Not Skinny But Not Fat - Lexi Wood: The Breakup

Episode Date: May 20, 2025

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And I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars on my very own podcast where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Hey, hey, hey, you guys, it's almost my birthday. No, honestly, this is an act. I actually don't care this year. I swear, you guys, I've matured so much. I don't, I don't care that much. I even, for Husbs, 40th, I went all out. And he, I really did suck at his birthday for years because this guy is such a

specific kind of dude that you can't get him anything like he still makes fun of me till this day of like gifts that I had bought him so it's just like okay then I'm not going to buy you gifts and he's always really great to buy me gifts but so for this 40th I was like I'm gonna do everything like I planned us a trip we're gonna go away in a couple weeks then he got this watch that he really really wanted but it just happened because we like registered on this like wait list yes it's like super fancy super fucking whatever and then they called and I was like oh my god it's in time for his 40th birthday. And I told him, I was like, I literally manifested this for you with my manifesting powers. You're welcome. We threw a birthday with his friends. But I think most importantly,

I made a cake. Okay. I'm not going to say baked. Some of you made fun of me. I made a cake that was so delicious for the first time in my life. So I think he appreciated that. And then we went out to dinner and I was like, oh my God. I almost forgot the card. And he was like, you wrote me a card too. So like, he really feels, he really feels the pressure. But I was like, listen, I didn't do this for you to like do it back. Like no pressure. No, just kidding. Really. no pressure. And you know what? I can buy myself. I can buy myself something. I can say, I mean, it's your birthday. Treat yourself. But I don't know what I want. So if you have any ideas, let me know because I actually don't know. Anyway, shout out to my May birthday

girlies, my Gemini queens. By the way, I love that. You guys love the Josh Dumel episode so much. I have to tell you, I've never received this many DMs about a celebrity before. Like, so many of like messages of from people saying they like met him and how nice he was like and he was so nice and I think you hear on the pod like that he's so down to earth and fun and chill but then seeing so many messages from you demois style of like I met him like he called my best friend when I asked like which or this or like you worked with him on a movie and he like took this all the employees out for drinks after like what a dude what a dude just like you know I stand I stand I stand And I really enjoyed that episode.

That being said, this isn't a that being said kind of moment, but that being said, we're going to switch it right back to reality TV because you guys know I'm a summer house, girly through and through. I hate saying girly, but I don't know what it are watching sometimes. I just love summer house. It's one of my favorite shows. I feel like ever since I started watching it, it was like young people going the Hamptons on the weekend, getting fucked up.

Thank you. And also I'm such a romance kind of girl. that I love reality TV when there is like hookups. Like that's why with housewives I end up falling off because it's like just women like fighting like no, no, I want to see like hookups, romance, breakups. Like that's where it really gets me. So anyway, love Summer House. I don't have to give you this spiel.

You love Summer House too. And Lexi Wood is here. And that just threw me back to when Jesse made that joke. Lexi Wood is here. And we're going to go through the whole Jesse drama, you know, her hanging with her family all the time her mom going clubbing and ever since you know like where they stand now and there's just so much to ask her like jesse just went on watch what happens live people are cringing people are icking people have more questions and you guys know how i feel about that i'm not on team bash

anybody but i do think lexie's freaking great and she's working adorable and she's here just man enjoy wait i'm so excited to be here big fan really you're so sweet Thank you. I, when you message me, I was like, ugh. I did like at the beginning of the, yeah. I've been, I mean, this season. Told my mom immediately, I was like, you'll never guess.

You'll never get. She's like, no, I actually won't guess. No, she loves you too. So I was so excited. Yeah, me too. Thank you so much for having me. How's it been going? Well, let's get.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We'll wait. That's what I do. I always want to, like, chat before. I know. That's my sister, by the way, Ariel. Hi.

I also hang out with my family. family all the time. Okay. Yeah. You get it. I get it. Honestly, there's no better people to hang out with. I know. My mom used to live in my building. She used to live in my building. Now she moved to my sister's building, which is like a block away. Amazing. So we're all like. That's what I'm talking about. Yeah. My sister used to have her own apartment, but because we're not from this country, she doesn't, you can't bring your credit from Canada to America. So you actually can't get an apartment. People forget that Canada is like actually a different country and that like you have to become a citizen. Yeah, like you have to...

You're like a work visa? Yeah, so I have an O-1 visa for like the last like 10 years. But you have to renew it every three years. So now just recently in the last two years, my mom and sister have an O2 visa. But because they can't have credit here, like it takes a while to build. So they can't get an apartment even if they wanted to. Yeah, which is insane. So how will they eventually?

Eventually they'll have credit here. Like over the last couple years, they've been building it. So that's the most important part. helps you get an apartment, yeah. And what about, like, a visa? So, you don't need one. You, no, you need to have some sort of, like, visa or something to even get an apartment in America.

Which is all crazy. So what are they going to do? So because they have their, like, work visas, now they're in the process of building the credit. Yeah, so now it's like, yeah, it just takes time. So it's so funny that everybody is like. So they're official employees of yours. Yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's been crazy, but honestly, I'm so grateful. Because it's, I mean, being in the industry for so long, like, I've just had so many. Wait, see, we're wasting stuff. Sorry, sorry. Oh, good. Never mind. Keep going.

Keep going, Lexi. Okay, wait, we can just get back into it. We can start however you want. Lexi Wood is here. Amazing. No jokes about Wood. Never will I make a joke about that. Okay, perfect.

I will say it's a hot name to have. Thank you. Thank you so much. Like a stage name, but it's not. It's for real. It's for real. Yeah, that's great. Yeah.

I love it's hilarious do you love it I think when I was younger I was like oh my god like another wood joke and now I just kind of roll with it I'm like that's and it's Lexi born Lexi not like Alexandria born Alexis oh I know you're not an Alexis that's the thing it's honestly it's so funny how I got my name my parents thought I was going to be a boy like until I was literally out of her oh because because why they didn't have like the old like they did But I was always, like, posed weird so they could never see what I was. Yeah. And because her pregnancies were so different from my older sister, she was like, oh, for sure, it's a boy.

Yeah. Until I literally popped out. And she was like, oh, my God. But wait, it was supposed to be a Lexus for a boy? No. So they had, like, I was supposed to be named Ryder. And then I pop out. Wait, you would be a hot writer.

Right? Could you imagine? Oh, my God. I... Look at you. You're a writer. I know. I am and I'm obsessed with it.

If my name was writer, I would be that bitch. You would? I would. First of all, you're a writer. I feel like we should make it the middle name or something. Something. I want to name my future kid that. But she literally got a baby name book.

Yeah, she got a baby name book. And Alexis was like the top name. She's like, yes, I'll do it. I like this. So then when did you change it to Lexi? They just always called me Lexi as a short form. Yeah. I was only called like Alexis if I was like getting into trouble.

It'd be like Alexis. And still, though? Or no? Not as much. I don't get into as much trouble. Right, right. Your mom can't get mad at you. at the clubs at 2 a.m.

So you are from Canada. We were just discussing. Yes. She's Canadian. I'm Canadian. You can hear it sometimes when it comes out like you're like, ooh. Yeah. I love it.

Yeah. I love it. Thank you. Were you a huge Justin Bieber fan? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Of course. Do you know, like, where he lives?

It's actually funny. My great aunt and uncle lived the town over from him. So, like, I have to drive, like, through his town to get to my great and uncle's house. So, yes, I did. And, like, they knew of his family. and crazy. I know. He's such, like, a sweet guy, too. I know.

But I feel like he'll be okay. He has Haley. Yeah, I agree. He has Haley. Yeah. So, wait, tell us about your first how you got to America story. Okay. So I was 17, and I was living in, I had just gone to Paris.

I was living in Canada, and an agency in Miami was like, we want you to move to Miami for a little bit. and build your portfolio here. How did you start modeling, though? Like, you got approached or... Yeah, so it was when I was 10 or 11 years old. My sister actually bought a camera. And she was like, oh, can I take pictures of you? We did this, like, we creative directed this shoot

that was, like, me wearing ball gowns and a construction site. We just loved the contrast. And my dad was just showing his work friends being like, oh, look how fun the girls. Like, look, it's so cute. It's so fun. And then his work friends' kids were in modeling.

Okay. And I was so shy, like, would not speak. like ever at all so then his work friend was like you should get Lexie into modeling like maybe it'll help her get out of her shell she seems to really like it and then they sent it in like the president

owner of the agency immediately called my dad and was like when can I meet this child so you were eight I was 11 11 yeah and then I met her the next day and she signed me basically on the spot and then I think my first job was like two days after that and I just loved it I was like this is where I

Were you confident because you said you weren't like a big talker, but were you, did you have confidence? It's funny because I feel like I didn't ever think about confidence. Like I, it's not even that, like, I was just really shy. Yeah. I was just a shy kid. I would just like, you still have that a little bit or no? Yeah, for sure.

I can definitely be a little bit more recluse if like, what's the word? I don't know. It sounded really fancy, though. I love it for you. I think. I think it is. Yeah. Yeah, I can definitely be more like.

Oh, you're scared to say it again. Yeah, reserved. Yeah, like, reserved. Yeah, like, let's use that one. And yeah, so I can definitely get in my head sometimes. I'll literally to this day give myself like pep talks and be like, you bought this. So your sister, first of all, that's really sweet that from a young age, she kind of thought of you as like her like muse. Yeah, we've always been best friends.

Do you have jealousy of her? Like, does she get jealous that you're, you know, doing all this stuff, that you're like gorgeous model? No, she's so brilliant. She's so beautiful. She's literally the coolest girl I know. And she loves being like behind the scenes. she loves it so much. She actually wrote for like Galore Magazine

and she used to work for talentless and... So you guys don't have the same dreams? No. Yeah. Which is always so great. We can just really support each other in both ends of the industry. That is amazing.

Which has just been like a dream come true. So it's only two of you, right? Yeah. Yeah. We're three sisters. So jealous. No, yes, but it probably wouldn't have been the same. Do you know what I mean?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like it wouldn't for sure be the same. I feel like sometimes when there is three, yeah there is more like because imagine the third wasn't into this industry and then she would be just the two of you so I think two is good for my experience she's great me and my sisters were just together all the time we fight but but it causes a lot of drama yeah you know I feel like that works for you the two yeah Tiffany and I are so opposite that it ends up just even where we are so different we so embrace each other's differences and learn from each other's differences yeah so yeah

And she's like your second mom, it seems like. Yeah, she's just, I don't know. We've just, I was been super close. How much older is she? Only three years. Oh, only three years. Yeah. So what first job brought you to America? So I was just an agency who was just like come to America.

Basically how it goes with modeling is your mother agency, so at the time mine was in Toronto. They would kind of set you up with agencies worldwide. You'd just have a meeting. And then they would just decide if they wanted to sign you or not. And then they would probably move you to. where that is just so you can build your portfolio there. So I started when I was 17, the day my 17th birthday, I moved to Paris. Yeah. And then I moved to Miami. My sister came with me just because at 17 you're not a lot to go to Europe alone. And then I moved to Miami. My

sister came with me again because I was 17. And then I moved to New York. Wow. And your sister came to. No. Wait, did she not go to college because of it or did she finish college already? She went to college and just took a semester off. Yeah. And then. And then, you know, and then. and she ended up just staying off. And you, from the get, knew that you were just going to pursue modeling and not go the academic route. Yeah, I feel like I just always had this, like, gut feeling in my stomach that, like, I just would never give up.

Yeah. So I just never have. And I, and you were, you had a million followers before you joined Summer House? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So you were. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And, like, a lot of things that I'm currently working on, I got way before I was even on Summer House, which has been really cool to kind of, like, share. journey with those clients too. Right. So how did Summerhouse, because we all know, maybe you won't say it. But when they introduced a new person, it's always like, it's Amanda's friend from the one time they met, you know? So that was the connection. You knew Amanda kind of around about, but how, tell me a little bit about the process of getting on. When you got approached about it,

were you like, ooh, or you were like, what was your reaction? At first I feel like, so Amanda asked me to go on like two years ago. Oh, so she did. Yes. She did. Yeah. She said, come to her, share house. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. So she asked me, at the time, I hadn't really known anyone else on the show. So I was like, oh, maybe not. And then just through social, I met Paige and Sierra. Okay. Which I was like, okay, at least now I have a little bit more familiar faces. So when I was approached, I was a little bit more open. But I'm going to be so honest, like I fully thought it was fake. Like, I was like, this doesn't seem like a real email. Oh, you thought it was fake the like the casting. Oh, okay. Not the show.

Okay, okay. Because I remember Jesse said, like, he didn't know what to expect when he came on. Okay. And then he was like, it was legit. So you thought the email. That's how I am, by the way, when I get huge opportunities. I'm like, okay, who's trolling me? Yes. That just means we're humble and sweet. Yeah. Okay. So you get the email, think it's fake. Yes. I was actually in Key West. I spent a lot of time in Key West. And I was like in my bikini, like being a beach bum. And I was like, there's no way that this is real. And then it was, which is crazy. Wait, when they said accepted? When they said, do you want to cast for this? Okay. I was like, mm. And then it was like one of those gut feelings where I'm like, you know what?

Like, I talked to my mom and sister because they manage me. And I was like, I think my mom was like, I just have a gut feeling. It might be like actually Amanda, like you're Amanda show. So we should email that. Oh, wait. What you mean? Sorry. You didn't know that this was the same thing Amanda was talking about? So they don't say. Oh, okay.

Yeah, they don't actually say the show's name. It just says Bravo. Because, yeah, I think it said Bravo show, like, filming in the summer. Okay. Like, ongoing, same cast vibe. Okay. But it gave, like, not that many details. Okay, so your mom had a gut, feeling.

Yeah. So she was like, I feel like maybe this is the show that Amanda was talking about. Yeah. And then she was like, maybe just take the phone call. It's 30 minutes. Who cares? Yeah. I took the phone call, and immediately they were, like, amazing.

We want to send you to the next round of casting. And I was like, oh, okay. So then I did the next round. And then I think that there ended up being, like, four, five rounds of casting. And then they called me and they were like, welcome to the summer house. And were you excited? I was so excited.

Yeah. I was like, this would be so fun to deepen friendships with people that I was familiar with and to just like make new friends. And I feel like it was something that I felt like it would like push my boundaries. Yeah. Which I love to do. And did you ever get approached about a reality show before aside from Amanda? It's funny.

I don't know. No. No. Yeah. I'm thinking like what the bachelor's, The Bachelor could have approached you, but they probably knew that, like, you were too qualified for that.

I'd probably fall in love within the first 10 minutes. Yeah, I mean, yeah. So let's, I mean, because when I think about this season, I really think about, like, it was there like you walked in, adorable, beeline to the kitchen, mad Jesse. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, him and West were the only two people in the house at the time. Lexiwood, the joke, next scene you're, like, starting your thing. Yeah. It happens so fast. Do you tend to do that in relationships, too, like fall deep and hard? Yeah, I feel like that's always been my experience when guys kind of go for it. They really go for it full force, which I really like.

I like it when somebody makes their intentions clear. Yeah. I think that's something that I look for. So that, like, turned you on or Jessie. Wait, did you see him last summer on the show? So I didn't watch the show. I only tuned into, like, maybe two episodes last season when I got casted. Oh.

And they were just like random. You know, people aren't going to believe that you... I know. I know, but I didn't. Okay. I really genuinely didn't. I ended up going back and watching only a couple episodes, but it was really important to me.

And it's been like this my entire career, even aside from Summer House, to never look too much into people or whatever, because I always wanted just to have like an authentic experience with them and have them share with me what they want me to know. Okay. So that I didn't go in with like a preconceived idea of this person or this person or I knew too much about this person, but the internet only shows so much of somebody. Yeah. So I always really, really wanted to just be like, okay, I actually don't know much about anyone. Wait, so did you see Jesse and West, like being the new guys last summer? Like, you did see that. Yeah. And did you think,

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I'm not a hater. Like, I don't hate, not going to crucify any reality TV person for bad choices they make on a show. Like at the end of the day, everyone's human. It's relationship stuff. It's, you know, nobody's murdering anybody. Like, it's okay. Yeah. However, I will say he's handling this, like, just the poorest way possible. And Tinks's pot, he told her, like, she asked him like two questions. She was being super easy on him about you. And he said, tinks, tink, sink, sink, sink. I mean, like, this is not, we're not here to talk about. How did he say it? An eight-week relationship I had nine months ago. The thing is- First of all, you are here to talk about it.

was just going to say with the show, honestly, like, let's be honest, I'm sure no one wants to talk about a relationship that you had nine months ago. Trust me, I don't either. Yeah. But at the end of the day, the show is currently airing. Therefore, it's currently in everybody's faces and people are going to currently have questions about it. Yeah. And I'm patient with that. Like, I completely understand that. Whereas, yeah, trust me, I'd rather not ever talk about him either. Right. But at the end of the day, I understand, this is new to everyone else. And because we chose to be on a reality show, it's also fair for people to want to talk about it. And also, that's our jobs. Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding. Like, right. It's our jobs. Like,

you know, I mean, you watch Bravo, you watch a reality show, people get really obsessed about what they're watching. You know what I mean? They get, they feel like they're in it. They feel like they have teams. They take it to the next level, which is why I said that sometimes I feel like I want to help out these people that are villainized so harshly because I'm like, whoa, like their world is coming down. You know what I mean? And even though if they did something fucked up to me, it's like the punishment doesn't fit the crime kind of thing.

Yeah, I can definitely be very loud. Like even I've gotten so much hate, especially because of everything that Jesse and West have said about my family. It's very strange. Like even that one conversation where everybody was in the backyard, that night, Jesse's like, oh, I hung with her family for like three hours. and then we went out all night. That's not how it happened.

We hung out with them for like 20 minutes. My mom's only met Jesse three times. Wait, when they said that then you stayed because you went to like a friend, DJ, something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What happened was Jesse and I were filming together. And then my mom and sister were out living their life because they're independent people. And they were coming back to drop off the dog. And we were going to go to a concert, which was already planned with just the three of us, not Jesse.

And so I'm trying to get Jesse out of the house. And then Jesse's like, I really want to stay and talk to your mom. Can she come in? Like, can I stay when she comes back? And I was like, I mean, sure. And then Jesse apologized to my mom because he's like, I just got caught up and being in a reality show. Like, I'm so sorry. Like, whatever.

My mom's like, yeah, just like, be real. Always be just be consistent. Be real on camera and off camera. You're good. Yeah. And then we bought him dinner. And then he left and we went to our show. He was texting me from the concert, and he's like, I'm at 82 Stanton with West.

Why don't you come? And he was, like, begging us to come. And so I was like, okay, well, we have plans even after this concert, so we'll swing by on our way. I see. So you had plans. Yeah. And so he was the one pressing us to come. So it was just like that entire, every single thing that he says is always embellished,

which is so frustrating. Like, watching back, I'm getting so much hate about, like, my family and how much I hang out with them when it was painted completely not accurately. You're getting hate, like, how can you, people can think it's weird or different or not typical, but they're, you're, you're feeling like legit hate. Yeah, people are being like, that's so insane. Like, oh, where's your mom? Like, oh, you can't even go on a date without your mom. Jesse and I never hung up with my mom.

Yeah. Like, he, again. But she does go to the club with you. Yeah, sometimes. So does my dad. So is your dad. How old are they? My mom's 53 and my dad's 55.

I mean, they are young. Yeah. Yeah, they are young. but that is a different kind of thing, which is cool, but it doesn't happen in most people's families. You know that. Yeah, I do understand that, but I feel like also it sounds so, like, sinister. I'm like, guys, we have, like a booth, a table in the back with, like, our friends.

Like, Chris Jenner vibes? Like, is that Chris Jenner is there? But it's even, like, maybe probably less. It's literally, like, we have. So, like, for example, we went to the S&L after party, and we literally just had a table and bottles, and we all were sitting down just talking with our friends. Like, it's way less.

Like, they kind of acted like my mom was, like, in the middle of the dance floor, like, grinding. Yeah, I'm like, man, you know that's not true. So the fact that they... But, like, good for your mom, because, like, I can't go out. Like, you know what I mean? Like, how does she have the energy? She's honestly, like, it's funny. When we were all growing up, everybody would call her, like, the Energizer Bunny.

Because she just has so much energy. Yeah. She just has, like, her and my dad both have just such young souls. I love it so much. And they did do, like, the whole raise your kids. We were very traditional growing up. Like, dinner is on that table at 6 p.m. Yeah.

And we had a million kids in our house always, like, they were always, like, the parents until obviously now we're adults. You were the house that it was fun to come to, it sounds like. Yeah. Yeah. But you had snacks. You had good snacks. We had the good snacks. We had the parental advice whenever we needed it. Tim Tams or whatever. What are you guys in Canada? We have, like, I'm trying to think, like, an arrow bar. Okay. We have, we are like a big Cadbury country.

Cadbury family. Wait, is your dad in Canada still? So my dad comes back and forth. My mom also goes back. and forth. Okay. Yeah. So she's here a lot just for like meetings and stuff, but her and my dad still have their home that they live. Yeah, their own life. So, but is there a, like, can you see how it's like, if you're a dating Lexi or kind of dating her fam, or is that not the vibe? I would say it's, obviously I'm very close with my family, but that being said, if I'm going to be honest, like my, my parents were probably more like, what are you doing, dating Jesse? And I didn't listen. And you

didn't care. Because I'm an individual person, and they respect that. And you decide what you want to, yeah. And they totally agree with that. They're like, we raised you to have your own mind and we raised you to be your own independent person. And you're going to make decisions and you have to live life. We'll be here to guide you and help you wherever you ask us to. But other than that, like my, as much as it's like you're dating my family, I think at the end of the day, like we would talk to his parents all the time too. So it's, it's never really been like a crazy thing. I was. think naturally girls are closer to their parents and guys. How is it watching it back? Like, we see what you go through in the house, obviously, and kind of the confrontations that you have there. But this is your first season of reality TV. Yeah. You're watching back, everybody's confessionals.

Yeah. So you're seeing what everybody is saying about you, people that not even just Jesse, other people. Yeah. How did that feel? Like, was there anyone you were disappointed in or felt like, hey, like, we were friends. Why'd you say? I mean, West does say a bunch of shit. I'm the most disappointed in West.

I honestly feel like, to my face, West has actually always said the opposite of what he says in his confessionals. So watching his confessionals, it's definitely questionable. And West actually called me after we filmed the reunion. And, well, I called him because he was texting me about the family stuff. And I didn't know that that ever happened. Like, I'm learning things as the episodes come out. I had no idea because everybody kind of like has talked. the majority because of Jesse behind my back, never to my face.

Yeah. So I'm learning all this stuff. So after the reunion, we were texting about family stuff, then I call him because it's just sometimes easier. And I was like, hey, what's up? What's going on? Because, again, I had no idea. And he's like, I honestly just like, I think that you should, you should never date

somebody that doesn't want you to be close to your family. But that being said, I had such strong opinions on it because I wanted to show. show the audience in Sierra that I learned from introducing Sierra to my families too soon. And I said, I totally understand that. You didn't have to throw me under the bus if you actually do agree with how I live my life. Yeah. And you're just trying to get like a point out. But that being said, Jesse never said he didn't, he actually said the opposite. He loved my family being around. He loved, even though they only met three times. But he, I was like, Jesse never had these concerned. So you're fighting a battle just to kind of prove to an audience that you learned a lesson

when it's, Jesse and I didn't care. And if Jesse did care, again, like I said in the season, he should say it to my face. So it's like all of this drama. Yeah. About like something that technically isn't real. And then the episode, obviously talked about episode with the, with the toe-sucking and the flurring with Sierra when you weren't there. Yeah. The girls were also kind of a part of that, like being excited that Jesse and Sierra kind of vibing, then coming up to him and having the conversation about the previous summer. Did that hurt your feelings, too, like watching the girls kind of be part of that? Yeah, for sure. I think that it was disheartening because I thought that it was clear to everyone that Jesse and I were definitely, like, going after

a relationship. But also, I don't necessarily blame them because clearly Jesse was making it seem from how he was communicating with them, that maybe it wasn't as serious as what he was communicating to me. What was he saying to you? Like, I love you? Yeah, like after like 11 days. I love you. I mean, he did say on the show, I'm in love with her. I haven't felt this. Yeah. He said in love. Yes. He was very, very, very full force. He would, he would be like, I love you more than like my first girlfriend, like my first love. Like, I've only had one other relationship. And like, I love you more than that. Were you saying it back? I didn't say it back, but I would be like obviously open to it.

Yeah, and like liking. It sounds, it feels nice. Yeah, for sure. And I think I'm not going to necessarily judge somebody for like, I'm the type of person where I'm like, if you care about somebody, you should, you should say it always. You're like, if you fell in love with me after five days, it makes total sense. And I get it. It felt, it felt for real. Yeah. And then it wasn't. And then when you met his family, this was one of the first times where it felt like we're getting kind of two versions. It was like, you met his family.

Flash forward. They were driving the Hamptons and he's like, yeah, weird. I had to, you know. And everyone's like, that's so, everyone's like so cringed out by it. Like, watching that, like, first of all, this is what doesn't align. Look at her. You know what I mean? Like, it's not like you're this fucking stalker, weirdo bitch being like,

let me meet your family. I'm in love with you. Like, it just doesn't, it doesn't align with like, what we're seeing. Also, I was the opposite. Like, I would be, I was the one that was like, we need to chill out. Like, during the week, he needed to see me every single day that we weren't filming. He needed to be with me all the time.

I was like, we live together on the weekends. And I actually sat him down. And I was like, okay, I think that we need to have a conversation because I feel extremely overwhelmed. I, we hang out too much. Like, this is not normal. We already aren't normal because we live together on the weekends. That's already accelerating a relationship.

But I need us to. to take a chill pill because I said, look, at the end goal of dating is always to get married and then you spend forever together. So we should be taking the time that we don't have to be together and actually be loving that time too. I was like, you should have an independent life. I have an independent life. It gives more conversations. It gives more everything. We cannot be together all the time. And then he would be like, oh my gosh, like, no, I need to see you more times a week than I don't. like I want to sleep with you every single night and like it's just it was like so much he's like I want to wake up with you every day like it was a lot for me and I did feel overwhelmed and I didn't

want him to feel like like I don't know I just felt like every single thing that I said to kind of like be like let's chill out for a minute maybe want him more would make him want it more but also almost like retaliate like he would like almost like punish me with the things behind your yeah so every single time I'd be like let's relax The next thing you know, he would tell the girls that you are making him unfollow other girls, la, la, la, la, la. Yes. And I never asked him to unfollow anyone. I asked him why.

That's a made-up. Yes. You just asked him, why are you following so many, what, models or what? No, 20, 30 a week. What? Oh, like new ones. How did you see that, though, is the question? Someone DM'd me because a photo of Jesse and I kissing in a club in the Hamptons.

Okay. Got, like, blown out there. And so everybody on TikTok was talking about me and Jesse dating and all of this stuff. So then I started getting so many DMs because again, like I have. Hey, guys, she's talking about like when you're filming so you're not even announced as a cast member yet. Like, none of that. No. So technically I don't have the, I can't reply to these.

Like, I can't figure anything out. And because I'm not. So what are they sending you? They're sending me like, hey, it looks like you and Jesse are dating, but he's following all these girls. He just followed my friend. Oh, he's following this girl. Oh, he just followed this girl. like fake accounts, but I'm like, what the heck is going on?

I never looked into it because I was like, oh, it's a fake account, who cares? Until the Toesuck weekend. And then I was like, okay, if he's doing that, maybe he is following all these girls. Wait, what do you mean the toast? The Toes suck. The Toes suck. Literally. Yeah.

Like, you remember it, you live it? Yeah. And then I'm like, the Toast? Yeah. The Toesug brought it all back. Yes. So then I was like. Why don't you end it at the toe suck?

if you are dating a guy and not judging, by the way, I'm asking. Yeah, yeah. And you're into it, but then you find out this weird-ass fact. Yeah. It's not even like, I feel like I would rather, like, oh, he kissed somebody else who was drunk. I feel like I'd prefer that. I feel like the toe suck is not only, like, cheating, but it's also bizarreo.

Okay. No hate on, like, toe-loving, like, king people. Yeah. But, like, you just met this guy. Yeah. You find out this, like, not only is he, like, acting single. when you're not there, but he does this weird thing. Yeah.

I think at that point, Bailey had left. So I was really kind of the only newbie. Yeah. Other than West and Jesse were the next kind of like newbies. And he would always say to me like, oh, you should really listen to everything. Like, you can't trust anyone. You can't trust production. You can't trust anyone in the house.

Like, they'll all use you all this stuff. But you can trust me like, I love you. You should trust me. And so at that point, I think that I really just felt really, unsteady in the way of, I didn't want to lose the only kind of comfort that I had in the house. And also I feel like I'm all about forgiveness. Like I, and the story was so watered down. Like there were so many tears to this of like how you can kind of get over it and be like, okay, let me forgive it. So you heard so many tears, the Sierra and Jesse part and the toe part

after watching the episode though. Yeah. Did that feel? It's insane. I would have broken up with him immediately. I also thought it was like maybe like a toe lick and for five minutes. Not even five minutes. And also you, by the way, it took me, because sometimes you know how you watch a show and like you check your phone. Like it took me like two times to really catch the moment where he says in the kitchen, I think Emerald's like in bed with girls. I'm going to go there. Like that's why are you going. Then you're entering why you entering. And then you agree to this like thing or which is also I just, I just, and also it's a turn. The whole thing's like a turn off. I also didn't know for like a while. Like, he was never going to tell me. So I was in Canada that week because my grandmother was going through cancer surgery. So I went home to be with her and my family and just support her. And Jesse was calling me nonstop. Like he called me that weekend within like 48 hours. Like I think it was like 38 times we talked on the phone. He slept in my bed that night after the toes suck.

he facetimed me after he got his toe sucked at 2 a.m. And then he also sent me photos of ourselves, like kissing and stuff at 3 a.m. With like in love faces and kissy faces. Wait, was that the same night? Yes. And he grinded with Sierra. Yes. Yeah.

And got his toe sucked. So I honestly thought that our relationship was so stable. So that week we were like very, well, we had the official conversation that week. We had on camera. We had it much before that. Like, we had the exclusive conversation pretty much the first week because he's like, I don't want you seeing anyone else. So he was really, really into you.

Yes. And so for me, I was living in this head space of, okay, we've already had the exclusive conversation. He told me he's not seeing anyone else. I've told him I'm not seeing anyone else. Clearly, there's, like, lines drawn in the sand. So then that week we had the official conversation, like on camera, which he actually said, I know we've been exclusive the entire time.

Yeah. But here's the official conversation. So his actions didn't match. No. And then I found out about the toast like after that. And the Sierra, but until watching it, you didn't really know like what everyone made. Yeah. No. No, I had no idea. Especially because he would just always say like, no, like that would never happen. She's like, it's definitely like the house is pushing it on me. It's not from me. We'll be right back after the break. If you're not super hydrating nowadays, like are you even in 2025? Like, yeah, we're not drinking plain water anymore,

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Yeah. Which, by the way, like, I totally understand. Yeah. Like it's, yes, it was early on for you guys to be having, like large conversations, but I feel like I want to put that aside because it's still like you're dating someone and all you see as him being like, I'm surprised Kyle doesn't care to be honest. Yeah. The shit that he says to Amanda. For me, I just have very strong boundaries. Yeah. And you don't have to live by my rules. That's fine. But in that case, then I'm not going to live by

your rules either. And you're not actually going to probably have access to me in that way at all. Because to me, yeah, I'm just very strong in my boundaries. I think that it's really important for girls to have boundaries, for not only their, well, for women to have boundaries, not only for their mental health, physical health, emotional health. I think it's so important. So I lay down what I look for in a man. And if you don't want to... And what girl would want that, though? Like, I'm asking you, girls listening, who would want...

I mean, my husband is literally like, he wouldn't even see you if you were in the room. And that's after like 15 years that we're together. He doesn't, he's just, and not because I ever made him. I just, I guess I picked them like that. You know, where like they're just so loyal that they don't even. That's how mine have always been. So I couldn't imagine touching. I don't think he's hugged my sister who's here.

Like literally she hugs him on her birthday. And he's like, okay. Like he doesn't know what's going on. And he's a weirdo. Okay. But this is, I couldn't imagine like the things he says to him. Amanda, him being turned on by Sierra's leg on the floaty. So I don't think it's crazy at all, like time aside.

But it's just so interesting, like you're talking and I'm really like my mind, you know, that meme looks like with the board. Because it is so crazy to be watching what we're watching. You're living what you're living. The behind the scenes. Did you feel it all bad for him? Again, this is me being a little easy sometimes. When he goes in vents to the girls and he thinks these are my friends.

But now you're telling me he told you you can't trust people. And it kind of lived up to what he said because they ran and told you where he thought I could just vent to them. They're my friends. They were like, no, we're going to tell Lexi. And even Paige said like, what, you said it. So he told her. And I feel like he was super hurt by that because he thought that, you know, that he has

their trust. And it seemed like they kind of didn't want to keep it to themselves. Yeah, I think he thought because I was new that the loyalty would automatically be with him, which I think he still to this day feels. And I think it sucks because I don't mind, like, you should be able to vent to your friends a million percent. You also just have to communicate that with me, though, because I'm sitting in a place where even if there were time, like, I'm trying to think, like, I mean, they were all conversations, so like the following girls thing. That was way blown out of proportion. but, and I never even asked him to unfollow them.

But then he would like flip it like it was like so sinister. And to me, we already got through that. So he was bringing it up when it was already solved between us. We already had our adult relationship already made adult choices. And it was like weeks of us being totally chill. And then he all of a sudden brings us up to the house. So what do you think his motive was to do that? Like what did he want for people to think that you were more into him than he is into you?

Like, what was it? I don't know. I think that he created an environment where everybody in the house was kind of sussed out by me because he did, like, these things make me look insane. And I'm fully aware of that. Yeah. And then he would say things sometimes even off camera to me that would make me kind of sussed out by the house.

Like what? But that's it. I mean, he would say, you can't trust anyone. I have, like, text messages of him saying, like, you can't trust anyone. Like, productions out to get us. Everyone's trying to break us up. We need to stick together. We're literally just cast.

We're not friends. Like all of this crazy stuff. Me as a newbie and by myself. I don't have another newbie to kind of have that. Yeah, you trusted him. Yeah. So I think for me it was just a position of I don't know where my footing is. I do feel like everybody's distant.

It almost felt like what he was saying was aligning with everybody else's actions. Yeah. Even though they had no idea about it. And obviously watching it back too, they had, had no idea with this entire, I feel, like, game because he does come off like the goofy funny guy. Yeah. I feel like nobody understands like the entire thing that he was doing. But what he was doing was like completely made all the girls kind of have a wedge between us. And it worked because obviously I'm new and I don't know the camaraderie. Yeah. And obviously everybody... Did you feel like

you didn't have the girls like by your side? Like when you went out, like were you included with Paige Sierra and Amanda and Gabby and Lindsay I feel like we're more open to you is that? Yeah for sure Gabby and Lindsay but they weren't always there so Gabby wasn't there every weekend

and then obviously Lindsay's pregnant so she would be she was a home body yes so she was she was being a mom but the girls did seem like Amanda and Paige seemed like they liked you like they were nice to you yeah and I don't think that anybody was like being rude

or whatever I think that it just felt like there was a wall that couldn't be broken You know, like I felt like a guest for like sometimes. Then obviously I like, there was other times where I felt at home and whatever. But I think sometimes what Jesse was saying to me would just kind of like stick in my brain and because I am new and I am trying to figure everything out. And I am and I did trust him because we were dating. Of course you're going to trust the person that says he cares so much about you and is like making efforts and all this stuff. So I think that it was just difficult for me.

But I don't blame any of the girls for anything ever. Yeah. I mean, you did say that. So the last episode, before the finale, last week, you broke up with him on the balcony. Yes. You came in, like, ready to do it. You were done. I don't think that it's fair. If I had that feeling in my chest and I knew that it was going to happen, let's say we leave the house that happens Monday. I didn't think that it was fair for me to have him sleeping in my bed all weekend, for us to be kissing and holding hands all weekend. Because, again, it was a long weekend. We were there for four days straight. So for me to be. be like acting as a couple with him and then the next week break up with him off camera. I didn't ever really think it's on camera or off camera.

It was really just we hadn't seen each other. And that was my first opportunity to break up with him without feeling like I was leading him on all summer or like all weekend. Was the straw that broke the camels back really the 9 p.m. manicure? I think, okay, so that's so stupid. The 9 p.m. manicure. It is fucking hilarious. It's hilarious, but it's so dumb.

I think that the whole point was something so. silly. Yeah, you still didn't believe it. Yeah. Yeah. And it's like, come on. Like, that's for me to immediately be like, no, I don't trust this man. That sucked for me. And I think that that was a realization. Also, a lot of my friends were coming home from being away for the summer. And I was explaining my relationship and stuff. And I was like, what am I doing? Like, I don't trust this man. I don't, like, this is so not congruent with, I'm like known for being besties with all my exes. I think I choose like you I choose great men

That's why I'm still so close to so many of them Just because we break up It doesn't mean that they're not great They're just mean it's not for me But I want them to move on And have great relationships And thrive in life And I'm cheering them on

And so I think that For me just to have that like ickiness in my soul I was like this is not my guy Yeah And I even said I was like I think we should still move on Like be respectful

He's too sad to be honest, Lexi, watching it. Yeah. He seemed like like he took it well and accepted it. But his face, like, he was sad.

He was heartbroken, I think. Yeah. I felt like he was more like angry. You think he was angry? Yeah, because then for him to go and upstairs and again fabricate an entire that we had this conversation

at a dinner that it was never happened. Yeah. That's not how that conversation went at all. And then didn't he say like, what did he say to Sierra? that you don't like her. What did he say? Upstairs was a crate.

You're right. It was crazy. Convo was all about Sierra. Yes. Oh, she didn't like that we had a good time, he said. And that's not what happened. He, what happened was he went to the U.S. Open. By the way, was there.

I saw your stories. Is that crazy? I literally yesterday, you know how they put the date? Before they even showed the U.S. Open, I was like, oh my God, I saw them. And I was trying to remember I had just, like, given birth. So I was in the headspace. but I was trying to remember, but he called you because I remember him saying, yeah, there's a new girl and, like, we're kind of, I think he even said, like, we're kind

of like boyfriend girlfriend at that point. Yeah. So, and that was two days before. Yeah. So he went to the US Open to the US Open. So it was like the entire week. So he asked me to go on the Friday, but after like the house and everything. And I was really busy.

It was fashion week. And I was like, it will, he's like, I really, really want you to come. And I was like, okay, I'm going to, I'll make it because you really want me there. But it's going to be, like, hectic for me. Like, it's basically choosing, like, sleeping and eating or going to the U.S. open with you. So, like, just so you know, if there's any other day, it's I'm more free those days than that Friday specifically. He's like, no, no, no, it has to be Friday. So I was like, okay, you really want me there.

Of course, I'll be there. So then that weekend rolls around and he goes and he had an extra ticket that he gave to some friend of his, He said he wasn't even close with him. He said it was so last minute. Yeah, there was a random friend there. I couldn't confirm. Yeah, he's like, he's like, they gave me this ticket last minute. So I asked this, this friend that, like, I haven't caught up within years. And I was like, I was literally sitting at home in a robe. And I was like, I told you, like, that if there was any other day that you had a ticket, because you wanted me to go with you to the U.S. Open at all, that if you had another ticket another day, then that would have worked out better for

me because that Friday, I can't really make it. And then that's it. And then that's it. And then all I said about Sierra was... Wait, so I don't understand. He ended up not going on a Friday? I don't know. We broke up before that. But he ended up... Oh, you were broken up before the U.S. Open?

So we weren't broken up. So you know how the U.S. opens like a week? Sorry, this is like so confusing. It's like a week long. Right. So we ended up breaking up. Yeah. So it was the Sunday, I think.

And then there was like that next Friday or something. That's when you wanted to go. Yes. Or that's when he wanted you to go. Yes. But what does that have to do with the him and Sierra going? Because that day that he went with that random friend. He was like, oh, I guess I should have brought you since you're more available that day.

Oh. And then he said, oh, by the way, Sierra's here. And then he said, she's not being very nice to me. And it's making me like dislike her. And I was like, I'm so confused. All summer he was talking about Sierra. Wait, so just to clear up that. He invited to a U.S. Open day that was more, that was further away that was harder. And you're saying he ended up going on this day that you could have actually gone, except he brought a random friend. Yes. And Sierra was there. And he was texting you, telling you. Which, by the way, can also confirm, like, they were, they don't talk, but it seemed

like there was, like, attention. I want them to be friends. I want them to be, yeah, I always was cheering them on. But then I was like, oh, that would have been really nice, like, because then I could have seen Sierra, like, off camera. And then, like, we all could have kind of been there together. That's literally all of that. Did it feel like he was trying to maybe not have you get close?

Yes. Why? I don't know. That was his. brain. I think that he, from what I've kind of gathered of him, even after filming, and again, not only about the other girls in the house, I just feel like he always, he kind of likes pitting girls against each other as what I've gathered. I mean, the fact that he literally went upstairs and just said, like, she asked me why I went with you because she doesn't like you or like.

That's crazy. Yeah. And I really like, that breaks my heart because. Because you were good. You just had hugged her that morning. Yeah. Like there was obviously, again, a wall, but it wasn't only with her. It was with everyone. Yeah. So I really. really, really hated this whole narrative that it was like me and her against each other. I never felt that. I felt like that with so many people in the house, girls and guys. I didn't feel from what he was telling me about everyone, there was naturally just a wallup. And from what he was telling everyone, there was naturally a wall up, which makes sense as human behavior. So he was just kind of... But when he was saying about Sierra, like, that you didn't

want him to be friends with her because she's... rude to you and West. Like you looped in West to it. Yeah. Did that happen? Those were his words. And I was supporting him in his feelings because I'm not going to tell him that his feelings are wrong. That's what he was telling me all summer. Like he was saying maybe I shouldn't be friends with her because she's not nice to you and West. Yeah. He was just saying that like he was there was just like always a wall. And so I was like supporting him and his feelings. That's so crazy that you guys literally have like opposite stories. It's always opposite, which sucks. Which sucks, because it's like a he said, she said.

But he is getting the brunt of the, I mean, did you see his, do his TikTok's like, is he blocked? No, I don't follow him, so nothing really pops up for him on me. But on TikTok, like, it popped up for me on TikTok that he was walking down the street and he was like, I'm going to stop looking at the comments because, like, they're that bad. Yeah, it sucks for, yeah, I mean, it sucks because I've gotten specifically with this. like, girls against each other thing. It sucks because I don't even want to, like, mention her in interviews. One, because, like, she's asked me not to. And two, because it's never, like, in my heart, it's never been about me and her.

Yeah. And so it's like I almost, I don't want to talk about her. I don't want to bring her into mine and Jesse's drama. Right. But I feel like he made this narrative that revolves around me and her not, like, liking each other. Yeah. Which really is disheartening. Or, like, when she touched him at the...

Yeah, that's crazy. It was like, I'm not allowed to do that. That's where it all started, by the way. I feel like that was really the like when, because she was so thrown off and he was like, I'm not allowed to do that where she just lost it. He said all of these things. Like, oh, are we, like even the last episode, oh, were we allowed a boy's night? Oh, no, we're not.

Right. What? And wait, but also when he broke up with him, he said something like I, I abided by all the rules. They're not rules. This is what's so... Yeah, it sounds crazy. It sounds crazy. It sounds like you have like these rules and he's abiding and...

But that's, I feel like what he wanted it to seem like. He wanted it to seem like he was like... I was like he was stuck in something. And if anything, it was the opposite. But you can tell though how easily you break up with him that you're not this like... You know what I mean? Like you broke up with him twice. Both times you did it with like ease and chival.

in this. You weren't crying over it. No. You weren't taking it like that seriously. It seemed like he was more upset. Yeah. I felt like that's how it was all summer. Like, I honestly felt crazy. Like, I was like, I'm sorry.

I don't think ever putting down boundaries for what I'm looking for in a relationship is ever crazy. If that's not what you're looking for, awesome. What do you say to him and people saying, you're gas, like this is so confusing. You were gaslighting him into thinking he did something worse than he did. I really hope that he watches the season and sees his actions. And honestly, my biggest thing is I'm over it. Again, like what he said in that interview.

Yeah. It was six, it was nine months ago, whatever. I'm over him. I've moved on. Yeah. But I will never be over having people take accountability. I don't think that it's fair to treat anyone like that. I don't think that it's fair to spin things behind people's backs.

I think that it's really important to hold people accountable so they can grow. So I really genuinely hope that he watches the season back, sees what he did, self-reflex before he ends up in another relationship where he's doing the exact same patterns. Do you think it's immaturity? Like, would you chalk it up? By the way, he's 32, which is, should be like, you know, an age where you can act like a man and not like a boy. Yeah.

Do you think he's acting like a boy? Yeah. Yeah. I think that he's very entitled. And that's his prerogative now, though, right? It's not up to me. All I can do is answer questions when I'm asked. Other than that, he's not, I love everyone in the house. I think everyone, I would love to deepen my friendships with everyone in the house. I think that everyone is honestly really fun, really everything. But I do think that he needs a lot of growing up to do before I can even. even be his friend because I don't trust him. I don't like what he spins behind people's backs. And not only about me, he was just, he just did me on camera. He spins so much off camera. It was overload for my brain. Wow. About other cast members. Every, every single one of the cast members. Including West's best. Yes. Every single person and production. Wow. It just really sucked for me to be in that. But again, being new, I didn't know. I was like, maybe this is I'll work shit.

Okay, the reunion is going to be next week. Is there anything you want to tell people before? I think we have one more episode. Right, but this comes out. So I'm like talking on the future week. Yes, right. No, so wait, are you confused me? Okay, right.

So yeah, the reunion is next week, not this week. Yeah. So is there anything you'd want people to know pre-reunion? Jesse was kind of teasing some big bomb. Do you know what he's talking about? Is it not a big bomb? I might have asked Lindsay. I like texted Lindsay.

I was like, is there a big bomb? She's like, I don't know what he's talking about. I don't know what he's talking about either. Yeah. Yeah, I have no idea. You just don't know. And you filmed it already, so you should know. Yeah.

Not that you would have been able to tell me. But so obviously, I hate using the word regret, and we talked about it so much, but do you think what would you have done differently this summer aside from just the obvious of, like, not getting into anything with him? Yeah. But is there anything you regret more specifically? Yeah. I mean, I think that I regret listening to him so much.

I think that was definitely naive of me, which sucks in hindsight. But honestly, I'm really grateful because I do feel like everything I learned from. I mean, not grateful for him or that experience. But I think that this is such a rare opportunity to have to, like, watch yourself back and actually grow from it and learn from it. And I am really grateful for that opportunity to do. Yeah. So no regrets.

I think the only regret is probably just listening to him and whatever. Oh, I see. Yeah. Okay. Listening to him. Yeah. You get asked this everywhere. Yeah.

But you do, you've dated really hot people and really like, you know which one is my fave niche one because I love really niche it and not the obvious? Yeah. The Presley Gerber one. You guys were hot and heavy. Yeah. Oh, why is that niche? Because he's not like Brooklyn, you know what I mean?

Like not everyone is like super aware of him. Yeah. Or you guys, I feel like. Yeah. But you were hot and heavy. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Before face tattoo?

After. But he got it removed. Oh, you already got it removed? Yeah, yeah. Oh, I love him. Flips, flips just like me. But you did date Brooklyn Becca and Presley Gerber, rumors about Drake, which I wanted to say something about that because he did say on a podcast that he was, he kind of justified

his love bombing by saying he had to since you dated Drake. First of all, that was never his, my private life is never for him to comment. on. Yeah. That's not... Was he the first person to put that out there? No, I think like Andy mentioned it. No, first. Andy mentioned it from what Jesse said. Oh, really? So, yeah. So that's never Jesse's business to talk about me and my past and what, especially when it's not out there. Yeah. I thought that that was really offhand. And I also feel like to he's always trying to place blame on everything else and everyone else. Yeah, it doesn't even make sense. He never has to take accountability. But it's like, dude, you loved bombed me. Just say, you.

Yeah, I did. And honestly, he would probably... Well, I heard him say in a new podcast that he looked at the definition of love bombing and that it's, like, really hardcore. Like, it's not just being like, I love you, I love you, like... No, it is hardcore. It's like actually the act of gaining control. Yes. And I did feel like that.

Okay. So you felt like, you're like, yeah, looked up the definition. I also looked up the definition and he did every single, he ticked off every single box. Wow. Was that your first time experiencing somebody doing this? Yeah. Was he your first, like... like normie since he became a model?

No. No, you're laughing. No, I've dated like, yeah. He would be offended at the normie. He'd be like, I am a reality TV star ma'am. Seriously. Yeah. The ego is crazy.

Did he feel like he was loving this life, though, of like being known from a show and? Well, he's, he's, even with all the hate, he said he loves it. I think somebody sent to me on the Chicks in the Office podcast, he said the more hate he gets that boosts his algorithms of keep going. That's why it's kind of awful. First of all that, that's an ick. Wait, how funny was it when Kyle didn't know what an ache was? Did you watch that episode?

It's hilarious. Wait, I couldn't believe it. Hilarious. But did they, that's not what you said, though. You didn't say I'm breaking up with him because of the ick. I feel like that was also. No. Amanda asked me, she said, I think she was like, did you get the it? And I was like, yeah, I guess.

Like, if I want to break up with him, then I guess. Yeah, you were over it. Yeah. That's what I was trying to say. It wasn't like you were like, I love you, but this is, I can't do it. You were kind of like, all of this shit caused me to not be into you anymore and not want to do this. Which I think it would cause anyone not to trust him. And it's funny because I think even with the whole jealous conversation, that's not how, like, I wasn't saying like, oh, I'm so jealous.

I was saying, if you give me reasons to be jealous, I'm just, I'm like everybody else. I will pick up those reasons and I will have those feelings. But that being said, I don't think when somebody's purposely trying to make you feel jealous, I don't think that that makes you like a distrustful person because I trust everyone as soon as I meet them until honestly, you're Canadian, you're the nicest kind of, like, you're the nicest kind of person. Yeah, like everybody's so lovely. Guys, we can just chill.

Like, there doesn't have to be crazy things. So, yeah, he single-handedly, like, took my trust. And this was such a foreign feeling for me. Wait, you know what I'm thinking now? Remember how you said he likes to pick girls? girls against each other. Yeah. So he unwatched What Happens Live, because you went on Watch What Happens Live with Tinks,

he was an influencer and she has a podcast. He said, on Watch What Amids Live, somebody called in and asked if he saw or knows why it was awkward between you and Tinks. And then Andy was like, I didn't notice. And did you? And Jesse was like, yeah, well, it wasn't Kumbaya. I, like, went into her dressing room before. I was like, oh, my God, hey, so excited.

Like, I... So you were fine. Yeah. Like, I didn't think. I think, didn't he say, too, that, because somebody, I just see, like, little blurps that people like will DM me, but I didn't watch the entire episode, but didn't he say that they talked about it on her podcast? I thought so that's how I went back to check.

Did it work, babe? I didn't hear that part. I think, I don't think they talked about that. She was saying to him what she said to you, which was that you weren't a match. So she, they didn't talk about that. But also, that's weird for him to be like, oh, yeah, we talked about how awkward it was on and they didn't. This is what I mean.

he like he like unless they cut it out unless they cut it out I guess but I'm like but he wouldn't give her that like I'm telling you that's probably maybe chicks in the office he did that and I agree he didn't look great in it the clips that I saw weren't great for him maybe that's because he wouldn't she he he he barely wanted to talk about it and he was acting very like I'm not going to talk about this like let's move on I was like what do you want to talk about your acting career I mean singing I flipped I flipped you guys I was I'm just, the thing is, like, I can accept bad behavior as a viewer. It's more like, how are you handling that? Yeah. And if you're handling it in this, like, it's the non-accountability, the non-accountability and the, like, you know, and I'm saying, bravo people, don't kill him. He doesn't deserve, you know, death row, okay? But it would be nice.

First of all, like, stop smiling. It's not funny. You know, like, let's start. If I was with him, I'd be like, just like, answer the question, no smile, no smile. Because it's not funny. It's not like, yeah, when he broke up, it was crazy. It's weird. I just think accountability is such an important thing, especially as adults.

I think that we have the comprehension that, like, you hurt somebody's feelings, whether you agree with it or not, take accountability for another human being. And honestly, like, if anybody on the cast or anyone ever said to me, like, hey, that hurt my feelings, immediately you're getting an apology. And I'm going to reflect, learn from that, and then change that. Because your feelings mean something to me. Whether you're my best friend or not, your feelings mean something to me.

And I think accountability is amazing. He just doesn't know how to activate that. Tinks also tried to ask him how you would feel if you came back next summer. And he was like, next question. What do you say to that? To having to live together again? I mean, listen, Carl and Lindsay live together. Yeah.

Could you handle it? I think for me, like he's just somebody that I, I don't trust. And I feel very indifferent about him. The harshest kind of feeling. Yeah. And I think especially it's hard because obviously we're doing all this press and everything. And because I'm new, it really was like my, like the entire summer.

We filmed stuff, but sometimes it doesn't like fully make it in. Well, thank God for you. There would be no other interesting stuff going on. Like, I'm sorry you lived this. But like, that was the most interesting storyline this summer. So you're saying you could be there and indifferent to him. I don't think he could be indifferent to you. Well, then that's on him.

Yeah. Because, and I'm the one that Gama, like, was wronged. Like, he, I never did anything to him other than answering questions. That's crazy. No, that's crazy. But other than answering questions that I'm asked in interviews while the season is airing, which is normal. Which is normal for even, like, when people, you know, are best friends with each other or, you know, you all have to talk about each other. But that being said, yeah, I'm indifferent to him.

I think that I will always hold anyone accountable for poor behavior because hopefully they can grow from it. Do I trust him? No. Do I want to be alone in a room and having a conversation with him? No, because he lies everywhere or flips a story. I don't think he would also not be able to, like, touch you. I feel like he would just, I feel like he was so attracted to you. That's what it seemed like.

He was so into you physically, too. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah, for me, I just feel very indifferent for him. Like, your heart wouldn't drop if you saw him somewhere. No. Like, the way you would see, like, an ex. I probably wouldn't even recognize him.

Oh, stop. Lexi would recognize you know what he looks like. No, I mean, I mean more like, I wouldn't. Yeah, like it wouldn't have that recognition of like, oh, like that, like that, like that, like that, like heart sinking, you're my ex. Like, oh, my God, I'm running to you. Like, I wouldn't have that. You wouldn't have that. I think that he just has done.

so much, even after the summer. Yeah. Like, liking hate comments about me and, like, just doing things that are, to me, just below the belt. Yeah. Taking before I was even, like, really an official cast member, like, it was announced. He was just spinning narratives online. Like, he posted a video of him getting a manicure, again, pinning girls against each other.

To me, it's all 100% on him, no one else, period. Yeah. And I just don't like that energy. Yeah. That's not somebody that I enjoy it. You said that you would love to deepen your relationship with the girls because it didn't get an opportunity. And you also said that Sierra asked you not to really talk about her in interviews, which I'd want to respect because I also want you guys to be good. Yeah.

But I did see an interview of hers pop up for me. And she said when asked if you would come back, she's like, great, I don't care if she does that. I don't care if she doesn't. Like seeing stuff like that, like it's just, it's a little. hurtful, no? Yeah, for sure. I think, again, I think it's hard because there was so many misunderstandings and so many confusions and so many. Like if she's being told Lexi doesn't like you, she doesn't want us to hang out, she hates that we had fun. Like, obviously, she's going to feel some type of way. Exactly. And I totally, yeah, I totally understand that. And you think you can

request that if you come back to the house? Yeah, I know that I will always take accountability if there's something that I did to hurt her. Yeah. And I do really value my female friendships and growing them and deepening them. So I would, I've always said, like, she has a friend in me when she wants it. So you're down to come back in the summer. Wait. It'd be filming soon.

Yeah. It's like, you guys, see me? I'm like a little peacock. Wait, what's going on? No, because you guys, I can't forget. Like, I don't know. I'm wearing a sweater. Like, I don't know.

Are we in summer? Where are we? So it would have, you guys usually start like July 4th weekend, I feel. Yeah. So you can't tell us if you know. Yeah. But you, if you are asked, you would go. I think that I just want to kind of like see how the rest of the season plays out

because surprisingly there's still a lot of season left. No, there's not. Yeah. Well, with the reunion and with everything. With everything. So, yeah. We will see. Okay.

Before we get into a quick one game before you go. Yes. People are talking about your, aside from her gorgeous face, people are dying over your lips. Have you seen stuff like that? on like TikTok. They want, they're very, like, interested in what you're doing. It's like a different vibe, I guess, than people are used to. On my lips? Yeah. I think today, unfortunately, I went back to the OG lip routine that I was doing. It's so funny. What are they talking about? This is a controversial topic. Like, is it like a Kylie Jenner thick lip liner situation? I have, I genuinely

just use, like, iconic nude by Charlotte Tilbury lip liner, a platinum lipstick by Lawless, or I'll switch it up to, like, a hot gossip by Charlotte Tilrey liner. I mainly switched up to either, like, the Moves or the Browns. They, everybody, it's either like you love them or you hate them. But have you gotten them done or are they your lips? No, they're my lips. I've never gotten any plastic surgery. No Botox, no fillers.

No Botox? No. Go like this. All right. Will you? I am wearing a really tight pony today. No, I don't think. I feel like I've just seen my mom and my nana and everybody aged.

so gracefully. And your mom hasn't gotten anything. Well, you have amazing skin. And you're so young, you're 27. Yeah. You don't need anything. Yeah. I'm just like, look it.

Who knows, maybe one day I'll change my mind. And then I would gladly tell every single person, every little detail that I got. Yeah, because you would get asked. Yeah, I'm not a gatekeeper. Yeah. Okay. We're going to play one game. Swipe right or left on these Bravo boys.

Okay. Shep from Southern Charm. Left, because he's dated. He was with Sienna. And a bunch of other girls. I feel like any guy that, okay, we'll continue because I feel like it's going to be like a lot of lefts.

Oh, okay. Austin from... Left. He dated Sierra and... Oh, right. That would be bad. Okay. Craig. Left. He dated Paige. Okay. Thomas Sandhaal. Left.

Schwartz. Left. He's having such a cue moment, though. He is. I'm sorry. I just feel like anybody that's dated a girl, especially in like this Why? You're scared to go there. No, it's not that I'm scared to go there.

They just immediately are just like a brother to me. Like, in my brain, if you've dated anyone that I know or I might know or a friend of a friend or whatever, I'm just like, uh, uh, uh, you're immediately like a rat. So Carl, no, because of Lindsay. No, Lindsay. West? No, Cassiera. What if, what if West, would West be somebody you would get a drink with if you didn't meet him on Summer House? I mean, he has good style.

I think everybody sees that, but probably not. Probably not. I'm sorry. Left. Left. Or Emerald. I know. He's so sweet.

Just getting like cut out of everywhere. He is a sweet guy. Yeah. Which sucks. Which sucks for him. Yeah. Okay. Does any Bravo guy ever have a chance?

I'm trying to think of one. Not that I know of. Yeah. And I think honestly. Better. Yeah. So what kind of guy are you looking for? Are you single?

Are you dating? I'm dating in general. I am just dating. Yeah. I think what I'm looking for is just somebody that's driven, somebody that has their own thing going on. Yeah. So that they don't need to see me 24-7.

Somebody that is funny. Somebody that's really silly because I love being just silly and lighthearted. I feel like life is so hectic and heavy sometimes. It's just important to have your person be a light weight. Yeah. Somebody that's close to their family. wants to be close to my family, of course, and I want to be close to their family.

I just grew up with, like, my dad even, like, getting lunch with my mom's parents when my mom isn't even there, so I just have that mindset from how I was raised. Are you into, like, older, your age? I would go maybe, like, 25. Really? Yeah, like two years younger than me.

That's how old some of my exes are. Oh, right. And then maybe to, like... And your exes seem like they're very, like, know how to love a lady like I mean Brooklyn is already married I feel like there are you that type person like would you get married if you found

your person out? Yeah 100% 100% I think that yeah I can't wait to be married one day and just like have my person and be so happy and have kids and you're such a cutie let's see what everybody thank you for coming thank you so much for having you're the sweetest nobody ever heard her again okay

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