Not Skinny But Not Fat - “Fofty” Quickie & Enty Lawyer Joins NSBNF

Episode Date: May 14, 2019

Amanda and Arielle kick off the episode with a quick rundown of everything 50 Cent (aka Fofty)/ Lala/ Randall Emmett drama which took social media by storm this weekend.    A gossip king, E...nty Lawyer, joins NSBNF and dishes on Amada’s faves like VPR and the Kardashians and spills the tea on some premium A list gossip!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:17 celebrity gossip, anything happening right now in Hollywood that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. Hey, hey, hey, welcome to another week of the not skinny but not fat podcast. I'm here, me, myself, Amanda, from Not Skinny but Not Fat on Instagram with my co-host, my sister, my sister, Jere. Arielle. How are you today? I'm so excited to be discussing what we're going to be discussing. Which we like, okay, so this is what's happening
Starting point is 00:00:49 today, you guys. We do have a very special episode for you. I have a really amazing interview coming up, which we'll get to. But first, we had to break down the crazy. fucking shit that happened this week, vis-a-vis 50 cent, Randall Emmett, and Lala. Kent, from VPR. From VPR, which, let's be honest, this is why we're all here. That's why we're gathered here today. I'm not really sure what I've done to you, but I'll take a Pino-Grigio. So I've actually documented everything on my stories, but for those who don't follow me,
Starting point is 00:01:26 and for those who wrote to me, what the fuck I need, like, a deeper explanation. of this crazy shit. It all started on, I think it was Friday. Two days ago, it was Friday. When 50 Cent out of the blue posted a clip from VPR of this season of season seven where Lala is basically telling Stasi at the nail salon basically how a relationship with Randall started, which was like he seeked her out, asked her to audition for something. As for if she's an actress, right?
Starting point is 00:01:57 Yeah, got one to audition, had sex with him. night one got her arranged over the next day and you know as you guys all know la la she was very open about it you know a gazillion times and also in this specific clip and said yeah like gave him a blowy on the pj bj for a pj whatever the fuck you know something about playing with his asshole something about yeah like real graphic real graphic sexual things and she would say like i went in as tiffany to the hotel room and did whatever i could do to get the role right but basically the gist of the clip is kind of saying like I'm with him for the money
Starting point is 00:02:33 I'm with him for the money but that's the undertone and also he used his kind of power to get her because he was like are you an actress who won a role and then they had sex and like connected or whatever right he did get her a role though by the way with
Starting point is 00:02:48 what's the name oh now Al Pacino right but her first movie The Row I think he also got her which I'm not at that part of catching up at VPR but that also happened. So basically, 50 posts this out of the blue. You don't know if it's like kind of a joke, if it's like, oh, because he's really good friends with Randall. And Randall actually produced power, which he's in. The response, oh, and the caption to that was 10 seconds left in the fourth quarter,
Starting point is 00:03:17 hoser winning. Do you want a Range Rover? Yes, bitch. Yes. Then just run out and suck a dick. L.O.L. Shake in my head. Now, comments to this were like, what the fuck is going on? 50. And he was just like, and people were like aren't isn't randall your boy and he's like yeah but he's a sucker but he's a sucker yeah at that point you were like okay he hates la la la right because he's saying like yeah he's my boy but he's a sucker then lala responds in a story which he very quickly deletes but i put it up on my story and it probably was circling on instagram where what did she say the reason i think i'll tell you what she said the reason 50 got mad was because in that story lalla said we went out to dinners and we helped you through tough times and even you like she said something about like the way 50 was or
Starting point is 00:04:03 is and then 50 got mad at that because he knew randall told her to say that then he was like no and she also no baby you're missing apart she said something about the me too movement right that which i still don't get how it's connected i kind of get how it's connected i'll say vis-a-vis v again word of the day vis-vis randle because he's kind of harvey winestein too with less power But I don't get why she was saying that she won't let 50 kind of like turn the Me Too movement against her. So could be. The Me Too Movement is all about people speaking up and coming out about, you know, how men have used their power to take advantage of women. So I don't get why she's saying that.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Right. And she also like willingly admits the fact that she does get it now. Right. But she's basically saying don't Me Too movement. Me too movement, me, we're like, I'm just being honest, we had sex. And like, also I got a role in a, in a, and a, and a, range rover. I don't, I don't really get it. So probably for various reasons, she deleted it.
Starting point is 00:05:11 And since then, 50 has just been blowing up his Instagram. Let me just be honest and just say that I haven't followed him until this like shit started going down. So then he starts posting text messages with 50 cent. I mean, between Randall and 50 cent, where Randall's like, I'm sorry, I'm really sorry. And it's kind of funny. He's calling him fifty, like F-O-F-T-Y and not 50. Like, why is it? But also, Randall's name is spelled wrong in his phone.
Starting point is 00:05:41 It's Randall. It's E-L-L. So, like, they're both can't spell. I don't get it. Basically, 50 puts up a text message exchange between Randall and him when Randall's saying he's so sorry, just stop. Like, I'm going to the ER. I'm having a heart attack.
Starting point is 00:05:56 And then we find out for the first time in this text exchange that it's all about Randall owing him money. Money. A million dollars over six years. Yeah. So I think, so at this point you're like, wait, he's mad because Randall's been shelling out all this money on Lala with PJs for BJs and not paying him back, which is like weird, but you're kind of getting this. Did you tell her you owed me a million dollars over six years? Keep playing with me. Get your fucking head cracked and.
Starting point is 00:06:26 front of everybody. See, like, the thing is, 50's fucking scary. I would never want to mess with 50. I don't know. The man, like you said, has, like, 100 lives, can get people to go and do things. Like, don't mess with 50. I mean, the thing is, like, on one hand, I did, I wrote that, like, who wants to mess with him? He has, like, a gazillion bullet holes and, like, a million lives. But at the same time, he's doing this, like, petty shit over Instagram. Back in the day, people used to shoot each other on the streets. This is, like, let me post Instagram. It's, like, petty shit. I know. But he's not. stopping. And also, where did he get this picture of Emmett, like, hooked up to a machine?
Starting point is 00:07:01 So, his name is Randall. We're going by last name. Arielle decides his name is Emmett. She's like, Emmett, put up his picture. His name is Randall, Emmett. So that text message comes. And then another text message comes where you just understand it's about money. And then a third post comes money by Monday, Randall. He's like making memes about it. He's making memes. Or someone made a meme. But basically, 50 is saying if Randall doesn't pay him by Monday, shit's going to fucking go down. Oh, my God. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:07:34 And you know what's so mean is like this selfie from the Money by Monday is when they were in a film festival for a movie they did together, Gatti or something. Okay. And Randall took this selfie. You know what I mean? Randall took this selfie and he wrote the caption for this meme, Money by Monday, Randall, says, look at this fucking fool taking selfies. You better get me my money, fool.
Starting point is 00:07:57 No, and then also he wrote in the next one, like, there's no difference between Harvey Weinstein and Randall Emmett. Now I feel like... So that post, he puts up Lala's response, which he had deleted, but like I said, it was circling the internet. Right. So then he says there's no difference
Starting point is 00:08:13 between Harvey Weinstein and Randall Emmett. This is reality, not reality TV. Bravo bitch and tags Bravo. Continues, you guys, to another meme. of someone like holding their heart and going to have a heart attack. And it says, Randall, Colan,
Starting point is 00:08:32 I'm sorry, Fifty, because he keeps on calling him Fifty, going to the ER to make sure not having a heart attack. Please, 50, no more. See,
Starting point is 00:08:39 you should have gave me my money. What the fuck is going on, L. And now my name is Fifty, L. O. Meanwhile, let me just tell you,
Starting point is 00:08:49 James Kennedy obviously fucking commented. I don't know what's happening between him, and Lala this season, but he's, like, laughing about this. In support of this, yeah. I actually saw Kristen liked it, which is weird because Kristen had just sent Lala flowers for her, like, six months sobriety. Yeah. I can't deal. VPR fucking takes over your life.
Starting point is 00:09:10 The next post of Fifty is a picture of Randall actually taking a stress test, which is a picture I was actually told it's from a while ago. Oh, it's from a while ago. Oh, oh, oh. And he put this up 50. you're not going to die before Monday, Randall. Go ahead, knock yourself out, L.O.L. Oh, my God. And then he wrote another caption underneath.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Oh, shit, Fifty is ruthless. Now, I just want my money. Oh, my God, you guys. And this is not the end. Oh, my God, the last thing. The last thing. Basically, someone, I don't know if this person is a genius or an A-hole, updated Randall Emmett's Wikipedia to, after this whole thing about him,
Starting point is 00:09:50 saying he owes 50 cent, aka 50, a million by Monday or else he faked a heart attack to get out of this this far you know what i feel like the 50 went to change randall's wikipedia but like what the fuck is going on like if this is all about money then why did he bring lala into it you know what i mean then why is he like if this is all about money then like there are other ways to sell it i think for the reason you said the reason is that he feels like lalla is taking advantage of randall a but why would he care if he doesn't hate him Because he's buying her, like, he saw that clip on VPR was like, look at this bitch, taking advantage of Randall. And then he's buying her all this stuff and he owes him a million dollars that he's probably not giving him back while buying like Lala.
Starting point is 00:10:37 But I thought he has mad money. Oh, he does have mad money. And you know what else I'm seeing in the comments? I'm seeing in the comments that people are saying that like all the girls kind of on VPR are befriending her randomly this season or like getting closer with her in season. Because of Randall. Because they want to get on the PJ. you know that makes sense that kind of makes sense because in the first season they fucking hated her out of the get-go so either they just became nice overnight and all of a sudden it's dossie and everyone wants to be friends with her or they're like why not you know you want to rub her the right way because she has like connections now right well i just feel like to just like recap this i feel like that her image on the show and like the things that she says and i know like it's great to have no filter and say what's really on your mind but it does kind of look like she's him not for love you know what I mean she makes it really hard to argue otherwise just because of
Starting point is 00:11:30 everything she's been so open about on the show which is like you know from the first season saying like wait you're a pretty girl in L.A. and you've never been up on a private jet or talking about money to the extent that she does and basically you know unlike let's say Stasi which we've talked about before she dates like freaking poor-dose people like and you know the other girls on the show her who were all dating these guys as bartenders and who have no money. She was really the only one very much putting out there that she, you know, was with dudes for money. And even James Kennedy said on one of the last episodes I watched, which was kind of like a moment that he seemed like honest, was sort of like, I probably would have been able to date Lala if I wasn't like a broke barback. Like I know it if I had mad money and I was a gazillionaire DJ, she probably would have dated me.
Starting point is 00:12:19 but that's but that's kind of such so that's sad but it doesn't have to do with randall owing fucking 50 cent a million dollars unless this is all for some huge publicity shit which is what i'm thinking like why else would you do it this way on instagram i don't know it like it seems like a conier west kind of rant to me this like resembles conier west twitter i was just told by someone my producer actually told me is like did you hear about the floyd mayweather and 50 cent thing and apparently this isn't the first time 50 cents it's coming for people no he did this with like floyd mayweather and basically came out on instagram or social media and was like if floyd could read a page of harry potter out loud and post it i'll like donate a million
Starting point is 00:13:03 dollars to any charity and basically was saying that the guy can't read right um the best wrestler in the world or the best fighter whatever he is fighter i think fighter he's a wrestler wrestler i think he's a wrestler A wrestler? I think he's a wrestler. Boxer. Voxer. Ning, me, me, me, me, me, me, me, me. We should have probably known this back deck. Well, I know Connor McGregor.
Starting point is 00:13:23 I know. That's the most important one. I'm like, oh, is, no, Floyd is the most important one. Is he still, like, in the biz? He's dead. Where is he? God, erase this. Okay, you guys, listen.
Starting point is 00:13:36 It was really, really important for us to kind of recap everything that went down. I'm terrified for Monday. By the time this comes out, it'll be Tuesday. We'll know what happened to Randall Emmett, or like Ariel calls him, Emmett. Just Emmett. Just Emmett. We'll find out if this was all for like, I don't know, the season finale of Vanderbom. We'll find out if it was, I don't know if it was for his fucking cognac brand.
Starting point is 00:14:02 If it was for, I don't know if it, because he keeps hashtagging his fucking ring. Or if it was for Randall Emmett getting more followers because he went up. like 30,000 followers. It's just like the Jordan Woods thing. I don't fucking know, but this is insane. There are memes, you know, people are capitalizing on and making shirts. I'm sorry, fifty. It's like fucking insane where I'm just saying, if this is real, like, I am scared
Starting point is 00:14:28 for him. Like, he should run and hide. He should like move to a different country. You really should never fuck with 50. Don't know money. Like, I don't know what you were thinking. Also, like, don't you have money? That's the thing you always don't.
Starting point is 00:14:41 You never know. people that look like they have the most money might be in fucking debt and like not have money. Yeah, like that, um, that documentary about the fire festival. That guy was shelling out millions of money. True, true, true, true, true, true, true, true. I don't know how we got there, but like, same. Yeah. So anyway, you guys, we'll keep on updating you on the reg, reg via my Instagram, not skinny
Starting point is 00:15:04 but not fat. And maybe next week on the podcast, we'll, you know, find out some more shit. No, what happened to Randall on Monday. Um, now we're going to head on over to my interview with NT lawyer. Um, you guys might know him from his crazy website, crazy days and nights, which for about 12 years, he's been just spilling the tea before there was the freaking catchphrase spilling the tea and chilling out celebrity gossip before anyone knew it, tabloids, news outlets. He knows it. First, this guy. He has an Instagram. He has a Twitter. And he's still revealing blinds. just crazy gossip and news from the celebrity world, like I said, before anyone knows it. So I got to talk to him and kind of find out more about him, more about crazy gossip that I didn't even know. Even I didn't know. So I hope you guys enjoy this.
Starting point is 00:15:59 And thank you for listening. I have today a different co-host or guest, not a Cicager, Ariel, but Enti, N-T lawyer, is with me. Hi, how are you? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing very well. Thank you for having me. Thank you for coming on. I, you know, I'm pretty sure we have a lot of the same people are following both of us just because we both, you know, talk about celebrities for a living and for fun. and that's basically our lives, right?
Starting point is 00:16:43 Am I wrong? You are not wrong. I mean, this is how it goes. This is how it goes. So I know you started from your website, just for people who may not know, just tell me a little bit. I know we like to talk about celebrities
Starting point is 00:16:56 and not necessarily ourselves, but tell me a little bit about, you know, who you are, how you started, and how you became just like the freaking king of like Hollywood gossip before anyone fucking knows shit. You know it. You know, it's all started.
Starting point is 00:17:11 about 12 and a half years ago and I was bored at work and I had just read one of my friends had a blog and her name's Corey Kennedy and she was kind of the I guess at the time like an it girl who was involved with Cobra Snake so like Steve Aoki and all that and so I was reading hers and I go oh that's interesting story she's talking about what happened you know the day before the night before or whatever club she was at and I said well you know I've got some stories And so I wrote a story and I wrote two stories and then it kind of, after a couple of weeks, I wrote a blind item called MV and which became, it kind of took off and I've never kind of looked back since. Wait, what was MV? That was the Jennifer Lopez lip-sinking one, which kind of blew everybody's mind at the time.
Starting point is 00:17:58 And it was called, it was called MV after Millie Vanilli. And, you know, that just brought tons of people. there's people who are reading it who sent it over to oh no they didn't and it just you know it linked and then it just kind of took off from there and it's never kind of slowed down since wait so you're the one to kind of be the first to say she was lip syncing where was she lip syncing what where that happened oh i mean she lip synced entire the story goes that there was a a person who came to me at the time who wanted, had wanted not royalties, but she was owed some money, and she had basically been the voice for the first, I think at that time, the first two albums for Jennifer
Starting point is 00:18:46 Lopez. Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, I thought you meant lip-sinking like her voice was in the backdrop of her concerts. Yeah, so, no, this person did do the recordings for the concerts, too. Oh, my God. Yeah, so the, so that kind of, um, But at the time, it was a big deal. But nowadays, it's not a big deal because everybody does that. Everyone does it. Not just, you know, people think, okay, I'm going to go to a concert. If I go see Britney Spears, I know it's going to be lip synced.
Starting point is 00:19:15 And everybody kind of accepts the fact that, okay, if you see Brittany, you know she's not actually singing. And that's fine. Back in the day, that wouldn't have been fine. But also, nowadays, if there's a high note, a lot of these people, even with Autotune, can't reach that high note. so they bring in somebody like was it Julia Michaels or whatever she will come in and she would sing a high note
Starting point is 00:19:36 for say Selena Gomez and people go they just assume it's Selena Gomez and it isn't because technology is to the point now where you can just have somebody come in and do one line and they can put that in there and nobody can really tell the difference
Starting point is 00:19:48 of who it is but back when this happened it was a pretty big deal not that it affected her career right I mean no I mean it didn't affect her career and it's not a and if you go back further than that milly-vanilly when people found out oh my gosh they didn't actually record any of their records it was basically shut them down and their entire career went to hell and same with i know this is it's more recent but it's still kind of old if you remember ashley simpson and the s and l lip-sinking thing so that was i mean that somehow destroyed her career i mean now she's kind of coming back but then i was a fan okay because i was in high school and thought I was like her like a little bit like of a freak like black hair like you know kind of emo so I was super into her and I remember that was devastating and somehow people didn't forgive her for that shit so I guess some people get away with it and some people don't well one of the things is Saturday
Starting point is 00:20:44 Live has always been and this is why a lot of people even though it's the premier get for a band or whatever is Saturday Live has never really allowed lip syncing so they've always been this is what you got. You sing or you don't and it sounds good or it doesn't. And she kind of broke one of the rules by lip syncing on Saturday Night Live. And, you know, so. I mean, she had acid reflux. Yes, she did.
Starting point is 00:21:12 Just like Misha Barton had a wisdom tooth that needed to be pulled out, which is why there was a 5150 hold. Wait, so what's the wait, tell me more about that. What's that reference? No. So, yeah, because. So see, you go way back. You get like, I, Misha Barton, like,
Starting point is 00:21:27 when the OC was on. I don't think I was even, like, watching the OC. Like, I knew of Misha Barton. No, this is way after. This is way after. Oh, after. Okay. Yeah, this is way after. This is maybe like five years ago or something like that. So Misha, who also got her sister hooked on drugs. Oh, by the way, let me just say that I know that too because her sister is kind of my age. And I mean, she's exactly my age, actually. And I won't say her name because I'll be respectful but um and one of her best friends went to my high school and she was her best like misha baron's sister's best friend went to my high school was in my group people were trying drugs at the time but you could kind of tell that they were more into that yeah so I definitely
Starting point is 00:22:15 kind of know that for for a fact okay so Misha Barton got her sister hooked on drugs yeah and then I think her sister I don't remember because it's been a few years but I think her sister overdosed Oh, no. And so, you know, it lived. But, I mean, I think that was how everybody kind of found out or sure her sister went to rehab because of it. And everybody said, and then everybody came out that, you know, Misha had got her sister on drugs. And then Misha, you know, she ended up having a 5150 hold where you are held involuntarily. And she said it was bad reaction to medication that she had when she got her wisdom teeth pulled.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And everybody was like, oh, that's just a bunch of crap. well she's making a comeback though you know she's going to be on the hills the hills reboot which is so awful that they're having to shoot the entire thing again shush i didn't know that i did not know that so i mean the thing is i was talking about this on like a few podcasts ago i think just talking about like different celebrities and different reality stars as you probably know i'm like obsessed with reality tv so obviously i'm not a hater i'm a lover but when it comes to certain characters that just don't have that judge and just don't have that charisma to be on any kind of TV, whether it's reality or like, you know, you're acting in a movie or in a show.
Starting point is 00:23:31 And the Hill Star is like, I'm sure Audrina is a fine person. Sure, Whitney is like, you know, a little cool mom or whatever. But like, no one there, aside for maybe Spencer and Heidi who are like cuckoos, no one's like that interesting, you know what I mean? And so I'm not surprised, not that Lauren Conrad is like a fucking riot, but I guess she, I don't know how they carried that show when no one, I mean, Chris and Cavalry, I guess, was like kind of pulling it together when she went on. Yeah, well, I mean, it was definitely one of the most scripted reality shows of all time. Yeah, I mean, do you remember how it ended? My heart broke.
Starting point is 00:24:14 And none of that was real. None of it was real. they fucking pulled the Hollywood sign from the back and it was just like what even though we kind of knew so I really wonder you know what this is going to look like and Misha Barton like the fuck like that's making it even weirder well about a month ago no maybe even two months ago so when they originally finished filming I got you know at the end when they say oh what's everybody up to kind of thing um so I got the the the card that said what everybody was up to. And I posted it or talked about it. And it was the most boring stuff in the entire world. It was like, oh, so-and-so continues to. And it was just, okay, this is, this is ridiculous. And then it turns out about three weeks ago, maybe it started finally leaking out that the first, that it was just completely boring. Nobody was going to watch it. So then they started reshooting. And I think that they wanted Misha to go all in and be an evil kind of person, maybe reminiscent of,
Starting point is 00:25:18 like the OC or something and just kind of stir things up just to try and make it interesting because it is, I mean, there's nobody on there that has any kind of personality. They're just kind of vanilla. And they're so exactly like, amen. You know, and if you don't have somebody scripting it, it's just, it's, it's going to be boring. It's not something like Jersey Shore where everybody has their own personality and, you know, there's not really anything boring about it, they can find enough stuff. And I think part of the problem was when they originally cast, you know, for, what was the Laguna Beach or whatever it was called, you know, they were so young and then,
Starting point is 00:25:58 you know, they were kind of malleable and they said, okay, well, this is how we wanted to go. And there was these storylines that were established that they carried over into the hills. And they were just willing to kind of act rather than be. You know, if you look back at the real world or something like that, I mean, they, they really cast, they really tried to find they're the first people that said, okay, we need a villain, we need this person, we need the person who the guy will sleep with anybody, we need, you know, this, we need this, we need this character and this character and this character. And they kind of set the tone for every single reality show that's ever
Starting point is 00:26:33 come since. The real world. Yeah. Yeah, I know. I used to watch. They don't do that anymore, right? They just do the challenge. Like, the challenge never ends. The challenge never ends. Oh, my God. Do you know that I used to watch it, though? I used to actually watch it. Like, there was CT and, like, I mean, he's the only one that's, like, popping into my head right now. But I used to watch it.
Starting point is 00:26:55 And I actually recently found out that Southern Charm, so the show on Bravo, I don't know. Do you watch Bravo shows? I do. I watch Southern Charm. Oh, you do? So Cameron was on the real world of San Diego. And I was like, that's why she looks familiar. Yes.
Starting point is 00:27:09 And gorgeous. But that's the thing. When someone's so pretty, I might mind, I'm like, oh, I know her from somewhere, or is she just pretty? So I think she's like, you know, an actress or something. Yeah, I mean, there have been actresses that have, you know, come from that. Yeah. No, I love the real world. I thought it was so cool.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I wonder why they kept the challenge going and not the real world. But so tell me about Bravo shows. Which are your fave, which do you watch? Here's the thing. So I watch, I watch Southern Charm. Any Bravo show, I wait till the almost the end of the season. I will generally binge watch when there's about two or three episodes left in the season. And I'll try and bang it out over a weekend or something.
Starting point is 00:27:54 Okay. And so I'll catch the last two episodes and then however many reunions there are. Southern Charm is a really good one. I think that there's a lot of gossip that comes from that. I think there's a lot of drama. So I watched that. You know what I heard, though? You know what I heard.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So I heard a lot about Chep because I haven't watched yet. but I was told by everyone there who did watch, they said, start from the second season. So, but you, yeah, for some reason, people weren't, like they love the show, they're obsessed, but they're like, you can just start from the second season. Well, after the first season, there was a question after the first season,
Starting point is 00:28:26 whether or not it would get renewed. The second season's great. There's nothing wrong with the first season. It's a dramatically different kind of thing. You know, Catherine goes full on crazy, I think, in the second season, which is kind of nice to watch. I mean, there's, Do you watch it?
Starting point is 00:28:42 I will. I will. As you may know, I am deep trying to freaking catch up on seven seasons of VPR. So I'm committing my time to that right now. And the thing is, like, you said you're banging things out in the weekend. I've been trying to bang out VPR since January. Well, you get busy. Yeah, you get busy.
Starting point is 00:29:01 But each season has 25 episodes that are an hour long. Yes. And then three reunions and then a secrets revealed. Okay. And, like, give me more. Like, I don't want to finish this show ever, but it's still, it's not like, let's bang these, like, 10 episodes out. You know, there's, like, 25 for season, but I'm enjoying it.
Starting point is 00:29:22 It's become, like, such a big part of my life. And, like, so do you watch VPR? You know, I try not to, because it is so end-all, be-all. I mean, you can just get, it's constant, and, yeah, sucked into it, you know? And, you know, I tried to catch up because I had a, um, Peter on the show not too long ago, and so I tried to catch up a little bit, and just so I could hammer him on some questions. You know, I stay away. I watch Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. I watch New York. I watch, but I try and stay away from talking about, like, Beverly Hills or
Starting point is 00:29:58 Vanderpump Rules, because I tend to know more people in Beverly Hills and Vanderpump Rules, and you run into them, and I'm always afraid that I'm going to say something that, wasn't on a show or I'm going to spoil something. Really? But you say so much about like A-lister's. So like how do you, so why are you caring about reality stars as much? Just because I interact with them more. Oh, I see.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It's like you won't run into Angelina Jolie, but you might run into like Peter Madrigal or something. Right. And it's not that I wouldn't run into Angelina Jolie, but I'm just not probably having dinner with her or getting drunk. hear her or something like that. So I try and be very careful about the locals. Now, I don't have that problem with say Shaw's of Sunset, even though they're local. I just, that doesn't ever seem to be an issue or. I mean, there is, I mean, I completely understand. There is a line like, you know,
Starting point is 00:31:01 I was, for example, I didn't, I actually surprisingly regarding VPR put up a lot of stuff about the show and I'll say like oh my god jacks did this or oh my god this and that but usually like i don't really hate anyone on the show or i don't really like um come for one person and say oh sheena's the worst or because i'm i'm watching the show as if it's like a scripted television show like i'm enjoying it i like the characters i like the drama i'm waiting for shit to happen so i'm not like hating on people that are you know trouble stirs and stuff like that and people do right you'll see like people telling me like oh like how don't you hate china or like blah blah blah is the worst but i do say some stuff so i did like for example say something about la la's like a botox
Starting point is 00:31:48 filler whatever she's she's very overly done and then i happen to meet her she's completely overdone and i do talk about her relationship and i do talk about jacks is really like to wait NT, did you see today what 50 Cent put up? So 50 Cent put up a video of Lala talking about how she had sex with Randall. The first night they went out and she got a freaking rangerover next day and all this and all that. Not that she hasn't spoken like that before, but this was a clip where she's like telling Sossie, like when we met, we went out the next day got a range rover, blowy, blowy, PJ, PJ, whatever, okay? 50 posts this, 50 cent, who happens to be good friends with Randall, I've learned now.
Starting point is 00:32:40 So he posts this and writes in the caption, which is interesting because it's kind of hard for me to like completely understand what he's trying to say. But he did write, 10 seconds left in the fourth quarter, hoes are winning. Do you want a range over? Yes, bitch, yes. Then just run out and suck a dick. L.O.L. shaking my head. But, you know, it's, Lala, I mean, I don't think she's ever been shy about the fact that she's a sugar baby and that she was, you know, she will say that she didn't have sex with these guys, even though she's taking all these trips, which is just a bunch of crap.
Starting point is 00:33:15 I mean, you don't want anyone else to say it, you know what I mean? Like, I'm sure she ain't happy with this. Well, no, I mean, I think that she's kind of implied that in the fact that, you know, she has been taken care of by guys. and I don't think that it's a stretch to know that, hey, yeah, you know, I had sex with Randall. I blew him and he gave me a Range Rover. I'm kind of used to that. Yeah, I mean, good. Like, on one hand, I'm like, good for her for being kind of honest about it.
Starting point is 00:33:39 But on the other hand, it's like, so now I see in the comments, 50 is saying that Randall's a sucker. Because people are asking him, aren't you friends with him? Like, isn't he your producer? And he said, yeah, he's a sucker. He is a sucker. Come to my hotel and act like you really want the role. than suck a dick. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:33:59 This is kind of, I feel bad because, you know, like you said, when you meet the people, you're like, they're people. And like, that's why I even felt bad.
Starting point is 00:34:07 So I'm not saying harsh shit, right? The worst I've said about Lala in my stories is that she was so beautiful in the first seasons. And I really don't think, you know,
Starting point is 00:34:17 you live in California. I live in New York. You probably see a lot more in Hollywood, you know, those, those freaking Botox and filled faces. Like,
Starting point is 00:34:25 I don't see it as much here. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. In New York, it's kind of different. In L.A., I'm sure, like, everyone kind of, everyone's doing it from, like, 23 years old. But I just think she's a pretty girl, and she doesn't have to do that. And that's the worst I said. But then when I met her, I immediately was like, she's a person.
Starting point is 00:34:44 I feel bad that I even, you know, put her, you know, face up and, like, talked about it. But I was honest, and I told her in real life, I was like, Lolly, your lips look so much better in real life. Like, on Instagram, they kind of look more blown up. and less proportionate than they do. So I felt good that I at least was like kind of honest. You know what I mean? Yeah, it's not that I even have a problem of them. It's kind of complicated.
Starting point is 00:35:08 It's not that I have a problem with them knowing that it'll talk smack. Because I will talk about Lala and I will talk about her relationship with Randall. And I will say that Randall is a sucker and that if Randall didn't have any money or he lost all his money, Lala would be gone the next day. Yeah. So, you know, so I don't have a problem with that. I don't have a problem talking about Jackson's, you know, a relationship with Brittany. My thing is that I'm just careful about some of the things because of some of the people that I will run into and some of the people that I have known for a long time.
Starting point is 00:35:39 And it's more of a personal, not safety, but just not being outed. And there's some people, you know, that on Beverly Hills that I've known for a very long time. So I'm just very careful about what I say on some of the people from Beverly Hills. And so some of that carries over into Van Gogh. because there's a little crossover with Lisa going to both and I have a long history with Lisa and I just, you know, so I'm just really careful about where I go on those. I see what you're saying. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:11 And then Real Houseways of New York, are you comfortable talking about? Is there any good juice there? Yeah, I mean, I'm always happy to talk about, you know, New York. I think that... Which has kind of been a snooze fest this season. Like, I love them. And like you said before about the hills, like, And the opposite of that, like, in New York, everyone's kind of a character.
Starting point is 00:36:31 So, like, they can be doing nothing and it's interesting, but at the same time, I feel like, I don't know if you've watched, like, the first few episodes of this season, but it's feeling like it's not really going anywhere. No, you know, I haven't watched it, but I know enough about this season. I mean, last season, I thought, and I've talked about this a lot, I thought that it was really forced last season. And I thought that the whole Bethany drama with Carol was just kind of, it was forced. and they wanted her out of the show, and this was the way that they were going to kind of make it happen or look like, okay, this is the way we can get rid of her. I thought that Andy, you know, he is so far up, Bethany's ass,
Starting point is 00:37:10 that it's not even funny. You think, you think? Why do you think that? I mean, he will take her side on anything. On anything. He never calls her out for anything. He is willing to give her any kind of spinoff that she wants. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:37:24 You know, and this season, I was kind of, what I've heard is that Bethany kind of takes a step back and because... She does. You're right. I even noticed yesterday I was watching the episode and I was like, wait, Bethany's not even here yet. And she got to like, you know, the spa day that they did like kind of late. And I was like, that's weird. I kind of didn't even notice it because like it's kind of been like that since the beginning of the season. But it's funny because the day that I was at Bravo, you know, one of the things that, you know, people kept on bringing up that it seems like in the franchise of the housewives,
Starting point is 00:37:56 there are a few people that are untouchables like Bethany. Another one was Lisa. I'm not sure that's actually true. Of course it's true. Here's the thing. Just because think about the Bravo lineup. What have you been committing yourself to
Starting point is 00:38:12 all year? You've been committing Vanderpump rules. Oh, and who owns that stuff? You know, Lisa. Okay. So do you think that Bravo would endanger any kind of a relationship with Lisa Vanderbond. Right. Okay. But how does Bethany then,
Starting point is 00:38:29 you know, what would you say about Bethany just that she gives like the most interesting? I just think that she and Andy have a long relationship that goes back many, many, many, many years. And she is allowed to do whichever she wants. And, you know, if they want, and the reason I think that
Starting point is 00:38:47 she stepped back this year is not almost that she stepped back, but the fact that she was just so front and center last season, it was just, okay, my job this season is just a pick of fight with every single person, even though the fight's never made sense. And everybody's like, why are you guys
Starting point is 00:39:02 fighting again? Remember, every single episode, it's why are you fighting? Why are you fighting? And there was never a resolution to why anybody was fighting. But you know what, Auntie, I'm such a sucker. Like, the minute Bethany starts crying and, like, hyperventilating, I super relate and I, like, believe it. Do you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:39:18 Like, it's... Yeah, well, she's a good actress. She was an actress. She was... She acted. I mean, that's how she started, right? She was an actress. That's how she started. I mean, it's crazy to think about because I remember the first season of New York, which is funny to think, like, how she was even a housewife
Starting point is 00:39:35 when she barely had money to, like, pay rent and had this, like, shitty, you know, apartment on the Upper East Side and Jill Zarin and, like, I love that. I love the beginning of New York. No, I think that Kelly and Bethany, I mean, that was, you know, they should bring Kelly back. But if you think about the, you know, the origins of how. Housewives. It's, you know, it stems from the show, the OC. And so then, okay, so we have O.C. And then we had Laguda Beach and on that. So let's talk about the real Housewives of Orange
Starting point is 00:40:07 County, not the fictional ones that we see on the OC. Right. So then you bring them in. And if you go back and watch that first season, it's not about being rich. It's not about anything. Everybody, there was no interaction in that first season of the Real Housewives of Orange County. They each had their own individual things and nobody ever brought them together. It was more of a docu-drama kind of thing than any kind of reality show. I see. Yeah. And if you've got to go back.
Starting point is 00:40:36 You should go back and watch the first season and see how Real Housewives is just totally transformed. And, you know, the reunion show, I think that, you know, it was by a pool and they're all just wearing normal clothes. And it's, you know, it's not the, you know, the New Jersey mob wives kind of, you know, dressing the gowns that you see now kind of thing or everybody dressed up and it was a completely different kind of format and it's you don't it's somehow decided okay well now we need to be rich you know but there was never even the first season joe wasn't a housewife so she was just a girlfriend so it hasn't always been you know a housewife kind of thing and i think they just find interesting people but like you said bethany obviously okay why is she here because she's a friend of
Starting point is 00:41:24 She's a friend. What do you think about Andy? Next question. No, no. I do not personally think that he's a very nice guy. Yeah. That's, you know, and people can have their own opinions because he, he pretends to be Mr. Nice guy on TV, but behind the scenes, he's not a nice guy.
Starting point is 00:41:48 He generally is backstabbing. There was a lot of drama. you know, about when Ryan Sechrist got the, the Kelly Rippa gig, I think Andy was really, really pissed about that. Really? And that he wanted that. Was he up for it or? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:05 And I think that he, you know, I don't think the way that he necessarily, you know, treated Kathy Griffin was all that great. Wait, let me tell you what I think. I think I've always noticed at reunions of any show, whether it be the housewives or Vanderpump, like you could tell who he favorites, right? like you could tell like whole roll his eyes like legit roll his eyes at like stasi and Kristen he won't even say hi to Kristen okay like there was a freaking reunion where he was like hi so and so so he forgot Kristen Kristen was like um hi Andy like you can tell who he likes and doesn't like
Starting point is 00:42:44 and I would always think like I would want Andy to like me like if I was a housewife or if I was you know on on a cast I wouldn't want Andy to fucking forget saying hi to me so the day I went to Bravo, we got to go to watch what happens live at night. And I was mostly excited that Ariana and Lala were going to be guests. Like, I wasn't in my head like fan girling over Andy as much, but obviously it would be nice to meet him. So I could tell. And basically, they brought all these like Bravo kind of influencers to this day. And, you know, you could tell that when he was brought out to meet us, it was so going through the motions for him. And I could just see it. You know what I mean? That it was like a fake half smile that he was like, okay,
Starting point is 00:43:28 ugh, like, you know, let's get through this. Let's get through this. So I come up and I'm like, hey, picture, you know, which I feel stupid doing anyway. Um, and he just did this like half smile and it came out and I was trying to be cute and friendly because I had been cute and friendly all day trying to network, you know? So I'm like, so like, do you think it's cute? And he's like, just look to me like I was a peasant. Like, that's what I felt like at that moment. And he was like, I don't know, like, whatever you think. Just like, and I'm like, well, you look good. I like kept sucking his ass, which like I'm kind of mad at myself.
Starting point is 00:44:02 I was like, well, you look good. Like, I don't know about me or something. And he's like, uh-uh. So I felt dumb after that minute. And then when we got to the studio and they had to rile us up for, you know, clapping for the guests that we're going to enter, he was, he was being, you know, on. Like when he was on, he was on.
Starting point is 00:44:23 You know what I mean? And it kind of felt like, wait, so, you know, you couldn't give us 10 minutes of like, hey, guys, thank you for all being such ambassadors of this fucking channel that I'm, you know, basically marionnetting or whatever. I kind of realized that day that he does kind of like a lot. So it was kind of such a shift for me to be like, so who are you fucking Andy? Like, can you be nicer? It was kind of disappointing. I have in my gossip kind of things. I mean, there's people that guys who've had encounters with him or sexual encounters and, you know, he wasn't very nice to them. And, you know, he does think that he's, here's how you can kind of tell. Think about how much he kisses like Sarah Jessica Barker's ass. Right.
Starting point is 00:45:12 And then think about how nice he was to you, which is the polar opposite. He came from being like a production. assistant at CBS News or something like that. Right. And I think he has, he's you know, he's got this chip and if you can't help him, then he's not going to help you. And that is a thing
Starting point is 00:45:32 about celebrities. It's, it's, you will see why he still kind of kisses Anderson Cooper's ass. Now, this is not to, just because I don't personally like him and I don't think that he's a very nice person, not take away from the fact that the guy has like 13 jobs.
Starting point is 00:45:48 And that he works extremely hard at what he does, and he has created a brand for himself. Now, was that brand because he was super thirsty? Yeah, I mean, to take a, he got the taste of being in front of the camera when they started doing the reunions way back with the OC. And I think he just loved that so much. And that's how, you know, Watch What Happens Live came about. And he used to when the reunions, before Watch What Happens Live, he would ask direct questions. He would ask questions that I always want reporters to ask that one of the reasons I like Wendy Williams is because she will ask a tough question. And Andy would ask those. And those have kind of gone
Starting point is 00:46:32 by the wayside as he has become more enamored of celebrity. And a celebrity liking him is more important than asking a question. But what he can do is these reality stars are these housewives. They are, he considers them beneath him. And so he will. continue asking them tough questions. But if you ever hear his show, like I'm Radio Andy or something, if there's any celebrity who comes on there, he will not ask them any kind of question that would possibly make them uncomfortable. You know, so I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:06 That makes sense. That really does. I mean, it makes sense. And thank you for sharing that kind of like insider or, you know, your thoughts about that. And to be like, really, I really don't dislike him at all. I just was asked a lot about how my encounter was with him. And I thought this was a good, I wanted to see what you would say. So I'm happy that, you know, my experience kind of makes sense.
Starting point is 00:47:29 And it wasn't just me being insecure and feeling like, you know, he doesn't like me, which like he doesn't care, obviously, but definitely makes sense. And, you know, at the end of the day, he is super successful and he's doing what he's doing. And I just think being nice to people is kind of like, the way you have to be. I just find that so important. And I wish that that was kind of a nicer experience just because, you know,
Starting point is 00:47:56 I love Bravo and he's kind of the face of it. But, you know, next time. There's a thing that, because Anderson Cooper and Andy go on this tour, you know, they have this tour that they go on together. And there is a segment on Radio Andy where they will, Anderson and Andy will talk for about 10 minutes for a show that they do.
Starting point is 00:48:19 they will talk for about 10 minutes after. And often, so if you go on On Demand, you can find it, and it's these clips. And it's kind of, it kind of shows Anderson in really not the best light in the whole world. And so I'm not really sure why he continues to do them. It kind of shows that even Anderson can be kind of an A-hole and, you know, that he's very demanding. But at the same time, it also shows you how Andy still kisses up to Anderson because he considers Anderson, I think maybe higher on the list and, you know, a Vanderbilt, and that's something that means a lot to Andy. But, yeah, so, but, and then you'll hear Andy talk about, you know,
Starting point is 00:49:02 Anderson and Andy once went on a date and Anderson, yeah, so it lasted for five seconds because he could tell that he didn't like Andy. And he didn't like Andy, I think, as a, as a person at that point. And it's kind of, you know, slowly changed. And we're going to take a break real quick and be right back. So do you watch the Kardashians? That's another reality show that, I mean, let's be like honest, it's not like the most interesting. It's probably also a lot scripted.
Starting point is 00:49:40 But I just have to. It's one of those things. I have to check off. I have to know what's going on. Do you feel that way at all? Well, I mean, I know that you're a huge Courtney fan. I know, I'm jealous. Stop!
Starting point is 00:49:54 That's it, we're done. I have watched more of it than I probably should have. I guess I'm probably, I don't know, in the actual show, maybe two seasons behind or something like that, because I feel as if I kind of live it every day because I'm talking about it or writing about it, and I don't really need to actually see it. And also it's come to the point now where I kind of know what's going to be on before it's even on.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Right, I mean, but you and everyone else, like this isn't, this isn't like, you know, the show is filmed for the 10 freaking episodes that come out are filmed for a year, you know? So obviously, by the point that it comes out, we know what's happened. And it's not a lot of things. So, like, we know the Jordan and Tristan scandal is going to be on the season. And we know that it's probably going to be on the last episode. in the last five minutes, and they're going to make us wait a whole season of, like, just drawn out, like, staged conversations over salad and tea to get to that.
Starting point is 00:50:59 And probably, I promise you, it'll say to be continued at the end, and we're not going to get, you know, the real behind the scenes of the drama. Do you, what was it like for you during the time of the Tristan and Jordan scandal? Do you have a lot of leads coming in? Like, what were your days crazy? No, but here's my thing, is that I don't think that, like, sorry, I'm losing my voice. So, Chloe, I mean, this is the, this was my problem with Chloe, is that for, I guess, two years or whatever, I mean, I've been writing Tristan's cheating on you, Tristan's cheating on you, the entire world. Oh, you were?
Starting point is 00:51:37 Okay, well, tell me, so you were writing as a blind? Well, blinds, and then I would reveal it. I mean, I have no problems revealing because Tristan was cheating on her constantly, and the thing is she, knew Tristan was cheating on her, the entire world. This is not a secret. Everybody in the entire world knew that Tristan was cheating on her. And then she took him. You're saying even before, I'm sorry, even before the first photos, like before Jordan. No, before Jordan, before the first time that she, she broke up with him, well, broke up with him because remember. When he induced her labor, yeah. Yeah. So, okay. So before that, before. And then obviously, you know, when she was pregnant,
Starting point is 00:52:14 he was cheating on her and that was kind of public knowledge. And then, you know, know, she finally kind of maybe takes him back a little bit, but this whole NBA season, he was cheating on her. And then it finally, okay, so Jordan is the tipping point. And then she said, you know, Jordan, you know, thanks for breaking, thanks for splitting us up or whatever. And the entire, the entire world jumped down Chloe's throat. And she goes, oh, well, I didn't mean it like that. It's not Jordan's fault. But, you know, what she did mean that it was Jordan's fault. that the problem is, is that the entire world jumped on, you know, took Jordan's side on this kind of thing and said, Chloe, you're an idiot because we all know that Tristan's been cheating on you and you can't blame it on Jordan. But the reason that you wanted to do that was for the storyline. And the problem that I have with the Kardashian show is that they... What do you mean? Can you just delve deep into that for a minute? You're saying that the reason Chloe was retaliating against Jordan, kind of blaming her on like Twitter and stuff, was for the show.
Starting point is 00:53:13 I think that she was going for that angle. Like, because everything's talked about, you know, with Chris. So, okay, we're going to blame Jordan. And what the problem with the Kardashian show in which you've kind of talked about is, it's, you know, they film it forever, trying to get something. And what they do, and they've done it all the way back since the Chris Humphrey's split, is they find something, whatever it is that they can latch on to, and then they go back and they reshoot.
Starting point is 00:53:41 And then they turn that. into the story. Right. Because we know just time-wise that they had finished shooting the season. And when the drama happened, they shot that. And more than that, they made the whole freaking trailer for the season just about that drama and that scandal where it wasn't even shot for the whole year, 10 months. So that was, you know what? That was when I started seeing what everyone was talking about, which was like, okay, Amanda. late to the game but you know i've always been like you know stop hating on the kardashians it's a freaking show and like blah blah blah but then when this happened and i saw
Starting point is 00:54:23 the trailer and the trailer was so exploiting of that um moment and of fucking chloe's life um i kind of understood what everyone is talking about how the kardashians does it in a more extreme way like that every reality show kind of does it but the Kardashians do it even more so and that's when I kind of saw that and I was like oh I see that now what everyone's talking about that it's so manipulated that it's so orchestrated to fit there like you know the the show um that I was disappointed because you know Chloe this is real life like she was fucking hurt and for that to be like her crying you know like crazy be like the face of this season and it's just like it seems like
Starting point is 00:55:11 just kind of yeah well so let's talk about that so we know that the entire world know that Tristan cheated on while she was pregnant right so then they basically
Starting point is 00:55:22 separate and he stays in Cleveland I don't even know if she went I think maybe she went to Cleveland one time right the whole the whole year so here's the thing so Tristan comes back they haven't seen each other in months and months and months
Starting point is 00:55:33 okay so he comes back because the all-star game is in L.A. So he comes back and on Thursday night they go out. Okay. And then on Friday night, and let's not forget that this was Valentine's Day weekend. Okay. So he has not seen her, but yet he sees her one kind of night when he, during the middle of the week, during the beginning of the week, he was out cheating on her before. So like I think it was Monday night or something. They go out to dinner on Wednesday
Starting point is 00:56:00 or Thursday night. And then he's out partying on Friday night and Saturday night. And then finally I think Jordan was on a Sunday night. And he's cheating every single night, but then the Jordan night, then all of a sudden she's like, Jordan, it's your fault that we're splitting. But he didn't spend any time with Chloe other than that one dinner. And remember, he hasn't seen her in months and months and months. And they're supposedly together. But they weren't together. They haven't been together. She made it seem like they were together, but they weren't. Because there is no way on this earth that if you were with somebody and you haven't seen them in three or four months and you have a child together that you're going to spend one dinner together the entire
Starting point is 00:56:39 week that he's here and then he's going to like party for like days on it exactly exactly so they were not together so what happened was when jordan got caught they said oh my gosh this is our season now even though chloe has you know they aren't together we can use this and this will be our hook because have you ever and honestly think about this as objectively in every single relationship in every single season, whether it's, you know, Chloe and Courtney take Miami, Lamar and Chloe, whoever, have you ever seen any relationship on the show where any of the Kardashian daughters or Jenner daughters were to blame for the end of a relationship? No, you're right, no. None.
Starting point is 00:57:23 So you're telling me that in all the relationships, and there's been dozens and dozens and dozens, none of them. Not one has been because of them. It has all been because of the guys. you know the thing this makes me sad for is jordan kind of you know that if this is true and this was all like not that she didn't do it and it's fucked up to kiley or whatever but even from even when this was all happening you know i was just like tristan is the fucking a-hole you know he's the douche lord he's the cheater he's the awful dude the fact that jordan did this is is you know she she could have respected her friendship with Kylie and with the family more, but she, he wasn't the face of
Starting point is 00:58:06 this. Like, you didn't see his pictures plastered over Instagram. You know, you didn't see, you know, it was just like, yeah, he cheats. He's a cheater. He's whatever. And like, Jordan is to blame. So, you know, on one hand, I kind of feel bad for her. On the other hand, like, I know this sounds kind of, you know, cynical, but she is kind of monetizing that. And her followers went out by freaking a million. I think the last time I checked, she went up by a million followers and, you know, was getting brand deals and things. So I don't know if it was worth it for her, but it might have been. Oh, I'm sure it was worth it for her.
Starting point is 00:58:39 And, you know, I mean, she was not going to ever step out of being anything other than Kylie's friend. And you never know when the Kylie friendship is going to end. You know, so, and, you know, I was just trying to go back in my mind. The only time I can ever think of a Kardashian slightly in the wrong was when Rob and, what's her face, Adrian Belhony. No. The first one.
Starting point is 00:59:03 Yeah, so kind of because she suggested that he had been cheating on her, but they don't really actually come out and say it. But that was the only time in all of the history of every relationship that maybe a Kardashian was at fault. And they kind of, you know, rug swept that. So it's just this constant manipulations, this constant, okay, let's come over the storyline. Let's, okay, we'll have Kendall, you know, we'll kind of try and find some. boyfriend that is believable this time and you know we just kind of go on from the mirror what do you think
Starting point is 00:59:34 about kendall you think she's she's into women it was that the insinuation i will i will say that i have a hard time um you know they really try hard to find boyfriend we haven't seen her being intimate or like into dudes i think ever never never ever yeah so i mean she's supposedly dating uh ben higgins is his name? Ben Simmons, who was a fillet. But the thing, but the thing is, is that people, and so, okay, well, this isn't really going well. The whole Ben thing. So what we'll do is we'll make up a ridiculous thing, and it'll make it seem, okay, she's, you know, this is, this is Kendall, she's kind of, and they said, oh, she made out with French Montana. Well, first of all, there's no way that she would do that because Chloe and French Montana kind of have a history.
Starting point is 01:00:23 Right. You know, but French Montana is really, really tight with all the Kardashians. so he'll go along with it and it's just it's so manipulated and I it's so manipulated yeah I hate things I know I could kind of want to be like I just want to like you know not know all of this
Starting point is 01:00:42 do you ever feel like that like that the more you know you can less enjoy like the things that you use to kind of relish in and be kind of like okay this is what's happening and I'm just going to believe it as I see it and not dig too deep well I don't know because if you think of it as a scripted show, it's fine.
Starting point is 01:01:01 You know, if you... No, if you think about it as a scripted show, it sucks. Let's be honest. Like, if you think about it as a scripted show, then it's like, do a better job, like, have something happen. But did you ever have any... So you had the Tristan, you were saying a bunch that he was cheating before. Did you have any other good reveals about the Kardashians?
Starting point is 01:01:23 Well, I mean, there's always the fact that Tiger never had any money and Kylie paid all the bills. One of the things that's really interesting that I've never it appears if you have a child with one, then you're kind of protected, which is why you didn't see Tristan getting hammered like you saw
Starting point is 01:01:40 Jordan. You didn't see you don't see something. Scott, and you know what I talk about a lot is that I fucking think Scott is super hot. Okay, I think he's funny. I think he's a character. I've always liked him. But Scott, it's been
Starting point is 01:01:56 insinuated it's been kind of like on the show in the first seasons like they broke up because of it but like didn't really talk about it so like he cheated on Courtney a bunch but like we but it was never spread like this it was never you know no one people freaking he's part of the family still exactly because they have children together so it's kind of like this so Travis Scott there was a story that that somebody gave me um I want to say it was a reporter and they had the sources that They had three, I think, but they just decided not to run it because Chris Jenner came down on them hard. Okay? So they gave it to me. And the story goes like this. So Travis Scott has women that come over. He takes their cell phones. He deposits them in a basket.
Starting point is 01:02:40 And he has them all put on wife beaters shirts. And then they go into this bedroom where he has a multi-level bed and then they'll have sex. So, but here's the thing is that this was like hammered down. But Christianer, because of the fact that Travis Scott is part of the family because they have a child together, okay? So he is exempt from, if it was anybody else, they'd be, okay, you know, this guy, he's horrible. We've got to get rid of him. We'll make him part of the storyline. But they can't because, you know, they have a child together.
Starting point is 01:03:15 Now, regardless of the fact that the child was a result of a one-night stand. Wait, hold on. What, what, the child was a result of a one-night stand? Yeah, so the first night they made. met they hooked up it was unprotected she got pregnant and okay and they stayed together they were not together for and then when she found out that she was pregnant they got back together and if you do the math on when the baby was born i mean it works out to exactly that day exactly that day you know what but doesn't it's okay i get protecting the children like okay which you know should make us a little
Starting point is 01:03:49 like you know happier or more believing in the Kardashians that at least they care about protecting the children. It's not about protecting the, well, it is, but it's also protecting that they don't want the children to see their parents being trashed. That's what it is. So that's why you won't see Travis being trashed, even though he's the biggest stoner in the world. He misses shows. He cheats on her. You won't see that. And you know what? I'm sorry, this is unrelated. I don't get him. I've seen him. They brought him out at some show that I was out. And I don't get it. I'm like, am I missing something? The dude's running around, like, legit, running around the stage and just like screaming things and I don't get the music at all.
Starting point is 01:04:31 Yeah, that's, I mean, I don't get why women are staying in these situations. Like, why freaking stay with him? You're Kylie Jenner. You don't need a no man. Definitely you don't need that piece of shit if he's cheating on you. Like, fuck, why? They do, though. So, but you don't see him getting trash.
Starting point is 01:04:50 You don't see Scott getting trash because they have kids together. You don't see Tristan getting trash because they have. kids together, right? There's this, I mean, Tristan should be hung out to dry and instead, they're saying, let's take Jordan out instead. And that's why the entire world came down on Chloe. And then she had to circle back. Listen, Tristan induced her labor. Like, I don't give a shit about the Jordan thing. Like, to go back to that, like, her labor was induced that day or something, right? You know what I mean when that came out the first time around when he was like motorboating some chicks in new york how was he not thrown out you know i remember even that episode i don't know if you saw it but
Starting point is 01:05:35 they came to the delivery room like in cleveland uh the Kardashians and i remember you know chloe being like be nice to him in the room and like don't be mean to him and like kim was joking around and like doing this like slit throat movement like i'm gonna kill him i'm gonna kill him and it wasn't, it should have been way more, you know, it should have been taken so much more seriously. And, you know, on these reality shows sometimes, cheating is taken so lightly. Or is it in Hollywood that cheating is taken so lightly? Like, I don't know. In my world, it's like not an acceptable thing. You know what I mean? And you see it on Vanderpump, you see it like in other places where it's like, oh, we cheated. Okay. Like cheating, cheating. It's just like happens all the time.
Starting point is 01:06:17 People stay in these places. It's really sad. to me. It does happen all the time. I mean, in LA, it just, it's seemingly, I mean, every, seemingly everybody cheats. And. And everyone cheats. Because there's so much like distraction and just so much. Well, I mean, if you think about like van der Pump, of course it's going to happen, you know, because they're most, well, they're getting older now. But I mean, you know, you're working, you know, in a, in a night spot. There's always drinking. You're always hanging out at two o'clock in the morning after you get off work. Um, you know, waiters and waitresses have been hooking up since the beginning of time, right? So, and they, they run through
Starting point is 01:06:53 relationships. They find somebody different. I mean, that's, that to me is not unusual. And then when you have relationships between, um, actors and actresses, and they're going to sets and they're leaving their, their, their significant other for four months while they go film overseas and they're having, you know, love things with somebody else or they're, you know, it's just, it's too easy. And, Which brings me, I think weren't you the first to kind of reveal the Angelina and Brad? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, tell us a little bit about that. I know we're going to go from like D-List to A-List, but yeah, but you do a lot about, you know, actual Hollywood actors and actresses.
Starting point is 01:07:35 And that was a pretty big, big reveal. I mean, that was fucking huge. Yeah, I mean, they, there's so many A-lister's. You think that just because they're an A-Listers, you think that just because they're an A-List, her that they they don't cheat or something like that. And that's just not the case. And, you know, Angelina, you know, if you look at the history of Angelina Jolie, right? I mean, it's basically every single guy from the time that she took her stepfather away from her mother, she's, she's taken guys away from somebody else, right? So she takes her stepfather away from her mother,
Starting point is 01:08:10 hooks up with him, she takes away. That I didn't know. You're dropping bombs. She took her stepfather away from her mother and was with him romantically? Oh, yeah. She slept with him. And then she... Billy Bob, she took away from... Laura Dern. But it gets Timothy Hutton.
Starting point is 01:08:28 She took away from whoever, I forget who Timothy Hutton was with at the time. And people forget that she's got a Timothy Hutton tattoo. I mean, that was, you know, the love of her life. And she took him away from a woman. And then she took Billy Bob away. She took Brad Pitt away. You know, it just goes on. and on every single, you know, relationship that she's had, when she's had relationships with
Starting point is 01:08:49 women, she's taking them away from other women. It's just, she is just. Can you in any way, and I don't know if you can, because I'm sure it's like top secret, but do you get these leads? Like, are you going out and reporting? Like, how are you getting this intel? Well, Angelina's pretty buttoned up. It's really kind of tough to get stuff about her necessarily, but you can get stuff from the other side, maybe like Brad, or how he enjoys, I mean, he's got a thing right now for UK reality stars, blonde UK reality stars. So, um, that's kind of his thing. And, you know, you'll hear stuff more than you will from hers. She, she locks down. And you say you'll hear stuff. You say you'll hear stuff. Like you're get, you get, you, I mean, no, obviously you're not
Starting point is 01:09:38 revealing your sources, but you just have sources and they come to you and you validate. Tell me just a little bit about that process. Like, do you leave them as blinds just for people to guess? Is there a reason they're blinds at the beginning and not revealed right away? Yeah, I mean, I will generally, well, I never reveal anybody if it's going to out somebody. So that's number one. Number two is there are, you know, I'll probably do 14 or 15 blinds a day. And a lot of them are totally innocuous or they're just, you know, they're more of a crossword
Starting point is 01:10:05 puzzle, try to kind of clue. I mean, there's a little bit of gossip in there, which is nice. And then I generally will reveal those about a week later. However, but there's some that I'm waiting for an event to happen, so maybe it'll take two or three weeks. And then I generally write one big, juicy kind of blind day. And those, for the most part, I will reveal either on January 1st for the prior six months or July 4th for the prior six months. And then- Oh, wow. That's a long wait. Yeah. Well, I mean, they're huge, you know. And so on January 1st, there'll be, you know, it's basically 10 hours straight of,
Starting point is 01:10:41 reveals. So one every 15 minutes. So it'll generally be 40 or 50 of these big ones and the same on the 4th of July. And then on Black Friday, anyone that I did not get to in the previous six months or anything throughout the history of the site that's really, really big. Then I generally do about 20 or 30 of those on Black Friday. So. Oh, wow. Are there any things that you reveal right away and you just like are like this happened or are they always a blind to begin with? I mean, I used to just write, would write gossip. And then people were like, well, we'd like the blind. So last week when I wrote about, I was two days ahead of the Anna Camp Skyler-Aston divorce, you know, I wrote it and I said, in fact, I made an extra post that day because I thought the news was maybe going to come out later
Starting point is 01:11:25 that day. And it didn't come out for, I think, a day and a half or something after I wrote it. You know, so that I didn't make people wait a week. I just did it a day and a half later. I'm trying to remember. Because like you kind of like, that's your thing to get it before the news source. say it. So, like, you want to be ahead of the, of them. Correct. I'm assuming, yeah. So I like to be ahead of them, but I don't necessarily need to, to reveal, like, People Magazine, quote unquote, broke the story about, you know, Skylar and Anna divorcing.
Starting point is 01:11:54 And everybody's like, no, you didn't really because, you know, Auntie had it two days ago. But. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people kind of do that on Twitter, which is cool, right? You have, like, this, like, army of Enties being like, well, Entie revealed it first, Right? Yeah. You know, and that's cool. That's nice. Yeah, it is. And it just, and I don't usually respond too much. What I care about is if somebody say, like us weekly says, oh, exclusive, this happened and I'll go, okay. And I don't remember exactly what it was, but I mean, I had revealed it a month earlier and it wasn't just me. There was, oh, I know what it was. It was one of the, some guy who wrote a book about the John Bonnet Ramsey case or something like that, um, he, He got arrested for pedophilia, child porn, or something like that. And I had written a blind about him being arrested, and then I revealed it. And there's a website called WebSloose or whatever that had done a bunch of information.
Starting point is 01:12:54 And then two or three months later, and it might have been radar or not us. So I apologize. Maybe it was radar. And they go, exclusive. So-and-so was arrested. And everybody's like, okay, hold on. How can this be exclusive? And why are you guys saying that you're the first reporter when literally it's been out for three months?
Starting point is 01:13:08 And, you know, that's the kind of thing that where I will actually make a comment is because I just, I find that really annoying. And I find it just tasteful. But there's nothing like legal you can do about it or anything. I'm like, yeah. I don't care. And legality in terms of your stuff, like you've never encountered anything where people come to you and they're like, how dare you or I'm going to sue you or something like that if you reveal shit about them? No, I mean, I get angry emails all the time. But I actually, I take that back.
Starting point is 01:13:40 I used to get a lot more. And then publicist finally just said, you know, we're not going to change his mind. He's not like People magazine where he doesn't care about access. And I don't. You know, unlike you, I'm not going to ever get invited to a Bravo day. I'm not, I'm not, about 10 years ago, I stopped getting invited to premieres or any press event days or anything like that. And, you know, I don't really care because I'm not in it for the access. I can go see celebrities all I want and I can, you know, do that.
Starting point is 01:14:09 I don't need access. I don't need to take a selfie and say, oh, my gosh, Brett, it's my best friend. You know, when he's not, he's just doing an interview because it's part of his job. So, you know, and I just, I don't need that kind of validation in my life where I need to take a picture with somebody to make myself feel that. I don't. I'm just kidding. That's okay. No, I mean, I get it.
Starting point is 01:14:31 You're doing your thing and you have your website and your podcast and. your Instagram and, I mean, your household name, Auntie. And listen, I could keep talking to you for 17 hours because, like, I just feel like we didn't even get to the tip of, like, everything you do. So we'll definitely have to do this again. That would be great. But tell people that are listening, like, where they can find you and, like, follow you and get all the, all the juicy tweets.
Starting point is 01:14:59 Crazy Days and Nights.net, seven days a week, every single day, 365 days a year, even on Christmas I post, and then at NT Lawyer for Instagram and Twitter, and then patreon.com back slash NTLoyer for the podcast. Amazing. Thank you so much for doing this. I'm literally my joy to pick it off the table like three times. Thank you, man. When you just got things like non-Gilondly, I was like, wait, what? So thank you guys. As for listening, I hope you enjoyed this episode with NT Lawyer. I've been Amanda from Not Skinny, but Not Fat. There will be a new episode every Tuesday, as you probably know.
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