Not Skinny But Not Fat - LALA FUCKING KENT

Episode Date: December 21, 2021

Lala in an emotional interview about the public ordeal she’s going through with her ex fiancé. In a very honest and open conversation Lala shares the shock of finding out, how she’s dealing, if she has plans to grow her family, and in lighter news- would she be down to be a REAL HOUSEWIFE? If so which franchise? We also talk about this season of Vanderpump Rules, how she gets away with getting in people’s business and how she would feel if people got in hers.  Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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I'm so excited. Kent is here. We made it happen. And in person. And in person. That's so much better. And it's Jessica. Jessica's the goat.

She gets everything done. She's the best thing that's happened to me since Ocean. And we saw her on the last episode of Vanderpem. Yes. And we were just talking about it before we started that the fucking other girls. And if you're listening right now, come prepared to your next interview. I thought that they were joking. I'm fucking la la. Do you know where you are? Do you know what we're doing? We're on Vanderpump

rules. This is give them la la, basically. Like, that's where you are. Yeah. And even if you don't know who I am, pretend. Yeah. If you're going to go to like an interview at like a financial advisor place and they're like, have you heard of, you know, Michael Schwartz and Nick? I'll be like, yeah. Are you kidding me? I've always I want to work here. Their finances are so good. So, like, we're talking Lala household name. I like to pretend so. Yeah.

Yeah. I love, first of all, you are. And Lala is a name that allows you to own it. It's like a share, like a Madonna. That's how I feel. Yeah. I mean, there's Lala Anthony, but, I mean, Lala is not a common nickname. Yeah.

You know? I would say it's me and Lala Anthony. Yeah. She's way cooler. But I'm just honored to share the same name. Did you ever talk to her about it? Were you ever like... She's always been really sweet to me.

Yeah. I don't think we ever talked about our names. I think I just talked about her great ass. Lauren. When people try to be dicks, they're like, Lauren from Utah. That's what I was going to say. It's the whole sentence. It's like, well, Lauren from Utah.

And it's like, bitch, you know I'm from Utah because I've worn that with pride since I stepped on to Vanderpump. Second of all, I didn't change my name. because I wanted to be quote-unquote gangster. It's because you're saying it incorrectly. What do you mean? It's not Lauren, it's Lauren. Oh.

If I was calling you Amanda, you'd be like, just call me something different. Wait, so how did Lala start? It started when I was just a young kid and everybody was calling me, you know, the neighborhood kids, my little friends, it just was a nickname. It was always Lala. And it stuck because when I moved out to L.A., my best friend from childhood would introduced me to everybody as Lala, so no one knew me as Lauren anymore. I didn't even start that. It was just like, I'm coming to this party with my friend Lala. She just moved here and all

of the sudden that was just my name. It's so good. And I love when people call you La. La. What do people call you law too quickly? Well, what if I was like, hey, La, would that be weird? No, that's what I know that we're real close. Lala, this has been such a fucking, by the way, everyone, she's here in person. She looks amazing. You look gorgeous. And I feel like people, like, I don't know if you have seen my recaps of the show this season, but like people may think that I'm like favoring you a little bit. Like every scene, I'm like, Lala looks, first of all, why do you, you look so, you're always gorgeous, but this season, it's like extra.

Thank you for saying that. I actually need your favor to some this season because I felt like I was coming into this season as like this brand new woman. Like once I gave birth, I just felt like, I felt like a softer version. And then when, you know, we're filming and I'm. you know, calling people out. I felt like it was a different. Lala, I was not clapping back.

I was very, I felt I was very different. I'm having like flashbacks of her being like, ah! Yes, right? Like, Bambi-eyed bitch, Michael Vick, fighting dogs. Like, who was that person? So you don't feel like that person at all?

I still see it in you, though. Oh, trust me. Yeah? If you, yes. But the thing with you... That person will come out. But I don't feel like I displayed that this season. Do you?

Or am I making that? that up in my head. We'll talk about it. So I think you have a way, which is God-given because it's not something. So people don't try to work on it and get this skill because either you have it or you don't, where you can do things and it's okay when you do them. Do you know? Like if someone else did it, I would be like, that's so annoying. Maybe. I would be like, that's so annoying. Why is she going up to literally Brock and literally telling him like it's not a purpose? But when you do it, it's not annoying. And then you cry and it's cute. So you're like, and she's crying. Can I just tell you when the whole Brock and Sheena thing happened? I mostly, and I don't know if I posted this because Sheena follows me and maybe I didn't want to search it up.

But it's like, or maybe I asked Katie. I don't remember because I needed to know. I was like, does Lala really care about Sheena that much? Like, you were crying. So let's go back to the beginning of the season. You were crying over your friendship with Sheena and I was shocked because I didn't know that you cared about her so much. Which part? Was it crying after she did the podcast?

Or was I crying about that you didn't get to experience your pregnancies together? You know, I look back on that time and, you know, it was a group of us that were pregnant at the same time. And I just felt like there was so much heaviness that was brought into those moments where Sheena and I, you know, we've been doing this for a long time together. And even though she may not be like my best friend from childhood, she's still a dear friend to me. and we were pregnant at the same time. We will never have that ever again. So that triggered me. I felt something with that.

It was like, why did we bring the bullshit into a time where we were having babies? Yeah, because it's such a beautiful thing. It's such a beautiful thing. But, okay, so that makes sense. Do you think you were any, like, maybe hormonal a little bit too? Because, like, you just had a baby? No, I think, I think it was a comment. of things. I think I was angry at her that she opened the door with that podcast that

she did saying I wasn't there for her during her miscarriage. I felt like if that upset her that much, she should have picked up the phone and called me. Yeah. It's a big statement to make saying someone wasn't there for you when you miscarried. Yeah. Well, more specifically, she literally said you, she asked you to come over, but you literally like, no, going to dinner with MG, K and Megan Fox, which is very like, it's, that's not me. Like, it would show that your character is like preferring of celebs or whatever. Right, which I really don't give a fuck about to be quite honest. No, I know. And it was funny because you had a really funny moment that I laughed at where you were talking about the RAND's premiere that MGK didn't show up to, which I was all over

that shit. Yeah, I noticed. I was spinning. I was spinning. I was like, ah, because I thought it was just fucked up. It doesn't matter. It just I thought I was fucked up. And you said too, I think it was on Watch What Happens Live. You were like, they wanted to be with like Cravis, not with Love. And that moment just like, I think that's why it works with you is like you could be like a little hotheaded, a little like overstepping, but then you'll bring in the realness of like, you know, who am I? I've always been hotheaded. Yeah. Since the time I lived in Utah, I've always been someone with a quick, sharp tongue. I've always had a short fuse.

I always had very little patience for the bullshit. That's just how I've been from the beginning of time. I know exactly where I come from. no one needs to tell me that I'm Lauren from Utah. I got that. Yeah. Why this in Utah too? Right? Fuck off. Yeah. What did you say you were from L.A.? Like, is that cooler? I don't know. I'm from the town of the Mormons. Yeah. So I have morals without the Mormonism. That's what I like to think. Definitely not the Mormonism. Okay, guys, let's be real. Shopping for underwear is not exactly a fun time. I'm like, wait, what do I like? Do I like hike? do I like boxer like who am I what am I I literally I'm like do I wear thongs now like I don't understand that's why like parade is the perfect underwear one stop shop they literally have amazing underwear insanely comfortable so soft legit you forget you're wearing it I got all sorts

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It's like why we appreciate it. Because if it was just an elephant in the room and everyone was talking about it behind their backs and talking shit, it would be like, but you confronted him about, was that not awkward for you to be like, hey, why are you a dead be dead? No, I was confused. I was very confused. It's like, it's one thing to say I haven't seen my kid in four years because they live somewhere else. But when you say you haven't seen, spoken, FaceTime, nothing, zero communication in four years. I got questions. Why? Yeah. Because you now have a baby with my friend. That's a concern for me. Is it my business? Probably not. But I'm concerned.

that I'm going to make it my business now. Just because I want to. What would you say to someone who said, okay, but what if someone did that to you? I wish they fucking would have. Really? I wish that somebody would have come to me and said, I'm getting DMs about your person.

No one voiced any concern for me and my relationship. Do you think anyone knew and didn't say something? They had to have because a couple episodes ago, James and Sanofal both expressed that they knew. things and as time passes I have a lot of people that are telling me things and it's like you know everyone wants to say it's not your business how would you feel I would give everything to turn back the clock and have someone tell me something la la don't cry la you know now look and listen to this you had baby ocean I know and if you knew sooner maybe you wouldn't have you have to think about it like

that. Like, whatever happens, like you had baby Ocean and you wouldn't want to not have her. No, that's totally true. And imagine you knew before and you broke up with Rand, you wouldn't have her. You would have another baby. Maybe that baby would have sucked. And it wouldn't maybe Ocean, okay? So whatever you went through, you went through for a reason. That's what I have to tell myself every single day. Yeah. But it's such a mind fuck, Amanda. It's, I have to understand how the worst thing to ever happen or come into my life, how did they give me the best. thing to ever happen in my life. It is such a mind fuck. Because maybe people have more than one side. Maybe he has a side that was loving you, a good father, but he has this dark side

that's gross and disgusting. You know what I mean? And you saw the good side. He didn't show you the bad side. Maybe people aren't all like one thing. You know what I mean? You saw the good in him. You saw a lot of good. You like looking back, I know it probably feels this way to you because it does to me is like, you kept uplifting him, which is so probably weird to look back at is like every situation with like Schwartz and Katie or Sheena and Brock, he would like, well, Rand is this kind of a dad?

And, you know, and he would stand up for me. So you were like blinded? Like you saw the good. Like you thought he would, you gave him as the example of what a good man is because that's what you genuinely thought. And you, Lala fucking Kent, who has a big mouth,

who knows her fucking shit. So either you were blinded by love, Do you think? Or do you think he's really good at manipulating? I think my head was completely in the sand. I think I ignored a lot of things that I probably shouldn't have. But I think I ignored them because he's good at what he does. It's so wild to me.

I know so many women probably think this. And we've seen it with actors like Hugh Graham, Elizabeth Hurley. he cheated with like a prostitute. But it's like, no one can even think. Do you think it's also your self-confidence? Like, why the fuck would you do that to me? Like, to me? I mean, I would have put millions upon millions of dollars on him never creeping around

on me. Yeah. Like, why would you need to? I mean, I never would have thought in a million years. And everyone around me is blindsided as well. Yeah. Like how, how these people that are coming and talking and showing us. everything yeah did we never see it did we never question i mean i have conversations daily with

people in my circle where it's like what what the fuck just happened yeah how does he explain it i fucked up we don't communicate but you know what else i loved how you handled it is like which no disrespect to any woman that stays and wants to work in the relationship go to therapy I applaud that. My ego is just way bigger than yours. And even though it's probably scary to walk out, like it looked like from the outside, like you were just like, you heard it. Bye. Like I'm done. Yeah. I think it's one thing where if your dude has a slip up and is doing, you know, he fucked someone. Yeah. You know, that's one thing. I wouldn't forgive that, but I could see how women could say, let's go to therapy and work through this. That was not my situation. That was not it at all. I feel.

my situation is very, very dark and nothing that I represent in any capacity. So for me, when those pictures came out that Girl Gang showed, it's so crazy to me because I got a pit in my stomach. And I've always said when that pit comes, I know something's wrong. I saw those pictures and I just knew I'm going to do what I need to do to exit this relationship. How good that you weren't married, Lala. How fucking great that you weren't married, I thank God and my dad daily that I never married him. Babe, glass half full shit. You know what I mean? Oh my God. Like, yeah, you have to worry about the baby, but we look, we, we tackled that. Baby, amazing thing to have happened. Yeah. Marriage would have fucked shit up. Oh my God. I just the thought

of it sends me into a panic if we, if I would have gotten married. Oh my God. So that's what I wanted to ask you about the pictures came out. I don't know. I didn't repost any of that because I felt like it was, you know, not respectful to you and until something is, you know, comes out of your mouth. I'm not going to talk about it. But how did you feel about people posting it? Were you pissed or were you kind of like, yeah, show show the world what a piece of shitty is? I think what's done in the dark will always come to the light. You know, I protected him. I don't know if you watched season five, you know, I made up that I was dating an athlete. I made up all kinds of shit. I made up all kinds of shit to protect this person thinking that I was being protected in return.

If you choose to go out and do whatever it is that you did that night and you have pictures that are, you know, I can't help you. I'm not embarrassed by this. You're not embarrassed. I did nothing wrong. Yeah. He should be embarrassed. So many women would be.

Do you know what I mean? So many women would have wanted that shit under the fucking rug. Hell no. But you didn't. I'm fucking Lala Kent, dude. I'm Roy Kent. Oh my God. Roy Kenon. Did you watch Ted Lasso? No, who is that? Oh, you have to watch it. Did that sound like I said Roy Kent? No, but there's a character Roy Kent that his thing in the show is saying, I'm Roy fucking Kent.

That's amazing. Now I have to watch it. First of all, yes. And you're Lala fucking Kent. And that's what you should feel every day you look in the mirror and you say that to yourself and you have to believe that, like, what you just said. Like, that doesn't affect who you are. No. What he did. No. And do I, it's not even that I stay there and go, I wish the pictures wouldn't. have been posted or I wish that the pictures were posted. If people want to post, I have zero control over people's pages. Do your thing. I'm not embarrassed. Do your thing. You want to post him out doing whatever the fuck he's doing? Not my issue. Paula, this is the first time you've ever been kind of like open about your life, which is really interesting because this is like you've always been really private. Well, the aspect I feel. Yeah. I feel the control is gone.

When you look into my eyes, I like, I can't. I can't with you. What do you mean? You're so powerful. Thank you. You have like a lot of power. Thank you. You need to feel that.

Thank you. You know what I mean? And know that. I need to remember it. You need to remember it because it's hard, but you got this, Mama. You know, those like moms always say to moms. Like you got this mama. And I was like, kind of cringy, but it's also true.

You got this. Like, we talked about it before we started. Like, you fucking had her ocean in your belly. You gave birth to her. You rescued her. You take care of her. Like, you got this. And again, I really do believe that, like, would you rather be in the situation?

Would you rather stay with this person or know the truth and move on? Oh, I want the truth. I'm, there's so many people on my cast that said we weren't allowed to talk about your relationship. And there were parts of my relationship that you weren't allowed to talk about. You weren't allowed to talk about his ex. You weren't allowed to talk about his kids. zero control over that. That's, that's something that he and his family worked out. But when it

comes to someone fucking around on me, you let me know. Yeah. My relationship is not off limits. Yeah. His prior relationship is off limits. I have no control over that. I feel like maybe people are scared of you, Lala. Do you know? I don't get that. I feel like you're intimidating. I feel like maybe they were scared that if they'd tell you, you would, like, bite their heads off and, like, protect him. Oh, no. No, for sure. You were to present me with the things that I've seen.

Yeah. Look what happened. It was presented to me. Look what happened. Right. Right. Are you mad at certain people for not to, like, have you shut those people out or? I'm in a weird place right now.

I'm very isolated. I'm very, uh, I just, I really just want to be around my mom, my kid, my amazing assistant, just anybody who's going to kind of. of just like keep me incubated, you know, because I'm in fight and flight mode daily and it's not for me. It's for ocean. She's my only concern and my only priority. So I don't really have time to sit here and think about who didn't share things and why they didn't. It's like that ship has sailed. I just want to be around people who are going to really baby me and not make me defend myself. I just need to be babied. How's your anxiety? It's manageable. Good.

You know, I'm, I've been sober for over three years. Amazing. I'm very strong in my sobriety. I'm proud of it. I feel like each day that goes by, you know, I deal with my day's head on in my right frame of mind. So my anxiety goes up and down depending on what I find out that day. Yeah. But you're feeling good like you're you look like you're you know when I think about anxiety it's like that debilitating shit which you had we've seen you on the show yeah having those moments before and I attribute that to my alcoholism because since I gave up alcohol and I don't recommend anybody do this I think talk to your doctor before you just start tweaking your you know meds yeah me personally once I got sober I didn't have to be on antidepressants or anti-anxiety

medication anymore. Really? My life was manageable. And again, I'm not saying, go get sober and don't take medication. Talk to your doctor. For me, I didn't need it anymore. Oh, that's amazing. Yeah. Wow. Has it been harder not to drink lately? Or is that you're so? You would think so. But no. Not at all. Great. It's like not even a thought in my mind. I go to my meetings. I talk to my sponsor. My little sober sisters have really stepped up to the plate in this moment. That's all I can ask. for is your mom in utah no my mom actually packed up when when all of this news broke she packed a bag for three days that was october 16th she's been here ever since stop yeah because she takes care of ocean when i'm working yeah during the day and i work from home but if i'm doing things like

today we're doing your podcast so she's so she's with ocean yeah but i thought you have like a day nurse or that was that was well no that was when i was with that person And, you know, that was very necessary for me to have. And I know what it looked like and it was confusing for me too. There were, no, there were moments. I noticed yesterday with the editing a little bit and obviously I'll say this. You don't have to say it where there was a moment where it made it seem like bougie. Right.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah. But listen, I want to tell everyone this. I have a baby now. And I used to judge people with nannies and with help and with living nannies or a nanny for one kid. All the help. You need all the fucking help. You know what I mean?

And I'm hard on myself. Like I work from home. So I'm also like, how do I take someone? I'm like home. But like I really need to self talk. Like you need help. Like a baby is hard. So, but I did notice in the show the last episode, there was a moment where I don't

know, the editing was trying to make it seem like, you know, you were saying how you're with a whatever. And then they were like, oh, hand her off to the day nurse. Yes. There was like a moment. The show does love me to refer to them as the day nurse and the night nurse. They love those words. Oh, like.

You should say their names, meaning? No, they, they, I mean, I would normally just say I'm going to, I'm going to give Ocean to Karen now, or I'm going to give Ocean to live. But they like the day nurse and the night nurse. Yeah, because it sounds like extra bougie. You also have to remember, the babies are only allowed to be on camera for 20 minutes. Oh. That's it.

Oh, there's a law. Oh, yeah. Oh. And once the 20 minutes are up, they, they got a hand her. Got a hand her off. Okay. And my mom lived in Utah at the time. It would have much rather had my mom taking care of my baby.

Yeah, especially at the beginning, like you need, like, you need someone. You need your mom. You need and if not, then you need a night nurse. My mom took a night nurse when she was, my dad, like, they didn't have any money, but she didn't have a family. So anyway, it's not as bougie as I feel like the episode made it seem. Yeah, it seemed very boozy watching it back. And when I was in it, it was like, this is just like my partner.

Yeah. You know? She helps you. Like I take a feed. The night nurse takes the feed, you know? So you're not up every two hours. hours, which I commend the moms who do that. Yeah.

But that's, I also work. I know it looks like I just sit there and twiddle my thumbs and a camera crew just shows up at my house. No, that is not work. Why do you think people think that? Because you said that on the episode yesterday. Why do you think, no, really, why do you think people think that? Because I don't think anyone thinks that is my point.

I feel like it's your projecting that people think that you don't do shit. I think I fixate on the two comments that are bad. and I don't realize the hundreds upon hundreds of amazing comments that I get daily. Now, there are days where I'm great at that and like, fuck this little troll. Yeah. But I'm also human and there are days where, you know, even though I sit here and it's like, I don't give a fuck about anything, I kind of give a fuck. Babe, we know you give a fuck.

Let me tell you. Wait, let me tell you a secret. We know you give a fuck. I feel like that's very like I call myself a Chihuahua sometimes because it can sound like I'm confident, whatever, but if someone says any, like, I'll cry and go into a corner. Totally. I feel like you're, like, I think we can see through that. And that's why you're likable. If you were just, you know, confrontational and all this, then people wouldn't like you. But I've felt on the web that people are loving you this season. And I feel like, do you feel the

support? Because I feel like it's outpouring. I do. Yeah. Beyond. It's actually, I think about it and kind of cry daily because it's i think about what i've done in the short period of time that i've been in this sort of spotlight or you know had this platform for just this outpour of love and support and people sharing their stories so i feel bonded and connected to them like it's it's very strange yeah it sucks that like something bad has to happen for people sometimes to like be sweet Do you get what I mean? Like sometimes you have that, that friend that's there for you only when shit really gets dark. Right.

But like when you're like, I'm engaged. You like, let's give them the fuck. You notice those friends. You know what I mean? Yes. So it maybe is a little bit of human nature, but I really feel like people are really Team Lala this season. And now we're going to move on to Sandy.

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Oh my God. The dick in the mouth about chores. Yes. Yeah. That was good. That just comes out for you. Like you just like. Yeah.

Sometimes I don't know where things come from and they come out and I'm like, oh God. You're like, how does it taste? I'm like, what? And she was like, Santaval's dick in your mouth. Boom. That was a moment. We were talking about Katie and their relationship and then he just started going off on this like, let's defend Sandoval. And I was like, the Sandoval dick in your mouth needs to make its exit and we got to figure this out.

Yeah. Little did I know. Yeah. I had no skin in the game of pointing out people's flaws in their relationship. Yeah. That is a little like, I don't know if it's foreshadowy or it's something, but that's that. That's what I was saying about you, like, you kept on giving the example of your person being the good, you know.

I think I was projecting. Really? I do. You feel like some, like your intuition, you felt something. Yeah. Hmm. I do. Certain things that I was saying, it was like, thou doth protest too much.

And I felt like that's what was, that's the only thing that I can. When you look back now. Yeah. You're like, why did I care? Like, that's what you're talking about. Like, why was I saying that? Why was I so invested? Well, why was I so invested?

I mean, yes, we're filming a television show, but, like, I don't have to give a shit. It's not like producers sit there with a gun to my head and say, talk about this. Yeah, but you want, but you want to make a good, like, you're not Christine from selling sunset, okay? But, like, no, you're really not. I don't watch that shit. Oh, you don't know. Oh, okay. Jessica does.

Jessica does. She'll fill you in. Okay. No, because she will say like, I'm, you know, I'm being the villain. I'm being the bitch. I'm making the show. That's not your vibe. Okay.

Well, that's good. Yeah, that's good. But when you look back, it's like, why did I care so much about Brock? Why do I care about, you know, Tom standing up for Katie? Yeah. I don't know why the fuck I cared so much. It's like, I don't know what to tell you. I mean, now looking at the pile of shit, I'm kicking it in.

It's like, your guys' relationships look awesome. Yeah. Where do I sign up for the Katie and. Schwartz relationship. You're going to get it. Look at all this midlife shit. Again, we're talking about this before we started the podcast. That's what I look at is like, look at Kravis, found each other midlife.

That's true. You're not even midlife. You're just 30 now, now? 31, yeah. Okay. Look at Benefer 2.0. Love that. Look at their other couple.

Oh, Chelsea Handler and her new comedian boyfriend, Joe Coy. She found love after many, many years. And she keeps shouting it from the rooftop. like it can happen. So I think it sounds crazier that you have any doubt that you're going to be killing it. Yeah. In the men's game. You know what? I think I will find that amazing love of my life. I do feel that. Right now, though, I just want, like, I want give them Lala to be a fucking empire. I want to just, like, that is my baby. That in Ocean. I want to provide her with a beautiful life. that's that is my that's my priority right now finding love is like beyond on the backburner

even finding a good lay is like beyond on the back burner oh speaking of you did a a bella vibrator ad yeah good timing great timing like for the ad for the company yeah um and and obviously you added like a kick in the caption which i was gonna repose but i i didn't yet is And that was, that was good. That was good. You said it was the best sexual experience you've had in specifically five years and eight months. Boom, post.

I did. Boom, posts. I mean, it's the same thing with Starla. Like I introduced. I'm like, welcome to my new place. And these brands get like publication pickup. And they're happy. I'm happy.

Yeah. Bam, we did our job. You got me off and I, you're in People magazine. And the thing is. I feel like people were noticing that you were doing more ads now. And actually to me, like I feel like it was heartwarming. Right. So I feel like it was like such a.

Yeah. She's going to do what she has to do now. Yeah. I mean, I have a place to pay for now. I have a car to pay for. I mean, I think a lot of people think that my life was taking care of when I was with that person. But let's be very clear.

I mean, he put a roof over my head. He provided me with a car. He provided me with insurance. that's pretty much most married couples married I know we weren't but most couples that I know I mean they're the woman is you made it sound like it was more you know what I mean not that I think I think I was I think I came in hot at the beginning of Vanderpump and I was trying to throw salt in wounds and I was never able to recover from the comments I had made right about flying private where my whole thing was like all of it yeah where my whole thing was was I really giving BJs for private jets

No. You know what my question was that back then was like, does she really like giving BJs? I actually did like giving BJs for a long time. That is crazy. That's a whole other podcast episode. That's what I was thinking. I was like, fuck BJs for something. But like BJs in general, like she likes doing it.

I don't understand. Yeah. See? That's crazy. But I said things that were like just, I wanted to like poke. And you're funny. So you were like making a joke. But that stuff you're saying.

And then people... I put myself in the box. And you had that appointment at the hair salon, I remember. Was it with Sassy? Where you were like... Yes, where I was talking about all of these things.

Do you regret those things? Of course I regret those things. Really? I don't want to say I regret them. I was young and to look back, it's like, I don't even recognize that person. But that person was also like 20, 27. Yeah.

I entered Vanderpump when I was 24. Yeah. I mean, that's a young person. Very. But do you think there was part of you, that was trying to shock, but also say

this might look like a weird relationship and you might wonder what I find in him but I'll have you think that he gets me these things and I like it. I think at the beginning

of our time together I was being spoiled a lot. That was not how it was throughout our time together and I always said you know, if I ended up in a box tomorrow, I can't think of anybody else I'd rather live in a box with. Really? That's how you felt. It's how I felt. You really loved him.

I did. Yeah. And I think that's what is so hard to stomach for me is that, you know, even when we weren't connecting, I was so loyal and faithful. I was not sending inappropriate text messages. I was like in it. I went straight to him if I was ever feeling unhappy. I was willing to do couples therapy. I started going to therapy on my own. Like I was doing anything I possibly could to make sure that he and I would stand the test of time. And to feel like I was doing all of that really for nothing. I mean, Amanda, I look back on these years with him and I can't remember it.

You can't remember the good times? I can't remember any of it. I just think I've blocked, like, I've blocked it out. But that's your, that's your, your brain and your body protecting you. Do you know what I mean? That's how the mind works in crazy ways. That's legit, like you are protecting yourself from being more traumatized than you are. Yeah.

So don't remember it. Don't try to remember it. There was no resolve, you know? Yeah. He came home. I had seen the pictures. I kind of knew what I wanted to do. We didn't have a conversation.

about it and I packed my stuff and I left. And there was no communication about anything. Even now. It's through lawyers? It's just very, it's about ocean and that is it. So he's not trying to get back with you? No. Like Kanye? No. Really? There's no communication at all. Do you think it's like ego for him? Like he's angry? I don't know what it is because we're talking about someone who I don't know. Like you feel like you don't even I don't know who he is at all. So Lala, what I'm saying is don't try to remember it. You don't need to journal about what the last five years were. You met someone who was good to you at the time. You found shit out. We're happy that you found it out rather than you be in the dark for longer. You're young. You're beautiful.

You have a beautiful baby that you want on this planet. Mm-hmm. She's my everything. Yeah. She's so fucking cute. She's so cute. She's so cute. She's so cute. Cute. I know. She's crawling. She got her fangs in before her two middle teeth. That usually doesn't happen. It never happens. Her pediatrician was like, this is extremely rare. Wait, how many months is she now? She's nine today. She's nine months today. Yeah. Did you ever think you would be the person that was like taking a nine month baby photo? Well, unfortunately, I'm not. I look at all my friends. And they're like, I'm eight months today. And they've got the cute outfit in the box or they're in the basket. And me, I'm like, oh shit. It's. The 15th. She's another month today. Like, we'll just take a quick picture for me to remember it. But, like, I don't do the whole Pinterest thing. I have a bad mom for that. Not at all. I stopped after, like, three months, I think. It's a lot of work. It's a lot of work. And you take so many pictures of her anyway. And you'll see what month. You'll see what month it is. You know what I mean? You're like, I can see what month it is. Yeah. People do crazy shit. People do different themes for, like, each month, too. Like, today I'm like, he's in. a pizza box and tomorrow he's into this and what yeah people do crazy fucking shit no ocean is very adamant about what she wants already and if she's not viving she will let you know yeah like if i put her in a pizza box she would well she could love it but if she didn't like i would know is so is she a calm baby or is she feisty what is she she's calm but if she's somewhere she doesn't

want to be and she's bored she makes it heard yes you know i love i love Like, I can't just stick her somewhere and leave her. You know, like, some of my friends have babies where, like, you can literally put them in their playpen. And they're chilling for hours playing with their blogs. Ocean, no. You have to entertainer. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

A lot of entertaining. I know it. So do you think you want more kids, Lala? I do. Yeah? Yes. I think I'll start, depending on what my life looks like next year. I think I'll start figuring out.

I don't want another baby daddy. So that we know. Yeah. But I'll start figuring out options for me to have another baby. I think you'll find someone and have like a family unit at some point. And if not, you'll have a backup. I love a good backup. I love, like to me, I love my baby so much.

I'm obsessed with him. But it's like it's so crazy that I can't think about another baby. So when people are like have a baby and they're immediately talking about another baby. Yeah. How old is Noah? He's a year and a half. But it's wild. Like, I don't have a moment.

I know. I leave him for a second. He's, like, hanging by the, by the curtain. I'm like, oh, my God. It's like, you know, it's just crazy. And I'm like, another one. Do you know that my sister randomly, like, had sex with her husband, which is, like, very random. Like the one time a year in this happened, got pregnant, goes to the doctor's appointment.

They're like, there are two heartbeats. No. So that can happen randomly, which is, to me, is terrifying. Like, yeah, babies are blessing. but but it's but it's a lot and it's a lot of it's a lot of work the morning comes very quickly that is for sure like i feel like i just put her to bed and then i'm finally winding down yeah and already it's like she's awake what time does she wake up if you're going to say like seven 30 i'm going to kick you out of the studio low no she wakes up between six and seven

okay and goes to sleep she goes to sleep around 8 30 oh that's late so you hang out with her till 8.30? Oh, yeah. Oh, that's late. And then when do you go to sleep? Oh, I like to get in the bed by 9. Yeah. But then I watch all these fucking murder shows. Why do you watch more shows? There's something about them that's really just, me and my mom, dig murder mysteries. Aw. Not scary movies. Yeah. Murder mysteries. Murder. Like real. You want the real killers. Yes. I have to know. I'm like infatuated with it. But you also watch like housewives and shit, right? Oh, don't even get me started. I've watched every, I'm watching OG OC right now. What, you're starting from the beginning? Sure am. Should I?

I think everyone should. Do you know that people talk about you a lot as a great candidate for a housewife? How do you feel about that? It depends on which one. There are moments where I'm like, oh my God, yes. Like, I see it. I see what everyone's saying. I think I could do Salt Lake. Would you? I would love to do Salt Lake. Really? Oh, yeah. You take me back to my roots. True. But Beverly Hills would be. too, like weird? Beverly Hills, I like it, but I just think the age is off. But they did that with New York. That's, yeah, when like, well, not really, because she's a little older than you, Leah, but she came in and, like, no one believed that she was, like, hang out with Luann. Or, like,

with Ramona. Luann is cooler. But, like, no one was like, oh, Leanne Ramona are going to go have a tea. Like, so that would be your, but that even you would be more than Leah because you kind of know those you probably would say hi to those people if you saw them on the street i love garcel more than anything she's so beautiful she's so stunning yeah and every time i see her she is just like a bright light oh like she's a vibe but you know you think you have to think about do you have things in common with these people yeah you're just living in the same area is not like a common yeah you know if teddy were on that would be a different story too because she has a young baby right oh you've thought about this lala kent i i obviously

Yeah. Would you do the... Constantly looking at ways to elevate. To elevate. But would, so is that like, would you be okay with leaving Vanderpump for that? If they were to say to me, we would like to transition you into this.

Yes. Yeah. Because I'm all about my future and what's going to get me to the next level so that I can, you know, create something great for my kid. Yeah. Does it scare you at all, though?

Because you do post-Ocean, which like I'm all for. I usually make fun of the emoji, babies a little bit. You know what I mean? Wait, what are emoji babies? When people cover their kids faces with emojis. What do you mean? Have you never seen that? Yeah, I've seen it. I just like you call it emoji baby. Well, yeah, because it's like, why post the fucking picture then? I know. I know. I don't get that. Then don't. Find a picture of you by yourself and just don't post the kid. But then it's like with this and it's so ugly. Like I don't care about grid and like how my grid looks, but I don't want a

huge yellow emoji on my grid. No, I don't either. I don't either. So you post ocean. And you say like you would be, you're willing to show our on TV. Does that scare you? Do you have any fears about that? Or are you like? Oh, God. I never thought about it. I know. It's weird. I like posted my hotel the other day and someone it's like, down past our thing. And I'm like, are they going to wait outside for me? Like John Lennon. It's such a crazy time. I mean. But I rather not think that. I know. I'd rather not think it. Because I told my husband, I was like, the only way they could kill me is not, they can't come into my room. They could like wait outside for me to leave. Yeah. You should just be careful. Yeah. I think I'd be okay. Yeah.

do you what with posting ocean well ocean's been posted that ship has been there are a lot of celebrities that are very like self-righteous and and will say like I want my kid to tune you know and you're like are you going to wait for your kid to be like I want to be posted on Instagram I think it would be different if I were like a Gigi hadid yeah or an angelina Jolie I'm on a fucking reality show about my life okay this is why I love you because there are people I can't think of an example now. You are very like, I know where I came from. Yes.

Like, I'm not going to pretend like you are famous. People do know you. But you're not going to like pretend like you're Gigi Hadid. I'm not, I'm well known because I'm on a reality TV show by Vanderpum Rules. Yeah. Okay? Yeah.

Just call it what it is. I'm not known because I won a fucking Oscar or I'm well. Walking for Victoria's secrets. Yeah. You know, those people, I think, have the right to sit there and say, you know what? I wanted to be an actress. I like the art. Right.

Fame comes along with that. I don't want to show my kid. Right. I literally felt so compelled to be known, I guess, that I threw myself onto a reality show. Like, well, if I can't be an actress, I'm just going to be myself. Yeah. Hopefully people think I'm interesting. And they did.

well luckily yeah but are you still trying acting stuff like will you go to auditions no i i i audition all the time really i do i really enjoy it you know do you think it hurts to be in reality tv like when they know you're on a show or does it help sometimes i think both i think it depends on the project right i think if it's maybe like a smaller film it's like this will bring notoriety to the film i think if it's a more you know you have a very amazing cast it's like we're really going to bring on the chick from Vanderpump rules. Like, even if my audition tape is great, I'm in a box.

Yeah. Unless they don't know you. Unless they don't know me, that's always... Wouldn't that be fun, though, if you're like, maybe you don't, maybe you don't know Bravo. That's always the best. That's what you would hope for. No idea.

Yeah. Yes. And you did a few roles. I did. Yeah. Yeah. We're venturing out into new territory now, which I'm excited about. Okay.

Well, Lala, I love you so much. Thank you. I think you're an amazing. person and mom. Thank you. And I wish you the best of luck. And I really do believe that you got to just believe that shit. Like you believe in God.

Just believe shit happens for a reason and you're going to power through this. You're going to come out stronger. And you're going to show your baby girl that mom can do everything and she's going to give her the best life she could possibly give her. I'm going to. You are. I had so much fun talking to you. Thank you for having me.

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