I think? Is that the one they did? Yes. Oh my God. No, Danny. I used to belt that shit. Yeah. Oh my God.

No, I'm going to do it after the podcast. Please do it. It's the most insane duet. It's so funny. Right? Her facial expressions, like she's trying to be kind of like an acoustic folks. Like, it's so incredibly funny. Like, there's nothing better.

When they don't add a matter. I don't know. With that baby voice. Yeah. No, oh my God. So good. And the Ricky Martin duet is, you know, the best song ever. Oh, yeah.

I mean, yeah. Well, the Ricky Martin duet, I think you're mistaken. That's Christina Aguilera, I believe. Is that the one you're talking about? I hate myself. No, I hate myself. I'm supposed to be a pop culture kind of sword. Let me just tell you, Christina's serving a Jessica-esque look in that video, so I know what you meant.

True, true, true. And they both kind of, I mean, Christina was more like in the public eye lately, but they both kind of are on the low radar. But Jessica had some, like, drama today. She dyed her girl's hair and people are her, she's getting some backlash. The mommy police, they said. I read an article that was the mommy police came after her. I know. Her kids are so pretty, though.

They're so pretty. I feel bad for any of the mom, like celebrity moms, because no matter what they post it's like everyone chimes in with their opinions and it's like as a parent or mother or father I think like you know best and every parent's trying to do their best so leave them leave them alone yeah no back to christina and i just want to say christina had a very heavy red lip in that video and that's all i can think about at the moment she did a very heavy red lip nobody wants to be lonely she had a red lip nobody i'm going to rewatch it as soon as we're done here but yes Oh, it's such a good video.

I wonder if I knew that Ricky Martin was gay then. We all hoped. I mean, I had hoped, but it wasn't heavy red, Danny. It was heavy bronze. Oh, interesting. Yeah. It was heavy. Okay, interesting.

But it was heavy. It was heavy. Yes, it's a very heavy makeup. That's all I can think about. It was all I can remember was aggressive. Wait, Danny. And then there's something huge that happened today, you guys, which I saw right before we started the podcast, is that you.

collabed on a book with Ariana and Tom Sandoval? They just literally just announced it before I started recording. I know. That's what I'm telling me. I've known about it, obviously, but I wasn't able to say anything else. Tell us about it. It's just a book called Fancy as fuck cocktail. I'm sorry, it's fancy A.F. Cocktails. And it's, um, if you watch Vanderpump Rules, you know that they've talked about this cocktail

book on the show for years. And it's fine coming out. And it's honestly, like, I can't wait for people to see it. I think it's going to be. blow people away with what it is. I was the co-author of it, so I helped them kind of bring all their recipes to life and put some fun little tidbits from the show, and hopefully it's been laughs. How did that happen? Tell us about that. I was a ghostwriter before actually starting the podcast, and so I had Ariana on my show, actually, and I had asked her on my podcast. I was like,

what's going on with this cocktail book? And they didn't, it just sort of stalled. They didn't have, it just sort of stalled and so I was like you guys have to do this like this has to we got to make this work so then we went and they had a great concept

and we sort of came up with something so the book has drink recipes for every wait so when she was on your podcast you attached yourself to the project that's right exactly right she was like we're doing this

you're like we're going to do this it has to come out like I'll make it happen and then I made it happen I mean I shouldn't say I'm taking too much credit. Yeah, and it turned out really, really great. It's funny and silly and ridiculous and wonderful. And there's like sexy photos in it that people are going to just like love.

And also they're very smart and funny and they're in on it. And they're in on it. It's like very fun. And I think people are going to be really surprised by how great it is. And the drinks are amazing. I mean, I can't wait for people to see it. First of all, it's long awaited, because I'm pretty sure she was talking about it since, like, the second season or something? I think it was season. It was actually like season five when she came up with it, but it feels like forever in Vanderpumbril's years because everything on that show moves so quickly.

Right. And right. And they're like 27,000 episodes of season. And yeah, and you get lost in that world. No, I'm just saying it's tequila Katie is one of the drinks. Yeah, so there's certain drinks that are like kind of connected to certain cast members. But then there's a lot. that are just random drinks that I promise you, like, some of the drinks they would make for me that I would get to try. It was like, they taste so good. And then they're, they're crazy and creative. And there's drinks, like, that are classier for like a, you know, if you're throwing like a high end party or a high end, I don't know, it's a classier drink. And then there's stuff that's like super trashy, but like still tastes great. So it's like kind of a mix. Yeah, I saw it's like classy and trashy. So how did they, because I remember.

on the show Ariana wanted it to be like a solo project for her and then Tom was like trying to get in on it and she was like get out of my shit and then she was like let's do it together so how did it feel like being on the inside and working with them? It was so weird because it was like being in one of the episodes in that way but they really like I was so blown away by their I don't know how well they get along and how well they sort of complement each other which I don't know that it always translates on the show but they really do kind of compliment each other in weird ways that I didn't expect and they both

Ariana's like so whip smart like she's very very intelligent and like and funny and clever and Tom is so insanely creative in like the weirdest ways and right and especially about like cocktails the way his name works is just so fascinating

to me it's like it's crazy wait so how was it for you though like being such a fan of the show and like all of a sudden being a situation that you're working with them It was really fun, and I hope my goal with it was to, like, come at it from that angle of, like, what would a fan of the show want to see from this? And so I really, I really tried hard to, like, get in as much as I could of, like, stuff that I wanted to see as just a fan of the show. And so that's why I think people, I hope people really love it.

And I hope fans of the show really like it because that was, like, almost my entire goal going in. It was like, let's get out as much little, you know, tidbits. bits about the show or behind the scenes information that I would find interesting, not just like bullshit stuff. That was a good idea. So that was your idea. I wonder if they would have thought about that without you because I'm seeing like one of the things.

And it does kind of add a nice little, they put like one of the text messages from Katie in the Ticula Katie like one of her rants. Like, and remember this is actually the lion. Yeah. I'm tired of fighting and defending my gun, defending myself against. y'all with my fiancé, Jesus Christ. I remember those. I thought like we needed to have that,

we needed to see it, Ticilacady Tech. I agree. That's a really nice, that's really good for, you know, just like from a marketing perspective and for fans of the show we're getting it, they would get it even if they didn't, you know, want to make cocktails just to like see those little tidbits. I hope people will see it and laugh and just,

and make some of the cocktails. And I promise they're really great. and they were surprisingly wonderful to work with. So I hope that fan, that was my goal, just fans, I want them to like the book. And I think they will. And I think seeing it all together too, I mean, they just announced like the cover

and they showed just one of the recipes, but I think seeing the whole collection, I think people will really be surprised by it, I'd say. Yeah, no, it's first of all very proud of them for doing it, you know, for having, wanting to do something, and setting the goal and it finally coming out and I don't feel yeah it wasn't like shared it wasn't like we're still working on it like stay tuned like it wasn't talked about at least on social media for a little bit so we were blown away today when it came out it's it's really like the publishers hot

mifflin which is like an amazing huge publisher and I'm telling you like the quality of the book is I keep saying it's going to blow people away but I just think people are going to be surprised at the quality of this entire project because they really you know they could have just come out with some like little self-published pamphlet or something just to like shut up people who were like you're never going to

no I feel like with Sandy Sandy wouldn't let that happen yeah he would let something little and pamphletty come out come out I don't feel like that would have been the instant because it was like everyone was giving them so much shit about it never coming out and so I think it's great

Yay. Well, everyone, go check it out. When is it? It's like pre-order. If you go to fancyafcoctails.com or it's on Amazon and all those retailers and stuff, but it comes out December 3rd. It's like a great, great holiday gift. Cool. Well, congrats. We're going to take a quick break and be right back. So you were a writer before you were saying. Right. I was like a ghost writer, co-writer. So before I started the podcast and stuff, I had co-written a book with a guy from the biggest loser. His name is Bob Harper. The book was the super carb diet.

So that was his whole thing. But I helped him kind of bring it to life. And then, yeah. And I write some scripted stuff too. So I'm in the process of a scripted feature film that I wrote. Hopefully we'll get made. and maybe. Oh, wow. So you're juggling a lot, Mr. Pellegrino. I love to write. So hopefully, I love to write. I know. I love to write too. And it's fun when it comes, you know, together with writing about something that you actually want to write about. Yeah. And it's so, such a long process, like any sort of published or or any sort of writing gig. It's like you finish writing it and then it just takes everything is just so slow, which can be very frustrating and discouraging. But then something like this comes out and it happens. and you get to reap in all the benefits.

Yeah, and hopefully, and hopefully people enjoy it. Yeah. People will enjoy it. And tell, so if we're already talking about Vanderpump rules, Stasi and Bo got engaged. I know. I saw that. And also, did you? Were you excited?

Did you cry? No, I didn't know. But I. People would like, fan me like, oh, my God, are you crying? Like, I'm crying. I do, I did love the ring. And I did. It did look really.

Freddie, I agree. I agree. And I do sort of, people, I know get very divisive about this, but I would like to see like a newlyweds reboot with these two on Bravo. I saw that way. Did you put that up? Did you make that? Or did someone else make that? You made it? Yeah. And I think it needs to happen. Oh my God. I mean, I heard somewhere, I don't remember who I was talking to, but I remember someone told me that when Stasi had moved to New York, remember that season, she came to New York and she wasn't like on the show. So someone told me, someone from the inside, I think,

that she was kind of hoping to get like a spin-off. I didn't know that. And like, so I feel like she would be so down with that. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like, I don't feel, I feel like it's something that just needs to, like, be offered. And for us fans to say that we want it and it will happen. They're very entertaining.

She's very entertaining. She's, you know, witty and funny and smart. I think we need to just branch off with the show. Like the traditional Vanderpump Rules, it's getting a little bit tired, I think. And so I would just hope that it evolves into whether it's spinoffs and then bringing new people into the main show or something like that. That's what I would hope for. I mean, I'm such a lover of Vanderpump Rules, but you're right that everyone's gotten married, bought homes. Like, you know, what is going to go down?

Are we going to do a whole season about? how James sucks, like what's going to happen? Yeah, I don't know. And I don't want it to feel contrived either. Like, I don't want the show to feel like I hate when I see them working at the places and I'm thinking, like, are they really working there? Like, I'm not saying they're not, but. We kind of know they're not.

Yeah, and that takes away so much of the fun of the show. So I hope that it just evolves into whatever. I don't even know what it'll look like. But I hope that it just doesn't, I don't want them to screw up like my favorite show. You know what I mean? Yeah. And they tried to do the spin-off with Jackson, Brittany, which is so funny that that's what the trial spin-off was. Hard pass on that one. I couldn't watch that.

Yeah. No, I didn't watch that either. But I would definitely watch a Stasi and Bo. And yes, I agree that the ring was really beautiful. And he proposed in a freaking graveyard. I know. That's cute. I mean, that's like her. It's cute. Because she loves that show. Yeah. I think I saw online that they had the engagement party, at least the Vanderpoms, too. And everyone was sending me that Kristen wasn't there. I know. People were sending me that too. I know people wanted to answer.

I was like, I don't know where Kristen is. I know. I don't know. But I mean, more than that, I noticed that she didn't put up anything about the engagement. So there's definitely, you know, some shit brewing on season eight with Kristen. I kind of feel bad. What's your feeling on Kristen? Well, by the way, I just want to say that I love everyone that we all get like

fucking super sleuths. Everyone's like they, Chris, this person didn't comment. It's like so amazing. Like, I love everyone. And what was the question? What do I think of Kristen? Yeah. I don't, I mean, I've always been a Kristen apologist.

She's one of the few that I've never like met in real life. But I still just like, I have this weird loyalty to her and I don't understand why. And I think she's just given us so many great moments over the course of the show that I always get worried that she's going to get pushed out because I find her to be maybe like one of the most entertaining like I know I she's divisive but I love I love her and I I don't want her to get pushed out because I feel like we need that fire starter on the show we need someone to like drunk and like fall all over like sometimes we're supposed to hate people on these shows so that they can move forward like if we get rid of all the people that you know are the the crazy ones then we have no shows you're so right and you know I I always say this

because I get asked a lot, like, who's your favorite, Vanderpump rules, cast member, and who's your least favorite? And I don't think I even can answer that because I always say, like, when I watch this show, like, it's like I'm living this life, right? So I'm like, in this place, I'm, like, watching these characters do crazy as shit. And I'm not judging them as, like, real people. Like, I know they're real people on one hand, but on the other hand, I'm not like, James is so awful, like, I hate him, you know?

Like, I don't hate James. You know, I don't hate Kristen. I don't think, you know, the people that are kind of more on the villain side on the show even. Like, I actually like all the characters. Like, do you feel that way? Like, I just feel like everyone brings something different. And of course, I can say like, oh, this person did that and that was sucky. But it's like, I don't, there's not one cast member that I dislike on the show.

Yeah, I agree. I think everyone brings someone. I don't know. Actually, I don't know if I agree that I don't like or that there's, I don't know I do think though that I switch all the time like I'll hate them for one episode

and then I'll love them the next episode and someone like James who I feel like is someone we would tradition or I would traditionally like in real life find horrible for some reason watching on the show I'm like oh I love them so it's a weird

you mentioned like you watch it like their characters and it is almost like their cartoon like you just I don't know you make allowances for people that I wouldn't ever make allowances is in real life for. True. And then it is fun to hate on,

it is fun to hate sometimes, some of them. Like, that's great too. But I think they're, the best reality characters are the ones where we kind of like go back and forth with, I think. Otherwise, if we have no feeling towards them, then they're boring. And then in which case they need to go. But at least if sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them,

then I think they're giving us something. So if I was going to ask you the annoying question of, Who's your favorite on VPR? Would you be able to answer? Let me think. You know, even before working with Arianna and Tom, like, I always love, I called him my Tommy. I find him like so. I find him so like.

I call him Sandy. Yeah, he's my Tommy. Like, I don't know if you ever watched the Rosie O'Donnell talk show, but she always said, she always called Tom Cruise her Tommy. But he doesn't know that. I call him that, by the way. Oh, he doesn't? No. You didn't break the ice to the.

point. You could tell him that? I'm shocked. Only behind the back on my podcast, I call him that. But it's all in love because I find him so like, I don't know. So he reminds me a lot of my brother in a way, too. It just, he seems very simple-minded in the best way. And he's like sensitive and I don't know. I don't know what it is. But him and then- Every time I had to play Fuck Mary Kill with Jacks, Sandoval and Schwartz, I married Sandoval. yeah he's like i don't know he's i took it seriously i was like who do i marry like who's gonna you know i took those questions really seriously you know um and he just seemed like

who did you say about the other two what did you say oh my god so it feels weird to say fuck jacks but this is what i came to at the end oh because i assumed i assumed that jacks was like probably good in bed you know right right I think so. Even though at the beginning, I remember I thought Schwartz was really hot. And then he pissed me off a lot during the show. And I love Katie a lot. But he did a lot of shit that I was like, I'm not sure that I would want to have sex with you. Yeah. What about you? What would you fuck Mary Kill? Gosh, I've literally been thinking about it since you mentioned it. I've been ignoring everything you've said since because I'm just thinking about that. I think.

I don't know. I think I think I would marry Schwartz, F, Tom, I don't know. If you're Tommy, well, only because I feel like Schwartz, we've heard that he's not great at bed, but maybe he would be good if it was something different. I don't know. Wait, you're marrying him, though. I know that's, but I'm saying maybe I would switch. I can't decide.

That's why I'm going back and, but I definitely know I would. Yeah, I definitely know. I'm clear on that. You're killing Jacks. Okay. so then it's between Mary and that's a thing though because if you think about it like Tom has been faithful to Ariana as far as we know right Miami girl never panned out like that never was a real thing right I never got proven you know who I found really attractive but he was like such a a snore on the such a not that's not the right word such a snooze fest on the show is that Adam oh my God I I found him so incredibly attractive. Like, I don't know what it was.

Yeah, I, um, when I was on, I did Sheena's show and she asked me, fuck Mary Kill and she put Adam, she put Rob, and she put, uh, uh, Shea. And I remember I was like, okay, Mary Shea. And then I was like, hmm, and I debated and she like opened her eyes at me as if, like, you need to know that you're kidding. killing Rob. And I was like, okay, kill, kill Rob. Very subtle, that one. And I was like, of course, fuck Adam. Like, what was I thinking, you know?

Yeah, he was so attractive. I don't know if he's even going to be on the show anymore, but I don't know. He had something. He sort of reminded me of some guy back in the day. And I don't know. I just was like, oh, my God, I love Adam. He seemed kind of, did you think when he had that blowout, um, uh, with Sheena at the end where he was like kind of jealous. of her hooking up with that model dude and he was like, get off of me? Like, do you think that was kind of, did you buy it? That he was like, actually upset? I did not buy it. And I also...

That seemed kind of contrived, right? Like, that moment was like... It seems so bizarre. Especially because we didn't see any emotion from him like the whole season and all of a sudden he blew up. However, it was all worth it for Sheena crying into Mima's arms. She was like sniffing poppers or I don't know. She had an essential oil in her hand when she was.

She was like curled up in the fetal position into Mima's breast. And it was just like, oh, my God. I can see her on Mima's breasts now and find the pop words. No, Sheena was another one. Like, I remember when I started watching and I would get DMs like, Sheena's the worst and a lot of hate towards her from season one. And I remember being like, you guys that don't know what you want. She seems like a good person.

She seems like a good friend. Like, you guys are crazy. And then the Rob season came. And I was like, okay, I get it. like she's she's being self-centered like she's you know all these things but again like i'll never have those feelings of the people like hate certain certain characters and and on the show and like you know how everyone was coming for katie on season eight on season seven about james i was like everyone relax you know like calling her a bully i was like what is wrong with you like i know

the cast is like so divisive I've noticed because I've had a lot of them on my show and then well it's like every time I have them on I get the amount of messages I get no matter who it is like yeah I had James on recently well first of all I had I had Katie on like at the end of last season and the amount of messages I got was insanity and people were so angry and like just saying mean things like how dare I have her on because like you said they were saying she's a bully and all this stuff and I was like I don't think, like, if somebody called me fat on TV, like, I'd be done, they'd be dead. Like, come on, like somebody, you know, whatever. So anyway, then I had James on, because everyone was yelling at me because I had Katie on.

And then it was like the same situation. Then everyone's yelling at me. How dare you have them on? So I just feel like with all of these people, people get angry and they take these sides. And it's people sometimes get a little too intense. But I also love that intensity when it comes to certain aspects of the show. Yeah. Yeah, but I, yeah, I told Katie this and I also told like my followers and some were kind of like upset with me and they're like, I can't believe you're like a Katie girl.

People are going to DM us after this and say, how dare you? But I was like, listen, I'm a woman, okay, that also struggles with weight and you can call me ugly, you can call me stupid. If you call me fat, like, you know what I mean? like that's a sensitive word it's like and she said to him like your pants are low like okay people not the same i know i feel the same way i was and no one cared when christin was fired and no one cared when a bunch of people were fired and james has a rough family life and it sucks like i feel for him too when he cries to lisa like a little baby stomping his feet like lisa please no like i die like it breaks me heart but at the same time like what did katie do like she didn't do anything that

that other people didn't do and from that to be like a bully? I was like, how? And, and I think too, she's definitely said things to Schwartz that are crossing a line. I do agree with that. But also, it's like he's her husband. And if he's okay with it, then why are we the ones that are? Yes. And he was a piece of shit to her and cheated on her. God knows how many times. Right. I know. And that's probably why all that pent up, you know, shit comes out on him. But on general, on this show, though, I feel like the audience tends to side more with the men and I think the men get so many more

allowances and I don't know what that is exactly if it's just I don't know what it is but I sort of think like well should we support these women because they're the ones being cheated on they're the ones who are in some of these I don't know

but didn't you think it was weird speaking of like cheating and women and blah blah blah that you know when when Lala and Ariana hooked up and hooked up is like like not giving it enough credit when Lala went down on Ariana

in the back seat of Tom's car and Tom was driving. Did that not feel weird to you? Like, did that not feel like cheating to you in this like weird fucked up way? I don't know. Maybe I've just been watching this show for too long, but nothing fazes me. You're like, yeah, I'm just like, oh, that happened.

Like I totally, until you just said it now, I totally forgot to even happen. I remember. I was blown away because I was like, fine, like, do your thing. But, like, your boyfriend's right there. He's not that into it. He said that he wasn't that into it. Like, even though it's with a woman, it's like still kind of cheating.

But I feel like maybe it doesn't count on Vanderpom. Nothing counts on there. It's like they do the craziest thing. I mean, but he was okay with it. He was there. So it wasn't like a surprise. I know. That's so weird, though.

She just went down on her in the back of the car. I really love the way that they handled that actually, like from a like from a, from a sexuality standpoint, it was like they didn't, it felt like that it wasn't judge, whereas I feel like on other TV shows and stuff, it would have been judged. And Ariana just flat out said, like, yeah, I have a bisexual. I forgot exactly how she worded it, so forgive me, but she said something about has a bisexual past or is bisexual or something like that. And it was just, it felt like handled.

Yeah, the thing is like regarding that, like I think when Billy Lee came on and she was calling them like transphobic or something, I was like, these. group of people are the least homophobic, transphobic people ever, like, aside from, you know, the Pride Day, which is so funny, when you binge watch the show, it just feels like you're watching episodes, and then it's Friday. And then you're watching episodes on Friday. It's like, Friday, Friday. I would be like, how am I here already again? But I remember thinking, like, there's such a, like, accepting group of people, like, I'm sure maybe Jack's behind the scenes isn't, I don't know what to think about him sometimes. But I'm just saying everyone seems

kind of like bisexual. Everyone is like looks up with everyone. These people are definitely accepting of other people's like sexuality. So. Yeah, I think I think speaking of the Pride episodes,

I had recently rewatched the one after the Orlando shooting. And that's like what always comes to mind because I don't think they're perfect by any means. But I think that episode in particular when just like living in West Hollywood and knowing that that morning of that pride It was like there was these reports that there was a shooter on the loose in West Hollywood

or there was all this turmoil. And then the night before there was this large mass shooting in Orlando, an LGBT hate crime. And then to see these people trying to figure out if they should go to work in West Hollywood after all this has happened. And then seeing Tom was like crying like that episode. And he was so touched. And he's like, we have to go work. And we have to go entertain them, I think he said. And it was like, that touched me.

a lot. I think we're all sitting at home and crying. And I remember being like, you guys are so sensitive and it's really beautiful, you know? I remember feeling that way too. But what did you think about? So by the way, I just want to say that they need to have more LGBT representation on that show because they are in West Hollywood, like the gayest part of town. And it's like, I don't understand why they don't have. And Billy Lee just said she's gone now. And it's like, I have been saying we need more LGBT people on that show. on the show yeah and what did you think about billy lee you know i billy lee's another one where i feel like people were very hard on her i totally understood what billy was trying to say she was

i believe trying to say like this was a trigger for me so that whole girl's night thing was a trigger and i think like when you grow up feeling like you're always being excluded or you can't fit in with a certain gender or group then something like that can be very triggering. And so while I don't agree that they were being transphobic, like I don't think that was meant at all by the women on the show, I do understand that

she was, Billy was triggered by it. And so I kind of saw both sides to be honest with you. And I felt like everyone was very hard. And then at the reunion I got very upset because it felt like no one was letting Billy explain that. Even Lisa Vanner Pump kind of like

cut her off. And I thought, oh, this is, she's, Billy Lee was the only person on the show to be able to explain this feeling that I think a lot of LGBT people have had. Myself included, I feel like I felt that way before. And so I thought, this was a great opportunity for Billy Lita

hopefully explain it better than she had in the season, but then she was shut down so quickly. It was like... Yeah, I remember that. But did you hear about the supposedly why she left the show? No. Wait, oh,

wait, is it the Jacks? Is it because, like, someone behind, didn't she say someone behind the scenes was being, I don't tell me. They were trying to, like, she said they were, sorry, I'm trying to play the guessing game. She was saying that, like, producers were trying to, like, contrive a story about her in Candoval, a hookup. Oh, my God, I did not hear that. I did not hear that. Wait, she said producers were trying to make a storyline happen with Tom.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. I wonder if we see that. I think she's on the seats in a little bit. And I wonder if she actually got fired, because that's what I heard, that she actually just wasn't asked back, which maybe it would make sense. But about that night, it was just like for me, I was trying to understand her point of view. But I think, like, at the end of the day, I'm just thinking as me who, like, I barely want to hang out with my own friends. So, like, hang out with someone who is in my friend.

Like, then I would be like, I don't want, like, I'm not inviting you in my apartment. You know what I mean? So I was just thinking in that way, like, Katie didn't. invite her because like they're not friends but um but yeah she should have gotten uh the the platform to maybe explain that better but i did like her in um jeremy hooking up i was like okay Jeremy like i loved how he just like it wasn't even talked about you know and that's what i really respect about a lot of the cast on the show that it wasn't even like oh like shake out like you know it wasn't like a question yeah um that it was just like he was dating this woman and or they hooked up or whatever

Yeah, I would like to see more stories, more stories out of Billy Lee. I don't know. I don't know why it never quite clicked or worked out with her, but I felt like, I don't know. It's hard on that show, though, with new people. It seems like no one is quite able to fit in exactly with the old cast. And I don't know. Because it's an old, it's not like two seasons, you know? It's like so many seasons. And no turnover. Like on the housewives, they fire people all the time. And on Van Gogel comfortable is it's like the same exact cast and so i don't know on housewives i like that they keep the turnover going so that no one feels too comfortable speaking of housewives what did you think of barbara like being on the show and not being a wife but like being there and kind of weird i go back and forth with barbara like honestly she obviously she didn't fit in with the group and she didn't really offer a whole lot but then also like i felt bad for her at the end and then ultimately I think at the end of the reunion, I was like, you know what, I love Barbara, but I want her to get out of this because I don't want her to turn into a monster. She seems nice. Yeah, like she seems like true. Exactly. She seems nice and she seems like a good friend and everyone could kind of agree on that. And but I wonder, because I feel like there's something juicier behind this, like as to why she was on the show, but not a wife. Because she wasn't just a friend of. You know what I mean? She was like in every episode.

Right. Well, I had a had her on my show just a couple of weeks. ago and she had said, I had asked, like there were rumors that she had like given Bravo an ultimatum because she was like suing them at one point or something like that. But apparently, and then I heard from some people that work on the show, apparently that wasn't true. I really think it was just like she didn't have much to offer. Like so they had filmed her a lot and she was at all the events and that happens a lot with the houseways where it's like they'll film and then decide at the end of the season if their main wife or not. And from what I had heard, I don't know this to be fact,

but usually like if they show their home life, then their main wife. So they didn't follow any of Barbara's home life. She was just at all the stuff. And so that was why she ended up just being a friend of because she wasn't really offering anything in terms of like her personal life to the show. So it was like, okay, then she's just not. Whereas the rest of the women, you follow them home and you see like Derinda renovating her house and Bethany at her business.

or you see personal scenes with them. But Barbara, we never saw anything that was personal. True. Aside from her kind of talking about her sexuality, which didn't you think it was like so like 19-50s, how the housewives were like gender fluid. What is that?

Like, are you by? Like, what is that? Like, didn't you feel like that was kind of like, you almost didn't want to believe that they could be so like far behind in life? Yeah. I mean, the whole thing with her sexuality was very upsetting. Even like Ramona at a party was like,

you two fucking or something like that to like it was like so inappropriate and it felt like they were just treating her sexuality as like a party trick at times like and also like as if it was like so like ooh like really like as if they never met a gay person before like they live in new york it was just very kind of off putting to me like obviously because i mean bethany should have been like cooler about it but i feel like even she was like she kissed her at one point when they were playing like truth or dare and it was like a ha ha oh my god i kissed her it was like uh yeah and also how have you never kissed a girl in your 55 and 65 or whatever i don't know it does kind of off footing for me but um but yeah and bethany has that new uh boyfriend who looks

like he's 12 yeah he's cute to me i think he's he's handsome but yeah yeah she always has these like life or death situations where she gives me like actual anxiety i'm like bitch how are you eating miso soup and not fucking checking if it doesn't have vision it? Like what is happening? Like I literally got into

like I was having a panic attack watching and I was like you could have died because you ate gross miso soup. Yeah. I get anxiety from her Instagram stories and I'll watch them but she posts so much on her Instagram stories and it gives me anxiety.

Wait, so speaking of, I'll just say one thing about that. Didn't it kind of piss you off because I feel like you're not going to agree with me I already have a sense of your opinions. Oh my God, how dare you? She was making fun. Of Carol. Of Tinsley.

Okay. And her dog dying. Oh, yeah. And she was hysterical on Instagram when her dog died. Right. I saw her on Instagram when her dog died. And she, again, put me in deep, like, anxiety. I was like, what is happening? What do I do? And I was kind of thinking, didn't you feel like it was like bitchy of her to be kind of mocking? I mean, Tinsley did like thaw the dog and, like, defy the dog and, like, the Frosted, which is kind of weird. Bethany knows what she's doing. She knows how to play the whole game and twist and turn anything she wants.

Even with Carol, do you remember, she made such a thing of like Carol's always on social media. And I was watching that and thinking, like, I follow you both. And Bethany, you're the one who literally never puts down your phone. Like if you follow her on Instagram, which nothing wrong with that, she's building her business and it's doing great for her. But it's like she's constantly on social media posting everything she eats, everything she does. and then to hear her say to kind of like gas I don't know if gas lights the right term

but to kind of say like Carol's the one doing that it just felt like wait you're trying to trick me into believing that and I did I got tricked true and she would be like Kara like cares about what she wears and like going out all of a sudden and like acting like she's 25

but I guess like I was kind of upset when Kara left but it's like again like they keep you interested and you're like oh Carol who Like, you don't miss her. You know what I mean? I actually did miss Carol a little bit. I just feel like this past season was missing a voice.

And I'm not sure, I'm not saying they need Carol back, but I think it was missing, like, a non-narcistic voice. Because a lot of times when Carol was around, she would be in scenes with the women and she'd be asking them in questions. And she wasn't so concerned with, like, her life, but she was asking, like, Bethany or Ramona or Luan, like, what's going on with them? And this season, I noticed there was, like, a lot of scenes where it'd be, like,

Bethany and Ramona getting together or whoever. And it's like everyone just wants to talk about themselves. That's a good point. So I think it's just missing someone who's not narcissistic, but is still like an outgoing enough personality that'll give us good TV. That's a good point. I wanted to talk about another thing I saw on your Instagram and I had to rewatch it a few times, which are your ASMR videos.

Thank you. I don't know why I'm thinking. Not that you. I'm like, thank you. Thank you very much. No, they were hysterical. So you're welcome. They were hysterical.

And I had to rewatch them because they were so funny. But two things. Can you explain to us what ASMR is and do I have it and like what's going on? I don't know how to explain it. I wish I did. Like it doesn't, I don't know how to explain it. It's like basically like a whisper. It's like whispering.

Basically the ones I was doing were dubbing a whisper voice over a scene. But you also. highlight the sound effects that are going on in the scene. So it's like, I was taking scenes from Real Housewives. So I don't know. I'm trying to think of a scene. You did Teresa flip a table. Right. So Teresa flipping a table. But so you do her monologue of like prostitution horror, but you do it in a whisper tone. And then you also like put in sound effects for like the table. And what it does, it sort of highlights like the language that she was using. And so you're able to really pay attention to what she said and it's crazy and I don't know that people do it there's ASMR videos on

YouTube that are like super long and wonderful and it's not always dubbing like I was dubbing housewife scenes with it but you can go on YouTube and it's just people whispering into a microphone and it's soothing like it's soothing to the ear and so people like literally listen to these to go to bed like they listen to ASMR to go to sleep and to relax yeah oh I thought that was like so okay It's a thing. No, those were hysterical. You also did the Vanderpump rules. You did some scenes and, you know, the Stasi Pina Grigio.

And it was so funny. And people fucking loved it, right? Yeah, it was crazy. And then I did a just, I did a newlywed scene too. Speaking of Jessica Simpson, it all goes back to Jessica. But I did a newlywed scene. And yeah, they were fun to do. They were so insane.

Oh, I didn't find that. It's on there somewhere. How did it come to you to do that? I think ASMR just had gotten, I had seen ASMR popping up in every place on the internet. And so I just decided, I always see everything through a lens of housewives. Right. A true bravo-holy. I know.

It's disgusting. So, Danny, thank you so much for taking the time to chat with us here. And we know the book is coming out. Fancy A.F. Yes. Fancy A.F. Fancy A.F. what else is going on for you and where can people find you and tell us everything.

I would love everyone to listen to my podcast. It's called Everything Iconic. I have to have you on at some point. I'm not technologically advanced. So when you're in L.A., like we have to make it happen. But it's everything iconic. It's on iTunes, Spotify, wherever. And you can find me on social media at Danny Pellegrino on Twitter and Instagram.

And then I think that's it. Yeah. Just writing. I'm working on a couple other like writing projects. but I don't know. But I don't know. That's all I don't know. Danny, thank you so much again for being on.

And I've loved talking to you. This was so fun, thank you. And I'm going to have to talk to you about my journey of Southern Charm. I know. Please, you have my information. Like, email me. And when you're in town, like, we're just going to, we're going to talk about it for hours, whether you want to or not.

Sounds good. Thank you so much. Okay, you guys. Well, thank you for listening. I love you. I will see you next Tuesday. I hope that you enjoy this podcast. And if you are listening right now and are finishing up listening, screenshot that you are, DM it to me, tag me in your story, show me that you're listening, rate and review it, like I said at the beginning of the podcast. Thank you to the Podglomerate Network for producing and editing my show as per usual. Thank you to my co-host, Ariel. Thank you to you guys. And I will see you. next Tuesday.