Not Skinny But Not Fat - Getting Real w/ Real Housewife of NJ Jackie

Episode Date: January 21, 2020

This season of RHONJ is freaking iconic. From hair pulling to crying at the dinner table with Nono, I’m living for the ladies outside of the city. Newest Jersey housewife, Jackie Goldschneider gets real on the pod and tells us what she thinks about Danielle leaving the show, what she would have done if she had pulled her hair, the beef between them we don’t even know about, and so much more.  This episode was brought to you by: Prose is the healthy hair regimen with your name all over it. Get a FREE consultation and 20% off your first order today! Go to prose.com/notskinny for a free consultation and 20% off. Collagen For Her is the first collagen powder created specifically for women. It dissolves instantly, doesn't clump up, and has no taste at all, so it's so easy to add to coffee, tea, or smoothies. Collagen For Her is woman-owned and was created to help women find supplements that they can trust and feel good about putting into their bodies. If you want to try it out, head to CollagenForHer.com and you can use the code "NOTSKINNY" to get 10% off your order!  Betterhelp is an online counseling platform for you. Listeners will receive 10% off their first month by heading to betterhelp.com/notskinny today. Get help on your own time and pace. The Not Skinny But Not Fat Podcast is produced by The Podglomerate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

So what did you think about the fact that she announced that she's leaving? I mean, like... Sianora? It was a classic, like, quick before you're fired, right? I mean, who wanted her back? This is not skinny but not fat. And I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps, and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about.

This is not skinny but not fat. So I've been obsessed with... with Real Houseways of New Jersey lately. Like, I've watched all seasons, but after be honest, these last few seasons have brought it to a new freaking level where, like, I get into fights with people

telling them that, uh, Roanj is better than Rooney, which like, I know this is a big statement to me, but lately the drama on Roanj has been just crazy. I love it. Today I have Jackie Goldt-Nighter, who's been in the last two seasons. She's been feisty. She's been real.

She was one of the only people not afraid to stand up to OG treat from the freaking beginning. She was there with the Danielle and Margaret physical altercation, which was so insane. My husband almost said he wants to start watching Roanj. So she was so lovely on this interview, you guys.

She is so excited to be part of Real Housing. of New Jersey. She's a real badass. So I hope you enjoy this interview with Jackie Goldschneider. Also, since this is a remote interview, it's not up to the standard of when, you know, interviews are in person. So I'm sorry if there are any like small technical difficulties. And that's it. I love you. Enjoy. So I'm so freaking excited. to have Jackie Gold-Tnyder from Real Housewives of New Jersey today on the podcast. What is up? Hi, everyone.

Hi, Jackie. What's up? I'm just really excited. Yay, thank you so much for taking the time. And when we were scheduling this, like, I remember the person from Bravo was like, Jackie's kids get home at three so she can't do it at three. Oh, my God. She was like, can you find a quiet place at 3 o'clock?

I'm like zero chance at my house. And I actually, because we get to see, you know, your family life on the show, I immediately just pictured, you have two sets of twins, right? Yes. That's crazy. It's crazy. And individually, each one of them is loud enough to destroy a podcast telephone call. So all four together, there was no chance this was happening.

Wait. So do twins run in your family? Like, how did this happen? No, no, no. I'm all fertility. And I'm very open about that. I mean, I haven't been open about it on the show just because of it. it hasn't come up. But yeah, I was five rounds of IVF. Oh my God. That's tough. But I got so lucky

twice. So you didn't know. So both times it just happened to be twins. Yeah. I mean, my first time I had IVF, I got pregnant with my older two. And then I had three rounds of like nothing, absolutely nothing. And then my fifth round, I got pregnant with twins again. Oh my God. Jackie, that is like I don't know much about it but when I see people struggling to get pregnant and having to go through like Amy Schumer just posted a thing about it did you see no so Amy Schumer just legit posted um she had a really hard pregnancy the first time she had like what's that called when you throw up the entire time oh right like Kate Middleton had it yeah and um right name I can't pronounce it yeah she's comparing herself to Kate Middleton um but yeah she's going for IVF and also being open about that's weird it never came up on the show well i think because it's in the past i mean if something's like present and relevant in your life right now yeah it comes up but things that are in your past i don't know you know how relevant they are i see well that's good for you like you're one hell of a strong woman because i'm sure all that shit it's like retrieving and this and that and uh it's a lot of

surgery it's a lot of shots it's a lot but i mean to have children i knew i wanted to be big family. When did you have your kids at what age? I had Jonas and Aden in 2008, so I was just shy of 32. And I had my next two, I think when I was two and a half years later. So I was 34. Oh, cool. Well, I'm 31. So, you know, so I'm on track. I'm on track. Good, good. I'm happy about that. And your family looks so lovely. And this is your second season, right? Yes. Oh, M.G. Louis. This season, let me tell you, I don't, like, I've said this before places. I'm like, Housewives of New Jersey is better than houses of New York. And a lot of people get very sensitive about New York because they just say, like, watching the New York women, like, do anything, like, get their nails done is interesting. But Houses of New Jersey really has been bringing it the past season. I mean, I've only been all for two seasons. And I think they're the best two seasons. that they've ever had. But I might be biased.

Did you watch last night? So listen, I'm like, I usually watch like a day late. And so right before I interview, I started watching yesterday's with the brunch. And I was like, I can't believe I didn't finish it before we spoke. But no, the shit is, no, I didn't finish it. But I'm caught up. Let's say the last crazy shit that happened was the fucking store situation. with Danielle pulling Margaret's hair.

That was insane. That what do you, like how are you around, like when you're around that kind of a thing, like what do you think to do, laugh, like scream, intervene, like? No, I'm really like a ride or die friend. So when I see one of my friends is upset or threatened, my only instinct is to really stand by them and make sure that they're okay. So I was really like being protective of Margaret. You never had any, like, altercation with Danielle.

I did, though. See, people don't know. They're like, why does Jackie hate Danielle? What did Danielle over do to Jeff? No, I didn't know. So, can I give you a little background? Oh, please. Take a minute.

So when I came on the show, like, you can't let anyone know officially that you're on the show. So I was filming the show for a while and I wasn't announced yet. So when Bravo finally announced me, I was so excited. and I couldn't say anything about anything until I did my press tour, which was on, I remember, it was on November 1st, and the show was starting on November 5th. So people knew that I was coming on the show, but they didn't know anything about me yet.

And Danielle, who was a friend, she wasn't a real housewife, she didn't get, I guess, like a Bravo press tour to promote the show. So she did her own little press tour. and she went on the Wendy Williams show in mid-October. And I was just like a nobody at the time sitting in my kitchen watching the Wendy Williams show and a big split screen comes behind her. And there's Jennifer on one side and me on the other side. And Danielle says we had two new girls this season and only one of them is good.

And the other one, the blonde one, she's boring. And she's one and done. And her exact words were, I've been to the zoo before. I know which animals survive. And she basically, like, destroyed me. And I was mortified. And I couldn't say anything because I couldn't talk about being on the show for another two weeks. So for two weeks, the whole world, the only impression of me that they had was that I was

boring and I was going to be gone after one season. And from that day on, I despised her. That is a real. No, my jaw is like to the floor right now. Yeah, I despise her. How did this? Nobody knows it. And that's why everyone's like, why is Jackie hate Danielle?

Because of Margaret, because she's standing by Margaret. And like, that's not the reason at all. I hate her because to do that to somebody is just very low. Wait, but how could she say who's going to be on the show when it wasn't out yet? I don't get it. I mean, does Danielle have a filter? Oh, no, no, no. Bobo had announced me already.

Oh, but you weren't allowed to talk about it. So people knew that I was on, but they knew nothing about me. My big coming out was when I was going to be having my press tour. Oh, she, well, A, she was probably just jealous. Yeah, I think so. And again, weird, this didn't come up on the show that you like say this, that this happened. Well, we had finished filming already. Oh, M.G. Louis.

Yeah. So I never really liked her. And she really did some awful things. I'm very, very close with Margaret, off the show. We are, like, super close friends. So I know a lot of the things that, the terrible things that, you know, went on between her and Margaret. And so I was definitely in that moment in the store.

My only instinct was to make sure that Margaret was okay. But isn't it weird? Like, you know how in life when you're friends with somebody, usually you're like, okay, A plus B, we'll see if, like, I have this friend, then I'll probably get why she has, you know, this other friend. And so how do we explain that Margaret, who is like a down-ass bitch and like we love her and she's great and she's amazing? How did she even, how was she even so close with her ever? It's like kind of weird.

You know, I asked her that too. And I said it seemed strange to me. But Danielle can be very endearing. I mean, before she turns like bananas on you, she is very warm and she makes you feel like she, really wants to know you and be your friend. So she draws you in. And I think Margaret had a season with her and got to know her. And then, you know, Margaret's just a really like soft, warm person. So if somebody wants to be friends with her, she'll be friends with you. And I think that's what happened. Danielle just drew her in and then turned. But if we're already on the subject,

then what do you think the only quam I had? Because I I am team Margaret is like, why would she, like, become close with, like, Marty? Like, why would she even, like, be on his side and talk to him about his issues? She was like, what, first of all, he seems like a weirdo to me. Like, I don't know him, but I'm not, like, too. Yeah. It's not like I'm like, oh, well, duh, because he's a great guy. I'm just like, okay.

Right. Why was she even really still in that, in that poop, you know? Like, if you're done with her, you got, you know, to know who she is. So why was she even still, like, in that, you know? From my understanding, Marty came to Margaret and Joe and really apologized for what happened at finale last year. And really, like, forged a good friendship with them. And I think he was really, like, I don't want to say relying on their friendship,

but he maybe took advantage of their kindness and their friendship. and he would talk to them about his situation and basically like cry to them about everything that was going on. There were restraining orders against him. He was embarrassed. He was upset. And so they were good friends. So all the things that that they would talk about were, you know,

I think they were giving Marty advice and stuff. But so odd, Danielle, like it is. It's hard because like as a viewer, like I never hate really anyone. on reality TV or like, you know, because it's, you know, I don't go, I don't want to have like those feelings. But with Danielle, it's just like it's hard to like her. It's hard to get positive feelings. Yeah. And I'm also friends with that girl Gina who was very serious with that man Oliver when Danielle just like stole him. How are we getting all these men? And that Oliver was like, you know, I don't know. Oliver was like, we used to call him Weekend at Bernie's

and all the pictures he looked like dead. She was like, dragging him a long shit. No, so what did you think about the fact that she announced that she's leaving? I mean, like,

it's, Sianara. It was a classic, like, quit before you're fired, right? I mean, who wanted her back?

Are you allowed to physically assault someone to come back on the show? I don't know. Isn't that a rule? Is that a rule? I don't know. I mean, on other reality TV shows,

I feel like, I don't know, like the big brother, like, you're out, like at that moment. I don't know. I wonder.

I don't know. If you have no friends on the cast, how can you be a friend? That's exactly. That's, I think, what's going around the most. And because they're kind of rumors that her and Teresa got into shit, which like, I'm hoping that was filmed and we'll get to see it because Teresa is at this point blindly standing by her. And now that you said that thing about her and Margaret, that she can be warm. And I can, now I'm starting to think about it and see it because there are moments when she talks to Teresa and she's like, baby, you know, and she's like, she's like, she's like, she's. like she has that like okay baby like i love you baby but at the same time like you have to be stupid to not see like the manipulation but you'll stand by me baby you got my back baby i'm like oh like what is right well teresa is also one of those type of people who like will be your friend until you do something bad to her you know and i think margaret's like that too and i have a little of that too it's just like the softer side of some of us some of us have that but what would

you do because i was thinking about that like what would you i was trying to think about myself and then and because teresa said that she's like italian and and dolores gets it too and like if someone was poured water on them they would do the same thing like with the hair pulling i mean i i do think i love margaret so much but i do think that pouring water on somebody is probably not the best idea if you don't want to get into her. Right. But she did like, however, we chest bump. However, I mean, when Danielle took all of Margaret's belongings and dumped them into that $700 candle and burned, basically burned her phone, her money and her Valentino bag, at that point, it would have been like, okay, I'm good. You know, like I got my revenge for the water.

Oh my God. And she like chess bumped her like a criminal like in jail. Like it was just a very. There was a lot going on there. to say that I don't I don't really want a bad mouth Danielle because I think she's she's had a lot of shit in her life and it's really you know that's probably why she acts out the way that she does and I'm sure there's a good side of her too and she raised two beautiful daughters but from what I've seen she has not been a very good friend to people who have been good friends to her right okay guys if you follow me on Instagram or listen to my podcast, you know that I've been using pros for my hair for the past over six

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I do want to, well, what I was thinking at that point when there was drama, I was like, well, at least Jackie's like not having drama right now. Like, you're not having beef. Teresa's cool with you. Like, everything's kind of good on your front at this point. And then. See, you needed to watch yesterday. Oh, shit. All the shit breaks loose.

No, but it's. So I'll tell you what you missed is, well, Margaret had a mother's day brunch. see that? Yeah, I did. And then I invited all the girls out to my my beach house. I have a house in the Hamptons. And I think certain of the women who live in Paramus, they were very surprised to know that I had a Hampton's house. And I think that when Jennifer found out that I had money, it she she couldn't process it she didn't know how to handle it and she she kind of flies off the handle oh m g that is uh because you know what i was looking out for it because when the episode starts and you invite them i was dying to see because the first people you called were teresa and delores

and i was like oh their reactions were they didn't have they weren't they didn't talk shit they were like happy about the invite so and i was waiting for that and i'll you know my freaking bad that I didn't finish the episode, but most people that follow me know that I'm always like a day freaking late, but I should have. No, it's, it's cool. I just, the funniest thing was and like, of course, I don't know what the other people are doing when I invite them, you know? So as soon as I invited Jennifer, she hung up the phone, she runs to her computer and she Googles how much my house on the beaches work. Oh, my. And how much rent I get for it a month. because I sometimes rents it in the summer.

And she just like goes to town on how much it's worth, how much I paid for it, how much I get for rent, all of it. Well, she also doesn't get that you can like have money and not like flaunt it like crazy every second or the day. But that's another question that I have, Jackie, because yeah, I was talking about like friendships before like Margaret and Danielle. I didn't get you and Jennifer. I tried very hard with Jennifer's.

First season, we really liked each other. We felt like, you know, we were the same, we came in at the same time, we were basically the same age or a few months apart. We both have a whole lot of children. Our daughters really liked each other. So there was that, you know. And a lot of times when Jennifer would just be like really crazy, I would say, well, maybe she's just doing it for show. Maybe she just wants to appear like that. So she's more entertaining.

But it's real. No, it really is Jackie. I tried to like her. But Jackie, no, it's not real and it is for the show because even the shit with Teresa, the way she brings shit up, like it's like Reality 101, it's like, hey, Teresa. So, Margaret said that you're an embarrassment. And then... No, it is not for the show.

That is what she does because... And I'm not going to like spend an hour bashing Jennifer because I think that Jennifer has some great qualities. I really do. And I think the conversation she's having with her mother about her brother are really important. But when Jennifer made that video about me at the beginning of the year, and I'm not going to whine about it because I think the first half of the season I come off a little whining. And I'm not a whiny person at all. I'm actually like, I'm always smiling, laughing, like joking. I'm a funny person. I'm not whining. But when she made that video, that was before filming started.

So we were friends at that point. We were talking this summer about taking our girls to a JoJo C-W concert together. You probably don't know who that is because you don't have like an eight-year-old girl. But we were friends, like legitimately friends. And she went out to dinner with Teresa and made fun of me

at a table full of Teresa's friends who all hated me. And they put it on Instagram for Teresa's 2 million followers. and we were friends at that point. So it's not for show. And it wasn't for the show either. She just did that because that's the person she is. Yeah.

I don't think you came off whiny. I think that people need to look at, even though it's reality TV, at like your real life. Like if your friend did this, wouldn't you fucking be upset with them? Like it's not like, oh, this isn't the craziest shit. Like people have like flipped tables.

Like no, but that's actually. like real life like if your friend does something like that i would it's it's mean and um i'm glad that you stood up for yourself on that and she ended up apologizing and getting it and then she did that whole like imitating everyone and that was kind of funny um and made it more like uh i guess unanimous and not just yeah and i'm okay i'm okay if you want to joke about me in front of me that's fine just don't do it like when i'm not there and then put it on Instagram. Yeah. But that's the thing. Like I get that you're, I know how it is when you have kids. It's like you become friends because of the kids and everything. But still it was hard to, and I get that you came in together. But I feel like your vibes are very different like as people. Well, I think that plays out this season. And in the second half of this season, I think you'll see a lot of that play out. Oh, intriguing. And also, I mean, listen, when you guys went to, what is it, Jamaica? Oh my God.

I'm having flashbacks. I'm like, yeah, man. Oh, God. I got destroyed on that trip. I came home. Everyone's like, I was Jamaica. I'm like, I have no words. And I know this is like superficial, but I'm like superficial when it comes to like vacations. Like, you know, and obviously you had an amazing room.

But that shit was fucked up. Like they like to put you. I was so rude. They like, I mean, you're going to get like, just get to freaking rooms next to each other. So nobody is like, like, like, obviously one room was amazing and one room sucked like one room sucked was a gazillion years away like I don't know that must have felt so shitty it was annoying I actually thought our room was very pretty it's not that it sucked it's just like she made a big show of how fabulous her room

was and then stuck us there I thought it was just rude it was just rude don't invite me on the trip then so but you seem to have like really tough skin like you came in you immediately told Teresa, you know, talking about when you first came on the show, I immediately, like, stood up to Teresa, who's like the OG or whatever, which usually people come in and kind of not kiss her ass, but, you know, try to be on her good side, and you didn't. And I feel like I would cry in my room at, like, no, he wouldn't. She's not that intimidating. She's really not. What did she really do at the end of the day? Throw something at me? Right. And you can't out-talk. me. That's true. That's true. I'm smart cookie. You're a smart cookie. You were an attorney. Now

you're a real estate, right? I, well, I have a small real estate management company, but I'm also a freelance journalist. Oh, right, right. And you had like, you know, from day one, Melissa was like loving you. So you definitely had like a support group. A support system. Yeah. The three of us are still very, very close. We go out together all the time. So coming on the show, in the beginning, like, is that a fucking whirlwind? Like, how did, can you explain a little bit, like, what you can tell us about how it happened that you got on the show and like, I don't think I'm allowed to really break that fourth wall, but I will say that it's, it's very surreal.

I mean, especially at the beginning, because you're not allowed to say that you're on the show until Bravo announces you. So you're filming and you're showing up for school pickup with like full hair and makeup. like I look like a woman in drag to get my kids from second grade. But seeing yourself on TV, it does take getting used to. I mean, the camera captures things

that you didn't know it would capture and there are days when like your hair extensions are showing and like you just have to get used to people commenting about you and there's a lot of things to get used to. By second season, you're a lot more used to them. And now, now I feel like, I mean, if I'm asked back for a third season, which I hope I am and I would come back, um, by third season, you're like, whatever it is. Yeah, you get you, you get used to it and you're, yeah. Like, you want to talk about me sucking my husband's dick. That's whatever. I don't care.

So watching it back, like your soul wasn't like at all. Like you don't get at, like when people talk shit about you, not you specifically. I'm saying everyone talk shit about everyone in like confessionals. No, you don't feel like, isn't it hard? It is hard, but I, like, no one has ever said, I don't care really what you say about me. If you don't, if, as long as you don't insult the people I love, like my family, I can handle it. And Margaret and Melissa are the people that I really care about. I mean, I care about Dolores and Teresa too. But Margaret and Melissa really would never say anything bad about me as I would never say anything bad about them. like you know who you're real friends are yeah it's fine and you can't control what the rest of the

world's going to say about you listen to what social media says about me sometimes it's worse than anything that teresa and dolores i've ever said about me really i haven't seen yeah i haven't seen no i mean like trolls i don't mean like regular comments like i get told that my face is sideways my lips are weird i tie the list but i mean whatever it is it cares it's listen, it is freaking crazy, this world of, like, people that, like, I don't know how people do it. Ariana from, like, Vanderpump Rules, who's, like, also gorgeous, just put up, like, stop asking me why my cheeks are puffy. Like, they are the way there. And I'm like, I know, my mother, I had to, I had to kick my mom off Twitter. She was, like, getting so everything. I was

like, stop reading Twitter. Oh, yes. I'm an Instagram gal, so I actually don't go on Twitter. And whenever my followers, like, see shit, they'll send it to me. And I'm like, okay, Twitter is a freaking war zone. Like, I don't want to be on there. It's the worst. It's the worst. You're so mean on there. Oh, the worst.

And there's a lot of fake accounts that use your picture, too. And then they comments on things, like, make terrible comments. And people are like, is that Jackie Goldschneider making that comment? Oh, my God. So, speaking of Gold Schneider, you're obviously a Jew, a sister Jew. Oh, you're Jewish? Oh, duh. Oh, I didn't know that.

I'm Israeli, too. So I'm like a mega Jew. Oh, the mother's Israeli. Really? Yeah. I didn't know. What's her 13? What's her name?

Well, her Hebrew name, her original name is Hana. Oh, I didn't know that. So much. She goes by Ann now. Yeah. She came when she was 13. She came to Brooklyn. She was born in Haifa and grew up right outside of Tel Aviv in a town that's very

religious now called B'nai Brock. Oh, my God. First of all, Jackie, you know so much. I'm actually from Haifa, too, in Israel. Like, that's where my family's from. Oh, my goodness. Israel is the most. beautiful country. Have you been with your family? I have been with Evan before we had children and then

I remember when I was having all those problems getting pregnant. I put a note in the Western wall and asked to please let me have a big family one day and I'm sort of convinced that that helped. Oh, that's so great. A religious girl. And we are going, we are planning to take my older boys back for their bar mitzvah next June. Oh, that's awesome. That's such a great idea. That's such a great idea. People, you know, Israel is one of the coolest places. Tel Aviv is like the coolest city. Some people don't know it. They think people are like riding camels there like in the desert. But it's actually a very cool place. And so amazing. Are you the only Jewish person on the show? On the Jersey cast? Yeah. On the Jersey.

And then I don't know I don't know how many Jewish housewives there are across the entire franchise. I mean, Bethany is gone. Yeah, Jill Zarin is gone. Jill Zarin is gone. And I think that I saw a picture of Bronwyn from O.C.

Oh, um, Dorit is Israeli. Oh, Dorit. Yes, Dorit. Which like, I don't watch Beverly Hills. I have this thing where like I'm watching like the area that I'm in to like New York and New Jersey. but it took me a while like I'd hear things about her and I didn't connect that Dorit is like Dorit like it just I would yeah yeah she's Jewish right and she's uh legit israeli um so did you feel because like again you know going back to you know one of those lunches

or dinner is where Jennifer, you're saying it's not for the show, but it feels kind of like it instigates and is like, well, Dolores said that you're not even, that she doesn't consider you a friend, which is like fifth gradeish. Did that feel, like that's one of the things where I'm like, okay, obviously this is like stupid. It's middle school behavior, but it's also fucking hurtful in the moment to be told something like that. It is. And you know what? I'm the type of person who feels things. Like I do feel emotions deeply. And it's sort of why I became a writer because I would have all this like emotion flowing through my head and I'm like, I got to get it out. But I do feel things and I think that a lot, I'm going to go like a little deep for a second,

but I think that a lot of mental illness in this country is because people are not allowed to like have emotions or be upset about things. You always have to be strong and you always have to like hide everything and mental illness is not to be discussed enough. I don't have mental illness but I think that we're supposed to hide a lot of stuff that we're feeling and dealing with and I just don't if I'm feeling something I'm going to tell you and I'm not ashamed that I'm an emotional person so I think that they weren't used to that I think they have to be tough but did you feel in that moment like wait Dolores but what the fuck like we are friends why are you saying that um I think I think I figured it out by the look under fate like

Dolores's alliances were very strong. Like, she was very much team Jennifer and team Teresa. And so I think based on the fact that the two of them didn't like me, no matter what I did with Dolores, I don't think that she was going to like me until she really got to know me for herself. And until that point, we really hadn't made an effort to get to know each other. I thought we were friends because she had called me to see if I, would put my husband, who's very big in finance, in touch with her son who wanted to go into

finance. And I was so happy to do that. And they connected and they really liked each other. And I was happy to do that for Gloris. And we just, you know, exchanged a few, like, text messages with heart icons. I mean, so I thought we were friends. But I guess we weren't at that point. But I will say we've come a long way since then. Oh, good. Because I think she can be like a downass bitch, too. Like I feel like she, you know, she's, she's cool and there is no reason for you guys to, to not vibe. Right. And we had to get to know each other, though. And once we got to know each other, we really liked each other and respected each other and our differences.

We are different people. Yeah. But we really liked each other. But I am different. Yeah. I'm different for the cast. I was, you know, raised a little differently. And I am emotional and I do express things.

And I'm okay with that. But when they were talking about like, well, Jackie's. different like you have to let her know before you come over and like all that shit did that feel like oh my god did that i mean you do that what i think it's so fucking crazy that people have open door policies on their house i mean if i have two hours to work before my kids come home and you come in during those two hours and you want me to make you a cup of coffee you want to chat like i'm going to be angry like burning up i'm not going to be nice do you have our policy no is that more and no i don't understand that. No. And do they really

like with each other or are they talking about really close family? Like what are I think they're talking about family but I think like also long time friends probably qualify as family but I think they're talking about like their parents like to them and I have to respect that if that's their

way you know but to them if your mom and dad want to come over they can walk right through the fucking door and like you better make them a fucking chicken color. I mean like you have have no-no grilling up those chicken colors because how do you tell them that they have to he's the best by the way I need a no-no in my kid like I can't dinner he just comes on the screen and I just cry it's just so he's so nice he's a good guy but did it feel like a Jewish thing at all like or a no I mean I saw a lot of comments about that I didn't take it like that at all um I know that Dolores through the years has had lots and lots of very close Jewish people in her life.

So to me, that didn't even cross my mind until I saw it on social media. And I don't think she was implying that raised had anything to do with my religion. I think she was talking about some of the values. My mom and I are both very liberal. I'm not talking politics, like just morally, we're very liberal. And I think that was different. and I think that made me into a different kind of person. So that's the way that I took it, like your morals,

not really having to do with religion. Because I was going to say, like, I feel like the Jews are like the, you know, we're not different from like kind of like the Italian, like where, you know, family is a big thing and like we like eating and like food is a thing. You know what I mean? Yeah. No, I don't think we're that different at all. And I grew up in Staten Island, New York.

And I mean, it was like Jewish Italian Central. I was basically like Jewelian. I was the closest you could get to Italian and not being Italian. Oh, you grew up in Staten Island and then your next, um, your next kind of home was New Jersey, or did you ever live in the city? Well, yeah, no, I, so we did the Jewish migration. We were in Brooklyn, went to Staten Island and then, so you make a little money, you go to Staten Island, then you make a little more money and you go to like the Manalp and Marlborough area

of New Jersey. Uh-huh. Um, I, I moved there in high school and so I never really, connected with that area so much. But then I left for college. I went to college in Boston. And me and Andy both went to BU. And when I graduated BU, I moved straight to New York City and went to law school at Fordham. Oh. And yeah, I lived in New York City until my oldest kids were a year old. So I moved 10 years ago to New Jersey. Oh, so your kids even grew up like for the first year of their lives in the city. So did you move to New Jersey for more space? Because you wanted to have

like bigger family. Yeah, I mean, I was like living my life in a two block radius. I'd go to the, I'd take my babies in the double stroller. I'd get in the elevator. I'd go to the supermarket. I'd go to like the deli across the street. Evan and I would have a date night. We'd go to like the movie theater two blocks away or the Italian must run across

the street. And like, it was basically like, why are we here? We're not going out. We're not enjoying Broadway. We're not like being cultural. Let's just have a yard and a minivan, right? Oh my God. you literally described my life and I don't know what to do right now with that literally

do you have kids well not yet but that's um oh right you said that but like once you're at that point it's kind of like you're paying all this money and like you don't have a car and you have to carry your shit everywhere and in the winter you have to fucking walk and like I was over it first of all years already that's really true and the second part of it is like I live on the Upper East Side and I like glowed and I'm proud of the fact that I'm like, but I don't even go anywhere outside of the Upper East Side. I know. And I'll tell you, you appreciate the city so much more when you don't live there. It's like, I live very close to the city. But every time I go in, I'm like, the city, I love you. But then I get to go home and like I have a nice big house and, you know, a yard.

It's good. Yeah. No, that that is definitely, I feel like. Like, you know, when you're younger, you're like, I would never move to the suburbs. And then you get older and you're like, but I just want to drive please. And I know. It's when you're ready for it, it's great. If you're not, I will tell you, there are people here who like weren't ready to leave the city and they fucking hate it. They're miserable. Yeah.

No, I can. They hashtag everything, burb life in their pictures and they're like miserable. You know, it's like a dead flower growing in your lawn. It's like bird life. Like, that's not burb life. Like, if you're not ready for it, you're going to fucking hate it. Right, but you could always go back. I mean, you can always go to that.

Right. I know people who have gone back, but I actually really like it here and I go into the city all the time. So it's the best in both worlds. That's amazing. I did want to ask you about this last episode, even though I didn't finish it and I'm an asshole, that when Margaret didn't invite Teresa to the brunch, Teresa seemed like genuinely upset when she was like crying at Mother's in.

She was like, Margaret's my friend. Like, even though we've been through shit, she knows my mom. so what did you first of all that's like gutsy of margaret because again i don't know why but i'd be scared of teresa even though you made a good point like maybe i shouldn't be um but she literally was like no she like you know wasn't on my side i'm not going to invite her margaret was really really upset that you know it wasn't even about like taking sides as much as the fact that margaret really was insulted if you watch it like she ripped her hair her neck back like she was attacked and so for Teresa not to even for Teresa to follow Danielle out the door

and make sure Danielle was okay really was hurtful to her and I think she was reacting to that so it was very hurtful to Teresa and I felt I felt bad but I understood where Margaret was coming from both of them were just in a bad place and yeah I wonder what how this episode is going to turn out you told me there's a lot to look forward to i saw that the internet went crazy like about your home so i'm excited to see that too like in the hamptons they were like oh my house in the hamptons yeah well you know ever since i had that party in my drive i mean do you remember last year jen came to my house before the wine tasting event and she called my house and i mean it's a beautiful house but it's not like the size of jennifer's house but that's by choice i mean i lived in a little

apartment in the city. I don't want to move into a hotel. I want to know where my family is. I don't need a gazillion dollar house. But also, I live in Tenify. It's a very expensive town. So, I mean, oh yeah, lots of Jews and Israelis there too, right? Yeah, tons of Israelis. But you get, you know, what you pay for here. It's like you're not going to get what you get in Paramus for, you know, a few million dollars. So where was I going with this? Oh, so, but I think You know that people were dying over your Hampton's house. Right. But what I'm saying is I think people had be pegged as like the house

who really didn't have any money. And I don't, I'm just not a showy person. I have never, ever been. And like, I spend money on things, but I do not put it on Instagram. I don't show it off. I don't give you tours of my closet and all my shoe collections. I just don't do it. It's not my style.

And I think that people were like blown away by the fact that I have a beachfront house in the Hamptons. Like they were like, what, what's going on in Reash Jockey? Because none of them, like in New York, most of them kind of do, but in, but none of the New Jersey housewives have like a, like a summer house. No, they have summer houses. It's just, you know, like a Hamptons. It's like a different thing. But I think the whole fact that like I'm like, I throw my kids driveway parties must mean that like I don't have the means to do anything more. And I think they had me completely pegged wrong and they were very caught off guard by the fact that I have this

multi-billion dollar house on the beach in the Hamptons and like what else do I have and that becomes the question I'm so excited to see their reaction yeah it's wild so um what because like you said like you've been for two seasons like we saw the second season a little bit to go but um and you want to be call back for a third which like crossing fingers uh what do you feel like wasn't kind of what didn't come out on the show about you that you would want to come out more, to be shown more that people would see and like get to know? Well, I think that I came off, like I said, a little whiny and that's not me. I'm not a whiner. But I was genuinely hurt by things that happened in the first half of the season. So I would want people to see more of like the really fun side of me,

the party girl side. And I think you do see that in the next few episodes more. and I don't know I love scenes with my kids and my family because being a mother is my number one priority so I would like to see more of that but I think you've been getting a pretty accurate idea of me I mean I love being on the show

and so far I'm happy with it I think I you know I rarely I don't complain I don't call about the editing I don't think there's been any misediting on my part I just you know I I think they've been doing you a good job.

I'm really happy with the show. I really am. Oh, you're so cute, Jackie. It's like, all like positive, Penny. I'd be like, I came out ugly in the confessional. Oh, I was fucking gross in half the shit. I mean, I think in next week's episode, I walk into the kitchen and half my robe is stuffed in the back of my

pajama pants and I'll watch that episode. And I'm like, oh, my God, no one told me. But you know what? It's fine. Who cares? It's reality. It is. And you got to let go of a lot of shit.

shit you do you just got to like both caring about a lot of little things and i do love the scenes with your kids too because your parenting style seems like you're very like like you talk to them on your level like you're not like you're not like talking to them like kids you're talking to them like very the way you would talk to a friend like i like i like the way you talk to them it's a very like you know what i mean yeah well they're smart kids too they get it like you're the way you explain the the food stuff to them and they got it right away. Yeah. And also thank you for that for being so open on the show about like eating disorder stuff. Oh yeah. I am so happy to have this platform to be able to talk about that because it is still something that I struggle with.

And you'll see that also. There are things that I still really struggle with in terms of eating, but I've also come a really long way with my recovery. So and I think there's a lot of women who still are in that like middle area, that gray area of like, well, I, you know, I'm still a little too restrictive or I wish I could get rid of these habits or, you know, a lot of people just hate the way they look, whether they're skinny or they're heavy or there. So I think, but, you know, talking about it is very therapeutic for a lot of people. But Jackie, you seem like confident. So do you don't have that issue of like not liking the way. Oh, my God, do you hear this? I just turned on when my kids toys. Sorry.

I'm sorry. Oh, I thought they got home. No, I came into the basement because they told me to be closer to the Wi-Fi router. And I just put my hand on it on a Jojo Siwa purse and she started singing. Oh, my God. I am very confident, but it does. Well, I spent also a very long time hiding things. So I got good at that.

But, yeah, I love the way I look now because I'm strong. And I gained, you know, a lot, I'm a lot bigger than I was when I, even though I'm still very did when I was in the worst of my disorder, I'm a lot bigger than I was then. So I do eat and I'm happy with the way I look and I, you know, I lift weights now. So I do have a lot of muscle. So I like the way I look now and I'm happy with my recovery. Well, you look amazing and good for you. What kind of pissed me off on the show is like comments, which I think I don't want to like blame Jennifer for everything today. But I feel like Jennifer made a few comments like, oh, like, oh, you're not eating or I know. And I really don't like that.

that I really don't. And she knows like your history. It's not like she doesn't. Right. And not for nothing, not for nothing, but she's got some issues too. And I don't think that she really should have been commenting. I mean, it's not healthy to restrict what you eat, but it's also not healthy to rely on plastic surgery. And, you know, I think she's on a diet now that a lot of people swear by, but I think you need to do injections of some HCG or something like that.

Oh, she did. I heard about that. Yeah. I mean, is that healthy either? I mean, watch what you eat, get a good mixture of, like, protein and fiber and, like, don't overdo it on, like, bad stuff. And then, like, exercise a little. And I think that's the key. Yeah. I mean, it is hard. It sounded really easy what you just said. Right. But what I'm saying, it's not easy. That's not easy at all. But don't tell me that I'm doing it wrong when your diet involves injections and liposection. You know, I mean, That's what I'm saying. Well, yeah, that's her tagline. But so I did want to ask you, did you write your own? Because at Bravo, they told me once. Like, some housewives write it themselves and some they get it written for them. I don't want to say with that one. It's a joint effort.

It's a joint effort. But you're happy with it. Yeah. Although, my minivan days just ended. So my lease just ended after nine years. We renewed it a few times. It was three-year leases at a time. And so we got the minivan when my littlest babies were a few months old and the lease ended and we got a Tesla and it's like a new life.

Well, you've got to change the tagline now. I know. Don't fool you this Tesla won't roll over for anyone. Well, Daki, thank you so much for making the time to come on, like had so much fun talking to you. Thank you. I loved it. So Jackie, freaking Gold Schneider, everyone, follow her on Instagram. Are you a Twitter person?

I am. I'm at J.G. Schneide. J.G. Schneide, Instagram, TikTok. No, I'm just kidding. Your kids are probably on TikTok. I think they are. I'm not. Not yet.

That's who should be on it, I feel like kids. We need to stay away. I've seen adults on TikTok and it's not. It's not pretty. Yeah. I mean, to steer clear. It's steer clear. and can't wait to finish this episode

and see the rest of the season and you're awesome. Thank you so, so much. Thank you. This is great. Thanks, Jackie. Thank you guys for listening to this episode. I really hope you enjoyed it.

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