Not Skinny But Not Fat - Justice Has Been Served w/ Scheana Shay

Episode Date: May 26, 2020

Since binging Vanderpump Rules from Ep 1, Season 1, I didn’t understand what the hell everyone wants from Scheana. Why does she get hate? Why is she edited poorly? Why the constant montages of her in a negative light? (from saying Rob 5,000 times, being called boy crazy, crying all the time, calling everyone her “best friend…”) But this season was EXTREME – from choppy manipulative editing, to making her seem DESPO for not one but two new cast members (and a-holes). It’s not ok! Hence the #JusticeForScheana hashtag! Scheana joins me today and tells me everything she thinks/feels about Max, Brett, Dayna, the editor, her current relationship (yas she has a BF!), and how she feels about being one of the only OG’s still waiting tables at SUR, hanging with newbies, and not having a lot of her personal life showcased on the show.  This episode was brought to you by: Sun Basket delivers healthy, delicious meals straight to your door. Sun Basket is offering $35 off your order when you go right now to SunBasket.com/notskinny and enter promo code "NOTSKINNY" at checkout. The Not Skinny But Not Fat Podcast is produced by The Podglomerate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

You got him the Apple Watch. Yeah, it was Thanksgiving. Does he wear it still? Every single day. This is not skinny but not fat. And I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is not skinny but not fat.

I am here with Sheena. I'm so excited to have you on. Thanks. I'm so not used to seeing you in like no filter. Can I just like, like I follow you on Instagram and you use filters and it's so nice to see you as you are. Oh, thanks.

Yeah. I don't like to wear a lot of makeup in quarantine. So the filter gives me makeup. And you got really skinny. Did you not? I did. I lost like 10 pounds in quarantine. I think I'm the only person.

That is not relatable. at all. I know. It's annoying. I don't like saying it, but it's obvious. So I'm like, why? How did that happen? You're home all day and then you don't eat? Yeah. And then it's like, I'll have like a big dinner. Like I'll usually, but it's like, okay, today when I wake up, if I have a busy morning or if I wake up late, then it's like, if I have to get right to my day, then I'm like, well, okay, didn't have time for breakfast. And then it's like, I'll maybe have a little snack, but then it's like, I don't eat until dinner. Or some days, I've just been, like I'll work out a little bit and then I'm like doing some stuff on the computer and I'm like what should I make for lunch today? And then I'm like, oh, I can't decide. And then Brock's busy and I'm like, I'll just eat later. And then it's like I forget and I'm just like not on my normal routine. I'm used to going to lunch and going to dinner at least like four times a week. So just being stuck in the house like having to cook every meal because I don't do a lot of postmates. So I just I I've been forgetting to eat i've not been doing it on purpose so i've been do extra like doing um

extra like heavy weights and trying to work out more to like put it back on but um i also just got my lips done so maybe my face looks smaller because my lips are bigger you got your oh because it's back it's allowed you can get you done again yeah my doctor opened back up this week so i drove to la yesterday got my Botox got my lips so they're very um they're very big right now wait are your teeth too? No. Same ones. I got them like five, five years ago, six years ago, yeah. Shut up. So maybe your face got so skinny, Sheena. I think my face is, it has gotten a little thinner. I also don't really have makeup on right now. No, you look great. I'm just, I'm like, what's changed? I met you a year ago when I came on your podcast in, in L.A. and

damn shit was different then like shit was very different you were just out of your Vegas life you were like magic micing it up in Vegas and now like first of all shit changed since a year ago shit changed since the show like you're in a relationship now with Brock yeah it's it's so crazy how much changes in a year like I'm so glad the fucking finale was on last night because I'm like finally I can move forward with my life like in every way where I don't have to relive the past watching old shit we have a secret revealed episode next week but then we just have the reunion which Brock was here for we filmed it in my den so it's just nice that like that that life is done a single sheena is dead

I don't have to watch her anymore wait are you quarantining in your marina delray house or in your palm spring because she has two you guys let's not forget she has a vacation home and an apartment yeah i'm in a palm spring we've been here for over two months we moved here on um st patrick's day oh my god wait so did you have banned like because of quarantine or because like for fun no because of quarantine yeah i mean i have a pool and a jacuzzi here it's a much bigger space than my apartment and as much as I miss the beach I've gone back twice I went and saw the bioluminescence waves which was like one of the coolest things I've ever seen but um as much as I miss the beach there are no amenities open at the place I live at and it's such a beautiful

apartment complex to not be able to use the pool or the gym to not be able to go to the beach it's like why do I want to be in Marina Del Rey to just sit in an apartment here's I live on a golf course and they just opened it up. So we've been golfing a couple days a week. Wait. So can you stalk Chris Jenner and the Kardashians too? Aren't they? Right.

I need to find out where their house is. You really do. Yeah. For like stocking work because I feel like everyone who has a house away right now is going to their like second home. This is how, this is when you find out that people have second homes. It's like in quarantine when they start leaving.

And Palm Springs is hot, right? Yeah. Yesterday it was a cool day. It was only 81. And so I had to go into L.A. yesterday. So I have like a sports bra, jean shorts on, no jacket at all. I'm driving into L.A. And then I look at my car and it says 63.

And I was like, oh, yeah, I forgot. It's not the desert. Oh, my God. So as you guys can see, Sheena has her nails did, shit in L.A. or like you can in New York I mean we're in the fucking shit of it but yeah well I've been doing press-ons and then but my Botox and lips I was able to get done this week so that that felt I've never like enjoyed a needle in my face so much oh my god we have so much to talk about this was like a season for you but also like a season for you like I you know even when I met you last

year I told you and I sincerely told you I was like listen I started binging Vanderpump and when you got backlash or hate from the girls or from fans I was always like why I don't get it and now we have some answers um yeah but we'll get to the editor stuff but more importantly I was even before she came out the fact that you were in this love triangle shit like you just said you're so happy the finale came because you can live your life and be done but like I'll you know you're going to have to go back there for today. I know you have other interviews, but watching it, being in it, like, in this love triangle

that's like not, like, you're not in love with any of these guys, but somehow you're like in it with the new cast, like, how did that happen? Tell me a little bit about, and Brett is this, I wanted to like call you and be like, Sheena, he's not a good friend to you. Oh, I know. I'm very aware of that now.

Okay, good. Yeah, that was the thing. Like, I mean, Max and I obviously, We have a past, and now him and I, I mean, we've come super full circle. He's one of my absolute closest friends. I talk to him all day, every day. My boyfriend and him are really good friends. We've had some like thruple dates down in San Diego.

And literally from the day I met Brock, that day in San Diego, we went and met up with Max at a bar. So like from day one, they've been cool. And they have a bunch of mutual friends from San Diego. So I loved that. and then like brock and brett are on a stupid fortnight squad together so like they became friends before the show started airing and i saw all the shit that he's been talking about me so now brock's just like like i know sometimes like they'll still play because like james and him

will be on a squad and then brock will join but brock like just doesn't interact with him as much because of all the shit he said about me and watching it back i'm just like this is not how it was whatsoever. It was not a one-sided flirtation. It was very much like Brett would say something and then I would comment back, but you didn't see a lot of his comments. So like there was like one time when Charlie and I were talking about like something about I can't drink some freezing my eggs and Brett goes, well yeah, now you just need some sperm. And I was like, oh, is that an offer? Like joking. But you don't see him say sperm. You just see. And I'm like, it was so frustrated because for day one it looks like I'm like pining after this guy who has no interest in me and I was like

no I said multiple times like I don't want to date him I don't want to hook up with him I thought he was a good friend at the time and I was literally just trying to replace Adam in my life not in a sexual way because I had that from other people I did not need that at all they were just guys who didn't want to be on a fucking reality show like one of them was a known person who wanted nothing to do with a bullshit, like what he thought, like a bullshit reality show. And I'm like, you know, it's not one of those scripted, like, bullshit shows, but whatever. He didn't want to be on it. So totally understood that. So it's like I didn't have many options of like guys to film with because the guy that was talking to at the time just didn't

want. And one of them even worked at Sir. And he's worked at Sir the whole time we've been on the show, but he did not want to be on it. He's never been on it. If you've ever seen a blurred face behind the bar. That was him. So it was like, my love life was great last summer. Singles Sheena was thriving. But what I missed was having that best friend that I had an Adam before we messed up.

So I learned my lesson. I grew from that. And I was like, I'm not going to make the same mistake with Brett that I made with Adam. Like, I'll flirt with him. Sure, I'm a flirty person. I flirted with everyone last summer. But I was like, I don't want to hook up.

up with him. I don't want to date him. And I made the mistake of saying in a conversation one day because someone was like, but you guys seem like you have so much in common. And I was like, I mean, honestly, like, yeah, I was like from like, like we had a lot of like deep conversation, like hours and hours long just sitting in my car in the back alley of sir smoking weed. I was going to say, I knew it was smoking weed. Absolutely. But like if I was driving, I wasn't smoking. If he was driving, like, Like, you know, but we would have these like long, deep conversations where I'm like, wow, we actually like are looking for the same thing in a partner eventually, but neither of us

were in the place to date. But it was like no one, no one was cool with like me trying to like take things slow and just build a friendship with this person and then see if maybe years down the road something happens. It was like I made the mistake of saying like, I don't know, like maybe one day because we had talked about how neither of us were ready to date, how we had a lot of things in common. Well, Sheena, but he made it seem that way because if he had your back and told people like,

no, we're mad, cool, like, we're just hanging out. She's a cool girl and I like being around her. No one would have anything to fucking say, but the issue with him was like either he was trying to look cool or something. Absolutely. Like a 12-year-old. And the thing is, I feel like Brett is, like, deceiving because he has this way of carrying himself that seems like he might be, that he's like a nice guy. I don't know. He talks

very like, Sheena. I don't know. Even the way he talks is like correct or something. I don't know. And then he's always worried about like his image and like he thought going on a reality show that everything was going to be exactly as is. That like none of his words would be edited. Every scene he filmed would completely make it on. And I'm like, you know, you're just filmed a two our scene. The show is 44 minutes long and there's 18 other people involved. Girl, but you're saying only watching it back, you got the full spectrum of like bread, but while you were in it, it felt like he was like a good friend and like a cool guy. He was such a good friend. Like he was so cool. And that's why everyone, because like even Danica,

there were several times that she said things to him. It's just, you can only see so much, you know? So there's a lot obviously you guys didn't see. But, Even Danica was like, Brett, like, we all see you flirt with Sheena all of the time. Like, why are you acting like this when you're with the guys? But then we see how you are with her. So it was like, everyone else saw it too. It wasn't just me. But then he goes and hangs out with the guys.

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promo code during checkout for $35 off your order. The music video. Regret number 72 with Brett. I mean, it was, it was, wait, okay, it was, I'm sure, isn't Brock like, how was he watching it? He watched it once just so he knew what it was. And he was like, I mean, I did cut a lot out with Brett. Like, there was a lot more footage that they showed on the show, which the fact that my producer sent them raw footage, I was not happy about.

But it was the edited version of the bedroom scene. And then we were taking parts of that out and adding in the dance scene. So that whole version, but I didn't realize they had one, like, of him, like, jiggling my ass. And I'm like, what, like, that was Brett. Like, he was like, like, all, like, flapping my ass. I'm like, oh, yeah, you were so uncomfortable as you were grabbing and jiggling my ass. That's a thing because a lot of people, because it is a sensitive subject, right? If someone says they feel violated, like, people can take that the wrong way, you know?

Like, if a woman said it, we would be, like, being like, whatever. And, like, I know for a fact, and I feel like most viewers, and did anyone come at you? you with that, like, be like, I mean, it was funny for him to even, like, oh, my, licking my ear. He just sounded so, I could just- Like a pussy. Like, do you know how many guys would have killed to be in your position? Yeah, exactly. You're a single dude. You do not look for us.

And I spoke to Danica, who's mad cool, by the way. And I know your, your friends. And she was like, I was there when Sheena told him the concept of the video and told, told him the name of the song, which is like kind of self-explanatory and told him it's going to be a lot of this. And then he pretends like, even the way he was like, I was violated. Like also the whole drive to Palm Springs, my other friend, Brett Kenyon, there's a lot of Brett's in our group. Danica's Brett. This Brett, Brett Kenyon, he works at Tom Tom. They were driving out together because Brett was come, my Brett was coming to just be like a PA and help out

with what we needed. And he's a very creative person. So I was like, oh, my God, that would help so much if you came to the house with him. So the whole two and a half hour drive, they're talking about the video. It's like, don't act like you didn't know. I told you. I told you in front of people. You and Brett were talking about it on the car ride. And then you get here and you're like, what?

We're filming in the bed? Like, the song is about having sex one more time, one last time. Did you think we were going to have like a fucking we just dance party? I mean, come on. Wait, did you confront him, though, Sheena, watching it back? Like, did he get a rage text? Are you not a rage text kind of gal? Oh, yeah, he got a rage text all right.

He got, he got many of rage texts this season. He got one back in November, BravoCon, when I saw the first episode. And he said I was a bad kisser. Oh, yeah, that was, that already was shitty. So from there, I, like, I unfollowed him. I was just like, dude, I'm done with you. Like, if this is the first episode of 20-something, and this is where we're starting off. I'm like, first of all, I got a big slap on the wrist from production for not

saying that we made out for two seconds before we started filming. I lied about it. And I lied about it because when him and I talked the next week at Sir, I was like, do we like say that? Do we make a he was like, what are you talking about? And I'm like, when you kissed me at my house this weekend, he was like, oh, I don't remember that. And I was like, oh, okay, cool. Like, we're good. Then like, I'm not going to say anything. Like, if you don't remember, like, I'm not going to be the crazy girl was like I mean yeah we made out on Saturday but it was like nothing it was drunk and like you know we were not sober but he said he didn't remember so I'm like why why would I then admit that we did if then they're going to go to you and you're going to be like that didn't happen

right and so I just said it yeah and then he said it was bad I'm like so first you didn't remember it at all but then somehow you do remember it and you remember it with that and who says that and who says that like like i mean everyone has come forward apparently you made out with like every girl on the show too everyone's like sheena's a great kisser which isn't even the question like a kissing is a chemistry thing and if it's bad then it's you know you maybe didn't have chemistry maybe you were slapping but no one again we're going to like age 12 whoever like talks like that especially like with a group of people especially being filmed and and i literally i'm such a good to of character. No, I immediately was like,

this guy's a douchebag. Like, if he's going to say that and talk, because, like, shit has gone down on Vanderpump. People hooked up. People had sex. I don't remember one person, like, describing how the other person was, or, like, it's just you don't do that. He's just a very weird individual

because I'm like, Brett, like, he tried to say, like, that, like, producer Jerry, like, tricked him into saying it was like, you know how it is when you're in that chair. try to get something out of you. I'm like, Brett, we both just watched the same show. Literally all producer Jerry said is, oh, are you saying she's a bad kisser? And you're like, that's exactly what I'm saying. Right. And I'm like, he just asked a question. You could have been like,

no, no, it just there wasn't chemistry. Yeah. No, you literally laughed, made a joke and then agreed. Right. He didn't force you to say that. He didn't trick you into saying that. We watched the same show. Okay. So, Brett is canceled. Moving on to that. He's so canceled. moving back to Max, who for some reason, I'm getting a lot of people are saying that he like legit has a sex addiction. He's a 27 year old horny guy who gets a lot of girls. I mean, so you don't think that's like a thing. No. No, I think that he's gone through what waves of maybe, you know, having a little too much with too many girls. But like, if he's single, like, who cares? I mean, I know I've been very single and have been with more than one person in a month.

So I think that was just kind of like an excuse. Like, oh, well, then you must have this wrong with you. And it's like, no, he just, I mean, Max has a great personality. Like, he, everyone's like, oh, he's not even that hot. And it's like, I mean, I think he's good looking. I wouldn't have dated him if he didn't. He's got the tattoos. He's that cool surfer vibe.

He has a great personality. He's hilarious. like it's very easy for him to get girls to get girls so what is he going to be like nope nope I don't want to get laid tonight like what single guy says no to that wait so you guys dated before filming and so how long was this like the dating um it was like a month and a half maybe I mean it was before Halloween till after Thanksgiving but you got him the Apple Watch yeah it was Does he wear it still? Every single day.

So Thanksgiving, he was coming to my house. And I had some extra money at the time. Like I did really well that month. And he's a bar manager. I know how much money he makes. He really wanted the Apple Watch. And they just came out with a new one that's waterproof. He's a surfer.

And I was at the Grove with Brittany. And I walked by the Apple store. and I was like, I should just get it for him, right? Like, he can't afford it. And she was like, I mean, probably not, but I'm like, I mean, I know I shouldn't, but like, whatever, like $900 to me that month was literally nothing. I was just like, I just did like an Instagram post for however much that I was like, but this is like, whatever, I'm just going to get it for him.

And I went into the Apple store. Like pampering people that you. Yeah, that's my love language. And I saw that like this one band, it was. like very him and I was like, fuck it. I'm just going to get it for him. Like, why he's going to not want it? And then when he opened it, he was just like, no, no, no, no, I cannot accept this. It's too much. And I'm like, but it's not too much for me. Because like, I make more money than you and I can afford it and I want to do this. So like, just please, like take it. But it wasn't

like he was like, oh, fuck yeah, thanks. Like he was very like, no, no, no, take this back. And I was just like, and even that made me want him to have it. that much more because it was like he was so appreciative of it and it was just like who gives presents for Thanksgiving and I'm like it wasn't even necessarily for Thanksgiving I just thought of him I thought him and I would be dating through Christmas at the time and I didn't want to wait another month to give him this because I knew it was something he wanted then he was saving up for and I was like fuck it I'm already saved up I got you yeah so do you not feel because like okay Brett, like, you felt betrayed by him this season.

Did you feel any, like, betrayal coming from Max? Because you said, you're the good friends now. I forget, did he, was he an asshole? I don't. The first two episodes that aired. I think it was episode two, because I remember, I went back and looked back at the day we had this conversation. And it was a scene where he's sitting at lunch with Dana.

And he was kind of like making fun of me for, like, freezing my eggs. And he was just like, we know, she's still a lot older than. me and she's like freezing her eggs and like said she got off first control and then it goes like Dana's interview by him was like well if you want to like make a guy run that's what you say first of all max when I met him I was still in it with Adam literally I went to tom tom that night because Adam told me and I quote to go to fucking hell because he couldn't find his Uber that I called him because he couldn't afford his own Uber his phone was dead whatever it was the dumbest fight tells me to go to fucking hell and I'm like okay I'm I'm too old to deal with this shit I'm

like I just want to go to tom dom have a drink hang out with my friends and that night I started talking to max and for like a month before that a few of the servers there were like oh max has a crush on you like he's always asking about you and I'm like yeah but like I'm kind of like you know like I mean Adam and I aren't dating but like we are he just won't admit that we are but like we are hooking up so like thanks but no thanks And then that night, when I was talking to Max, I was like, so I realized I don't have your phone number. And then the next night, we went out and got a drink. And then it was like that week, it was like, boom, dating.

And it was like, whoa, whoa. Like, it was really, like I was going to Chicago for Halloween. And I remember that entire flight. What is it? Like four hours. My, I was on Wi-Fi. And Max and I texted nonstop, that entire flight, just the sweetest, cutest, cutest things. And I was like, little butterfly.

And I'm like, oh, okay, I'm like, I don't feel like it's the right time to date. I just had a reading with Tyler Henry a few months before. He told me to focus on myself, not to focus on love, that love would come at the end of 2019, going to the 2020. Crazy. He saw it. But at the time, I was just like, okay, but this guy seems really fucking interested in me way more than Adam. Like, I haven't had someone feel this way about me since Shay. Rob was never like this.

Adam hasn't been like this. So it felt good. And I'm like, you know what? I'm not going to push away someone who's really interested because I feel like it's not the right time. Maybe it is. Like, let's see where it goes. So we talked that entire flight nonstop.

The whole time I was there, he's never picked up anyone at LAX in his life, like not even his mom. He picked me up when I got back from Chicago, like made me soup that night because I wasn't feeling well. And it was just like it was really cute. And I was like, okay, let's see where this go. and shortly after that he like went to san diego to go surfing and then it was like we had like a

snap streak that like we would snapchat each other every day and then it was like that day he like sent me something like really lame and then i just didn't hear from him all day and then the next day and i was like i'm stubborn i'm a tourist and i'm like well i'm not going to fucking reach out i'm not going to be like hi hello where are you i was just like and fuck it and then when he got back i remember it was just like a hi with like a wave and I'm like hi it's been a couple days like I know you went surfing but also that apple watch is waterproof you could have called he could have texted and then I like went over to his house and we talked and he was like look like I want to come over this week I want to cook you dinner like please like give me another chance and I was like all right sure and then

the night he was like supposed to come over he got stuck at work late and it was this and I was like I'm done I don't have time for these games and like I ended it because he was like it was just like then he started half-assing it and it was like well I'm in a bad mood and I don't want to come over and I'm like okay well I don't want to be with someone when they're in a bad mood they don't want to be around me and they don't want me to try and cheer them up like if you just want to go home and be alone then this isn't going to work out and this isn't what I want and so I ended things and then it just got kind of bitter there were like some things that I think were said and then I said something on a podcast

because I was like kind of butt hurt and I was like oh true colors and age were shown real quick and then that gets picked up by all these articles and then Sandoval's coming at me at a Christmas party like why would you say that that was so rude and I'm like then I felt bad and then one day I got acupuncture

and you feel so enlightened after acupuncture and this like song came on that reminded me of him and I texted him and I was like look I'm sorry I said that that was kind of rude and he was like, oh, I've been waiting for your apology. And then I'm like, you know, fuck you. Like, I didn't even owe this. I'm being nice right now because I'm in a very good enlightened mood.

And then I just kind of got annoyed with him. And then a couple months later, Miley Cyrus wanted to come into Tom Tom. And her best friend texted me and was like, hey, any way you can like pull off a table for like 12 of us. And it was like last minute on a Saturday night. And this was her friend asking me. And I was like, is Myel? coming or is it just like you and your friends because you know if she's coming i could probably pull some strings probably the saturday night like they're definitely full and she was like she's coming

just don't tell anyone i'm like okay i have to tell the gm but like i won't say anything to anyone else and so i'm like fuck i have to text max i have no choice it's for myly cyrus i have to text max and so i did he set it up i went in that night we had the best night of our lives and went to Doheny room, we went back to her house, like, that night, like, him and I just, like, re-bonded the next day we're like, can you believe that night? Like, we're both huge Miley fans. And I had met her a few times before. I know she watches the show. Our little sister has been friends for years. But just that night, going back to her house and hanging out with her and, like, we got into some, like, really deep conversations about our relationships.

We made jokes about me and Max. And after that night, I was like, why am I, like, holding on to like any bad feelings like your coolest shit like let's just like we're better off as friends so aside from that line which i remember he was pretty loyal to you otherwise like i don't feel like he he didn't talk because i feel like he never said like we weren't really dating like he always owned up that you were like a thing for right am i wrong am i missing yeah yeah yeah no he never tried to downplay it or anything because he knew what it was he knew everything he said I reminded him about it all in that scene, which was one of my favorite scenes I've ever filmed. I felt bad because him and I were in a good place and he knew that like we had to like film this

scene. Wait, which scene are you talking about? When I go to the boys night and I'm like, do you remember you said this? He said that. You said this. And it's like popped up all of his old text. Yeah, yeah. Damn.

But like at that time, it was like him and I were, we were in such a good place. And like even that weekend, I was in Vegas. And I texted Max and I was like, okay. actually low key you're right like I am a little boy crazy I realized that like I'm sorry I got so upset and I'm like when I get back I was like let's talk I'm like but you know what how our jobs are we have to talk on camera so like I just want to let you know like I'm sorry I overreacted like let's talk next week or this week when I'm back and so we did and then when the show was airing was like the second episode when he was at that lunch with Dana and then it goes to his interview bite

And he's like, you know, with Dana, there's a lot of depth. And with Sheena, it was like photo shoots or emojis, like music. And I'm like, are you, I'm sorry, are you fucking kidding me? Like emojis? And I was like, wait, I remember having an emoji conversation with him that he started. Because he was like, wait, he's like, okay, now like I have your number. Like, now I need to give you an emoji. And we were joking about like what emoji we would give each other.

I was like, you started the emoji conversation, not me. And after I saw that, I called him and I was like, look, this is only the second episode. But this is the second episode, you've said something that's hurt my feelings. Yeah. And I promise you, Max, if this is what we're in for for the next 20, however many weeks, we are not friends anymore. Our friendship is done. Because if this is how you talk about me behind my back, like Brett's already doing it.

Yeah. But you, I care about. Like, I love Max. So I'm like, if you are doing. doing this all season, I'm letting you know right now our friendship is done. And from that day forward, never would there one interview, one comment in a conversation, not once since that day because he does value our friendship. We love each other. We're such good friends. And that means something to me. Brett, there's no history there.

How did you get, like, find yourself in this, like, caring that he's dating Dana and then, like, kind of caring about the bread and, like, did you actually care that he was dating Dana? Did you have some jealousy? No. I didn't care about him dating Dana. What I cared about was this new girl coming on the show, getting her career filmed, and everyone going to her show and supporting her.

And I'm like, there was, I think, like, three out of our 20 cast members who came to Vegas that support me for my show. And so it was just like me kind of being like but her and like feeling like, okay, is my, is my job like at risk here? Like now all these new people are coming on. You're showing their careers. You're not showing mine. You're not showing my life.

They didn't, you know, really show much of my egg freezing and all of the things that were big in my life last summer that I was going through. And I was frustrated about that. And I just wanted to make sure that because Max and I had made so much progress, that I wanted to make sure that like when you are dating someone, like, don't push me aside. Like you still need to be a good friend to me because I have many of friends who are in relationships. That doesn't mean they're a worst friend to me. And that was the only thing.

And like I tried to like say, like, let's put Max aside because it's not all about dudes, right? Like you didn't vibe with her. You vived with Danica and Charlie and Dana. Danica, I've known for a couple years. So she wasn't like new to me. Oh, okay. Like we've spent the last couple of Thanksgivings together. So like her and I were already good friends.

Charlie, we just had so many similarities. We just vibes right off the bat. I feel like she's also like she had so many little interviews where I was like, that was funny. Like she has a personality. She's so funny. But like she wasn't shown. and I got, I heard you say this on a podcast at the beginning of the season about, you know,

feeling like Dana specifically her comedy shows, whatever were shown and that your, your personal things didn't get shown. And we talked about this last year with the Vegas thing because you had the show. And I didn't even know about it then. I was like, wait, why don't I know about it? And I totally got you because at the end of the day, like, if people want to say shit is petty, they can say whatever they want. But it's human nature to like compare. yourself to someone. Like I told Danica when she was on my podcast, like, if I was her, I'd be like, I'm new, Dana's new, like on the show. Like, why, you know, you compare yourself. There's nothing. Like, obviously you should be happy with, with yourself and everything. But I could

totally understand your point of view of, you know, a new person comes in and gets X, Y, and Z. And like, why you had a certain feeling about it. And throw in the fact that she started to date, max who like you actually had a thing with yeah but the max thing that was just what everyone thought but it was like i remember the first day like i met her and it was just like i kind of had this attitude where i'm like look you're coming into our group you're coming on to our show like you should be kissing our asses like i don't need to befriend you you need to be friend me and i just kind of had that attitude going into this season because there's like all of these new people and I'm like so I'm supposed to be the bigger person like I always am go out of my way

to make your job easier when mine is shit like why would I do that like no I got very selfish last year for the first time ever and I'm like I need to do me I need to worry about myself I don't need to worry about getting you camera time being your friend like I don't need to worry about that do you think Dana was doing that with other OGs but not with you for some reason um I just think that her and I's personalities are very different and the way we met, it just, it wasn't necessarily the right setting. I think we kind of just, I think she thought that I was jealous about Max. I thought that she was coming on to like, you know, take over like my job. And it was just, they were so Dana heavy focus in the beginning of the season. And I'm like, what, what show

am I on? And why am I still a waitress? And everyone else is moving. on with their lives. And now I'm stuck with these 20-something-year-old filming at the restaurant. Right. I was just so bitter. Wait, are you, how did you answer those questions to, like, how are you over that? Because I'm with you. I would feel the same way with everything who just said.

I, I recap the show, as you know, and I would be like, why is Sheena the only one hanging out with them and like, Forrest to, like, it doesn't make sense. Like, how are you over that? Because you're saying you felt that at the beginning. I think I'm one of the few OGs left. on this show who, personal feelings aside, I know that this is a show about Lisa Vanderpump and her restaurants.

And yes, our lives outside of it. But at the end of the day, the show is called Vanderpump Rules. The show is always going to be based at Sir. Maybe it spins off to other ones one day. But for now, this is the show and this is my job. And I take my job seriously. So if that means that my job is to bridge the new cast

with the old cast and to show up at Sir, you know, several times a week, then that's my job. And as bitter as I was, I was just like, well, this is my job. Stasi gets to be a celebrity on our show. That's her job. Am I jealous of that too? Totally.

Like, I wish we were all treated evenly. What do you mean gets to be a celebrity on your show? Like, she gets to have her podcast, her clothing line, her New York Times bestseller book, her like, she gets to literally live her real life on our show, whereas I'm not really a full-time waitress. Like, spoiler alert. This season, there were so many moments that, that, I mean, there's like a fucking Justice for Sheena hashtag or some shit. I know. Danny Pellegrino started it.

Oh, he started it? Oh, I didn't realize that. So there is something, right? It's not one person being like justice for Sheena. There's a legit, like your feelings are valid and validated also by a lot of people. So I completely understand you. And I mean, and at the end, it got validated that there was some sort of high. power supposedly high off her ass on power if I would I would say that that that was doing this to

you and you said nothing you didn't respond you didn't you didn't comment on it on Instagram everyone listening the editor of Vanderbump rules went on a podcast which again I don't get you went on a podcast with like one review and decided to talk mad shit thinking what like what are you doing with your life she basically said like Sheena should have befriended me I enjoyed showing her embarrassing scenes, and I would do that for funzies. So how do you, were you shocked or were you like, okay, this explains it? When I saw all of that, I mean, yeah, I was livid. And normally I would go straight to social media and rant about it.

But thankfully, I have an amazing boyfriend who sees the bigger picture, doesn't have an emotional relationship with the show just with me. and wants the best for me and he can see from an outside point of view and he's like we got in a huge fight that morning but I'm so thankful because he was like why are you going to do that? What good is that going to do?

You're just going to piss off more people. It's not going to change anything like how about you just don't go to social media and I was like no I was so frustrated but then I was just like calm down, smoke some weed get in your rational brain

and I'm like that is not going to do me any favors that's just going to piss off people and you're right like you know she said her piece but I don't even need to comment on it because she literally felled it all out was there some kind of relief for you

that you were like at least someone owned up to it and it's not just me being like I mean you actually never even said that you guys you never she never said my editing is bad, I'm misedited, I'm manipulated, like you're even the bigger person from before you've never even said that, but did you feel relief in like, hmm-hmm, here's the explanation because it was so obvious this season. Like, there was a scene with you and Brett, I don't know if

it's the one you were talking about with Charlie, where it's so choppy. Oh, no, when we're outside, it was two different conversations put in one. It was so choppy. Where he's like, I just, I just enjoy our friendship. And I'm like, well, maybe one day. Right, right. Oh, I don't know. I'm like we were talking about our exes in that conversation like there was so many it was like an hour conversation where there were two different subjects we're talking about and even a non-savvy uh watcher of reality television it's like it was just too it was like me trying to edit something it was just so choppy and I was like and then the Nikolai Stasi's brother I almost like had to shut

off the the show and you know how much I love it because I was like stop so so just To answer my question, did you feel any, I mean, you were pissed, you were angry at the smoke weed to calm down. You didn't comment, but was there any relief of like, here is an explanation for why this happened. Yeah, there was, I definitely like felt like, you know, like vindicated because I'm like, okay, I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy. Like, but, you know, I mean, I'm the first person to say, you know, if I said it, I said it, I did it. Like, this is what I signed up to do. I, it was just, it was frustrating when there were so many scenes that I watched and I'm just like, oh, it wasn't like that.

But then it's like, I'll get shit if I go and say, well, what really happened? What you didn't see? And so it's like, there's certain parts like where I said like, where Brett said sperm. And I was like, is that an offer? I'm like, yeah, I've said that in interviews because I'm like, here's just one example. And there were multiple times that happened. But I just, I just took it. And I'm like, it's fine.

This is my job. But, um, yeah. it was also I think just the audience seeing that and it being so obvious like the whole justice for Sheena I'm like I don't even really need to say anything because everyone sees it and everyone's saying it for me so that's what I was saying at the beginning of the podcast on one hand like this was a hard season for you but on the other hand like do you feel even more loved kind of and and that people like get you now because I I kind of feel that for you I think it's only going to, like all of everything this season, I think it's only going to work

like in my benefit eventually because I think people now have listened to my podcast, they've watched my YouTube, they've seen this season, they've heard those podcasts, and they're like, wait, she's not this one-dimensional, desperate, clingy, annoying person. And, like, there is more to her. And I think that, you know, if there is a season nine, I'm hoping that you'll see more of that. Because, I mean, I love my job. I love what I do.

It's just, it's frustrating when I don't feel that it's an accurate portrayal and it can affect other jobs. Wait, how old is Brock? Because Adam was young, Max is young. How old is Brock? He'll be 30 next month. Okay. We're moving on.

We're moving on. yeah my god sheena i don't want to be that person that keeps you from your next thing but i would talk to you so much longer about this i thank you so much for making time for me and i am so happy that the justice for sheena hashtag happened and that um you guys fucking can't believe this shit is over do what do what do we have in store for the reunion will it be crazy um there's definitely some crazy moments yeah and i mean we we we it from, you know, our living room. So it's different.

But I think for this one specifically, because there's so many cast members, there was like, I think like 20 or 21 of us, including like Lisa and Andy, maybe 20 total. So to have that many people in the same room, I'm like, are we going to have bleachers? Like, I think it worked out really well for this specific reunion to do it this way.

And I'm really interested to watch it because, like, I just saw clips from the Atlanta one, and I'm like, ooh, that's good. I know, because at first I feel like our initial reaction to Zoom reunions is like, ah, like we wish we could see you guys in person, but I'm looking forward to it. Yeah, I definitely didn't get that dressed up for it

because I'm like, I'm sitting in my den. Like, I'm not going to have a big, foofy, like, outfit. And then people are like, oh, my God, your dress is so boring. I'm like, I was sitting in my living room, like, in my dad. I agree. Andy wore like a hoodie to the summer house reunion. I was like, yeah, Andy's at home.

Like, makes sense. Yeah. Sheena, thank you so much. It was lovely seeing you. You look amazing. I hope your relationship is amazing and gets stronger and then we'll see it next season. Yes, me too. Thanks, Gina.

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