Not Skinny But Not Fat - Miss Americana, Seasons and other Recaps

Episode Date: February 4, 2020

Wow, Justin Beiber’s 'Seasons' and Taylor Swift’s 'Miss Americana' out at the same time [insert mind blown emoji], so you can’t help but compare – and of course, we do. Sistager, Arielle, makes a comeback to discuss the most boring season in the history of The Bachelor, VPR and how it’s changed since the first seasons, Tyler C’s new (and odd) endeavor, Stormi World, and other important stuff.  This episode was brought to you by: Collagen For Her is the first collagen powder created specifically for women. It dissolves instantly, doesn't clump up, and has no taste at all, so it's so easy to add to coffee, tea, or smoothies. Collagen For Her is woman-owned and was created to help women find supplements that they can trust and feel good about putting into their bodies. If you want to try it out, head to CollagenForHer.com and you can use the code "NOTSKINNY" to get 10% off your order!  Betterhelp is an online counseling platform for you. Listeners will receive 10% off their first month by heading to betterhelp.com/notskinny today. Get help on your own time and pace. The Not Skinny But Not Fat Podcast is produced by The Podglomerate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Literally, like you said, seven out of the eight minutes is him in the studio saying, yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy, yeah. La Bonita, get up, but the pass. And then you're like, he writes his own songs and are like, um, probs not. This is not skinny but not fat, and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps, and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't. keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat.

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So Ariel's here to talk some good old celebrity gossip talk a little bit about The Bachelor which we haven't discussed even. We have like very like briefly we discussed it. Well I had some good guests lately so we haven't been able to record this kind of a pod. True, true. Wait, so have we not talked about it

since episode one? Like we haven't gone through who we? We love who we, like, aren't so into. The Bachelor, you mean? Yeah. Who do we love? No, but I'm saying, like, we haven't talked about the contestants? I don't think so.

Okay. Bachelor nation, say what? Oh, my God, no way. Oh, oh, oh, my God. I mean, if we really want to start with The Bachelor, the main thing I can say is that I've been duped by Victoria. Both Victoria's, actually. We don't know if the second Victoria.

Wait, let's say which one's which. I don't know. Victoria S? Let's say the Victoria the blonde and Victoria the Brunette. Okay, Victoria the Brunette seemed really real, really quirky. She's the one that actually walked in and said something about, like, being wet or something in the... Oh, it was inappropriate? Yeah, but she, like, couldn't get through with a joke because she's, like, so giggly and cute.

And she always had this, like, sexy but tint of, like, a little awkward and a little this and that. And then the first time that she got a lot of heat was when there was that, like, fashion show thing. and she was like so nervous that she was going to black out on stage but then proceeded to like be super sexy kiss like French Peter in the middle and I still liked her and Instagrammed about it but people were like where are you on Twitter because on Twitter all this shit is going around that she's actually a model so she's full of shit she's full of shit

B she apparently has a really bad reputation for like dating married men or something we don't know that though do we people have what do I say about I know I know you say rumors are usually true they're usually true yeah so it's coming from somewhere she might she must have broken up like a marriage or two for that like no one's going around saying you're breaking up marriages you know what I mean nobody cares about me but and and speaking of that people you know what you guys are the fools because these Hannah motherfucking Anne has 500,000 followers. Yeah, we went through this the other day and we were looking at like Bachelor contestants in the past that made it like really far where like the second to last or like got proposed to

and they are not even up to a million. I.e. I. Vanessa Grimaldi who was like so loved in Bachelor Nation. I'm not sure she's so loved anymore, babe. She had a really weird like help by second dating like where she would record from Canada on like her phone and it was like really bad. And then the awkward like Jared and Ashley I'd invite her to their wedding so I think she's like had a good reputation because she works with like special needs and like whatever but I'm saying on the show she was really popular like she was how much does Rachel Lindsay have less than a million two and she was I know but that's what I'm saying like did you watch Vanessa Greenup Maldives you watched next season like she was one of the loved ones in that season like everybody loved her everybody knew she

went from day one yeah from day one so it's the same kind of thing as Maddie and Hannah Ann but they're already up to 500-K. Because the world, like, isn't coming down. They're not coming down. They're not coming down. Like, we talked about Hannah B has 2.6 million or something. Cassie and Colton have over 2 million followers. Tyler fucking C., which I can't say his name without vomiting.

Even though I'm sure that a million and a half of his followers have realized the thirst monster that he is, they still want to see what he's up to. I'm included in those fucking people. But you follow him? I can't get me. I need to know what he's doing. Even though I have to be honest, he's not that interesting. He's not that interesting. And when a lot of my followers know that I despise him, send me like more thirsty videos.

He gets on comments by celebs all the time because he literally comments on mad people's photos. He commented on Jennifer Garner's photo, something like I'd swipe right when she put up the like LinkedIn Twitter, Instagram, Tinder thing. So he's really also like trying to. So when people send me that kind of shit, it's like, yeah, it's annoying. but it's already like old. You know what I mean? And I feel like he's going to fizzle out except he's having a new show come out

on the quibby. Sounds like the dumbest thing ever, I'm sorry. Called Barkature because he's like an art. Is he an architect or something? I don't know. All I know is he's from Juniper, Florida. No, but he's like a contractor or something.

Oh, maybe, yeah. So he's doing a show called Barkature, Building Home for dogs on the Quibi Network. And I have to say, like, good going. Do you know the Quibi Network? No. I don't even know if it's, like, a streaming thing. I don't know if literally he put up this post and I thought I was having a stroke, like,

that I couldn't read. Like, Barcature and Quibi, I was like, what? Like, what does any of these words mean? Like, but you just said it so, like, naturally. Because anybody know who quibb is? Because I had to reread it 17,000 times to make sure everything was okay. Thank God, everything's okay. But so I'm saying, like, obviously, great.

for him. I'm just trying to think, like, even for me, like, how it would feel about writing that post. Like, I have a new show, and then to say it's about building homes for dogs on Quibi would feel a little weird. Yeah. But he's going to take anything that he can, that thirsty, thirst

monster. Okay. Even though I would never be as thirsty as him, like, I would take the opportunities. Why not? You know, like, of course, take the opportunity. But, like, he's... But the reason I hate on Tyler Cameron is because of his personality. Yes. No, I agree with that.

He has a annoying personality. At least that's what it seems like on Instagram. He has annoying eyebrows. I don't know how I didn't notice that before. And he's not at all who he was on her season. That's what I was going to say. Like, the fact that he's a completely different person, that's the worst thing. Like, people didn't really love Nick Vile.

And we've talked about this before. But like, he's the same, like, arrogant, you know, intellectual. Like, I think I'm better than you. but I'm a little smart and have abs so like it's okay person that he is that he wasn't every single bachelor show he was on that he is in real life

Tyler made us think he was Paul Newman reincarnate and we were all rooting for him like it's so hard to even remember one of my followers once I put up something hateful about him and one of my followers was like didn't choose to love him and then I posted and I was like no

and then I had to be like wait I did I know we were so fortunate Tyler. We wanted him to win. So yes, Tyler C is a thirst monster. And I think what bothers us the most is kind of who he was on the shows. And most people are, like we said, Nick Vile, you know, Hannah B is the same Hannah. She was on the shows that she has in real life. So I think he, Peter, you know, pilot Pete is the same. We could say the same about Colton even. Like a lot of people, we could say the same that you, like their personality is the same. They're the same type of person. Tyler C is like. dating baby Stasi or Stasi baby like he's not the same person I think that's fizzled out but yeah whatever but like it's just not it's just yeah stay away stay away but anyway read this season like we're talking about obviously you know social media just continues to grow and so are the number of followers that these contestants get and like we already know they probably go into these shows wanting that knowing that that's all they want that's why what they want

Hannah Ann, for example, I think, had like 200K, though, before she even went on. Oh, she did? Maybe not 200. I don't know. She was trying to be a, she's like a model. I know, so is McKenna. She's an influencer. That's her job.

And even like Maddie. And you know who I think the only. No, Maddie isn't. Maddie wasn't. No, she wasn't, but like, why is the 22 year old on the show? But she's, but I kind of like, but she's my, I mean, I hate, I don't like anyone and I like Maddie. She's the cutest one.

But you know who I really. think wasn't there for the following and like you're going to think this is like but the attorney Kelly even though we were not so like into her she I think she really is there for Peter because they met before and like she would and they probably had sex before and like I really do feel like she like they don't show her a lot you barely see her face I don't think she like really is a bachelor person yeah but she is there for for Peter I really do think so okay no I'm not I'm not saying you're wrong. Yeah.

But definitely those 22-year-olds that, you know, their title in their, when they do confessions is like model or Instagram and blogger or whatever, it's like, give me a fucking break. Yeah. So anyway, like I said, Maddie or Madison is a Maddie. I think they call her Maddie. Maddie Rose. They had a really big connection. You could tell from their first date when he took her weirdly to her parents' vow renewal. which looked completely, you know, for the show,

even though his parents are very cute. But she kind of feels like the most, like, innocent, I don't know, I'm buying it for now. I'm buying her what she's selling. I'm definitely buying it. But I also, I think that, like, she's my favorite, but, like, the dates have been so awful. Every date ends in, like, somebody performing

and them dancing around people, and it's just getting old. Like, that's been his every date. He did that. I don't remember with who. And then this past weekend. and then I think another time. No, first of all, let's start this discussion by saying it's a really bad season so far. Yeah.

It's really boring. And, you know, I always watch The Bachelor when I'm doing something else, too. Like, I'm, like, working or I'm whatever. And I'm still, like, bored. And then they'll have drama. You know, they had Champaign Gate. This time they had a huge drama. Alea.

Alea. About Alea. Like, listen, Bachelor producers, we don't give a shit about the people yet. We don't know them that well. We're not in the final few episodes. We were down to the final four and we find out that Jed is a motherfucker who has a girlfriend and whatever. Like, we're on the third episode.

We don't know who Alea is. Like, we don't care if Victoria, who by the way has a new face, Victoria the Blonde, I put it up on my Instagram. She looks like she was my favorite. In the first episode, like she kind of looked like, oh, she seems sweet, whatever. she also has like a do-goody job right she's she's a nurse but then i saw all photos of her and i saw that she's completely like also looks entirely different and also like she seems

kind of weird do you know what i mean like she's like kind of the whole thing with elia saying she doesn't know her and then like getting mad at peter that he like brought her back and being like peter don't talk to me right now oh peter oh they're both clearly there for the wrong reason which is why they lied about it in the first place which is why they're both there to be famous they don't really care about Peter that's it you know what I mean I could never be a lead on that show

with real intentions because like it's just so like I'm just thinking about you know I'm trying to get in the mindset of these girls and I'm not saying Peter is out there to get to fall in love like really I don't know he's so like sad all the time I kind of like believe him

I don't think, I think, like, yeah, I think. Of course, Peter, the pilot can walk into a bar and pick up like a hot girl and doesn't need the show, obviously. Peter, the pilot likes the opportunity and who wouldn't, who wouldn't? But I'm saying like he's not really there to find love. If it happens, it's great. If it doesn't, that's fine. But, like, Peter isn't trying to be an Instagram influencer either because he's a pilot. I know.

He's not going to not be a pilot. He's going to not be a pilot. He's not going to not be a pilot. You think he's going to keep flying Delta after the show? Hell no. Do you know how hard it's going to be when the whole world is stopping you on your way to your flight? And when you're on the plane... They don't see you. They see... And when you're on... Let's put place a bet right now. I say he keeps being a pilot.

I say he doesn't. I say he flies maybe like once a year. Like he's not going to fly. I say he's going to be a pilot. Full time, you think he's going to be a pilot. He doesn't... He's not going to have that time. What are they doing? What do you have to have a job? Does any bachelor contestant have a job? No, now I really don't know what you're talking about. Does Ari has a job? You know who has a job? Ari. Okay, Ari may have a job in my, yeah, whatever.

You know who else? The only other person I can think of is Tia. She's still a physical therapist. Other than that, I like Tia. I love Tia. Other than that, none of them work. And Raven has her shop, Grace Wade. None of them work.

With the knowledge. I really know them. Who works? Tell me who works? Okay, come down for a second. We're going to take a quick break and come right back. Okay, coming back to no one works in the bathroom, but me thinking that pilot Pete is going to fly planes.

But you even said you're like, well, they have to work. Like, nobody works? They have. Ari works. Okay, you're naming one out of like hundreds. Jordan and Jojo work. But they, yes. Okay.

But they created something out of like their. like the fame that they got out of the show. The biggest disappointment aside from Tyler's seat to me has been John Paul Jones who moved to LA who had a job and I was so like oh it's so cute that he has a job

which is so fucked up but that's what I thought and then he moved to LA and all he posts are like these like headshots that he got or something and he's trying to be an actor and go on auditions and no babe I don't know

you know what these people need to sometimes quit while they're had because he got so much love from Bachelor Nation and a lot more airtime than he should have on Hannah season because remember like we didn't get it like why is he getting airtime when like obviously he's not her love interest obviously this is bullshit but he's such a character he's so funny yeah but he's trying to be an actor now which like just start a podcast JPJ don't you know like oh Hollywood isn't calling your name um Anyway, going back to this season, I don't know how Peter's going to leave with love because they all seem like they just want Instagram followers, which they're going to get anyway, like we said, these girls are climbing and climbing and climbing up the numbers.

And what else? Oh, last week's episode, we had the drama with Victoria, the brunette, which, you know, she dated Chase Rice. She didn't date him. Chase Rice was very clear. He said he had sex with her. And he said he, like, saw her and Peter, and he, like, could barely even recognize her. Did you see? He's like, I...

Victoria F is the... Victoria F. Yeah. But he said he didn't even recognize her that they had sex once, and that was it. And even... She said, Rice says his relationship with Fuller was brief. We spent a night together, which is a nice way to say. Yeah, we had sex. Yeah.

And... My ex-way friend. When you scroll down that article, he says, like, when she walked out, like, he knew she kind of looked familiar, but he didn't even remember her. But you know what Chase Rice is now getting mad? Fame up the wazoo. Yeah. He even

put a story up that he like I don't know, sold out like a million albums or something. Shut up. Yeah. And he pretended to be like upset that he was duped, like that the producers didn't tell him what he was coming for, but like don't pretend Chase Rice. Yeah. Even though he's kind of cute.

No, he's cute, but you can tell even in their conversation where Victoria is like, this is so awkward like what do I do and he's like yeah what's good for you? I remember when I saw them on the side I was like they don't because then she was like okay bye and she just like walked away and there was no hug or anything like that I remember

thinking it was weird. They could literally they don't even know each other. So that's what I'm saying that I don't blame her I don't think I don't let's like try to not blame her for a second and blame like production you know what I mean but she was like my ex-boyfriend oh my god like she made a whole thing of it I dated him that's why I broke up with him because he wasn't like you never dated him you had a night oh that's even

lamer and then Peter's like so upset by it he's like we made out like in front of your ex like that never happens like that's and it's just like and the story is that she slid into his DMs like that's how they even hooked up yeah which is kind of like okay so you're thirsty from before she's thirsty DAF. And then didn't you see the, when she thought they were going skydiving? And she was like so scared, but she like had been skydiving for fun. Didn't you see is Ariel's way to say, I saw this in your stories, Amanda? I said, didn't I not say, didn't you? Oh, like I meant like you posted it. Yeah. So she's kind of full of shit. She's full of shit. Like so full of shit. And she's like, well, she's like really impressive because like that's really great acting. Like I believe her. I can't get over.

We're acting and we'll move with this into Vanderpump Rules, which I know you haven't caught up on yet, but obviously it's my BBs, so I am all cut up. I mean, I'm not really sure what I've done to you, but I'll take a Pinogrigio. So, listen, I have a lot of things to say about this new season. A, there are moments when I, you know, miss old seasons, and there are moments when I say, yay, they're bringing it back. There are moments when it feels a little bit more produced, a little bit more contrived than older seasons. You know, it's not like it used to be. They're all in full makeup and eyelashes, and it didn't, like, old Vanderpump, what was so beautiful about it was that it was like raw and real.

And they were literally waitressing and they were literally like, you know, stuffing their bras. And they were literally like living in shitty apartments. And now they're grown up. And now they have hair and makeup for every episode, even if they're like sitting at home and chilling. So it's a different vibe, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they're rich now, so that's also a different vibe. Yeah. But the drama seems a little bit contrived, even though, you know, I talk to a lot of Vanderpump people, and I know from the inside that, like, it's legit. So on one hand, sometimes I feel like it's contrived. In the other hand,

like, I tell you, like, I'm a loyal-ass bitch, so I'm not going to out everything that I'm told, because I'm told it in confidence, but it's real. They're still very upset about things that go down on the show. They tell me about it. And I'm like, okay, wow, this isn't for joke scenes. They're very into it.

And there's a reason why they're in reality TV because they can be as passionate about what happened when they were filming six months ago. And speaking about Oscar winning, I was telling you that, you know, we found out, I didn't know there was a thing called like a pickup shot, which Ariana made me aware of. you could see this on one of the episodes where Ariana was talking to Lisa

and she had short hair and then long hair and some people noticed it and then she said it was a pickup shot which means that they didn't have enough footage for that conversation so they had to go back in film meaning it's not like a natural conversation you're going back and filming you're wearing the same thing for continuity like no but if they did their jobs right wouldn't they also like look at the hair or Ariana had that day and try to make it

she probably didn't want to cut it for the shot so they thought that by putting it back it would like you know what I mean so it is it is problematic continuity wise like obviously in movies that's what they do you know what I mean they have to do that kind of shit but with this specifically I guess it happened

six months I mean they filmed the pickup shot for Ariana scene six months later and it was very yeah and it was a very raw they do those shots like when the show was being edited, you know what I mean? I see. Because then they realized, wait, we don't have enough for this conversation. And then it makes it feel less real because the

conversation between Lisa and Ariana was like about Ariana's like depression. And it was six months ago. And, you know, it was so real and it felt like really like she was opening up and then you were like, wait. And then she had to go back, know what she said, expand on it,

shoot it from a few angles. So all of a sudden I'm like, shit. Like, are they Oscar-fucking winning actors? They really are. That's what they are. But I feel like if I was asked to get back into a conversation with you, but something like that's real to me. You may be able to, like, really say how you feel.

That's why Ariana said, like, so the second pickup shot I was made aware of is, you know, for all of you watching, the Stasi and Sandoval, I'm going to call it book signing gate. So basically I'll tell her yell because she hasn't watched And then you can, you know, express your opinion in real time Tell me what you think Basically Stasi was doing a book signing She wanted to do it at Tom Tom She told Schwartz and apparently if even Lisa knew about it

And it was like, you know, okay by them And even they show a clip of Sandoval Schwartz selling Sandoval And Sandoval's saying, oh, okay, cool It's 50, 60 people. Okay, cool. And then the night before the event, apparently Sandoval started freaking out because, like, maybe there, he says there weren't, like, enough bartenders or something like that.

He texted Stasi, you know, something really mean, like, you know, you can't just, you know, spring this event on us like this and, like, fuck you. And I'm going to, you know, kick you the fuck out of Tom Tom, if you show up to something really aggressive, really uncalled for. Now, when she gets that text message out of nowhere, you see the scene and she's like, Bo, come here right now. oh my god you know sandoval texted me this and she reads him and he's like what a dick and like well and then aryana told me it's a pickup shot basically stasi had to reenact her rage over the text why i don't know because maybe oh i'll tell you why there's some situation pickup shots are like i told you you don't have enough footage yeah some are we didn't get on camera when stasi read the text and it's important for the storyline.

You understand? Yeah. So it's not, so reality isn't all made up, but you have to fill in the blank sometimes. Did you believe them? Like, was it believable? So Oscar winning.

Oscar winning? Like, Boe even? Like, Bo was like... Bo was an actor. Bo's in commercials. Bo's a casting. He's even the best. He's so good.

But anyway, so, you know, this drama kind of unfolded throughout even more than one episode. and it just seemed a little bit like... Was the book signing at the Tom Tome? So the book signing was a Tom Tom, and then Tom Sandoval showed up, and then there was screaming,

and Stasi screamed at Sandoval and said that he's a, you know, basically can't be happy for his success, and he needs to be the one that's shining, and Katie said to him that he's jealous and all the shit. And his thing is like, no, like you just said it only to Schwartz, and I didn't know and Schwartz doesn't know anything

about the restaurant he doesn't even know how to sign into the computer No, I can't yeah, yeah threw him under the bus. So what is Shorts doing?

Shorts? Yeah. We're going back to you calling him pants. So then, so basically you remember from watching all the other seasons

like Schwartz and Sandoval usually like love each other are there for each other through fire and water here was like he was throwing him under the bus

and then Schwartz was basically being like Sanobal's being a dick like why would he react like everything's okay he knew about it it like yeah so basically it is kind of confusing why sandoval would get so upset about it when everything was okay obviously he knew about it obviously schwartz knew about it obviously schwartz is

not organizing the event they have people doing it yeah so it's like why do you get so upset why these so that's why is the whole thing made up but then i told you the cast involves me and sends me messages about these things and they're so angry about it and they're still thinking about it and they send me their points so then i'm like wait it's not made up it's for real real, you know? No, I don't even know what to believe. I don't, I have no idea. The fact that you can do a pickup shot.

Wait, can we talk about Stasi starting to follow me on Instagram the day I talked shit about her? No, I can't. Tell me it. What? That was like. Ariel, like, was so mad at me. She's like, why do you have to talk shit?

And I was like, no, I was actually really mad. But then, like, maybe she appreciates it, you know? So I never thought Stasi would follow me. A lot of the cast does, but I never thought she did because A, she follows six, six six people and to follow someone she has to unfollow someone be like she has this aura of like queen be like you know too good for anything so you know i'm i'm just humble little me and i and i don't expect is i don't expect anything and no that was definitely a good day and it's a good follow it's a follow and because she had to unfollow someone like who got unfollowed for her to follow me

and then the day one of the episodes comes out and she actually as you guys probably noticed this whole season she talked about ranch probably 3,572 times. I was like, we get it, ranch, you're a basic bitch. And then all of a sudden I go into my notifications and I see her name and I'm like, wait, what? Like go in. See, she's following me immediately because I'm a pussy, you guys. I never said I wasn't.

I'm like, shit, I talk shit. Go back, see my story and see her little face on the bottom because if you follow someone, I'll, like, obviously I can't scroll through all the people watching my story, but I just saw her face on the bottom. And I was like, she saw it. Oh, my God. And then I go into her profile. I'm like, she's still following.

And she had six, six, seven at that point. I'm like, wait, she's going to have to decide if town follows someone for me. Because she's into, like, seen. So she has sex, six, six, six. So I kept looking. Yeah, guys, I'm a freak. And then I'm like, she removed someone and it wasn't me. No, I was legit telling mom that I was so mad at you.

I was like, why does she have to talk shit? Stasi's great. No, but Stasi's great. Like, I was like, and I was so mad at you. You think I'm jealous of her, which I am, and I've said it before, and I've admitted it. No, I know that. Well, it's good that you have self-awareness. Babe, that's my number one quality.

I know, I know, but I was just like, Stasi's like, you know, like that's, that's amazing, you know? Like, Stasi is the one that's hustling, and I know you hate when I say this. I hate when you say that. But she's hustling the most out of all of them, and she's making shit happen. You can't say she's not. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, you know, I've explained this to you about this a lot of times, like, when you're really successful, that's when you attract a lot of, like, negativity. Of course. And I obviously, when I hate on people, it's not in a malicious way. If I've hit. And I think every time I spoke about her, you know, the basic bitch thing, she obviously doesn't give a shit. That's her brand. She's pushing it. Like, I'm allowed to say it, whatever. But I think that I've always said that, you know, you get triggered by things because you would. want that too or you are jealous or you. So obviously, except where, oh, I think when Ariana was on my podcast, I was talking about Tyler C because I can't stop. And then she's like, and then I was

telling Ariana, I was like, listen, usually when I don't like people, I try to think of why and I try to think if I have like an issue with them. So when Ariana was on and I was talking shit about Tyler C, I told her usually when I don't like people, I try to figure out why, like, do I want to be them? Am I jealous? Do they bring out something, you know, whatever, trigger something in me. And she was like, yeah, I was going to ask, like, do you want to be Tyler C? And I thought that was funny. So with Sassie, I think that A, I think she triggers people sometimes because the basic bitch thing is a little bit over the top. You know what I mean? It's very like sparkly and branch, you know. And also that she's doing so well. And like I, you know, I told you

about Bravo Conwin, the host asked, who's the most famous, everyone's screaming Sassie. It doesn't bring out like, oh, I'm so happy for her. It's kind of like, oh, like there are other people. but it's true yeah who is more more famous so even katy said in reference to the fight this like book signing fight she was like if you saw at bravo con when the host asked that question sandoval was the only one who didn't say saucy what did sandoval say so I asked her and she was like I think he just like brushed it off and said you know someone else that's so funny that they even noticed that and it's so funny that she like remembers she's like when the host asked at bravo That's what I'm telling you.

That's why they're on reality TV. Because they legit remember every single little thing. Oh my God. This is why this is my, you know, show because I'm, A, I'm in it. Like, I'm about to get on it, like, as the mediator. I'm, like, ready. Like, legit, like, I'm in it to win it. And I actually couldn't make my mind up about the book signing event.

I kept on going back and forth. I, from the beginning, I said, it's not Stasi's fault. She lets someone know, it doesn't matter who. It doesn't matter who. And if anything, it may be Schwartz's fault. If he didn't communicate to Sandoval, but at the end of the day, they did show a clip that Schwartz said to Sandoval and Sandoval was like, oh, cool, 50 to 60 people. So whoever's fault it is, it's definitely not Stasi's for throwing an event there and

bringing paying customers, you know? But we also don't know, like, not if this was all for this show, but like, I'm sure that Tom Tom would love to have Stasi and her book signing there and it's all fine. Well, she didn't, yeah, but that's what I'm saying. So the drama, like, I think Sandoval drunk texted probably at 4 a.m. And he didn't want to cave and say, like, you know. And she probably triggers him.

That's, you know, I said this, I think, to Ariana. He doesn't like her, you know? And she even said it, sorry, Stasi also said it on the show. She was like, Sanneville never liked me. And they showed clips back from like season one. When it was, you know, that he was like, fuck you, Stasi. And like, she always triggered him. He probably never really liked her.

and he still doesn't so he's not happy for a success and probably it came out. So it's definitely not her fault. She didn't deserve that kind of message. She did nothing. She was trying to celebrate there. So that's my final thought on, you know, book eight. And we'll come right back and we'll move on to other stuff. Before we get to two superstars and their new,

documentaries. I just wanted to say, did you see the video I put up of Halsey, like, cursing out G. Easy at her concert. Wait, what's happening in Hollywood? What a fucking boss lady. Like, also kind of scary. Also kind of still, like, really heated about whatever the fuck he did. I mean, he must have done something like, he cheated. He cheated galore. But like, to get the entire crowd to chant with you so basically uh halsey had a show some fan yelled g easy and she's like what'd you say motherfucker like she was trying to look for that again where are you like come forward like don't say his name here and disrespect me in my show and then the whole crowd she's like fuck that guy then the whole crowd is like fuck g easy fuck that guy fuck that guy and then i don't know if i put up this

part it was at the end she was like okay now i'm going to go sing you know the number two song of the fucking decade which song was that Do you know? I think it was closer. Okay. I'm assuming. Which, like, was my fucking jam. Oh, my God.

Like, only to say a long time. So I think I've said this before when we talked about Halsey. Arielle and I ended up at a Halsey concert by accident a couple years ago at Madison Square Garden. A couple of years ago, not that long ago. It was legit. Well, she still had a Madison Square Garden show. Yes. So she wasn't like that small.

But I never heard of her. No, we never heard of her. Never heard of her. We got tickets. She was never on the radio at that. point. She didn't have like number one singles. No, she didn't have singles out. It was more like these undergroundy songs that we actually really liked. Remember, we downloaded them all. I'm obsessed with all her old songs. Like as soon as we found out we were going, don't you

remember, we listened and we fell in love. And that's when the first time when we were like, wait, it's kind of nice to go to concerts that you don't know the artist because you're like, oh, like I can dig. Yeah. Yeah. But it's really, I still don't understand how she was at Madison Square Garden at that point because it wasn't like, really a lot of people knew who she was. Maybe she had a lot of like underground, like fans from, maybe she was on YouTube. I don't actually know her story. But that show was one of the best that we've been to.

I know. And we've been to Justin Timberlake at the, we've been to Madison Square Garden at the suite. Sorry. Even Justin Timberlake, Justin Bieber. And we were kind of disappointed. And then both Drake, we were kind of disappointed. Like a lot of them, because it's so different when you go to see an artist that you know all their songs, You want to sing along, you want to dance.

And then you're like, wait, I could have heard this shit on the radio and bopped at my house, you know, if this is what it's going to be. Especially when they're not putting on, like, the performance of a lifetime. This is such a good segue. Two. What is that? No, I know your segue. And I got really excited about it. Because it's, like, natural.

It's so natural. Because Justin Beaver, we saw him on the purpose tour. And he looked so off to us. He wasn't dancing. It wasn't whatever. And, you know, flash forward to his. new YouTube documentary seasons or show, whatever you would call it, where he talks about having to stop the show because he wasn't a good place.

He never tells us really why, like what was going on. But you can obviously see that the guy has been suffering for the past years and now he's still struggling, but it looks like, you know, with Angel Baby Haley, he's trying to pull out of it. But like obviously he has a lot of issues. He has mental health issues. I'm sure depression, anxiety. and also he came out lately that he has Lyme disease

and I'm sure there's some drug addiction well he also talked about the fact that he was like fucked up all like and also his managers and Scooter Braun and all those people do say like there was a time where they were concerned that Justin wouldn't wake up in the morning so obviously we're talking about drugs you know drugs here yeah they don't tell us which exactly but anyway what do you think of seasons

it was really interesting because it's Justin Bieber and Haley and she's obviously an angel baby but it was not that interesting at the same time like I felt like you know it was nice to see him and in the studio but you also like that's all they showed like we didn't really get an inside look

into Justin Bieber they showed him making his new album which he's about to promote kind of superficial it was kind of touching the surface it was just touching the surface and it makes sense that it would come out now because his album hasn't come out yet but it's going to very soon so it's promoting the album because he's recording all these songs that are going to be on the album. So it's like

you only saw a little bit of what he was going through. Yeah, the first episode they showed where he used to live and that was crazy to think that like he could go from there to what he is today and to see like, you know, how becoming such a huge pop star overnight when you're 15 can just like fuck you up for life. But I mean, I just didn't, I didn't like feel so connected at the end of it. I think it's doing him a disservice that Taylor has came out at the same. time. Legit a week later and Taylor's was like so different. Because I think with Taylor's like on Netflix, it's like an hour and a half. So you get to really get into it with Justin's. It's literally 10 minutes each episode of like seven minutes of them being him in the studio like singing

to like a song. And they really try to make it sound like he's really involved in the process like in the interviews. Like Justin will like think of things and tell me and I'll like write it or you know. And then, you know, his writer is like, okay, I'm going to say, I'm going to love you. And then Justin Bieber is like, how about we say, I'm going to love you? And then it's cooler. And then his songwriter is like, oh, my God, that's a vibe. Like, I'm going to love you. And Justin Bieber is like, I'm going to love you.

And then they just show us that it was going to, but then he changed it to gun, like, G-O-N. Yeah, and his poo bear, who writes all his songs for him, Poo-Bair is so good. But when he writes all his songs for him, he also sings them. So Justin, like, knows how to sing them afterwards. Right. And so, like, he's got a good, he has a good voice, and he can dance, and he has a good team. But then when you see Taylor's and you're like, no, this girl, like, writes her songs. Well, she's a musician, Justin, I don't, I don't know.

Yeah, so, and Taylor's. They're on the same, they're both in the same category. But what's really cute about both of them and what I admire is that they both wanted to do this. they were babies. Like Justin was on the steps in like Canada you know singing and he was a very talented little boy

like he didn't just get discovered for nothing but in comparison to Taylor who you know they showed in her documentary her getting a guitar when she was like literally six or something and her at 13 being so articulate about what she wants to do where she wants to be

you know her family moved to Nashville to for her to develop in country music she did develop in country music so she also had such a specific niche like she wanted to be a country artist she didn't just want to be like famous you know she wanted to be in country and I'm getting goosebumps

I remember when you were watching and I told you like I'm so emotional and like I'm not you know my love for like I love Taylor Swift but I'm not like a Swift where everything she'd do I'd love and the documentary really really moved me because seeing someone know what they want

get it you know you know she deserves it in stride and rightfully so um and being just like a smart young lady you know and very like it seems like very mentally stable at the same time that's what i less connect to i know that's what you less connect to but i'm just saying to remain that is like really hard that's what i think is a little maybe unrelatable because like with justin you you're like oh poor babies like in the hyper you know oxygen chamber and and you could so understand that everything he went through would bring him to where he is and with taylor it's like whoa like you kept your shit together girl like how like you know but think about like there's different personalities and the one i can think of

is like Justin timberlake and brittany spears kind of had the same thing and he's pretty sane and she's really not good example so like there are different people that just like have different like mental states and can deal with things yeah you know can cope with things she definitely had a lot to say and there were parts that were very emotional and things that she went through and that you feel for her but

I felt throughout the whole thing like she has her shit together yeah you know like she's drunk dude when they showed the Kanye West thing oh my god like it was 2009 you cried you cried you cried you cried you did you cry because I think in 2009

I was in college if not studying abroad so i don't think i was like living it like i would have today if it happened and watching that moment and she's 17 she's not 25 she's not she's a little girl watching that moment and they showed that before like she was so excited to you know be there and and and be recognized and watching that moment and her being like oh my god you guys and saying this and then connie fucking west who she probably admires comes up and is like, this should have gone to Beyonce and getting off the stage. And then she's left there with the microphone.

My heart would, like, I felt so bad. Like, and I don't think then, you know, when it came out, people, it was very sensational. So people thought about how crazy it was, but like how she might have felt. Right. Because in, in her, you know, documentary, you're through her point of view. So at that moment, I was just like, I felt like I was her. I was like, oh my God, like, how would you have felt? And then they showed her interviews after.

And she was like, they were like, what do you think about, you know, Kanye West? And she was like, um, yeah, I don't really know him. Yeah, and they were like, were you a fan? And she was like, I was. Yeah. And it was just like so. And then thinking about, you know, him putting her in his songs and I made that bitch famous. Like, no, you didn't.

That bitch earned it. And me and Taylor, like, and then thinking about him saying that, him thinking that him doing that as a VMA's made her famous when she fucking won that VMA in her own right. Yeah. It's like crazy and makes you kind of hate Kanye. Yeah, no. And I also just think like that it's very... And then he put her in the video

that he's like fucking her, you know, body or whatever. And the fact that Kim, you know, was also kind of involved in... Yeah. And they released that video where he's supposedly telling her about that song. But then she retaliated and said,

where in that, you know, recording of him telling me, did he say, I'm going to call you a bitch, you know, and, you know, have sex with you, whatever. They put like that doll, that doll of her in the video. It was a very, but her whole thing, you know, it's really good. I think, you know, it's hard to understand a person who goes through that much and is so stable, but also that, you know, Ariel is telling me she's so relatable, but the only thing maybe that isn't is that she's on private jets like all the time but didn't you feel that like she's very I feel like she's very grounded nothing is so like she doesn't look glamorous

she does she looks like a normal person she speaks like a normal person her nails are normal her mom is the cutest she said she does her own nails like she's her own nails because she can't like go out really so when she's really heard on herself which that was maybe a little bit She made it a very big point to discuss in the documentary that all she wanted her whole life was the applause and the people, you know, affirming her and loving her. And that she's like a good girl. She's doing well. She's, everything's good. Like, she's, so.

And I don't think, and at the end of the day, she was saying, like, like, I don't think there was some sort of, like, conclusion to that. Like, I think that that's part of her and it'll continue to be. Do you get what I mean? Like, I don't think it fucked her up. I don't think it let her. hurt to failures. She very much tried to paint this thing of like, you know, she was trying to say that because she put so much pressure on that, like getting admiration and getting the love and getting the support that when, you know, there's a bad article written about you or people don't like you

or don't like your music, then you take it very hard because that's all you want. Yeah. So I get it, but I don't like feel so bad about it. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like I feel like that makes sense. But when she was talking about like the haters that she gets, because we know the Twifties, right? We know that army. We know she's loved. But to see the hate and how that can hurt is a lot. But you know what else? Like amaze me. Because again, it's like so much news goes on. You know, I wasn't always like covering celebrity gossip like to the extent I am today. And with her sexual assault thing, she fucking queened that shit. She queen that. And people I think were hating on her for that. But what they didn't realize is that she got sued. She was sued. She was sued. And she countered for a dollar. Which makes her a fucking queen. A freaking queen.

Like she, first of all, she should, like this guy, this DJ, whoever the dude was, in a picture where you can see it was like grabbing her ass and he put her his hand up her pants. But she wasn't going to do anything about it. Which is like she should have. She should have, but she wasn't. And then he sued her for defamation because like he got fired because of it because like someone from her team told like the radio station that he worked at. he sued her for defamation for like a million dollars and she was like what motherfucker and counters sued him for a dollar for the sexual assault and what she said was also chilling is like she had seven eyewitnesses and a fucking photo and it was still hard at the end of the day

to get people to believe her and to side with her and she was like think about those people who don't have that who just have to say he raped me he assaulted me or whatever and that was really moving and what she did and the fact that she did for a dollar and she didn't try make any money of it like she does come out great she comes out on top and with the political stuff that she was talking about as well she was so emotional about it talking to her dad just begging to be able to like speak her mind and like the consequences that that would have but she still wanted to do it anyway i don't know like i i finished it and i watched half of it again with you like i'm a swifty i might be a swifty and sing her like write her songs and like how each thing is

So it's like, lover, lover, like, okay, just like, come up with that in a minute, why don't you? She does everything as opposed to Justin Bieber. She writes, she, you know. She comes up with the melody. I remember my husband was here when I was watching and he's like, wait, does she, like, play any instruments? I was like, every instrument she fucking does. So she's really amazing. And her mom is so cute.

I know. I feel so bad that her mom is sick. She's like, yeah, her mom is so cute. And when she talked about her eating disorder, um, and. and like how she was so tiny and like she was like that wasn't the way my body was supposed to be

and I feel like like it was very like you can connect to that because like we see all these like unrealistic like oh maybe it's like genetic is it supposed to be that way they're eating

the models are eating pizzas and burgers though because we did think that about Taylor we did no one ever thought Taylor might have a problem you thought Taylor

is this lanky tall really skinny girl that's the way she is look how she filled out and she looks freaking amazing, but look how much more normal her body looks today. No, and then they showed footage

back of award shows, you know, remember that award show and she looked like Anna Wintor? Yeah. It's like, wait, she was skeleton. Yeah. And we didn't think of it. Like, we were like, oh, our hair looks like Anna Wintor. You know what I mean? Because it just looked normal to what she was. And

I really like that she, you know, she's supposed to be, like, she's a size six now and she is not going to be a double zero and she's not supposed to be a double zero. And it's important for everyone to know that probably the people that we see that are very, very skinny, a large, large, large percentage of them aren't naturally that way and have to work very hard at it, sometimes unhealthily, to get there. So, you know, don't curse out your parents for their genes and, you know, know that being healthy. She said, I rather people call me fat than

then looks sick. That was, yeah, that was a really, like, that was a really good line because, like, it's so true. It's like people want to look so skinny all the time. And she's saying, I rather people call me fat than to look sick. And she really did look sick. Yeah. Well, anyway, go watch both. Do you think there are going to be more episodes of seasons? No, that's it. What? That was his documentary. What do you mean? No, you're lying. No, that was his dog. The last one is Haley? Yeah. No, you're lying. No, that's it. Okay, so it's bad. Sorry, guys. I thought there was more. No, that's it. It was basically just to promote his new album that's coming out. Why do you think that's it? Because that's it. No. No, that was it. That was seasons.

Are you, okay. This is the one time that you say no and I'm right. Wait, how many seasons are there in a year four? So there were four episodes? That would make sense. Okay. Four episodes. You're confused now.

Ariel's like, how many seasons? Don't ask me. No. That was, it was released at once. The documentary was released at once. It was episode one, two, three, four and they were eight minutes each. And literally, like you said, seven out of the eight minutes is him in the studio saying,

yummy, yummy, yummy, yummy, yum, yum, yeah, yeah, yeah. La Bonita, get up, but the pass. What is that? And then you're like, he writes his own songs and stash. Problems not. Obviously with Justin, it's like we wish him well and are glad he's going to bet. You know, if he can perform the way he used to, then he's golden. You know what I mean?

Yeah. He is really cute. Nobody, I mean, like, there are just some things that you see that when you compare Miss Americana to seasons. Yeah. Can we talk for a second about story me? Dallas. Stop. Enough.

That's it. We're done. Well, you know that I'm, like, been hating on Kylie lately, like, the Lord. Like, it's almost, like, an, like, I don't follow if this wasn't, like, my craft. I don't follow her. Did you know that? I just go into her page, like, once in a while, but I don't, I don't follow her. And you know what's most upsetting about Stormy World?

She came out with a palette or whatever she calls it for Stormy. That she's using her daughter for fucking money. She had a huge fucking bash for it last week for this Stormy collection. And then it's Stormy's birthday. And that bash was like just as big as like Stormy's birthday bash. And it was all about Stormy. And I'm just like thinking, I'm like, how is this child going to grow up? When like, like, what is this?

This is your second birthday? But also, like, if you're going to be lavish, then at least be original Kylie. Because you did that stupid-ass circus, like stormy blow-up doll where you walking through her mouth already. When? Last birthday. Last birthday. I don't even remember. I can't even keep up.

Did that blow-up doll with the mouth open look new to you? No, it didn't. I know it happened already. So at least be original Kylie. I'm so over her, Ariel. We need a new word for over. Like, I don't even know. what to tell you. I'm so fucking over it. I think it's literally disgusting. Yeah, I don't know.

I have no comment on it. I have no comment. Her BFF and Scott Dissick's GF, Sophia Richie, put up an ad this week that I died from and had to post about it. You know, she was just the worst influencer I've ever seen. She shouldn't be an influencer. Let me just tell you guys. A quick recap is, you know, let's say the product is called straws. So she's like, oh my God, you guys, I want to tell you about a new product that I'm obsessed with. It's called, looks at packaging because forgets name, straws. Oh my God, you guys, packaging is so cute. I'm literally obsessed.

Packaging is legit, just like white with black dots. I'm legit obsessed with straws, like obsessed. Opens package for the first time because it has never used said product. reads off the box what flavors they have because it's like these bars then proceeds to hold a normal sized bar and say how perfectly sized it is to put in your purse or put in your glove compartment

like it's a bar like what you wanted to be the size of like the whole car then she proceeds to read off the flavors from the thing like cocoa chai oh my god I love cocoa then she takes a bite oh my god that bite was the most horrendous thing I've ever seen Like she takes this like like your like

Let's say you have She takes a bite as if she has red lipstick And she's trying not to get it on it And she's trying to like just use like the tip for the tooth And then there's this like a tiny little bite And then she looks in the camera and is like It tastes healthy And I'm like

Who says it tastes healthy? Like that's a bad thing Like let it be healthy But taste like the worst thing for you in the world If you want to like say it's good. I wonder if they've, you know, reversed her check. Literally. Like, I don't think you should get paid if you're going to do such a bad job at, like, advertising a product.

To the point where, like, it literally looks like you don't give a shit what you're saying. You just, like, have the product in the frame and that's all that. No, I can't. Who says that? Like, I legit can't. No, I legit couldn't, you guys. In quick other news, Channing, Tatum and Jesse Jay are back together. they kind of like blasted that shit like hey we're back together here's this here's us like very

kind of weird like who you know why are you so public about it you know from the bachelor world grocery store Joe and Kendall Long broke up and you said probably because she just didn't want to get married and have kids but they blamed it on him wanting to be in Chicago and her in LA but then but he moved that's a thing and then people told me that ever since dancing with the stars, he's been in LA. He's been in LA. They got a house together. And they got a house and like a dog.

Yeah, they got a house together. They moved into a house. So that's what I'm saying, I think, my gut feeling is that he's a little older and you could tell that he's like a family guy. He's like a Midwestern family guy. Yeah. She's a young from California. Yeah.

And, you know, the same way, oh my God, a few weeks ago when Colton, when Cassie put up a thing. Colton's moving into his new house Flash forward 15 years You know 15 years you'll see them Why don't they want to live together

What's happening They don't want to live together Well she's still in I don't fucking know I don't know either I don't know But yeah So Joe moved to Los Angeles

And into a house So it really doesn't make sense That like They haven't even been in that house For like six months So it doesn't make sense That he would like be like I want to go back

to Chicago. Like, they just move it in together. Can Joe date, like, Kendall or something? I feel like he needs, like, just, like, a, I don't know. I really want to see him, like... He's so cute. He is so cute. I don't know.

I don't, you know, I don't know if I'm buying what she's selling. Well, they came up with that... She is quirky. Yeah. I'm not funny. The taxidermy thing, she said in an interview, she, like, taxidermied was. or something. She's not actually like a taxid or a freak.

No, I've never seen it since. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But she just had to make herself like stand out. Yeah. Anyway, you guys, thank you for tuning it. No, I really need to give like, we need to talk about Kobe Bryant.

Oh, okay. I just like need to like. I know. I wrote it in my thing and like, yeah. I just wanted to say that like it was like a really sad thing that happened. And like ever since it happened, like I had such a hard time not thinking about it. Are you crying? about it, makes me emotional.

Yeah. That's so many families, not even just Kobe Bryant, but his daughter and the other family that was on board and then the other, the coach that was on board, and there were two 13 year olds on board and it's just like sending all the positive vibes

to those families and just like hoping that they can get through this rough time and just like keeping them in my prayers. Really? Oh, you're so cute. It was literally one of those things where when the news popped up for me. I was like, you know, and it's one of those things where my husband was like,

what happened? And I was like, you know, Kobe Bryant. And I don't even, you know, watch basketball or know that much about him. But for some reason, that news like hit hit me so hard. And, you know, we're both like we don't like flying so much. So, you know, reading about, you know, what went down and how it happened and everything, at least trying to understand. why something so unnecessary and so tragic would happen, you know, because so many times in life you like to be like, oh, God has a reason for everything. You know, even if you're not that religious or say like everything happens for a reason and you're like, wait, except like awful fucking shit that happens to like innocent people

that, you know, and children. So it's just really awful. It's really awful. And it's something that doesn't is really, like you said, like unnecessary and it didn't need to happen and it's just you know

you never know is like try to live really I know I'm I so don't adhere to that though you know I so don't put things in perspective and I so can complain about small things and I so

do the same thing every day and like I don't do that but if you can you do I know but I love everyone around you and and you know be grateful for every day and batch it happens batch it happens and it's just it was so crazy to me to think of and see like just 11 p.m. the night before he was posted a picture and like tweeted and like was in completely good condition and it was healthy so I just think like to be thankful for

your every day and to like tell the people around you you love them and just to um you know really try even though like it's hard to adhere to that just like really try to keep that in mind because life is very actually fragile. It is really fragile. Yeah, life is crazy. Our sister just broke her foot like in her house and like 17 places and like needed surgery. I need to like lay for three months and it's so random. And at the same time like I know it sucks for her but I try to just be like listen like you broke your foot and it's awful and it sucks but you know at least you're okay and everyone's okay. Yeah, like you know you can always say it could be worse but like It could be worse.

It could be worse. And RIP Kobe Bryant and everyone that was on, you know, that helicopter. And I hope that, you know, nothing like this happens again. And that, you know, helicopter, um, the FAA for helicopters, whatever it is. You know, learn from it and make sure it doesn't happen again and, and, uh, uh, okay, guys, thanks for listening. And I love you. And don't forget to rate and review the podcast on. Apple Podcasts. We are, you know, doing so well, climbing up those numbers. If you haven't, then

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