Not Skinny But Not Fat - Khloe Kardashian’s Unedited Pic Goes Viral

Episode Date: April 13, 2021

Arielle and I discuss all things Kardashians! We break down the wild Khlophotogate (Khloe Kardashian’s unedited photo going viral), talk #KRAVIS, and recap the last episodes of KUWTK. You wont believe the DM I got that makes me believe that Kourt might love me back. Listen until the end to find out! Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Okay, you guys, we've been in Kardashian overload lately, which I am soups okay with because I freaking love them. And I realize that my feed is also like, picture of Noah, Kardashian content, picture of Noah, Cravis date night photo. Well, they're giving us like so much to talk about. They're just like Courtney and her vegan sushi just like got to see it every day, no boo every day. Every night. Our day. every day. Avocado slices for the win. Oh my God. That probably cost like literally $80. Oh my gosh. I really hope that you guys saw my recreation because the day that you put up the avocado, I literally like find myself a 32 year old mother. Okay. Slicing cucumber,

picking flowers and putting soy around it and taking a picture of it and writing vegan sushi. Dead. And like I remember I was talking to my mom in the phone, and I, and she was like, what are you doing? And I was like, mom, you don't want to know what I'm doing. She's like, why? What are you doing? And I'm like, you actually don't want to know. It actually looked like no boo style. Like it was with the flower in the middle. And someone was like, where'd you get the, and what the funniest part is, like, I'm such a fat ass that I ate the whole thing. It should have been a prop for my like photo shoot. But I ate the whole thing and then proceeded to cut up another kuk. And do the same. And eat it with the rest of the sauce. I did coconut aminos because I had.

have, um, so allergy. Wait, did I even tell you guys that Arielle's here? Because Arielle's here. And it's funny because people say we have the same voice. So I might as well, I just like have people that I'm talking to me. It's only you speak gay. Like two of me. Like you're responding to yourself.

Which I would do. Which I feel like it should be an invention like me to me. Like there is the meme, me to me. Yeah. So we needed to just rehash all Kardashian stuff. And we actually recorded the episode. a couple days ago, but I needed to insert this alert, alert update because so much has happened in the like the day since we recorded. Like, A, there was a new episode of keeping up, which we just

watched with Addy, which I'm a convert with a K because, and I love that you guys accept me because I call myself out for being a hypocrite a lot of time. And like, I was like, who's Addison? Like, when their friendship like came about in like October, I was like, who is this? And like, why is she with Courtney and what is this obsession and all the shit and what happened I don't know either of the song obsession with them which by the way like I'm not joking Ariel what is the song we use to calm down Noah obsession he's obsessed with I was obsessed and he's obsessed I've said obsession I think her song she's coming out with a new song and I was like oh I should probably listen to it and then I went to listen to it and I was like I felt like a music producer just like no his music and it's like

yeah that's the beat that's the beat Timba, Timbalan, you know? And I was just like, oh, yes, hit me. And so I had dancing in my room and I was like, I've been waiting for a song to dance to in my room, you know? And like there hasn't been one for a while. There hasn't been like a pop song. Oh, excuse me.

Since Shakira last week. Shakira, Shakira. There was girls like me. Can you tell me that you're looking for a girl like me? If you guys missed my shuffle, then please find it on my Instagram. because you'll be impressed. So yeah, ever since girl like me and then obsessed was like,

I just feel like it was that I'm not here to judge her voice or her auto tune or like whatever. I'm here to say this is a young talented girl who has what it takes. I feel like to be a pop star and it worked. Like it just worked. They just. So I converted.

Whoever her team is like turned her overnight into a pop star with that blonde hair and like I don't know those. that Britney vibe like everything they were just like you got to change it up to look like a pop star and that's a thing which like you know I love to give props to me like for things is that I'm not a hater just to hate you know I'm a hater when I'm like I'm not into something so I'm not like super into TikTok dances with like fake smiling and weirdness so I wasn't into her but then like give me a pop star Britney moment and I'll be all over you you know what I mean and I loved it I even said like

one of her outfits in the video, that white outfit with the like corset vibe and like the dickies pants vibe and the boots. Like that's my vibe. Like I don't like the pop star thing that it's become like leotards and glitter and high heels. Like that is and I feel like every pop star does it. Even Taylor Swift sometimes will do it. I'm like Taylor that's not your vibe. Taylor's like whole like last like I love when she's like a fairy. Yeah. Like fairy vibes. Yeah. Like hippie fairy vibes. But I think she did a concert with like leotard vibe. And I was like, that's what I was going to say. There was one concert which she was only in leotards.

I feel like they don't call it leotards. I feel like when Beyonce's on tour, she's not like, where is my leotard for this number of, um, what's that song? I'm trying to think of like an example of a song. You can't even think of one Beyonce song. You know what? Where's my single ladies leotard? Where's my glitter and leotard for single ladies, people?

well. I feel like they call it body suit or something. I'm sure it's not, it's not a body suit. I just want to call it a leotard forever. But I hate it. I hate that vibe. I hated when Brittany became a leotard in high heels performer. I love performers who come to perform so they need to be in sneaks or boots or something comfortable. Yeah. And not a fucking body suit. Leotard, sorry, up your anus. So anyway, Addison was my vibe. So that's why I'm a convert with a K. And I hope that you all love me and accept me for changing my opinions because I'm human. So I don't have stick to one. So I am into her. I started even following her on Instagram and I just want to say this last thing about her before we move on to importance things that we want to update about is that her Instagram is literally all of her, which is very like self-absorbed. But it's like,

it's like, it's like charismaticly self-absorbed. I don't know how to explain it. It's very like, here's me and here's me again and here's me smiling again and here's me with a nice coffee and here's me in pink and charismatic about that. No, but I'm saying like it's like not annoying. It's like, oh, I don't know how to explain it. It's awe. She's posting off pictures. Yeah? Yeah, it's like, what I'm saying is like she is like me, me, me, me, me.

But like that's like what she's doing right now. I accept her for who she is. Yeah. Totally. Her song is a hit like. I'm telling you guys, Noah cries and I'm like, me too. You're obsessed with me. As much as you.

Like, if you're on that pre-site, you can catch me in Ariel, singing it on the street. No, legit. Like, I was being like, And I time for you, too. I think he's more like what's going on. Okay, you guys, I know you want to be super cool and like go thrift store jamming. But like it's kind of a pandemic and also you're so used to doing everything online. But you're so cool that you want to wear like unique pieces that no one has and not just, you know, shop at Zara like everyone else.

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shit happened ever since then. So we're just going to give you the major updates, which have been that the photo that talked about fucking photo that again I think is beautiful and most people do. But Chloe did not. Chloe went on an Instagram live last night

which was on Wednesday. Wednesday night. Right? Last Wednesday night. She did a five two minute Instagram live where she she picks up her shirt, shows her abs, does this, like, jump to show us that, like, nothing jiggles. I don't really know.

There were a lot of abs there, a lot of like, yeah, me. And then Kim was there. Kim is like, ha, ha, ha. Like, I'm sure it was Kim's idea. I feel like it was all Kim's idea. She was like, ha, ha, ha, ha, to the camera, shut it off, whatever. I posted it. And honestly, like, Ariel was here with me.

Like, I was overwhelmed with how I felt sad. It wasn't cringy to me. It wasn't. it was just like, oh my God, like, why did she feel like she had to do that? Why did she feel like she has something to prove? And again, what boggles my mind the most, and this is like an HB2 situation is like, the photo looks so good. The photo looks so good.

And she's bugging about it and she's spinning about it to the point that she felt like she needs to show. Like, this is not an Aubrey O'Day situation where, you know, the Daily Mail posted a photo where she was, you know, her Instagram, she was looking 100 pounds lighter than. than in real life. We're talking here. Chloe looking the same. Little, you know,

fine tuning, if you would call it, of Photoshop or airbrushing or whatever, that she has took so freaking far that, so she does this live to be like, this is the real me. I have thousands of abs.

Whereas, like I said, you guys, the original photo that was leaked or whatever the fuck, her body is still. amazing there are still super flat stomach that we can all just dream of so she does that i'm so sad i'm like oh my god she is has body dysmorphia like what's going on that she feels so terrible about this

photo that all of us collectively you know that's a thing no one was talking about this photo badly people were just like oh it's like an unedited photo but i don't think anyone i don't think anyone was judging whatever the point is so sad that moment it's so sad but But also I just think that like it was so talked about that she like maybe like all publicity is good publicity because like why would she want people to continue talking about it? You can just at this point ignore this shit. You can at this point ignore the ship and I think that then she posted a post. She wrote yes, I just did a live. She put a screenshot from the live and then she wrote a really heartfelt message basically saying what we were all kind of talking about.

I think we did talk about it in this episode that like. She's been, you know, criticized her whole life and held up to insane beauty standards and body standards and she's worked really hard for her body and she wants to show off, I guess, she doesn't want it to not be represented the way she wants it to be or like she, she wants the world to see her a certain way, which is why she chooses to go out fully made all the time with heels, whatever. That's what she was saying. She wants the world to see her a certain way. And that's the picture she wants to paint. She doesn't have to show us what she doesn't want to show us. Which I agree with. I think I say in this episode too, I am not miss. Show your flaws, your rolls, your cellulite, your ass crack, your your stretch marks.

No, like I'm not going to, I have stretch marks. I don't need everyone. I don't need to be like, here's my. There are some accounts that do that. There are some. And, you know, that's body positive in its own way. I don't think to be body positive or to be body positive or to be whatever you need to like you can embrace them like i don't curse at my stretch marks every day i'm

not like you discussing piece of shit i'm like these are here i've had them since i was 12 yeah and like i've had a love hate relationship with them no not even love but an except like an acceptance it's part of our genetics we all have it whatever my point is i don't think you need to i mean i agree with that part of it but it's kind of hard for me to like agree with i mean I don't need to agree. It's her feelings. But the other part of it, which is like, but the picture, it wasn't like a, what was so wrong with the picture?

It wasn't like a picture of, let's say, like, Chloe 10 years ago, right? It was a picture of like, do you know what I'm saying? It was literally just a picture of a girl by a pool with a really hot body with probably no makeup. But you guys, again. But I'm saying it wasn't a. bad picture of Chloe 10 years ago where like maybe she wasn't where she is now and like doesn't want to show that it was a picture right now where she's literally looking the same minus the Photoshop of to the picture minus the editing to the picture right and she looks great she doesn't

she doesn't want that out there she doesn't want that out there because specifically this photo wasn't supposed to be out there which again this is like an emirata thing like she wants to own her image like that the pictures from some years ago she put them out like it was either from keeping up or it's from a red carpet those exist she can't have seasoned assist on things that exist yeah this was apparently a leaked photo again we still don't know by mj by an assistant anyway listen i do love chloe and it is a complicated relationship i just got a dm from a follower the other day that it was like i'm a new follower do you love or do you hate the kardashians so it made me lull i obviously love them and i love

keeping up and I and everything like that I just at times love you know what they're putting out there and what they're doing what they're saying and what they're thinking and at times don't and this is more of a moment where I honestly feel like Chloe will hopefully in 10 years whatever look back and maybe try to see this from another point of view where she can see that that this was kind of an this has a deeper situation going on because it's like a projecting thing like this is all going on with her. None of us are like, wow, she looks so bad in this, you know what I mean? Yeah, but I think it's like a product of being in that industry and not, and like, I think it would happen. It's very relatable that she feels that way because I can't imagine what it's like to be in

her shoes and be told what she's been told by millions of people and not care that a picture that you don't like personally like got out there. She probably hates that picture. Imagine if a picture got out there to millions of people that you despise. Like, I get that it's hard. And again, we talk about in the episode that like, you know, you don't always, like,

I'll see myself in a picture and I judge things differently than what you'll be like, whether you look beautiful and I'll be like, no, my chin is, you know, this. And I'm not saying that. I totally get that.

I just, obviously, this was a very over-dramatized. Yeah. They took this further than almost anything that has happened with the Kardashians over the last few years. it's just been a wild ride

but I guess it was that important to her and we are sending Coco all our love but I was glad to say you guys at the last episode featuring Addie was really fun I had a smile on the whole time there was only one like I said in this episode sub contrived storyline which was the bunker

which was stupid but then you have a minute to get a bite to eat you know fill up a glass of shelter but like the main thing was Addison and her relationship with Courtney and MJ's birthday, which we love MJ. So it was a really good episode. But anyway, enjoy the rest of this episode where we talk Mark Kardashian's past episodes of this final season.

Thank you for being on here, Ariel. Love you. You guys, it's been Baby Central lately. It's been, I don't know if it's a pandemic. I don't know if it's because I've had a baby that like just I've noticed babies being born and people talking about fertility and, you know what, being open even about their infertility or just their experience with trying to get pregnant and so many women go through infertility or, you know, just the process of trying to find out about our fertility.

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that's modern fertility.com slash not skinny for $20 off your fertility test. That means your test will cost $139 instead of like hundreds but not instead of thousands that will cost to the doctor's office. Modernfertility.com slash not skinny. You guys, I'm already pissed off but I've decided to have our yell on the podcast today.

I'm literally going to drop this mic. She's gotten instructions for me because I'm so used to scheduling with guests already and it's like, okay, five o'clock, I have a Zoom, like they're on time. With you, it's like, Ariel, can you do it with me?

Okay, are you finished? Are you done? Can you come out? Okay, can we start? Okay, now you have to pee. You know what I mean? Like, I like, I like calendar meetings.

I like schedules. I don't like this like wing-a-wing in it. I didn't get an invite. Put it on the Cal. Don't you need it on the Cal? Well, maybe I need to put it on the cow. Put it on the cal. Anyway, for those of you don't know, Ariel,

she actually used to do the podcast with me way more regularly, which we need to talk about this for a second. She used to do a podcast with me way more regularly. We would just, both of us, shit the shit about, like, pop culture before I started, like, interviewing people most of the time.

So, yeah, she was filler. And I was fired. Filler, you were filler. You were filler and they were fired. No, you were never fired. You're always in the heart of this podcast. as needed as needed and as wanted I told you I do I not send you when people are like are yell are yell you do you do and I legit love to do this except she loves it you guys

not once has she shared it on her stupid ends like now once has she even made no like she has like icebreakers and shit at her job all the time and she I was like what did you say today and she was like oh they asked like something unique about me I said what did you say oh that I like play soft softball I was like what about the fact that you like are on your sister's pop culture podcasts or like I don't know that's something interesting she's like oh I don't know my next fun fact is going to be that I fucking hate fun facts I hate them I have nothing I don't know how she does that either like I hate games like that too but I'm like here's something I'm not saying you guys I'm not being like annoying like oh say you're like your sister's like

an Instagram podcast or whatever I'm saying say like oh fun fact I like really like pop culture and celebrities and I go on my sister's podcast a lot. She happens to be... Not skinny, but not fat. Really amazing. She is. So, but she doesn't use it.

Other people like use the dumbest shit. And she said, what did? Oh my God. No, no, no, we're not. No, we're really not. What'd you say? We're not. No, we're really not going through my list of fun facts that are made up.

I really feel so bad for her and her nine to six. Sometimes, no, she works at a great, great company and, and great people and everything. But just those little things about corporate. corporate culture things that I never like people think that I'm so outgoing and like oh it'd probably be easier for no like if even when I get asked a guest on podcast and stuff and I'll get before like an email being like okay um you might get asked what was your first date what's the worst thing your mom ever said to you and and I'm like thank you can't do the podcast I hate I hate having like questions that people are going to ask me that I need answers to when people ask me what

my housewives tagline is it's just not my vibe but i wanted to talk to our yell today because we have so much keeping on with the kardashian stuff and we fucking love them and it's been a while and we're in my new office slash podcast space in your new podcast room i'm so excited on i know it's so pretty i'm so like that i need to get my neon sign i need to get more stuff in the room also for audio purposes right now like i'm scared it's a little echoy so sorry. And it's just really nice. But the new house in general is so fun. We moved to a larger apartment in the building. Still with this fucking bit. Closer to me. It's closer to her and floors. No, it's wild. I feel like it's just so wild that for us, it's like, oh, we live in the same

building and our mom is in the same building. But it's just like a wild concept. It's the most wild concept ever. Like nobody says I live in the same building as my sister and my mom. And my mom. My other sister lives three blocks away. Like, who, what? So for people, you know that a lot of times, Alison would kill me. I forgot to tell you. Oh, what? At work.

At work, my Wi-Fi, a lot of times have bad connection. I haven't told you this before. And I'm like, why the fuck do I have such bad connection? I go and check and I'm on your Wi-Fi all day. I'm dead. All day. I'm dead. And I'm like, Amanda, 5G.

I'm like, why the hell am I on your Wi-Fi? Oh, my God. Oh, my God. close we live. That's how sick. And like my mom is in the building. And we're in New York City, right? We're not in like Kansas. It's like a, it's wild to have this sort of kibbutz in the middle of the city. And it makes it, it's so great. But you guys, it gets wild. Like there is drums. Even today we have drums. And like, I mean, I guess I can like say, I don't know. Wait. I don't know. Oh my God. What are you about to say? I was really nervous.

I was going to say that I like got approached about. doing a TV show. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. I need to follow up on that. I forgot about that. I had a conversation about it. I mean, like the shit that happens here needs to be captured. Right. But I think when I got reached out to about this, I was like, oh, my God, our dream come true, right? You guys know that follow me. Like, I always say, like, we're the next

Kardashians and all that shit. But I'm also very aware, and I said this on the call. Like, I know every person in the world thinks they need a TV show or like that their family is so funny and their friends are so funny. So because I'm such a self-aware person, like, even though I'm able to say that, I can also be like, wait, but everybody thinks that. So are we? But then at the same time, obviously I was approached about it. So I guess somebody else thinks that. But then while Ariel was crying about this when I told her that I got this email, I was like, wait, let's for a second take a look at like what this means. Like, would you share this? Like, would mom do that like first of all my mom I tell her my mom is like no I'm a private present I'm not

and I'm like meanwhile meanwhile and she's like I'm a very like I'm like mom you're and then I ask my whole family I was like who would be most suited to have like a TV show like reality show and everyone's like you like about me and then I'm like who's next and they're like mom because she's like the next up that's like gossipy dramatic like all this shit but anyway yeah fun things could be you know people are like coming soon well I'm just saying that we're a very interesting family and we have shit all the time but the question is if let's say our drama today or your drama with Allison like is like would you feel comfortable airing that and have her see I mean what would she see she would see that we were talking about it like that we talked

shit a lot that we talked shit about it that's what I'm saying I mean I guess you just have to like be committed to like put it all out there if you sign up for a TV show. That's what it is. You have to be committed. And I guess you have to make some sort of family packed or whoever goes on the show packed that like you can't get offended. You can't like start, even though I'm sure with every reality show, whether it's family or friends or even just co-workers, you know there's going to be shit said and you're going to see shit and you're just going to have to like be cool with it. Anyway, it just like wild because people don't get how much like Like, and I always say this when I get asked about how I started my Instagram is that when I started and it was like more memes and then it became like me and then like celebrities is like before I would post a lot about celebrities, everything I would post it. It would be DM to you.

So like instead of what you're seeing posted, it would just be to Ariel like here's this hot pick of Haley Bieber like here's this, here's that. And now instead of DMing it to her, I just post it because I'm like, oh, everyone wants to know. I remember when you first started doing that, I would get really upset. was like, how could you not send this to me first? Yeah. And I remember I would like really get to me. I was like, how did she not send this to me? No, I remember.

I remember. And I, and like, I just remember that feeling. And now, I mean, like, we've evolved and I just see it on your Instagram. I'm like an avid follower. But, but in the beginning, I really was jealous that like it was going first on your Instagram and not sent to me. I remember. I remember that completely.

And it's so funny because it is true. That's what happened. One day I was just like, wait, like, maybe you guys care about this. instead of me just, like, arrowing it over to Ariel. And, like, you guys need to know, like, this is actually, sometimes I can't express, like, we were driving in the car the other day and just, like, talking, just like, our, we were just talking about Haley Bieber's butt. The most important, like, thing going on right now.

Like, do you think her butt is real? And then I was like, well, listen, she is resilient. But then again, that shit stands up. It's really perking. So I was like, maybe BBL. And she's like, what's BBL? What's BBL again? Brazilian butt lift.

Oh, Brazilian buttlift. Which, like, I could be needing of. I could also need. I know. I feel like my ass needs to sag a little bit because if it would be BBLed, it would be. It would be too big. You know what I mean?

It would just be huge. But we also, like, we'll just talk about, like, I'll, like, literally call her to discuss, like, which I'm sure so many of you can relate to and have a person like this in your life. but I'll call her to discuss like, oh, my God, like, how do we feel about this? Like, Scott's so pathetic. Like, why is he like this?

You're sad about Scott? Yeah. Oh, see, we're not in the same wavelength, I told you. No, I cried the other day seeing how he, when you posted how he spoke to Courtney. It really, like, made me so upset. You guys, we deserve to know what W2H were putting in our bodies and why. But most of all, we just know. that we should be taking vitamins and whether it's a daily vitamin, a prenatal if you're looking to

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Ritual.com slash not skinny and start your ritual today so I don't know if you guys saw but I posted a throwback when Courtney was pregnant with Penelope I guess that Scott was basically oh when she after she gave birth to Penelope Scott was like why aren't you back

to like your weight like do it faster 93 pounds is like the goal like and I was like wait why are we always feeling bad for Scott and forgetting he was an asshole and forgetting that he cheated and I think just back then they weren't out with like they were like open but not like Tristan's cheating scandal got out there you know Lamar's cheating scandal he like died like OD in the brothel like they had to say was it a brothel you know what I mean like all this shit came out I feel like with Scott it was very protected like it was

never said that he cheated but I'm sure if we go back and watch it'll be so insinue that it's like obvious that that's what it was. Yeah. So he was shitty and like I'm a scort. Listen, I know if you're going to be like, wait Amanda, aren't you like a scort fucking forever? And if you guys keep up, I'm obviously hashtag cravis die hard right now. But I always, when I post about Travis,

I'm like, I'm just thinking about Scott because I know how involved he is in their lives in the Kardashians lives. And I can only imagine what it feels like for someone to be taking his spot, even though it's been so many years since Courtney and him got separated, he was still the stand-in of her plus one. And the thing is, like, Eunice was so young that, like, he couldn't, it wasn't like a competition. It was like Eunice was going to end at some point, whatever, Yun's, Eunice. He was going to end at some point.

That relationship was going to end. With Travis, I think it's a lot more serious. Like, we do think, like, things are going to happen in the future. And also, he's been on a reality TV show before. So it wouldn't be surprising if he'd be, like, if they have another show on. on Hulu that he'd be a part of it. Oh, I didn't even think that far. And he takes Scott's place because, like, I feel like Travis is a serious guy.

And, like, there's going to be no bullshit between Court and Scott. Like, it's, I think it's going to change their relationship. And you saying that thing about Yun's made me think about the fact that Scott dates these young girls maybe is a reason to, like, keep it simple, not date anyone who has any expectations. He even said it on this season of keeping up. was like, which like I told Ariel this is another conversation. We have like legit, just like, hey, this is how we feel is that I don't buy Scott. I feel like he puts on a lot of a show for keeping up where he's like two episodes ago where he was like,

you know, and I told Sophia that like you're my priority. And it's like, A, you had three years with Sophia. The fact that you're like putting her down on television and saying that you're. she gave you an ultimatum between her and Courtney and you were basically like, yeah, Courtney, like I feel like that's belittling his three-year relationship. You know what I mean? It's a long-ass relationship. It's a long-ass relationship.

Like you... I don't care if you're a 19 or not. It's long. And they didn't break up because of Courtney. Like, I promise you that there was more shit going on and, like, I don't know for the show or just look good to Courtney. Like, I don't know why, but like, he's like, yeah, like, you're important to me. So, like, I told her, like, that's my priority.

I just don't buy it. I feel like it's an act. It's not like the real Scott is like, you were with Sophia for three fucking years. I'm sure, like, she had to deal with the fact that the mother of your children is in your life. And she's Courtney Kardashian. She's fucking hot and all this shit. But, like, Courtney isn't asking to be your priority. She's saying for the kids to be a priority.

Courtney, like, it just felt really like. And I feel like the fact that we make fun for being like, Yeah. Yeah. It's because she's also so immune to his bullshit already. I feel like everyone's like, oh, like she's his priority. Meanwhile, like Courtney's like, yeah, because she like either knows he's full of shit or like legit isn't, it's like, if I could just so imagine being in that spot where like, you know the person is a talker. He says the same shit over and over. He says he's going to change.

He says he's like going to do this. He says he's going to do that. But he's the same old shit. And I feel like that's got. And even for Sophia, just like give more. respect to that relationship rather than say on television imagine your sophia being like basically belittling their relationship to like a very you know bottom liney has to do with the kardashian thing which i'm sure there was more to it but i'll tell you what it also is scott isn't a necessary character on

the show like it's not necessary to have scott come on if not for courtney we don't care about Scott, right? Like, think about it. Like, and he knows that if he continues to say these sweet things to Courtney, that's a reason to continue being on the show. Sisters, you're bringing it today. What do you mean? Producers, producers want to hear that shit. They want to hear him say all this sweet shit. So he knows what role he plays and he probably, like you said, plays into that, says all this sweet shit. Because otherwise, like, I feel like if somebody was sweet talking me for years on years and tells me, like, I'm their one, I'm their priority. I don't want to do everything. I'm going to marry Courtney.

Like wouldn't you eventually give in, but she doesn't because it's probably outside of the show, not really like that. He continues dating these 19 year olds. He's not actually that serious. He's in Miami for like a million years, like all this shit. But I feel like he knows what he needs to do in order to stay on the show. And he wants to stay on the show because he wants to continue being relevant. That's the other thing. Mike drop. Was it not good? So good. Because I was talking about it the other day. Like, no offense. But like, so he knows like he. Oh my God. This is a. another thing that we just talked about like in my kitchen because I remember I was saying to you like that he was made by like Kim right and then I said he has money now also because of the Kardashians and that he I said if now for Courtney he'd probably still have money he'd probably still be a party boy

in New York City just not to this like extent yeah but I was thinking about what you just said because he had the show flip it like dysic and like we you're right like we like the dynamic with Courtney I didn't care that much about seeing him flip houses even though he'd have his little Scott isms and whatever it's still not like I wouldn't want to watch a show about Scott and his you know life I want to see him with what it pertains I don't even care actually about you know all the shit that they whenever he has scenes with like all of a sudden like MJ he's like cooking like an omelet with MJ in the kitchen so weird but listen the Kardashians are very very loyal and like Scott is in their family by hook my Israeli

friends say by hook or by cook, by hook or by cook. Like, doesn't matter what he does. He's in it to win it. By hook or by crook. No, I know. There's really friends say a cook. That was my joke. And I just feel like he's protected by them by like a gazillion contracts or something. I don't know. But I feel like, done, done, done. That's going to change with Kravis. So that's why cut to Easter weekend where Travis and Courtney and Travis's kids, including Atiana de la Jolla, which like

Atiana de La Jolla is the daughter of Oscar de La Jolla and Shannon Mocler before Shannon got with Travis. And then Travis kind of, I don't know what kind of a father Oscar is because Atiana does post like Happy Father's Day to both fathers, but Travis did

raise her as his own and is still like a father to her, which is so sweet and crazy and makes me love him. And I actually watched Meet the Barkers when it was on all those years ago. And I remember then loving him and thinking he's so sweet and so gentle and such a good father. And I think I don't want to like mom shame, Shanna, but if I remember correctly, she was like kind of lazy, not doing much. And he was

kind of like just exemplary father. And you could tell all of his kids are obsessed with him and posts about him. And like he just seems. And like I love that him and Courtney were friends all these years. Like if you look back at keeping up all these episodes, he was just like around. He was ice skating on Christmas. He was at the Christmas parties. He was even, she did that stupid Addison Ray, like YouTube. And they were talking about like Camp Courtney. And she's like, Travis is in Camp Courtney. And then I remember I posted another video, um, from keeping up where he was also there when they were making like ginger red cookies. I feel like this is like a soulmate type of love. And I'd really not mind to be adopted by the both of them. He's such a good father to people who are in his

children biologically. Hi, we're looking for daddies. Yes, we are. We'll submit applications. We want. No, they're so cute and like, they're just so cute. And I die for them.

And then, so they went on the ski vacation and after the ski vacation, which like their kids are already all friends and like TikToking together. Oh my God. And they've grown up together though. True, because they're neighbors. And they did this TikTok video.

It was like past the mic to this. person like pass the mic to the person to your left pass the mic to the person who's wearing flannel so obviously what i love about corny and why she's relatable she sucks at like public speaking she sucks at like like just coming up with things on the spot so her pass the mic was i'm passing them uh passing the phone to my boyfriend which is like not the point but like cute to hear or give anything to hear call him her boyfriend and then the second time she's like pass the phone to oh like she couldn't even literally couldn't do it and then rain started going fucking wild and saying fuck that shit he started cursing up the was he is wild he is like literally

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So then after the ski vacation, they came right to Palm Springs. And we know this because Chris Jenner posted the monogram golf carts and even kind of like TMIed us in the caption where she was like, because we saw Kim, Courtney, Chloe, Kylie Kendall. But then she was like, and by the way, like Travis Barker, Travis Scott and Corey Gambles aren't in the picture because they hurried off to the, you know, the, grass or whatever you call it. No Kanye mentioned. A, no Kanye mentioned and B, like very insistent on mentioning that the names of the

significant others. The names of which like I don't know about a lot of people. I'm just in knowing about Travis Scott and Kylie. And I don't know. I think they're kind of, if I had to guess, they're kind of like co-parenting slash banging. I think they're together. Oh, really?

Like together together? I mean, like I think that they're like they haven't fully like, separated. I don't think they're completely broken up. Oh, that maybe could be true. Because like, I mean, like, they can be co-parenting, but like I feel like they're probably Yeah. Together. Yeah. And I don't

know why Kendall's like has a boyfriend, Devin Booker, but like it's, I don't know like he's not like around much it doesn't seem like. I mean, she probably just like, he's not like in the fam yet. Yeah. Like Travis is like a lifelong best friend of the fam.

Oh my God. Stop Ariel. We're going to talk about it. The other Travis, oh, my God, Travis Barker and, oh, Travis Scott. Yeah. Oh, two Travis's. Oh, yeah. I just realized that. The other Travis has a baby mama, Kylie. Yeah.

And Corey. And Corey. So anyway, and Travis is just, like I say a lot of my Instagram, he surprises me with his activity on social media because I just started following him when him and Courtney got together and, like, did not expect to have so much content, Travis. He shares post his stories. He shares everything he's tagged in. He shared Chris Jenner's like golf club club thing.

It's like, relax. You were just tagged in it. You don't have to share it. So he is a shareer of all things, which is so cute. But we need to talk about the episode, but also talk about, listen, even the episode, oh my God, what was that when the whole contrived plot line of Kendall wanting a baby and then babysitting Malika's baby. Like, I legit almost died because it was painful.

I was like, this is, there's a saying in English that's called like, you're basically like mocking my, in Hebrew I meant. You're basically mocking my intelligence. You know what I mean? Like you're acting like Amanda, you're a dumb fuck and you are sitting in your dumb fuck house believing that Kendall said she's, you know, a kid hungry or whatever. Not kidding. That's Army Hammer.

What's it called? She really wants kids? No, she set a name for it though. Oh, baby fever. She had baby fever. I'm a kid hungry. And then it's like, okay, so here babysit this baby, like Malika's the baby. And then you see all the people there, but she acted like she was alone with the baby for five hours.

And then the next scene she was babysitting like. So, but a lot of people that I'm complaining about this season being soup, soup contrived are reminding me that this was filmed. quarantine so like that's a factor and why it's so also imagine producers coming to kendall and being like this episode you're gonna say that you really want a baby because everybody wants a baby you want to uh babysit them and then she's stuck in a situation where she has to film probably for hours pretending to babysit it sounds like the worst thing oh my god it actually sounds like and that's what's happening every episode it's like this episode we're gonna do an obstacle chorus.

This episode, like, we're going to, like, set up court in Scott. Like, every storyline needs to be contrived. Every storyline. Also, they're the worst actors. Like, oh, this past episode, and it's as far as I got, I'll be honest. When, like, court walks into the kitchen, oh, what are you doing here? And he has, like, I don't know. Like, yeah, cups of, like, cereal and, like, marshmallows, yeah.

Yeah, and a tray. And I was like, what the hell is going on? Oh, where's poop? Push. Pushkanush is at moms. Oh, where's Rainey and Mace? Oh, they're at Coco's. Like, oh, where are our kids? Oh, we're just. And oh, my God, no, but court in the bed, writing in the journal being like, I'm just doing some push work. Writing like Courtney, like with hearts, like in her journal. Oh, my God. I'm just doing push work in my That's so funny. So it's like, you guys, and again, I said this, like, there was always like a contrived sub, sub, subplot.

If you think about old, old seasons where they would like prank Chris or something. Yeah. So like there would be family drama, whatever was going on, IRL. And there would be like some like pranking, some whatever. And it was always cute because you had the main shit and then that. But now that it's the whole episode, like this past episode, no, this past episode, it was the Addison Ray episode. But this past episode, the one before, so it was, you know, Scott and Courtney contrived.

Because we know, like, the fact that the sisters are like, don't you think Courtney should be Scott? Like, you're going to try that old tired trick on us. Like, does your pony not have new tricks? But when Kendall said, like, Courtney's going to kill me for saying this, but I'm team squirt. Like, I feel like that was real. I mean, yeah, because I get that you could be like team scored at heart knowing that it's

like not going to happen. Yeah. But also the fact that it's like let's try to get them on a date. Like they're way past that, right? They're way past like. If they'd want to go on a date, they'd fucking go on a date. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. Like he'd take her on a date. No, it was so stupid. Listen, Courtney served some looks. Kendall. Also a lot of times I feel like she like has said like she was, her and Kylie were always like a lot less on the show than the three sisters. And suddenly, like she's in a lot more scenes and court is in like every scene like you said and so like listen what i don't think we're getting rid of the Kardashians listen i think they're moving on i always said like that the hulu deal that they announced like i was never everyone thought

the hulu deal meant like another keeping up and i was like not for sure not for sure like i was always worried they'd bring some like kiley is producing a cooking show you know like I just wanted to not jinxed it. I just wanted to see, because listen, at the end of the day, am I upset? It's all contrived. Yes. Do I want legit reality TV that's reality? Yes.

But am I going to take what I can fucking get? Anything. Yes. I don't care. Like, say a sentence. I'm in. Like, I'll watch just to see Courtney, like, have a one. Like, that's a thing.

That's how committed I am. I watch videos like Kim put up a story. of them in the Palm Spring House on Easter of like Kylie and Chloe dancing in the kitchen and I'm like I just saw like us doing that. I'm like that's us. And that's why if you go back that's why you fall in love.

We fell in love from the beginning because there is something relatable about them and they are all about family and they do make you feel like oh my God that's how I am with my sisters. So as rich as they got as extravagant as they got and as sadly you know produced the show has

gotten we remember where it's come from and the root of it and they that the fact that they stayed like a family and so connected and everything just keeps us so again i'll watch them shake the salad i'll watch them you know dip things into things and i'll watch the contrived thing and get annoyed about it but i love them even though like like you said like how unrelatable their lives are at the same time there's a part of them that's always relatable that you can relate to somehow and And I just love them. Okay, we need to talk about the Chloe photo.

Oh, God. Clow Photo Gate. First of all, when I first saw this photo, I saw a photo of a bang-in-bodied Clow with a face of Chloe that we all know and love like BB Chloe. And I saw it somewhere. I reposted it to my story. I didn't even make such a big deal about it. I was just like, oh, she didn't filter this pick so much, you know? the internet went wild berserkers like crazy about it and allegedly said that the grandma

shared it to her Instagram and we know that it's taken over this weekend because she shared her Easter nails and the Eastern nails were in that pick but I tried to search Instagram for the grandma and like you can find an MJ Shannon but like I don't know how you would know it it's her because there are no posts or like photo in the profile and I don't know anybody personally that saw that photo being posted to that account. Do you get what I'm saying? Yeah. So no one knows how it was birthed. But then what was wild that everyone was reposting it and starting to say that they were getting messaged either by someone that works for KKW or Tracy Rommelis who works with Kim. Reddit threaders were being taken down legit. I even had one of my

followers who she's like verified on Instagram. She actually did a body like positive post for about that post and she sent me that she got a TikTok violation and it says who it is from. It's like Tim at KKW brands. So A, like it's so interesting that Kim's team is on this. Second of all, it's like it's become so wild

that it's called the Streisand effect where like the more you're going to try to censor something, the more people will see it. Of course. And like I haven't seen people. If you're going to great lengths to reach out to every single person that posted this picture and like

threaten them and like of course it's going to get more attention and people are going to be like, why the fuck are you this upset over a photo a natural beautiful photo that was posted. I swear I'm not being PC she legit looks great in the photo. I'm not trying to

be cute. I'm not trying to she legit looks great in the photo. Her body looks bang in okay still an unattainable body okay. Her face looks like old cute Chloe is just not fucking photoshopped airbrush And now I'm just, because if you remember the Kim beach photos when she was with Steph Shep and her butt came out very large and like she was so upset.

It was on the show and she was like, oh my God, I'm going to remove every. So then she was legit. I remember just talking about removing every tag. And how did that, which was an unflattering photo, okay? That was an unflattering shot of her ass, okay? Nobody was talking about it for five days. No, but, but Chloe's picture, A, is a good picture. it's just not edited to the point of having no nose.

Chloe's picture is a real picture. It does not like I just feel like it's so crazy that they feel like they need to take such measures to take this picture down, to threaten every account that put it out there when it's just an unedited photo. They're making it sound like it's the insides of her vagina. Right.

Or like a sex tape. What I would love is for Chloe. Chloe, to put up the picture and be like, this is me. Like, people would love that. People would clap. People like, are you joking? It's so refreshing. No, but it's not even a hashtag brave thing because she looks amazing.

I know, I know, but you're so used to see. Do you want to compare it to her other bikini posts that are so filtered and so edited? It doesn't even look like a real body. So it's so nice to see it looking. But it's not even like, oh, here's a fold. No, I know. It's literally still an amazing body. and she's still look at something is so wild you guys that I cannot wrap my head around why

the hell they want this scrubbed off why and they're calling it an IP violation that's intellectual property violation whose property is it because then they went from saying it's um mj posted it to saying an assistant posted it which like rip to the assistant but i'm just like what but then you know i was asked to make a comment to today.com about the situation and I'll read you guys what I said because when I was writing it and in case they don't include them like my journalist's bank on that

just you know you guys Ariel looks very stressed when we podcast it just doesn't come naturally to her she's sitting like uptight as fuck she's looking at me like she's mad at me like I don't know what's going on Amanda hold on do you even know me is my face ever not in a worried like state of mind I said at the end I'm not going to read to you everything I said. But the end I said, I know a lot of accounts and people are coming for Chloe saying

she could have been empowering women and girls with this unedited photo and she is doing the opposite by causing such a ruckus trying to take it down. But yes, I use the word ruckus. And I said, but I feel bad for Chloe. She has been labeled the ugly and fat sister her whole life and that has obviously caused her such pain and trauma that she is still deeply scarred by it. It's honestly very sad because we're all looking at the picture thinking she looks great, but she obviously doesn't. Wow, Amanda. I'm kind of offended that you didn't read to me your statement. Okay, so I'm not like that. Like my whole family will send every email. They'll send like an Airbnb email and be like, how's this email to this Airbnb host about our, about our how many people we have in our party. Like I'm like, oh, today.com. But no, this was my last thing I answered about the picture and everything. But they asked, like, is there anything else you want to add? And this I feel strongly about because I am. I'm being sent a lot of accounts being like,

Chloe should be proud. And like you said, like, Chloe should. And I'm like, and I'm also never, I'm always in the middle. Not skinny about that. I'm also not the person because I've also seen accounts being like, we did this to her because we bullied her. I'm not there and I'm not there. I'm here in the middle being like she always felt like the ugly duckling in her family

so much so that it obviously scarred her to the point of like that all her photos are so heavily edited that, you know, every photo she posts, it's like it's a running joke. like Chloe's new face like all this shit and then a photo of her looking like what she looks like and literally it's causing more, stirring up more drama than fucking sex

tapes than than anything. Then like Jordan with Tristan it's stirring up more drama. Wild you guys. Wild like I this is one of the things. This is kind of like an HB2 situation that if I keep thinking about it my brain is just that brain exploding emoji because I can't fathom a situation in which And again, like, let's say Ariel and I will take a picture, right?

And I'm like, she'll look at herself and she'll be like, wait, how did I come out? Is my arm fat? Is my arm skinny? And I'll look at myself. So not always can you see what somebody else sees in themselves. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like, you're not looking at me.

You're looking at you. I'm the one that's going to notice my double chin and my whatever. So in my eyes, the photo is gorgeous and I don't get it. And I'm brain explosion emoji. But we have to try to understand that in Chloe's eyes, and I don't. I don't think as much as we can say, you know, with power comes responsibility and with platform comes responsibility, but Chloe doesn't have to post the pick. Like you said, I agree with you. It could be cool. Yes, everyone would be like you go fucking girl. You know what? Everyone would be

you go girl. She said, you guys, I edit my photos. I like to play around with photos. No one needs to be a real Instagram account showing stretch marks and roles. Like not everybody needs to do that. No, of course. And I wasn't saying she should do that. I was just saying instead of going to such great lengths to take the photo down to have it disappear. She can also play it off in a different way where like we wouldn't talk about it so much. Nobody would talk about it if it was just a photo out there. Yes, there would be headlines. Chloe's unedited pictures, but it would go away in a day. It's continuing to make headlines because people are posting that they're getting threat messages from KKW and like Tracy and everybody. And that's what's making headlines.

that they're going like why is it so bad that it an unedited photo got out there like you said it's not a sex tape it's not a scandal it's an unedited photo wild was that mean that they never post unedited photos ever are you kidding so i'm oh my god they're not edited like they're edited themselves it was funny because we did watch that uh andy cohen knew show about reality tv and he interviewed the Kardashians which like corny was so gallant and and said something interesting in it, that reality TV, like, used to be, or he didn't say that, one of the people that were being interviewed said it. Like, reality TV used to be mostly reality, right? Now it's mostly not. You know what I mean? Like, it used to be like the real world. Like, they barely

have contrived situations. Like, now it's like mostly contrived situations. But anyway, that was just a side note. And I wanted to say that Courtney said that she thinks she gets a bad edit. And then Andy was like, wait, don't you review the episodes, like before they go on? And she's like, yeah, but somehow is still. And I'm like, well, Courtney, maybe that's you, babe. Like, maybe that's you. I did have to make a note since we're talking about the Kardashians that, first of all, two weeks ago, Kim was like, take me back to like this beach.

And then she went back. I don't know, but there are more bikini pictures. And with Steph Sheb, and I posted like, oh my God, like bikinis again. And then I put up, uh, I was like, can I follow? someone that's not on vacation, I put up a step shop in a bikini. And then Steph shop literally DMs me and is like

you guys, she said, we love your account. We, you guys. We love your account. Get ready for more like bikini picks. RIP. RIP to me. I think like this is the note we need to end on because like we have dissected

the we. No. Oh my God. You guys. What does we mean who's we? No, I'm like, we, what do you mean who's we her in larry like her fucking boyfriend we the Kardashians we her in wifey Courtney we like literally i tell are ill and she's like ha that's so fine i was like who's we who's we like i was just like on the we i was on the we because the we is the we is the we you know and like at the end of the day i mean that that's just insane to me but i hadn't reposted the photos since that time because I think at the end of the day if I think it's really actually rude that people are reposting it like media all this and stuff because if they're going to that link to

not want it like respect her fucking privacy then yeah if at first it got out and we were like oh my god here it is fine but if they're specifically we know that a person doesn't want that photo out maybe let's not repost it you know I know but it's out like everybody's seen it that's the thing everywhere it's on google like it's like it's like it's like you there's no point of like doing anything about it anymore like we need to figure out a situation because i cannot record with you like this but amanda but i have nowhere to like put my feet on so it's on you oh my god you guys oh my god you guys anyway thank you for listening and do you have anything else to add today i'm really happy to be here my fun fact is

that i'm really happy what's your fun fact oh my god my fun fact is this our yell today has the nicest legs i got fucked in my family and she shows me her thighs as she's sitting on the chair and is like, my God, look at this and there's like a cellulite. And I was like, I stand up and have that. No, Amanda, I was showing you like things that have formed since I've grown. Can you put the microphone in your mouth and stop kicking me? You're right.

Okay. Did you see that Rachel Kirkconnell is, okay, now you're looking at your Apple Watch? Yeah, I have to see like where my steps are at today as I'm sitting here for an hour. Did you see that Rachel Kirkconnell was seen with Matt James? Yeah, yes, she begged for his forgiveness and he forgave. That's what you think happened? That's what I think happened, that maybe he realized that she is a catch and he should go with it. I think that maybe he thinks that she did the work.

She definitely did the work. You think she did the work? I think that like what happened was really, you know, a learning lesson for her. And I'm sure she did some work. And I don't think that he would take her back if she didn't do the work because he was so clear on the show that like she needs to do the work by herself.

Okay, work, work, work, work, work. Okay, you guys, thank you for listening. And we'll speak to... See you next Tuesday. We'll speak soon. We'll talk soon. I'll talk to you guys soon. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode

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