Not Skinny But Not Fat - #FreeBritney Deep Dive With Anthony Lario

Episode Date: June 11, 2019

Britney die hard and radio personality Anthony Lario joins NSBF to take us down the free Britney black hole and give us all the tea we’re too lazy to explore ourselves. Amanda and Anthony dish about the current season of RHONY, the birth of Psalm ( the “interesting” name choice) and so much more in a funny & witty banter session you don’t want to miss out on.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Not Skinny but Not Fat and I'm your host, Amanda, here to bring you the latest in all pop culture news, celebrity gossip, anything happening right now in Hollywood that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. Hey guys, welcome to another week of the Not Skinny but Not Fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda, from the Not Skinny but Not Fat Instagram account here for another week. of our podcast where we talk about celebrity gossip, reality TV, and anything happening in Hollywood, et cetera, et cetera. I want to thank the Podglomerate Network for producing this show. And thank you guys for tuning in. And thank my guest today, Anthony Lario. He has a podcast

called Tony's Tea Corner. Also talks about celebrity gossip, reality TV, all the things we know and love you guys. Anthony is a really great guy. I had a super good vibe with him when I was a guest on his show a few months ago. And I just think he is really, really fabulous. I just wanted everyone to know, you know, we haven't met in person, but we did do this before. And I have this thing also that I believe in. And when I think something positive about someone I share it with them and now also with whoever is listening because I think it's important for you to know to know that I thought that but also I want to use and abuse you now that turns me on yes because I know that you love Brittany oh my love for Britney it's not

even the thing like when people say you know oh you're Brittany fan I'm like no no you don't get it it's not even like a Britney fan it's like I know her I am her I'm I talk to her every day. I pray to her in the morning. I pray to her at night. I feel like I know what her perfume smells like. No stop. Her 72 branded scents.

I'm into it. I would pay any type of money to see her out there on stage and any type of corset, lip-syncing her ass off because she has invented the art of iconography. I'm telling you that right now. When you think of an icon, who do you think of? Some people think, you know, share, Madonna, whatever, I think Britney. You think Britney. I mean, I'm a Brittany fan. I don't, I'm not going to compare myself to you. But I did, I think we talked about this last time. Like, I went to her concert in New York last year for my 30th birthday. I'm so lame. Actually, my little sister got me, bought the tickets. It were so expensive because it was like a small show was at Radio City. Oh, amazing. And I love that, that it's small, you know. And obviously I knew she wasn't going to like be singing live. Like, you know. No, you knew it.

You know what to expect. You know what to expect. And I had so much fun because it's not about that. You know, it's about the music and I was dancing. And I know all the moves, which, like, I'm sure, like, I could beat you at the choreography. Like, I know. You could beat me. I know Dream Within a Dreamt tour, like a by heart every single dance.

Oh, you're a diehard. You're a diehard. I'm a diehard. I believe you. But I'm not caught up. So I didn't go down the freaking. black hole of the free Brittany hashtag because it was just I'm not into like conspiracy theories as much you know because like I have so much to keep up with like of things that are actually going on

and that are actually confirmed that like I can be going I can't don't have time so I know that you know some stuff and I just need an update about like what's going on with our queen yeah I mean here's the thing when free Britney um it's it's funny because you and I had just recorded a show before the free Britney hashtag thing came out. Right. We had just gotten done talking about Brittany and you know what had happened with her, you know, being checked into a mental health facility.

Right. It was that day, Anthony. It was that day, yeah. And then I think a couple days later, Free Britney came out. And, you know, everybody's talking about Free Britney and, you know, some people were skeptical about it. And part of me was skeptical. But I did think some of the things made sense.

Because as a Britney fan, you're kind of like always going between this fine line of like, oh, well, this is just Britney now. You know, she just kind of performs like this now or, you know, she's not like she used to be, but we love it and we accept it. And then the whole idea that maybe the reason that she's performing like this is because she's being forced to take tranquilizers before she goes out on stage. That's what they're saying? That, yes, that freaks me out. Why would they force her? well so under this conservatorship she has to take any medication that her father gives her can you say that i feel like i can't say that word conservatorship conservatorship yeah or he's the conservator of her will and estate

okay so so the the free brittany thing okay so it's her dad is like this evil mastermind behind this so i don't know if necessarily he's an evil mastermind but this is what what happened so back in two 2007 when she had a breakdown, which by the way, you and I have talked about, we don't really know exactly what happened. Everything out there, everything with the Kardashians is out there, everything with the housewives is out there with even people like, you know, like some other iconic celebrities, Madonna, Cher, you know, Justin Timberlake, everybody, we know what's going

on with them. We know what's going on. We never really found out what happened. We didn't know if it was alcohol. We didn't know if it was drugs. We just know that it was like psychotic break. So her father became the conservator of her will in a state, which meant that he and a team of a couple of people had power of attorney over her in any single capacity. So he is her guardian again.

Right. And that I know because like she wasn't sound enough to be making her own decisions. And that was like supposedly a positive thing and also a way for her to get to not lose custody of her children. Of her children. Yes. She had to sign over the conservator to her father or she would. have gotten her children taken away, or not taken away, the custody would have been a bigger issue. Right. So it was supposed to end in 2009, okay? We don't know what happened in 2009,

but it didn't end. And there was a phone call that was released from 2009 of her whispering in what sounds like a room where she's scared that somebody's going to hear her. And she is calling, basically saying, I want to get out of this conservatorship. It was supposed to be over. Oh, I heard that. I heard that. Yeah, and she's basically saying, my father is threatening that if I try to get out of the conservatorship, then they're going to take my babies. Yes. I just said goosebumps. Yeah, me too. It's crazy.

When I heard that voicemail, I was like, shit, this has validity to it. But are we sure it's real? And, like, who do you call to ask that question? So, so I don't know who she called. It was either a lawyer or it was a judge. I'm not positive of exactly who she called. So that was in 2009. it didn't happen. He still had

this over her and still does. Yes, he still has it over her. And so the hashtag was released because there's that podcast Britney's Graham. And I think basically they did some digging and they had a source call

in who was a paralegal on her case, who had access to records. And the records show that Brittany did not check into the facility in March. She actually was checked in in January. So people were like,

wait, why would she lie about that? Why were her team lie about that? Then, you know, people come to certain conclusions. Well, maybe it was because her father forced her in in January. And then people are wondering, wait, then who was making those Instagram posts in January and February if she was in the institution? So it's kind of this whole, you know, whirlwind

that you go down and it's nonstop. Was she performed? Like, when was her Vegas? thing. Her Vegas residency, I think, ended. When did you go see her at Radio City? My birth, so like, oh, I think it was July of last year. July of last year, that would make sense because that's when she was doing the leg of her tour that was at post residency. So then she had a residency planned again in Vegas called Domination. And then that was canceled and she made this Instagram post that said it was due to her father's health. Right.

Oh, and behold, we find out she was checked into a mental facility. But our father's health is a real thing. We don't know. We haven't heard anything about it. We haven't heard anything about it. And as of right now, we did see her check out looking fucking frazzled again. I mean, today she's looking better, but the post of when she was first seen... They were bad.

It was bad. And then I think there was, like, pictures from court and she was bare foot. The bare feet. There was not a good look. It was not a good look. If she wants to win this, she can't do that. She can't be barefoot. I'm like, can't be barefoot.

No, no, she can't. And like, I just like wonder, well, well, I put up a picture of her maybe yesterday and she was wearing like obviously her low-rise jeans that no one wears since 1999. But her hair was at least looking better because I know it sounds superficial. But if you are Britney Spears, you can get your hair dead by God if you wanted to. People are saying Amanda, though, she might not have access to this money. She doesn't have access to her own money, which is fucking crazy. But it makes sense.

If she is sick, if she is sick, then this conservatorship makes sense. Now, my dad, who is an estate attorney, who has frequently fought these types of cases for people in abuse of conservatorships. my dad said that his argument would be if she is under this conservatorship because she is not well enough to provide for her family. Okay? Which is what sounds like

the rules of the conservatorship are, then why is she being forced to perform? She should not be performing. Do you think, so you believe the rumors that? So, okay, so to conclude, you know, I'm sure there's so much more information, but basically this conservator... I'm sorry, can I blame it? I'm being like half Israeli. I just sometimes

conservatorship. Yeah. Conservatorship. Um, so by her dad. So he, I mean, so there's a team probably also behind her dad. Basically, they're not letting her out of this. She can't make her own decision. She doesn't have access to her own money. She's being forced to perform. And then also they're saying she's given tranquilizer. Why would they do that part? So these tranquilizer things are really heavy. antidepressant anxiety pills. So apparently, and here's some other conspiracy theories, but they're kind of, here's what is making me think that it's true. And believe me, I think that there is some validity that Britney has proven herself because

the judge did grant a full evaluation of her, of this whole thing, the whole evaluation of the conservatorship. That was the first time that she showed up to her own conservatorship hearing in years. And she came with her mother. The last one? Yes. So it's not all rumors because that part is true. She is trying to get out of it.

She's trying to get out of it. So that we know for sure. Let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. So Free Brittany is a thing technically because she does want to be. she does want to be freed um but you know that there's this thing that happened um you'll love this um so there was this period of time in 2017 what buzzfeed was putting out articles and they're like wait is 2002 brittney back because she was going full out in her shows going full out just like dancing

and she even stopped the show to do a live rendition of giving something to talk about by bonnie rate and like she sang it full live whatever so people are like wait is brittany back she's singing live she's fucking dancing then out of nowhere her next two weeks of shows were canceled so part of me is now thinking and some conspiracists are thinking she probably went off her medicine okay she wasn't taking the tranquilizers and she was just performing to the best of her ability and then her family found out her father found out her managers put her back of the medications, let those two weeks sink in, then she went back to her shows as Zombie Brittany.

Oh, Zombie Brittany. You're making my heart ache because at the end of the day, like I said, like I accept her and I went to her show and paid lots of money to see her basically as Zombie Brittany and with like her music playing out of like, you know, not live, obviously. And it was worth it for me. But at the same time, I mean, the amount of days and nights that I spent thinking

about how does one, lose their ability to dance when they once were phenomenal. They don't. I mean, there's a bunch of rumors about this knee injury. This, this, um, no, no, no, there's these, no, there's these murky rumors that, so some people say that it was on the overprotected music video set, that she heard her knee there and she's never been able to dance the same.

But babe, it's not about the knee. I know, it's the arms, it's the everything. It's not the knee. And she has said, you know, I love performing. I don't know if I believe that she does anymore. I don't know if I know. I mean, because we talked about this,

I think, right? She doesn't like people. She doesn't like people. She like doesn't. I mean, if you have high anxiety like that and basically, another word that's going to be hard for me to say like agoraphobia.

Is it agoraphobia? Yeah, agoraphobia. You're not a person that likes, like I don't even like going to like big, big stadiums and stuff like that. I don't like a lot of people. Obviously, I'm not, like, I do it.

But I'm just saying, like, there's no way she has, you know, major anxiety and, like, issues. And she loves being on stage with a gazillion people. Like, no, I don't believe it. And it's just so sad because, I mean, Brittany and who she was and the performer she was and the dancer she was. I mean, you know, Wade Robson, who choreographed all her shit, she had swag, she had groove.

Her movements now, it's not me. it's jerky, it's tight, it's, you know, even, so, I mean, a few days ago she posted that video of her, I don't know if to call it dancing. It looked like it hurt, didn't it, Amanda? And she was like burned because she gets like really tan or something. And so what did you think about that? Because aside from the thrashing, it also was noticed by people that she did a similar, I mean, she was wearing the same thing in a video from March.

Okay, I don't know if I believe that she's posting these. Do you? You don't know if you believe that she, like, handles her own Instagram. No, I don't know if I believe it. So whoever does, it sucks because it's the worst Instagram. Probably people like her dad, like Southern straight white men who are like, yeah, throw that up of Brit to make people stop working. She looks good. She's dancing.

And you're like, um... She looks good. She's... Yeah. I don't know. then those people are the people that are also like taking videos of her modeling different outfits around her house what about the tiny furniture what do you think about that what's that oh Amanda you got to look back at her post there's tiny furniture everywhere it's okay so you know like

your couch um like you put your couch to like a vaporizer and now it's tiny like it looks like tiny furniture from a dollhouse. So she has like a room like that? Everywhere. I need to look at it up. Look at Google Britney tiny furniture. It's everywhere all over her house. It's like you look at her nightstand,

tiny nightstand, tiny lamp. You look at everything in her, tiny kitchen chairs, tiny counter, tiny little table. It's like she's living in a doll house. Stop. What does that mean? It's just very scary. It's very freaky.

Let me look it up right now. Brittany tiny furniture. Yep, it comes up right away. Yep, look at the tiny couch. Do you see it? What is it? Oh my God, I feel bad. And I really think, it's almost like there's just like putting her there and they're like,

Oh my God, it's here. It's like in her- It's like a doll house. No. She lives life as a doll. That's so sad, babe. I know I'm laughing, but I mean. I think Brittany all along has been sending us little messages.

the tiny furniture, okay? And all of her old captions, if you look back, she always puts this flower in a key, set me free. With her filters, this isn't me, this isn't my real voice, let me use my real voice. She's been figuring ways to tell us. That's like super conspiracy. And I think that Brittany wants,

I really do think, though, that she's been trying to tell us things for a while. I think that, I mean, I'm all goosebumps because whether or not she's, doing that at the end of the day like we lost her a while ago you know like we just lost her and it's a loss because she was still there somewhere Amanda I think I think she's still there I hope so I mean she's still young too like she's still young 30s it is something happened to her and we don't know what happened that's the thing like that's the thing I can't let go of like you said at the end of day shit in Hebrew there's a saying shit floats is you're saying like that in english let's just say it shit floats shouldn't it sound good the shit will float that's what you know yeah ship

does it float though I don't think shit floats at the end of the day it'll float and with brittney like you said like we have rumors about 2007 like I've been starting to hear about like that she was diagnosed with, like, AIDS or something? Did you hear that? Oh, you didn't hear that? She was diagnosed with AIDS? No. So that's what a lot of the rumors are about her breakdown

was that she broke down after being diagnosed with HIV. But we're in 2019. Like, we have treatments for that. You can become undetectable. Right, but no, I'm talking about, like, her, that we don't know about why she broke down in 2007. Okay. Do you want to know, I'll keep it short and sweet.

Under 30 seconds, this is what I think happened, okay? Yeah. Okay, so she breaks out with Justin Timberlake. She cheated on him. I don't think she ever did something that horrible in her life, and I think that she really realized that she had lost the best thing that she had ever known, ever, okay? She never knew what it was like to be a normal kid, all right?

More so than any other child stars these days claim to be. Like, you got Billy Eilish being like, ah, on the cover of Vanity Fair, being like, I'm a child star, I don't know it. it's like to be real okay no brittney did it first okay and i think that this breakup was too much for her to handle she she got really upset she went and married her childhood um boyfriend after that her parents kept close watch on her she's like what am i going to do to win my life like overprotected stage i want my life back she goes and marries kevin fetterline because he's got a big dick and all this

stuff and then they break up she starts getting the paparazzi guy she is in too deep she can't handle it shaves her head she's done complete psychotic breakdown i think it might be as simple as that as simple as just like i mean listen i know a lot of people that after bad breakups lose their shit yes so obviously once you're when you're brittany spears it's on a very much of a larger scale but i've seen people you know my age younger than me older than me going through breakups and changing like either all this from being like you know a person that gets up and goes to work every morning to being a person that just wants to sit on the couch and smoke weed all day or you know even small things but in brittany world everything is more drastic so that's why like

i can buy that and i can also buy that in the mix of everything you said there were a lot of drugs which i think there were some drugs involved i think there were some drugs involved and probably later when she was diagnosed with whatever um prescription drugs which also can turn you into a freaking especially if you're on a crazy cocktail, which I'm sure she was and is. So, I mean, thank you for giving me that little breakdown. I'm still, I'm kind of happy that I had you come on and give me that little kind look into it because I think that just going down that black hole, like we said, it's just like too much. Like, I want to, I want her out of this conservatorship, which I can now say really

quickly. And I also want to know. You really said that. You really did that. I'm like, I know. I learn. I'm a learner. You really did that, girl. I'm telling you right now. Conservatorship. Conservatorship.

I mean, a lot of people couldn't say it. I was watching a lot of people trying to say it in like their Insta stories trying to talk about it. A lot of people can't say it. Oh, that's so funny. I, I mean, I just want to, I want normal Britney back. And, you know, if there's a world in which she gets her freedom and she can make her own decisions and maybe, her medications are modified so that she can be more of herself while being, you know, treated for her issues, then, I mean, that's, we can only dream.

Dream within a dream. Dream within a dream. And you know what else pisses me off, Amanda? I mean, we can segue into housewives a little bit here because I'm seeing all these people on like a bunch of pop culture groups. I'm in there like, we need Britney on the real housewives of Beverly Hills. Like, okay, no, shut up. Are you making that up to do a good transition?

no what who said that a lot of people said that online I'm not gonna be people in these groups that these pop culture groups then I'm in they're like no no you know what they say like no screenshot zone and also like don't talk about what you see in there so I don't even want to get anybody if anybody's listening but this is what a bunch of people say in these groups that's so crazy so a transition B never are you crazy just because like Denise Richards did it doesn't mean like let's not compare yeah don't even try to ever put brittany and denise richards on the same level what okay but really with

housewives so the real real on the real housewives as you know i you know because i'm i shouldn't be like this but i really like um only new york and new jersey just because i'm like probably from new york and also because i mean i just need to i need to have you know just like preference is because I can't, I don't have time for all of them, but I'm usually obsessed with New York and really want to get your feelings on this season, which, um, that's it. I'm not going to say anymore. Your thoughts on this season. So here's the thing about this season. I think I talked to you about it before on mine. And I was saying, I think it's a little bit boring. But here's the thing about the New York ladies. They always deliver. No, Anthony. What? No. You don't

believe it? What was delivered? What happened this season? Oh, I think that they always deliver. I think that they are just funny. I think that they are funny. They scream at each other. They fight. They make up. I think that it reminds me of old school housewives.

So I was saying that I thought this season was boring. And I think that in the grand scheme of other seasons, it's more boring, but it's a different kind of season. It's more funny. It's definitely a different kind of season. And I actually heard that, and this is a reason, probably a reason why. it's boring is that Bethany took kind of a step back this season because I think what I've heard is

you know she was so prominent in last season with like the fight with Carol and like all that shit that I think this season she was sort of like listen I'm saying this one out but babe the major themes we have going on in this season are like okay Luann feeling holier than now because she's like cabareting typically being 45 and like crying about wanting a baby which like A is like I is fucked up for all these women who have

children to be like Tinsley like stop crying about it like they don't know what that's like no they don't know what it's like what do you think about the idea of um letting one of the OGs go what like who would you think well if we either get rid of Bethany um Luanne or Ramona get rid of one of them and bring in new blood because Here's what, here's what, no, no, definitely new blood. New blood is needed. We need like a cuckoo, cuckoo, Kelly, Ben-Simon, or like, we need a cuckaroo. Okay, but here's what, what I think holds a lot of these Bravo shows hostage.

They don't allow for new people to really come in and make their stance and be themselves. And this didn't always happen. I mean, if you think about some of the best housewives, they're people who were new people. They're not OGs. Like, yeah, I don't really like. like Tamara from Orange County, but Tamara came in season three. Dorinda didn't come in until season six. Like, you have people that come in late.

But what happens is that when there's somebody new, you have OGs like Ramona, and you have OGs on Beverly Hills, like Kyle and Lisa Vanderpump, who they, or on Orange County, like Vicki. They were, sorry, New Jersey, like Teresa. They don't like new people. And Bravo will listen to them because they, you know, have loyal. to them and if they want somebody gone they're gone okay and and it's because you know teresa will refuse to film if that if that person's there and she doesn't want to film with them they're gone

that's why we never saw kathie walkely again we never saw rosy again we never saw jacquine again she doesn't want to film with them they're not coming back oh jaclin i love Jacqueline i love Jacqueline too and it can be said with a lot of the ojee she went a little too cuckaroo at the end but she she i liked her too and I think that in some of these shows like on Beverly Hills right now with Doggate, they can't say certain things because they don't break the fourth wall. Like they can never talk about being on the housewives.

Right. That's so funny. I'm not going to say it now. Actually, this comes out. This comes out, let me do the map. This comes out after. Okay, so I, the last episode that aired was with Katie Maloney Schwartz from Vanderbomberles.

Okay. She was on not skinny but not fat Oh she was amazing. Oh my God. I know. I love her. And it's amazing for me because like I'm, you know, I'm a VPR ambassador and it's like my life right now. But I was actually talking to her about that. And I was just like, you know, we were talking about certain characters on the show and I was like, they're just fucking thirsty. And she was like, yeah.

And I was like, don't you just feel like screaming? You're doing this because you want to be on the fucking show. And she's like all the time. And I'm like, and you don't say that? I feel like that's all I would do. Like, if I was on that show, I'd be like, you're trying to be on the show and you're trying to be on the show and you're trying to be on the show.

And she goes, well, I can't say that when there are cameras there. Like, you can't talk about the camera. You can't break the fourth wall. And I think that they should because there's so much that gets cut out. You really think I'm this stupid that like you're on the real housewives of Beverly Hills and you're not going to talk to me about being on the housewives. Like, you're not going to say, oh, Lisa has been selling. stories to the press about the housewives forever.

You're going to say, oh, John Blizzard did this, quote, unquote, behind the scenes. Like, just fucking say it. It feels inauthentic. I feel like when I watch it, I just want to fucking strangle them because I'm like, oh, I know how inauthentic you're fucking beat. Really? And it pisses me off. Can you tell me who you think is inauthentic on the show?

On VPR? Yeah. Oh, Brittany, um, Jacks, um, La La. I can't see. Brittany is inauthentic. Well, here's the whole, did you watch the reunion recently? No. Well, they're all going at Raquel.

And here's the thing. Of course Raquel wants to be on the show. Of course she does, but you know who wanted to be on the show first? You're right. Brittany and and Jacks and everybody. So let the natural order of things happen. There's going to be new blood. Do you think Brittany didn't break up with Jax because she wanted to stay on the show?

Partially yes. Partially yes. I mean, I think not just the show, but the opportunities that can arise from the show. I just want to say something because obviously everyone's thirsty. I'm thirsty. You're thirsty. I'm so thirsty. I'm parched.

What I'm saying is like, obviously, but obviously there are also ways to like not look thirsty or like not be. So if you're the OGs, like we were saying, so if you're Katie Stasi, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. They didn't look thirsty because it was like they were brought on the show. their lives were being filmed, say too, okay? If you're Billy Lee and all of a sudden you're like hosting and you're like creating drama out of thin air, not like real stuff that happened, like thin air, then like you're obviously trying to be on the show.

Yes, I guess you're right. I guess point well taken. But that also makes... And like you're right too. I think it's not nice to, you know, come, like they say, come at Raquel. for wanting to be on the show. Obviously she does. She's like, you know, not getting so much love. Like, she doesn't have a gazillion followers on Instagram. Her boyfriend is like half hated by everyone.

Like, obviously she wants in on it. And I think when you're desperado and it doesn't, so Lala came in and, you know, there's something about Lala, right? She has charisma. She has. Yeah, she's very charismatic. You're right. She's made for TV. She's made for TV. So obviously, like, lover, hater. She's going to. She's going to be on the show. Like, she wasn't even having sex with anyone, really. Like, if you think about it, like, all of her major shit was, like, behind the scenes, as they say. Like, yes.

But what I'm saying is, you either have it or you don't have it. And, like, Raquel, so for people that don't have it and they're not going to come on the show and, you know, win people over. And then they try really hard to, then that just seems desperado. You know what I mean? You're right. You're right. I guess for me, the hypocrisy annoys me. me and the fact that, like, for example, Brittany, like, she's yelling at Raquel during this reunion,

and I won't give too many spoilers, but the way that she's screaming at her about James Kennedy, about DJ James Kennedy, and I'm like, Brit, do you not think that maybe your boyfriend cheated more times than you think? Like, why are you trying to preach to this role about a relationship? Oh, no, babe. Yeah, yeah. What do you mean? When, you know, Lala and all of those people came up to Raquel and told Raquel James is cheating on her, then like all of those girls have been cheated on.

Yes, yes, 100%. In the hypocrisy way, yes, there's so much hypocrisy that goes on on the show. A hundred percent. What I love about it so much is that, you know, in contrast to like keeping up with the Kardashians, they have so much drama that they'll start a. season with like someone cheating. They don't wait until the finale. Right.

Yeah. They don't wait until the last act. And with housewives, if we go back to errone, which we're talking about, I need something to happen. So your point of view is actually more popular than mine. I think most people that I talk to about real houses of New York will say, whatever those girls do, like they're hilarious and I can watch them all day or day. Oh, Amanda, with the brides thing was so funny with the, when they're, I mean, it was horrible.

the Sexual Assault Victims Awareness Foundation and, you know, Bridie was talking about it. And just like that is, I would send that clip. I sent that clip actually in a mass email to a bunch of people that I've worked with. Which one when Ramona, Duranda cuts Ramona off? Yes, yes. And they're all just going back and forth. And Sonia's going clip, like copying Dorinda and they're, you know, they're all, they're calling her birdie. And I'm like, if you guys don't watch Housewives, this is why you have to watch it.

Like, you can't write this. You couldn't write that comedic timing there. It was, I was peeing myself. It was so funny. I see what you're saying, babe. And, like, as a certified bravaholic, I really want to, like, agree with you. Clip, I mean, play. Clip, Serf, I know you talked about that on one of your episodes.

Was that the best? Did you meet Darren? I saw her. I didn't actually get to talk to her. You work with her? Hold on. I'm going to sneeze. Oh, my God.

This is a real moment. Bless you. Oh, it didn't ruin it for you. Usually when people say, bless you, it ruins it for me. Oh, you can't sneeze anymore. No. No, no, no. Don't have that.

Okay, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back. Speaking of Billy Eilish, by the way, I just wanted to say that I love her, but she was at Kanye's church yesterday. Isn't that weird? Oh, it's a cold. I think we might have talked about this. This is why I think it's a cult. Something weird is happening. No, Billy Eilish is too cool for Kanye's church, isn't she? Here's the thing. I think Billy Eilish is cool, but she's what my brother would call an industry plant. They plant her there for a reason. She has no saying anything. I think she was planted.

Babe, but I saw a thing about her and she, like, didn't go to school ever. Her name is like Billy Elish, pirate beard, like something, something. Her parents are like hippies. She like wrote songs before she could like, you know, I don't know. But still she's a plant. Like I think she's talented, but I think she's a plant. Like I think that they, they, you know, they see that value in her. They see that she's weird. She's cool. So they're like, oh, okay, guess what? We're going to put you, like, on the top of the charts and, like, let's promote the shit out of you. You're so, like, into conspiracies today. It's, like, too much for me. No, no, it's not a conspiracy. It's the truth. Brittany was an industry plant. Yeah, but that makes more sense.

Billy Eilish is, like, you know, more, like, rugged. I don't know. I know she's rugged, but we know her. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, everybody knows Billy Eilish. Yeah, right. She's not, like, like, underground, like, no, right. She's not like, yeah, that's how, like, I felt cool that I was, like, into her music, but then I was, like, literally, she's, like, top 100 still. mainstream but like not really mainstream right which is why it's weird because it's kind of like you wouldn't think she looks like um like a british singer that like only your cool friends know about but then she's like not and also she's like in love with Justin Bieber and going to Kanye's easy church yeah um yeah i mean she she's got a lot going for her i will say that i think that um

She did a van... It was either variety or vanity fair. They didn't interview with her last year. And then they showed her the interview one year later and she had to react to it. I think she was a little bit embarrassed. That is weird. I could see that.

Well, I want to look that up, A, and be like... I could see that. I did like... She had a quote... She didn't add for Mike Calvin's, and obviously she wasn't in her underwear, like a model. And I kind of liked her explanation of it,

which was that she, you know, know, she was explaining why she always wears a bag of clothes and she's like, I don't want my body to be talked about and I don't want anyone to be able to say if I'm fat or skinny or like, I like that too. Isn't that? That's kind of cool because, I mean, you know what? I'm in the first to admit, I was dying to know what her body looks like. Yeah.

Yeah. And, you know, it's kind of crazy because, you know, you think about it. We were talking about Brittany earlier and Christina Aguilera. They all became famous when they were like 15, 16. Right. Now, now people don't really become famous that early. more. So it's kind of cool because we haven't had a sensation like this in a long time. She's changing and a changing, but I was just, I thought it was shocking when I all of a sudden

saw, and it kind of upset me too because her, her Instagram handle used to be Where are the avocados? And I thought that was so cool. And now she changed it to Billy Eilish. Oh, see, I only knew her as Where Are the Avocados. Oh, that's stupid. Yeah. And I thought that was kind of cool that you like, you know, everybody, every celebrity just kind of has their name or like, even some celebrities have their first name. I still don't understand how Brittany Cartwright just says the Instagram

handle Britney. I don't get how that happened. I feel like you don't like Britney. I don't really like her. Like, I think Raquel is annoying, but she's authentically annoying. I mean, I was kind of, if I had to say something good about Raquel, I'd say that good for her because she looks like so fragile,

but she was able to stand up for herself in situations where I don't think I would be able to. Yeah, I mean, I totally agree. I mean, who wants to get in a conversation with Stasi? Like, I wouldn't. No. I have a bigger mouth than Raquel. You know what I mean?

Stasi, you kind of look like Stasi. Really? I think I, I get told so many things. I got told Billy. I mean, who were we just talking about Billy Elish? I got told that. Stasi got told that. You look like I'm into Cyphre, too. I get a man to Cyphre too. I get a lot of shit. You get a man that's safe. I can see that a lot.

Some things I obviously take as a compliment, and some I'm like, can I just look like me? You're like, why can't I just be myself? Okay, but listen, we're talking about the Kardashians, and I need to, before we go, to talk about the newest addition to the Kardashian West household. Salam. Dallas. Stop. That's it. We're done.

Okay. Do you really want to know? Wait, you're Christian. I am, yes. Can you tell me how it said? Psalm, you're right. I was right. So the P is silent and the L is silent.

Psalm, the L is not really that silent. It's kind of like the same thing in calm. I see. It's like calm. It's funny. Someone on DM me like, like, it's like Sam, but with the British accent. So, oh my God, that's so fucking. They're right.

But then I had British, some of my British followers were like, we don't say Sam. like that. I'm like, so what do you say Sam like? Sam? They say Sam probably. Oh, true, true, true. So what do you think? I mean, to me, it was so funny just because it's like, I'm so into, like, I'm being Kim Kardashian. I'm so into the Bible now. So like I'm just going to name my baby Psalm. You know what I mean? Amanda, I didn't even think of that. I didn't even put together the church thing. What? Yeah. I just kind of thought. It's like me being like into clothes and naming my kid Zara like it's like it's just funny well i might be oh my god that's funny i might name my kid

zara i mean that's not a bad name actually here's here's something that i'm now realizing and i'm this is all just kind of coming into my head i think psalm in the catholic church or christian church actually means song like a song that you sing so i could be wrong but i'm pretty sure like you think I'm wrong? Let me look it up. Yeah, because Psalm, I know, I don't even want to say this because I wrote like some kind of testament and people were like, no, it's from the Old Testament and I wrote New Testament. I don't want to get in trouble with like

God things because I don't know. But it's from like, I think in Hebrew Psalm is like the Bible or like super super duper religious and just has to do with like their love right now for church and God and Bible. And it's like naming their kid Bible right now. Well, okay, here's what I looked up. Psalm and Psalm 45 means a song of praise. So I think that's what I'm talking about because in church we sing the Psalms.

Right, but there's so many Psalms. I mean, Bachelor people put up Psalms every day. Has their Instagram bio, yes. I mean, every bachelor person has a Psalm. That's the only reason I know the word. I mean, I swear on my life. Yeah. I mean, here's the thing.

it could have been worse the name. Here, Cassie Randolph, her bio, is Psalm 4610. So she's just telling us the sum of her choice. It could have been worse, though, Amanda. It couldn't have been, it could have been worse. I mean, listen, I thought it would be Rob. I was, like, really expecting something very straightforward. And, I mean, it's just, I mean, I started to think about baby names when I was a baby,

just because, like, you want to be sure that you're, like, getting something cool but not like overtrying and not like too weird and not and they just like don't care that it's like people are going to think it's ridiculous yeah yeah it's like north and saint sound super norms i i think that it could have been worse and i think that they're famous enough that this name doesn't matter it could have been anything i could have said that the name was zara or h and m like you said and and people would have this i feel like it was just kind of a moderate reaction Don't you think? People were like, they're going to name him, like, Wild West.

And I'm like, they're better than that. Like, they did that once. They're not going to do it twice, you know, the play on words with the West. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I honestly wouldn't have put it past him to name them Jesus, to name the kid Jesus. Right. Like Jesus. Yeah.

I mean, I would not have put that past them. Because they're so, they're so unbelievably narcissistic that you have to just let them do it. I mean, I won't for, I mean, I think it was this season. And, you know, that you just, the fact that you see more of Kanye, so you get to really see, like, him being a narcissist, him being a narcissist, and together they're just like, you know. Oh, they are the, it's like, you know, I always say this. I mean, this is super random, but it has to do with Kanye.

You know, people are always like, pick a side, Taylor Swift or Kanye West, like, which side were you on? And I'm like, listen, I'm on both their sides. And you know what? I think that they are both the same exact people. And then I say that to people, they're like, Interesting. Wait, because you think T. Swift is a nurse?

Oh my God, both of them. Kanye West and Taylor Swift are both exactly the same, just different executions. It's making sense to me now because I'm thinking like, I was kind of hating with all of her, like, album, pre-album promos just because it's like, I mean, I like her music, but I'm not like a T. Swift, like, mega fan. So for me, like the whole Easter egg thing is super weird. Like, why do I care about Easter eggs? It's for her fans. It's like for her die-hards, which I am a pretty die-hard, too. I'm a pretty die-hard, Taylor fan.

And something that I do get annoyed by with Taylor. And I'm sure she knows this, because she's very smart, is that I feel like she caters to a lot of her younger fans, rather than me, specifically me, Anthony Lerio, who has been listening to her since I was in the seventh grade on the school bus. So, like, I want her to notice me because I can actually relate to her. her music. You know, like her song Clean, which is about, you know, like becoming sober of a relationship. Like, I can relate to that song. Little Molly Sue down in Tennessee, 11 years old, cleaning the chalkboards after school. She can't fucking relate to that. A new song, The Me E, it was, it was kind of like Disney Princess. It sounds like it's from the troll soundtrack, Amanda.

No, legit. But, but yeah, I can see what you're saying that the narcissist thing with T. Swift, which, like, she doesn't appear on the service to be that kind of person, but she, she probs is. Oh, yeah, they both are very similar, Taylor and Kanye. They both take pride in exactly what they write, how they sell their albums,

what they wear, what they're doing, and they're very aware of it. And then if... Oh, yeah, they're like aware. I would literally just be like, here's my song, but, you know, I wouldn't. And, like, especially if I had a good voice and I knew how to write music,

like, I don't think I would put so much effort into, like, everything surrounding it. No, they're very into the business aspect, which is cool. That's why they make money. That's true. Yeah. That's true. Anthony, thank you so much for spending the time with me today and chatting about all

things, Brittany and reality TV and just, I don't even know what other tangents we went off because I just enjoy talking to you so much. So before we go, just please tell everyone where they can find you, listen to you, hear you, see you. Oh, my God, of course. And thank you again, Amanda, for having me. I just love you. and we'll have to do one of these in New York together. We can do like a Tony's T and not skinny,

but not fat at the same time recording it together. I'll both put it out. That'll be fun. But you guys can find me on Instagram at Anthony Lario, A-N-T-H-O-N-Y, L-A-R-I-O. And if you go, if you have Sirius X-M, you can listen back to some reality-checked episodes with Amy Phillips, and you can find me there. And yeah, just, and you can, oh, fuck, the most important part.

You can listen to my podcast, Tony's Tea Corner, on Apple Podcasts. I know. Whenever I get to the self-romo part, I'm so bad at it, too. Yeah, Amanda, I added email into my self-promo part, and I did it one episode. And I was like, why did I fucking say email? Now I have to say it every episode. No, I can't. I'm like, oh, email me.

That's so funny, Anthony. Thank you guys for listening to another episode of the Not Skinny but Not Fat. podcast. And thanks to Anthony Lerio for chatting with us today. Thanks to my producer and editor from the Podglomerate Network and to BMC for the music. You guys, it would be super helpful

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