Not Skinny But Not Fat - Love is Blind Sight Unseen & Perez Hilton's Here!

Episode Date: March 10, 2020

Can anyone else not stand to hear that sentence from Vanessa Lachey’s mouth again? Thank god we don’t have to and the trending Netflix show “Love is Blind” has wrapped up (it’s first season of many probably) and Arielle is here to help me dissect it all, including the reunion! We recap the Bachelor, talk VPR season 8, RHONJ reunion part I of 3, and we have a surprise visit by celeb gossip pioneer, Perez Hilton, who spills the MF tea. Ok never using that phrase again.  This episode was brought to you by: Native is an aluminum and paraben free deodorant with over 5,000 five star reviews. For 20% off you first purchase, visit nativedeodorant.com and enter promo code “NSBNF” during checkout. Collagen For Her is the first collagen powder created specifically for women. It dissolves instantly, doesn't clump up, and has no taste at all, so it's so easy to add to coffee, tea, or smoothies. If you want to try it out, head to CollagenForHer.com and you can use the code "NOTSKINNY" to get 10% off your order!  Betterhelp is an online counseling platform for you. Listeners will receive 10% off their first month by heading to betterhelp.com/notskinny today. Get help on your own time and pace. The Not Skinny But Not Fat Podcast is produced by The Podglomerate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

She doesn't have to take care of her hair at the same way. Are you going through a stroke? Why? I don't know. I'm not sure that was like English. She'd not go through what they went. Like, I don't even know what you're saying. Oh my God. Stop.

Okay. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. And I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny, but Not. Not fat. Okay, you guys, today, Ciciger, Ariel, is back with actually contributing nothing. Just kidding.

We recap, review, gossip, talk shit about our favorite reality shows, our favorite celebrities, per Yugi. I also have a mini interview that I'm going to add at the end of this episode with Mr. The Man, the Sometimes Died Beard, the, you know, celebrity gossip. pioneer of doodling on their faces and talking the most shit and breaking and spilling the news, the tea, the one, the only. Perez Hilton, everybody. So stay tuned for the end of the episode to hear that little titty-bitty. We have lots to talk about.

I'm so excited. Love is Blind. We'll start with that. For those of you who live under a G.D. Rock, Love is Blind. is Netflix's number one trending show. It was a three-week event hosted by the Liches, Nick and Vanessa, basically a group of Atlanta singles, males, females, meeting behind walls in these little pods and not getting to see each other,

basically forming these relationships, not knowing what the other person looks like, having to propose, if you want to, at the end of these like little speed dating thingies. and people got engaged, people got married, people fell in love, blind. Is love blind sight unseen? Sometimes, I don't know. If you didn't watch it, go fucking watch it. Be like the rest of the world who knows what I'm talking about. I tried to do my best to like binge, like a normal person binges and finish it in time.

But I really suck at binging. But you were actually really good with love is blind. I know, but I still didn't make it on time. And in Mortimer, I was, like, depressed those days. You were a few days late. I was a few days late, but I wanted to be, like, right on time. Even though it didn't matter because it wasn't, like, shell shocking, like, endings. The couples we ended up with that actually got married are Cameron and Lauren and Amber and Barnett.

And G. and Damien are still together. Right, but I'm saying we got married. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Damien is a psycho killer. Why do you think that? That's what I think. What? He gets so angry,

he doesn't get angry. He stays calm. Have you seen him yell at all? It's passive. It's passive. I'm telling you. No, but I actually, he's very emotional. You like it?

I don't mind him. I don't have like strong feelings about him. Listen, I think we owe an apology to G. Since everyone said she was an actor. She is. But she's still with Damien. No, maybe she like fell in love with him. But like, did you remember?

like in the wedding, the speech that she gave, like that, where did that come from? No, she, like, acted like she was on a telenovela, the entire, like, thing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. She's an actress. You know why I said, don't say the sex is amazing. Ha, Damien. Do you ever wonder? And I lost the butterflies in my stomach.

Like, what did she say? And I'm still searching. Like, she had lines that, like, that's the way an episode of a tel novella would end. That's what I'm saying. Like, and I have a twin sister who is actually me. Like that's her vibe But it's surprising Because like she might have that personality

That's like attention seeking Like wanting to shine Like be over dramatic But I guess their relationship was real Because she could have like not dated Damien I'm sure guys slid into her fucking DMs Like she's hot No she like I'm saying

Like she probably really like Damien But she also acted the whole thing out Yeah she acted the whole thing out But she's also very dramatic Did you see her mom? Yeah like me lady she comes from like a very dramatic woman who like made the whole wedding about her I can't she was like you should have said no first and not been a loser like she was so

but that's I think a part of the show that from the beginning I didn't like that like it's like we're going to force all the couples to go down the aisle and like humiliate the other person but I think from what I understood at the reunion and and through their interviews post reunion and everything most couples like talked before like what they're going to do yeah and i think that once netflix chose the couples that they were going to air like after that wedding if they wanted to leave uh they wouldn't let them leave just because like they chose they wanted to have them on the show so like two less people would be like harder like is is worse for entertainment you know what i mean like you need everybody to be there but don't you think they finished filming all the couples and then

I don't get what you're saying. I'm saying that, like, there were specific amount of couples that went to Mexico and were in the same hotel and those are the people that they chose to film. Oh, you don't think

other couples went to the hotel? No. They just were on the pods and got engaged. Yeah. And they weren't even sent to Mexico? No, didn't you read that one couple went to, like, Florida or something?

Oh, right. Rory. Yeah, yeah. I think, like, the people that were in Mexico were filmed. But then, you know what the exception is is stupid Carlton and Diamond. Which, like, she's not stupid.

He's stupid. No, but there was no way that they were going to force those two to, like, go through with the whole thing. First of all, he's, like, insane. I heard he's, like, posting, like, suicidal things. Listen, it's really hard, like... No, but I want to put two things separate. The fact that he's, like, by or whatever, fine. Like, we don't care.

We accept you. The fact that you withheld information is, like, not telling someone you have kids until after she says yes, an engagement. Like, you should have said it. But I'm not even talking about those things. I'm saying he was acting. like a dick like there was carlton in the pods as they say yeah who was like baby baby i love you like amazing and there was carlton in real life who was like yo yo like hat backwards like being a dick to her

like even before and i feel like she reacted to him he was being a giant dick he obviously has mad issues he's obviously very insecure very unsure of who he is very like pretending to be like out and and accepting himself but he's really not accepting himself yet yeah and the fact that he like proposed on the reunion to be like friend did you get that i didn't understand that at all was that and diamond i feel like was like she didn't even want to put the ring on she was like that's what i'm saying i think that she was like i'll look like a because she's getting like death threats she's getting so she probably was like if i say no i'll look like a dick yeah but at the same time what am i putting a ring on for like for being cool with each other like i need to put an engagement ring but even

if they were even if he was like can we just be cool but like you put a ring on her finger for being cool. It made no sense. I like rather think that it's like his weirdness and not like production because then you're like what was production thinking? Like giving him the ring back to do that. It was just like so weird. And he was very disturbing to me in the reunion. I really like Diamond. I feel like she like she's getting a PhD girl. Yeah. No, I know. But I'm saying in terms of like also like she held herself together like she was totally cool. Yeah. And it was just. just like he was and she and also i'm team diamond like she wasn't gonna be like then i can't marry you she was just like wait give me a minute yeah to like process this process this and also process the fact

that you did withhold information and that's kind of not cool to save something so critical for after you get married yeah or engaged or whatever and she just wanted to have a conversation and he got very very very defensive very very very quickly very very aggressive very very very quickly and like no he it was not a good look and that doesn't mean that he should be accepted for who he is for who he loves for he has loved that's not the point

another person that got a lot of hate was Jessica and you and I actually like agreed on this from the beginning like I think Jessica got a very bad edit on the show I think she over drank and was stupid when she did

I think she fell in love with Barnett going to end up with him he hurt her soul and like crushed her to like you can't take back the fact that he said like jessica's my number one and then in the pod said like i'll marry you tomorrow like you say that and then you do something else of course the other person is going to have feelings about it and she was obsessed with him like she really was so funny that she asked him that day because i remember watching it and her being like do you still feel like what you felt yesterday and i was like why is she even asking that like of course he does it's been a day right you know and then he's like

No. Right. So my thing, and I told you this this morning, is like, I don't agree with the amount of hate you out. Like, people are calling her age difference for, like, the 10 year difference with, uh, age difference with Mark bothering her. Like, no, she's 35 years old. She wants to, she has different goals. She has different things that she wants in life at a different pace because of her age. So a 24 year old who hasn't finished training, like I don't, like, excuse me, if I want to.

a TV show and I was like, I don't want to be with someone. I'm successful. I don't want to date someone who hasn't even finished studying what he wants to do. So he's like, now making money. That's okay. I'm allowed. She's allowed to. Any reason for her not to want to be with Mark, she's allowed to have, like, people can't tell her. And like Mark got such a good edit. And I'm sure that it was an overly good edit. It's an overly good edit. Because then we heard that, yeah, like, had a girlfriend before or something. But I'm sure he's like a 24 year old and like Cameron is the only one that's like that's abnormal.

He's actually a man that's like dreamt of his wedding day, dreamt of proposing, bought a house for his like future babies. That's like for real one in a million. That's why people are obsessed with him. Yeah. But Mark isn't. And remember when we talked about Jessica's one of her confessionals, she made total sense. And she was like, the fact that he's not.

concerned makes it like unbelievable like she was like he's like you want to have babies tomorrow yes you want to get married tomorrow yes yeah like you have to think about things like what do what babies do you have a job can you support us like what are we going to do like she didn't even say that but i was thinking that he just he didn't even hear her like he didn't listen to the question he just said yes because like i think for him he was smart and he like wanted to continue on the show and have as much airtime as possible so that meant pretending like jessica is literally like the queen of his life and then he was like on the show and got a really good rep got a lot of followers out of it and he knew what he was doing did you see that he like celebrated getting

verified yeah he knew what he was doing he knew what he was doing it wasn't for jessica you have to understand people that go on reality tv today are savvy the way that like today were internet savvy were you know all these things people that go on reality shows know they're going on a reality show it doesn't mean they can't fall in love like damien and and gee like but they also know the things that can come out of it they also know that they want those opportunities they also know they'll get a lot of followers they also know it can change their lives like let's put it this way the main reason they go in the reality show is to get the fame out of it and if they fall in love while they're on there great they're going to get the followers to get the verification the blue check to get opportunities

Cameron wasn't like what the fuck is Cameron going to do with the 850K followers like he's a scientist like what is he going to do like advertise Brooklyn in no so they got maybe one person who like actually went to find love and probably was having a hard time on the outside but like he had such a glow up he had the biggest glow up of the whole cast he looks so amazing like style change did he get a fucking stylist or is Lauren like his stylist I guess Lauren is style he got buff A F he's legit like the whole cast he looks so amazing like style he got buff A F he's legit like the whole guy he's the Hulk. He, like, abs. I, I was, like, shocked when I saw him and there are pictures of them all over, like, pop pictures. And you're like, you're like, is that the same person? I was kind of shook because, like, don't you remember at the beginning you told me I'm looking, Arielle loves looking at their Instagrams? I don't get, like, so swept up until, like, the end. Arielle checks out people's Instagrams, like, the first episode. And they were at, like, nothing. Nothing. Nobody knew them. They were at nothing. It's one of those things. So yesterday I was doing this podcast with this girl who's who's a single like 30 year old let's say and I told her I don't get the Cameron like

following like I get that he was sweet member like I get it he's so sweet but like and she was like oh my god I'm obsessed with Cameron like I want to be like break up with Lauren be my and I was like okay that's who's following him like all these women that are like enamored by the fact that a man like that exists like you thought that was creepy because it almost doesn't make sense for a man to be so emotionally available so ready for intimacy so like you know ready for everything ready for fucking everything that it almost makes it like creepy yeah but for women that are searching for that and can't even get a second date like in the single life that's like oh that's like yeah yeah yeah so but again like i don't get you know the almost Lauren has one million

I know I was going to say that and can I just be honest for one second was When it came to their parts on Love is Blind, I just fast forwarded it. I legit fast forwarded it because, like, I get it. They're in love. They're so cute. But it wasn't interesting. Like Amber and Barnett were a lot more interesting because, like, you didn't know what

was happening there. They're both crazy as fuck. But Lauren and Cameron are so, like, chill. It was kind of boring to watch their scenes. It was like, I'm so loving in love with you. I'm so in love with you. Are you ready for this? What's happening?

You're going to mean my dad. But didn't it seem like Lauren because she was like so cool and like, you know, outspoken, whatever that she would at some point also be like, whoa, like chillax dude. Like it surprised me. But they were both. She was so accepting of his like over love, you know? I think she was there too. Like they were both into it. He brought her to his house.

She was like, damn, like I want to live here. It was kind of beautiful because she was living in like a studio with a studio. with a studio inside her studio. I think her, like, LinkedIn says she's like a model on things. Well, she definitely was in it not to find love, but found Cameron. Yeah.

So, and gained a million followers. But, like, that's, I mean, it's the same thing as the bachelor and not, like, that they're as thirsty because I'm sure these people didn't even know what this was going to be. Right. You know, you can never know.

It could be a flop. It can, whatever. They didn't know what it was going to be, but it was a chance to be on a Netflix show. It's not like, oh, I'm going to be on like a random Listen, it's the same thing And we'll do a just a quick little Droplet. It's the same thing as like

We want to send our mom on Bachelor for seniors And like, what do you mean we want to send her? You filled out an application. I still got a 70 question application. And like if any of y'all listening Like know the casting people like I filled it out terribly because the way I do things is like quick and stupid.

Yeah. Also like I didn't tell mom but I, like, spilled her life beans there. You did? Yeah. I thought you did it quickly and you didn't answer some questions. No, but I answered, like, truthfully. I can't. That's so funny, but, like, we need her on the show.

Like, if mom gets accepted to Bachelor's seniors. But she doesn't, she, first of all, I don't think it's going to be Bachelor seniors. I think it's going to be a senior dating show. That's what it's going to be. I don't think it's going to be, like, the Bachelor, like the Mansion and all that shit. I don't think it's going to be that. They're going to, they're passing seniors, all ages. It's not.

like one male senior with like 50 30 no right that's what I'm saying I think it's going to be a different format for a dating show for sure my mom is very like hesitant very doesn't want to but I'm saying obviously like I don't we don't want her in it for fame no no but like I'm just thinking like good peeps are going to show up and like this is a chance I know but she's what is better online dating or she's not doing either which she's not doing either but like if she gets on bachelor seniors were getting her on that plane like if i have to fly to lay myself with her like i will have to kidnap her and like whatever but so yeah so we cross fingers that she'll like get on which i like don't get why not she's like super hot super successful super everything she's related to me and like

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Are we going to, what, Kelly and Kenny? No, the only thing I wanted to say about Kelly. I know, but the only thing I wanted to say about Kelly is that she cleared. like really upset with herself about Kenny and she literally dropped something like I'm so happy for you but like I wish we could have continued after the show but like I was like bitch like you skipped out of the like chapel she couldn't wait not to marry him yeah like I remember she was like no bye and like I literally think she like skipped like down the aisle out and what was so

funny was like her mom literally being like I'm gonna disown this bitch like like when her sister and her sister was like Kelly makes all the decisions and Kenny is so great like it literally felt like her entire family was like here Kelly goes again fucking up anything good in her life but legit and at the reception after she dumped him and he said this like beautiful speech don't you remember they showed the mom going to her to her husband to her husband and being like he's such a great guy he's the best like they all loved him I'm telling you they literally I feel like the reason she surprises their family's like you're the worst like what so you like didn't orgasm like figure your shit out Kelly they never had sex what do you mean but she don't you remember she's like I was talking about like not orgasming and like then it's like obviously you have issues with it you know it's your own issue it's not his issue you didn't give him a chance she never gave him a chance and now she's like and also like excuse you Kelly who do you think you are Kenny's cute and you're kind of on the same level of cuteness yeah I mean Kenny is a catch I think he has like a good job.

He has a good job. He's good looking. He's very nice. He's like, he's a catch. She was like, he reminds me of my dad. Like, and who do you think you are? Like, Giselle? Yeah, I don't understand.

She legit thinks she's like, literally Giselle. Which like we're all like, we're into like, you know, self confidence. But obviously like there are some people that are single and, you know, like people like for a reason or not for a reason because of a reason. One last thing. Kelly and Jessica have known each other for 10 years. I heard, I mean, I read that they were all kind of in the same circle or something. Oh, okay. Yeah. And they're all from Atlanta. So it was like an Atlanta-based show. I like that. I like that because that means that Netflix, either, I mean, this could have been done for like logistics. But I think that that's giving them a really fair shot from the beginning.

Yeah. You come to The Bachelor. One person's from Wyoming. One person's from, you know, like. They all end up moving to, like, L.A. anyway. Right. But I'm just saying, like, this makes it much easier. Like, you don't have to quit your job. They didn't even have to quit their job for filming. They went. They worked?

They worked. They worked, I think. Unless they were in the pods in Mexico, they worked. Well, it was also a 10-day thing. Like, we think it's long, but it was 10 days. It was a 10-day thing. So even if they missed work, they didn't miss three months. No.

So it was very good for, like, working people. It was a very good, like I'm saying, if I was single in Atlanta, I'd be like why not like you know what I mean imagine filming something for 10 days having it be the trending show on Netflix like nobody has not watched love is blind yeah everyone's talking about love is blind it's gonna continue I'm so excited for all the seasons you really are are you not you not I mean like no and you know what I guess it'll continue not only in Atlanta though they might come to New York City like they might yeah they might do it in other places yeah I am excited I foresee Amber and Burnett not lasting hell no not

going to last. She was like, and I, you know, called a divorce lawyer. And I would, no, but I have a question. Did anyone ask you? Why would you share that? No, I don't know. Why would you share it? Like, first of all, if I was Barnett, if I was Burnett, I would like crawl inside my skin. Like, why? What do you mean? I would crawl into my skin, like, the whole time she ever talks. Why would you share that? Nobody needs to know you called the divorce lawyer. And like, he should be calling the divorce lawyer. He didn't even speak yesterday. yesterday. I was like last night when I was with him. He didn't even speak on the reunion. Like she literally is so much. But when she has moments, she has moments where I'm

like, oh, you're like a person. Yeah. And you speak well. And she knows that to explain herself. But most of the time she's making that like idiot face, which I don't get. And like, I don't know. And then when he said like, oh, we just have a lot of fun. Like we don't fight. And then like two seconds later, they're like, we're so hotheaded both of us that when we like argue about the smallest thing it's like a huge deal because we're so stubborn both i just the whole thing was cringe worthy for me i feel like you know it can't last they're not gonna last they're not gonna last the way she spoke about like being financially dependent on him like you've known him for 10 days please don't be financially dependent on him yet but it's been a year now it's been a year yeah more than a

you true more than a year or a year but she's like a cocktail waitress and um so my followers told me she did a live and she said in the live that she is getting her license for something, but she didn't say for what. So maybe she'll, I would guess like an aesthetician or something. Yeah, maybe. Like microblading. Laser treatment. Is that it for Love is Blind?

I think we've covered it all. Okay. So I want to move on to The Bachelor. Bachelor Nation say what? Oh my God, no way. Oh, oh, oh my God. Bachelor, which is coming up to a two-night finale episode. I'm so excited for this season to be over.

Oh, the finale was last night. This comes out Tuesday. But let's talk just a little bit about the women tell all. So I feel like I'm really into Kelsey. Wait, can we first let's talk about why would they make it like half an episode, half a women tell all? They had to finish the rose ceremony. That's why. Yeah, which was aviosa.

Like obviously, didn't I tell you weeks ago he wanted to bone Vanessa and he's going to get rid of her after? I knew it. I know. I think everyone knew it. But he kept Maddie. Of course. Of course. And Hannah Ann. And then Maddie, like, don't you remember when he, like, offered the rose? Like, they made like a dramatic pause, like as if she's showing up and not accepting her rose. Like, that's what I'm saying. Even though it was like the most dramatic moment of the season, it was boring. Like it was a snooze fest. I wanted to like fast forward the moments of like silence slash like forced. tension like no tension just show us who the fuck like you're giving it to so we can know and also the bloopers i've never seen such boring bloopers on a bachelor show like usually they're so funny i was like this isn't even funny this is not funny usually bloopers their bloopers are hilarious but i am so excited to see because like chris harrison did say even peter doesn't know how this season ends that's a big thing to say that's saying that there's no ending yet No, I feel like that's saying it's like just a different format.

No, that means that at the end of the show, Peter knows who he's with right now. Peter is aware of his life. Maybe he's going to propose to someone. That's what I'm saying. I think that they're changing the format. Like he left with no one and then something happened post show. And so nobody knows what's happening.

Well, my favorite part of the women toll is when they bring out all the people no one cares about. Marissa. Who? Like, that's my favorite story to do because it's like, How embarrassing. Nobody knows. I literally wouldn't come. You know what I mean?

If I was eliminated week one, like, why would I come? Because they're inviting you. And if somebody's inviting you, then you go. Especially ABC. Okay. I go. Kelsey, you love her? Some people think she's like legit a Looney bin.

I like her. I feel like she was saying, you know, she was being. She was like, oh my God, of course I was overdramatic. Of course I was drunk. Like, I'm not trying to justify that I was like a freak. And then who came after her, which is like she's saying you're like you're right. Like stop like coming at her. Was it?

Who was it? Tammy? Yeah, maybe Tammy. Oh, Tammy's like trying to shine. Yeah. But like she was like, I'm saying I was drunk and emotional and like you don't have to keep telling me like what I was doing was bad. Like I know.

What about Victoria F who changed nail polish? What do you mean who changed nail polish? I didn't get that. Oh, you don't get it? No. Because she cried so much and, like, William Darryneers that, like,

I noticed her white nail polished the entire season. Yeah. She was always like this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, wiping her tears. So it was red this time. Oh, it was red?

Yeah. And her, like, fake eyelashes that, like, really looked fake. Oh, I didn't notice that. Amanda, what's happening today? I don't know. I'm sorry. Oh, my God.

But she seemed genuine. She seemed like she might be regretting some shit. Yeah, I feel like, and she was really, really emotional. Like she was, it was really hard for her. And I'm sure she's regretting shit. I mean, just think about how much hate these people get. Like, it is a really hard thing. But also probably love.

They get love, but I'm saying like, oh yeah, they brought out Rachel Lindsay. That was kind of a weird segment to talk about like hate online. And she just like read a bunch of really hateful things, which obviously is super sad. It sucks that there are people out there, you know, that are trolls, but not even like. like trolls that are saying like, you know, small mean things. These are trolls that are telling you to go kill yourself. Like that's not normal that these kinds of people even fucking exist. And I mean, those are the people that need to be, you know, disabled on Instagram.

Like those are the people Instagram needs to take measures against, you know, not nipples and shit like that. Yeah. But basically, that's really all I have to say about the women to all. I know. It wasn't so interesting. What do you think about the new bachelorette, Claire Crawley? Well, I mean, like after some thought and consideration, I do think that it might be an interesting season. A, because Claire is, like, not boring. Like, she's kind of crazy.

You know her? Like I've seen her. We saw her on winter games. Yeah. And I feel like when she gets on these shows, like she's going to be emotional. She's 38. I love that. She's 38.

I'm sure she's looking for a husband. Like we know she's. I'm so excited for 40-year-olds. I'm so excited for Ari's that have jobs and homes. If they do that, then I'm going to be like one of those people. Then I'm not watching. They're not going to bring 24-year-olds, babe. Of course they are.

She's not going to marry a 24-year-old. They're still going to bring them. You think they're not going to be 38 to 45-year-olds? How old is Ari and how old is Lauren? But that's different, babe. I know, but they're still going to bring out 24-year-olds, I really hope they're going to bring... And I'm telling you, Claire is not going to care that they're 24. She was going to marry Benoit.

She's not going to care that they're 24. Ben-W was not 40. It's not going to be like a Jessica situation. She's going to want to be like a Courtney and Eunice. Okay, that is a really good transition. Let's talk about my used to be favorite family. Now I'm having issues. The Kardashians.

jealous. Enough. Enough. That's it. We're done. They're going to be back on screen, end of March, so excited. Obviously, going to watch. I'm having mega, mega bad vibes from Kylie lately.

I feel like I'm so negative and so hateful towards her that it's, like, not healthy for me. I think she's also like blasting on Instagram. It's not like a coincidence. Like she's been very active on Instagram. Yeah. She's been like posts every day, stories every day, like too much. Active in a way that is sickening to the stomach. That just like makes you like cringe every time you look at her stories.

It's just like I can't with Kim. It's like I don't know. This is going to sound weird. I feel like I know Kim Like we grew up on Kim You know like I know everything she went through From like being Paris Hilton's Assistant to like

You know the sex tape To who was her first boyfriend What was his name? Reggie To like all the shit And yes she got work done over the years And yes she has the ass and whatever But like I feel like I know her core

Kylie like And I know that she's An amazing business woman I know that she's a good person. I know that she is also doing incredible things now with, uh, you know, prison and, and shit like that. Just like with prisons. I'm like really informed. She's like with prisons. I'm releasing people and things. She's studying fucking law. Like she does good things. So like I can forgive her for a lot. Like she has, we always talk about this. Redeeming qualities. But she

doesn't post the shit that Kylie posts. And she doesn't. She doesn't. She doesn't. Right. And she also, like, yes, she has naked photos. She has promiscuous photos, whatever. Kylie is also very different that Kim still looks like herself, you know? Kylie is not the same person and she's only 21 or 22. Like, that's not, she's not, Kim is almost 40. So, okay, she had work done. I'm not saying that I'm like pro that. But I'm just saying Kylie, like, we saw her as a teenager and then we saw her one day come out after. you know a complete makeover and like showing off that fake fucking ass and that tummy tuck tummy and those giant boobs that I feel like she's keeping on she keeps on enlarging the silicon or something the implants they're just getting bigger and it's just like like it's too much and like that's all you're offering like if that's all you're putting up and that's all you're putting out there then that's what you are to the world to me you know what I mean I don't see depth in you. I've never heard Kylie say a smart sentence in my life. I've never heard her say

anything of substance. I've never seen her do anything of substance. Like, yeah, she has a billion dollar company. I'm sure it was Chris Jenner's idea and she doesn't fucking do anything. Like, I don't care. Yeah. She pisses me off. I feel like she's not a good role model to, not that she needs to take on the responsibility of being a role model. No, I'm sorry. If you are, have a hundred plus million followers. She has more than Kim now. I know. But if you have that many followers and people look up to you, then you kind of do have responsibility. And that's like I think a lot of times and like just a little off track like what Taylor Swift says, what Justin Bieber even says, what Selena Gomez say. She doesn't give a shit. They do take on that responsibility to know like I have a platform and I'm going to use it to. No. The only thing Kylie uses it for is to make money and for people to think she's hot like for certain people because I don't find that attractive. I really think she's. disgusting. I'm sorry. I see no redeeming qualities. Once I do, I can say, but she's blah, blah, blah. But I don't know her. Her personality never shown through on the Kardashians

ever. You don't see, wow, but she's so sweet. Wow, but she's so great. No, I don't see that. I see her having friends that get surgery to look like her, including her own makeup artist, including her best friend now, Stasi Baby. Like, I want to sit down with Jordan fucking Woods and for her to talk shit about Kylie. Like, that's what I fucking want. I'll be like, I forgive you for fucking over Chloe And you were just saying the other day Like they're on some vacation Now the Kardashians

And obviously gazillion pictures of Kylie's ass And Chloe also has that giant ass And she's constantly covering it up Yeah Chloe's always wearing a cover-up And also Chloe and Courtney specifically And even Kim

Like Kim was posting stuff of the kids She wasn't posting like herself at all yesterday When they were like Well she posted ying and yang And she got shit because it's yin and yang Yeah yeah And also, I commented on that. Did you see?

What did you say? I said, because Yining Yang is... Oh, she's your clone. Yeah, because Yinn and Yanker is like opposites. True. They complete each other or something. No, Kylie got surgery to be you. To look like you.

Like, that's all Kylie wanted her whole life. Like, if Kylie had her own thing and she stayed that like punk teenager and transformed and she was cool, everyone loved her style. Like, what are you today? You're like a trashy with those long fingernails and like, I don't know, she makes me so angry Ariel. She makes me so angry. That's why I told my followers I might have to unfollow. And really

the only Kardashian that I really love still is Courtney. I know. And like, yeah, Kim posted her vagina yesterday. But like Courtney is looking like post her vagina. Post everything about her. Like I don't know. What is that? And Scott is laying there and I'm just thinking, I'm like

so Scott looks at Courtney who's like a 40 year old like milf like I don't know. I don't I can't even know what to say. I was like, I was like, how is she wearing this string bikini? She wears a string bikini and she hops around and her ass jiggles the way an ass should jiggle. Yes. But perfectly, like would pray for that jiggle. And yeah, her bikini is ugly. Like we were not fans of that bikini. Like a lot of, I got a lot of DMs about that bikini. But like, perfection on her.

What can I say? Like, if anybody else. I was looking at her Instagram, I was really trying to compare because I was like, do I just give Corny the benefit of the doubt? She doesn't post that much. Like, she reposted one of the things that did show her body. But she posted, like, the book that she was reading, like, the kids, the this and that. Like, she has the least followers out of all the sisters, which I don't get. I don't get that either. But I think because, like, people follow to see Kylie and Kim's ass and to see, like, the ridiculous shit.

Yeah. And she doesn't post that. She's like, she has the best style. She, I mean, I'm not saying she looks good for 40. I'm saying she looks the best out of the entire family and she happens to be 40. Like that's what I'm saying. And it looks like, I'm sure she has work done, but it looks like she's, she kept it natural. She kept it really natural.

Like maybe she got one of those like lasers on her bed or like a Brazilian, there's like, I think like a natural, not natural. No, no, no, but not like implants or not fat injected. Yeah. That I'm, I would, you know, I would guarantee that. she hasn't had done. Well, no, because she's had the same body for years now. Like, you would be able to tell. Right. But you were saying that the stories from Saturday night when they're like at a strip, not a strip, they were at a drag show. Yeah. But there's stories from earlier in the day where I think they were at Chris's Palm Springs House. Like, I also enjoyed those,

not the like naked like Kylie ass ones, but like when they're playing with the kids and they're like, you know, like. Because it's fun to have a big family and a lot of sisters. And, like, in a house with the pool. Like, I dream to, like, be there every weekend with you guys. So that, like, I feel like is, like, relatable. And then when they all went to a drag show and Kendall, I guess, was out because she, like, was sleeping in the car. Yeah. It was, like, relatable.

They were, like, really having fun and, like, I don't know. Like, do you think they're filming? They were filming. Oh, they were filming. They showed a camera. Yeah, yeah. They were filming. And you always.

Oh, Kylie. Breaking news right now. What? Kylie Jenner and. Travis Scott are officially back together. Breaking news. How do you think that works? You think that they like tell them today you're going to release this statement?

I don't know. I hate him too. Yeah. TBH, as people say. TBH. But no, so when they were in the drag show, I don't know. Like sometimes when they have these relatable moments, I'm like, wow. Like this is like a normal family.

And Chris is so cute. And Kim just sat there like, I think kind of like a g-ma, like she wasn't. participating in, like, wild Chloe and Kylie. Yeah. And it was, I, I enjoyed it. I mean, I like seeing, I feel like everyone, a big family and, like, so many sisters and how fun it is to, like, have that bond and have, like, family that you love so much and want to spend your time with. I want to talk about, you're not watching Vanderpump rules. I mean, I'm not really sure what I've done to you, but I'll take a Pinogrigio.

Which means, like, you're a. about to be like officially fired you don't watch bander pump you don't watch housewives like what are you for i'm like a half of an employee right now no like i'm gonna just bring you in as like a bachelor correspondent and that's about it and Kardashians but you even say this season is like not on excuses do you not say the season is like do this season is upsetting because you know vanderpump is my bb but this season is slacking because a they brought in a bunch of new people They keep on force feeding them down our throats. Like, if you're bringing in new people, like, let us use into it.

Like, let us see new people in scenes with OGs. Let us, like, see what the OGs like about them. But no, they're showing us new people with new people. I don't care about Dana and Max dating. I don't know either of them yet. I don't care about Brett and Charlie going on a date because I don't care about either of them and probably won't ever. And I was actually having a really interesting discussion about Vanderpump rules the other day on the podcast I was on.

And the host had a really, really good point. She said Vanderpump will not be able to continue endlessly because, like, the way VPR started is a bunch of friends working at a restaurant being sloppy, drunky, single, fucking each other's boyfriend and girlfriends. like they're all grown up they're all like kind of doing better in life um so like we're not going to watch them like probably have kids and you know what i mean like it's gonna probably have to end unless people do fall in love with the new people and it becomes like a new show with new people that's the only way it's going to happen and the reason they show but i'm not but i'm telling you that's why i don't feel like i'm going to watch that but i think that like they're so new so you're not used to them, but like you'll get, you'll like fall in love with them. The girl I was on

the podcast with yesterday said a really good point. The reason VPR worked so well is because they were legit all friends. Do you remember? Yeah, yeah. They knew each other. No, no, not knew each other. All best friends. Jacks lived with, I mean, Tom lived with, you know, Tom and Kristen were together. Stasi and Jackson and Tom, best friends. Jackson and Tom, best friends. Kristen, Schwartz to Katie. It's not true. They were all. The only one that came in was Sheena and she was new. And she was new. But they were legit really all friends and that's why it worked because it's like these people are all real friends. So obviously Stasi is going to be fucking mad of Kristen for fucking Jacks. Like it's not people that just started working together. So I don't

think it can work in another way unless they try and they say, oh like sir employees. So this is a new VPR. But it's not going to be like it was. It won't be the same. But now even like with the original cast it's like they're all grown up it's not 10 years ago anymore like they are married they have houses they get their hair and makeup done for each scene so it's like it's not authentic anymore but i did tell you and i will say this every time i bring this up as much as it can look less authentic i know inside our information everything that's going on is for real like all the storylines are for real like the pastor uh the fights between the cast like everything is so real that until today even though

you know filming wrapped you know in the summer yeah they're still feeling it they're still upset about it it's still that's why it worked because A they were a group of friends and B they live it they breathe it that's what they really are yeah yeah

but at the same time Stasi like you always say is hustling she turned her life into like an own thing and so even if we wanted to follow these people they're not doing anything yeah you know like Brittany doesn't do like brittany doesn't do anything jacks doesn't do anything like tom and tom like work at tom tom tom so let's say okay Ariana and tom wrote the cocktail book so like I guess like it's it's it would be hard to like I wonder like

they're literally spreading out jackson brittany's wedding for like 75 episodes and it's like we don't care we know they end up getting married it's not like a shock do you know what I mean it's not like you're watching a show and you don't know like we know they got married we know is at the castle we saw million photos like it's not so exciting for you to spread it out four episodes but like that's the premise kind of of this season it's like new people new people jack's getting married tom sandal being like a dick uh best man jack's getting upset about it pastor homophobic jack's getting upset about it tom being you know not supportive of him um it's just it's it's just not this season and and it's upsetting. It's the first season that I watch

live. I know and do you feel like, because like I know last season was like a really good season so I wonder how it changed like I guess a year had gone by they were still working. I remember last season was like when James

and Katie were in that had that huge fight and he called her like fat or something and she went to Lisa and got him fired so there was actual workplace drama still. Now it's like no one really works there. No one does anything.

They all live in the same house. They all live in the same neighborhood in the same house. So it's kind of dwindling. And it's really, we always bring this back to this point. It's so interesting to see these people who have been on TV for 10 years and like they don't get to the level of like bachelor people. Love is blind people. That's a thing. Bravo. Like, for people who love Bravo, like, love Bravo. So in my mind, I'm

like, Bravo is this, like, huge thing with massive following and, like, the world is watching. And then you're like, legit a Netflix show comes out 10 episodes and these people blow the fuck up. And, you know, I don't know if it's, like, numbers that matter. Like, doesn't matter, you know, that Katie has one million and Lauren has one million followers on Instagram. like I'm sure it's kind of like people have been watching me for 10 years like they've been watching her for 10 days I know but that that's what I'm saying but I feel like because of like VPR doesn't blow up like that like but I think it's because Netflix is huge ABC is huge Bravo as cult yet as it is as successful as it is it's not isn't as huge of a platform yeah at the end of the day you know what I mean Did you notice, though, when there were commercials for The Bachelor last week that Chris Harrison is hosting every show on ABC. What is he hosting? This volcano thing.

And then he was hosting something else and, like, a new show that's coming on that every show on ABC, Chris Harrison is hosting. I didn't watch any other shows on ABC. No, I know. But every show that ABC has Chris Harrison is hosting. It's insane. This man is like... Because I'm sure with The Bachelor is the most successful. show on ABC. I mean, and he's really good

at what he does. But like Chris, like, I love him. It's just so funny to see like, suddenly he's like on the bachelor and then it goes to commercials and it's like Chris Harrison hosting this. So speaking of Chris Harrison, him being good, what did you think of Nick Lechay and Vanessa Lechay as host of Love is Blind?

Because they got a lot of hate for it. Hate. Why hate? People just thought they sucked. Well, I just think like the whole, every time they spoke, it was so scripted. What? Cite unseen? We will see if love is actually blind you know what i mean i'm like i'm saying yeah i posted it so it was like if i hear sight unseen from vanessa lichet they were kind of tired i feel like they they they weren't like

it wasn't like captivating to watch them host they literally said it could have not been there they but they they weren't there like when were they there when they came in and just like set a line uh danny pelegrino has a theory that um that the whole show was filmed and then they had them come in and like film a bunch of things as if they hosted that could be but i will say on the reunion when vanessa lichet like got emotional and she was i feel like she's a really really sweet person yeah um that doesn't mean she does a good hosting job right but i don't think that they should be like hosting a show together really because it wasn't cliche obviously no i can't with that line which like what obviously first of all he has less followers than cameron no way wait wait wait wait

Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait. We're going to find this out now. Drum roll. Then Cameron, no, I can't deal. Drum roll. I fucking, oh my God, it was so funny. So I put up.

Oh, look at his 7991K. Nick Lichet officially has less followers than Cameron. And like most of the love is blindcast. No, I need to put this up. So I put up Cameron's follower account yesterday and I wrote like, listen, he's the sweetest person in the fucking world, but he's also the most boring. Oh, my God, he's at 920K. Of course. Let's see how much Lauren. She's over a million. I bet you. Lauren. Oh, she's like speed something, right? Yeah. Lauren. Let's see.

1.1. 1.1. You guys. So, listen. So I put up Kim and I was like, listen, with all due respect, he's like the sweetest man and blah, blah, blah, blah. But like, he's boring. Like, why are people following him? I quit. And I wasn't even like talking about myself. But this person wrote to me like, Don't quit. No, I wish. That would have been nicer. This person wrote to me like, I wouldn't like compare yourself to Cameron because like he was on Netflix and that's

like a huge platform and like unfortunately like you're funny and everything but like you don't have that platform. I was like, bitch, I ain't comparing myself to Cameron. I know I don't have that platform. If I had that platform, then it would be like, oh, want to laugh and like love this like hysterical cute woman. I love when you compliment your. self. I love it. Then follow her. But here it's like want to like go to sleep. Like I don't

understand. Legit. Listen to Cameron and Lauren. I'm not comparing myself. I'm saying I need I'm not going to follow Cameron. Yeah. I might check in and see how many followers he has. I'm not going to follow Lauren. I don't need her skincare routine. Um, but obviously we're not giving them, you know, all the, no, I can't deal. Nick Lechay has been around for 25 years. But he's obviously. Nick Lechay. No, but can we deal it? That's so funny. No.

Nick Lechay. No, but can we deal it? But he hasn't been relevant. Do you know what I mean? What is he doing? Where did he come from? This is the first time I've seen him in like 10 years. And I guess like 98 degrees was like many years ago and like his newlyweds was many years ago.

What? Newly Woods with Jessica Simpson? Yeah. That was like 20 years ago. And it was before Instagram time. I know. That was like the best reality. show but it was before literally any anybody could follow anybody right how much a jessica

says on has oh i forgot to say something i really want to talk about oh what i'm excited because i didn't tell you it because it's something you don't know it's 5.5 million so we were talking about the kardashian so i just want to step back to that for a moment did you see kim at the yezy show with braids yes i did okay so she tagged chris appleton who was on my podcast who does her hair yeah as if he did her hair. Okay. This woman wrote a post on Instagram going, Chris Appleton did not do her hair. This black woman did her hair, but she's tagging Chris Appleton. Why? I don't know. It's like fucked up. I don't know. It's really, really fucked up. More fucked up, and this is in size of inflammation, is that I put that up and popular celebrity hair style is Dan Mien says

Chris Appleton does that all the time, takes credit for other people. work like if kim needs braids he'll bring in uh women of color that specialize in that they'll do it for her but he'll get the credit because he like brought them in so that's what happened that's what's what happened but what's really annoying is Kim is a better person than that like Kim knows who sat on her hair like she could at least tag her she could tag them both she can tag them both at least yeah yeah but this celebrity hairstylist that message me said Chris is infamous for doing that kind of shit, for taking credit, and it's really wild that Kim participates in it.

Kim is also getting a lot of comments about like cultural appropriation. I'll help you out there. Because like she's not black. I'm not saying, I don't know, I'm not saying I agree with this. I'm not saying, so PC. She wants to wear braids, wear the fucking braids. I don't care. Yeah.

So she gets a lot of hate for that because it's like she's not black and she hasn't. dealt with things that black people have dealt with yet she's like enjoying i guess like the fashion and i think that's where it i get it but i think that she does kind of like try to be black a lot yeah and you're not but she can do whatever she wants to do i don't think that like well like people judge everything so she wore braids and she's not black you know what i mean like that's like she wants to wear braids wear the fucking braids that doesn't mean that she has had to gone through what they went through and like like she then you're right about that she hasn't been what um they've been through and she doesn't have to take care of her hair at the same way are you

going through her stroke why i don't know i'm not sure that was like english like she'd not go through what they went like i don't even know what you're saying oh my god stop okay no i'm not saying i agree with it i'm saying she got some hate for that you know when she curls her like sideburn yeah but No, I can't stop the name of what I just said because I have no idea what I just said. Oh, my God. But anyway, that was. But I feel like if she wants to curl her sideburns, she should be able to curl her sideburn. I mean, even though it's ugly, I have curl away.

Yeah. My thing was only like give credit where credits do. That's true. And Chris Appleton should be a good human and give that person that he's bringing in credit because he's not doing the work. Yeah, and I heard that he does that a lot. Crazy. Katie Perry's pregnant. I know.

Wait, what's happening in Hollywood? I need to know. Like, can celebrities just be like in, um, 17 and a half weeks? Like, I just want to know. They can't just, like, put a baby bump and then, like, how is guessing? Are you giving birth tomorrow? Are you, like, she's announcing she's pregnant. She's not going to be, like, 17.

Hashtag, hashtag 25 weeks. Like, just hashtag it. We don't need, um. Yeah, I mean, like, it would be nice to know. Hashtag, it's a boy. An interview is going to come out soon where she'll be, like, doing. And you know what I was thinking yesterday? Like Orlando Bloom is fucking hot.

Like let's like take a moment. They're going to have a beautiful baby. No, but it's just like I never really thought about them together. Like I don't think about them. Because they're not so public. And they're not so interesting. But like then I like was in stocking Orlando Bloom and I was like, I forgot Orlando Bloom is like a hunk. Orlando Bloom is a real hunk.

Yeah, like that's a catch, Katie. Yeah. But she's cute. She's really pretty. No, she really is cute. I'm just saying he's a cat. Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, to say you're dating Orlando Bloom, like...

Like he was in Pirates of the Caribbean. That's all for today. That's it? Well, no. I forgot to talk about Jersey reunion. Who? Real Housewives of New Jersey Reunion. The Real Real and the Real Housewives.

I'm not with the Bravo shows. Yeah. I'm really bad with them. Maybe I won't talk about it then. Why, was it not interesting? No, it was actually really interesting. So talk about it. Oh.

Okay, so the first part of the New Jersey reunion happened last week, and they brought it. Listen, I am really excited to see what happens with Real House House House of New York without Bethany, because Bethany's not coming back, because those are the two franchises I watch. But I really think Jersey brought it. And even though Jennifer is mad annoying, she did bring entertainment to the season. And she basically used this reunion as a like one woman show to get her ticket to the next season. And she was literally spewing, talking shit everywhere to everyone, like the ball she has to, like, stand up to the OGs. She stood up to Melissa.

She told Melissa, all her storylines are fake. She even went, you know, she even went after Bethany on Instagram. She's fucking crazy. She's a loony bin. So I don't think it'll be, she'll have any problems getting asked back for next season. But I do think some of the shit she says is just uncalled for. Like, who are you? Who asked you?

but the Melissa thing and the fake storylines and the whatever kind of all of a sudden like rung a bell like really where is your long loss sister and like I really also don't think you were going to have a baby wait what do you mean she said like Melissa just says because no she doesn't just say but it looks like since she doesn't have a lot to offer to the show that she has like story because at the end of the day you need to have a storyline yeah you need to be doing something aside from like the shit within the group yeah so like she was like all of a sudden talking about it. wanting to have a baby and like we're talking about how her dad who had already passed like had another woman and maybe she went to a medium and they said that maybe she has a sister so all these storylines that like never pan out like she never finds a long-law sister like she doesn't end up having a baby it's 100% fake so I love Ariel doesn't know we're talking about adds for a tidbit it makes a 100% you guys judgment how do I live so close to her but it did open my eyes. Do I think Jennifer Aiden, like, new to the house I've should have, like, been the one to say it? No, but she had guts to say it. I think I also loved the finale that the fourth wall

broke because Danielle told Melissa in that totally candid, natural, you know, coffee meeting that they had. She basically told her, you're not going to be asked back for the show because no one's friends with you. And Teresa is your only friend. And then basically her friendship. with Teresa got blown up too because Danielle said to Melissa that Teresa said to Danielle to go pull Margaret's hair. So then what happened is that Melissa comes back, shares this. And then I'm like, well, Melissa really doesn't give a shit about Teresa. Her sister-in-law is like telling this. And Teresa got so upset because it was kind of like the producer's fucked her because it was on camera. So they showed it.

They actually showed Teresa saying to Danielle, go, go do it. Pull her hair. Meanwhile, Margaret's friends with Teresa. So you could see Teresa squirming, but also she flipped off the camera. She ran off and Melissa said she's mad at the producers because this is like this. I love seeing that kind of shit. Because this is what happened. Melissa goes to lunch with Danielle.

Danielle says, Teresa told me to. Melissa gets in the van with production back to the house Production is telling Melissa's probably going like Is she lying and production probably said listen now Like it was actually caught on tape We can show it Then she had the the credentials To come back give this information

To Margaret? To everyone She sat in front of everyone But basically probably with also the support of the producers And also the producers kind of looking at Teresa going We're going to show the footage. So, like, you can't really lie. So she was caught a place where she's basically telling her friend Margaret, like, yeah, like I did tell her to, you know, and she had no

choice. You could tell she was so upset. And again, it's the same thing as Jackson, Brittany, and Vindner from Proul's. And this is the fourth wall breaking. You know, this is not big brother with cameras on the wall. There is a production team. There is so many people on the ground. You know it's being filmed. You know it's going to be on TV. You want to look good. You don't want to be the asshole who got the homophobic priest. pastor you don't want to be the the violent bad friend telling your other friend to to attack your other friend so at the end of the day it's like fuck i'm gonna look bad yeah and you can see so much lately in these people like at the same time though looking bad is like not it like

makes good tv so like it's not a bad thing but teresa's in the game for 10 years like she's had that already yeah yeah you're right about teresa she's looked bad she's looked bad she's had that. Like, I feel like now she's in a place. She's gone to jail and back. Like, she wants to be looking good. Anyway, really excited to see the two additional parts of the reunion. Okay, you guys, here is my interview with Perez Hilton. Okay, guys, we have the pioneer and, basically the father and mother of all things celebrity gossip today, Perez Hilton.

Hello. You are for real, the god of celebrity gossip. Oh, thank you. I mean, I've been doing it a long time now since 2004, and I still love it. And what's exciting for me is, you know, as the years go on, there's just more celebrities to talk about. There's new ones. Like, you know, I am thrilled that Lizzo is as popular as she is because I love Lizzo or somebody like Billy Eilish that I now am covering regularly.

And she was somebody, I posted Ocean Eyes, the very first song she released, the same week she released it before Billy Eilish blew up. No way. I've always loved music. I've always loved just pop culture, which is why when I decided to start. blogging back in 2004, I knew that I wanted to talk about celebrities and not about myself. Yeah, I read you said that and I really connected with it because do you find, are you not a self-absorbed person at all? Like, you kind of love yourself, right? I mean, I'm one of those

people that are very yin-yang. Like, I am an introverted extrovert. I am very confident, but also have a lot of self-esteem issues at the same time, both. And I think maybe most, isn't everybody that way, really? Yeah, but I so agree with you on that because, like, you know, there's such a fun thing about talking about celebrities. And I've also felt that way since I was young, but I'm always honest with my followers and my listeners that I wasn't always as confident as you were to say, hey, this is my passion, this is what I care about.

Because sometimes people would be like, oh, you're so superficial, you're so shallow, you're interested in, like, bullshit. There's more important shit in the world, like, you know, politics or whatever. And really, only in the past few years, I felt comfortable being like, this is what I care about most in the world, you know? I, you know, I don't judge what I do. I love that I do, but a lot of people judge what I do. And that's fine.

A lot of people judge McDonald's and don't like to eat a McDonald's. You know, I'm very transparent. I am kind of like the McDonald's of the Internet. that it's easily digestible, it's fast, it's fun. There is a healthy option if you want it. You know, I do have a variety of content that I talk about. I do talk about politics. I do talk about current events or whatever may be trending

that has nothing to do with celebrities. But clearly, you know, the celebrities are the bread and butter and what I'm most known for. And I still love to talk about them. I view my job, like being a surfer. It's about getting out there every day, writing your board, getting better at it as the years go on, and just loving it, regardless of whether you have a big wave or waves that day or small waves. So you used to doodle on your photos, like on your blog. Do you still do that?

I don't doodle. I've changed a lot over the years. I mean, I feel do some doodles, but not like. like any inappropriate things. Yeah. I'm in my 40s now. I've got three kids. Yeah.

Some people still are behaving like they used to in college when they're in their 40s, but not me. Even my priorities are different from when they were five years ago. I want to talk for a second about your brief appearance on the hills this year. Can we address it for a moment? Misha Barton was on the hills. and I guess it was one of her storylines that you're close with Spencer in real life? Yes.

And then there was like a party and both of you were there and she confronted you, which did look like took a lot out of her because she was really hurt by things you've written about her. I guess when she was on the OC, was it like weight related and drug related at the time? It was probably all of that. Back then she was getting arrested a lot. I mean, she's even still gotten arrested recently, like two or three years ago she got arrested. That was all

prearranged. Yeah. I signed up for the scene and they specifically wanted us to talk about the past. They didn't, it wasn't scripted, there wasn't a script. And it was all really based on reality. Spencer had a different

party. That wasn't a Spencer party. That was just like a Hill's thing, right? Right. Spencer had a real party before that, for that, his crystals because he's selling crystals. And I went to this party and I go say hi to him and I didn't even realize that Misha was right next to him.

And when she saw me, she went running away. And then when the producers saw that happen and then they started asking questions, that sparked the idea on the producers side to bring me back and have it actually can out. But no, but you said, you said sorry, right? that like I, it was a little bit of a go, but I remember you apologize and then she kept pushing it and like you even swore on your family or something like that and, and, yeah, she didn't accept my apology, which is fine. I'm not going to force you to accept an apology. You don't have to accept my apology. But when she was questioning me and I was being very sincere, what you didn't

see was what I said right before that, we were talking for about 15 minutes, which is a good amount of time, okay then when i thought our quote scene came to an end naturally i was like listen you know all this aside no camera's here i just want to be very honest and sincere and truly apologize and say how much regret i have and if i could go back in time and do things differently i would and she wouldn't believe me i'm like i'm so serious i swear on my kid's life and then she's like i don't believe you i didn't care if she accepted my apology or not i apologize Nobody forced me to apologize. I was here.

I wanted to apologize. When a man or a woman is telling you, I'm swearing on my kid's life, be like, okay, well, I hear you. And I don't want to call her dumb, but there are so many reasons why I would do things differently in the past. Many of those reasons are selfish,

and it has nothing to do with other people, even though one of the main, if not the main reason, I would do things differently is because I don't want to purposely cause people pain just by nature of what I do that happens sometimes like if I say

I think the need Justin Bieber song sucks Justin Bieber may not like that but I'm not purposely thinking well what can I say that's going to piss Justin Bieber off to get a reaction from him so he'll tweet about me or whatever it may be things I used to do in the past

but you know the other side of the coin you know, I still, still suffer and paying the price of mistakes I made in the past. Really? In terms of professionally, and socially, like, it's nearly impossible for me to date because most gay men don't like me. And also, not just about me, but my kids. I know that my kids have suffered and will suffer for the mistakes their father made. Do you think that now with social media and, like, the fact that your blog is in

just a website, but you, you know, you tweet it and you put it on Instagram, like, has definitely your influence has become greater, but has, like, backlash from things you say become, like, larger also? I love backlash. I would rather be talked about negatively than not at all. So I'm not a troll. So when I say something, I really believe it. So I have great ease in steaming behind my words.

So you were saying Justin Bieber's, were you talking about the whole album? I'm a run of the new songs. Most of the new songs. Most of the new songs. Did you watch Miss Americana and Seasons? Did you watch Taylor Swift's and Justin Bieber's documentaries? No. I just watched clips of each.

I didn't watch either. Oh, yeah. So if you watch both of them, you'll definitely feel kind of the difference between Taylor Swift, you know, who writes her own songs and everything and Justin Bieber. But he's another one, you know, that we obviously wish him well and want him to get his shit together. So lastly, I know you have to go.

soon, but do you, I want to know what reality TV you love? You know, I don't, it doesn't bother me to admit this. I only watch children's TV. It's just kids cartoons with my kids. I only let my kids watch cartoons on Saturdays and Sundays and not even that much each day and maybe Friday night a little bit. But other than that, I don't have time to watch TV. I have my own podcast, which if you guys want to listen to the Perez spoken podcast with Chris

Booker, you can hear it on Spotify or. Apple Podcasts or directly at Perrettepodcast.com. I have two YouTube channels that I'm creating content for daily. Very active on TikTok, creating videos just for TikTok daily. And of course, my website. I really, like, we need to get you a few assistants. So, because your opinions on reality TV would be, you know, it's a whole realm of, like, things we need Perez Hilton's opinions on.

Like the Bachelor, the Thirst Monsters, like, what? You don't know, but you know what's crazy, Perez? Like today, once upon a time it used to be reality stars were so separate from Hollywood and, you know, some A-listers. Today, they're all like intermingling because of like Instagram and shit. You know what I mean? So they're all, so it's all kind of like overlapping, which is crazy. It used to be very, very separate.

Yeah, yeah. I love it, though. This gives me more people and more content. I know. know. Well, Perez, thank you so much for taking some time to chat with us here. And you already told us, right, where we can like listen, find podcast, website, TikTok. Everywhere. Perezpodcast.com across social media, all that jazz. All right, Perez. Thank you so, so much. Have a good day. You too. Thank you, Ariel, for coming in here. Am I fired? Like, are you ever going to invite me back

again? Does it feel like I'm not? Like, I feel like I might be fired after today. I don't know. I have a feeling. You're going to be like, that's it. You're done. We'll have a, you know, you know that talk that you have before you're fired where you can say your last words. Anyway, you know, any way, you know, I do, you know, I know, I do, but, um, anyway, you guys, thanks for listening. I love you.

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