Not Skinny But Not Fat - JUSTINE LUPE
Episode Date: January 7, 2025Our favorite “Loser Sibling” Justine Lupe is here! We discuss getting the role of Morgan on Netflix’s smash hit Nobody Wants This, filming while in early pregnancy, being a new mom, whe...n shooting on season 2 starts, the types of characters she plays and more!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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Welcome back to the Not Skinny But Not Fat podcast.
I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars from my very own podcast where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room.
Hey guys. Welcome to a new episode.
I'm not skinny, but not fat.
How are you?
How was your winter break?
A lot of people's kids are going back to school this week.
A long school vacation is hard out here.
It's like every time these kids have to start over at school.
Noah's like, oh, school, these are my teachers.
This is my class.
I'm like, yeah, so remember, like, he's constantly on vacay and he needs to, like, get used to it every time over again.
He also requires a lot of activities and he's ready to go at 8 a.m.
He's like, what are we doing? Where are we going? And I'm like, let me plan it.
Anyway, so we're starting a new year. We're starting a new year. I hope everyone is starting off
2025 with a bang, not to be annoying, but I did make New Year's resolutions this year, which
I haven't done a gazillion years. I also went out for New Year's Eve, which I haven't done
a gazillion years. So maybe it is a New Year, New Me situation. Wow, it sounds like a New Year
and New Me situation. Yeah, I want to do more steps.
a day. I'm going to say 10K, even though who the fuck knows what 10K means. But I want to start
walking. I'm going to use this little treadmill that I bought and never used and
husband has been berating me about it. I'm going to say yes to more things. I usually
have this rule, which I think has kept me really grounded and, you know, I kind of loved
the way I navigate this industry, quote unquote, and what I do, which is, you know, I do my
thing, but I'm like, come home to my family. I don't go to like be seen. I don't go to everything
I'm invited to just to like look like I was there. So usually my rule was like, just go to things
that like you're either working or, you know, it's a friend's thing or it's a really, really
amazing opportunity that you can't give up. I do, however, want to start saying yes to more things
that are just, you know, like I'll know how to make the decision, you know, but maybe just decrease
the prerequisites to go,
meaning it doesn't have to be,
they're paying you,
you're going to meet Zendaya,
and you're,
no, you can go if it's like
a good opportunity or if you,
you know,
might enjoy it or,
I don't know,
I just want to be open to
more things, say yes more.
And I think from there,
I'll know what to say yes to.
And it started with me
going to this Hanukkah party this year.
There was like a Christmas party for Jews
and Selena Gomez was there.
So I was like,
and she's good with making choices.
But I wouldn't have gone.
like before I made this New Year's resolution,
I would have been like,
how am I going to like leave my family on Christmas and, you know,
what's, you know, just a party.
I'm going to go like how husband's going to have to stay.
So what?
I'm going to go alone.
And I would have just not gone.
And I'm happy I went.
And not that I talked to Selena Gomez,
even though I did stand next to her,
but it was a cool party to be at.
I talked to a lot of cool people and I,
and I didn't regret it, you know?
And I feel like most of the time I know what to go to where I don't end up being like,
that was stupid and a waste of my time.
And even if you end up going,
somewhere and it's a waste of your time.
It doesn't waste of your time.
But usually I'm kind of good with making that choice.
And I want to travel more.
I feel like I don't travel at all.
Now, I'm not a traveling person.
I think it's okay.
Like, you know, if you're on Instagram,
all you see are fucking influencers traveling every day at airports,
stuck at airports on this flight, on that flight.
That doesn't interest me.
Like, I'm literally, like, it gives me anxiety.
First of all, I'm not a great plane person.
Like, it does make me a tad anxious.
But I don't like airports.
I don't like sitting there.
I don't like being stuck there.
I don't like being stuck there.
planes, moreover, with children. But I have to admit that I wasn't a traveling person before kids
either. So I just want to put that out there. But I do want to make a point to travel more than I do.
So I will end up seeing more places, even though I will say, you know, don't believe everything
you see on Instagram. I've checked the weather for winter break because we thought to go away and
everywhere had shitty weather. But you won't see that on Instagram, right? Because everyone's
posting like they're, you know, just having the best vacation ever.
Anyway, welcome to 2025, you guys.
There is drama sprinkling into 2025.
We have the Justin Baldoni and Blake Lively drama really seeping into 2025.
It's going to get even crazier.
I did a little recap of what's been going on.
It's 20 minutes.
So watch that if you need to be kept up to speed.
But since that recap, we already have Justin Baldoni's $250 million lawsuit against the New York Times.
We have Blake officially suing Justin Baldoni.
And now his lawyers are saying he's going to counter-sue.
Blake, and he's going to expose every single text message between them that they already have,
which is crazy because I feel like Blake's suit started this text message thing, and now he's
going to ride this text message thing, which we'll see what happens.
But this has just become extremely, extremely, extremely dirty.
Another important update is that Megan Markle really booped us with January 15th.
She's coming out with a show with Love Megan.
And it's going to be like a very cooking show with like.
celeb friends, like
Mindy Kaling. I posted on Instagram
that I'm worried for her because I saw the trailer
and I was like, oh my God, are people going to come for her and say
she's not relatable and say this and to say that
and people came for me
and we're like, wait, wait, wait,
and we're screaming. I mean, I'm like, wait, wait, wait.
I'm just aware that fucking people
come for her and I'm scared that this won't help
this and that it's not going to do what she
wants it to do, but I support her.
I'm glad to say that it looks like the tides
have turned and I hope that I was wrong
and I hope when it comes out that the whole world isn't going to be
like this is so cringe like what is she doing she's not even filming at her house like why she does oh great you made a pie and people did say like she had this blog tig which was very kind of goop before she became you know a royal so it's kind of a continuation of that and people are saying it's not new it's not like her reinventing herself this is who she's been so i'm excited to see it anyway i'm also excited for you to listen to my episode today i've been waiting for you guys to hear this one as we know nobody wants this was one of the best shows this year if not the best show and like i
I said to Aaron Foster and Sarah Foster when they were on my pot before the show came out.
I said, you are going to be nominated.
And Aaron said, Amanda, are you kidding?
And I said, this show is going to be nominated.
So wait for it.
You're going to be in the category with the bear.
Everybody's going to be pissed because the bear shouldn't be in comedy.
Ha!
And guess what?
Yes, I was right.
Yet again, you guys.
And I am obsessed with nobody wants us.
The world is obsessed with nobody wants us.
Adam Brody made a comeback.
How rabbi is in our vocabulary.
And I, the person that I was most obsessed with on the show was Morgan, Joanna's sister,
who does the podcast with her, Morgan, who kind of plays Sarah Foster, played by the amazing,
the funny, the just great Justine Loop.
So I was like, Justine, come on my pot.
I love you so much on the show.
And she was like, okay.
And she's on my pot today.
So enjoy my conversation with Justine Loop.
She's just amazing.
I had so much fun with her.
So I hope you love it.
You guys, Justine Loop is on the pod.
Hi.
Just you know, there is a.
the pronunciation thing that says Lupe.
I know.
We need to take that down.
I know.
I was on a show called Christella.
Yeah.
And every single time, you know, like live audiences, you have to go out and you have to do like a
welcome, like, hi thing.
And they would every single time go, Justine Lupe.
And I'd be like, false advertisement.
Does it have like a little bit of a vibe.
It probably should because I'm Italian.
Like my dad's family was Italian.
So it should have that.
But it's been like beaten out of it.
And now it's just loop.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So that's where that pronunciation, Google thing comes from.
Yeah.
It means wolf in Italian.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah.
So we were just talking because you're cute babies here.
She is.
Oh.
Yeah.
Because you emoji her on Instagram or something, right?
Yeah.
She's not on Instagram.
She's not on Instagram.
Okay.
Yeah, we put little faces on her and stuff.
You put faces on her.
Do they know she's her?
I think so.
Okay.
Maybe.
Now they do.
It's a girl.
It's a girl.
Ella's the cute like I'm obsessed she's so cute she's really really cute so she's here in studio and like the dad's here he's pushing the little duna that you told me I need to open got to do it and you took her on this like press tour that you're doing yeah yeah there's no other option so I have I'm breastfeeding yeah and yeah basically if I keep it for more than like a day this I have high lipase which is this thing like breaks down the enzymes and in the breast milk so that the baby just doesn't like
It tastes so bad.
It can taste like mine, I tasted.
It tastes like so.
So tell the people, so you, you saw she was rejecting it, what, from day one?
No, like the first time I had, like, frozen a bag.
And so the first time that I used it, I, like, they, like, warmed up the bag, gave it to her.
She, like, just the bottle, she didn't take it.
Oh, because straight from the boob, it's never bad.
You're saying when it's, okay.
So when it sits, so from the boob, she loves.
Okay.
Anything but that, she does not prefer.
She will, she was spitting it out.
And I was like, oh, this is so.
weird. Like maybe I, did we wash this bottle well enough? Because like it tastes like so, I tasted it and it
tasted like soap. And then we did like another round and it tasted like soap. And all of my breast milk
after like a few days of freezing or like keeping, it turns into shitty tasting milk. So basically
I just like had to toss it all. And now I just have to have her with me all the time, which is like
great. But it's also like another level of just. So you call the doctor, you said, hey, did you google it?
I looked it up, I was like breast milk tastes like soap.
And it's like a whole thing.
The thing is with motherhood and babies, so much shit you don't know until you have to know.
Totally.
There's like always like another thing that you're like, oh, whoa.
And then you Google that.
It comes up.
It's like, oh.
Every day there's a Google.
You have a lipid, whatever, I'm never going to get.
Yeah.
So now I'm like trying.
High lipase.
Lightase.
Yeah.
What does that actually mean?
It's a chemical that's in your breast, like that some women have high amount of in their breast milk.
and it just is like, it breaks down the breast milk.
Like, it, like, breaks down the fat.
But it still has the same, like.
It's nutritionally the same.
Totally fine.
It just tastes really bad.
When it sits, when it sits, even if it's cold.
Even if you warm it.
So I can have it in the fridge for, like, a day.
I know.
It's really a mom on the potty yesterday that came to New York without the baby.
Baby's about the same age as yours.
Uh-huh.
And she is so funny.
So she came here.
She pumped when she's here and she left milk there, but she didn't bring anything to, like, freeze it or keep it cold.
So she was like, guess what?
I drank 10 ounces this morning because I wasn't putting that shit to waste.
Wow.
I mean, it does feel like liquid gold.
You know the feeling where you're like, oh, I don't like all these like freeze.
I kept them all.
I kept all.
Like I had, I think I had like 20 bags of breast milk in the freezer.
And I was like, I can't like throw it away.
How did you have so much?
Well, I'd been like basically collected.
because I had this feeling like, I'm going to need this, like, because of stuff like this.
So I was like basically like hockeying and like pouring it in there every single time or like if
she didn't like drain my boobs, I'd pump. So you had so much you had so much. Well, I kept it. Now this is
the newest leg of the race. I'm supposed to bathe in it or something. I'm not doing that.
No, no, no. No, no. Like the like ice. Have you ever seen like them like taking it and like
rubbing it all over there? Maybe just seen you saw this because I posted it and I was like enough.
A woman doing a facial with the frozen. Yes. Enough because I'm a breastfeed.
I love it. I think it's great. I think it's great however you feed your baby. But I, I connect with
it and love it. However, it doesn't limit to everything. Totally. It doesn't like, and people are
going to say no to this because my baby was born with like his tear ducks like didn't, they're still
clogged or something. They didn't produce tears. Or there's some clogged that the doctor kept saying
up to a year, up to a year. It's fine. And I was like, but it gets like kind of like goopiness and
it's uncomfortable up to a year, up to a year.
I'm like, okay, okay, okay.
Then through, like, Instagram, I found out that, like, if you just put a little bit of antibiotic, like, cream, it can resolve.
Uh-huh.
But the doctor was like, no, it's fine.
No, it's fine.
Everyone's like, breast milk, squared in breast amounts.
And here I am, like, poor baby.
You know, I did the same thing with her baby acne.
You know what they say, no.
No.
And it's like, it's like really like, you're like, okay, this is like another level.
I'm like, like, like hovering over my baby, like squeezing my tit.
Did you imagine, Lenny, like, being like, what?
Like, why are you squirting your move on my face?
And I swear made it worse.
Like, I literally swear.
And that's like my level of like, I think it's so great to give your baby this stuff.
But it's not a solve.
It's not a magical serum.
The woman, I thought it was a joke.
I was waiting for the punch that real that you're talking about.
She's like, psych.
We're not that crazy.
Sike.
My acne is like, anyway, crazy.
Okay.
So I'm doing.
Oh, you're doing something.
This is the thing, though.
Yeah.
Not that.
But there is.
I did do some research and there is freeze drying your breast milk. Have you heard about this?
Does it turn into candy? No. But it is like a thing where apparently like it takes out like all the water and the water has a lot of that flavor. So it reduces it down to a powder. And then I'm going to give it a go. It's totally crazy. Because you have so much. Because you have so much. And I just don't want to waste it. I probably won't be doing this like as a thing. And what the baby can eat it at some point? So you rehydrate it and it becomes so like it's like a way. Yeah. So. So you're.
you're going to try to give it to her or you're going to taste it first again.
I'm going to give it a go.
I'm going to probably taste it myself, then give it to her.
But, I mean, no matter what, it's nutritionally fine.
So now you're not pumping anymore because there's no real.
I pump when we do like a day changeover.
I see.
It's really like, isn't it wild the way that you're just like a slave to like the milk, the like, all of it.
You don't have.
By the way, a lot of moms that, that, right.
So there's the feeding enslavement.
Then there's a bedtime enslavement and there's, but how is that going?
Windows.
The wake windows.
Oh my God.
I like literally when I had the baby, I was like, I don't have to follow this.
I'm like, I'm like, literally, it's my religion.
I am addicted.
So like that.
At first you're like, fall asleep wherever you go.
I'm going to be co-sleeping.
And then you look it up and I literally the other day like he was going to sleep every hour
and a half.
And then I was like, wake window for five month old.
And then I was like, it's two hours.
It's two hours now.
She changed everything.
Whatever I'm doing?
And then now I think it fixed everything that he's now.
I'm keeping him up for two.
No, it's actually insane.
No, I did the same Google.
We didn't sleep at all last night.
We like literally, like we tried to put her down at 7.
9.30.
She was still like sobbing.
We're like, what is happening?
Because she's been like in a good phase.
And you're like what's going on.
And you travel now and it fucks everything out.
I think it's like either travel or it's like the like regression.
There's like always a regression.
Oh, do you have the wonder weeks out?
Where they're like, it's, oh, you know, like, it's Mercury and Retrograde.
And you're like, is there ever not a moment where we're in retrograde?
Did you download the Wonder Weeks app?
No, should I do that?
Okay.
It is a subscription.
I think you can afford it.
It's $35 a year.
Okay.
Because everyone's like, is it worth it?
I think it's worth it because you'll be like, why is she crazy?
And then you'll look at it and it's like, she's in Leap 4.
Okay.
So it's kind of nice just like we have the mercury.
And it feels like there's never.
It's true.
Okay.
Great.
So there are some weeks where they're like, things are breezy.
Yeah.
It is.
It says.
like less of a fussy face kind of vibe. I can't wait. I mean, truly it's like, she looks chill
though. She's, she was, yeah, I hope this isn't going to like, you know, you know when you have like a
good day and you're like, tonight's going to be a nightmare. Oh, I can't say like whenever I share anything,
I'm like, this is the gods, the sleep gods, the everything gods are going to hear me. I know,
and smite me. They're going to smite me for getting all high on myself. You're like, she's been
sleeping great. And then we're like next night, they're like, ha ha. And I also talk about how are you like,
a lot of your friends, like, with babies and stuff?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I have a mixed bag, but a lot of friends who are like a couple years ahead of me,
few friends with the same age.
Yeah.
I'm always hitting up Aaron, just being like, help.
What do I do?
Oh, because she's a little ahead of you.
Yeah, she's like too much.
She's like you, right?
Yeah, we were the same due date.
Yeah, we were the same due date.
Wait, May 29th, May 31st.
Well, wait, funny you say May 31st.
Let's backtrack her for a sec.
At due dates, we were both.
May 31st and then Lenny was like so big. Do you know my birthday is May 31st?
Do you know my birthday is May 31st? Shut the. Are you kidding?
Yeah, babe. It's a whole like section of our interview. Oh my God. No, that's what I was going to say.
Oh my God. So Lenny wasn't. Lenny was June 2nd. Is Aaron's baby is Noah? Early. It's May 31st.
She went early. She came early. But her due date was May 31st. Right. That I remember. So mine was late.
But our birthdays just seen and Amanda were May 31st. So sick. Did you look up your
Sun and yeah yeah what is it I'm okay so Sun Gemini moon aries rising Pisces oh wow okay
so we're Gemini and Venus Venus and Gemini oh shit I don't know that one you gotta know that's your love
fuck that's your love department okay so I'm Scorpio moon oh secretive no sorry not Scorpio
Sagittarius oh cool friendly fun yeah cute different story yeah yeah
And because I just learned this a week ago.
Uh-huh.
And are you, your adventures probably?
Cancer.
Rising.
Right.
So motherly, they say.
Yeah.
You love the home.
So you love how, like, you can really just like love on yourself when it comes to
your science.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm like, you're like, it says them amazing, beautiful.
You know, Aries moon is really problematic.
So I don't feel too proud of that.
Yeah.
Like, in what way?
Like, well, so it's your emotional state, supposedly.
And Aries is like very reactive.
But do you feel Gemini-esque?
Yeah, you're a total Gemini?
Are you?
Oh my God, about to get a tattooed on me.
I can't believe I having it.
Yeah, it's like very, very accurate.
Who you are.
Yeah, social, like, curious, really like mercurial, love talking, love bouncing.
Do you want to know who else has her birthday?
Because since I saw, do you know who else?
Pippa Sue.
Okay, I missed her on my list.
Leah Thompson.
Okay, missed her.
Brook Shields.
Yes, Brooke Shields.
Thor, Thoreau.
I've gotten deep.
He's kind of, okay.
No, not Justin, Henry, the writer.
Yes.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I meant that.
Justin Thoreau.
Don't put me on that.
Not true.
Who are yours?
Okay, we have Clint Eastwood.
Interesting.
Colin Farrell.
Oh, that I knew.
That's cool.
And May Whitman that I love.
I do love her too.
And she's so good.
She's so us.
She's so us.
Just the three of us.
I've never met her, but I did.
I actually just.
Cole DM turned invited her to a party.
So. What?
If you hear this, May, come to my party.
Did she see it?
I don't know.
I haven't done a check-in.
It was like truly, I'm hosting.
Wait, I wouldn't be invited.
Come to L.A.
I know, I'm not in L.A.
Yeah, it's a fundraiser that I'm doing with Doin for Planned Parenthood.
Oh, that's so cool.
Yeah, it's cool.
I'm excited.
And she also just had a baby.
So it's mothers, kind of, or no?
It's not mothers.
It's just people that I was like, ooh, I would love that would be cool.
Oh, should I pinger?
Should I be like May?
Definitely, ping her.
Tell her that you're coming.
I'll be like, okay.
Stand her up.
So obviously everyone knows you were on so many shows,
like Succession, Marvelous Miss Maisel.
Now nobody wants this.
Yeah.
Do you feel like this moment,
because Succession is fucking huge,
Ms. Maisel is huge.
Like, do you feel like that nobody wants us
was like this even bigger bump
that you weren't expecting?
Well, yeah.
I mean, no, I was not expecting it to be this, like,
sensation.
I don't know if you can, like, expect this level
like phenomenon, you know, like it being in the cultural, like, I didn't expect it with
succession either.
I knew, like, oh, this is a beautiful show.
Like, I could see it visually.
Like, I would be watching the monitor and be like, oh, this is like a gorgeous show.
And it's so smart.
But I had no idea I was going to, like, blow up in the way that it did.
And same with this.
I will say, you know, when you have like an infant, it's like you're so disassociated from,
like, the world that I'd say, like, this moment and like coming out here and doing like some
press stuff is like the first time that I're like really or like going to parties. Like there's
been like a few things that I've gone to for PR. Is it interesting though? Like explain to us
the biz that like is stuff happening now just because you were giving birth when it came out?
Well, yes. Is it happening now? So basically like before I had the baby, I was like, I can't, guys,
I can't do what I'm not going to do PR before like. And Kristen was like, I've got this. Adam was like,
I've got this. Don't worry about it. And everybody was like kind of okay with that. Like my agents were
like, yeah, don't worry about it.
And because you were what a minute after birth or were you before like it was coming out like all the lead time for PR would have been while I was like nine months eight months pregnant. And then it would have been like right when like a month after I have the baby. So I was super duper postpartum. And and everyone was kind of like not. Nobody expected the show to be what it was. So it was also like the moment that it kind of like hit the way it did like everybody called and was like you really do actually.
Yeah, you should probably.
And so I was like, okay.
And also now we know there's going to be a season two.
Yeah.
Did you know, like, way?
No.
I think I knew, I think I had a good feeling about it when we started, like we did, like, I did one day of press for Netflix before the show came out, like a junket.
And they were so excited about just internally, like all the people who work at Netflix really loved watching the show.
And my agents had watched it.
they were like, oh, it's really cute.
So I kind of had a good feeling, but I think it wasn't until, like, the numbers came in.
And you were like, oh, whoa, like, I just didn't know.
I don't think anyone could have called, like, that it was.
I remember, like, I don't love watching screeners because I like to watch it with everyone.
But I remember, like, I was talking to some press people, and they were like, I mean, this is the best show of the year.
And I was like, when Aaron and Sarah came on the pot, I was like, I want to watch a few episodes before.
And I was like, this is fucking, this is going to be huge.
And it was before everyone watching it.
I was like, Aaron, this is like, a award.
I was like, this is Emmy winning.
You're going to be in the car to board with the bear.
How are we going to move them out of comedy?
I was like already there.
And then, but I even wasn't expecting, like, you know, how pop culture does take it to a different level of like.
Oh, my God.
The Mames.
The Adam Rode obsession.
The fact that they, everyone took it so, like, personally in terms of like the romance stuff.
Totally. And there were all these, like, yeah, I mean, to speak to the Adam Brod, like, the fact that he created the hot rabbi, like the thing, which is going to be like a cultural thing. As a Jew, it's not a thing. You know what I mean? Like he made it a thing. Yeah, now it might be. But now it's a thing. Now I went on Yom Kippur and I was like, are there any hot rabbis here? It's like he's cute, but like literally that was in my head. Totally. It like opens up. It's, you know, like, quantum physics where you like see the thing that you didn't know was there because you know about it now.
And also Joanne and how she is like a lot of girls see that, you know, the too much versus, you know, you're not, or you're not enough.
I saw that in a lot of places.
And the, like, dating in your early 40s thing, which are like, I have so many friends that are in their late 30s and they're, they haven't met their partner yet.
And it's cool to watch, like, a different version of that rom-com where, like, people are, like, more kind of, like, realized versions of themselves.
And also not the version of, like, it's still fun dating, even though the age is not 20s.
And it's not like, when are we getting married, when are we having a baby?
Yeah.
No, they're not even talking about it.
They're not even talking about it.
It's still, like, hot.
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So, Morgan, when you got the audition for it, or was it, like, what was the
audition?
Yeah, I audition.
So how did you, did you know to, like, were you kind of basing it off?
Sarah, it's not really Sarah-is-esque.
So I, it's so funny because, like, she hates the fact that I,
anyone ever says it. It's like Sarah, but I'm like, babe, I definitely listen to your podcast a lot to
get like a little bit. I mean, like, there's just like a certain like way that she carries herself.
Yeah. It's like a little bit, you know, it's like a little, it is something, you know?
It is something. So it's not exactly Sarah, but I didn't have, I knew of them. I knew of Aaron and
Sarah, but I didn't know the voices. But I read, I got the audition and I read the sides and I like
immediately like heard the woman. Like I was like, oh, I know this person. I know this voice.
And then I was like, it was, it felt very autobiographical.
So I was like, I'm going to like get into listening to their podcast and kind of like get.
And I was like, oh, this is like exactly what I read.
That's so fun probably to have like a well.
Yeah.
Because like so many characters are completely made up.
It's like what you see on the paper.
And here you have like the podcast, the sisters.
Yes, the mom like, you know, Lynn, the whole, the whole world.
Yeah.
It was fun.
And I had a, and I, like, dressed like Sarah for the audition.
I, like, wore, like, a black turtleneck, like a favorite daughter, like, black turtleneck.
Wait, did you really wear a favorite daughter?
Yeah, girl. Yeah.
Did they know?
No, I didn't go in there and, like, that would have been too, like, much.
I'm like, I'm, like, truly bright.
I'm like, guys, I bought your outfit.
Yeah. But I, high-wasted pants, like a belt, like black boots.
Yeah.
Like, I did the whole thing.
Also, I was, like, one month pregnant.
And as the show went on, I, like, felt like, I was, like, a boat, like, like, like,
drifting away from like Sarah's body like sorry Sarah I'm so sorry I'm done a disservice to your body
I'm slandering your body no no one could tell I mean they did a good job like I feel like now if
you say like could we notice that you were like at different angles and stuff or no like now in
for sure I mean it's like now you know there's something like everybody watches the show so many times
that they are all like seeking out the little things so like people like you know like look at like
what did they text each other like and
one of the things that people are looking for now
is like the moments where you can see that I'm pregnant.
So you auditioned at one month pregnant.
Somewhere around there.
It was like one, two.
And then like we started at like three.
Was it crossing your mind like,
what if they started shooting and I'm seven months pregnant?
Like how do you do that as an actor?
I mean, a lot of it was like,
please your God, let me not show.
I'm tall.
Like, let's just like,
because the other thing is you're like,
I found out I got the job.
I knew I was pregnant, but I also was like, I'm in the very early stage of pregnancy where it's
like a vulnerable time to be sharing with people that you're pregnant. So it was like, there was
like this weird thing where I was like a responsibility to my privacy and also a responsibility
of the show. And I kind of went with myself over the show. Yeah. I was like, I guess we're just
going to have to figure this out. But I was like, okay, it's going to be like a three month shoot.
I'll be done by the time that I'm like really showing. So I did do a lot of thinking about it.
But it also was like a little bit nerve-wracking. And I was. Right. Because you're
Like, am I going to pop?
Yeah, am I going to be doing a disservice to the show by being like, you know, in the last part of it, maybe like, look pregnant?
But, you know, the more you learn about, like, again, Google, like, who's been pregnant?
Oh, my God, so many.
Everybody is so many.
And the bags that they put and the whatever, like.
Kristen told me that she, like, filmed a sex scene with, I believe, Adam Brody when she was, like, seven months pregnant.
Wow.
So it's like, there's much more, you know, like.
And then people misunderstand.
understood you as the internet does because you had mentioned something about how great everyone was about
hiding or something.
So there was like a narrative of a that I hid my friend, my friend, I hid my pregnancy from everyone
the whole time.
And that was just like not the case.
It was like, oh, she hid it through the whole thing and like reveal it wasn't that.
It was just basically I was saying in the very beginning of the process, like people didn't
know that I was pregnant because it was in that like window where like there's like 30% chance
of you having a miscarriage.
Yeah.
And so I kept it private until I knew that it was, like, pretty safe.
And were you already filming?
Yeah.
Wow.
So the first part of it, the reason why this came up was the first part of it,
we'd be, like, filming.
And, like, they put me in these, like, tiny little, like, Gucci skirt.
The poor Nagar, like, the first, the first, our costume designer, the first fitting that
she did, she had me in, like, little bitty, like, I was in shape when I got the part.
And she had me in these, like, little tiny, like, mini skirts and, like, midriff.
And I was, like, sitting there, like, hot flashing through them being, like, this poor woman.
Like, all this work is going to go down the drain in, like, a few weeks.
But, yeah, while we were on set, there was, like, one moment, especially that, like, especially stood out.
It was, like, two in the morning.
And, like, they had put me in this little tiny, like, jean skirt.
And they'd already had to cut the back because I was, like, too big to fit in it.
And then in between takes, I'd be, like, unbuttoning it and, like, unzipping it and, like, letting my time.
on me out. And then like when the camera wasn't on me, I'm doing, and everybody's sitting there going
like, what is going on with Justine? Like, she's like falling apart. Like, she's truly like collapsing as
this night goes on because they at that point didn't know I was pregnant. And also it's hard to
even be shooting until 2 a.m. when you're pregnant at the beginning. Oh, my God. The first trimester
is gross, as I recall. Yeah. Yeah. I was just at the tail end. It wasn't gross. I was exhausted in a way that
I've never felt.
Right. It's, oh, yeah.
I felt like I had, like, mono or something.
Right.
I was just like, oh, this is what actual exhaustion feels like.
Right.
And then I didn't have any morning sickness, thank goodness.
And then, like, it's this magical thing, like, when you hit the second trimester.
I don't know how it was for you, but for me, it was like, oh, everything's like, br-d-d-da-da.
And you're like, oh, I have more energy.
Yeah.
So most of the show, thank goodness, took place in that pocket of the second trimester, which was like, so
basically just the front end was like intersecting with the show or like the very back end of
the first and then I went in so cool that it's like the story of with your baby you know alongside
this show right I know I got it when I was one month pregnant then we shot it I know she was with me
the whole time I know it's cool I like had just done you know succession the last season Sarah Snook was
pregnant and so I watched her go through the whole thing and I saw her like doing like the most
incredible work pregnant.
Like she was also like vomiting out of like transpo vans because she was like so, you know,
sick and constantly like napping on some like surface.
But she just was doing such amazing stuff.
And I think that that kind of like helped me help my mentality going into it.
I was like, oh, okay.
Like this is like honestly.
Because women can do everything, you guys.
Totally.
Literally.
And also we're like in the most creative.
I mean like we're literally creating like at like the heights of creation like,
creating a baby. And I do, I mean, not to sound too, woo-woo, we've already done in our astrology.
I do feel like there's like something to like that creative energy that like can be applied to
the work. And you're like, so there was something about that where I was like, oh, this is like,
I'm excited about this. And I felt like I was in like a good headspace and it kind of like
contributed like a little. And you know what it might have also, because a lot of people when I was
still working too, like, why are you doing? And then I was like, you want me to sit at home and be like
You know, like, then I'll, like, go crazy.
I'll probably feel all these symptoms, like, keeping busy.
Get neurotic.
Like, truly, once I rapped is, like, he could attest to it.
I was the most neurotic.
Like, the last few months, I was, like, truly bongers.
Because you had the time.
Yeah, yeah.
What were you going crazy about?
Well, she was breached.
Yeah.
So she was breached, and that was like, I mean.
What happened in the end?
Well, I did the ECV.
Do you know what that is?
When they turn her inside?
Yeah.
They, like, take your.
belly from the outside. It's so scary.
And you just see, like, he was watching, like, her whole form just, like, shifts around
and then it plops. It can't, it, it worked for me. Thank goodness. It doesn't. And, and what's so
funny is then you get into the birth and you're like, oh my God, like, everything just goes out
the window. There's like, it's the Wild West. Like, like, all the, like, kind of ideas. When I found
out she was breach, I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to miss out on, like, my husband and I,
like, connecting through the labor. I'm not even kidding. I was like, that was the
I was most concerned about is I was like, I just, like, wanted to, like, really, like,
go through the labor together and, like, connect and, like, fast cut, like, hard cut to the labor
where I'm, like, literally, like, he's just, like, like, just a sound, like, somewhere off
in the distance, like, no, like, you're on another, like, planet.
Like, I'm like, are you here?
I don't know.
Like, I.
What do you think about Aaron doing the, like, homebirth?
Right.
Because you ever.
You can do it.
Great.
I mean, it wouldn't have worked out for me because I, she was Sunnyside and back labor, like, flipped
the wrong way.
I immediately went into, like, crazy, like, two-minute apart contractions, like, super painful, like, no, like, foreplay at all.
And then I did eight hours like that.
And they checked me and they were like, oh, she's sunny side and your 2.5 centimeters dilated.
And I was like, and I will be taking the epidural.
Thank you.
Bring me the epidural immediately.
Well, you had that little bit where you were like, maybe I won't.
Yeah, totally.
There was like a part of me where I was like, I'm going to try.
Like, I'm not going to let my ego get in the way if I won't do it.
make so much fun of us, just like the manicure ladies do, you know?
Yeah.
I feel like they're like, she thinks she's going to.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
No, so many people are like, okay, have fun with that, babe.
But then I had like so many friends who did it without.
I have one of my best friends had a baby without an epidural.
She did at home birth.
Like, I have another friend who did, I mean, Aaron did one.
Right.
Another friend who just has had two babies unmedicated.
So I thought, like, maybe there was a way.
But then I got the epidural.
And I was like, oh, my goodness.
Like, this is got.
God's gift to humanity, to humanity, like, to Western medicine.
Like, I mean, I would have loved to do it without it, but I also was just like, this is
amazing and I could really enjoy.
I really enjoyed the second half of my, yeah.
What, the pushing?
Yeah.
Yeah, I like the pushing and, like, I think, like, the epidural just, like, everything felt
so much better.
I felt like I've been, like, taken out of the depths of hell and, like, put on, like, a cloud.
And I was just like, oh, everything's fine now.
Like her heartbeat would come in and out of being like just out.
And I was like really calm about it.
I don't know if the physical calm like that's up a girl, I think, by the way.
It happened with my baby too.
And that's the only scary part.
Are you like, am I knocked out of like understanding what's happening?
No, I literally started flipping me over and I was like, am I okay?
But then like that's the weird thing about this thing is that although you're in a hospital and like some drugs and whatever, it's still so primal that like flipping me over helped the heartbeat.
Oh, totally.
Totally. And then they're like, fine.
Because she's, like, finding her way through there.
Yeah.
But what was amazing is she, like, basically had done eight hours.
And then, like, the epidural took me in, like, three and a half hours from 2.5 to 9 centimeters.
So it was, like, a very quick labor.
Wow.
They turned it off and I did, like, 25 minutes of pushing.
Amazing.
So it was kind of, like, a dream, like, scenario.
I mean, like, I think it's so cool when people can do it on medicated and, like, you know, seeing those pictures of Aaron and, like, hearing her story.
That's what I told Aaron on the pot.
I was like, you did it for the picture.
She looks so cute.
I was like it's, everyone does it for the pictures.
She did say, oh my God, if you had brought a camera into my birth, like, I would have been like,
please burn those photos.
We took like three photos, like, I literally.
Do you have the photo when the baby's born, like, and it's not cute?
And my partner was like, it looks, you look like Chris Farley.
Like, Chris Farley is alive and well.
I was like, I do.
I like truly had been like pumped with like so much like liquid that my whole like face.
I was like, thank God we didn't hire a photographer to.
come and do this because I would have been like, please burn them all?
You know that they start offering this at the hospital?
Did they offer this to you at your hospital?
Uh-uh.
New York, they came around.
They're like, so would you like a photographer?
I'm like, are you okay?
That's so funny.
They want to charge you for it.
They literally offer you in the hospital.
We'll bring a photographer and we'll just add it to the bill.
I wonder how often people are like, yeah.
I mean, it does sound like a smart.
Is it like the smartest thing or people in that state, they're just like, fuck off.
They're literally, I felt like, are you?
except I'm too nice and I'm like I don't know like come back to you and I don't know how did your labor go was it it was it was good aside from that moment that like they tell you during that badura like this might cause and you're like okay and then it caused and I'm like and I felt so guilty in that moment I was like shit I've done a home birth you know I mean yeah I know the feeling at that moment of like I just caused this I took this for the pain and this is what happened but it's such a common thing I feel like the heart rate has got to be like I mean I there's
There's no such – the baby's being, like, shoved through all kinds of things.
Like, I'm like – I think I was just scared it would be – I think the fear in that moment is not a life or death.
It's just – it could go from this to, like, an emergency C-section.
Totally, which is like the fear.
And that just causes, like, anxiety, you know what I mean?
But it's still, like, a normal thing.
Yeah, totally.
And how are you feeling now?
I feel – my body feels good.
It doesn't feel like my body quite yet.
Like, it's still, like, not completely, like...
Healed.
Yeah.
But it's also just like, I'm, I will say I'm more like, I'm just like, oh, my God, you're
amazing.
Do you know what I mean?
Like, the fact that it did that, it's just so crazy.
And mostly now I'm, like, feel like the suffering is like all, like, mental, like, sleep deprivation stuff.
Where you're just like, okay.
There's a meme that's like, if we got the eight hours of sleep, then it would all be good.
Yeah.
But I feel like she sleeps well and you're not saying it.
I have a feeling.
No, no, so this is the thing.
She's not sleeping good, no?
No, she's really not.
He, like, we just lived through, like, truly.
Like, it felt like a war last night.
Yeah, but she also was on a plane, and she came here.
Like, it's a lot.
Totally.
I mean, I feel like, I feel, like, her little bottom.
Like, it's hard on our bodies, like, this poor baby, but.
She's just happy to be with you.
I really like that.
But it's true.
But it is true.
I hope that that's the near.
I, like, I'm going with that is, like, it's all fine.
And it's actually good for her to be, like, out in the, like, seeing you day.
experiencing, like, new environments.
But I will say she, she did really, really good for, like, months.
She's done well.
Like, she's not, we're not, like, I think that's why these nights where you're, like, hit
with just, like, the regression or whatever it is that's happening.
Yeah.
You're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, no, we've, like, we had it.
Like, we had something going.
Yeah.
Lenny had it a week ago and his teeth came in.
Yeah.
Like, that's what happens.
He was good.
I was like, he had it.
I posted it.
I told the sleep gods.
I was like, everyone, he's sleeping through the night.
I know.
And then a day after a week of enjoying it,
I was like, his little teeth are coming in.
Oh, fuck.
And then, like, literally, you're fucked again.
Everybody says it's like,
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Like, you've got two weeks of it,
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Like, don't get too smug when it's, like, great.
Don't get too low when it's like shit.
Right.
Because it's going to change, like, the next day.
It's going to change.
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I think we're pushing for late January, early February. Yeah. I'm so happy about this timeline.
Me too. It's a, yeah, you are. I mean, I'm like, it's, I'm excited. I'm excited for the timeline. I feel
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Yeah, strong nationalities.
Well, my big boy is a Leo and my baby is a Gemini with Gemini Men.
Oh, Gemini Man.
A Gemini Man, I don't know.
Colin Farrell, though, kind of changed the game.
I only had like Trump and Coney West as an example.
Yeah, I know.
It's like, oh, God, you want to do better.
Jim and I mean, we have to do better than this.
But I didn't know about Colin Farrell till today until I looked it up.
Yeah.
I'm happy we have him.
Me too.
Thanks, Colin.
Are you watching Penguin?
I'm not, but I still love him.
Are you watching it?
Yeah.
We watched.
When it's good.
Yeah, it's like incredible, the prosthetic situation going on there.
Like, you truly can only tell it's him through the eyes.
But is that why you're watching?
Him and Krista Miliotti.
Yeah, she's so great.
She's so good.
And I was like, and I'm like, I have to watch for her.
It's not really my, like, genre.
Right.
That's what I'm wondering for me.
Yeah.
I don't know if it, I don't know your taste, but I do feel like it may not be your genre.
But, like, maybe you could just, like, watch a few episodes just to see them, like, throwing down.
He's so cute.
Yeah.
I want to ask you more about working with Chris and Adam.
First of all, were you an OC girl?
No.
No.
I, like, watched a handful of episodes.
Uh-huh.
I knew, I, like, had, I knew enough to have crushes on him and Ben McKenzie.
Like, I was involved in, like, I could touch it.
But I wasn't, like, someone who's sitting there, like, binging all the whole thing.
Uh-huh.
No.
So were you excited, though, with the prospect of, like, working with him?
Yeah, it's so funny.
When I was one of my first jobs was a show called.
Southland. Do you remember this show? I remember hearing of it. So Ben McKenzie was the lead
of that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. It was like a cop show or something. Yeah. And like I got this job like right out of
school where I played like a girl who was like in bed with Ben McKenzie who's like having like a thing with. And then like someone
comes home and I like have to jump out a window. Like I'm having like some sort of like fling affair with him.
And I remember laying in that bed and like kissing him and being like, oh my God. Like 12 year old me would be like freaking
out right now. But with Adam, it was more of just like, oh, I've heard he's like such a nice guy.
Yeah. It was less of like, oh, my crush. It was more just like, oh, I've heard Adam's like, great.
And I'm really excited to work with him. I need to tell me if these rumors, because TikTok is wild, right?
Like, we can't believe everything that they say. Yeah. But there is somewhere that's saying that, like,
the storyline with you and loser brother sibling is going to kind of end or something?
I think Aaron like went and said that. Oh, okay. I think it's not. It's like, it's like, it's
like coming from like her being like we're not gonna oh so she so maybe that's they don't want it to
okay first of all there's literally a vogue article that was like no not all of us want yeah yeah
Morgan that was me and tim right that was tim and i yeah yeah right then not everybody wants you guys
to hook up well i agree for me i'm like isn't there so much more fun to be mind out of like
us becoming these like weird friends than there is to like destroying a family right that
wasn't the vibe. That's not, like, fun. Yeah.
Like, where's the comedy and, like,
in an affair with a child involved,
like, just, like, tearing apart, like, a home?
Yeah, so maybe that's why Aaron said it.
Because, like, she didn't. She said it before.
Huh. She said it before, or else I would have been, like,
way more diplomatic about being, like, I don't know.
I don't know. I don't think I would have said that, obviously.
But I think I would have been, like, you know,
whatever the writers decide to do, like, we're okay with.
But I definitely, like, you know, we went into the writer's room and, like,
had a chat and they were like, we want to hear your feedback. And one of the things that I said
was I was like, I think there's a lot to be mine out of these two being pals. Yeah. And they had already
again, you have such good chemistry together. I've also seen in interviews and stuff. Yeah. I mean,
I loved him. Yeah. He's the best. He's like, he's become like a really, really, really good friend.
Oh, that's so cool. Yeah. And working with Kristen. Did you know before? No, I didn't know before.
I like, you know, knew a lot about her work. She's like the most like sparkly person. But no, we had
met and like she was so sweet the first like my screen test she like we're on like a couch like
like this and she like hopped over the couch and she's like big fan of your work I was like and
you're the sweetest thing immediately was like do you want to hug do you need what do you need
what can I help you with like do you want to run them like she was just did a really good job of
making it feel like we knew each other right away so that was yeah a good way to start you're so good
in this thank you like now it makes me want to watch again like after meeting you
thank you that's like I'm like I want to watch it again
Because I love, it's easy.
It's an easy watch.
Yeah.
Go do it.
Yeah.
What was, what would you say is like something that you are like Morgan in?
Because you're obviously not like her.
I think I give unsolicited advice in the way that she does.
Like I always have like some, like, I don't have casual friendships.
Like all of my friends are my like friends.
And so I think I have like a high level of investment in their like well being and
them making like good decisions. And so I've like had to learn to like fuck off a little bit when
I'm like overstepping my boundary in terms of giving my opinion about what's going on or like being
like taking care of them. You know, I've had to like learn when it's none of my business and like
because you know when you have like friends who have like crappy boyfriends or like dating someone
that you're like, ooh, why are you doing that? Or like I feel like it was for a long time my instinct
was to like protect them. Yeah. And now you don't do that. Well,
you know what happens. Then they don't tell you stuff. Yes. And then the friends don't tell you,
kind of like you don't tell your mom when your mom turns on your, if you have a shitty boyfriend.
But yeah, I have a friend too that stopped telling me stuff. And I was like, why don't you tell you?
And then I realized, oh, because I'm like a hater. And then you're like, okay, I get like, honestly,
like every relationship I think does serve a purpose. So I've kind of like pulled back and then like,
okay, they've got to do their thing and if they want to come to me. But it is even then,
even when they come to you, it's like hard to like, because if you give like,
yeah he's a dick and then they're like back on the train with that person then they're like
oh i know that my friend thinks that he's like an asshole you know i love i love about morgan
that she because you asked me like justine asked me what i love about morgan so i'm to tell you
i love that she can like sound like a basic bitch uh-huh but she's smart yeah you know
that's what i love i'm sorry but i'm sorry but like sarah's really smart and i think she
kind of, like, in moments, like, she can, like, people would look at her and be like,
oh, that's, like, a blonde song show. Yeah. And she's got like, she's got, like, a voice that's
like a little, like, California girl, like, like, and she's really, she's really got, she knows
how to do. Yeah. Not only. They get stuff done. Yeah. You know. I love that. But you're not like
that. Like, you don't have that kind of like, like, like you really put it on for Morgan.
I did. Yeah. I did. I mean, I, I feel like, you know, I,
I was talking to a friend, and she was like, she's like, I always have, like, she's like, I'm always, like, having to play. She's playing an astronaut right now, like, with Emmy Rossum and this play Walden, which everybody should go see. But she was like, I'm always having to play, like, these, like, really smart people. And it's like, oh, my God, this is, like heavy. And, like, I'm just, like, constantly, like, researching. And I was like, yeah, it's, like, constantly, like, researching. And I was like, yeah, it's like, you know, sitting there, like, always getting to play the person who doesn't have to do it. Because you kind of have that. Because in succession, I mean, there's just, yeah, I'm like, I'm like, Will is smart, like, you know, sitting there, like, like,
Like, she's not academic.
Like, she's not sitting, like, it's not like, I had to do, like, a ton of dramaturgy and, like, really get into the nitty-gritty event.
Yeah.
So, what is you playing for in France's talk?
Because I saw you were in that and I watched that movie years ago and I was trying to remember.
I play Adam Driver's character brings home a girl.
And, like, the next day they have, like, a breakfast where I'm, like, sitting with Greta Gerwig.
And I'm like, like, how old are you?
Oh, like, that's so weird because you look, like, way older than that.
Like, I just like this kind of like, bread.
So you do have that.
yeah there's like something about like the someone who's like unfiltered and kind of like half like
aware like I played it yeah that's so cool that's so cool by the way she went to Juilliard everyone
which is like the actors like the pinnacle of like acting school it's one of them it's one of the
yeah it's like Yel and my you and how did you get in what did you what do you have to do to get in
the Juilliard you have to do okay so I had to prepare four monologues two I did like in
There's a first round.
I did two monologues in the first round.
And they do a callback where they have you do an additional two monologues.
And then there's a third callback.
And they're all like plays, like Shakespeare stuff?
Yeah.
So I did like cool movie stuff.
It's like play stuff.
No, no.
You know what?
I bet you could do.
I bet you could do.
What did you do?
You have to do one classical, one contemporary.
So for your contemporary, you could do whatever you want.
But I did one like a play by Scott Oregon called China, I believe.
And it was like a woman telling another woman like that she's breaking the dress code at work where she's like your boobs are all jiggly.
Like it was like kind of like a devilware's product kind of like woman like critiquing another woman's like work like an HR kind of person.
And then I did Romeo and Juliet.
Yeah, which was fun.
Oh.
Did you think you were going to get in?
No.
God, no.
Because like 10 people get in a year or something fucking crazy.
It's like 16, 16, yeah.
And I know this, you guys, because people that follow me closely know that.
I lied, then I went there.
No, you did not.
In Israel, though.
So they don't know.
I need to hear about that.
I just did.
You just told everybody in Israel.
No, just the agency that I wanted to get into.
That's so awesome.
I was like, Julia, do you know it?
That's so sick.
It was crazy.
You can't check this.
You can't check this.
Do you have international calling?
Don't think so.
That's so funny.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So then you have to go.
Because I checked.
So I knew it.
I remember being like, that's crazy.
They'll believe it.
Anyway.
They're like,
They'll buy it. I give the vibes. So that's... I give the vibes. Yeah.
So then I did two more monologues. And then there's a third callback where I had to sing a song, which I sang...
Do you have... Are you a singer too? No, I'm not. It was like a nightmare. And I had to sing a song and I picked fever.
You know, there's like... Like fever.
Like fever. Yeah. Like 18 year old, 17 year old me. And I remember like coming up to like the desk with like the judges and then being like, can you please step back?
You're getting a little too close.
No, stop.
was like trying to like do like a whole like seduction thing and they were like doing were you thinking
wait what's that other song from a god no from where she comes to the judges what are you talking about
with the leotard not fever fame oh oh fame were you trying to do a fame moment i wasn't trying to do a fame moment
i've never seen fame so this was just it was just pure instinct no and they're like please back away
no i can't so you don't have to have a good voice you just have to like deliver it i think it was
just like, are you willing to do this? I mean, ideally, I think they probably would have liked.
My class, like, truly, like, are incredible. Daniel Brooks, who's, like, who just did the color
purple, Jacina Calcango, who's, like, a crazy Broadway star, Gail Rankin, who just a cabaret,
like incredible singers in my class. So I think they would have hoped that I could sing, but I just don't.
And it's a four-year conservatory in there? Yeah. Yeah. So you lived in New York. Did you love it?
I really loved, I loved living in New York when I lived in Brooklyn. I'm not like really a Manhattan
I did Manhattan all through school, but it was all Upper West Side or, like, in the heights.
Uh-huh.
And then once I graduated, I, like, kind of went back and forth between L.A., but all the staying that I did was in Brooklyn.
Like, what, like, Williamsburg vibes?
I lived in Williamsburg for a little while with my friend.
We, like, were roommates in, like, a bed together.
We did that for, like, probably six months.
Then I did Fort Green.
That was, like, the main place that I lived was, like, right off the parking for
Fort Green, which was like a dream.
And then Greenpoint, I did.
And I read that you, like, went to the JCC when you were younger, even though you're not Jewish.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My parents were like, well, first of all, they had an amazing, an amazing theater program for, like, you know, six-year-olds.
He showed interest, obviously, at that age.
Yeah, I was obsessed with it.
And so, like, I went to, well, I went to preschool at JCC just because it was, like, the best.
And my parents were also, like, they are non-denominational.
So they were, like, playing us, like, Joseph Campbell tapes when we were younger.
like myth and mysticism type thing and like a little bit I would like go to young life like church
group sometimes and then we were all over the place I think they were kind of like whatever let her learn
everything yeah and then like yeah as I got out of preschool into like middle school elementary school
I would go to like the summer camps at the JCC which were like all theater based summer camps so you
always knew we were going to do this yeah I mean I always wanted to do it I think that if I'm not one of
those people who's like, there's nothing else I could possibly do. And if this didn't work out,
I would like, I'm sure, like, if this didn't work out for a few years, it'd be like, we need
to get another job. Like, I couldn't, I couldn't sit through the discomfort. But it did work out.
And you're so good. No, seriously. It could all take a real turn. No.
There's maybe a moment where you like look back on her, like, remember when she said it? Oh, it worked out.
I'm like, ooh-hoo. Look where it's gone from here. It's just the beginning. Thank you. I hope so.
If you guys didn't watch nobody wants this, go binge it now. If you watch it, binge it for the second.
time and just seen you're literally such a gem oh thank you i'm so happy to be doing this this is
awesome yeah such a you're such a sensation shut up you are thank you come on are you kidding yeah and by the way
she came on because i literally slid into her dms you did i was like that's what happened that was sick
i was like come on the show you were like okay i was like okay yeah you inspired me with the may
whitman thing i was like okay this is how people do things so i'm gonna do it cool it's how we do it now
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