Not Skinny But Not Fat - GOOP, POOP + JEN & BEN WITH JENNY MOLLEN

Episode Date: July 9, 2024

Best-selling author and woman on the edge of sanity Jenny Mollen Biggs returns to the pod to cackle with me for an hour straight. We discuss the Gwyneth Paltrow poop rumor circulating, signs of Jen & Ben's potential split, Jenny's hot dad, and my cameo as a leaf on the wind...! Listen to her amazing pod All The Fails every Friday and watch Jenny and Jason's new show Dinner & A Movie every Saturday on TBS!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Join me for new episodes every Tuesday wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome back to the not skinny but not fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars or my very own podcast where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. First of all, I'm just going to say before we start. Yes. But you're fucking crazy. Yes, I know. I actually love when you comment on anything I post and your comments should always just kill me.

What do I say? Oh, my God. You're like, oh, my God. You did not actually do this. I don't know what to do with you. But what do you're like, I've told you since we met that you're chaotic. chaotic yes and like your grid represents that we talked about that too yeah she's always like your grid is the least curated grid i've never seen in my life she'll post like a couch and be like i sat here

like literally she doesn't care there is no and like i don't care it's not like mine is pretty and has bows and like a color coordination yes but like i care that it's like postworthy do you think of that is this posed worthy i think what's you accidentally post it's funny it's going. It doesn't matter. I feel like for you, you accidentally posed. Maybe you meant to post the stories.

Like it was a pocket post. I sat on my phone and it just posted something. Yes. You know what? You sat on your phone and it posed it. That's going to be the next post. Pocket post, guys. Sorry, ignore.

And that's another thing you would do. You would post something with no context. It doesn't matter if people don't get it. You get it. I get it. And maybe another person. Because it's actually just my personal journal. Right.

One day I will look back and, you know, like when I'm in a home, think I, you know, I can, like, trace my life through these photos. Right. And, like, your tits are out. Oh, yeah. Well, that's, I think that just, you know, that's good publicity for Oren. I just like to help Oren. Is that it?

What does he owe you? What do you? I love to help people and have them be intended to me for life. Does Oren give you everything for free? No, but, like, he gives me a great deal. And do, let's just put it that way? Yeah. And do people, like, come from you, you think?

to his practice? I hope they do because I do think he's amazing. That's the thing. I won't post people that I'm not into.

I won't post like fucking shitty food that I don't actually eat. I don't want to do... You don't really do like brand deals. No, because I say notice tons of shit.

Yeah. I don't want to sell candy. I don't want to fucking hawk. Look at your huge high. We have so much to talk about. I'm a Jew, guys. First of all, you're half. I'm half Jewish.

But I was Bhat mitzvud in Israel. So then you're full. That made me fall. We talked about this when you first came on and I remember it because it was such a memorable thing for us. When was that? When did that book come out? When did City of Lakes come out? Oh my God.

This is the best. She comes to my, she hosts my book. No. No, no, no. Go back. Okay. You, your PR, Jamie. Yes.

We set up an interview for you on my show. I had followed you regardless of the book. I liked you on Instagram and you approved of my chaos. Yeah. I liked it. I was like, You were studying it like it was like a national geographic. What the fuck is happening here?

So when they were like, she's coming out with a book. When I have her on your show, I was like, yeah, didn't read the book. Like interview came up. Yeah. You guys, I'm way more professional today, by the way. Yes. I know. You've gotten good.

I've gotten better. Yeah. Then it was like, yeah, maybe I didn't. You're always improving, you know? Today I maybe just wouldn't have someone on with a book, you know, if I couldn't read it. won't mention what she won't mention you trying to show me book but yeah it's it's hard to read a book okay completely i'm talking to my 10 year old about this every day like it's it's it's it's a lot to read a book and until you get to one page 100 it's all books are pretty much boring so i get your book i'm like

i'm gonna read it i'm gonna read it interview is coming up i didn't read it then i asked i don't remember who i was like what do i didn't read the book and someone was like just go to random pages so you can at least like a little bit now. So I did that. And so I had a few. No, first of all sucked me in, but I still didn't read it. But I had some good like anecdotes to. And by the way, you guys, it worked because Jenny was on my pod.

We talked about the book. Not only, obviously, but some. And obviously I was good at faking it until I made it. Yes. Because at the end, you're like, I remember because I told this to you when I walked in the interview. Jenny is like a salesman. from like you know you go to a foreign country and you're walking down the market and they're

been to the berber market and they're stumble when someone's trying to sell you a rug yes like a fake that's literally jenny will sell like so you said what are you doing that day and i was like i don't know like i couldn't think of like even if i wanted to i had no excuse at that moment oh my god you really didn't want to do it you put me on the spot oh my god no i didn't know you just put like that moment you asked me you're like what are you doing on this day And I'm like, I don't know. And you're like, do you want to do my, on the podcast? You were like, I want you to moderate my book event.

And I was like, oh, that was good. Yeah, I'm telling you. I really should sell cars. I mean, fuck Blazers. I should be working at like the fucking Jeep Grand Cherokee dealership. So I was like, okay. And then I read the book. So I was like, okay, for the book event, I need to read the book.

Yes. And I loved it so much. That'd have been like the last book I wrote. The funniest part was she got up at my book event. My editor almost had a heart attack. And she goes, these are great books for girls who don't want to read and don't like reading. This is a great book for someone who doesn't like reading. Yeah.

But that's what I want to write for. I want to write books that grab you right away. I mean, my son, I'm fucking having to read Percy Jackson with him. And I'm bored, guys. It's boring. You need to be sucked into a book right away. No, Jenny, really, you write. I know that I give you shit, but like you are such a good writer.

Like if I, I used to think I could write, but if I could decide what kind of writing, like I'd want to write like you. Oh my God. That is so sweet. No, you're such a good writer. Even in your substack. That's so nice. Everyone swipe up, subscribe.

Sell my substack. Can I offer you a vintage rug and a substack? Wait, substack is like a thing. It's become a thing. It's not like underground for like. weirdos. It's not just for people like me anymore. I feel like everyone has a substab. No, now people have subsat. Yes. You signed me up against my will to your substack. And I read them every time. I'm like, I need to eat the salad. I need to know where the best oils are. Yes. You need to know what

plastic surgeons you want to have on your radar. Wait, this is crazy. You did a mommy makeover now. Yes. We didn't talk about this like in life. No, I know. I don't think we did. No, we didn't. I wasn't really planning to have a mommy makeover, but again, I love to... Also, you had your kids, last kid was... He's six. Right. I love to chase a story. I love to do things for the plot.

And that's kind of why when my mom said she wanted to redo her facelift, I was like, well, what should I have done? Let's do it together and let's do it on Mother's Day and make a whole thing out of it. And what does your mom say to this? She's down. Oh, my God. My mom loves plastic surgery. So she's like, of course... But for you?

Is she like, Jenny, you don't need it? no my mom's like you need to redo my mom's the one who told me to redo my boobs she's like those look terrible wait why did they look bad because she felt because i didn't ever do an actual lift after i breastfed you know how like your boobs get deflated and become sort of like a you know just a situation yeah all i did was i cinched them in like a purse so i had sutures that went around my nipple to like pull the boob back up into place and they were just kind of like hanging there like two little clutches that you can take to a dinner party. Is that something that called something else? I don't know. Wait, was it Orrin that did it back then? A different doctor.

Orrin and I got into a huge fight about it. So when my mom came to town and she said, you know, you have to redo your boobs. If you're going to go under, you need to redo your boobs. And so I did. Wait, what else did you do when you were under? This was the best thing. So, okay, I had this little globule of fat that I hated right here, a little pocket that starts to happen. You won't know. like 10, 12 years, and then one day you'll come to me and say, Jenny, it's happening to me. But when we went under, he basically took my own fat, went from here, and put fat here. Under your eyes. So that it wasn't as hollow.

And I'm obsessed because I don't have filler here. I don't have filler anywhere in my face. It's just your fat. My own fucking fat. And it's the best thing ever. And my mom looked like a kind of skeletorish before. He took it from the goblet. No.

Oh, the fat is from somewhere else. There wasn't enough fat in the goblet. He went in on my inner thigh. Took some fat and put it up here. So the only thing in your face was... Is my own fat. And Botox, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Well, the forehead is... Yeah, it ain't moving today. A little bit. Well, this, I just... I still love it. I actually have some bruises. But wait, when you were... Oh, I guess when you were doing, like, a lot of acting,

you weren't doing Botox. Because Kim Kardashian just said... I did. That she doesn't have enough movement in her face to be able to... legit actress. No, it was actually funny. I have a, I, so my first book, we turned into like a digital series for ABC. And there was a shot of me where I'm supposed to be reacting to Jason finding this drone that was covered in blood because like I ran a drone into his ex-girlfriend's

head. Guys, it's all in the first book. It's autobiographical based on true events. What did it call the first book? I like you just the way I am. Oh, I like that story's about me and some other people. And, wait, that was a New York Times bestseller, no? Yes. And he came in, my face is, like, supposed to be reacting. I had to do a voiceover in, like, post saying... Why, we're getting Botox then? I couldn't react because I couldn't move. So it was like, I was upset.

And then I think the line was something like, I was upset, but there was too much Botox in my face for you to be able to tell. Oh. I had to fix it. Oh, my God. So she's right. Yeah, it is hard to act with, like... With a lot of movement.

Okay, let's get to the high necklaces for a second. You're representing... I'm referencing. You leave, okay, there's another thing you need to know about Jenny. She leans in. Whatever it is. Whatever it is. What?

I follow a plot. I go full force on things. Full force. I will do most anything for like good food. For a good salad. For a damn. I know. That's triggering.

I'll just tell you that personally the me is triggering. Why? First of all, it is true. Every time I talk to you on the phone, I'm eating. You're chomping on celery. Yes. And that could never be me. Why?

Because it's not tasty to me. I grew up in a family that like didn't eat. meet and I had to get on the treadmill every day after school. I didn't know that people didn't lift weights. Wait, tell me about that. I didn't know that about you. Yes. My dad is my dad is sort of like a have a diet, he was like on, you know, he was on TV. He was sort of like a local celebrity, ran races, wrote books on diet and exercise. Yeah. So that's kind of. So that's ingrained in you. Well, I've always been eclipsed by like a more famous man in my life. Wait, But it drives me.

It motivates me. You were born in Arizona. So where was this celebrity doctor stuff happening there? Yes. Really? What kind of doctor is he? He's just like a, you know, a GP. He does everything.

But he was like big. So he was like one of the first people to do blue shots in drugstores. That's kind of like what he ended up. Becoming famous for? Well, I don't know. He was always running. His shirt was always off. He always had a bunch of turquoise jewelry on.

He was like a drove of Ferrari. He's a good looking man. Jason hates when I say this, yes. My dad was like super hot. Wait, is he not alive? Yes. Oh, okay. I mean, I guess it's still hot, but like he was really hot. I always say, my dad was so hot, Jason. Wait, Jason doesn't like that you see. And we still kiss on the lips. Oh, okay, that's weird. Okay, sorry. Don't judge me. I don't know. It's not weird at this age. Does it feel weird? That my dad and I kiss on the lips? Yeah. Well, we don't tongue each other. But yeah, I know. There's a lot of enmeshment.

Wait, does Jason not like the kissing on the lips? No, he thinks it's weird. And I say it's because we're Jewish. And he's like, I know other Jewish people that don't kiss their fathers on the mouth. Wait, I want to remind people, because this is a very important reminder, Jason Biggs is not Jewish everybody. Yeah, he's not. So stop thinking that he is.

Yes. I don't think people ever will. He's been making money off of the Jews for years. and he's an Italian. And actually he's so Italian that he just got his Italian citizenship. So my children are going to have Italian passports.

Why didn't he? Even though they speak German and they are getting... Yeah, and we need to get to that too. Here's another crazy thing about Jenny. This is what I'm going to name the podcast. Crazy things about Jenny Mullen. I love it. Okay, so Jenny had a German boyfriend.

And like since then, you've become obsessed with Germany. with German. I leaned in on that. She leased to wear your next look like. Leaning in. Leaning in. And all the things you like went, you dove in.

Yeah. Like full. So you had a German board. Well, I call him Bruno in the books. He was a foreign exchange student at my high school. And at the time he looked like a vampire. He had long nails because he played classical guitar. Ew.

I thought he was so weird. That's such an egg. Long nails. I thought he was the weirdest. And, you know, he. He had a crush on me, I guess. He left me this love letter. It was in German.

I didn't speak German at the time. Cut to, I graduated high school. He goes back. I forget all about him. I go to France. I'm studying in Paris. My sophomore year in college, it's summer. And I find this brochure.

And it was for him and his brother playing guitar at some event in Germany. And on the back, there was a phone number. So I fucking go to the pay phone. I know nobody. I'm bored as fuck. I'm in Paris. I don't know what I'm doing there. I call the number.

I meet up with this guy. He is like a different person. I suddenly find him hot. I feel like he's been through war. He's just so worldly. I fall madly in love with him. Okay? I end up having a long distance relationship with him.

I go back to UCLA. I decide that I hate my country. And that, you know, like I just want to live like a broader life. Acting is not for me. It's just, it's too vapid and whatever. And I graduate college of you early and I go in. I live with his family in Germany. They don't speak any English.

I end up going to, I study German in like a language school in Heidelberg. And by the end of my time there, I went from being like this sweet, you know, docile, easy to get along with. Machen to like, I'm like, this is who I really am. I can fully communicate. I'm now in this weird dynamic with him. How long are you there for? Less than six months. And it's the first time I was living in a house with like a mom and a dad. So for me, it was everything I'd ever dreamed of. I felt like so. happy and at peace and it was just like it was such a healing experience that then when I came back to LA because of course I was like okay now I have to go get famous this isn't enough for me I leave and I get Mr. Teets my deceased first husband my poodle and I start speaking German to him because like all of my terms of endearment were like in German and it was just my way of like

you know it was just this bonding sort of thing I had with the dog so I was this weird girl who drive around L.A. in a car that I steered mainly with my knees. I would eat like carblyte yogurt all day, go on auditions, and speak German to this poodle. So then when I met Jason, he was, you know. Carblight yoga was all I was eating at a time. Was that what is called? I had an eating disorder and was basically like I would eat carblyte yogurt, lots of cauliflower and broccoli. I mean, it was like a weird time. Wait, that's farty though. I probably had tons of gas. But I was like young and cute, so people overlooked it, I guess. And. And cut to years later, when we had Sid, I was like, I'm going to teach him German.

I'm going to speak German to him. And it just so happened that we, you know, had moved to New York. There was a German immersion school. And so, again, I leaned in so hardcore. Wait, they go to a German. They went to German immersion. Sid did first grade in German. Wait, Sid's German.

Jason, you bringing this to the table. Yeah. The random German thing. He's like, so my kids speak German because you once fucked a German guy. But then guys, again, lean in your. And he's into it now. Listen, when the gorgeous, perfect super model of the world, Miranda Care has a brand. I want it.

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So for those that don't know, Jenny is not only a writer, you're also in the industry. You are. You're having a show now. I have a show, yeah. What's this show that you're doing with Jason? It's called Dinner and a Movie. That's an old school thing brought back. Yes. Where you're doing what?

Did you ever see Mystery Science Theater? It's like that where we pop on in between the movie to comment on it, to interview somebody from the film, to play a game. What movies have you done? Guardians of the Galaxy, minions. were doing the Meg, we're doing Goonies. Are you choosing the movies? No, they chose.

Okay. And are these all movies you've seen? Most of them. Oh, really? Most of them. Okay. Okay. I also recently found out

you were in an episode of suits. Yeah. Did you mean Meg? Do you know that story? No. Is it in a book? Okay, let me just tell you. I tested for suits.

I signed the contract to be Megan Merkel. No. I was called after the movie. the screen test. After, like, I signed my deal, I thought it was like a done deal. And they called and they basically said to me, no, you know, unfortunately, we're starting all over again. We're changing this up. Blah, blah, blah, whatever. So they went back to the drawing board. My contract ripped up. Then I got a call on there. They were like, can you come in and do this guest star? She was lovely. I love everybody involved. Everybody who worked on the show. It was great.

But I always said, Jason, I could have been a princess, Jason. I would have been a princess because whoever got suits would marry the throne was she nice and jason likes to say to me jenny we were married when you tested for suits and i said it doesn't matter does not matter oh you were i still would have landed harry i mean you you got married to jason three months after meeting him wild yeah you were that in love not three months after meeting him i got pregnant three months after meeting him i married him legally nine months later but you eloped and then we're And then we, yeah, we eloped to the side of the road. Three months after you.

Three months after we met, we were doing ecstasy. I was like at the W hotel. I got pregnant. Took a morning after pill and was still pregnant, guys. Let's just like put that out there. Wait, that's it. You should always take your morning after pill immediately. No, I had a miscarriage.

Oh, okay. Thank God. Right. In some way. Right. But I did feel trapped. I would have like, I was like, you cannot hijack up my life. my life. I'm 28 years old. I'm a

child. I can't. Who are you even? Wait, but you married. And he's like, I thought you loved me. The minute I was pregnant, I was like, you know, like when you turn over and you're like, wait, what the fuck am I doing here? Wait, but you did get married even though. Yes, because it really bonded us. I think I'm so afraid of

commitment in general that I needed something like that to happen to sort of galvanize the whole process. It bonded us. It bonded you. Yeah. It really bonded us. So then how, what year was that? It was a same.

So how old? It's 16 years ago. 16 years ago. Yeah. Okay. So I have a bunch until you, no, you, but you waited until having Cid for like 10 more years. I waited. Yeah.

Right? Six who said. I waited five years before I had Cid. Five, six years. Right. Yeah. Wait. How old is Sid?

10. Oh, 10. Yeah. That's wild. Yeah. Yes. I'm just remembering Jenny said the most fucked up thing to me yesterday we were talking about. What did I say?

Oh, God. I'm scared. Your audience is like, who the fuck is this weird out? So I think we're talking about like my baby. Yes. Like me having a baby. And, oh, you were asking like, how's Noah with it? Something like that.

How's my older kid? And then you asked me like, wait, have you seen the movie fear? And I thought this was like, this is. Not fear. Fear. Is it fear? Yeah. Oh yeah. And then Mark Wahlberg. Right. And I thought this was like a sidetracked question. Like I didn't think it related to what we're talking about. So I was like, yeah, where he fingers her on the Ferris wheel. Yeah. We were like, yeah, that's how Sid is with me. Oh my God. And day one. And I literally lost it because who would give that analogy? It was scary. His obsession with me was like to a point I've never experienced you guys. And I love for people to be obsessed with me. But this was not. This was like a scary like let the right one in.

type of like sketch type of way. Even before. Okay. No, Sid has always just been so intense on me. Really? Sid and Jenny four and then EVA, Eva. You know, like Mark, he wrote it on his chest. Yeah.

He sat outside Reese Withersman's house beating his chest. And when I had Laslo, I was telling you that we were in the cab and Laslo was like in his little bassinet thing, whatever device. And I glance over and Sid just looks at me. He's like, don't look at him. Like legit. Don't look at him. do not ever look at him so like that's been the relationship and he always says to me he's like

you loved me more before you had to love two people oh and i always say no i love you in a way that i'll never love him like it's your own what i have with you is just about you oh nobody can come between that yeah what i have with laslo is just about him and then sid yes is lazle a german name it's hungarian oh where did you get that from so we were at the german school school. And a woman, a kid was walking up the stairs with a backpack and it said Laslo was embroidered on the back. And I had no idea. I don't know if you feel this way, but like once you name one, if you don't have like two separate sex children, it's hard. Naming becomes tricky because you have your favorite name. And then you've already given somebody that. Right.

So then you're like, fuck, what goes with that? What else is as cute as that? I picked the name already. Yeah. I couldn't think about, I couldn't think of a name. And this kid was walking up the stairs and it said, Laslo spelled the Hungarian way, which has like an S, it's an S-Z. And I thought, oh, Laslo, that's cool.

And it just stuck in the back of my head. And when we got to the hospital, I still didn't know his name, had him. And I kept coming back. I was like, Laslo, Laslo, Lasz. And I ended up, and my nanny, she's Hungarian.

So I was like, I really love that name, Laslo. Is it like a common name there? Very common. Oh, okay. So there is. It's like Mark. But it's spelled, yeah, it's like Mark.

It's like Larry. But I was so unsure of myself as I was leaving Lennox Hill. I was scanning the doctor's names. You know how they're like engraved on the wall? I was like, is there a better name before I leave? Oh my God. Jenny, I did the same thing with like I went to visit like a camp for Noah and like I saw the kids cubbies and I was like, again, like anywhere there were names.

But I was saying this on my birth pod because I did like a solo pod about my birth. and I was saying about the name because someone people were like, where's the name from? Like, Lenny, my son's name. And I was like, literally people think that there's like a huge story. And it was literally like, I was trying to decide on a name, going through a list of names. That one came up. I liked it.

And I liked that one more than I liked any other one, you know? And then you keep on coming back to it. Someone's like, oh, what about this? And they're like, like, Lenny Moore. You know, that's kind of how, that's like a, I feel like the most common. way to choose a name. You find one that you like in some way. And you're like, if I find something better, I'll go with it. But if not, I'm sticking to this. How did you decide the first time? So I had Noah that like you said, you have your favorite name. You knew you were going to

have a Sunday Noah. Right. Yeah. Like I had, I had on my iPhone like notes like girl names, boy names. And it's crazy because my girl names were like so long. I was like Anna, Elsa, Ella. Like I had so many. And boy, I just had Noah. Always. Always. I mean, it wasn't for years. I'm not one of those. But it was like the last, you know, since I started keeping baby names. And did your husband have any say? Because Jason really had, I mean, he thought he had say, but really.

Well, he did because he actually loved Noah with me. And then with Lenny, we went through all the, like, American names list. And like, any, and what's funny is Lenny is from a Hebrew name list. Yes. So he's the one, he's like, do you remember that it was me? I was like, yeah, we'll give you credit. So he was the one reading this Hebrew name list to me, like Avraham. this i was like no no and he's like lenny and i was like oh so he actually is the one who like

read it and then we both liked it the most so i think it's like that like it happens to so many people there's a name that you're like oh i like that the most right now and you're open to to finding another doctor's name or yeah you're open to it but you're like no nothing else really lands but what about because he lived there for a while israel yeah so i'm sure he knew other lenny's no he didn't no you're lucky okay it's kind of of like it's not as common it's not common okay here's the thing with us we always have to think about israel and here yes because like i don't want a name to not make sense there or like them not be able to say it so lenny is easy because it's like no yeah you know but what about noa did he know

other noah well there it's noah noah which i wouldn't want so i kept it noah uh-huh you know what i mean yes yes anyway well you i get what you're where you're going you're going with when you're thinking of names or people that you would know that you wouldn't want to use the name because yeah well that's why you did Laslo yeah laslo I didn't know any just the little kid walking with his backpack yeah wait Jenny okay another thing is about your kids you emoji them so right

yeah I'm so afraid what do you I don't want to show my kids I also like I'm 45 years old and still think I'm gonna be kidnapped I'm like I'm a mark people want to take me it's like so narcissistic but like what kind of fucking like what's wrong with me right but I am so scared to show my children yeah it's paranoid because of fame or do you think you would be scared even if you no I don't think no sometimes people are like do you think you're that big of a deal do you think anyone gives a fuck about what your kids look like it's not that no it's because I was I grew up in the 80s watching after school specials where I was told that like everybody wants to take a kid

put it in a windowless van sell it into sex slates like these are the things that go just like on like a loop in my mind and I can't show my kids I just I can't do it I can't advertise do you see yourself ever tearing them when they're old enough maybe I mean I really feel like I towed the line major with this like video I made for Father's Day for Jason on my Instagram why are they they're in it but they're a lot younger but like the best part for me about Laslo was when he was ahead I had had lived that with Sid right so it's like he's just head. I can show him because he's not leaving the house as a head. He's going to look so different. He's six months. Right. He'll be a kid. Right. So I got to really flot him as like a,

you know, as a head. Oh, so if people were following you then. Then they got to see a lot of Laslo's face as a baby. Because I was like, you'll never fucking know what he turns into. I know. Wait, can we talk about before I want us to go into some fun celeb stuff? But hold on. Are you not afraid showing your kids? I don't want you to scare me now. But no, I'm not. But do you want your kids to be able to walk to the park and someone to say, Oh, those are romantic kids? I hate that. But to me, I know that this is like naive, but I really feel like the people that follow

would be like, they're so excited when they see Noah in this cute way. You know, like, oh, Noah, you know, it's not. But doesn't, don't you think it gives him mixed signals of somebody knowing his name, like the mind fuck of that as well? Yeah. Sometimes he is, he's like, is that mommy's friend? Like, if people say hi. Yes, no.

I say yes. It's funny because his older cousin, one day I was like, his older cousin was like, who is that when somebody said hi? And I was like, you know how you know blippy? Yeah. And if you saw blippy, you would say hi. Yeah. I was like, I'm blippy. I'm blippy.

This reminds me of that like one clip I ever saw like I've never seen the Kardashians, but this one clip I saw were Kim Kardashian is like, I'm Kim Kardashian to her daughter and that like tripped me the fuck out. No, she was like, right. I'm Kim Kardashian and your dad is Kanye West. Right. Like, no.

Wait, I was going to ask you something else. I said one more thing before we get into this love stuff. I'm going to start emojiing your kids' faces. Did I get you off track? Did I shame you about the kids? You did. I don't want to scare you. You didn't.

Except that I do. No, you didn't. Somehow I don't, I don't, I'm like, you know. Yeah. I'm optimistic and positive about that stuff. But I want to talk to you about the story that is running wild in Hollywood right now. I don't know if you heard about it. Tell me.

it has to do with poop did this story get to you i heard like okay i heard like well let's talk about it without without names just for a second okay you guys there's a story running i can't believe it's out i thought this was like no this is everywhere oh how funny this is everywhere somehow there was there was a blind that i think on dumois or something oh man or like a tweet that was like i didn't know that this was like oh no it's gone wide no so there was a story about somebody going to Gwyneth Paltrow's house having side effects of Zempeg and

shitting all over the house, okay? No, but there's more deep. Did you, wait, so wait, but let's, that was what was out there, like in tweets and Dumas and whatever. Then I saw, like, people post, like, normy people, I saw them being like, I need to find out who this celebrity is

that, like, shot all over Gwen's out. Yeah. And I'm literally at that point being like, what is the story? Like, this is such a weird story. And also, like, I need to know more about shitting. Like, you can't make it to the back. Like, that's those Zempic shits.

Like, you shit all over a house. You can't even make it to a bathroom. Well, the worst part about that. I mean, how much do you know about this story? I know, I think, everything. But I don't know how much we want to tell them. Yeah, okay. Okay.

Let's keep it like, like, what's out there is that. What's out there? Okay. What's out there is what I told you. That's it. Somebody, said to Guenas, had side effects of Ozempic, shot all over. then it made it to the blinds of who could this be?

Now let's step back for a second. We know as people of the world, not of like the insider info that you have and that I have, that if it got out, it got out, you know, like when it told this story. Oh, everybody there knew.

Everybody there, everybody there. But it was also like very like, I mean, a lot of people were brought in because of how it all went down. Of how much poop there was to clean up. But wait, there was a cleaning lady. So just the cleaning lady should have known. Like in a perfect world.

She and Gwen, first of all, are like very close friends. So it's not like it was just like some random like staff member. But how did it get out to Dumois? Do you know what I mean? How did it get out to the world? Well, don't say. But let's talk about it. You're so bad at this.

I'm bad at this. Yes. Let's talk about. In theory. In theory. Because you guys, think about how wild this is. somebody shits in his friend's apartment. It gets out to the world.

Also, don't feel bad because nobody knows who's this, who this is. Okay, okay. That's listening. Okay. We're not going to tell them who this is. Okay. Also, no one would care about this person that's listening. Yeah.

It's not like it's like Madonna was shitting at like when it's. No, no, no. It's not that interesting. It's not such an interesting. Yes. No. But it's embarrassing as fuck to be that person right now in the industry because everyone knows.

But the way that they handle it, I felt like, was so, like, brazen and cavalier and sort of like not giving a fuck that like that person deserves it i kind of feel i mean i kind of feel like it like it was not handled appropriately yeah it was sort of like these people will handle this uh-huh if that if i did that at somebody's house i would be mortified and like want to make it better and never leave it for like some like someone else who worked there to deal with that is just like not okay i can't believe this is a story running wild in hollywood right now you guys if you want to look deeper into it someone shattle over Guinez Perlchel's house.

And literally, every, were ruined. And everyone in Hollywood knows about it, you guys. And not that people would shame like a pooper, but like you're saying, there's more detail that goes into this that, like, makes this pooper, like, not a good person for the way that it went about. It was not okay. Which we won't tell the whole thing because, but it's wild.

Just imagine you pooped all over Guinez Petro's probably gorgeous white linen house. And then you, like, leave 20 bucks on your sheets and walk away from them. Like, imagine. And imagine you are. And that's your friend. And Gwen is your friend. Well, she's not anymore. No, exactly.

She's not anymore because you pooped all over her house. I mean, what a story. She would be. No, I know, I know. She's goop. Like, she would have accepted poop. She would have totally handled that, like, and helped you. She probably would have cleaned it up with you.

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like behind the ear and he's just like no like talking to him and clawing him weird do you see the video okay why would she do this i i'm wondering i think she's just a warm i think she's just like a drew barrymore you know okay i don't think so did you see paul missal i've been in the biz a long time and i'm telling you i've never heard she's a warm drew barry more oh oh i heard that too no but i don't want to believe it okay this is a breakie story today, which I feel bad about. You know, Paul Muscali, he's a super hot actor.

He was just a Glatz, been Glastonbury at that festival, and he's like having fun, and he was caught on camera doing some drugs. Okay. But like straight out of it, like a little key. And like, it's on camera, it's in the sun, it's in like, and I don't think the people care about it. Yeah.

But how old is he? Like, he's no, he's like 30, probably like 27. Who's not doing drugs at that age? No, but it sucks that were at a time that you can't just like do drugs, you know, that you have to be filmed and it be posted like everyone was doing drugs in the 90s and like, you know. Everyone's still doing drugs. I guess everyone's still doing drugs.

Up until a certain age, I feel like, yeah. I know, but like he was standing in the crowd just like straight up and it got caught on video. Do you think he cares? Like I'm just trying to think like I feel bad for him that the people won't care. No one's going to be like he's a bad role model and I'm not going to be a fan. But it just sucks that, like, there's a video of you doing drugs. I would rather a video of me doing drugs than, like, you know, like, when Hugh Grant, like, got caught, like, getting a blowjob in his car from that, like, prostitute years ago. Like, I think, I don't know.

Like, it's not that bad. No. Like, you're not going to get hired for a movie. No, like when he's in his 40s and people Google him, I don't think they're going to give a shit. That he did that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.

What do you think about Lindsay Lohan is having. a huge comeback right now. Okay. She's going to be in Freaky Friday, too, with Jamie Lee Curtis. I'm happy for her. Okay. So here's a thing about Lindsay Lohen. Everyone's happy for her.

Yeah. There's sometimes a consensus with celebs. Yes. And she's a consensus where, like, everyone is cheering for Lindsay. Everyone wants her to get it. Why do you think? She's beloved. I mean, because I think that her issues also, it was just sad.

She's such a, she's so talented, first of all. Yeah. And. But do you think still? Do you think she still has the same, like, well, I think, I hope. Yeah. I hope. I can't get her, like, Abu Dhabi video out of my head.

I understand. I understand. I understand. You know what I mean? I just like, I'm not angry at her for the Abu Dhabi video. I'm just like, are you back for real? Yeah. Like, what's your head space, you know?

But that was Brittany, too. Don't you feel like we were like, is she? Yes, but that's the thing. I thought that's where it was going. What do we do now for Brittany? What do we do? How do you guys a wild, like, thing about Brittany? Okay, again, I need to say this without spilling all the tape.

Can you have Britney on? That would, do you know when people ask what my dream is? That's my dream. And I know it won't happen. Like, I'm all about manifesting. Why? Because I don't think she'll ever speak again. And it's so fucking sad to me.

Just a dance video with her. So here's the thing about the dancing. I literally heard, and I'm going to say this with, this is 100% true. I just won't give all the details. So I'm not like fully disclosing everything. But I literally recently heard. that she was supposed to go to some event. Okay.

And be at this event that would be like publicized and probably like people would have been excited to see her there. And literally on the way out, this is a quote, she caught a vibe dancing with her gardener. And she had glamor ready and she had everything. But she caught a vibe. Again, a quote,

caught a vibe dancing with her gardener and didn't end up coming. I'm obsessed. You would be obsessed. I would be like, you know what? That would be you. I totally get it. Like dancing with the Gardner? I fucking love her.

This is why I love her. Like she's a woman of the fucking people. No, but Jenny, she's not. Like, you know the truth. You know that she's like the most unwell like one could ever be. No, she's not well. But I love that she. Yeah, that's a funny.

Yeah. Connected like that. It is. But like that's a thing. Is she my dream guest? Yes. I really feel like when she came out with the book, in my mind, I was like she's going to do some press.

Like we know, you know how a book tour works and right. She didn't do one thing. And it's like, my God, she should have called me. You would have had her book everywhere. I would have gotten it everywhere. Okay, so you're excited about Lindsay Lowen's comeback. Okay, another comeback that I'm obsessed with right now is Josh Hartnett. Oh, weird.

But he's like, is he hot? You don't remember him? Well, no, is he hot now? Yes. He was like in Oppenheimer. Okay. He was in the Baronhouse season three. he's like getting all these like moments yeah Josh Hartnett and he's like our like blast

right but he's he's current now you think that I could get this to happen for Jason how are you making this about Jason right now well you know I mean I'm a blast from the past I'm a Mienta I'm a mom I'm a Jewish mother and I want to listen is a blast from the past well Jason's very 90s I guess was American Pie 90s or end of the 90s well I just was the first one. I just read that you didn't even watch it until like... How did that fucking become a story suddenly? I don't know.

Like, Jason was like gasped that his wife and she was horrified when she saw it. No, I was just like in college. But everyone watched it. I know, but I was a theater major. I was watching foreign films. I was just, I thought I was like better than that. But you knew him. I knew who he was.

Yeah. Yeah. Yes. I wonder, do you think if he would have watched it, you would have been like, I'm going to marry that guy. You know, it's so funny. because I do remember seeing a trailer for eight below in the theater. And I was like, who's not feeding Jason Biggs? He looked so gaunt and emaciated in that movie.

They wanted to feed him. And I was like, somebody really needs to, like, feed that guy. Yeah. And then, yeah. And then he became me. Is he eating salads with you and peppers? I have to make him all sorts of things now. Yeah.

Actually, he just hosted a baking show, and I was telling him the other day. He's, like, in great shape right now. So I felt like it was finally time to break the news. he came back from this fucking baking show he was like i don't know pounds heavier he was like 20 pounds heavier 20 i was seriously like wait my jaw fell open when i saw him no i of course i couldn't tell him when he first came back but he was like hi honey it was so scary i'm like what the fuck did you eat up there and he said he tasted everything and he's like actually wasn't even my job to taste everything but like when it would come out

like I really wanted to be invested in who was the best baker and I'm like wait would you care if he was like dad bod? No Jason was a dad bod for years he's like just now gotten like on Lake again no just like thinner and I'm actually competitive I don't want him to ever look better than me in like a bikini I mean that would be disturbing so no you know you know what's funny has why would you I want a guy hotter than him and I'm like I'm not like I don't care like he did a juice cleanse I posted about it. this he did a juice cleanse you guys when I was two weeks postpartum yeah he didn't see how

that was ridiculous yeah yeah yeah men sometimes don't see he's like what I just heard about this juice cleanse and I'm like I am literally yeah a thousand pounds and you're fucking throwing it in my cleanse I'm not I need to eat for this baby to live and you're like losing five pounds in a day he really didn't see how it was like a kick in the balls yeah like men and he was like you know And I'm like, I'm not competitive with you. I'm just like, who would do this? This is out of a fucking movie. I'm so competitive with Jason.

Really? Mm-hmm. But he's competitive with me. Like, we also both want to be the best parent. Like, the funniest videos I think on my Instagram are like when I'm racing Jason to get somewhere to like be the first one that Sid C's like a race or school. But you said to me, you said to me something funny. You were like, Jason's the mom. He is.

And I'm a really good dad. Yeah. I'm an amazing working father. That's such a funny thing. Full-time working dad. Yeah. Okay. Another thing I wanted to ask you about is, okay, everywhere, literally the media is going wild with saying that Jen and Ben, that's it.

They're done. They've been living separately. Yeah. It's sad, right? It's so sad. I was also rooting for them. Yeah. I mean, I root for love.

You're like, you know, put aside that if you love them. you hate them. This is a couple that was together 20 years ago. Why do you think it didn't work out? The second time? I don't fucking know. I don't want to believe it. I'm such an idealist that I could be like,

the press is lying, even though we know like where there's smoke, there's fire. Like this wouldn't be. Separate places all the time. He's also. And they sold their house. Right.

And that's public information. I'll tell you what. I think that he's like tortured. Have you guys seen like interviews with him recently and things, like, he's on one a little bit. Like, he's not the Ben that I would hope for him to be. I thought that he was, like, clean and, like, doing great. No, well, I'm not saying that it's alcohol or related.

Oh, okay. Even though there are probably rumors if that's the reason or this is the reason. But more so, like, he just seems like, maybe he needs, like, somebody, like, not famous. You know, like, he doesn't like fame. Yeah, and he's going for these women. He's, right. So it's like, and J-Lo? Yeah.

It's true. Maybe it's that. Maybe he was like, I can't deal with this again. Like, he hates me on red carpets. He hates being at events. He hates me. I love all these pictures of him where he's just a disaster. Obsessed.

Obsessed. Obsessed. My favorite memes. No. Obsessed. You know, like he's. He's such a mood. He's such a mood.

Because it's boring probably being at these events. It is boring. Yeah. Wait. Oh, wait. Oh, wait. Oh, no. I know.

Talk about your acting. Okay. So tell this story. They need to know. No, this is a good. story. I think we might just be obsessed with it though. Oh, it's know everyone. You love this story for some reason. So I

got a little cameo in a movie I didn't tell you guys about. But like when I say a little cameo I mean literally, I'm like a leaf in the wind. Like, the leaf blowing outside of the house. I am going to watch this over and over on repeat. I can't wait. So I was asked by actually someone that was on my podcast

if I'd like a little boop in the movie. A famous woman. A famous woman. That's it. You're doing moi now. You're dropping me. I love her, by the way. I know you do. She's like, she's like, she's, I love her.

Yeah. You have to choose. I'm, no, I'm just kidding. You were demois, I have to choose. Oh, my God. So as to, like, do you want to do this? Do you want to pop in? Yeah.

I was like, yeah. And then it actually happened. Because you guys know that Amanda did want to be an actress for a while and used to send headshots of herself from Israel. You do love this story too. There are stories that you love. Send headshots of herself to just, America. Anyone who would submit. Any place that said no solicited. Yeah. I solicited. Pixelated, printed out.

With fake resumes. I'm having done. With fake resumes that I went to Juilliard. No joke. So I was offered to pop in. But seriously, I was like, cool experience in and out. Yeah. You know. And you guys, I went to this day, which is so nice that things that are offered to you like actually happen. Right. So many times we're like, oh, we should do. And this happened. Like I was, I got a call sheet. I got all the things. You were in hair and makeup in a honey wagon. I know. They did me really a favor.

I got the wagon. I got the trailer. Yeah. The hair and makeup. All these things that made me feel like I'm the star of the film. Yes. I love this. I love this shit.

This is so good. Any actor listening right now is eating this shit up. So I'm like, I get a trailer. I'm taking pictures of me and the trailer. There's a bathroom. My name is on it. Uh-huh. You know, I go to the hair and makeup.

I go to the costumes. and they're taking my costume so seriously. Uh-huh. You know, which jacket? A thousand different jackets we're trying on. I brought my own options. Maybe she's more comfortable in her own clothes, you know. Oh, my God.

This is so good. All these things. Oh, by the way, you guys, I'm 30 weeks pregnant. Okay. So all this to finally get on set at, I don't know. I arrived there at 7 a.m. Got on set at maybe like noon. Exactly.

Thank you. And how many hours was I a leaf in the wind? let's say for seven more hours. So I was there for 12 hours of the day. Yep. Freezing on the Brooklyn Bridge, shivering with heat warmers in my pocket, burning like little patches onto your skin that you're trying to keep warm. And you guys, if we're going to laugh so hard when we see me, when we see me, we might not see me.

I might have to say, you guys, that's the most embarrassing. see i hate getting cut out of a movie it is so embarrassing i don't think she would do that to me at this point you know i hope that does not happen no she's you know what's bad about that your name is still in the credits so literally i'm gonna fucking i'm gonna laugh about this so hard with my audience like i'm gonna tell them yeah see that piece of hair in the far back that i worked for 12 hours pregnant freezing and amanda calls me and goes this is the hard job I've ever had. Jenny, podcasting. I don't know why

you're bitching about a podcast. It's true. So that week, actually, you guys, I had such a busy week. I had, like, interviews and podcasts and, like, I had so much. And I could not, and I'd be, and my mom would be like, how are you? Because I was pregnant, too. So it was more like, she must be tired. And I was

like, no day will be as hard as that day. So all to say, and why Jenny loves a story is because as much as you guys hear, and you said this to me, When I talked to you about it, you were like, that's how they get famous people. Like, okay, what did you say? You said, like, the job, it wasn't because I'm Amanda.

People were actually really nice to me. I was treated like I was a star. So, like, that's how Jason would be on set. Like, he would be working those hours. He would be, but he would just get the perks that you were talking about. Yeah. That make people think it's, like, glamorous. Yeah.

And, like, but it's not. It's not. acting sucks guys to really tell you the truth acting sucks you're literally you're stuck there all day you're servicing somebody else's material you're really just like

a mannequin that like walks and talks and they're setting up the shot it's not an acting and you're peeing in a porta potty if you're if you're filming outside like everybody else TV it's not an actor's medium you want to like have control over your whatever do a play but like if you're on

if you're on film your service it's the director it's the it's other people it's it's a whole production and you're but it's also hard but it's not even the cog it's actually it's a lot of long hours weather yeah yeah could be really bad oh yeah you could be standing like zendaya has to stand for hours for hours no for hours but she just what you were saying that made sense right but you were saying what made sense is like zendaya has to stand for hours and do all the shit. But then she's like on the red carpets and getting the glam and the things and whatever that the makers. Tricks you into thinking, oh, I love this job. Yeah. It's like no. The actual work is like pretty like, I mean, it's not glamorous. Where you said it's like blue collar. Yeah. It's like

you're like in like the wherever weird city and you're, you know, have to like stand around all day in shitty food, walk back and forth like in a circle. Say the same thing over and over again. Again, I was treated very nicely. Like, I got to sit in the director's chair and watch the screen. Like, they made me feel the most comfortable you could feel. And I could still complain. Now, imagine working. So imagine doing that for, like, every day.

I know. But if I got the, like, accolades and the fame. You'd feel good about it? I could be tricked, probably. I could be tricked. Yeah, I could be easily tricked. Oh, my God. Yeah.

I was taking pictures of the trailer. But yeah, by the end of the day, I might have not cared. it's just I was like oh this coffee is gross you know yes it's mind-numbing and then you're just like stuck there yeah stuck until they say you can leave you're so into this story jenny why if i just like go analyze you before we go because you're like finally someone sees that you're like fuck that industry kind of thing but i just worked on a movie last week like i still get stuck back in i just i guess i love i am all about people like maybe you're like rationalizing to yourself why you prefer for doing other things.

I want people to take control of their lives. I don't like people feeling like, I want people to know that it's like, that isn't the only way to be a creator. And I think that I wish that somebody had told me sooner. So I feel like it's my job to like want people. Not to do it. Well, no, I'll still do it sometimes.

But it's just like, I say to my kids, I'm like, you cannot just be an actor. You can't just like wait for somebody else. Well, just in case. I'm already laying the groundwork. Oh, no, you might do the opposite if you fucking talk about that too much. Well, I always say that to Deb Levy, Eugene's wife. Because I always say to her, I'm like, Deb, you kind of, like, did it perfectly.

You, like, talked so much shit about acting that then, and told your kids like how, like, I don't know. It's hard. And then, look, they, like, succeeded because you were, like, negging them forever. I love Deb. She's amazing. No, that's amazing. But I'm saying Eugene played Jason's dad in American Pie. And somehow you're all still, like, in touch?

Yes. Really? Yeah, and I think she did the best job with her kids because she was almost like, you know, did you see the David Beckham documentary? Yeah. You know how David Beckham's dad, like, never let him score a shot? He was kind of like always like hard on him. Yeah.

Well, that's how you have to be. And Deb was that way to her kids and that's why they're good. And they're good. She was never like me where I'm like, you're amazing. Oh my God, you're beautiful. You did perfect. Right. You know, my sister-in-law and I go to like one of Laslo's like fake soccer games,

like two lesbian moms were like, he got the ball it's like we fucking like just gas him up you know Jerry Seinfeld Jerry Seinfeld said in an interview and I love Jerry Seinfeld he said like you can't worship your kids and I'm like oh my god if you can then I'm screwed you know I know I'm like you're the best most talented most smartest you know like and I think that is great because that's how I have confidence yeah so there must be something there yes yes there might be a few methods though work and just a few methods

and fuck them out. Totally. Jason thinks that my dad gave me way too much confidence. Yeah? He's like, I mean, when I met you,

I've never met somebody who thought they were like such the shit. Okay, before we go, we have to plug all Luann de Lisseppe's projects going on. Oh my God, no.

So Jenny has a lot going on right now. You have your new pod, all the fails. I do have all the fails. And I love you as an interviewer. Oh, thank you. Your softness.

also comes out there. Oh, thank you. Yeah, you're so, like, maternal in your interviews. Oh, my God. Thank you. So all the fails, your pod. You just decided to sell clothes. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. Selling. You found out you had a thousand Chanel bags. You don't know what to do with. Yeah. You're selling a lot of vintage for charity. Actually, the coolest thing I'm doing now. For $5,000, you can send a kid to four years of college in Kenya.

And four years of. high school and the first year of college. So that's my next raise. And I was reading, honestly, it will kill you. I made Sid read all of their applications last night. And the little girl's like, my father beat my mother and I have no father. And it's like, this is so heavy before bed, mom. Because I want them to appreciate their lives.

Yeah. So there's an Instagram for it. Yes. The shirts off my back. Yeah. And it's all designer that like has a charitable twist. Is all of it shit that you owned? It used to be.

But I ran out of shit in my closet. Right. So now I like source shit, which is hard. It takes up a lot of my time. Yeah. It's hard being like a wheeler and dealer. But now I am basically selling rugs in a Berber market. Legit.

No, you are something else. Is there anything else? Oh, the show. Yes. When is the air? It's on. It's on every Saturday night on TVS. Every Saturday on TVS, baby.

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