Not Skinny But Not Fat - IG Lives, Tik Toks & Other Quarantine Trends w/ Maggie Coughlan (Page Six)

Episode Date: April 7, 2020

Hashtag quarantine week 398. This week, editorial director of Page Six, Maggie Coughlan, comes on to discuss the most dense quarantined celebs rn, and the new trends brought on by this post apocalyptic reality we’re living in. We also recap VPR and chat about the new season of KUWTK & RHONY.  The Not Skinny But Not Fat Podcast is produced by The Podglomerate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Today I have with me, well, not with me because, you know, social distancing. Maggie Coglin, the friggin editorial director of page six, that's a hell of a title. I'm pretty gel. It's a hell of a job. It was previously one of the most fun jobs in New York when you could go out to all the fabulous events that we cover. It's currently still a great job. I'm just missing, seeing all of our fun and fabulous people that we cover.

And you are also like, like, I met you because we did a podcast for The New York Post. Like, I wouldn't look at you right away and say, this bitch loves, like, you know, celebs and she's like as superficial and shallow as I am because you don't look at it. Well, thank you. And I think that is what my secret sauce is, you know? Like I look a little more low-key than a lot of the people. I cover, and I think that's why it works. You know, I'm just having fun with it, looking for a great story. I love stories and storytelling and page six. We have so much great, great, like, deep cuts of New York and celebrities. And for me, regardless of, like, how much I actually care about these people, it's fascinating as just a study. And, you know, I was saying this when I came on the New York Post podcast, like, what an honor was for me, because, like, for people that have always loved celebrity gossip, and not only since you could find them on Instagram

and, you know, Twitter and now fucking TikTok, but New York Post and specifically page six is like the Mecca and the mama and Papa of all things, celebrity gossip, especially in New York, like all the freaking housewives of New York getting on page six, that's like the talk, right? That's like on page six. Like you had an article, you were on the cover of page six.

I will just like to say it's an honor to be on your podcast, now. Thank you so much for having me. You're keeping me so entertained during this quarantine. Now I have time to watch every single bit of your Instagram stories at a time. When last time I will confess I was watching maybe 30 to 50 percent. Now I am going to completion. But yeah, page six is an institution. The Post was founded in 1801. It's incredible to be a part of and just to try to bring our readers the best stories, the juiciest scoops, the best exclusives. And now that we have our podcast, We hear, we have like a ton of great videos, we're trying to really cater to our audience.

And every time the housewives bring us up, it feels great. It's amazing to hear your brand spoken about on television. That is amazing. And I want to talk about and jump right in to celebs in quarantine right now. I don't want to, of course, we could talk about coronavirus, which like I call it coronavirus only because COVID-19 stresses me out more. So we're going to make people take their mind off of it and just talk, you know, what we love to talk about. But this quarantine is also, do you feel like work is slower? Like, I need some Haley Bieber paparazzi shots.

I need to see what she's wearing to the spa. You know what I mean? Like how I, no one's walking around aside from Ben Affleck and Anna de Armas. Like, I need something. They're the only one still fucking taken trolls. I will say that I feel like work is really busy for us now because celebrities love to entertain. They need us.

They're like Tinkerbell and we need to clap. So they are posting tons and tons of stuff looking for an audience, looking for us to cover and make these phone calls. So while you're not seeing every celebrity, you know, leaving Craigs, we are seeing the inside of people's houses, which to me is like just as thrilling.

Or like their second houses. Yes. I don't know she had a house in Malibu. I love knowing this because it's really kind of widening the gap between us and them. Like the whole celebrities are just like us, schick, was never true. You know what I mean? And now we're seeing it. Like it's cute that you're photographed at the grocery store, but coronavirus, you're not like us.

Right. I actually just put a post up today that it's like celebrities, we're all on the same boat. and then their boat is like this giant yacht and then my boat is like the birds the Sandra Bullock movie what was it called? Yes, bird box bird box, right. And I mean it's funny because on one hand a lot of people are saying

this and it is true about the coronavirus that obviously no one's immune to it we're all in the shit together on one hand but on the other hand obviously celebrities have more privileges aka Ariel Charnas who's like I guess an influence

influencer, a mega influencer. So I'd love to get your take on that whole thing because I don't follow Ariel Charnas. She's like, she's a, I would say, lifestyle influencer. She has a clothing. I guess she started as like fashion blogging and has a clothing line. And I always said that my like style of who I want to follow aren't really, really thin, really, really rich, really, really privileged people. Like, why?

What is it going to do for me? Is she going to make me laugh? Like, no. So that's not my style to follow from the get-go. But she got so much fucking shit because she was diagnosed with Corona. Obviously, she, like, hopped over to her, like, doctor who, like, gave it to her in her car. She then, like, was still with her kids. She then a week later was, like, doing TikToks.

A week and a half later, she was in the Hamptons strolling down the street with her nans. with her nanny. So she got a lot of shit and for people that really want to know, I want to get Maggie's take on it. But this writer, Sophie Ross, she did a fucking in-depth thread about it posting the whole timeline.

She's incredible. And it was really interesting. And not to hate An Ariel and say she's an awful person, but just she's kind of the face of like privilege in Corona right now. Yeah. And I mean, Corona has also brought

forth another topic, which is why certain people are able to get the test and others aren't. So, Ariel being this face of privilege, this woman who was able to get the test and Flea the Hamptons has raised a lot of questions, you know, why was she able where so many people are struggling to even get tested? I know. It's, it's, I get so many messages. I'm very like, just open, I post some Corona News from New York and, and how I'm feeling about it. And I get so many messages from even a fucking, you know, I'll give you the most extreme example of like a healthcare worker who's been exposed to corona positive patients and are ill and can't fucking get the test.

So that's where like, whoa, that's a huge disconnect. So, right, that brings up the testing thing. But then the, I mean, also traveling when, you know, if you were diagnosed with this, you have that and you are bringing it to another. area you know what she should have been doing is quarantining and then she's jeopardizing the health of her nannies and i don't know i mean i do think that sophy ross did a great great deep dive and it was like a moment where i was like this is exactly what twitter threads were designed for just like hit after hit date after date i felt like i was reading like a police blotter of all of these things but yeah i mean prior to this what did we know ariel charne us for instagram

something Navy, Nordstrom carrying it, and now Nordstrom has stopped. They're like, get us out of here. Someone said something, I guess, underneath commented on one of Ariel's photos where she was apologizing because now she's apologized and tried to explain her side of the story

because she has been getting trashed right now. So Nordrum literally was like, our partnership ended and like we don't see anything happening in the foreseeable ever. So it's like, okay, shake your hands clean of her. But I mean, listen, her apology where she was like wiping a non-existent tear is like kind of funny and easy to make fun of. And also, I don't know, I mean, you read Sophie Ross's deep dive, but her husband writing to someone that Cornell was his safety school. Her husband isn't helping her like PR right now, I think.

Right. And I mean, I think coronavirus is really kind of. of showing us who people really are, you know? It's easy to act properly when everything is going well. But when you are faced with a global pandemic, how you react is very important. And what you do with your 1.3 million person following is extra, extra important. Like just yesterday on page six, we had this story, these photographs of Jennifer Lopez and Alex Rodriguez leaving a gym in Miami. And I love J-Lo. She's incredible. She's a Bronx girl. I love that. You know, I'm from New York. But seeing her open a door, which so clearly had a sign that said, gym is closed, stay

home, stay healthy, it just really made me question why I'm a fan because she's not listening and she's not being responsible. And also question, like, don't you have equipment at your giant mansion, like on the water? Like, what was so urgent for you? And you're engaged to a man who played 22 seasons of professional baseball, and you mean to tell me, you can't do a sit-up in your house? Come on. I remember at the very beginning of this, one of my followers asked me, like, remember how everyone was kind of misusing the terminology between, like, isolating, quarantining, whatever. And someone was like, is that pissing you off? And I was like, no, because this is like a new thing and people don't know and don't know how to act.

And then flash forward two days later, I'm like, you're not quarantine. I'm like, I got pissed like a day later. Just because, you know, it became an excuse for celebrities to post naked pictures in the cooking and being like hashtag quarantine. And like that just felt so gross to me that, you know, quarantine run. quarantine walk. It was just like sickening. Like, stop. I'm all about escapism. I'm all about let's take a moment. Let's not think about it. Let's laugh. Or let's take a moment. Let's think about it. But it's not the time to like use it for like a clever

caption. That's not clever. If it was clever and funny, then it's excusable. But it's not like, it's not cute. You know what I mean? Yeah. And I think you're right. Like we didn't really know what this was going to be like. You know, I'm coming up on almost a month from working from home. Oh my God. I feel very lucky to be working and being in touch with our audience and our readers. But in week one, people were making jokes about quarantinis. Like, this is the drink you make when you're home. Ha, ha, ha. And now it's like, I don't even want to joke about it. Everyone's mental health is on the line because they're dealing with so much on a global scale. Yeah. And you're right that we're getting to see like the sides of celebrities that maybe we don't like. like I had to follow, unfollow Justin Beaver and not because he's, how he's handling it,

because I can't see the live notifications anymore. And he's going live. This is another thing. Like, Instagram Live has never been used until hashtag quarantine. Like, what is happening? The feature is. Stop popping up when I'm looking at other things. And you can't turn it off.

You can't turn it off. I tried. There is a place where. supposedly you can, like in settings, you can say turn off, but it doesn't turn them off in this weird way. Like, if you're in the app, it's going to pop up for you. The setting is not enough. I need to turn these people off for a few days. I just like need a break. Like they should be like, okay, on Monday, Justin Bieber, you can post between the hours of two and four. On Tuesday, Kim Kardashian, you have one to three. You know what I mean? Like, it's just too much.

And also, Justin, did you see that a girl was caught masturbating on his live? No. Oh, M.G. Louis. I didn't, uh, couldn't post the whole thing because I don't want to get deleted from Instagram. But legit, I'm going to DM it to you. Um, it's insane because legit he, I don't know how the feature works. I think someone calls in, but sometimes people call in by accident because it's just like a button that if you're watching the live, you can like call in. And legit this girl was on her bed masturbating to his live probably. These are real. And he's like, hello. Oh my God. And she rolls off the bed because it's like her only and he's like, hello. No, you don't understand how freaking crazy that is. And obviously you could see the person's handle who's joined the live. But aside from masturbating girl, I've, you know, accidentally tuned into his lives and just he is bringing on fans, which is really sweet.

And they're crying all over the world, getting to, you know, see him face to face. but it's not like interesting content. Do you know what I mean? It's like, Justin being like, hey, where are you from? Nicaragua? Cool. I think I was there once. Bye.

Peace and love. God bless. It's like that's not fun for the rest of us, you know? Yeah, yeah. I don't know. These truly, truly are unprecedented times. That's all I can say about everything. I know about these TikToks.

I mean, TikToks was getting big before, but, you know, hashtag quarantine has definitely caused a boom in people that are signing up that are like, what am I going to do now that I'm home? Duh, like dance to TikTok, follow me on TikTok. And like, by the way, I could never open a TikTok because I talk so much shit about it. What are your thoughts on adults dancing to things? Well, I do think for a lot of these people, it's a way to keep their children entertained so that I kind of get. But for me, it's like a cry for help. Like people just getting a TikTok, Everyone's become an influencer. Everybody wants to be like,

today I made toast. Here's my recipe. It's just like, I get it. I get it. You think you need an audience because you have no one else to see or talk to. But like, please, let's maintain some level of decorum. That's what I've always said. Like, for kids, it's amazing.

I think seeing adults on it is weird for me, especially like by themselves. Because you have to set up the camera. You have to go back. Like, first of all, I could never do that. because I need to know what I look like. You know, I can't like do this whole dance and flail around and then like, you know, hope that it was a good angle. Like, no, that's not going to work for me.

I'm learning so much from it, though. I'm like, okay, rhythm is apparently a gift that was not bestowed to everyone. That's a thing. If you are an amazing dancer, then fine. But listen, Hannah Ann, you are not. Listen, Maddie, you know, fucking Maddie from The Bachelor. You are not. And we don't want to see your dad in a TikTok with you.

It's like, you know, being just good looking and that used to be enough. Now you have to know how to dance. You have to have a recipe. You need a sourdough starter. It's like too much in quarantine. Like just be yourself. Go on the internet. Just like take some good selfies, some fire.

selfies. That's all we need. And the thing about TikTok is like, I'm not on TikTok, but the celebs are posting the TikToks to Instagram. So you're forced upon them. I don't know. I'm exhausted. I did want to talk about another celebrity going live every day, which is Miley Cyrus. Have you tuned into her bright mind show? I have seen some of it. I mean, Miley has all the access. You know? Maybe Miley could be Oprah in the new world. I don't know. But her Rolodex is pretty good. She's got me some big names on there. I know. And like in a minute it had like a logo. And in a minute there was like a set. And like in a minute she put on a bra for the first time in like three years. I was like, okay. I again, tried to tune into that. But I think the lives are just not a medium that I enjoy. Like I don't really enjoy seeing two people talk and meet. watching them talk, I guess, if it's not like, I don't know. I appreciate, I mean, I'm an editor, like in my heart.

I appreciate a well-edited product that's giving you the highlight reel the best. I'm not here. You're a celebrity. Everything I've seen from you has been highly edited and polished. I don't want to hear you say, um, 25 times between your few thoughts. No way. So I know you're not a huge bachelor person, but I'm sure you've heard of hashtag quarantine crew. Bachelor nation say what?

Oh my God, no way. Oh, oh, oh my God. I have. And I, you know what? Amanda, I'll tell you. I'm like at the point where I'm like, oh, my God, wait, there's a Bachelor show where people are trying to get record deals and fall in love. I'm going to watch that.

Listen, I just saw the commercial for it. And at the beginning, I didn't know if it was like a parody or for real estate. That's exactly how I felt. I was like, oh, my God. We're going to watch it. Yeah. I've, this is going to be my, my thing this year was I was like, I'm going to get really into The Bachelor because everyone loves it. And I only know about what we cover, but I need to really watch it. Like, it could be great for ideas.

And now I'm like, all the time in the world for the Bachelor would be hand around. I have to tell you, like, from a professional to a professional in the celebrity world, I think more than ever today, like Bachelor world isn't separate from celebrities. Like it used to be. It used to be like if you're, if you were on The Bachelor, maybe you're like a D-List, you could hang out with other Bachelor people. But today, like, first of all, most celebrities watch and love The Bachelor. Most celebrities know these people, follow them, like are into them. You know, they asked Jennifer Hanneson on a red carpet about Peter Weber and Hannah Brown and she had something to say. Like Charlie's Theron took a picture next to Peter's ad for The Bachelor. It's like all intertwined and nevertheless

they're also hanging out with celebrities. I mean, Selena Gomez loved Maddie for being like into God and they hung out a second after the show. It's all freaking intertwined. So it's your duty, okay, Maggie? It's 100% my duty. And I will confess that I did watch a little Bachelor in Paradise. Oh, that's a fucking shit show.

I love it. Yeah, I love it. But these people are, you know, taking over social media. So the quarantine crew, you know, all of a sudden one day we see Hannah Brown landing in whatever, Florida, Tyler picking her up, and they're shacking up for the next two weeks. And it came out of nowhere. Listen, good-looking people love an opportunity. These two were like, look at you, look at me. We could be in love.

Maybe we're not. We have these good-looking friends. Let's make some TikTok content. In this like house that isn't neat, I don't know, that bothered me. I was like, Hannah, don't you want to be in your own bed and, like, in clean sheets? That is so funny that you say that because when I was watching those videos, I was like, we have all the time in the world. No one wants to tidy up. Come on.

You know how many people are seeing this? Like, maybe that's just me, a very neat person. But I was like, stacks of paper. This is going to be gray gardens if we keep letting this carry on. That's a thing. It's like, but then I forget that Hannah's 24, you know? Yeah. I forget that these people are young and kind of fratty, you know, and but Hannah kind of surpassed that for me already because she got all this clout because she was like dancing with the stars and she almost felt like a real celebrity for a second.

She's like Demi Lovato loves her. She's like, you know, tagged in something like Carad de Levine. She was like in the world and I feel like she took some clout steps back by hanging out with Matt James. You know what I mean? Maybe it was her agent who told her to go home with her family. I don't know. I know. And also, where are these people, like, hopping on planes and, like, crossing state lines?

Like, that's not, like, I was like, wait, you just got home? Like, how did you get home? Listen, a lot of people, I'm sure, loved seeing Tyler and Hannah together doing TikToks. But then again, she was TikToking with his brother shortlist. I mean, he was shortlist. Tick-tocing with Mad James. So I don't think we know what the status of their relationship is right now. Yeah, I mean, they're being smart by teasing us during this time.

We're all a captive audience. Yeah, staying relevant. Peter Weber, the bachelor, you know, our latest bachelor, has been getting a lot of like shit for his season, obviously, in the way it ended in the way that it was. And it seems now that he's quarantining with Kelly, the lawyer from his season, I mean, it's kind of been confirmed because she's like in his TikToks. That's the reference. We got people. Okay. She's in his fucking TikToks. And the new world is crazy. The new world is crazy.

What's crazy or like this virus or I don't know. It's like just like the minute I say TikTok, I have the vision in my head of like, I just flip a switch. And like they change the clothes. Like I know. Like, I know the songs, and I'm not even on it, you know? Vine is so mad because this would have been Vine if this had happened a few years ago. So, but Vine shut down. Yeah. That's crazy. But the way they're Vine celebrities, there's going to be, there are already.

I think I saw somewhere. I don't remember where, but someone's, like, title was like TikTok celebrity or TikTok, I don't know. It's crazy. When the backer comes back, I'll be. be someone's title. It'll be like, Megan, 21, TikTok star. Well, I'm hoping since Claire, who's 38 or 39, I don't know, going to be the new Bachelorette, I hope it's going to be like, Aaron, 41, real estate mogul. Like, I really, that's what I'm yearning for in the new Bachelorette. Yeah, but now it's going to be like, Jimmy, 43, unemployed, thanks to coronavirus, waiting for

his $1,200 stimulus check. No one's going to have a job after this. Oh, my God. That's true. That's sad. Peter Weber and Kelly being back together or hanging out or and also like, who wants to quarantine with someone they're like dating?

Like, I don't know. Like, it's a pretty heavy thing to quarantine with someone for a period of you don't know how long and like you don't know each other that well. It just seems kind of crazy. I've never been. happier in my life to be single right now and quarantining alone. It is the thrill of my life.

All my weird single girl behavior is going on. No one to judge. I ate Oreos today for lunch and I'm like, this is amazing. But at the same time, it's like, I'm sure there are people, it's, it's harder also, right, to quarantine alone. I mean, I'm lucky that I have a lot of really good friends and I live near a park so I can kind of get my daily outside time in and I'm face-timing and zooming all the time. and that's been great. I mean, it has its moments where I'm like, wow, you are really thugging it out solo here.

You know, like, wow, you thought you were strong? Here we go. You thought 2019 was bad? Oh, my God. Look at us now. Exactly. Look at us freaking now. Yeah, as long as like people are healthy

and washing their hands, staying inside, doing what's asked of them, I am fine to just spend my time solo inside. Good point. We're going to move on from the Bachelor. I swear, the last thing I want to say about TikTok and Bachelor people are that Tyler C had the nerve to tweet that Peter needs to get off TikTok because Peter is quarantining with Kelly and with this other guy from The Bachelor of Dustin. And he literally tweeted Tyler C with his chutzpah. He was like, Dustin, take Peter's phone and like delete TikTok because Peter started posing TikToks and yeah, they're cringy.

but, like, Tyler, what do you think you are, Patrick Swayze? Like, no. I can't wait for the Oscars where they're like, and the nominees for Best TikTok Quaroutine are Tyler. And then Peter is challenging him to like a TikTok off. And then Peter posted this like post about him reading, like, responses, like comments about his TikToks and other things and like laughing and be like, this person said I should, you know,

go die. He's trying to show that he's like chill about it, but he's getting a lot of heat. But then again, he has 2.1 million followers. So it's like, I don't really get sometimes the, like, you know, how many are hate follows, how many are, I don't know. I just, I just, I don't know. I believe in following someone and enjoying their content and, you know, wanting more of it. And if people are following him to just, like, talk shit about him behind his back, you guys. Don't comment it straight on his thing. Like we have a little manners. I know.

I mean, what are the trolls doing now? Are they kicking it up a notch or are they taking a step back? What is the troll? Oh, no, no. The trolls are on full force. Yeah. No, the trolls are angrier than ever now, babe. I can tell you from a personal experience that I don't have a lot of, thank God,

because my soul wouldn't handle it well. But I've definitely seen some creep out of nowhere. and I'm like, whoa, like, this isn't, like, not the place woman. Yeah. So, and then realized, I was like, wow, this is a, you know, a tough time and some people's aggressions are really coming out. So I would say the trolls are out to play. Yeah, yeah.

Gotta keep my eyes open for the trolling in the comments. Did you see that Demi Lovato? walked in on her new boyfriend in the middle of his Instagram live. Yes, yes. Last Sunday, I believe we did that. Yeah, and it's Max Enrich. He's an actor. I don't know of him.

But, yeah, their relationship was kind of confirmed by her being like, oh, my God, you're in the middle of a live? Why? Like, why are you in the middle of a live? So good luck to Demi on that. Did you watch Vanderpump Rules this week? Yes, I did. I mean, I'm not really sure what I've done to you, but I'll take a Pinocrigio.

So much to unpack. Well, let's do it then. Okay. So obviously, Vanderpump Rules is filmed way before when it airs. So we all know that Stasi and Bo have gotten engaged and they were planning to get married in Italy. Oh, yeah. That wedding is still apparently on for the fall. But we'll see what happens.

But I cannot watch them. on screen without thinking about this. They're not even engaged in this season. And I keep thinking about, like, the present day. But anyway. Really? Yeah. I, especially, I think it's going to come up that she's, like, more pressing on

an engagement. So we're going to probably see that he was coerced. No, I'm just kidding. But we're going to probably see the pressure was on. It wasn't just like, oh, my God. This diamond came out of nowhere in the cemetery or wherever he proposed. But a lot of women do that and no judgment. on those two

who force people to marry them, you know? Yes, okay, so where should we begin? Well, listen. It's a prank war is the theme. Which like, fucking Bravo, I love you, but what the fuck is that timing

with the T-Ping of the house? Like, you should have cut that out. It felt very stopped trying to make fetch happen. Like, this man is turning 40. Like, are these what we're doing for kicks now? They all own million-dollar houses. Toilip paper? It kind of.

of triggered the feeling inside that I have that I'm trying to fight because I do love Vanderpump. It's like my Bravo baby that's like VPR kind of ain't happening so much lately. You know, like so they have to do these manufactured storylines that are very Kardashians, you know, a few seasons ago. Like, let's TP the house. And I mean, I would react the same way as jacks i'd be like that's so annoying i have to clean it like it's so annoying plus now with like toilet paper you can't get any and it's like all over their house and it just didn't it didn't even pan out like i feel like they wanted maybe more drama jacks to get more i don't know what they wanted to happen but it was just a lame all-around thing and at the end it came back with

jacks pranking uh tom back with the help of randall which i have some insights coop so Jacks wanted to prank back Sandoval and Randall had this great idea of this mega prank that's with getting arrested like that he'll have like actor cops now I know that these weren't actor cops these were real cops

really one of the VPR cast members told me this and this is why let's say Katie I think freaked out so much and also as a viewer I was wondering it before I knew because I was like, how do actor cops get a fake cop car? You know?

Because they put him in a cop car. Yeah. So I was like, that would be a long way like to, of an effort to get a cop car. And they really didn't look like fake police like stripper outfits. They looked like legit. So I guess Randall had like cop friends and called in a favor.

So those were real guns and like real everything. The other thing that really killed me about that scene when the police are walking in is that there's no furniture in that house and then they all kind of peek around the corner like what is happening. There's not a rug, there's no furniture. You would have heard that cop's voice the second he said hello like can I take you outside

because there's nothing to soften the sound. Just like a little acoustics lesson. The fact they were looking around it's like guys there's not even a rug in this room. You can see them. Right and that's and I also was really looking at Sandoval's face and I could see a little

smirkeroo brewing like And I wrote about it, a smirk-a-roo. It was like he was trying to be like, I'm an actor, I can leave this dream free. He says, if I don't know. But there was a little smirk where you could tell that he knew that it was a prank or wasn't real. And I also put that up,

and a VPR cast member told me that he caught onto it pretty quick. So I don't know if they knew before, but it was all, it's beginning to feel a little tired. And that producers are needed more because, I mean, think about how spoiled VPR producers were before. Like, oh, my God, seven people are going to cheat on seven people in this episode. I know. Now it really does feel forced. Even the scene where Sheena is filming with, oh, my God, it's not Max, it's the other one.

I was going to say it legit doesn't matter, though, Maggie. I cannot tell those. It's Max and the other guy. They both have dark hair. I do that all the time. They both have... It's Max Brett. It's Brett Brett. Okay. So they're having this conversation and he calls her middle age. I'm like, does this man even

know the word middle age? Did they like plant this? First of all, I looked it up and it's like 45. Yeah, and I'm like, how dare you disrespect the former Sheena Shea who gave us as good as gold and amazing storylines and a crop top wedding dress? She has done so much for this franchise. Are you kidding?

But also for real, like say thank you that she's coming to your stupid YouTube thing like you're a new bartender at sir come the fuck down and um him saying what do you say first of all shook that he has like whatever amount of subscribers he has 550,000 right that is a lot for like a that is a lot but I think he dated this YouTube beauty person that's really famous Carly something and I think that's why he got YouTube fame as well but and the other conversation I really hated with Sheena and him was I don't know if you noticed but their conversation where he's like yeah and like you're the type of girl that I just want to come to and tell you know that I hooked up with another girl and then they chop to her being like you're a great guy like anyone would want to be with you? And then he's like, yeah, but we're just friends.

And she's like, we'll see. It was edited so poorly and so to make Sheena seem boy crazy and desperado that it's like, okay, when she said Rob 17,000 times an episode, like that was for real. So they, them doing that montage was funny. She did say it so many times. But I feel like with this, they're trying to like you said, like make something happen. where, like, she's not obsessed with Brett. Like, she may have gotten her feelings hurt

that someone doesn't want to hook up with her. And she bought him an Apple watch for Thanksgiving? The greatest sign of love, a Thanksgiving gift. But editing her like that, well, good for Sheena because, listen, this bitch knows how to take heed and, like, she never care. It never looks. She gets so much bad editing and, like, comments from people. and she takes it in stride.

It really feels like she doesn't care. But, yeah, I feel like she's in on the joke, which is what I really like about her, that she's just like, I'm ridiculous. I used to be ridiculous, and I don't do that anymore. Ha, ha, wink, wink, nudge. And I'm just like, okay, she's in on it.

She knows that she has to cement her place in the Vanderpump universe. That's true. That's a good point. And now she has a boyfriend, and hopefully, I mean, they won't really be able to use the same kind of old trick.

for next season but what do you think about the new people is anyone i mean i get bret max since you confuse them i just feel like they're so the same like i know so much about those the same okay so who have we got we've got we got the girls we got dana yes so dana is like the funny blonde no right she's like the stand-up comic that had a thing with um uh with max now you're making me confuse them with Max and then the whole thing where they saw him with this other girl and then but she thought it was at a fancy pizza place but it was at a regular pizza place so when she found out it was a regular pizza place and not a fancy pizza place she was like I'm so sorry I thought it was a fancy pizza place and then he was like I just can't forgive you like I don't like you anymore because you thought that like so ridiculous and so stupid that I legit like cannot but also do not care like you can't can't give me two new people and show me like that they're together and have me care. Like have Dana date, you know, Schwartz and break up with Katie's marriage, God forbid. And then I'll care.

You can't show me two new people that aren't that interesting anyway and want me to care about their relationship, non-relationship. But they've done the thing that worked for us in the early seasons of Vanderpump, which was like, everyone has a terrible apartment with a strange colored sectional. Because all those conversations with Max are just like looking at each. other deep in the cushions of this like beige but not beige sectional and it's like oh so you are a stand-up comic you can't have a nice couch i get it right and that was that's a really good point because that was the draw with vanderpump it's like a when it started they were actually broke they were actually living in rent stabilized apartments that cost you know 1500

dollars divided by two they actually um were really good friends they were actually working at sir they were actually fucking each other literally and figuratively um so the question is can vanderpump continue with the oGs even though they're uh financially stable living in houses not working at sir um not friends with the new people it just Like, I don't know if I can see a big future. I don't know if I can see Lisa Vanderpump becoming an equestrian alongside her bartender, Ariana. I just feel like it's too much of a stretch. Like, if Ariana can afford to be horseback riding, she's doing well for herself, you know.

Congrats to her. But I have a hard time believing you're just a bartender. I know. And she's like, I just want to pick up some shifts, you know. Even though I do love Ariana, I think her storyline. Even though she has a buck out, like it's like, she doesn't need to pick up. shifts she has like a book that she's selling i know that was that's actually like a hard sell that was actually a hard sell i did want to talk about la la and uh what so she got a lot of heat because

she was i mean she throws me uh you know she because i'll be an episode and i'll be like oh i love la la she's so real like you know that and then i mean she's so pretty and like i like her And then an episode where, you know, I remember when Ariana told her about, you know, her depression and she started crying, she's like, why didn't you tell me? I felt so bad for Ariana. But I was also like, wow, Lala's crying. She must care. And then, you know, I understood that they're not really friends in real life. And Lala hasn't really reached out to her to help her. And so that kind of was like, wait, is Lala actually a good actress? And then Lala's showing her caring for James's sobriety. and meets up with Raquel and this whole shit, but she's actually so condescending to Raquel and proceeds to bring up that old rumor, which we don't know if it's true or not, that James and Logan had sex and whatever.

And I think if James and Logan having sex is real, it would mean that James also cheated on Raquel. Like, there are two things here. It's not only, oh, let me find out my boyfriend's also into guys, but he also cheated on me. So for Lala to bring that up last episode, the way she did it, if you remember, was so, like, on purpose.

You know what I mean? It was like, it didn't need to be in the conversation. They were talking about something else, and she was just like, you know, like, it's, he protected James and didn't tell everyone that they slept together. And then I was like, why would you do that to hurt Raquel? Mm-hmm.

I mean, Lala is kind of showing a lot of sides of herself. I think now that alcohol and substances have been removed from her life, we're seeing all of the emotion she's going through in a different way. Like, think back to the beginning of the season when she was talking to Carter, Kristen Dowdy's ex-boyfriend or current boyfriend, I don't know. That felt like she was trying to be like a wise old owl. And then when you see her fighting with Raquel, it's like, oh, you're being catty

or, you know, you're telling Stasi, like, stay out of it, stay in your bubble. And even Stasi looks like, I don't know what to do with this information, you know? You don't know what you're going to get with her. But this is what, I mean, connect those two things, Maggie, because I just have. We see her. So I'm ahead of you. Bye, taking your job. We see her intervening with Kristen and Carter's relationship, which like she's not even

fucking friends with Kristen. And Kristen was, I remember that episode. Kristen was like, why are you? You're not that close. And then her intervening with James's sobriety and James' relationship with Raquel where they're not even friends anymore. And that brought me to the conclusion

that Lala, who doesn't share her own personal life, just fucking throws herself in other people's business and tries to make, and then she like kind of produces her own show within someone else's business. Do you get what I'm saying? Like, if you think about it, she's not bringing her own shit. She's not talking about her own relationship on the outside.

It's all freaking perfect. She got this rich guy. You know, she's living in a mansion. She's all set. And she's sober. She's doing so great. But here she is having no storylines of her own and legit just throwing herself in other people's drama and in a gross way. Not in a like, let me try to like be in this.

So I'll like be helpful. But in a way that's like, who are you to talk to Carter? He doesn't know you. Like, who are you to tell James to be sober? Like, you haven't been friends in three years. So that's my, like, my take on Lala lately. She's manufacturing up. Yeah, she wants to be on the show, obviously,

but she doesn't want to share her personal life for some reason. So she's throwing herself in other people's drama. Lala, she could just be using this for, like her sizzle reel for acting jobs and and you know it'd be good because she cried for james a sobriety a second before she flipped but i don't know her apology also to rakel was kind of like iffy and instagram and then she was continuing to get shit because i think it was sort of like a consensus that she was not cool like i don't think anyone was like team lala being an asshole for no reason like people everyone was like that's not so great

And then she wrote this thing being like, I never cared what people think of me, like, and I'll continue not to care. We know. We can tell by your behavior. You don't need to tell us. So, yeah. So where do you see VPR going? Like, do you see it becoming just new people that actually work at Serb? But they're not actually like the OGs because they're not friends and they're not, they don't go way back and it's not for reals and it's not as pure as it was?

Do you see the OGs like fucking having babies and like, I don't know. What's going to happen? Well, actually, I've been thinking a lot about Lisa Vanderpump and how she opened. I think it's called Vanderpump Garden in Las Vegas. And I think the way to save this show is to, you know, bow out gracefully for our classic Vanderpump in the next maybe two seasons, two to three. And kick things back up in Las Vegas with a brand new crew because you know in Vegas. the rules are totally different, and you're going to get a lot of different personalities. Maybe people aren't trying to be actors.

Maybe they're in another line of work. Maybe there's some hot shot gamblers you could get on the cast. And go that way. Just give us a different taste of the same formula. I could see that actually happening. I don't think that's a, I feel like that might actually happen. But I, you know, would feel bad for the OGs who, aside from Stasi, like, no one's really, like, done shit. You know what I mean?

Yeah. And I'm not trying to watch Vanderpumped dogs. Like, let me tell you. I don't need to see a place about a dog rescue. We do not. I do want to talk to you also about the Kardashians. That's it. We're done.

There were two episodes in the new season. Yes. Are you team Courtney or are you team Chloe and Kim? Okay. So when I first started watching the Kardashians, the first episode of this season. I was like, I don't know if I'm really going to be into it. Like, there's so much going on in the world.

I'm so stressed out. And then I was like, this petty drama between rich sisters is exactly what I need to calm my nerves. By the time I watched the second episode, I slept like a baby that night. Courtney's monotone voice like lulled me to sleep. It was like a white noise machine. It was perfect. Boundaries.

I have never needed them more. Like, they're going to Armenia. They've been there. We've seen this. You know, there's tension between them. We've seen this. But for me, it was like a glass of warm milk. It was exactly what I needed.

They actually surprised me because I didn't watch the season premiere on the same night. And people were like, how aren't you watching it? And I was like, okay, like I can watch Courtney eat a salad and call it a push meeting tomorrow. Like, let's not like pretend like I'm going to miss some earth shattering, you know, drama that I need to catch live. But listen, it was, it was crazy. They fucking fought like Bad Girls Club, her and Kim. They drew blood. They drew blood.

They smeared foundation all across Chloe's walls. Chloe aggressively cleaning. I was like, this is what I would do in this situation. Don't know what to do. Let me clean in an oversized men's button down. But I can't take sides with them because I also have a hard time believing any of that is real, you know? I thought when I saw the promos, I was like, okay, this is not real. but then I believed it because, you know, A, there was blood.

They put a little band-aid on Kim's back. Don't even forget it. But I think they have so much tension. Like people, you know, that have siblings know this, it's like, of course it wasn't about Kim saying at that moment what she said. Like, Courtney's so fucking full on her for so long that she just wanted to fucking smack the shit out of her. And it happened. And sometimes, you know, and sometimes violence is okay.

okay? No, I'm just kidding. But, you know, this is what psychologist Amanda thinks about the situation. This is the conclusion I got too. And let me know what you think. I think Courtney's hurt comes from the fact that her and Chloe

used to be Levan and whatever the fuck. They used to be two peas in a pod. They used to make fun of Kim. Kim used to be the outsider. But Kim is such a strong-ass bitch that she never cared. Like, it never like, she'd be like, yeah, Chloe and Courtney are off, like, you know, picking each other up and being obsessed with each other.

But it never, like, seemed to have affected her. Well, I always feel like it was the teams in that family were Chloe, Courtney, Kim and Chris. Like, it was like Chris is like a bonus sister. And she was always on Kim's side. And those were the teams against each other. But no, you're totally right. So, and I think Courtney seeing Chloe, her, like, soul sister.

And that's what she also used to call her. becoming team Kim and being obsessed with Kim and kind of, you know, she even made Kim like the godmother, I think, of for True. And she said she connects more to her parenting style. And they kind of bonded, I think, when Chloe had True. And I think that's kind of what's happening. I think Courtney is really mourning the loss of her, like, her favorite sister and her best friend that's like all of a sudden,

team Kim and like up Kim's ass kind of. And what did you think about Malika? and Khadija as like family therapist. I was like, these two are actually very good at this? What did they learn how to counsel the Kardashians? Like you said you have a lot of friends, but like, do you have a Malika and Khadija? Because like that's what I need. I'll like toss all my friends to the fucking river right now.

Give me a Khadisha who will cry over my drama. She cried. Over my sister pain. That's not even like everyone has with their sisters. That's what it is, you know? I've never had a friend cry for me over it. What the fuck? No, that's what I need in my life.

I think they're great. I mean, first of all, maybe I don't have friends that cry over my drama because I haven't provided like a career and like homes and cars for my friends. So maybe they don't feel as attached to me. But it but it was also, I mean, great. But in the same time, I really think they should have talked alone because Kim was there and they were there. and it's like obviously cameras were there

and a lot of makeup was there but I really wish they had time alone because their friendship and sisterhood was beautiful I loved Courtney and Chloe like together they were silly they were funny she's like so tall she's so small she'd like throw her over her back it was so cute and now it's like

she is really kind of taking sides and I think that's where Courtney really like breaks that like hurts a lot Yes. I do think the issues here, you nailed it. The motherhood thing changed their relationship. So, so much. Because Chloe was always like the cool, fun aunt and there for Courtney for whatever she needed. And now it's like, oh, Chloe has a child and she's relating to Kim more because of that. Right. Yeah, I feel bad. And as a Courtney stand myself, like, it'll suck for me to not see her on, you know, so much part of the show because she did kind of announce on that. the second episode that she's going to be filming only things she wants to film. And like, I don't care about her going to conferences for clean beauty. Like, that's less of like what I, you know, the content that I need. So it kind of saddens me that she's not. But I feel like those things change all the time and she might realize, wait, I'm not actually busy. It's also like, yeah,

being a mother, we can say it's a job and I'm not going to even go into that argument. But it's like, what are you so busy with women? It's a reality show. saying I don't want to be a celebrity and like the look that Kim gives her I'm just like oh my God like you can't undo this you know right but didn't it make you feel like the episode with Armenia

like no one can compete with the fucking goddess like robot that is Kim Kardashian like the fact that she doesn't have like feelings and can like I need to go to Armenia and I need to speak about

the genocide and I need to meet with all these people because that's what looks good and that's what the people need. And I need to take these pictures because they want us to come. How does her brain, like she, I feel like she has powers and strength and no one can, like, if I go on vacation, I can be, you know, in a nice hotel and still feel like shit and now I even want to talk to my own husband. Like, people have days, you know, that's why I was understanding of Courtney. But Kim doesn't. Like, and that's kind of where the whole fight started. It's like, Kim is like, I'd get on a plane if I had a, I was dying.

And who can compete with that? Well, I think that's why they're famous because Kim Kardashian, when she first started, gave the press her time and access and she'd go on red carpets. And even if she didn't have time, she'd say, well, I can just give you one question to make sure she hit all of her outlets. They're as famous as they are because of her professionalism. She knows what her services. She's entertaining people.

And she knows she has to deliver. So it's like she's always going to treat work like the priority. That's insane. That's like, you know, that's where, you know, I can make fun of skims and I can make fun of, you know, her Botox. But at the end of the day, like, she is a boss-ass bitch. Yeah. I mean, to carry your entire family on your back for as long as she did, that's no small feet. Right.

And maybe that's her underlying, you know, beef with Courtney is like, I don't care that you don't work hard. care that I brought you to where you are in life and, like, you shit on it. I mean, she said that before, you know, there have been seasons ago where she said, like, I handed your career when Courtney was talking about being in the Kim Kardashian superstar game. Like, this is painful because this is an issue that they've had for years, you know? If it's hysterical, it's historical, as they say. Oh, I feel like I'm, like, part of the family. Yeah.

No, you're not. No, you're not. You wouldn't want Chris Jenner. You wouldn't want Chris Jenner. You know, I, this, the last thing I'll say on this episode is like, I love KJ, but I was kind of shocked at how insensitive she was to Kylie and how she was like, Balma, Balma. Like, all she cared about. Like, your daughter is sick. Like, and I don't know if Kylie was really hospitalized for Strep. I don't know if that was like, I don't know her work ethic. I don't know anything. But it just seemed like, wow, like, where is the mom's side? I see the momager, but I didn't see, like, the mom side. And Corey Gamble. Cory Gamble, a little sweetheart saying she had to be a mom. I was like, oh, Cory Gamble is telling you what's up. This is interesting. I wonder how she let that slide in fucking editing.

Like, I'd be like, count it out, count it in post. Show only the part that I cared about her being sick. Okay. Before we move on to another reality show that aired this week, Real Housewives of New Jersey came back. I do want to take a moment to talk about the most shocking video of the week, which was Camilla Cabello and Sean Mendez, zombieing down the street. What was that? I have a theory about that. Okay, let's go.

So I have a theory when you see celebrities walking very slowly or in a certain way. They are aware that paparazzi is there and they're trying to get a shot where they are. dead on and they're moving slowly so the paparazzi can get their shot and be on their way. So I don't know and I cannot say if that's what's happening here, but it seems like they were working with photographers. So the photographers could get their shot. Wouldn't they then want to look better and like no. They're like we're quarantined. We're, we're the every woman. We're the every man. We're going through it with you. They looked depressed and Camilla looked like she was wearing like a Halloween costume like I don't know where that woman shops but like what does she

wear so many what's in that scenario like just why stay inside I do you think their relationship is fake there's that rumor going on I mean that's what people thought at the start now I'm just so turned off by it I can't even pay it that much mind I can't deal with her like singing with her like tongue flailing all over it's like they there's really something off putting about them, even though I wasn't so much on the, like, you know, the theory that they're dating for publicity. Because it's like, like you said, it's been a fucking while. Seniorita fucking did well, you know, we can put that behind us. So I don't think so, but I also think something weird is going on.

Like, they're kind of weirdie together. We'll have to keep an eye out on them. I know. No, we have to see how their hashtag quarantine continues. So, Roney is back. The Real Real and the Real Housewives. Without Queen B who's fucking doing, you know, the Lord's work right now in this coronavirus shit. She's always doing the Lord's work.

I know that she has now made the leap to get into television production, but I'm like, should Bethany Frankel actually go into politics? because she seems to be coming to the rescue quite often. Wait, she's going into television production. Oh, yeah. You haven't read that? She has like a producing deal. Yeah. She was at the Emmys and everyone was like,

why is Bethany here? And they announced that she had some kind of production deal. So she's been working on that end of things. Oh, but yeah, no, she's amazing a time of crisis and she delivers. Be strong. That's her. Be strong delivering masks now and just. doing amazing, amazing work.

But how did you feel from the beginning about her not, like, when we found out that she's not going to be in the season where you're like, fuck, that Roney's gone to shit? I don't know. I mean, Bethany, the queen of the one-liners, I love the way that she yells at people. You know, after watching these shows for years, you can figure out, like, some women on the show yell, and it's totally inaudible, and it's just like too over the top. But she yells so clearly and so with so much conviction that that is what I was. will miss her just kind of telling people what's up super direct super blunt but i mean i don't know

like luane and the cabaret i was kind of tired of and now i feel like that's going to get more air time i'll miss bethany but i think lea mxweeney the new real housewife is going to be a really good addition okay she was the fucking light of this first episode i was it was kind of snoozy for me i don't care about tinsley and durenda's fight about tinsley not sharing things I don't really care about, what was Dorinda's party even for? It's like at least make up a fake reason to have a party. I think it was just to show her new hair. Everyone was like, oh my God, your hair, your hair.

And I'm like, what is this for? Your hair is cut an inch. Oh, my God. She looks great. I don't. She did look great. And Luanne is off her parole so she can pretend she's not drinking until probably a few episodes in. Anyway, so Leah, usually like new people scare me and I'm like, no, why a new person?

But she brought it. I was inter and I feel like she was the saving grace of this episode and maybe we'll be a really, really good addition to this season. Totally. And I feel like she has this young energy that while Tinsley is younger than a lot of the other women, she doesn't have it. Like, Leah has this great fun native New Yorker energy where she's kind of tough and says what's on her mom. And, like, she clearly wouldn't hang out with these women in her real life. So she just seems to be having a lot of fun with it. I know.

But isn't it weird that Tinsley brought her to the show that she's, like, so weird. That she's like Tinsley's friend. And you were saying that you know her from, like, you've written about her in the post. Right. So some years ago, she has a podcast called Improper Etiquette, which she does with Laura Stiles, who is on, I believe, Hot 97. and it's so funny. It's like girls just talking about everything from the news to what's going on in their love lives.

They talk to their producers. It's hilarious. Like I highly recommend it. And they did an episode where she was talking about being on the dating app Raya. And she talked about messaging with Michael Chey. And we picked it up and we did a bunch of items on it about like what the exchange was like. There were text messages released. It was a big story.

But I do love that they talk about page six on that podcast all the time. so I'm always kind of listening out for them to mention us. So what you're seeing on the show sounds a lot like her on the podcast of just like saying what's on her mind. Oh, so that's good to know that she's real because I did like that she was like, you know, edgy in the sense that she said like vagina and masturbating like five times in like her opening scene. And I was like, okay, nice.

I'm into it. But then I was like, wait, is this like for the show to seem like edgy? So I'm happy that you're saying that this is kind of. of who she is, and you know that from before. And they mentioned it on the show, but even before that, she has a clothing line called Married to the Mob, which has been streetwear for women. That's been out for a long time now. And she's always kind of had like a really interesting outlook, some cutting edge phrases.

She had a whole line called bitchisms, which were just kind of one-liners that were really cutting. A lot of them were kind of reminiscent of Jenny Holzer. So, like, she, what you're seeing on the show, like, I get the feeling that she talks like that in her actual life. And she was like a New York City, like socialite? Is that why she was also covered on the post? No, I mean, she was someone who started the streetwear brand with money that she won in a lawsuit from the NYPB. Right.

So that's why we were covering. But how would that make her, how would that get? So is her clothing line like, it's successful? It's a big one? I mean, I would say it's been around since maybe the early 2000s. You know, Streetwear was really having a moment then, and she had kind of one of the first lines specifically for women in a world that was typically dominated by men.

Okay, well, I'm into Leah. I'm into Leah. And even though she might have been the saving grace of this episode, I do want to say that the upcoming scenes for the rest of the season do look really good. and I hope they weren't as snoozy as the first episode. And Ramona crying at T-Barr did nothing for you. I'm shocked. I think because I've seen like the promos for it and because her face is like not moving.

It's just like a weird thing for me. Let's not forget she's like quarantining with Mario, okay? Oh, let's not forget. And also Mario is what a time. What a time. I mean, Ramona's such a fucking, I have issues with Ramona because she's like, she's just awful so many times. You know what I mean? Like, I don't get Ramona's redeeming qualities.

I need to find them and I haven't yet. But you're really right about Tinsley because she is the young one, but she's even more conservative. I mean, what do you mean even more? She's much more conservative than, you know, Sanja, for example. But anyway, Maggie, thank you so much for coming. on. Thanks for having me. This was so fun. It was such a breath of fresh air in a very interesting time. Do we even, I mean, I was going to say have a good weekend because it's Friday and we're recording, but it's like, do you say that now? Like, what do you have? Just hang in there,

and New York, page six actually has a podcast. Like I said, I was on it. If you guys want to catch, we did an episode of, what was it? It was before. It's like pre-apocalypse we've recorded together. We were near each other. That is crazy. Yeah, the Page Six podcast. It's called We Here. You can download it, you know, anywhere you get podcast. You'll find new episodes three times a week, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. And Maggie hosts it with Ian Moore, my lovely co-host. And you can probably find them both on TikTok. If I'm on TikTok, please someone tried to rescue me because, you know, it's all gone downhill. I was saying, I told my sister, I was like, if anything ever happens to me, I'm going to open a TikTok, and like, that's how you'll know. Like, that will be my signal to the world because my cap, my, my captures will let me open a TikTok. I'll be like, just a TikTok. Anyway, Maggie, thank you so much.

And stay, you know, hashtag quarantine safe and hashtag stay home. And until next time, babe. See you. Bye. That's it for today. Stay safe, everyone. Stay fucking corona free. Stay home right now. Hashtag quarantine. Hashtag happy quarantine. I love you guys so much. You make my life complete. Now go rate me five fucking stars and love me the way I deserve. Okay. All right. Love you guys. Thanks a podglomerate for producing the show. Love you guys too. Thank you. The Podglomer A Sonic Universe