Not Skinny But Not Fat - Joey Camasta: The Next Martha Stewart

Episode Date: December 16, 2025

Joey Camasta is on a roll and he’s here to make us laugh! We chat about why he left Barstool, where things stand with his ex co-host Pat and his boss Dave Portnoy, and what it’s really like to work at barstool. At 46, Joey has new dreams like becoming the next Martha Stewart, and new goals – like you booking him on cameo. We talk about coming out (spoiler alert: he didn’t need to), the celebs he hates, and more!This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Do what I did, order Magnetic Me today to make changing time easier for you and your little one. And these make a great gift for friends or family with babies, too! New customers get 15% off your first order when you go to MagneticMe.com.Get an extra $100 site credit when you sell for the first time on therealreal.com/notskinnyHead to knix.com and use code AMANDA20 for 20% off your order and grab a Dream Boxer before they're gone again!Spread some holiday cheer (and serious savings) at fromrebel.comFor a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners ten dollars off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code NOTSKINNY10Head to cozyearth.com and use my code NOTSKINNY for up to 20% offShop Mint Unlimited Plans at mintmobile.com/notskinnyProduced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. Welcome back to the not skinny but not fat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. So hi guys. Welcome to a new episode of Not Skinny About Fat. This is your host, Amanda. I don't know if I lost my voice or again. I had too many drunk siggies. I just saw a meme that said the CDC now advises that drunk cigs don't count, which I stand. It was funny, though, because when I had a drunk sig the other night, somebody said to me, oh my God, an analog sig. And what was so funny is that I was a little overly tipsy that I started offering cigs. to everybody who doesn't smoke. I'm like, okay, wait.

Rewind. Hey, everybody. What's up? Oh, my God. It was an exciting week last week. I had a really fun, cool event. I threw a holiday party with threads. Threads a la meta la Facebook, a la Instagram.

It was a reality TV dinner really celebrating, like the best in reality TV since like everything reality TV like happens on threads. Like if you need the tea, if you want it. just get into, like, conversations, like, that's where it's happening. Like, I knew would be fucking good. Like, which I, when I have high expectations, I'm worried because I'm so used to having low expectations and then being surprised, I've told you guys, that's my way of life. And I recommend it.

But for this, I, like, knew. I was like, it's fucking meta. I, the guestless is fucking great. Like, the restaurant we did at the Golden Swan's, like, this new, fucking amazing restaurant. It's, like, so swanky chic. It used to be the spotted pig. Anyway, I had high expectations. I had a fit.

I had everything going. I was like, wait, this is not good. Like, me expecting it to be great, like, doesn't bode well. But it was, which means, like, my theory is wrong. You could not have low expectations and still be blown away. But it was just so good. Like, everyone that came and, like, it was, like, literally beyond, like, this is how you know, it's a good event.

Like, nobody wanted to leave. People, like, stayed after, like, announcements were made to fucking, like, okay, we're done. and then people went next door to like another bar even yours truly because I was like I'm the hosed

so like I cannot and I was like I'll pop in I'll pop in I'll pop in I'll pop in okay now we're back to the drunk cig so on the way I did smoke a cig and was offering them to everybody who doesn't smoke it was funny it was really funny actually

like I gave one to West who then I made fun of him for not like holding it like a real smoker which like why would he like it just forced him to then I um offered one to Kyle from survivor who's so sweet he just wanted to get back to his wife and he just made a comment about

the zig he was like oh six i'm like here and take one to go like doesn't he doesn't have a lighter i force him to put it in his like pocket and take it because people are like no no it's okay and i'm like i'm trying to be generous anyway don't cancel me it was just such a good event like everyone was so fun it was so perfect like i like whatever it looked like on social media was really like it was more. And I totally get if you had FOMO because I would too. Like, I fucking would too. But your messages are so sweet. Like my OGs from the beginning just being like, I remember when you were just watching like, you know, VPR and commenting on it. Or like somebody said, like being a young Bravo fan. I'm like, emphasis on young, but like I still am a young Bravo fan

that gets to do fucking cool shit now. And it's, I am, I am enjoying every moment, recognizing every moment recognizing that year of yes, recognizing the 2026, I'm going to go harder, babes. A minute, a minute. I'm in the year of yes, and I'm continuing down that path. Anyway, I do, like, I'm trying to think, like, what else can I tell you? Like, am I having flashbacks of, like, Kyle Cook and Wes, like, feeding me steak because my steak didn't arrive, like, I'm the only one that her steak didn't fucking come. Of course, that happens.

And, like, literally, Kyle's, like, here is the bite for my medium rare one. I'm like, then to us is feeding me his, like. Literally, I'm having flashbacks of this fucking night. Like, Derinda, like, ordering a cab for her. She couldn't see straight by the end of the night. It's just everything. Like, I just love these people. They're so fun.

And it's like, what you see is what you fucking get. Anyway, that's on that. That's on that. We could probably keep talking about this night forever, or I can. But segue into introducing my guests of the day. So my guest of today, Joey Kamasta, he's so fucking fun. If you guys don't know him, he's hilarious. He had a pot on barstool, and I went on it a couple times and always, he made me fucking crack up.

And for some reason, when he was at barstool, like, he wasn't doing other stuff. And now that he's at a barstool, he's thriving. He's doing a lot of pods. He was just on the toast for like a week straight, I'm pretty sure. He's on my show today. And he's just everywhere. And I feel like he's having a moment. And I'm so happy for him.

because he's so fun and great. He's BFFs with Snooki, and they have their own pod, and that's also fun. But he really cracks me out. So you guys are really good to enjoy this one. Well, I'm honored. I was looking at the track record

the past three guests. I was like, well, I'm a good company. Were they good? Who was it? Fucking Chris Jenner and Kyle McLaughlin and then fucking Annison asked about your hair color. I was like, I know.

She did. I know. That's why, by the way, isn't it so funny? Does she smell good? Since she asked me, you know what's so funny? I'm so into smells.

And that would be the, first question I would ask, but I think I black out in the moment and I forget to sniff. Yeah. I didn't sniff anybody. I didn't sniff Jen. I didn't sniff Kim. I didn't sniff Chris. I'd like get so close to so many people and I'm not sniffing.

I do not stutter. That's the thing I'm good at. You are so good at it. I'm so like, but you don't stutter. You get a lot of famous people. Yeah. I don't stutter. I'm not because I'm nervous, but I just like I talk so fast and excited.

You talk. So that's like how like people that know you would know you're excited. Yeah. Because you're like. Yeah. So, yeah, I wonder if it's like... Are we on right now? Yeah.

Oh. I wonder if it's like... I just stuck my stomach. I love you. You look great, by the way. Oh, thank you. I'm on jar. What is called?

You know, those shots. You've been on it forever. Forever. That was the original. You were original, and you were original open about it. Yeah, and I was getting hate male death threats because of their parents couldn't get their diabetes medicine. And I was like, you know, flaunting my new blouse. It was like, it was a tough time to be overweight.

And, you know, but now I'm on something else now. I'm on tri-zapitire. Everyone's talking about that one now. That's the good one. Why is that the new hit? That's the new girl in town that makes you lose the weight the fastest. But I'm not, I want to be nauseated, like, to the point where I can't eat. Like, if it's, that's how I know it's working.

Are you on the low dose? No, I'm in the highest dose possible. Shut the fuck up. I worked my way up. Not to brag that I'm advanced. But okay. Does it make you sicker, the higher you go? I think it's supposed to, but it's like, like, the first couple days I did it, it worked.

Like, I was like, you know, gagging on my food. It's like I took down like a T-Bone steak last night and like there was no problem in the shellfish tower. So you think you like kind of get a tolerance to it? I think so, yeah. Like you can eat my way out of it like quickly. So I'm waiting for the next FDA approved, you know, higher dose to come out. Yeah.

Oh, last night you looked amazing. Oh, thank you. Oh my God. Thank you. I didn't know where to look at Sidis Sunni's boobs or you. It was both. By the way, I'm such a fucking pervert that when she came out, like, no, no, no. When I tell you, like I wanted to.

post this, but I was told, I mean, I don't know. I literally, like, zoomed in on her boobs. Yeah. By the way, like, in the movie, the housemaid. Her boobs zoomed in on me. They were like, there. Her boobs are insane. And I'm not like a boob guy.

Like, I'm not like, boobs. I'm actually more of a, like, give me Kendall Jenner and, like, a wife beater with no bra. Like, that's my dream. Little rose buds. Exactly. But when you see Sidney's boobes, you want them. And there's certain times when, like, big boobs in your face on the right woman, it looks, it looks sexual. Like, you know, I'm not calling women out, but, like, you know, Megan Fox, if she had a revealing dress on, that's, like, a very sexual thing.

With her, I feel it's just, it's more like motherly. And I see, I see, I see. Wait, on Cindy, Sidney, it's a mother. Not motherly, but I feel it's like more like Holson. Girl Next Door vibes. Like, whoops, I didn't know I had the years. That are like, or like a painting from Italy, like, some, like, fancy bonnet. a celly painting.

Like, it's more like artistic or for me. Yeah, I got you. Like, I get what you're saying. But they are also natural. So maybe that does have to do because I think Megan Foxes are implants. Yeah. Yeah. So anyway, amazing boobs.

If you guys want to watch the movie just for the boobs or Brandon Skilnar. Oh, the cast is so hot. No, no. When I tell you the zoom ins on him, his butt, Joey, never have I ever and I swear cared about a man's butt. I have. You have. Yeah.

Unfortunately. Yeah. But like, do you like a thick butt on the guy? Oh, yes. Like a fat ass. Oh, a fat ass. Yeah. No.

When you see his ass... Is it plump? Oh, my God. It is meaty. Oh, this is how they get to the box office. It's like, you know, I don't care what the plot is or who's in it. There's a fat ass nude on the camera. There is a fat man ass and I was like, ah!

Like, I think I screeched. And imagine that fat man ass, Sidney's boobs pressed up against... Were they making love? Hot ass sex I have to see it Yes So, so sexual So hot

And I need your review Of Brandon Sklener Can anyone say his name Skilnar's ass I saw him on the right card But I don't know Who he was

I haven't seen before Anything else Oh you haven't Maybe what else I have He was he's in 1923 He was in that movie With Megan Fahey

He was in Oh and he was Atlas in the Blake Lively movie It ends with us Okay okay Okay now I remember Anyway, did we introduce Joey Camasta?

Hello, everyone. You're like, no, we didn't. This is my camera. This is his tag at Joey Kamasta. That's me. Hi, babe. Thank you for having. We haven't seen you in many moons, as I said.

Many moons, which is so dumb because aren't you up for his side? I was. Oh, you moved? I'm a nomad now. Okay. Why'd you move? Because I was, you know, I got, I needed a bigger place and I went, you know. Oh, he went big.

Oh, yeah. He went bigger. Yeah. Bigger and better. Yeah. I was living in like a rat infested walk up. first. Oh, you were? For many years, I stayed there. Okay. I slums. I had to humble myself. Wait, can I just say something? Yeah. I didn't know how old you were. Oh, yeah. I'm a

I can be a grandmother. People? I went to middle school with Chris Jenner. That's how she got, that's why I got involved, I invited over here. Chris and I, she, she, she, she. We had the middle school reunion. You are the best looking 46? Yeah, 46. I'll be 47 in three, and two weeks. I know. What is the secret, my love? You know, I just, I just, like, do lots of skin care. I mean, I full, that's not what I, my, I tested you. I get full Botox and fillers, like, every, every three months. But, like, nothing else, really.

But, like, something is keeping you very young. Do people tell you that? Like, this is shocking to people probably to find out. Yeah, I eat a lot of pickles. So I'm, like, I'm pickled. Do you know what I mean? I eat a lot. I don't know.

I think it's just because, you know, and you also keep a cut, like, an extra, like, 25 pounds on you. It puffs out things and makes you look, like, more youthful. Would you want to be, like, super, super skinny? Like, that's the goal. I don't want to be super skinny, but I want to just be, like, you know, like, athletic. Yeah. I'm not going to work out or anything, but it's like, I don't want to, like.

Wait, you refuse to work out? No, I don't refuse to, but, like, I don't need to, like, have muscles. Like, I just want to, I just don't close to fit me really nicely. Yeah. And I want to be able to, like, take wear a bathing suit and not, like, worry about if I, like, if I'm jiggling everywhere. Yeah. Well, you're on your way to that, I feel like. Yeah, I am.

You're very much. Yeah. I had liposuction years ago. And then, like, I, you know, I blew up again like a woodtick. Wait. Lipsection sucks out the fat. Yeah. And then so it's reversible.

It's not like a thing that it's not like. They can grow back. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Trust me. You've done it. You did it everywhere?

I did 360 and I had my tits done because I had male breasts. I've been through a lot. And back in the 20s when I was born, they didn't have a, you know, there wasn't an option. And I had scurvy at the time. Well, you, like, was such a time traveler? I'm Blake Lively and that woman, that movie. First of all, you're a time traveler. I can't with you.

You crack me up. I first met, Joey. What year do you think it was that I came on your first old pod? Oh, like 22, maybe? I think it was earlier than that. Maybe at 21. Since when do you have the pod? When did you start that pod?

Like 21. Really? Yeah, so it must have been right around there. So what's the tea? What's the tea? It was so good. Yeah. I'm not there anymore.

But what? Why? Barstool, well, I was at Borstool, and they had, they do contracts. So my contract was up. And I just feel it was like, you know. Is that your PR answer? No, that's what it was. Okay.

That was what it was. And then, you know, I just kind of like, I was, I was, I was kind of moved on from it. I wasn't like, you know, it wasn't feeling it anymore. Really? Yeah. What about it? Just, I don't know. I just wasn't, like, excited about, like, the content and just kind of vibe there was

kind of, like, you know, not exciting. I feel like I did everything I was there that I could do. And I feel like if I stayed, you know, it was just going to kind of hold me back from what I really want to be doing was just more like cooking and like home things. And why do you have like limitations when you're there? You don't, but it's just like not the it's not the same like no one. It's like you've no one else is really doing it. It doesn't like not conducive to like the peers like the people I want to be mixing and mingling with the wishbone kitchens and you know the people that are doing like the home decorating and like that kind of space. And I feel like I was like the only one there. So it wasn't like there wasn't like room for me to grow into that space. was in that. I mean, comedy, it's more of a comedy place there, which I still, I still dabble in. Yeah. But you want to be like a, you want to be wishbone kitchen? Well, I want to be Martha Stewart. Martha Stewart. Yeah. Or a garden or I would love to have a turkey air fryer. Yes. Uh-huh. I would like to have a lifestyle line. Like, you know, I want, you know, Stob, X. Joey Kamasta collabs and, you know, things like that. I love doing cooking and, and tablescapes and, you know, little gifts and, you know, decorating.

Was this a hard decision? No. No. No. It was. easy. Like it came up and you're like, I'm ready to go. Yeah. Are you in touch with Pat? Not really, no. Not really. Like you were friends just for the pod. Kind of, yeah. But it did. It wasn't a bad thing. I mean, we weren't really social outside. It was, you know, we were friendly, you know,

you know, acquaintances, but like we weren't like really best friends. What was it like working there? Whenever I came there, I was like, da-da-da-da-da. Like, I was trying to get the vibes of this place that's like notorious for things and has such a such a name for itself

in so many different ways that coming out and be like they're the bros it's basically all bros it's an interesting thing because like I'm like outside and whatever really is everyone is really friendly

and very close and very family oriented and very friendly but that's like the unspoken like thing that I noticed there which is kind of strange is like everyone is so terrified

and competitive like without saying it so they are all comparing themselves to whose show is doing better who's getting more like between your yourselves even like everyone is just terrified at all times

It was like on edge, like, this day I get fired, this day, I lose it all. It's like, it was an icky feeling for me. Yeah. And also I feel like between you guys. I'm not competitive. It's like I know what I have and it's like I do it. But I kind of got roped into a dark place there where I felt like questioning myself and questioning it if I'm good enough and comparing myself.

And it just, it got to like feel icky. I felt that with Barger still like when I would come. I would do like your podcast and then they would be like, wait. Are you doing theirs? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, oh my God. I think you guys don't even like go on each other's within. the bars or community. It's a very competitive thing and very kind of like unspoken things.

Like, you know, people like, no, there's obviously bigger brands like the chicks in the office are huge. It's like so everyone knows who the bigger people are. But it's like, you know, there's an unspoken, like dark tone of it. Like a competitiveness, which I thought was kind of which is in your vibe. Yeah. So I'm just like, that's never been my thing. I don't really care. I'm not, I don't compare myself to anyone. Like you're happy for other people's success. Well, I do. And also everyone knows they can never have what I have. So it's like. It's true. Everyone has something that no one else has, and I know what I have, and I'm comfortable with that. No one else can be you. You know, who said that to me once?

And there was this clip, Chelsea Handler. She did this thing for, like, Elle magazine years ago. It's called My Turn. And I watched every time I'm, like, needing some inspiration. And she basically says, like, when she was, like, starting out in stand-up comedy and, like, someone else did a showcase. And her friend that she told her she had to get into comedy got picked up an agency, and she didn't. She was like, she had to remember herself, like, what I, what you have, no one else has. And so, like, you know, there's room for every.

and like, you know, no, there's no two people who are like, so you can't compare yourself to anyone. It's so true. And that's stuck with me. That's one of the truest, like, most like mundane, but things that you actually have to remind yourself every day, especially in this industry, adjacent, whatever it is, is like, comparison is the thief of joy.

And if you compare yourself to other people or think that because other people are doing what you want to do or what you are doing, that that means that you can't do it or you need to, no, no, no, no. Like, even, you know what helps me because I'm so, basic and dumb and like care only about pop culture and movies and celebs is like how many actors are there you know how many actors are going for the same role you know and are there days that Jennifer Lawrence is upset because Emma Stone got her role you know or other actors that we think

are huge that you're like you're such a star you know when Britney Snow was on my show I was like and she was like to her she was like nothing compared to like a Lindsay Loan you know it's crazy when you mean you know I get to the chance to do this a lot in our careers like you meet these people and like and it's like some like a big star is being insecure like it's like almost like we don't give them that permission to have that because like you're not you're not allowed to not feel your better you know you're not allowed to like be insecure you're fucking Jennifer Anderson or whoever it's like it's we don't we don't give them that grace to be able to be but it's a crazy thing to hear like you're insecure you have the hottest body you're a billionaire

like what are you what are you doing yeah what are you doing wait so when you left barstool yeah which is how many months ago it was in June June do you feel like it It's been like, like, good things have been happening. Kind of, yeah. I mean, it's starting to start pick up now, but, like, I was kind of like, I was dormant for a while just, like, not doing anything. Because I don't know what I, I didn't know where my next step was. Like, I didn't want to just, like, jump into another podcast.

I mean, you know, I still have my podcast, me and Nicole, have her, that we do every Friday. Is she scared you're going to bail on her? No. Okay. No, we're still going strong. I mean, we're trying to, like, to, like, try to evolve it and, like, you know, grow up bigger now.

Amazing. But yeah, so I wasn't sure if I want to. Do you guys do live shows? Yeah, we love them. Okay, amazing. But she's told her that's locked down. She has like 12 kids and like 15 stores. How many kids does she really have? She has three kids and she has five stores and she has a cheerleading daughter that like

every day there's a competition. Wait, are you filled in on all this? On what? On like the cheerleading like she fills you in? Yes. And you care. Yeah, no, of course. You're like what?

When's a competition? How is she doing? I don't care anymore because it's been going on for years and it's ruining our lives. Not ruining our lives. I was joking and I said I was going to hide alcohol and her sister and her daughter's cheer bags so they should get thrown off the team because she's, I mean, I mean, good for these kids, but these kids, for moms that are in cheer moms, they are, it's like, I guess, same thing as dance moms.

This is a 12-month thing. It's like every week there's a friggin a thing and a practice and a, who knows, competition. They're all flying all over the world. Wait, how did you meet Snunky? You were her makeup artist? Yeah, her makeup artist, many moons ago. Like, over like 15 years ago. That's what you were doing at the time.

I was a makeup artist. Yeah, I was a big makeup artist doing, you know, like fashion. I was in the fashion scene. Did you study it? Did you learn it? Did you? Yeah. No.

Like, what do you do? Do you go to school for it? No, it's a cosmetology school. Like in like in high school, but I was, you know, when you're gay, you're assigned either hairdresser, interior designer, or, you know, homey fans model, yeah. So I chose makeup and interior design. So I, yeah, so I just spent a cosmetology school. And I was, I was at Matt Cosmetics for a while and I worked my way up there.

And yeah, I was doing like all like, you know, celebrities and fashion shows and, and, like music stars and stuff. Music stars. Which music stars? Like, I was on tour at Kanye West. You were doing Kanye? Yeah, before he was like wild. No.

It was a college dropout tour. I was doing, like... What were you doing? Like, him, I just, like, I just laid his things out. Like, he didn't, I never had to, like, physically touch his face. I just had to get his station ready and have, like, that he wanted a black towel. He wanted, like, Bert's Batsby's chapstick. He wanted, like, a bottle of Hennessy.

And, like, all these things I had to have to have his step. What does that have to do with doing makeup, though? Well, because I would have to do with doing makeup, well, because I would have his, like, all his grooming things that he would need for him. But he had its orchestra at the time of women behind him, like a 40-piece orchestra of women. And every show, he wanted to have a different elaborate mask and face paint on them. So I was doing those, those chicks.

Well, that's insane for everybody. Yeah. So, okay. We had a whole team of us that did it. When did you do Snooki? That was, like, after, I did her afterwards, like, closer to, um. Just randomly for an event or like. Yeah, it was like a, she was hosting a show, hosting a reality show competition that I was on.

It was like a makeup competition that we'd. did every year for Mac cosmetics. It was like a Halloween makeup competition. And I did it. I like won every year. So this is like the fourth year doing it. So this year Snooki was hosting it. So they asked me to do her makeup for it as I was competing for my title again. I won again. And so I that's why I met her. And then she was she was like she came in. Do you know like peanuts? The cartoon Snoopy with that that messy rug rat one that flies in riffraff, I think his name is. And it has just like smoke and like dirt around him and like garbage. Well, she came. And that. came in, like bad out of hell at like seven in the morning.

She was coming from a, like, a tanning convention somewhere. She's just flown in. There was like hair extensions and like cigarette smoke and like, you know, perfume. She was like a big mess. And she was still like hungover and like drunk and hungover. So she asked if I would take shots with her at 7 a.m. And she had like vodka in her purse.

I said, I was like, yes. So we started taking shots and like sneaking drinks on set. And then, yeah. Became best friends? Yeah. Since then. Yeah, we hit the ground running. Did you ever?

Like, was she ever, like, come on Jersey Shore with me? Yeah, I've done it a bunch. You've done it a bunch. Yeah, yeah. And then we had a spin-off show called Snooki and Jaybow. So I was on that every season, like, doing, you know. Do you compete with J-wow over Snooki's attention? Not very much.

I think everyone in her life has, like, kind of knows their role. And it's kind of like between her friends at home and then, like, me and then her friends from, you know, from the show, her roommates and stuff. I think everyone kind of knows, but we all secretly are jealous of, like, each other's attention, though. We'll be right back after the break. Have you ever wondered what it feels like the sleep inside a cloud that also supports you emotionally? That's cozy earth for you.

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Union, New Jersey. Okay. I recognize the sign. Yeah. I feel like that's a big sign, the union. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. How far is it from the city?

Like half hour, 40 minutes. Okay. Depending. My father still lives there. But I moved here, you know, in my 20s. And haven't left since. I haven't looked back. Did you ever want to, did you always want to kind of be famous?

Yeah, always. Yeah, I used to like turn, like have at dinner parties like, like everyone, showtimes in 25 minutes, everyone get ready. And I do performances and like pretend to have radio shows. Like I had a tape recorder and I got like a red light bulb from the shop right. And I put a lamp outside. That means I was recording. No, stop. Don't come in.

And I was like just like talking to the recorder. Stop. Yeah. So did your parents like support this? Yeah. Did they try to help you, like, figure out? Well, everyone, like, the thing was, it was like, I was doing the, I didn't know how I wanted to get involved in it.

Like, I was, I really just wanted to be in the scene, like, doing makeup and stuff and, like, being, being around the celebrities. But then I quickly, you know, that was like, you know, that was like, you know, then I was like, ew, I'm not, I'm not the help. I was like, get me, I'm in front of the camera now. Yeah, right. So it's like, it became, like, quickly that I was like, you know, it's like, once you get a little taste of, you know, camera on air time.

Right. You want, you're like, I'm the star. But for a while, it was, yeah, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it was like, it's hard for me to have to always be like, you know, behind the scenes when I thought I wanted to be the star. So my, that's why I remember is called Joey get out of the shot. Like, they always would say that too. I would always be trying to like get in the camera. So that's like, you know, that's been my memoir. But if you knew that from when we were young that you're like putting the light bulb outside like then why did you think you could handle

being behind the scenes? Because I just thought just being like you know part of it. Being at fashion making doing like you know like real models and makeup and doing real designs and like got you. Being doing TV having my makeup on TV or just being around a set

or like near a microphone or something. Yeah that that would give you like enough of that world. Yeah. You know it's true like when I because I think it's this. I think when you know you want to be in this industry in some way but you don't know exactly how

then there's that you know thing in you that's like maybe I'll be fine like being in production or being I was the same way I was like applying to be fucking like a producer on shows and I'm like okay you know like what do you what do you think you know I thought too like maybe I'll just be behind the scenes and you know I'll rub elbows and all this and all that

and then you realize like no that would have never For you, you had a similar trajectory. You were acting. And then, well, you were... Not really. Well, you were a big actress in Israel. Israel, yeah. I was huge.

Were you a commercial actress? Were you a commercial? No, I had one. I did one show too, but it was funny because in Israel at the time, I was applying for jobs all in TV. Like, all I wanted to do was work in TV, but like behind the scenes, no one would give me... It's so hard. By the way, it's even hard to get a job.

Like, it's hard to make it in this industry as yourself. obviously, but it's as hard, if not harder to, like, work in it, you know, like, people make no money in that because everyone knows it's cool. You know what I mean? You'll make no money if you work, if you start out in those media companies. What I'm saying is it's not random or weird that you, you know, tried and thought maybe I could be the help. Because I think it makes sense when you, like, you know you want to be part of this world, but you don't know what way. And And who knew podcasts and who knew social media and who knew about it. It does mess you up a little bit.

So when I do, I do take jobs here and there now doing makeup and then be like, nothing that I'm ever treated bad on set, but you can just like, you're treated completely. As a talent. As a talent. Oh, you'll still do makeup sometimes. I will. And it's like, you know, and I feel like, you know, like, oh, like. And then with other, like, the other like hair makeup artist, it's like, I don't, like, I just feel like I'm out of place. It's like, like, I'm like an imposter, like hiding out.

Like, you're like sitting with them and you're like, I know this must feel weird for you. And then I'm doing cameos on my lunch. break. Like, you know, hey, guys. Wait, are you on cameo? Yes, book me now. No. I need Christmas presents. Oh, my God. By the way, book Joey because I am sure it would be hysterical. I love finding out about celebs are on cameo. You know, like, I just saw like, you remember Dermit. Real celebs are on there, are there? No, no. I'm talking about real

celebs. They are? Like, I just saw, like, remember Dermit Miloroni? Yes. Is your age. Yeah, yeah. We were in middle school together as well. He is on there and he's like, book me for a cameo. I'm like, Like, literally it's my birthday, May 31st. Somebody get me, darn it. I have a cell going on right now as well for the holidays, 20% off. Go to cameo.com slash Joey Camasda. They get you with that.

They get you with that. Yeah. They're like, promote it. You know who kills me on cameo too? Tom Sandoval. Oh, yeah. He does cameos up the wazoo. The wazoo, yeah.

I was bad, though. So I was like, I was getting booked a lot at a point in time of my life. And I let, and I didn't realize the number, but like, I let Sony go like expired. Guess how many, I guess how much money expired that I have on my cameos? $3,000. $10,000. You're lying to me. No, you're lying to me.

No, I swear to God. And I was like, I was like, why were you? I just wasn't in, I was, you know, if I was depressed, I was in, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I wouldn't do them. But now are you trying to message them back. Be like, rebook me. I did now. Yeah, because I need the funds. But I'm trying to get back to Paris.

But yeah. So I can't believe I did that, though. that you let 11k go. Yeah. That is a lot of cameos, though. Do you like making them? I love making them, yeah. They're fun.

Yeah. Yeah. And I put the extra mile in. I like, you know, really get involved. That's important. People are paying for that. You know what I mean? How much?

What's your fee? It's on sale right now for 160. Okay, that's expensive, Joey. I'm a celebrity. I'm talent. Wait, what is it without the sale? 200. Yeah.

Wait, that is insane. Dermin Mulroney charges way less. How does he charge? I don't know. But he doesn't have the panache that I have, Mama. He does not. I'm sure yours is better. The gift of gab, girl.

Speaking of celebs, what? Your viewers are like, who is? It's like, get her off the screen. Who is the biggest celebrity you had on your shows? At the podcast shows? Yeah. No, your TV shows. No.

I don't even know. Maybe like Lady Gaga. I'm kidding. She was not. You had big people on. We did. I'm trying to think now. I remember there was someone who was like, oh, nice.

Who did I love? Nikki Glazer? Nikki Glazer? She was pretty big. Nikki Glazer is huge, yeah. Jeffrey Starr. I saw he's doing interviews now, too. What do you think of everything that he says?

I love him. Yeah? I do. Yeah, I mean, I think it's like, it's a neat. Like, everyone is, as far as the community goes, if he's talking about, like, you know, being like, you know, a shape shift or, like, you know, dressing in a different gender or whatever. I think he, like, addresses, like, everything as everyone's thinking at it.

You know what I mean? It's a touch. I don't know. It's a touchy subject. He's like talking about like non. I think he talks about politics and like non-baronyer things. Right, right. I think he says what's on his mind. I think everyone's entitled to their opinion. It's like, you know. I think he's it real with everything. Like he's saying what he truly. But he feels. Yeah. It's not for everyone. But it's not. It's not what I particularly believe

or whatever. But it's like, you know what your attitude is. I wish the internet had your attitude of like, that's what that person feels. Yes. And that's why I see this people get so worked up over things, like, of differences, whether it's in anything of, you know, politics or, or, you know, jobs or music people or, like, whatever it is. Like, there's like, you know, barbs or barbs or, or whoever the, the rap battles, whatever it is. Like, people had invested that much in something. I just take, I was come, the barbs came after me once when I said something off-colored about, about Nikki Minaj. What did you say about Nikki Minaj? I just like, I just like, you know, said something that she was like, I don't know, that I didn't like her or something

or, like, you know, comparing her to, like, Cardi B, and, like, you know, there's death threats. Death threats. Death threats. Like, we're going to kill you? No, but, like, you know, like, you know, just, like, spamming my, my comment section. But, like, there's nothing that I am that invested in or, like, care that much about that I would, like, you know, get worked up for, like, cause a scene or, like, or, like, not really. Wait, there's not like a hill that you'd die on. I mean, maybe food related, but nothing.

No. Wait, so what was your, well, will you also go on, like, red carpets? You go to, not tonight. Remember, you were at the VMAs? We were at the VMAs. We didn't get to see each other. I know. That's right.

I love doing a red carpet. You know, I'm like the, they say, like, I'll show up to opening of an envelope. So. But that's kind of how, that's how your good friend Kim Kardashian made it, made her way. It's very true. Do you know what I also? Any, any press is good press. Who would you freak out if you saw?

I mean, freak out, come up to them, be like, I'm a huge way. I mean, I've, you know, how we are in these. I'm not, I'm not being goofy, but like, yeah, we see all these A-list celebrities all the time. I mean, the only one I would, like, really freak out about would probably be like Brittany or an Olson twin. Or an Olson twin. In the Wild? And the Wild? Wait, I feel like I didn't talk about this enough.

I mean, there's nothing much to say, but I was at the U.S. Open. And all of a sudden, it's like, walks by me what I thought was Mary Kay. I didn't. And I thought I did it. I was like, it's Maricade. I know it. The Bohemian one's usually the Mary Kate, right? But I thought because she had Pajmina scarf, but it wasn't.

It was Ashley. Oh. And then it was in the press the next day. And I was like, oh, my God. And I didn't have a moment to freak out because you know how you said? Like, you would have freaked out. But it was like, it was like, you know? And they wouldn't say hi to me anyway.

I had a dream that I was friends with them. Do you think they'd be fun to be friends with? I think in the inner core circle, yes, I think they would be fun. And they smoke cigarettes. So there's definitely, like, for sure. By the way, I just want to say, like, I really feel like I'm at the forefront of the cigarette. era and a lot of people are hopping on and I don't appreciate like a girl that doesn't smoke having a picture of a cigarette in her carousel. Yeah. Like I think like, I drink six and I just

got back from Paris so I was like a chimney. It's like my favorite thing. I didn't even like I enjoy it when I'm there but like when I come home it's like, you know, if I look at a cigarette unless I'm like bombed. Yeah. I'll have drunk cigarettes but it's like it's just part of my personality. There. That's where I have these loafers on. From Paris. No, they're from Amazon. on, but still. There's something about a cigarette not here that is just so much better. It's crazy.

It's so chic. Perched in a cafe? Like, what is that? I just think it's like, it's like, you see people doing bad behavior. Like, you see bad behaviors being, like, idolized. Like, in Paris, it's like a chic thing to do.

So you feel like, you know, was everyone smoking? Everyone. Yeah. The children. By the way, maybe it's not bad for you. It's not bad if you do it in Paris. Like, in Paris, it's actually not.

Yeah, it's considered good banners. Okay, I wanted to ask you some other questions. Like, what's going on? Trend Alert. Have you seen about the grocery store, Meadow Lane, and Trebek? I did, and I'm annoyed that I can't, not that, again, I just like... You can go? I can go, but I'm not waiting on a line.

Do you think they'll be on a line at any time? I'm sure there's a big line. That's another thing. I mean, if getting recognized, a Z-less celebrity getting recognized and not, it's like, you know, you feel even more like a loser. Like, oh, loser, you couldn't get on the VR list. So that's why I won't go. You couldn't get on the... PR list. I am. Did you get invited?

To the friends and family. I didn't know about this thing. I don't think I'm in the food space, you know? Yeah. I don't think I am. I'm excited to see. Like, I would go, but I'm not, I, I don't. The salads look good. That's the only reason I am excited. To, like, there is no line. Yeah. Yeah. I'm like, I think, and also, it's like, if I go there, it's like, my, how am I getting to the store? Like, I'm going to, like, my whole, like, vibe is going to change. Like, and I'm not going to, like. You're going to be in a bad mood. Yeah, waiting on the line would automatically put me in a bad mood. Yeah. But like there's something

about Americans that loves to stand on a line. Well, that's in New York thing. It's the New York way. I never got into that. I don't even know what the hell they're doing. Like, for snee. And like, I'll see and not to call people out. But you'll see some like store or whatever. And then the

people that are waiting on the line look like you would never even imagine like there's a, it'll be like these high fashion like, like, court, Parisian, couture clothes. And then there's like these like people that look like Girl, you can't even, they don't even make your size in there. Like, what are you doing on this line? It's like the most random,

I know, crew of people and just, I feel like they wait to wait. But it's the other way where like, it's like this bakery, but like it's not even that good. And you're like, why are you waiting? Yeah.

This isn't worth it for you. Yeah, like a cookie croissant. Yeah. Get another cookie. Yeah. You know? So I agree with you about, you know, not wanting to wait in the line,

but if there was no line, then I would go. Oh, yeah, for sure. And like, spend the money. Yeah, that's like, Like, my version of that is the ground swamp farms in the Hampton. So, like, I love going there. Oh, you love the Hampton.

I love the Hampton. Do you have a place out there? No. I just, I just go and stay with friends. Oh, you're a couch crusher? No. Well, like rent houses. Oh, you'll rent house.

You'll do, like, share houses. Yeah, share houses. Just like the summer house folk. Yeah. Well, I saw that you said that you would go on summer house. Yeah, everyone. Are you casting? Are you casting?

Have they had a gay cast member? They haven't. And I think that's, I should start bringing that up. You should. Yeah. Shame them. at me and shame them. Shame on you. Shame on you. Gaze love the Hamptons, too. Who do you think makes a little? The Hager store is pretty much a gay guy.

So it's like the same thing. But now she's gone so I can take her spot. Yeah. Are we really? Is that, are we manifesting that? I'm manifesting. Maybe I'll text that West Wilson. I feel like that's a good angle. Be a friend of. Do they do friend of at the shore house? At the beach house. Wait, are you friends with like Jersey people? Margaret Joseph's like, are you friends with those people? Yeah, Marker Joseph. and who's also friends with Gorgas? I'm friends with the Gorgas. I'll do dinner parties at the Gorgas.

By the way, I saw Gorgas last night at the premiere. Oh, were they there? They go to lots of premieres. They are so funny. Yeah. They're fun. A hot couple, fun couple.

I want to be invited to dinner parties. We went to dinners at their house, yeah. Stop. And I'm friends with, I recently became friends with the winner of war games. Gia Giudice. Gia Marie Judice. The war game.

What was game was she on? Special forces. She just won. So we've been mingling in the scene. Wait, where are you ming Killing Magia. At the influencer events, I think it was like, like, some like, you're killing me. I can't.

I can't. There's photos of us on the internet together. No, stop. Rubbing elbows. Did you vibe? Yeah, we hang out when we were there. And like, you know, we go, we go and we go and take pictures. It's fun.

And she's, she's doing great. It's so funny to me that you're now, like, that you're like living this new influencer life. I know. But I love it. It's like a new era. Yeah. But you're like owning it. You're leaning into it.

That's what I'm going to do. This is I feel most comfortable doing it because I'm being myself and I'm just genuinely, you know. That's so fun. Helping a big, big pharma out. Wait, how's the boyfriend? So good. Yeah. Billy?

Yeah. We were in Paris together. We went there and we had the best time. How long have you been together? It was three years in August. I know. And is there going to be like a ring a ding ding? Not yet.

He's very young still. How old is he? He's 26. Oh, my God. He's a BB. Yeah. We're going to that Christmas tree lighting tonight. What is that?

Rockefeller Center. Is that another influencer event? I guess so. Yeah, they invited me. No, stop. I am obsessed, Joey. I know. Well, I talked about it. I was on the morning on the toast yesterday.

I said, I want to get, I want to go to that thing. And then Rockefeller Center DM'd me, like an hour later, invited me. Wait. I love this life. Like, you could just put it out there and somebody's listening. Yeah. Wait, so they let, they put up the tree tomorrow. What are they late? It's tonight or tomorrow.

When is this air? I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. Whatever. Yeah. It comes up tonight. Yeah.

So it's like, you know, and people, there's performances. Oh, who's performing? Gwen Stefani's working. Michael Boubley. Of course, Michael Blahy. Hallie Balli. He's Gwen Stefani. Exciting.

So I got his little outfits today. I went, I went perusing up on Fifth Avenue. Wait, you dress him? Yeah. Well, he says great style. Yeah. He inspires, he inspires me a lot with all the his fashions. But yeah, I was just, you know, on the strip, just shopping. So I was, like,

cute, like, festive outfits, a little red, something. So I just picked us up some, you know, little dude dads. Where'd you meet? We met at a bar. At Salonte, it's Salonte on the Bowery. It's like some Irish pub. So not a gay bar. Not a gay bar. Just like at a bar. Yeah. Who approached him? I approached him, and I gave him a compliment. What'd you say? I said, you got a fat ass. No, you didn't. Does he? Yeah. So I, and then we just started, you know, becoming goofy and flirting and then, like, hanging out that night. And then, yeah, and then we just hit the ground running. That's the same thing with me.

It's like, you know, you know immediately if, like, if we fuck with each other. It's so refreshing to hear people meet IRL. Like, that doesn't happen anymore. I know. It's not schisney, but it's the way of the world. But it's like, I have trust issues and like, and I feel like, I don't know. It's not for me. To, like, meet on the internet.

Yeah, it feels like you weren't doing that before before you, by Billy. No, you were meeting in person. No, I wasn't really dating. I was just kind of like for years. So what were you doing at this Irish pub? It was, we were at, like, a work party for the end of summer work party. And, like, it was like everyone was just kind of me. Everyone was going there afterward.

Oh, like a bar stool thing? Yeah. Uh-huh. So everyone was just kind of going with, they had a tap there afterwards. We all kind of went there and hung out. And he happened to be there. Yeah, because it's like, roommates, like, brother was a bartender there. So they always used to hang out there.

Uh-huh. Yeah. And you could, you spotted that he's, like, into men? No, I didn't know. So you said you have a fat ass? Yeah, I don't, I'm crazy. Like, I don't care. It's like.

If you shouldn't be swinging that thing around If you don't want to compliment Wait, so what did he say though? He just was like speechless And I just walked by Like a nice cup like walking by I didn't stay there and talk to myself I just like said it like and walked

And it walked and then And then like yeah I think I think we just like We started mingling You know how it is the pubs mama I actually don't What is it like at the pub? I don't know

Just groups of friends talking mixing mingling Taking Yeager Meister shots And you do shots like You can do shots like you can do shots right now. I could, I mean, I don't like to do them because there's no point in it. It's like, I'll have a, I'll have a martini if I wanted to do a shop. Like, it's like, you know, I don't drinking games are never for me because like I'll voluntarily drink into a blackout. It's like, I don't need a game or. You still get blacked out. Okay. Okay. Not that much anymore.

Because now it's not entertained at home. Like, I don't go out that much unless there's a, unless there's a chance I got my picture in the papers. It's like, I'm not going out just to, just to go stand at a bar. Right. Like, back then it had to be like, you know, there had to be like hot people and like good music and like celebrities like now I just need a seat it's like I don't care what or a photographer yeah a photographer or my name and a getty image with a border market getting image on front of it I'm there did you see this new thing at Walmart angel trees no is it for dead people no it's for like people in need oh have you seen that no I'm not donating don't try it did it okay what is so so celebrities are donating their likeness yeah they're like

you go into Walmart and there's like a tree and then like each branch has like a, like Lydia wants a guitar and it's kind of like Amazon teacher's wish list. But anyone can go grab it or only celebrities can grab the thing? No only, but celebrities, influencers are doing it and posting it.

Girl. What do you think? I think it's bullshit. I think there's, I'm seeing right through it. It's a performative act. Like if you're really, I would donate money to you know, American Children's Hospital or something like that. Yeah. I mean, it's like, I guess it's, I mean, it's good you're bringing awareness to show everyone that this is the thing that they're doing at Walmart

to get people to go and do it. Yeah. But I think, you know, anyone doing it with their fun, anytime you're doing something charitable and posting about it, it's like, and I feel like it's a double down now, like you could have said this years ago, but I feel like it's a double down now because it's also like, with TikTok and everything, like it just will get you more engagement, more like, you know what I mean? Yeah.

It's like you get more out of it. But it's nice for people that can't get these things. If I stumble across the Walmart, I'll pick a leaf off the tree, you donate. But I'm also a need. So book me on cameo. Thank you. We'll be right back after the break. You know, you don't have to let big wireless and your overpriced phone bill suck the joy out of the holidays this year.

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Publicly or out loud or. That's a good question. I don't even know. Like anything you've ever said, like, at work or to like famous people, A-listers when you're out. Probably like I am the, I'm the Beyonce. Of the group. Yeah. Like, you're the Mary, I'm the Rhoda.

You know, Mary and Rhoda? That's an old Mary Tyler Moore show. Were you around then? Oh, my God. I wasn't around that either. What? But, yeah, probably I'm saying, like, I'm the Beyonce. I got you, I got to, I got to, I got to.

Okay, also, have you seen the, if you're not showering after the bars, then what are you doing? I love that girl. She's definitely from New Jersey. I can tell by your accent. What do you do after a long-ass night out? Well, if you're not showing at the bar, I'm definitely not sharing. I mean, I'm like, I'm like either on the ground eating in front of the refrigerator, like, binge eating and like and feeding my dog or like or I have I and I want in the night it's the sun's

coming up it's like 11 in the afternoon and I'm still up like you're you're are you do you apply any like tints or makeup they have to take off oh bitch no you don't that night before like if I'm like you know if you're going out oh no I do I'm saying but no but I want to know if you take your makeup off no I don't take your makeup off you don't no really not if I'm wasted okay wasted but if it's a regular night out like after dinner or something go with dinner oh no I have to shower before bed, yeah. So usually you shower before bed and after a long night out. Because I shower before bed because I don't want, I have like, my bedding is like too nice and I want to get it fucked up. And I just feel cleaner. Like, you know. Well, now I want a house tour with all these like,

my bedding is so nice. I'm hosting. I'm hosting. You host it for Thanksgiving, right? I host it for Thanksgiving. You see my Thanksgiving table scape? It was so pretty. Thank you. Did your family love it? Yeah, everyone loved it. I was feeling Lydia Dietz. I was feeling goss. I was feeling goss. I was feeling but everyone also copied me like and I'm not saying they copied but they did who copied you? Chris Jenner's birthday party was all red. It was red. So it was my it was before Thanksgiving. It was

before Thanksgiving. I think she got that she probably has me hacked. She probably did she follow you? She does yeah. Oh my god can you tell her to follow me? Yeah. Okay. Then I went on and then I saw the Thanksgiving. Is she your dream follow? Like who would you want? Who would you freak out the most if they followed you? Oh.

Probably some like some like sports guy that I have a crush on. No stop. Yeah. Okay. Drake May. I love him. But then I saw the same flowers I had for my Tablescape were on the Thanksgiving Day parade like front thing. Oh, Macy's copied you? Macy's copy.

Oh, my God. Chris Jenner, Macy's. Who else did it? It's just everywhere. I mean, I must try and set it have been for many years. I can't wait for this new. So are you in your like soft girl era right now? What does that mean?

Like you're soft, your homey, your cooking. Yes. Yes. I'm very cozy. I'm very, you know. It's your very opposite. of like barstool vibes right now yes right i'm in my my my coastal grandmother vibe or my my i don't know if that's a parisian grandmother vibe yeah do you talk to dave not i mean we're not we're not we don't like chit-chat said nice things about you when you left right yeah he's i've nothing but nice

things to say about him he's like literally everyone says what is he like you get exactly what you see he's he's no nonsense no bullshit straightforward uh very fair and very you know honest and just did you try to get to you to say he gave me options you know yeah you had to stay no I had nothing bad to stay him at all

love him love him so she's lovely like a family at Barstwell yeah a toxic competitive family

wait did you do those they had like the games were you still there for that when they had that like reality show thing fish down the shore at the beach house where was it

the beach house no I didn't do that but I did some other things like where I'd like live on a bus for a month no you did like road rules and like do like it was like It was like Survivor.

It was like Survivor and Road Rules mix. So like I had to like do challenges. And then if like if you win the challenge, you get to stay in a nice Airbnb. But if not, you have to stay on the bus. I never made it to the Airbnb. Oh my God. Yeah. How was that?

It was a nightmare. You roughed it out. I tried to get like, I tried to get like kicked off every day. Like I was like, please send me home. Tell me about Wiggles. Oh my God. My baby. Is he getting a brother or a sibling?

I need to get him a sibling because I, he's two. He's just turned one in August. He's Leo. It's the same birthday as my late mother, so that's why I got him. That's why you got him. Did you buy him? Did you buy him? I bought him.

You're embarrassed to say it. You're like, I will say anything. I don't care. I'm all about adopting and I'll donate money as long as there's a camera around. But it's like I'm not, I can't deal with a mangled dog. It's like not that they're ugly. It's the fact that I. So what kind of dog is he?

He's a long hair chihuahua. Okay. She's a pure bread. How much did you spend? $5,000. That's expensive. I know. But now I went back to the same place.

now they're $9,000. Why you try to sell her back? No, I don't want to sell her back. I'm trying to get a sister or brother. Oh. Because then my sister, my sister was, when I was in Paris, my sister had, was staying in my house watching my dog with her dog. And they, her, so this cousin and him became best friends.

And his whole personality change. She's like, it's a whole different dog there. He's like, more well-behaves when there's dogs around. He's like, he's happy. So I have to get him. And I always feel like, I don't speak the language. So, like, I feel like he's like never going to be able to talk to someone else in the house. I don't speak the language.

Do you know what I mean? No. I'm part labored you believe or not Like you want You want him to have a friend I want him to have a friend But would it be more annoying To like have to walk two dogs

Rather than one Well No I think it's the same thing It's the same Yeah And a bit Does he bark a lot? No

Or is a she It's a he No he's a him But he does bark at the TV When he sees other dogs on the TV That's it though That's not a problem But yeah there's not like

There's no one like coming to my door Or anything So he's not like you know Listening Wait do you want Do you want to have kids or no I always said I would have kids

if I'm, we're not as Angie Cohen and able to get, like, give my kid that lifestyle, like, go to private school and, like, if kids, like, you know, I'll kill a child. Like, if someone, like, fucks to my kid and calls him, like, makes fun of him, I'll be in jail. So, like, I have to, like, you know, having gay dads is, you know, kind of, you know, it's

220, you know, but there's still, you know. Bullying and stuff. Bullying. So, like, yeah, I have to go to, like, a school where there's, like, you know. So, you need Andy Cohen's money. Because I want to be able to, like, put him in a nice private school and, like, you know. Oh, because he would get bullied if you went to... No, he wouldn't get bullied. My couldn't get bullied because we're resilient people.

But I think, you know, I just think, like, I don't know. I wouldn't want to like have a kid, just have a kid and, like, have to slum it. Slum it, but you know what I mean? It's expensive. Like you want to, you want to, you want to, okay. So is that a goal? And I want to give them the life, like, you know, like that I never had. Do you know what I mean?

Why were you roughing it? We were poor for many. I'm kidding. Ew, poor. I'm joking. No, it's just like, I don't know. just feel like, kids, I don't know, I don't, they're not going to fulfill me. I don't need them to be fulfilled, but it would be nice to like, you know, for narcissistic reasons, though,

not for, not for any other reason. Like, I don't, I don't need to take on the family business of, of cloud chasing. Wait, what is Billy? What does Billy do? He is, he was in construction Billy in construction. No, he's not picking up hard hats and tools. Okay. She was in, he was construction management and like architecture, like, he was building museums. and stuff. But now his career is pivoting. He wants to do stuff more. He's very creative.

He's very good. And I think he wants to do things more like in the arts. So like, you know, with photography and like, you know, design, graphic design. So he's going to get into something like that. Is he into your world? Yeah, he loves it. Yeah. Very supportive.

Oh, I love that. That's important. But I have to remind him on the Beyonce. At all times get back. Because you're like, what do you mean you want to get into the creative? Don't try it, Queen. Do you think you could ever date somebody who was like? No.

No, you couldn't. I could never. My boyfriend, when I was, like, young, he, like, got headshots, and I, like, almost broke out with him. I said, what the fuck do you think you're doing? I ripped them up. I literally ripped them up. I was like, don't even fucking try it.

Head shots. No, I can't. Really? What age was this? It's like, I'm like 19 or 20. I was not having it. If you have headshots at that point? No, that's why I was jealous.

Oh, my God. I can't. Not on my watch. Not on my watch. Did you ever see that? When did you come out? Oh, I never had to. You never had to.

No, I was doing roller sets in my room at 12, so it's like, the jig is that, Mama. Like, my other's like, where did my bra go? It's like, you know where it went. We all know where it went. Wait, that's so interesting. You never had to. Is that a real story? Yeah, yeah.

Like, it was just like... I mean, you have eyes. You could, like, I'm literally wearing women's clothing and like doing hair and talking about how cute boys are. Like, I would be like... I remember, like... From what age? Since I, since I knew that I had crushed on boys, Jonathan and Taylor Thomas.

I was like, oh, he is so cute. I mean, my sisters were, like, talking about how cute the boys were. And, like, it just, it never was a dirty thing for me. It never had to be said. It wasn't like, I never felt, like, ashamed of it. Like, it was just always like, probably because you felt safe in your house, you know? And also, I mean, again, the thing is, like, you know, people have, are gifted certain things. And I was gifted.

What I, I know what I got. It's my personality that has gotten me through, like, so many different things. And I have opportunities. And, and I also have the gift of comedy, like, things. people aren't, even if they are, even if they do hate like whoever I am or like what I stand for or whatever, I have like a different way. They, you know, they can't help but like me because it's like how I'm delivering it. Like, do you guys hear what he said? He said, even if you don't like me, like, you love me. If you're homophobic, like, even though like you hate the gays,

it's like, you know, you can hate the gays, but like I get a pass because I'm funny. You feel that? Not that. Not so much. Okay. But you know what I mean? I feel like, I feel like that they look past. That's like the, you feel like the, like not the, it's a It's like the most like boring thing about me. It's like there's some more things. So like that's why I think that I shine more in other areas. First of all, baby, you shine. Thank you.

You shine. I'm wearing a new serum. Wait, I wanted to talk about some pop culture stuff. Do you write these notes yourself? You have the lady to it. The lady. There's always a lady. In this business, there's always a lady.

It's like, who do I send my invoice to? Where's the lady? I added in handwriting because I wanted to talk about pop culture of the day. Yes. like news, newsworthy stuff. So most recently, we found out that Miley Cyrus is engaged. To who? To, okay, so this is what's sad to me.

And I went on this rant a while ago. So you know how like Taylor Swift, we're all upset. Everyone dies. Yes. Love it. Love it for her. However, we have such talent in our times. Like, Miley fucking Cyrus.

I'm still glad to her about the Super Bowl. Like, I was praying she would get the Super Bowl. Did she don't want to do it. I don't know if she didn't do it. It's like, you know, we're missing a diva. We need divas. It's a divas-only environment. Really? Oh, you're not into the bad bunny?

I hate when men do it. I don't think it's a space for men at Super Bowl. I think it's a divas-only arena. I could see your angle. It should be, it should be this year. It could be any of them. But you were thinking, well, we know Taylor has had discussions, but okay, wait. I want to talk about the Miley, not Super Bowl, because this is important to me.

Miley Cyrus, one of the biggest divas of our time, okay? Love her. I feel like, and people would be like, think. thinking that I'm dumb about this, but like, she doesn't get enough love. And here's why. Miley Cyrus is engaged, okay? This should be breaking news. And yes, it's on the sites and it's in the media.

But, like, we don't know his last name. And I, like, I can't say his last name off the top of my tongue because I don't know why. But I just feel like Miley doesn't get enough, like, media attention or something. Like, and is it because she's, like, down to earth and she, like, performs a little? like jazz clubs like why isn't she at like Taylor level like fucking rock the world everything she does is like blown up right breaking the internet you know fucking everything why this I don't know I don't know why maybe because she is like she like went through that thing where like she didn't want to be public with her last relationship her last engagement to the Hemsworth she was like

like oh get away like she would want to be like coupled up and she didn't want to like be maybe it was just him but you know she's like I think she's more like reserved maybe they're giving her her time to like be by herself. That's a nice way to look at it. You were saying something recently about the Kravitz and that same thing with them. I don't know because when I posted that, did you get Cushback? No, no, no. I actually got or it's PR, which like you guys, it's not PR.

Or I got, well, they both date a thousand people a day so like we don't care. I just didn't even know. I had no idea they were together even. But I did hear a rumor. Doesn't she guys want to hear a wild rumor? Jacob Lordy? I heard that they're engaged. I mean, would that be wild?

I guess this is Zoe Kravitz is Lenny Kravitz's daughter. Yeah. Oh, you're really. Lisa Bonnet's mother is the mother. Right. Gorgeous family. Oh, yeah. And she has dated a lot of hot people.

Are they British? Both British? I don't think they're British. Harry Styles is British. Oh, Harry Seals is British. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So Miley Cyrus doesn't get enough love, I think. I feel like her engagement should have been like, you know, front page. Front page, okay.

People are like, oh, she's engaged, great. This is where she got her ring, but whatever. Then we have Taylor and Travis. Travis literally was quoted today by saying that in the two and a half years, him and Taylor are together, which is so long, and I can't believe it's been two enough years. They have not had one fight, he said. Well, what is sort of a fight about? You're both billionaires?

You think it's all money? Not money, but also, and another thing is I don't think they're up like traditional couples. They're not like slumming it together, like every fucking five minutes. Like they travel and they have multiple homes. and they're doing stuff. They're not, they're not staring at each other ordering Chinese food

and like getting fights about stupid shit because they're not, they're, I think that's the part of it. It's like, be together less and you'll fight less.

No, 100%. It's true. And also it's like, you know, I'm like, I can't go to the bathroom. I'm like, to my husband, like can I pee without you having to be

in the bathroom at the same time? So you're right. They're never in the bathroom at the same time, probably. No, they're on the same floor at the same time probably. Yeah.

And then when they are together, it's all the good time. I mean, that's the luxury of having that kind of lifestyle. Did you hear that she's getting married in her Rhode Island house? I would call that from the beginning. Yeah? Billy's family has places in Rhode Island, and that's just very the vibe. It's the new point. It is the vibe for her.

I've never think she would get married in Hollywood or a destination or France or something like that. It's not, it's going to be an Americana summer wedding with lobster rolls and, you know, all good, all good New England. You think her dress is going to be good? Yeah. I think it's going to be, I don't think it's, I think it's, I think it's two, two things I'm seeing. I'm seeing, like, a structured, like, Vera Wang, like, you know, like, off the shoulder, like, strapped this, but, like, it goes up a little bit, like, like, a U-Shap. Oh, she loves that shape. That shape there.

She loves that, too. A thing like this and, like, a grace Kelly, like, sat in skirt. I don't think Grace Kelly. No. I think she's going. Atherial? Princess. Disney fucking princess.

Oh, big boost. There might be. If you have that are very. She might go, like, very witchy and, like, you know, like, lace and, like, have, like, you know, like a 20s vibe. Do you know what I mean? Not 20s, like, maybe, like, a floral headpiece. Yeah, a floral thing.

Bohemian, bohemian. Yeah, with sleeves, like, like, Kate Moss's wedding. Oh, my God. I feel like we're really on track where, like, this will be quoted after. I know. I'm excited. Yeah. Watch. We're the ones to watch.

I'm excited. She think we're going to be able to cover the wedding, you and I? Wait, do you think that she, because do you, when you, do you, when, And she went on her tour promoting her new album. She talked about the wedding a lot. And she was saying to everyone, you're coming. Like, if she'd come on my podcast, she'd be like, and you're invited because we've met once. And I'm basically inviting everyone that I met once.

I'm going to follow up if she said that to me. So do you think, though, that she's actually going to invite all the people? She said she's going to invite. I'm maybe. Like, who is she inviting? Who would she say that she's inviting? Like to radio hosts, like in the UK. Like, she'd go on like a radio show and she'd be like, they'd be like, so at the wedding.

And she's like, well, you're coming. Like, I'm inviting you. Oh, I don't know. I mean, it's either going to be something really small or like a blown out fucking thing. But I was thinking of people are smaller venue. I have another question for you. And now I'm remembering we talked about this

at the beginning about smelling. Because you asked me if I smell people. And I regret not smelling people so fucking much. Like, I smell on the street. I'll be like, oh, I sniff people all the time. And so I find out, I'm like a fucking bloodhound in the bar. I'm like trying to find out who has the clone on And so I can ask them about it.

I have no shame. I have nothing. I'm an old woman now. You know how your parents are, like, embarrassing the store? Like, get over here. Like, you know, what are you scared about? Like, that's me. I have no shyness about anything.

Who do you think smells the best in Hollywood? I mean, I know Rihanna is supposed to smell the best. I haven't even smells her, though. She looks like she smells really good. Yeah. I think, I don't know. I like fresh, clean kind of smells. Like musky?

Yeah. Who do I want to smell if I could? Jailo? I hate Jailo. You hate Jail? I told you that. the other day. No, you didn't.

I didn't tell you a text. No, Tom, it's something. I hate her and you. Why do you hate her? Okay. I just, I don't know if she annoys me. I mean, you're not alone, unfortunately. Well, I've heard she's a bitch to people in the industry.

She's like, and to her staff and I think she's like very mean. Really? I'm triggered because I was to help. Did you hear this from like people that would know? Yes, insiders. I helped her once when I worked at Patricia Field and she came with P. Diddy looking for a cowboy hat. And was she nice? No, she was rude.

What did she say? She was just like hiding her face. Like, bitch, I'm not trying to take a. picture of you. This is for camera phones, though. So what do you think? You were taking a photo with like a camera camera? I wasn't taking a photo, but she was just like, you know, like, very like, you know, like who she is. It's like, I was told that she was nice and then I met her and she was nice. Did you meet her in a professional environment? Were you interviewing her? Yes. Oh, bitch. Yeah, I was saying that like, if you were like

her, if you were like her, the runner or something. I see. Yeah. Then it would be different. Did she ask about me? She gave me a compliment. You know, if somebody compliments me, they could murder my dog. You've had enough compliments on E-list celebrities already. But Jennifer Annison, the freaking hair collar. I was so upset.

I was blocked you. I almost blocked you. No, but it's like, to me, like you could literally kill a member of my family and then compliment me. Yeah. And we're fed. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Yeah, maybe I'll get a room. J-Lo, if you want to hang out, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Like if she'll compliment you. Let me know. Just make sure. But she just do, wait, she just performed at a wedding.

J-Lo? Did she? Get it, girl. I know if Beyonce does things like that, too. She does. Like in Dubai, I think she goes to weddings like. Wait, right. Those like huge, like Dubai and India.

Like, wasn't there like an Indian wedding? All the Kardashians went. What's your thoughts on Megan Markle? Did you be, I'm even Googling my hate list. Megan Marbles. Marbles. Marbles, why? Megan Marcos M.M.

Wicked Witch. Do you know what that is? Wait, you think she's a wicked witch? I can't stand her. You know, she's my manifesting, the guest's manifesting. Well, I also see she sent you jams and jellies. Yeah. And this, again, I'm just jealous.

I don't care about her that much. Wait, why are you? You just said she's a wicked witch. I was kidding because I was like Megan Marble. You know that? No. Michelle Yow's going around doing that. No.

Oh, you have to look at it. It's the new, if there's 100 people in Room Lady Gaga. Really? She's doing it on the press door for the wicked show. And she's like, she keeps saying, Megan, Madame Marble. Flip it around, Wicked Witch. And it's so crinzy. She's doing like, she does it 30 times.

We have to pull it up. Oh, my God, I'm dead. But Meg and Margo, I'm jealous of her because she has my dream show. Like, she has a lifestyle show. I want to make, I want to make, I want to make honey, make my own honey in the backyard and make little bouquets and have my gay friends come over and make, you know, charts and pastries. But that's not why you hate her. I don't think that's why. I just think that whole scandal when she took down the whole family.

It was like, really touched you personally. Only because not because it's the wrongdoing. the, like, the bad things that were going on. More because, like, you're not from there. It's like, in, like, an American, like, doing something like in a different culture. I feel like it was, like, in her place, like, while out. Did you see the, the Megan Markle drama with the Kardashians? She went to there, to Chris Jenner's 70th, was sliving.

Then she posted photos. No, then Chris Jenner posted a carousel with a photo of Megan and Harry in it. Boop in, like, two hours. That, because you know how you can delete a photo from a carousel. that photo is disappeared. So then there are, like, articles about how Megan... Refused.

You don't want her picture taken. And you can just imagine behind the scenes and what I, like... You don't go to that party and expect not to have press and, like, people... Right. So I think, first of all,

the Kardashians are obviously my girls. And I kind of was happy that they weren't getting... It seemed like the media kind of was like, it's so obvious what happened. Chris posted a photo with Megan and Megan asked to take it down after two hours, you know?

Or did someone not look? cute in the picture. But it was only... That was just her? It was Chris, Megan, and Harry. Oh. Yeah. Yeah.

She's... Are they friends with the Bezoses? Yeah. The royal couple? Yeah. Oh, that's, yeah. Who? Oh, Megan and Harry?

Yeah, they're friends with them? I don't know. I feel like they wouldn't admit it. You know what I mean? What do you think about Jeff Baysson, Lauren Sanchez is having a bachelor's party? Don't you think it's a certain I need to cut off? It was, it was like, again, I was piss up.

I wasn't invited, but it's like, and I'll probably be 90 when I get married, but it's like, I just feel like, I think they did it beautifully in Paris. It's just something, I'm not saying there's a bad thing about it. Wait, like, Brooks Nader there. Like, I need to know, like. Kim was there. And, and Chris, your two home girls. Kelly, uh, Katie Perry was there. Katie Perry. What do you think of Katie Perry? I think she's cool. I think. Really? I don't know. I get cringe out. Yeah, I don't really know her that well. When she had the short hair, I didn't like her, but now. Really? Oh, yeah. She's kind of, She was kind of cookie, cookey. She's cookey now, too, though. And I get, I don't know who's going to her concert. Yeah. But when I get, like, little clips of it, I'm kind of like, what is happening? Why are you wearing, like, shapewear with sequins? Like, you know what I mean?

Like, I also feel like, can people wear other things to concerts and not just like these, like, besides a leotard? Yeah. Yeah. Constructed leotard. Is there nothing else to wear? Well, drag queens have setting the tone for many years. and that's an old standard.

I don't know. They need to set a new one so people copy it. I guess she's just trying to keep up with what everyone else is doing. I think it sticks to what you do with your kits, your campiness and your boobs squirted out

whipped cream. Like, stick with that. We're not, don't stop trying to be sexy and spacey. Right, and spacey. I mean, technically, been literally, she went to space. Would you have gone if they asked you?

I would not go for millions of dollars. You wouldn't go. It's my biggest fear probably. Yeah, like the ocean. I would never go to anything. Would you go to space for money? For money, yeah. For any, like, what's the amount?

But I'd have to be drunk or like, you know, like, if it had to like get a little tipsy and like you would go with Snoopy, I feel like, for the vibes. For the vibes. And not for money as well. But, you know, that's a terrifying thing. It's like an, you know. It's an unknown. The space never turns out there.

Like, people with kids that don't know if they're going to fucking come back. Yeah. I would never. Remember that movie Interstellar? How scary. No, but I feel like I need to watch it because people talk about it a lot. For the soundtrack alone, it's a great soundtrack as well. I'll watch it.

I've been wanting to do this. Oh. Your loafers look nice. Are those high-end? They're actually not. Oh. And I had someone in here before. She was high-end-y.

And she was like, I like, I like, I have the same ones. I was like, you have the YSL ones. She was like, yeah, I have the YSL ones. You're Johnson and Murphy. This is Tony Bianco. Oh, that sounds fancy than my. You said Amazon. But they're Johnson and Murphy.

That's like a businessman's face. It is a businessman's special. Joey, I love you. This has been so much fun. Thank you for coming on. Please give me a good edit. I don't be hateful. I'll edit the shit out of you.

I'll edit the shit out of you. Can we hang out? Do you go out to dinners? Yes. Do you drink wine? Yes. Okay, good. And I smoke cigs.

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