Not Skinny But Not Fat - KRAVIS ENGAGED!! Plus Megan Fox & MGK and MORE SNL w/ Alyssa Amoroso

Episode Date: October 19, 2021

Alyssa Amoroso from Barstool’s Tea w/ Publyssity podcast joins me to discuss the phenomenon that is Tyler Cameron, his bro Matt James and their mutual success (and my issues with his bare ankles and loafers). Alyssa turns the tables and asks me unanswered questions re seeing Kim host SNL, and we discuss Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly’s latest interview w/ British GQ: what side of the steak are we on today? Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Cravis is engaged. I don't know what the grammar is. But, oh, my God, this is so exciting. I have to be honest with you guys. Somebody sent it to me because a friend of a friend was, like, working the florist. So I knew about it before. So I think that's why it took me a bit to like, like, somebody sent it to me. It was like, oh, they're working on the flowers for Cravis engagement is happening right now. And I was like, what? And then legit, I saw photos of

like Courtney and Travis, like walking by the beach at Miramar. And I was like, what, what? Like, they looked like they were in daywear from the far away shots. And I was just like, no, what? This can be true. Also, I didn't want to ruin their moment, even if I believed it, because I was like, they're going to want to post it. I'm not going to post it. Anyway, so I think that's when the news really started breaking and the Kardashians were sharing and everything like that. I was like, yeah, well, I knew better for the morning. But it took me time. It was kind of like the way I digested even like my own engagement because it's so wild. It's so surreal. And then you're like, wait, what? And then I think it really hit me the most when I saw Courtney's

ginorm pear-shaped. Is it a pair of shape or oval-shaped ring? That's like a million dollars. it's gorgeous, but it's a very classic. I feel like we would think that Travis would get her some like black diamond or like skull. But no, it's a very, very gorgeous diamond. Looks like classics that other Hollywood women have had. But this is so exciting. They're so in love. The whole family is there.

Yes, it is being filmed for the Hulu show. We saw cameras. We saw mics. It's so exciting. Who can wait? Who can fucking wait to watch that shit? But a lot of people are now speculating. Like, also she had this like a really long walk to the beach.

Beach. Did she know also like roses, candles in a public setting like this? Like some of us are speculating and I could see that. Then maybe there was a private engagement where Travis proposed to Courtney and this was kind of orchestrated for the show. I wonder because I don't know. I really, really don't know. But it kind of makes sense because you do ask yourself, would Courtney, a person that until now didn't even want to get married and wanted to keep relationships private? I I know. I know Kravis has not been private lately. Oh, and Courtney, who didn't even want to be on the show? Well, she's a stake and she flips. All of a sudden orchestrating an entire proposal, candles, roses, like so chuggy, right? This isn't like a hardcore proposal. It's on the beach. It has candles. It has roses. It's super basic, except they're wearing black and she's wearing black buds. That kills me. I think that for me, it also comes with mixed emotions because it sort of is weird to me to feel like my girl, Courtney, even though she is my sister and it would be incest. is off the market like that's a weird feeling like this is the court we have for now and forever which is like she's so happy so i'm happy but it's also like skull wearing like band sweatshirt

wearing punk rock you know chick whereas like Travis he's going to be like that his whole life you know he's a rolling stone but Courtney like i have to be honest i do miss Courtney's savage style i loved her streetwear and now you know the hoodies are a little much for me Like the, the streetwear isn't like my style inspo anymore, but fuck me. Who cares my fucking street style is an inspo to anyone? And she's so happy. Have we ever in our entire life seen anybody this happy? Like all of us are getting insecure about our marriages because of Cravis.

It is fucking insane. Like I said, the whole family there filming for the Hulu show and so freaking excited. She looks so happy. They literally just got back from New York. She came with him. He was drumming on SNL with Young Thug. And I can't believe they did that. I'm like, aren't you tired?

Like that's, those are thoughts in my head. But you know what? They're not normies like us and maybe they don't get tired. It's so cute and we are so freaking happy for them. And everyone's posting for them and forever isn't enough. And I just see babies. Everyone's like, do you see babies? Of course I see babies.

You think they're not going to have babies? I wouldn't be surprised if she was, you know, they were making a baby now. Like Courtney loves children. She's always wanted a gazillion children and she's found the love of her life, not a baby daddy with a toxic relationship. You think she doesn't want to have his baby? You are wrong. She wants to have more than one.

That's what I think. So I wonder when that is going to happen, when we're going to see that. And you know what? A lot of people feel like it's, they're doing a lot. You know how I like to say do less? I can see your POV. But how about we all just come in unison and realize that these are two people that met in the middle of their lives.

I mean, no, sorry, became romantic in the middle of their lives, have been neighbors and friends forever. and have fell in love so deep, so hard, and are so fucking happy that even if you're not a cravis, number one stand like I am, and you feel like maybe they could wear less black, or maybe, you know, she doesn't have to quote the misfits. And like maybe he doesn't have to hold her ass on the street where it looks like he's like itching her butt crack. Maybe she should have gone to Kim's S&L. All those things, and not just his, all those things are like, you have a point, but let's just be happy for their undying love because it is a beautiful, beautiful

beautiful thing. And I'm just wishing them the biggest congratulations. In court, I'm waiting to know, am I made of honor or just bridesmaid? Flower Girl is cool. Don't we think that evanescent, like, evanescence, I could just see the walking on the aisle, be like, wake me up inside. Wait a minute, tell me what I'm sorry for everybody. Anyway, I'm just so excited that I'm just viewing things left and right. I'm just so excited, you guys. Kravis, we shipped them from Day fucking one, you guys. We're the true fans. We're the real ones.

And we're just wishing them a lifetime of happiness. And we can't wait to see their punk rock wedding. Uh, court is engaged. This is a fucking monumental moment. This is our Super Bowl. Oh my God. Let's get into this week's episode. Okay, you guys, I am here today with my friend and fellow podcaster, Alyssa Amoroso.

Amoroso. Yes, you said it correct. Okay. We did like a podcast. When was our first podcast together? What? Like 2000. It was when. It was before Matt James was bachelor. No, what do you mean? Babe, it was when, it was when Hannah B's season of the Bachelorette probably like ended. So when was that? Hannah B's. I mean, I feel like, I want to say it was like a freaking year before the pandemic. So is this like three years ago? No. When was she the Bachelorette? Season 15. 2019. Oh my God.

So that's two years ago, two plus years ago. We did our first podcast together and it was funny for a few reasons. One is like you were at my house. Oh my God. And I was just listening to your pod with Jared and you were saying the same thing. Isn't it crazy we used to do that? Oh my God. Don't say on here that I repeat shit.

No, no. But my point is like we all used to go in person, which is so weird to think now that we used to like. It's so weird to think. It's like, hey, but like, okay if you know the person, but like we were strange. Like I don't even know if we were like following each other at the time. It was just like, oh, you have a podcast. I have a podcast.

Let's podcast. This was like the beginning. Now if I like don't know somebody, I like don't want them on my podcast. Then it was like I was just a horror of like podcasting. And you came over to my house, which is so cute. And we podcasted and we had so much fun and we definitely vived. And the funniest thing, which I'll always remember, I feel like it's going to be 20 years from now. And I'll repeat it.

But it's like we were both just like. well, I was hating on Tyler, see, for those who followed me then and followed along. And I still am like a stake about him because he is really hot, but like I don't get why he's getting all these nice things, you know? Because he's hot. Why are you? Because he's literally why. He's literally like living life.

He's like, just went on Kim's first S&L. I'm like, call her Kim Kardashian West. Like, name her by her full fucking name. Yeah. But anyway, he was getting all these nice things. He got Gigi Hadid. We were fucking spinning. He was hanging with Serena Williams.

He was at Oma's fucking funeral. We were like... Wow. Yeah, those were the days. I mean, we were like, how did he get this? This was before... This was like, I feel like the beginning of when Bachelor people started being like famous in a different way than they were before.

He was like spotted outside Hannah B's. house, but it like kind of seemed like a set up photo shoot, right? It's because he's not just like hunky guy hot. He's universally attractive. And do you want to know the best thing ever? My mom, my sister and I joke were like, my mom is like a horn dog for Tyler C. Also like happily married, like 40 years. I thought she was a horn dog for Pilot P.

Oh, him too, probably. Not as much anymore. Tyler C. She'll, it's like word vomit. Like she sees him and she's like, um, he is. something. I'm like, chill out, you freak. Like, keep it in your pants. She thinks Tyler C is like the hottest thing ever. And I have a question, do you think, okay, do you think him being on the bachelor has made him like cheesy hot because he has the bachelor associated to him? Like,

if he came up in Hollywood the way like Brad Pitt did, we would be like, oh my God, he's a movie star. But because the bachelor will forever be attached to his name, I feel like it's embarrassing for people to be like, I love Tyler C. Do you get what I'm saying? Well, I think that he's embarrassing because all of his grid is shirtless photos. Yeah. And like, if you, if I am single right now and I'm on Raya because that's where I would be, obviously.

And I saw Tyler C. And I was like, oh, let me go check out his Instagram because I don't know him. And it would be like the whole 10, like. photos that you would see first, I would see abs. I wouldn't say yes. It's like I'd say yes maybe to like, are you up? But I wouldn't say yes to a date because like I don't want that. Nobody wants that. You want to date somebody that I want to, if I go to an Instagram profile of someone I just met in a dating app, I want to see nine photos total. I want to see your last one posted in 2017. And I want to see one of your niece, one of your daughter. And I want to see one of your

and like one of you. Like you want to hike. Exactly. I was going to say in Europe where they're traveling. I do not want to see like open Tyler sees Alyssa. I'm really curious now. Like I looked the other day. Like it's all shortless.

Like we get it. You have 1,000 abs. You are very hot. Like you said universally, I love that saying because I also say it like that. Why do we say it like that? Because there are a lot of hot guys, guys that you would find attractive,

guys that I would find attractive, guys that your mom would find attractive, guys that people have different tastes than men but there's someone that's like you can't say like no exactly like that's Tyler C yes like everyone's going to think he's hot but apropos Brad Pitt would Brad Pitt wear pants that reach above his ankles loafers that look like he's a really small size and shoes and a jacket that is busting at the seams I don't know why but I love that you were stuck on his ankle showing it's my favorite like no one gets me it's one of those things things like mostly my followers get me, but there are some things that they're not in my

like vibe. And I feel like nobody was like, oh my God, his ankles. Like nobody. Like, it's me alone. You're on an island. You're like these fucking ankles. If I see them one more time. It's like, nobody gets it. But I'm like, you know what, but you guys, well, I don't want to like, you know, throw it in anyone's face. But like, I was at S&L. I saw the ankles. You guys didn't see the ankles. But if you need to see the ankles, go back to the season because his whole, wardrobe, her whole, his whole wardrobe, I wonder like if his style, you know how Kim gets fitted for her body and it's like all very form fitting? Like even her S&L outfits were like Kim Kay outfits. Yeah. Like they were all the form fitting. I wonder if Tyler sees like, does he have pants that reach the shoes and does he have shoes that aren't loafers? He even has, you know how a loafer has the tassel? He has the tassel loafers. Wait, you know what?

I think there should be an Instagram account called Tyler C's ankles. And it's like his angled in different settings, like where they're just like a few inches are showing. It would have one follower and it would be me. And I would be a hate follower. But there's freaky feet people out there. And like I feel like he could probably make money off these ankles somehow. He needs to monetize. I'm telling you, he has small feet and he just needs to like resize.

Wait, he has small feet. I don't know. I feel like the loafers without the socks make them look small. Okay, I have a thing about loafers and flats in general. They've always reminded me of like hooves, like animal hooves. Like when you just have, you can't have this big body with these big muscles with these like little like little shoes. Do you know what I'm talking about? I get insecure.

Like let's say I'm wearing a, like, I don't know how Kim does it because she has like an hourglass shape that's like beautiful. And she'll wear like tight, tight, tight, tight, tight, tight, tight. And then, like, little, beanie shoes. I get, like, weirdly, like, I'll feel weird about it. Like, I feel like I need, like, a chunky shoe to, like, balance my body out. That's exactly what I'm saying. So the people that wear these, like, little tiny shoes, I'm like, you are a reindeer. And, like, these need to go.

Like, those little, like, legs, I can't do it. Yeah. He has some stuff to work on, you know, the distance between the eyebrows bugs me. We go, we go nitty-gritty for Tyler C., but he is universally. I was just going to say, is he stunning? Because I know somebody

that was like on a date with him and she said like, no, he's not like, he's not a man of, you know, he's like, yeah.

Like, I feel like maybe his personality shines with like Matt. He's a jock. He's a jock. He played football at Wake Forest. He's like every guy we know. He's really trying though to be in the industry.

Like he's going to be on this like dancing show on Fox like where they're recreating. dirty dancing or something that no one asked for. Might I say, though, I think he could have played it a little better in terms of he had so much clout when he first came off and he was dating Gigi Hadid and there was like rumors he was going to model for Calvin Klein and this and that. He should have gotten, he should have starred in a movie two years ago.

Like I think he almost now is coming too convoluted by doing these like little like dancing shows and that like home improvement show that like didn't go anywhere on peacock or whatever. I think... No, it was Quibi. Oh, Quibi. Yeah. They're all the same to me.

Like those... No, because I think Quibi is not a thing anymore. Yeah. Well, that's my... It's even called Quibi. But that's my point. Like, he was doing too many little things where I think he should have done the Addison Ray and just like gone from like mega influencer height of their career to another

mega thing. Like how she's kind of just like riding this wave. She's in movie. She's singing. He almost now is like taking a step down, I feel. You have a really good, like he's lost momentum, maybe. Like he, like, he should have went. But I do think, I get what you're saying, and I love the deep, the deep analysis here.

But I do always say, and I feel like it still stands true, that specifically Tyler C and Matt, played the game of Bachelor Nation better than anyone. Because I have this feeling that they have good connections from even before. So even when they were bed bunking, I'm going to say bud banking. Even when they were bed bunking and like sleeping together and showering together and not making money and like living on the Upper West Side and like I said, sharing a room, I think they had good connects in the city. Do you know what I mean?

Like new people who knew people. So I think that's how Matt's going to, you know, the same fucking events, Travis and MGKMF are going to. And I feel like Tyler has that vibe too. like he has opportunities you know he's not doing you know only revolve around the world like he's doing other things yeah and because they're they're nice people i think honestly i think they're just nice guys yeah i do just from like and they look really good just from knowing them

yeah like knowing people that know them and like i just think they're nice down-to-earth people but yeah it is interesting okay but that's just also the publicist in me like i look at them and i'm like, how would I play this if I was there publicist? And, like, I maybe would do a few things differently. But I do agree, like, they have this momentum. Like, Matt James was on Dancing with the Stars and he never was even on a Bachelor show previous to being The Bachelor. Like, he really.

Wait, let's say, though, that he got kicked off, which is very surprising. Because he got the moves from TikTok. Apparently, you guys can look into this. People are kind of mad. People are feeling like it was on the technicality. Because of the Chris Harrison thing? No, no, no, no. that he got kicked off of dancing with the stars due to like a technicality like something didn't

make sense it was kind of like down to like a judge's vote i don't watch dancing so i don't know the intricacies of like the judging system but some people were very mad and yeah i wish he would have gone further but the thing is with them is like i feel like on one hand they are enjoying the fruits of their loins that are the bat that is the batch of franchise that doesn't make sense but they're not But at the same time, and I've even gotten this, like, confirmed by a insider, but at the same time, they don't want to be associated with it. Like, they wouldn't want to come on a Bachelor in Paradise came a la Dean and Kalin and, like, introduce, like, a dating, you know, dating card. Like, they would be like, ew, disgusting, like never. But they want to enjoy the cool stuff, like the really, really, really cool stuff that you can do.

but they don't want to, like, be, like, associated. But they want, like, he got the SNL gig, Tyler. Which is huge. Matt got dancing with the stars. Like, yeah, it's huge because he was the only, like, bachelor. Other than that, they were all huge stars, you know? It's huge. It's fucking huge.

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So I heard, and I don't know if this is true, like I don't even know where I get this shit from, but I heard that Matt James likely wasn't going to make it far in Dancing with the Stars because it's on ABC. And a lot of people that are upset Chris Harrison got fired or was removed or chose to leave, whatever it may be. A lot of people blame Rachel and him for that situation for Chris Harrison no longer being the host.

So again, I don't know if this is true, but people, I was hearing that he's kind of like getting backlash of people not wanting to support him, which is interesting. Like, I think people look at his season as the season that ruined things for them. Well, I think at the end of the day, like, Rachel is doing fine. And she's a doll. I met her.

She's sweetest pie. You met her, too. Yeah. He's also, like, so fucking gorgeous. So pretty. It hurts. Like, it's really annoying. And then she's so sweet.

Yeah. And you're like, fuck you. No, 100%. But, you know, and I don't know. I want, I hope not because, you know, she apologized. I think the one of the nicest apologies we've seen. True. It was very well written.

And then she did the work. And they're back together and they're in love, you know. and they seem very, very happy. I secretly hope, like, that he's treating her right because I'm like, I can tell how in love with him she is, even when I met her and I was like, how is it going? Like, you could just tell, like, she's in love with his bunions, you know? Like, she's in love with the, like, literally. And I know that kind of love.

That's like when you first meet somebody, you don't smell their morning breath. You don't see that their beard is disgusting. Like, you love their bunions, like that kind of love. So I hope that that he, like, treats her well because I don't know. on his side like how I what I remember is him you know from the season and then seeing her after the whole scandal and him not even being able to hug her he was so like hurt by her yeah it's hard to get a read on him like how it's hard to get a read on right yeah because that's the other thing like who are you are you against batination are you yeah to it are you a hater are you a lover

like are you know it always kills me over and over that Andy Cohen when he's had Tyler and Matt on, which, by the way, is another thing. I don't know which bachelor nation people are going on, watch what happens live. Andy asked both of them separately, just casually. He'd be like on one question. And then he moved on and be like, so Matt, did you and Tyler ever blow each other? Okay. I have feelings about this.

And they were both like, which like is fine that they answered this way, but they were like, no. Okay, but I just, and not, I love Andy Cohen. but I just think if it was someone else asking someone these questions, he would be canceled. And I noticed he's doing it. He did it to like Tom Schwartz and Sandoval two reasons. He did to someone else recently too. Maybe it was like Carl and Louvre.

And like the thing is like it does it turn him on? Like is he trying to get? I think he's turned. I think he's into it because he's in his head. It's like his ultimate fantasy to see like Matt James and Tyler getting it on. Oh my God. But if that was another like male host and asked women, And I'm just always so surprised when he asked those things and there's no.

That's so true, Alyssa, I love loving like Afer analysis because it's so true. And I've heard about Andy. I've met him once and he wasn't so nice to me. And I didn't assume. I didn't think he was going to be like, hi. Like I didn't. I think that I knew the vibe going into it. So I wasn't super surprised that he wasn't as excited to meet me as I was to meet him.

But then I have also heard from different Bravo, you know, women that maybe he's not as nice to the women as he is to the men on the shows. And then you see questions like this and how into it he is. And it's like, it throws you off because it's so vulgar, right? To just be like, boom. Like did you give a blowjob? And you're like, whoa, what? We watched pretty spheres documentaries of men asking her, oh, did you? Did you lose your virginity?

And it's like now we're watching it back 20 years later being like, how dare they ask her that? But then Andy Cohen current day is like, do you blow each other? And everyone's like, oh, it's so funny. Which, again, I'm like not in the business of like getting anyone in trouble. But I just watch these things and I notice. I'm like, this is so weird that like no one else thinks this is like a little bit inappropriate. Yeah.

And I think that he gets away with a lot. Not in terms of I don't even like the word cancel. me either that's not where we're getting at it's just like I think he gets away with a lot and like I would honestly be scared to be a castmate of any show because of like would he like would he be nice to me and you could always tell who his favorites are like who he's like shut up Kristen you know or like enough of you like I feel like you could he was always mean to jacks kind of like you could always mean to yeah and jacks I think even could tell and what was the last reunion that I watched with him that was also like he was off-putting to someone. But listen, I don't know. I just know that even

if they did blow each other, they probably wouldn't tell it to Andy. They were on one to be like, listen, we experimented. Like, they're not going to open this up right now. But also, like, are you not allowed to be too hot best friends without being sexually attracted to each other? Maybe you're, I mean, listen, they might be sexually attracted to each other. But maybe they're also just hot friends. Hot friends that like TikTok together and like, do like the roll and shit. No, do you know what it is? They know they're hot.

So they know they're hot. Sex cells. And it's like thousands of abs in like one frame and you're like, who do I look at? And they look so good together. Yeah. And it's like, myler. And it's like, it's a romance, babe. It's a fucking bromant.

How are we still in Matt James? Oh, because I wanted to get to it. So Alyssa and I, this won't be funny anymore to anybody, but I have to repeat it every time we podcast together. Every time. This is when Tyler C was, you know, taking over the world with G. Omah's funeral, the whole shindig. And Alyssa and I were talking about Mad James. And then Alyssa said, one of the funniest things that stays in my head forever, it's like,

she's like, do you know what I've been thinking? And I was like, what? And she goes, we couldn't get Tyler seeing the podcast, but we could probably get Mad James. And I, like, fucking peed my pants about it. And listen, we could, we couldn't get Mad James. Like, we might not be able to get. Not anymore. We missed the boat.

And then you saw him, remember you saw him on like a bike? Like city biking. You were like, this is how into it we were, you guys. And this was before Matt James was like a thing. This was before he was the bachelor. Yeah. Roommate. That's it.

So we kind of, I mean, could we give us some credit? As you guys know, I like take credit out of shit I don't deserve is like, could we take any credit here of noticing the potential and how big of a part he has like in Tyler's life and. We call it here. Cloud Farm. which I think actually Harry Jousey made up. But it's when you like clout farm off of someone else's clout.

So like, for example, Tyler had all the clout, but we knew who Matt James was because he was in every single video. It's when you like kind of become notable for being friends with someone notable. And Matt James was just like reaping all the benefits of his friend dating Gigi Hadid. And we and I were like, he's like we knew. We had the foresight to know this guy's going to be known. No, because it was also wild as like there was so much personality, you know, which we didn't get to see on The Bachelor and that was also shining through and made us think that like not that he is probably clout farming because he wanted to be in those videos. He wasn't like, no, don't film me.

He was like in the back and like in the bunk and like, you know, all the shit that we were like, wait, oh, you're reminding me. I feel like that's essentially why he was a. robbing me the wrong way at the time because it did really seem like you're trying to ride this like wave of your friend's success, which went for him. And I feel like now that he has his success, he's kind of like standoffish in the way of like, I'm really cool. Here I am at the UFC like with my crocs and fucking. Wait. I'm making that up. He so wasn't. He was with crocs at Nobu. Sorry. He does wear crocs at Nobu at Nobu Malibu. Yeah. You guys. Oh, give me a freaking bellini.

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I want to ask you something and like you might not answer it because I haven't seen you talk about this and like I'm dying to know. And if I'm dying to know, I think your audience is dying to know. Oh my God. What? Did Kim invite you to S&L? Like you didn't say how. Everyone is dying to know.

And it just makes me not want to share it because it's like, can't I have something to myself? Like, do I need to fucking open my primary box DMs to all of you? Like, everyone wants to fucking know. But, but like, can people like, like, can people like add one and one together? I am, Commander. I am in the fam. Add one in one. And no, I won tickets on the fucking street that day.

Now I'm annoyed. Kim DM'd me and said that she's so excited that I'm going to be there and quote we have to meet after so for all you thirsty bitches she did say that also you looked beautiful like your outfit like I was like even my sister who follows you was like Amanda killed it with the look for Saturday Night Live it was like it was like a perfect amount of trying but not too much right and it was my first it was my first try on because, like, so unlike me, like, that morning, Noah's first nap, which was, like, at nine, I, like, tried the shit on, which is so unlike me.

And this was my first idea. And then, like, everyone I showed it to was, like, no, that's perfect. And I was like, okay, then I'm just going to go with it. And, like, the chic hair back. Like, it was just perfect. Because I know if that was me, I'd be freaking out. I'd be like, what am I wearing? What if I meet Chris?

Like, you get in your head with that stuff, like you're saying. You get in your head because you don't know. Like, anyway, so my sister Arielle came with me. There was a lot of family dramas who's going. going to come with me. I was almost like, fuck this whole fucking shit. But our kind of point of reference was that I saw Carly Clause there because she's like a thousand feet tall. So I was like, wherever Carly Clause goes, like I know that she's important and she's probably sitting somewhere important. Then I saw that she was like in my section. I was like, what does that mean?

Still don't know. Then we get in the hall, which isn't so big. And then Arielle saw Carly Clause's head. And she saw that between Carly Clause and the next person, there were five. empty seats that were like middle like yeah and we were like okay the fam's there at one hondo and then we saw scott which was so wild because like everyone with masks scott and jonathan uh walk in without masks oh my god it was so funny because this guy was sitting next to us this is what you guys are going to love so then i see step shop walking in and tracy and like with both of them i'm super friendly then we see simon corey conier and then chris and chloe weren't there so immediately we assume that they're either going to be on the show or they're backstage so this guy

guy was sitting next to us and he hears me and Ariel being like, there's Corey, there's Simon, there's this. And like, there's Tracy and there's Sefshap. And he's like, into it. He's like, oh my God, you guys know everything. Like, let me know. Like, who's who? No, but listen to this. He's like, keep me posted. And then all of a sudden, like, Tracy sees me and she like

waves to me and then Sefshap sees me and waves to me. And the guys and the guy's like, who are you? Wait, what? Yeah, who are you? Like, wait, you're the fan girl and you know them. And that was like the perfect kind of like moment of like, kind of what my life is like I'll always be a fan girl you know what I mean I'll never lose that and no matter like who I know or like where this life will take me it's like I'm and it was just so

funny seeing his face like wait it you were just like yeah he's like but you know all those people you've been like excited to see I'm so confused right and it was that moment where I was up where I was like oh my god this shit is so confusing and I don't know it just feels weird to like I also feel like when you talk about people's like DMs and even though they're famous and stuff like yeah you want to keep their privacy like it feels invasive you know what I mean totally but I don't think it's unprivate to say what I said no oh my god no because it's all like you I knew you got invited through her somehow but I think as someone that like is I think people just because I consume your content even though we're friends like people are excited for you because like

your dreams are like we're watching them happen so everyone's just like wait what that? Like, how? I think that's why people want to know. Not because people are nosy, but it's just like, this actually happened for her. It's like pretty crazy. I get it. People, that's a thing. Like, I agree with you. It's from when I called you guys thirsty bitches. I mean, in the most loving way, the happiness. Like my mom commented in Hebrew on my pick, which is like so cute, but you guys won't understand it. She wrote like, oh my God, Amanda. It's so exciting to see how people are so happy for you. That's so sweet. Because, like, she saw because we couldn't have our phones on inside.

So I, like, legit. Okay, listen to how fucking gross I am. The only thing I knew for sure about this night is that I'm posting a fucking picture under the NBC sign before I go in. I was like, I told my sister, I was like, there's one thing I know about tonight. I don't know where I'm sitting. I don't know what I'm doing. I know what it's going to be. I know I'm posting that fucking picture to let people know.

And then we went in. And then I saw my mom's comment in Hebrew. and it just said that it makes her emotional like how how people are so happy for you that don't even fucking know you and that really makes me emotional

so you guys deserve to know the whole fucking story here I am interviewing you mysterious it's like I want to be that mysterious I want to be like Dakota Johnson that doesn't have an Instagram but here I am

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hi to him because he's friends with my friend's dad don't ask so i was just like oh like hi john something, like I'm friends with so-and-so, and he was like, oh, my God. So it felt like a good thing to connect on when you know mutual people. And I never go up to anyone. Like, I'm just not that way, but he's very approachable for whatever reason. So fast forward, like a year later. And I'm in Miami. And I'm sitting down. And of course, he gets seated at the table next to me. And he's staring at me. And I'm like, oh, my God, do you think he remembers me? Also, keep in mind. I'm so not that person. Like, I'm like, I can meet you 15 times and I don't expect you to remember me because

I don't remember you. Like, I'm just one of those people who I don't remember faces. But the way he was staring at me, I'm like, he is staring at me. So finally, I look at my friend and I'm drunk at this point. And I'm like, like, food God keeps staring at me. Like, should I say something? And she goes, oh, no, I think he caught me taking a picture of him. It was my friend.

behind me with her phone up zooming and I was like are you kidding me that is so embarrassing put your phone down I am mortified like here I am being like big-headed being like Jonathan's like staring at me oh my god how embarrassing is you're like stop embarrassing me he secretly remembers me he's just too shy to say hi and like yeah he was looking at me because we were taking pictures of him he looks way like he looks way like less because I feel like we we start to think of people as their like characters. So like when I think of him, I think of like Benny Drama's like imitation of him. Yeah. Which is all like plumped up. And like all of a sudden I saw his face and I was like, oh, like you look normal. And Scott did look sad.

And then I secretly was like, oh my God, Scott hates me. Like that's when you get in your head that like he cares. You know? Yeah. Yeah. Oh my God. Scott hates me. That's so true though. But Scott could hate me by the way. this is not far-fetched people. I'm deep in. Commanda is deep inside and he could hate me. He totally could actually because we didn't think it was possible that celebrities were seeing your stories and now all of them. Like, you just don't freaking know anymore. You don't freaking know. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if he did. But okay, I want to move on to, you know, the couple of the week that they're kind of, you know, defeating Kravis in the most talked about couple, MGKMF, Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly, also known as Colson Baker.

They had a GQ, a British GQ interview where all the memeable things came out of, which is you are weed and we just breathed each other's breath and walked away. And all these fucking things that we were like, whoa, chicky, chicky, chicky, whoa. Do you, okay, first of all, I feel like this week with celebrities, everyone's just off their rocker between Demi Lovato and the alien thing and MGK and Megan Fox with this and then Courtney and Travis with the I want to suck your skull or whatever it's like is everyone on shrooms this I'm so confused I feel like we're living in like the vampire diaries but like IRL I'm very thrown off well the skull thing is from the misfits a song by the

misfits. So, like, they are quoting punk lyrics. That's a little better. But I put this up after and I was like, I don't fucking know the misfits. I listen to Britney Spears. Yeah. Okay. I'm not quoting, you know, anything. And neither is Courtney, but now she is. I also put up today before we get back to MGMF is that Courtney is the queen of Halloween. She loves Halloween. We're different in that way. I don't. And she put up a Travis tattoo that we didn't. know about, which is like the killer from Halloween. Like he has Mike from Halloween's face on his body. I actually responded to her story and I was like, oh my God, no.

And she was like, I forgot about it. And I was like, it's easy to forget which tattoos he has because he hasn't. Yeah, that's the other thing. I was telling people, like people get so, you know, overly emotional about tattoos. Like, how did he get that? Oh, my God. He got Courtney's name. And oh, my God.

And I was trying to explain today. my story's like as somebody I have like five tattoos and when I was into getting tattoos like you would legit be like hey Amanda am Alyssa and I'd be like Alyssa that would be cool as a tattoo like you're just waiting for like what to get tattooed you're like I'm into flowers exactly so Travis is literally like of course he's going to get Courtney tattooed if he didn't get her by now I would be offended as Courtney and if he likes Halloween and he likes the movie Halloween he's getting it tattooed that's so true so that's just for people to know, but so Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly, I was, I call myself a steak because I flip and

I've gone backside, front side, back again, front again with this couple. And I think I'm, this is so funny. When I read the interview, I was like, ugh, enough. But then when I saw the interview and the couple game that they played and I saw that mostly everything was said in this like playful, humorous kind of way and that they, like, they, like, they, they know each other better than I know my husband. I'm with my husband for 11 years. If you ask my husband all this shit, like I feel like he would fail, which is something I need to think about. But they asked each other such deep shit. And like, unlike Kylie and Travis Scott's where it was like, what are your dog's names? And he didn't even fucking know it. He doesn't even

know. He was like, it was wild. But you could also see their moments. Like she asked him, Well, he asked, she asked him what pet do you look most like? And he, what was it called? It mustrat or whatever. What's it called again? I forget. I think it's like, me rat. I forgot.

Why are we stupid? What's it called? But he does look like whatever that thing is. And he was like, no, no, no. Yes, the mirror cat. And he was like, no, no, no. And just like, da, da, like they had that moment that like when a couple, like, he knew what she was going to say.

Yeah. I do think the video gave it better content. I have to say. But we were having a discussion at my office yesterday, which is funny because I work with all guys. So to hear their opinion, like, is completely different. And basically, we were having an argument with, do we think the public is flipping on Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox? And I'm leaning towards, yes, I think people are starting to flip a little bit. Whereas in the beginning, it was like, I can't get enough. Like, they're so hot. And now, it's kind of like we know like you love blood and like you love talking about spirits and I think

now the it is they're having a little bit of like a fall from grace in the sense that people are like this is a little weird for my liking because it's so outside of like what traditional relationships look like in the media so like they're kind of just like doing their own thing and it's weird for people I think but whatever did you see the video by the comedian Chris Fleming about them. Did you watch it? No. Oh my God. This is exactly what you're saying, but he's really, really funny.

And the way he put it, which... But he's not a boring fuckface. No, he... He doesn't sound. No, he's like, no. The way he put it, you guys, he said, things that he said in this IGTV about Megan Fox and Machine Gun Kelly, he was basically saying that he feels like the media is trying to barrel them down our throats as like the id couple and that we're like yeah no stop so i'll

send you the video after but he really gave such good examples he said he said the he said it's like when you try to get your uncharming a pet to take off on instagram and it's like an ugly mixed dog like in a bar like you put him in a bar in a bad portrait mode and you're like classic duncan and like Duncan isn't cute and like the pet Instagram isn't going to work. And then he also said like that the media tried so hard to get you to like Google machine gun Kelly get his history. And he's like, I apt it out of Googling. I couldn't be less inclined to do the work.

He said machine gun Kelly is like a Microsoft product. And this explains it better. He said it's like when there's a movie and in the movie there's a celebrity that's like fake. Do you know what I mean? Like a movie created a celebrity and that celebrity doesn't like seem real that MGK would be that like movie celebrity that is an IRL. And he just said that he takes the things like turtles take to lettuce, but this ain't it. Wow.

So I was getting how he feels and a lot of people agreed. This is a video by Chris Fleming. He's a funny comedian. But I will say that I could see it. And there is truth in many things. But also I, when I saw the video, and listen, at the end of the day, I love being a cynic and I love being sarcastic and making fun of shit. But when I see love and I see two people that do get each other and their weirdnesses and their quirks and yeah, they are different. Like, I couldn't probably be friends with Megan Fox if, like, her favorite place on earth to visit is the forest.

Like, we're not in the same vibe, you know? Like, I want to go to a five-star all-inclusive resort, you know? 100%, like wine and dine me. Yeah, when she's like, she's Megan Fox and she's being like the forest. But, okay,

this is what I'm realizing as we're discussing this. It's just like how media works in general. We build people on these pedestals and once they're so famous, we're like, they're too famous now. I'm going to tear them down.

Oh my God, that's so true. That's literally what happens. They were so, like we saw a little piece of them, And we're like, we want more and more and more. So then we get more. And now we're like, now Megan Fox has a collaboration with boo-hoo and this and that.

And then she's in skims ad. And now it's like she went from being out of the spotlight for 10 years to now she's so in the spotlight that we're like, you're too famous now. I'm over you. Well, maybe. But Alyssa, that's a great point. But maybe, as I like to say, maybe they need to do less. Like do, by all means do, but a little less.

If you're a celebrity, though, and you're getting all of these opportunities. you're also going to... I wouldn't take boo-hoo. I wouldn't take boo-hoo. She's above boo-hoo. But what if it's a multimillion-dollar collaboration? Then that's different. But I feel like...

Yeah, they are. First of all, I'm a... Maybe I'm a dumb bitch and I'm not going to be Kylie ever in my life because her Freddie Kruger collab is like, I can't stop screaming, crying, laughing about it. But she don't give a fuck. She'll do a Freddie Kruger.

She'll do whatever the fuck. Whereas I'm going to not be rich because I'm going to be like, it's not going to work for my brand. And like, she doesn't care. She'll do a, she'll do a, she'll cover herself in blood. Did you see the TikTok's exposing Kylie Swim? I know you're not on TikTok, but I'm sure you've seen them on reels. I saw, I saw them.

I mean, listen, did it, was I going to buy it or did I hope for a PR box anyway? No, nothing looked like they would even fit me. If I want a nipple cover, maybe. Who, like, only Instagram models and like, her friends, like Stasi Baby, like, could wear that. Like, who's wearing that? It's for, like, surgically enhanced bodies. A hundred percent. Like, you have to have fake boobs to wear that. And also, what's the, like, what's the up costs on this? Like, how much money? Like, is it worth it? Like, you're a billionaire and I get it. You want to invest in more brands. You

have to have more brands. But, like, was this a necessary one? It's also winter. Yeah. I'm also, the whole thing was confusing. the timing, the quality. I feel like we're riding this wave of body positivity and inclusivity and like that wasn't there. Like I just feel like it was all amiss. And then Kylie Baby came out two days later, right? Yeah, it felt rushed. I don't know.

Something about the swim really was probably the one thing I could say that she's done that really missed the mark on like a lot of fronts. I think Chloe should come out with a size inclusivity, like flattering bathing. suit line under Good American. I think that's like an amazing extension of her brand. Kylie, I don't think we really like needed swimwear from her that like give us frontal wedgies. It's so funny though because when she would talk about it, it's like I could live in swimwear. Like that's how you're going to sell it. No, nobody could live in these. Like you are popping out of these. We have roles. Also like you have to see, I'm going to send you on. You have to see the TikToks of people

talking about, like, trying to fit their vagina in the front swimwear. People talk about, like... Wait, they talk about it or they show it. No, they talk about it. They're like, like, my whatever could never. And they go on and on talking about. And then the comments are just, like, out of control. People talking about, like, how do you wax?

How do you shave? Like, how do you fit, how do women fit into these, like, frontal thongs that she's putting out there? Frontal thongs. It's so good. So do we equate, so okay, let's not equate Kylie Swim and Kylie Freddie Krueger collab to Megan Fox and Boohoo. I'm just saying boo-hoo is more of a like,

you know, Bachelor Nation. Yeah. I feel like she's so hot right now, Megan Fox. And it's like, and it's like, right, you're saying, it's all the things. So I feel like I don't want to blame us as a society because, yes, we get into things. So we want it.

We want more. But it's like when you start dating someone, you also want them to be hard to get and not give you everything, you know, all the time. Like we want to want to want more. We want to wait for that couple pick. We don't want to know that you had sex on the table yesterday or like all this shit. So it's maybe too much. This is the thing. Couples like Benefer, which are a whole different playing field.

This is how I feel about celebrity couples. Again, I'm a former publicist. So everything I think through is like through this publicist's mind. But they are being paparazzied and seen because they want to be seen and they're putting it out there. Like, we don't see Taylor Swift and her boyfriend who've been dating for five, 10 years, however long, not 10, five years. We don't see Joe Jonas and Sophie Turner. Like, we are seeing Jen and Ben and Megan Fox and whatever, Colson, because they're wanting to be seen and their teams are making this happen. You know, like it is very.

Yeah. It is in our face because they're, like, putting it in our face. Yeah. Like, yeah, 100%. What side of the stake are you on? Are you into them right now? Are you not into them? What are you feeling?

Hmm. You know, I think I might have flipped. So which way? I think I was so into them. I loved seeing Megan Fox back on the scene. I've never physically been into machine gun, Kelly. I know you talk about this a lot, how, like, you, Sometimes think he's hot, sometimes don't.

I personally, I don't, I love his music. I've been a MachineGon Kelly fan because I like his music. I don't think he's like hot per se for me. Do you know how many people think he's like so hot? My coworkers, like they're upset. People think he's the hottest thing to walk this planet. People think he's the hottest thing. I'm just, I smell cigarettes.

I smell onions. Like, I don't know why. I can't do a frail thin man. Like I, even though he's so much taller than me, like I want like more of like a job. kind of like build. Yeah, but, but okay, but here's a difference

between Coulson and a jock. Coulson is getting wild. Colson likes vagina and wants to like have sex on your period. Yes. The jock. The jock does not. The jock wants to do missionary

and like look at his biceps. So I'm not sure the jock is what you should go for. No, no what I mean? I'm in between. I'm more of like a dad bod, like, you know, in between.

but my point is like I'm not into like the thin man but I do like I'm into like alternative like whatever that's fine but I'm just whatever physically not into him but people love him like they eat but because I think you know what I think I think his demeanor is hot like when he said to Megan like she's like what's my secret towel and he's like uh-huh like that was hot when he was like the first day we breathed it just breath in the second day it's like the BTE thing Yeah. It's like you're like, except like they are two peas in a pod because like I wouldn't be with him doing ayahuasca in the mountains of Bora Bora. Yes. Alyssa, I love you. Thank you so much for coming on. I always have so much so much fun with you. I could talk to you for ever. You guys. Alyssa has a podcast called Tea with publicity. Uh, by bar stool. And you can find it everywhere you find podcasts and she's publicity on Instagram. Alyssa, anything else?

You're the best, Amanda. I feel like we could talk for four. we're freaking hours, literally. I need to have you back on my podcast for a part two because we're just scratching the surface here. No, we're scratching the surface. Like, we, we, we didn't get to have the shit, but that's when you know it was a good fucking episode. So thanks again, babe. I love you. Love you. I'll talk to you soon. Thanks, Amanda. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny, but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny, but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast. We don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you, you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review.

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