Not Skinny But Not Fat - Kelly Ripa: Boob Jobs, Morning Sex, and LIVE Forever?

Episode Date: July 15, 2025

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The following podcast is a dear media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny Bonafat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Okay, welcome to. Our new segment, things we need to talk about more, which in my daily life include Lenny's cute legs. In my daily life, it includes your abs. Because like, seriously? So things we need to talk

about more. Yeah. It's summer. The city is empty. If you live in New York, it's wild. You don't know this until you live here, but you can get anywhere in five minutes. In five minutes. No people on the streets. Everybody is in the Hamptons but us. And everyone wants to do something on a Friday, on a half Day Friday. Everyone is also drinking margaritas. Everyone is drinking margaritas are back. Okay, so you know this about me. I'm typically a wine girl until it is summer.

And in summertime, I'm a margarita girl because there's something just like so crisp, so clean, so refreshing. Yum. Especially like sometimes it's spicy. Yum. Yes, she is. Yum. So we are making margaritas today.

I'm going to show you my recipe. You guys remember, if you follow me back then, I used to call it my skinny marg. I make it with astral tequila, so good, so smooth, so fresh, so crisp, I'm obsessed. And we brought all the ingredients that you need to make my house margarita. This is the home network. So Virginia's going to do it. And I'm going to narrate it, okay? Yeah.

Ice, you guys. Yum. Then we are going to take the estrall tequila. We're going to pour it. Did you guys know, by the way? This is called a jigger. Marg Summers are back. Okay, bartender.

So we did the tequila. Lime juice. Oh, pre-squeeze queen. But by the way, this is squeezed lime. So don't be buying the lime in a bottle. No, I'm just kidding. You can buy the lime in the bottle. No, but actually, don't buy the one in the bottle.

Okay, it's not good. No, it's not good. Oh, this is my special ingredient. I love a little bit of maple syrup because I'm such a sweet girl. Do you want to shake it? Okay, I'll shake it. Do you want to shake it? Guys, she is literally a bartender.

Put your whole audience to it. Guys, this is for Pilates workout. What if we had alipanas? Wait, this looks so good, Regina. Poor eyes. Okay. That looks so profesh. I cun off.

Wait, but we wanted to talk about things we need to talk about more. Which I've been thinking because there was a photo of Monica Barbaro and Andrew Garfield yesterday at Wimbledon. So chic matching white and white. I'm like, they are such a Nick couple. And then it made me think, who else is a Nick couple right now that we need to be talking about more? So Monica Barbero and Andrew Garfield, numeral uno. Then we have Paul Muscal and Moscow. Mascal?

Whatever it is. I love a mispronunciation. Cheers, you guys. Let's see. Is that not amazing? Okay, bartender. No, is that not amazing? Like, seriously.

And, like, I feel like this is a perfect drink because it's not going to make you, like, your wine, like at some points you're like, okay, this is enough. This is so light. So light. This is so fresh. Isn't that tequila so good? No. It's amazing.

Estral is so good. No. And things more people need to talk about, margues are back. Marks are back. You guys know, it's seriously Mark Summer. Also, don't ask me where I got these glasses, even though they're gorgeous. Wait, this is such a good mark. Like, you made my recipe better than me.

Because I'm Mexican. It's like in my DNA. What do you mean? Another it couple that I love, like I was saying, is Gracie Abrams and Paul But did you see the pictures a couple months ago of her, like, crying outside of a restaurant and, like, pushing him? Lover's squirrel, Regina. Okay. Lover's squirrel.

But now that he's, like, singing and then there was videos on TikTok of him, like, messing up the words and, like, biving. And people are mad at him? No, but people are like. Oh, what do people want him to do? Yeah. It's not for him. He's not her target audience. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Couple number three is, uh, long and steady Taylor and Travis. Yeah. You're over them. I'm over it. You can't even pretend. No, because, like, also did you see those clips that went viral of him being like, like, we just want to have fun. Like, can people leave us alone?

Like, not everything's a headline, like, us going to... No, we can't leave you alone. Bye. No, like, leave them alone. Really? Let them live? Let them live. Fine.

Then we have Kylie and Timmy. Like, any sighting of them, I will go through so many emotions at once. It will be like, I'm in love. I'm jealous. I'm just feeling all the feelings. So they're really, like, up there for me. What I love about this tequila, by the way,

is it's perfect for making marks at home with friends. You could also order it. a bar at a restaurant. But like if you're having a party, you're having friends over, this is this is the tequila you want at home. Because it's like neutral. And it's affordable. And like the flavoring is neutral. So it doesn't make it like doesn't over there. Yeah. On the rest of the drink. Yeah. You're like, okay, Lyme's like, like you taste at all. Can we talk about how fresh it was? No. Amazing work. We just needed a jalapinos. For a spicy. And like a taquin room. Do you like a tequine room? Yeah, let me just like pop out some tahin. You guys, how smart summer is here.

Time to stock up. Go to www. www. Estraltequila.com to find a straw near you. And don't forget the limes, which we didn't forget today. Freshly sweet. Please enjoy you responsibly. Well, you guys, we're going to go back to drinking on margaritas.

I'm so excited. Hey, guys, happy Tuesday. I don't know about you, but I really feel like the pod has been on Fuegs like this summer. I just feel like. it's been guests after guest that I'm so excited about that we had so much fun with, that it was so interesting and fascinating and fun and exciting. So it just makes me feel good, you know, makes me feel really, really good. And I love hearing your guys' feedback and what you love.

And it just makes me feel so nice when, first of all, because, for example, with Lena Dunham, I was like, oh, my God, everyone's going to think I'm talking about Haley Bieber when I was like, the guest of my life and blah, blah, blah. And Lena is amazing in her own right. And not that she's niche by any means, but she's so important to me. And I was like, by the way, I'm describing it really sounds like Madonna, Haley Bieber, Madonna and Haley Bieber, one of the same, one and the same. And then when I was like, it's Lena, I just feel like you guys are me and you get me

and you are excited about the same people that I'm excited about. And that's what I always say, like, when I have meetings about the podcast or whatever, some inside baseball, I'm like, and the people that I talk to, like, get it. I'm like, my listeners are me. Like, I'm my listener, you know? And it makes things so seamless and just so, like, you can't imagine if, like, your audience isn't you. You know, it's like, let's hear a dude and you're like, my audience is 55-year-old women across America. So anyway, hashtag blessed, hashtag lucky.

lucky you're not supposed to say that listen these reels ruined my life hashtag blessed hashtag i earned it i find myself in such interesting situations like starting to do something that i'm used to doing that's in my human nature and then a reel some like educational reel pops in my head remember he's four years old and his brain is only 25% developed boom you remember i'm not saying it's all bad. You know, it just stops you in your track sometimes. It really does. Remembering like what you're supposed to do according to Instagram Reels. Anyway, into today's episode, you guys, I love this woman so much. She's kind. She is funny. She's been on TV for she'll say it herself a thousand years. She's always been a real one, a forthright one, funny, cute, everything. An

inspiration to me, honestly, is a woman that, you know, is in the middle, Kelly Rippa. Kelly Rippa. And she's back, by the way, because we did an episode a few years ago, but it was on Zoom. It was probably like COVID times or something. I can't remember. And we connected then. And she was so sweet then. And I remind her in this episode, like she made sure after that I got her number and

she was texting me like advice with the kids. And it was Halloween. And she told me to come trick or treat at her beautiful brownstone in New York. And she's just so. complimentary and kind and such a lovely lady. And one of the realest ones around, we talk about her podcast. It's called Let's Talk Off Camera.

And I was like, oh, cute. Like, you know, when you're not live, but like, no, she meant it. Like, let's talk off camera as in she doesn't film her podcast, which honestly gel, because I do miss podcast being just audio. But, you know, that's a great vibe. She has her live show, live with her husband, sexy little mark and she has let's talk off camera her podcast she also just you know opens up

about her her marriage doing the show with her husband now her kids being all grown up whether she ever considered doing a boob job and more so enjoy my loves t tty how is it going from one to two what are you doing you're interviewing i want to know i'm going to interview you No, you're not. I will wind up. No, you're not. I can't. Kelly Rippa is here.

You guys. Hi. I'm so excited you're here in person. I can't believe I'm seeing you in person. Is it weird? Is it weird? No, here's one of the things I will say about you. You are just as beautiful in person as you are on TV or phone.

As you are on phone. As you are on phone. Yeah. You too. Well, I, well, can I tell people? So you were on when your book came out. which I loved your book. Thank you. I think if people didn't read it, they should. You read it. Which is shocking. I know. A lot of people don't do that. I don't do that. I don't read.

I do. I read everything. Yeah. So when people come on the show, I want them to know that I've like taken the time because I. Oh, I just won't have people that with the books anymore. You know what I mean? Like you have to. I'm like, oh, it's a book. What do you think about that? No, but you'd be amazed at how many people don't read the book. Yeah. So I read yours and loved it. And because I'm not a reader. It means more. Thank you. And I will say two things. Well, this is, this is a true story, you guys. You are the reason I got Botox for the first time. Really? Because you had a whole chapter dedicated to it, if I remember correctly. Yes, I have an entire chapter dedicated. An entire chapter where she's like basically like yelling at you like, oh, you don't want to look more refreshed.

Right. Like you don't want to look like you got more sleep. And I was like, oh my God. Well, here's the thing. You now know this because you are a mom. of two young sons. Yeah. And as joyful and as amazing as an as incredible as the experience is, you are in a profession that is a visual medium, like it or not. And as am I. And if I didn't have my job in front of a camera, would I do any of that stuff?

Probably not. But it really makes you aware of the fact that a, good portion of your audience expects you to remain exactly the way you were when they found you. And for me, that goes back 35 years, 40 years. So while I know that I cannot look the way I did that amount of time ago, I do know there are ways, there are cheats that I can utilize that make my ready time faster. Yeah. And for me, it's like all about especially when my kids were young, being able to get ready fast was the key to everything. Right.

And so you've just learned that lesson. Yeah, I've learned that. And it was like the way you put it in that chapter that was like, you're not getting some, because I remember I thought of it before I've ever tried it. It's like a vanity thing. Right. I'm not vain. Right.

Like, or everyone does this. And you know how people that don't know what the different types of stuff you can do? Like people will see Chloe Kardashian and. be like, she got a face transplant. Right. Correct. They like exaggerate or like, what surgeries? And you're like, no, that person just did filler, you know? Every time Christopher Buckle does my makeup like he did today. People think what? People say I got a nose job. And so according to people, I've had like hundreds of nose jobs. Hundreds and hundreds of nose jobs. They don't see like when I take the makeup off, my nose goes right back to normal. Well, I saw you did some like something with your lips that you're doing

special. Yeah. Like, you're doing something different. He did my makeup today, so I can't take credit for any of this. But, so I learned this from watching Instagram videos. And I always say, like, I'm not on Instagram very often. I don't really invest that much time. But every time I have my teeth cleaned, there's really nothing to do there except sit and

sit and scroll. Yeah. And so I'm scrolling through Instagram and I'm watching these videos where these women literally paint their upper lips brown. I didn't do that because I, you know, I know my skill set. But I was like, I bet there's a way to do that that makes sense for me. And so I learned how to just trace the upper lip with like a brown eyeliner crayon. So I trace the upper lip all the way on the outside of the line. Then I put lip liner on top of that and then lipstick. And it's like. So now is that your go-to? It's my go-to.

I do it every time. But you just said when you got here to the pod that you did your makeup today, which... No, I didn't. Christopher did. I mean, that you had it done. I had it done for you. I love you. I wanted you to think I look pretty.

But you would look pretty all the time. You know. But you do your own for the show. I do my own makeup for the show, which is so funny. So funny. It's so funny. And yours is on TV. My TV audience.

But that feels like, you know, it's like it's you being here. Right. Doesn't this feel like you're in your own home? Right. Versus, right. So when I go to my TV job, I feel like I'm in my own home. And so they don't mind if I look not. They don't mind if I don't look.

But so how long does it take you, the makeup for the show? To do it myself? Yeah. Like a half an hour. Okay. Do you do eyelashes? I do eyelashes. I glue those on.

That's the most challenging part, gluing on my own eyelashes. Individuals? Or is it like a one thing? No, I do like a strip. Okay. I used to do individuals because that was like easier for me. but then Christopher taught me how to do a strip

and now I'm pretty good at it. You should do a get ready with me for live. I know. I just feel like people have suffered. No one in your team has to try to get you to do it. They try to get me to do it all the time. And I'm like, people have suffered enough in this country. They don't need me doing a get ready.

It's like the cryptkeeper. It's like watching the cryptkeeper crawl out of her tomb. Well, I want to say more about when we did the pod because people should know this too. You were so nice. And I remember how, but after you made sure that I got your number. Yeah. So we could communicate in real life.

That's so sweet. And it was almost Halloween. Yeah. And we were like, you have to go. You're like, I'm not home, but like you have to go trick-a-treat. Yeah, because we give out full-sized candy bars. Yeah. And I think that matters to kids.

It does matter. And you do, I mean, in New York, I love post it around Halloween when all the brownstones are decorated so beautifully and you know where to go. And yours, I mean, you go out. This year we didn't do it, and it was very sad to me. No, because there's construction on that house next door to our house, and there's like a scaffolding over half of our house. So it's like their scaffolding is in front of half of our house. And I just didn't know, like, where to put anything and like...

How are you going to have the zombies hang from the window? How am I going to have all that stuff hanging when there's a scaffolding there? So I didn't do it this year. And but I wanted, like, I actually put out on a window. my show, I was like, I'm still giving out candy. But does that mean that people know where you live? I mean, a lot of people know where I live. Is that weird?

No. Really? No. I mean, it's New York City. I know, it is. It's New York. Do you have the security? No, but I mean, like, what are they going to do?

What are they going to do? It's New York. It's only New York. It's New York. I think New York is, you know, New York is such a work, though, that people know where you live. That's what I want to know. There's no, like...

I don't think they necessarily know, but they figure it out when I answer the door. What do you mean? You know what I mean? Just on Halloween. Yeah. Okay. Like they, like word gets around.

Oh, word gets around. The trick-or-treaters know where I live. And then it happened. Yeah, and they have this app now where they rate the houses for the candy. So we have like a top. We are like a five-star rating or tens. I don't know. Like, it's like how many candy, like those candy corns.

Yeah. It's like we have the perfect rating. Like, we've got a perfect rating. That's so funny. Yeah. So they know us, like, I'm not saying random strangers in New York know where we live. The trick-or-treating community know where we live. Would you ever leave New York?

You know, Mark and I talk about it all the time. I don't really see us ever leaving New York because, you know, our son lives in Brooklyn. Our other son just graduated college and he's not sure if he's going to live in New York or L.A. He's not really sure yet. He's still like... Because he's... Watkins isn't to like acting. He's...

Yeah. He just... He actually just booked his first job. And which I'm thrilled shoots in New York. So that's like very exciting for us. It's nice when your kids graduate college and start to work. Really? Like it's a sigh of relief.

Oh, that you're like, you're going to be okay. Like, oh, it's going to be okay. Yeah. Because our kids all three went into the creative arts and I was like... Oh, all three did. I was like not a... single plastic surgeon. Like, we really discourage, we discouraged them

so much from going into our line of work. You did the opposite. Because we know how hard it is. And we know, like, it's an unforgiving business. And yes, like, we have connections, but we, like, we're not, like, a show business family. Like, we're not

that connected. We still audition for everything. Like, nobody's just calling us and offering us roles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're not getting, like, you know, Martin Scorsese's he isn't calling. Correct. That's not where we are in life. Are you scared?

People are going to think that that is the case for them? Oh, I think people definitely think that's the case. And I don't, I think my kids feel like very fortunate in general. Like, they don't have student loans. So they're like, we are good. Like, we don't care. If people want to say that, we get it and we don't mind. Well, I think, you know, Alison Williams was just here.

Yeah. And she, I didn't even ask her about this, but she volunteered. like her thoughts on the nepo baby conversation because her dad is a journal right right so she put it as like not her dad could call and get her the gig right but more the conversation around she felt like she had the safety net like you're saying about your kids like she could go for it yeah and there was no floor right you know so that so that there's like a comfort in knowing like my kids got to graduate knowing that they weren't like having to climb out of a mountain of debt.

They didn't have, like, and they are so appreciative and so grateful. And so, and I also think we kept their worlds really normal when they were young. They always, from the earliest ages they could, had part-time jobs, always. And they were one of their, you know, in their friends circle, they were like the only ones to have jobs. You know, I was going to ask you that question. and, you know, raising their kids in the city, living in a gorgeous home, living the life that you live, how you keep them grounded. They were fully aware, and I think it was partly I had a lot to do with that.

I was like, this is our money, not your money. We worked for this, and you have done nothing for this. And one day you will work and you will earn a living. If you're lucky, if you work hard, you will earn a great living. And we've given you all the tools and a stable life growing up. So you didn't have to worry about where things were coming from. That was just like you got super fortunate. And now it's your turn, you know, and to bust your ass and work as hard as you can

and get things cracking for yourselves. And so we thought like because we always had jobs as teenagers and before we were teenagers. From our early, you know, as early as we could start working, you know, babysitting at people used to let, people used to let eight-year-olds babysit children. It is not okay. Yeah. I look back. Well, now I'm so overprotective that I can't. Can you imagine an eight-year-old walking in? I can't imagine a 14-year-old. Right. Like with a baby. Right. I can imagine a 14-year-old like, oh, go play in the backyard while I'm at home watching. No, no. But like, I used to at 14, go babysit a full

child three children put a baby to sleep I'm like how'd that baby go to sleep with me I didn't know what I was doing

yeah but but got my $20 an hour that's saved out Wow I mean it was in Westchester I went out to Westchester you were smart I went to the rich people

I was a dollar an hour so word spread but then word also spread that if you didn't pay me I wasn't necessarily in a position to argue with you so like I would just get screwed over all the time

I would work for hours and hours and walk away with no money. And they'd be like, I'll get you next time. I'll get you next time. Wait, what kind of part-time jobs did they work in the city? So Michael worked at a toy shop. Joaquin worked in a gym. Lola worked in a gym and in a hair salon, which she really did. She did not enjoy the hair salon work.

She said shampooing people's heads is disgusting. Wait, she did that. What in like high school? Yeah, in high school. Wow. They always had part-time jobs. I thought it was like essential because we worked and I was like, you have to work.

It really does teach you. Like, if I take something my mom did this too, it's like making your own money and realizing like how much it's worth when you buy something and wait, I just made, you know, $14 an hour. This costs, you know, $50. It really, it manages finances in their brains in a real way. From an early. Yeah. So you feel like good about where they're at.

I feel really good about where they're like. Like Michael, I think our eldest who's 28 now is probably the hardest work. person I've ever met. What does he want to do? Well, he's a producer. He works in television production and he, you would actually love his job. Yeah. He works in a lot of like different reality TV projects. Like he just sort of, he's a freelance. So his life is, I wouldn't say it's, it's unpredictable, but he, but he's such a hard worker that he always has his next job lined up before the other. Because like you did so good. They take him, what's his dream like show to work on live?

No, no, no. He would, that's not his bag at all. He really, he's a writer. So I think this is all a means to an end to get his novel, his novels published. Oh, he wants to do like books. Yeah. Yeah. He's like a writer in like fantasy novel stuff. We'll be right back after the break. Have you guys noticed that my voice has become raspier? Like should I be concerned? If I can tell you about one thing I'm not concerned about, but I'm, but I'm, but I'm, I'm not concerned about knowing where to shop that is getting a bang for my buck and getting amazing quality and a variety of different kinds of products that feel luxurious, that are timeless, that look elevated. You guys know I'm in my cool, chic mom era. I feel like I'm finally finding myself style-wise after all these years. Who knows, maybe it'll change again. I'll go back to, like, dyeing the tips of my hair block.

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And we're back. Lola's a singer-songwriter, and she lives in London. Oh, she does. Yeah, she's lived in London for two years. Why? Well, it's interesting. So Lola's freshman year was the beginning of the pandemic. Her, she never went back for her second semester.

They closed the schools. Where did she go to school? She went to the Clive Davis School of Music, which is, like, very prestigious. I didn't think she should go to school in New York. I feel like you got to your... Like, experience the dorms and the life. And none of that really happened for her. She had like one semester that was...

She got even worse then. Yes. Yeah. So then part of the Clive Davis program was that your second semester, you moved to Berlin, Germany, and you create music there. And that was canceled because of COVID. So her senior year, they let the same...

senior class choose a different study abroad. Like, they never let seniors do a study abroad. And she had a handful of countries she could select from. And she chose London. And it was a really easy choice for her because her boyfriend is from London. And so, and he, once he graduated college, he moved back to London. And so it was very easy for her. It was an easy choice.

She fell in love with the study abroad program, moved home to graduate and went right back. And the boyfriend is still the boyfriend? Boyfriend is still the boyfriend. How are you as like the mother-in-law vibe? Oh, we're great. Here's the thing. She chose really wisely. Yeah.

And I feel the same way about Michael's girlfriend. Like I love the people they've chosen. Okay. They've got excellent taste. And I just said it there. I said his name. She's always like trying to protect his identity. But family and like we're all very close.

Like the parents travel together. Like as in you guys and them? Yes. Like the parents are friends outside of our children. Do they like that? Yeah, I think they do. I think initially they hated it and now they love it. I would be scared to date one of your sons.

You would? Yeah. Like if I didn't know you. My sons would love you. Why would you be scared to? Like, I would be like Kelly Rippa, like, is she going to like me? No, I don't even, like, they don't even, you know, like, young people now don't necessarily, they figure it out eventually, like, but I don't think they necessarily know initially. Really?

Yeah, yeah. Yeah, because, you know. Like, you think they're first meeting with you, they're not like. Well, B.S is like from a whole other country. So unless you're American, you don't, you wouldn't know. And Michael's girlfriend is a school teacher and, you know, is like. She's a learned person. She's not somebody that watches television.

She's not like into pop culture or entertainment. She doesn't really have a frame. Anytime I ask, like she'll say, you know, if we were to have a conversation about who was on the show, if I mentioned who was on the show, she's no idea who I'm talking about. I have so many people like that in my life. Yeah.

I don't know how that happens to me. Yeah. Like how do you know nothing. We're better off for it though. Like that we're around. Because they know real things. I know. We know like a lot of pop culture things and they know things.

So how do you keep up with pop culture? I mean, I'm, like, obsessed with it. I have to be. So are you into, like, do you feel like you're like, oh, I need to prep. So let me, like, read what happened? What I'm into, I'm really into. And what I'm not into, I am steadfastly against. Okay, what are you steadfastly against?

Like, I don't like The Bachelor. And that makes me so unpopular with people. But I am not into women fighting each other over dating a guy. I got you. I don't like it. Are you into women fighting each other, like housewife style in general? So here's what I'm. I think when it comes to the housewives, and I always make this distinction, the housewives are at a place in their lives where usually society is sort of like turning their back on them. They're kind of middle aged. Maybe they're divorced. Maybe they're in like a forgotten place. And housewives gives them an opportunity to maybe launch a brand. Maybe they've got a plan already. They've lived their lives. And so,

this exposure is their choice and they know what they're signing up for. And I feel like the Bachelor takes people that are maybe younger and more impressionable and maybe haven't gotten the launch yet and sort of can take them down a path that maybe they don't want to go. I don't know. It's just I shouldn't judge it because I don't watch it. Do you have Bachelor people on your show? Every day, all the time. Constantly. Wait, am I remembering something and telling me, for, yeah.

Did you have some time, like, somebody on that there was, like, a little bit, maybe you asked them something and they got upset. Do you remember what I'm saying? No, I think the girl, and again, I don't remember. Was this bachelor? It was a bachelor girl, a bachelorette. I don't know. She was a girl.

Yeah. And I was like, but you are so beautiful. You could meet anyone anywhere. Oh, okay. And she was like, well, you met your husband at work. And I was like, and everyone's like, clap back. And I was like, no, that was an actual job. That's not a dating service.

Like, I met my husband at a job. Like, if you were to meet your husband at the psychology center where you work, then I would be like, go for it. Yeah. That's a great meeting. Uh-huh. But I- Did you feel like that was savage of you? Was savage of me?

No, I don't, I'm not trying to be savage. I'm like trying to. She was trying to also have. a moment where she was like, she was trying to have her moment. And I'm like, I was like, I've been down this road with you guys before. Like, I'm giving you good advice. Take it or not. Yeah. I'm giving you like. But it triggers you. The Bachelor triggers you. It doesn't trigger me. I just feel it doesn't trigger me at all. I feel like they get triggered because I'm not like, isn't it great you found true love? I'm like, no, I've seen this movie over and over

again. The thing is, I think it's lost its charm. Because I used to watch until a certain season, I think, We do have marriages and their kids. I think that now with social media, you just can't. I mean, everyone's coming on to get Instagram followers. Everything's lost its charm. Everything's lost its charm. Yeah, everything. And it's, again, this is why I stay off of social media, unless I absolutely must.

I think that people are playing versions of themselves for clicks and likes or whatever it is. And I am just like, it's better to just be yourself. then to play yourself. Yeah, there's so much of that. That makes sense. It makes sense. Tell me about Mark starting to work with you. So your 25 years,

do you have like 25 on live anniversary coming out? 25 on live. Isn't that crazy? 25 on live, sounds good, guys. Yeah, we should monetize that. Do something with that. We won't, though. I mean, if it's one thing I know about our show,

we won't. We'll like five years from now be like, oh, that would have been a fun. That would have been a fun thing to do. 25 on live. Yeah. Do it. Yeah, we won't.

Like the SNL 50th. We won't do it. We just won't do it. So when is that? That's like February or January? So, I mean, honestly, it's, yes, we'll call it February. We'll call it February. We'll call it.

We'll call it. We'll call it. 25 years. You're at the same job. Yeah, the same job. But honestly, it's been, it's been 36 years that I've been with the same company where I've worked in the same, like, I've worked in the same, like, I've, I've worked only for ABC and the Disney company.

And before it was Disney, it was Cap Cities. Like, I'm so old that it's like before Disney took ABC over. Because of all my children, I started out there. And then the live just sort of acquired me in the trade. In the trade. In the trade. And then I did the sitcom also for ABC. Like, I've only worked within the company, which is weird.

I mean, in today's age, it feels like people know, longer like stay at the same job. Even if, you know, whatever industry you're in, people like switch all the time. Like how, how do you explain staying there for so long? I think because my dad was a bus driver for New Jersey transit for 30 years. And I think that like stuck in me somehow. And I was like, you have to stay at your job. People are counting on you. You stay at your job. And you can work, you can work within the company in different aspects of the job, but it's still you stay, you stay there. And Bob Iger, who was on my podcast, had the same experience. Like, he got his job at ABC Cap Cities and stayed there until he, now granted, his track up the corporate ladder was a

way swifter rise than mine, but he still has stayed within the company all these years. So it's kind of a fascinating thing when you... And you love it probably. Yeah, it's like it's home. It's home to you. It's second home. So what was it like bringing Mark into into the mix? So it was It was really interesting because we started out our careers together at the soap. So we knew we could work together. And we had worked together on a lot of other projects. So working together is not a thing for us. But did people warn you? Like, don't work together. You know. No, because they knew we could do it. Like we've done it for so many years over across so many different disciplines and different projects on camera and off camera. And so I think. It was really convincing Mark because it took, initially, when they came to Mark, he flat out refused. Was it your idea or theirs? No, no, no, it was theirs. It was I would never come up with that idea. I also sort of thought it was a bad idea. It was like a husband and wife hosting a morning show is different than a husband and wife acting together or producing something together. It's just

different. And they were like, no, we think it really works because. He doesn't. He guessed stuff, too. He guessed it all the time. And I think that's where they came up with the idea. They kept saying, you're really good. The audience really responds to Mark because Mark has a gives zero F's attitude. And the audience loves that. Yeah.

There's no artifice with him. If he hates something, he hates it out loud, no matter how much we're supposed to love it. You know, and when he thinks something is dumb, he says it. No matter how much we're supposed to. pretend we like whatever this thing is. If we're tasting a recipe on the air and he thinks it's disgusting, he spits it out and says, this is gross. And that has found like this, we found a whole co-viewership where husbands and wives are watching it together, which is like a first. We have men sitting in our audience. A first. We have never had that before. And I think that people

really respond to him. And I have to say, shout out to Dana Walden and Deborah O'Connell, who were the two women at Disney, who were like, Mark's the guy. And they truly sat him down and were, and said to him, until he said, yes. You are the guy and here is why. And here's the reason why we know this. What were his hesitations? I think he thought, A, it would be the end of his acting career, which it hasn't been. He's, you know, he's been working steadily on camera and in other projects since he took the job. So that... But how does that work? He can just... You would host, you would bring a guest. They have carve out, carve out times for him to take other jobs. And then I bring in a guest host.

And it's like, just like... It works. No big deal. And, and I think he thought the audience wouldn't want to look at two married people bitching at each other, because we do bitch at each other all the time. I know, but so many good things have got... I mean, every day. Can you... Every day, I feel like something that you say on the show becomes a headline. It's true. Yeah. It's true. And it's not intentional.

We're like not looking to make headlines. We're just like hosting the show. But I think because it is relatable, it does gather a lot of headlines because we are two long time marrieds. We've been together for 31 years. Crazy. And we are not afraid to express ourselves publicly. And there is no artificial. Like, we don't couch, we're not worried about protecting each other's feelings.

We just sort of say what's on our mind. And I guess people find that very relatable. Can you say anything aside from cursing? Yeah, we can say whatever we want. You can say whatever you want. We can't say the big five or the big seven or whatever it is. What's the big five and seven? I don't know.

There's like five curse words you are not allowed to say. It's like CSF, GD, B. I'm trying to think of the other. I already said S. I'm not saying it now. Here you could say it. I know, but I'm trying to like remember. Well, it's either five or seven. Yeah, five or seven.

There's five or seven words. But that's the only thing. You could talk sex. You could talk. Yeah, we can say whatever. Okay. Yeah. So you don't have to worry about that.

No, we don't worry about that stuff. I mean, certain things we try not to say because I find it like repulsive for married people to talk about sex. Is Mark ever like, like, stop? Or does he not at all try to? No, he never tries to stop. If he tries to stop me, I'd be like, wait, why? Why are you kicking me?

Like, he knows me enough. He would blow up his spot. Yeah, he knows that I would be like, don't kick me. But after, like, at home being like, why did you share that? We haven't had that yet. And I feel like we've talked about everything. You did? So he doesn't mind.

No. Okay. No, but he's seen the show. Yeah. He knows. He will say, he will say, if you have him on the show, he will tell you this. It was way more fun. and easier when he was just the guest host.

He says it all the time. Oh, yeah, then, like, really. Yeah, than having to, like, commit to, commit to saying what he feels. Right. Like, every day. When he used to say what he felt and walk away, he was like, well, that's your problem. Yeah. I'm just the guest host.

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to literally listen to me, then you have to listen. Like you see, you already know the size. I see. I watch him. I watch him drift away. And I'm like, hey, hey. Don't do that. Oh my God. I know what you're talking about. You have a husband. I know. I know.

And you know what he does to me sometimes. It's kind of like, hope you like get to the point quicker. And I'm like, this is a really interesting story. Let me tell all the journey to get to the point. It's like, are you busy, sir? We're in a conversation.

How long have you been married? Well, together 10. Right. Together 10. Okay. Which is nothing compared to you. No, no. For other people, it sounds like a lot.

Well, I'm just saying. Wait, sorry. No. 2010, 15. Okay. So, my God, what year is it? Thank you. So multiply that times two.

Right. Okay. So picture him twice as bored and irritated with your story time. Like, if my mouth opens at home, I watch him drip. But imagine also, like, we're talking about people that don't know pop culture and celebrity. So he's so far removed. But if I want to tell him a story about a guest. I need to give the whole backstory about who that person is.

Correct. So I get it. You know, it's like, this person is from this show and they did this. And then they got to the, he's like, oh, that's only the beginning. We just got to, like, who they are. When you tell him about me, all you need to say is the lady with the full-sized candy bars at the townhouse. I think he knows. And then he'll be like, oh, that, the old lady.

So aside from that, everything great about working with husbands. Yeah, I love working with that. I mean, it is crazy. There are couples. Like, I'm like that with my husband, too. were like you could never we could be no no you could we can coexist for endless amounts of time right there are couples that can't they'll say like we can't we need to both of us be it's separate you know all day and then we can come together at night or else we'd fight we'd go crazy

and we really do have that kind of like and i think it's people maybe with like a strong friendship or something you have to be friends where it's like you could just hang out all day and it's not You have to be friends. Yeah. You have to like each other. But you guys start as friends? Yeah. We were friends.

We were working together. And we were really close. Like, we were friends. And I was like, this guy, like, if he wasn't my friend and if we didn't work together, because I had a very strong, like, I didn't believe that if you work, I was like, you can never date anyone you work with. Yeah. It will fall apart. The relationship will fall apart and the job will fall apart. Right.

And I was like, it's a shame we work together. And it's a shame I like him so much because we are so like, like we would be a great team. And then over the course of time, I was like, are we vibing right now before that was a word? Is this a thing? Yeah. Like are we doing whatever vibing was before we said that? Like we like discovered we were into each other in real life. But we didn't want people that we, we didn't want people that we worked with to knew we were dating.

Right. Because that would ruin, I don't know, it just seemed like a... Well, today people love that. Today they, like, force people to pretend date. Today they force people, but back then it was like a no-no. It was a no-no. You did not monkey around with people you were working with. So how long do you think you're going to do live for?

I don't know. It's a question we get asked a lot. Yeah. It feels so easy. It doesn't feel like a job. Really? Yeah. So I don't know.

But I do believe that, I do believe that at a certain point we have to turn over the reins to like a whole new gen. I don't believe, like, I am not one of these people that believe that the show should end when I leave. And Nora's Mark, we believe, like, that is a franchise show. We, we have such reverence for it. It has given us so much. It has, like, given us, like, literally provided our family with everything.

Yeah. And so many incredible opportunities, meeting so many extraordinary people, our children are fully aware, they'll meet people on the street that will come up to them and say, I watch you grow up. It is such a pleasure to see you as an adult. And that means something to them. Well, I love that you, because you're not just, I mean, on one hand, I understand what you're saying that you wanted to live on, but it is so personal to you. Yeah. And you, I mean, now you're doing it with Mark, but also you show, you. you know, stuff about your family and the graduation, like, there's a peek into your personal life.

You know, when my kids were little, they had the opportunity to come on and do like little segments, Halloween segments, and people got a glimpse into their lives. And then they grew up and they move on and they move out and they move out of the country in some cases. And people don't get to regularly check in with them. And so I feel like, you know, once in a while, it's important. to sort of let people in on, because I feel like they had a group experience. My kids had a group childhood. It was like they had lots of aunties, lots of uncles, lots of grandparents.

It wasn't just their, it wasn't just our parents and our siblings. They had like America and Canada raising them in some way. And so, and they really like looked out for them and rooted for them. And they are fully aware of that. Having said that, I do believe that the show is too special for it to just die with us. Does that make sense? But I think, I mean, if you're happy to keep doing it. Yeah, for right now, we are so happy.

And I think the audience will let us know. I do believe, like, the audience, like, your viewership will let you know when it's time. I got you. You know, and right now, they're sticking with us. And we've grown an audience in a time where TV isn't growing an audience. And so I feel like right now... Is Mark trying to take credit for that? I give him total credit.

I do. I give him total credit for it. Oh, that's nice. Because it can't be done right now, and yet it happened when he joined. Wow. And so I do give him total credit. Believe me, I would love to give myself credit, but I've been there at a thousand years. The numbers speak for themselves.

I've been there since they were etching the show on the wall. And people would be like, look, this is TV on the cave wall. The way you exaggerate, I can't. So, okay, like I said, so many headlines. Every week you say something. Yeah, I say words. You say words, but you say something that is like... Tittalating, provocative.

I guess so. But I don't even know it's provocative. But everything, like the weighted vest thing. Yeah, what about it? I mean, I think it was like you sang on live TV. Yeah. Like, I have no boobs. It's like a big deal.

I mean, we are in 2025, but it was a big deal for people to, to, to, to, you know, hear you say that. By the way. But it's weird every time I say I have no boobs, it is a big deal. And I'm like, guys, I've said this 800 times. We know that I'm flat chested. Yeah. It's not a mystery at this point. At this point, it's like a, it's almost a point of pride, but it is also weird. Can I ask you something? Yeah. Did you have bigger boobs before kids? Mildly. Like I would just say, I wouldn't say they were necessarily bigger. I would say I nursed what was in there away. So now I just have like, like, like, nipples that hang lower. So I always say I'm at 32.

Because sometimes I meet people that are like, I had double Gs before kids. Now I'm an A and I'm like, wait, that's crazy. No, no, no. No, I was like I went from an A to an A long. Yeah. But I love that you're representing. Yeah, I just feel like there's somebody out there that can relate to this. Did it ever make you feel insecure like you wanted bigger boobs at any point in your life?

I love how we have to touch them. No, we have to touch them. I have gone to more, like I've gone to more breast augmentation consults than I have. would like to admit like I every time I hear about the new boob guy I go and I have to see what like I'm like what I'm like what what will you do and they always like say all the right things and do all the right things and you know because our cell phones listen to us it pops up for you it pops up like and I scroll through like like so many horror stories of boob jobs oh really like horror stories like just turn out not good like turn out not good people that have had complicated

blah, blah, blah, and it, like, talks me right out of it. Really? And I just feel like at this point, at this point. Imagine you show up with, like, boobs. No, but at this point, here's the reality. Because all of my friends or a majority of my friends have had breast augmentation. And they've had multiple because, like, every 10 years or so, you have to, like, swap them out. So let's say I get them at 55, right?

That means at 65, I have to swap them. out. At 75, I'm on my second pair. Let's say I live to 85. I'm going under the knife again. Like, I'm just going to. I'm good. I'm good. Nobody's talking to these except for Mark. And even he seems like he's on a don't ask, don't tell policy with that. He's like, we're good. I'm fine. What do you think about this whole thing in Hollywood that's like, this annoys me and I was talking to somebody about it? Read the plastic surgery stuff. Yeah. If somebody has beautiful work done, then we're like, oh my God, you know, so-and-so looks so good. Yeah.

You know, and we kind of like elevate them and talk about how gorgeous they are. And we say maybe they had worked done because look at them. They're glowing. And then if somebody has work that's like something didn't write off, then we're like, why did she do that? Like that, you know, and it's like not their fault, obviously. They didn't pick to have bad work done. I read this meme that really resonated with me and I'm going to try to remember it exactly

but it's like she's, she's starting to get old. She doesn't look the way she used to, starts with, she doesn't look the way she used to. And then it's like, why did she do that to her face? She ruined her looks. She's trying to look like her younger self. She used to be so cute. And I'm totally screwing up the saying,

but it's like a circle of things that women, women, here. And it's this, she used to be so cute, why doesn't she do, why doesn't she, you know, why doesn't she invest in her, you know, it's like, she used to be so cute. Why doesn't she do more? It's a shame she did that to her face. She ruined her look. Why did she? It's like, it's a whole circle. I see what you're saying now. And what's your relationship with aging in general? I feel like the alternative of aging is very bad. Right. So I am not afraid to age. And like I said, I'm not. I'm not necessarily, like, I'm not a vain person. I know what I look like, and I'm very comfortable in my own skin. Having said that, like, I whiten my teeth. Why? Because I'm on camera. I hate those zingers.

I can't handle them. I know. Do you get them? The wit? Like the day after, do you get those, like, zaps? So I put, I asked them to put that stuff on. They can give you a tray that is the soothing, soothing gel. Okay.

It takes the zingers away. For the, like, for the next, like, 24 hours. Oh, okay. Where you breathe and you feel like a zap. I couldn't deal. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Like, I couldn't deal.

So you just need to get the tray. Yeah, the tray will help. But I feel like aging is a necessarily, a necessary part of living. Right. But I want to live my best life and I want to look a way that makes me feel good. I don't really give a shit what other people think. I stopped caring about that a long time. ago. And so, you know, you look amazing. Oh, thanks. My mom, for instance, like, her relationship

to aging, I just could tell, like, she doesn't take it well. And I hope that I will be a little bit better with that. What's weird is my mom is an 84-year-old woman who has never had Botox, has never had any plastic surgery, and looks probably, I would say younger than me. She does have extraordinary bone structure. And she's never worn makeup. And I think that is the key. Really? Not wearing makeup. She doesn't go in the sun and she doesn't wear makeup. The sun, yeah. Yeah. I like the sun. You do like the sun. I do protect. I protect myself. I protect my, this is like a spray tan. Oh, okay. I protect myself. But I like the feeling of going in the sun. I mean, that, I mean, I love the sun too. We can love the sun. I feel like it's vitamin D. Vitamin D. Yeah. As long as

you wear sunscreen. Right. It's okay. Back to the crazy things you say on the show. Yeah, back to that. Well, no, this is in this podcast or on this podcast. You've said in an interview that actually wasn't on your show that the one thing that has always been good in your marriage was your sex.

Is that what you said? The one? No, I just, no, I wouldn't say that's the one thing. I'm just saying that's the thing that like it doesn't. Yeah, it doesn't. Yeah, that's really. Still to this day. Yeah.

Give us your tips on. Being in the mood for so many years. So I'm going to break this down to my producer, Jan Shalais, because she's the person that coined this phrase. I get the credit for it, but I think it's because I'm the more, I guess my face is on camera, so I get credit for saying this, but it's her saying. It's like exercise. The more you do it, the more you do it.

And so you just have to do it. And then you're like, oh, I remember why I like this. My husband actually says that to me. He's like, you like this. Like, why aren't, like, you have to have a good time. Because you're exhausted. Your kids are young. You're working full time.

Right. You have a lot on your plate. And that can easily get pushed by the wayside. Yeah. And I don't know about you in your marriage, but I'm going to go personal. Are you an evening person or a morning person? Oh, definitely not morning. Do not breathe on me in the morning.

But men are morning people. No, no, no, no. If he comes to me in the morning, first of all, props to me with it doing in the morning, I find it disgusting to do it. He wants to do it in the morning? Only in the morning. And I'm like, still, he hasn't learned? No, he hasn't learned.

He'll never learn. He's a guy. He's never going to learn. But I said to him, here's the thing. There needs to be a yin and a yang here. It can't always be your way. Yeah. Because it feels like 90% of the time it's your way.

And now that we work together every day, it's going to have to sometimes be my way. Yeah. And your ways at night. My ways at night only. So in the morning, like, do you kiss too with the morning breath? Yeah, he wants to kiss, which I find, and I have a retainer in and I'm going to rip that out. No, I know.

The retainer. And he's got, like, his nasal strips on. It's like we are the most repulsive, disgusting. They don't care. They don't care. They don't see things. Which, like, is romantic, but it's also not. Do you know what I mean?

It's like, you don't care. You love me anyway. but it's also like you just think with your dick, you know? It's that dick has a brain of its own. Yeah, they don't care. And it doesn't see, it doesn't see the retainer. I just feel like. Look at my face.

I'm disgusted. Yeah, I'm disgusted about the morning. I'm already pre-disgusted for tomorrow morning. Although I will say. Wait, is it every fucking morning now? No, no, it's not. The greatest thing about this job. It's putting a cat.

This thing has like almost like repulsed him for morning time during the work week. That would be crazy. Because what time do you have to be at the studio? It's so early and it's like a miracle. It's like a miracle has occurred. You're like, hallelujah. Yeah, I'm like, may this show, may this show. That's why she wants.

May this show last until he suffers from erectile dysfunction, which should be like, like he's in his mid 50s. Shouldn't that be happening now? Wait. I was promised. Wait, but you said the more you do it, the more you do it. So, but I like that you're giving us a moment where you are a little bit like us. Yeah, no.

that we need. I'm going back to when I was your age. We are now in our 50s. We are not doing it every day. That is not happening. Yeah. But this, this interview that is attached to me was, like, said 20 years ago. Oh, really? Yeah. Like, it, like, it lives. Well, you look the same. That just shows you. Long may it live. But I'm just saying, I'm like, okay, guys. Okay. So he, the night is that the show is working well for your night preference. Yes. Oh, my God. Oh, You know what I'm thinking? Because do you shower at night or in the morning? I do both because I go to the gym.

So it's like I shower in the morning because I have to for work because I have to. I'm not a monster. My guest deserves. Why? If you show it at night, it would be the same thing. No, my guests deserve like a clean, fresh soapy moment. Got you. And then I go to the gym and then I shower when I get home.

So at night. At night. Yeah. Yeah. But what would be your preference if you didn't have to smell good for the guests? Oh, at night. At night. Yeah.

Yeah, of course. Yeah, I feel like maybe that's, it's like we're showered. We're nice and clean and fresh. Yeah. And we haven't like sat in our own funk all night. Correct. And you haven't started like, you haven't. I've started.

No, you haven't. You haven't. Night sweats, been there. Yeah, but your night sweats are more hormonal because you're young. Uh-huh. You're having youth night sweats. Wait till you have elderly night sweats. And by elderly, I mean like you're in your 50s night sweats.

It's a whole different. It's not cute. It's not like waking. But do you remember post-pregnancy stank? Like, the hormones all speak the same language. You get what I mean. So I'm not saying I know what that's like yet. But I think that because I'm fresh off a baby.

You are fresh. I mean, not that it's a year now. No, but you are so, like, you are. This is like, you're not going to appreciate how stunning and special and gorgeous and, like, perfect you are for 20 more years. Well, it's always like that. want you to remember this moment, remember this, because I am telling you, you are going to be like, I cannot believe. How did I not know? I was stunning and perfect.

You're so sweet. No, I'm telling you. But how do you do that then? How do you, not even just with looks, I feel like with everything, it's so hard to just be in the moment with everything. And I'm constantly like, time is fleeting. I can't remember the weekend. I'm waiting. for Monday. Why? I really like I need someone to educate me on how to just be in the mother fucking moment. You're not going to be because right now you have little kids. So your whole life is zoomed out five years in advance. You are planning. You are looking at nursery schools. You're applying to programs. You're looking at summer camps. You want to make like you're doing all of the things that you have to do as a modern day working parent. Yeah. You're doing all of the things.

And those are all of the right things. And I will. tell you, and I want you to take this and like live in it and know, have this knowledge that I didn't know. The work you are putting in now, even though you feel like you're not living in the moment, the work you are putting in now pays in dividends when they grow up because my kids have these incredible memories and things that I can barely recall because I was so in it that I It wasn't necessarily paying attention to it. Yeah. But they remember, they know they're literally paying attention to all the work you're doing.

They are fully aware of it. They are super aware. And having said that, they will give glory and honor to all the times they spent with their babysitter. Like their favorite moments will be babysitter adjacent. But I just want you to also prepare yourself for that. Like that is also like, I'm like, what was your favorite moment? a kid, oh, that time it Jess took us to Victorian Gardens. And I was like, but I took you there 500 times. They were like, but when Jess took us, like, it's like their memories will all go

back to their best babysitter moment. I can't believe you had three kids. Yeah. Like, I have two. Well, you have two. I know, but three. Like, how did you make the decision about the third? We just got pregnant. It was like surprise. It was like, oh my God. Yeah, yeah. I didn't even know I was pregnant for a really long time, I thought I had the flu. Back in the day, back in the Stone Ages. When you didn't put your period in an app and you didn't know. There was no app. There was no period tracking. And they used to tell us as long as you're exclusively nursing, you will not get pregnant. Uh-huh. That was like the lie they used to tell. Right. Right. And then I got pregnant and thought I had the flu, went to get Tamiflu, which was at the time a brand new drug. Right. And it allegedly

cut your flu symptoms in half and like, you know, cut your flu in half. And I went to the doctor and I said, I've had the flu for 10 days and I feel like I'm dying. And he said, could you be pregnant? And I had Lola with me, who was six months old. And I go, no, I have a baby and I'm nursing her exclusively. And he said, well, I can't prescribe this drug without like a clean urine test. So you have to, so took a urine test. pregnant. What did that feel like having a six-month-old?

Well, I blamed her. It's all your fault. He's like, this is your fault. That's crazy. I couldn't imagine. I know people, this happens to many. And later on, it's such a blessing. We would have had him any, like,

we were going to have him anyway. Yeah. Like, it was never a thought. If you had two or three. Yeah, yeah. Once we had two, we were like, oh, we're definitely doing this again. We just didn't know we would be doing it

where we had like kids that were, 15 months apart in age. Are they besties? They were besties all through childhood. And now as young adults, they argue the most. Oh, they do. It's interesting. They argue the most. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But they really are. They're all three of my kids are close. But when they were little, they were almost raised as twins. You know, like they were almost like twins. Yeah. But now they fight like twins might fight. Right. When you're a boy and a girl. Right. Or a man and a woman. This is important to you guys Your podcast, let's talk off camera

Which reminds me of our first interview And this is another thing you taught me aside from Botox Yes You told me another thing I remember when you were like Was it Regis used to say this or you That it was like save it for camera Save it for the air

Save it for the air It makes me think Every time I have a guess And we chitch out before I'm like Save it for the air Save it for the air Save it for the air

So your pod let's talk off camera Yes You're doing a pod to Like, you're like, I don't talk enough. But mine is off camera, which is the best. You're right. You guys, this should not be happening. I agree.

It, I agree. I think podcasts should have, I'm just trying to keep up with the times, but like, that's how we could. No. Is with the audio only. That's also where my listeners really are because, like, it's people in the car, like, you know what I mean? But you're like video, okay, you put it up, you make the clip.

No, but the successful podcast, we just, the successful podcasts are all on camera. people want a video component. I don't know how to make that happen. But I think the name of my podcast is let's talk off camera. But you know what? I think that will also allow you to get guests that don't feel like being on camera. We just had Oprah for this reason. I heard.

Oprah Winfrey was like, what do you mean? Not because it. It was for this week. She goes off camera. I would do that podcast and I go, I will book you. I'll have my talent book or reach out to. That is an amazing selling point. Like Kelly Rippa, check.

off camera. You don't need makeup. You don't need to be dressed. I've spoken to people in their pajamas, in their beds. But do you see them? Sometimes I see that. Sometimes I said Oprah put camera on. Oprah was camera on. But Oprah was interesting. She was getting ready to go out to dinner. And she looked so nice. They were like doing her hair. And she was like, this is crazy. And I said, you look so beautiful. And I was like, you know this is off camera. Right. She goes, no, I have to go out after this. Okay. So it allowed her the freedom of wedging in a podcast that she could get her hair done and still have like freedom to get her hair done. That's amazing. Yeah. So and like you can, I've had people on their, on their phone in the car picking up their kids from school.

I've had Carol Burnett. Carol Burnett was on her landline. Obsessed. On her landline. They figured out how to do that. Yeah. It was like we will, we will meet you where. you are. So you have your interviews with celebrity guests, but now you're also doing bi-weekly like Collins? Live call-ins on Radio Andy, which it's so astonishing to me that as a creature of live television, and we do this every day, you know, that the live call-in show freaks me out. But because you don't know what they're going to say? No, it's not even about that. It's just somehow live radio freaks me out way more than live TV. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

I don't know why that is. I think because it's anything new is new and new is scary. And so I just feel like I'm somehow going to ruin the entire platform of drive time radio. But it really does make it interesting. Like, people call in with their advice base. It's advice base. You're really good at advice, though. You think?

I think. You always like, you have such good advice. I always find that I come up with my best advice immediately after the call. collar hang. That color hangs up and I'm like, oh, God, are you still there? I just thought of some. I just thought of 12 things that are really good. So where can people listen to this?

On Radio Andy. Yeah. Okay. Serious X-M. And then wherever you get your podcasts. I mean, it's- She's a multi-platform queen. Multi-platform queen.

Multimedia queen. Such as yourself. Not really. Well, yeah. I mean, you are. You are. You are. You're doing this on camera, like a maniac. Like a fucking free.

Why don't you? Let me ask you this. Tell me. Tell me. What's up. Why don't you do this very same thing, but like in your marital bed? You like to get out of the house. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. See, I also feel like it's become such a cliche to like do your podcast and you're a sweat band. Do you know what you, like, you know when things have passed a thing and then they become cliche. And now like everyone wants to bring their dog and be in sweats and you're like, you're doing a bit. Yeah, but that's my bit. But I, but my podcast is off camera. self-camera says real. And do you know what I did for Oprah? I put a brazier on because I felt like she, like, she deserved it. She deserved a bra. So there I was in my bra that's literally like riding up. And I keep having to like tug it down. Why is everything riding up for you? Because it rides up because there's like nothing there to like hold it down. Wait, how was, was Oprah? Was it the first time you've ever interviewed her? No, no, no. She's been on my talk show a bunch. But like it was the first time on the podcast. Yeah. And I just. got very... Are you friends now? In my mind, we are friends. Like, in my mind, I think we are friends.

Yeah, yeah. But Oprah told me it's not time for me to leave the talk show, which is the opposite. Is she a psychic? She just said, you'll know when it's time and it's not time. She's like, you and Mark have just hit your stride. I love that. So... It's true. Have you had Oprah here yet? No. I feel like you need to interview Oprah. I think she would love you. Really? I do. I'll put her on my wish list. Yeah, I think... I think that she... would love you. Do you have a wish list? Well, Oprah was the She was it. I think you should do my podcast too. I want to. And I think we should talk about in bed. Oh, yay. In bed. Yeah. Pop culture. You can have

your kids right there. I know because look, we didn't get to pop culture. This is all pop culture. We had a whole pop culture page. Should I save it for yours? Yeah, save it for mine and we'll talk about it. I mean, unless you didn't get enough if I didn't. I got, I got enough. What else do you want to know? That's it. I'm letting you go. Is this the big brush off? No, it's me keeping you on time for your for your outskies, my love. As a pro does. You are a pro. You are a pro.

You are a pro. You are a pro. I'm obsessed with you. Do you know that I love, love doing your podcast? Really? Yes. In a way that typically I'm very nervous. Yeah. And I'm never nervous with you.

You are like, I don't know, I feel like you're my other daughter. I love that. Which means I have two young grandsons. Which, by the way, I never, like, I usually don't really have people back. but I always want you back. Really? I'll be back tomorrow. Yeah. What do you want to know?

What do you want to know? So much more. I love you, Kelly. Thank you so much for coming. It's great to see you. It's great to see you. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat.

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