Not Skinny But Not Fat - New Celeb Relationship Deepdives

Episode Date: September 3, 2019

As always, the world of celeb hookups and breakups are ever changing. The newest and most exhilarating new relationship belongs to Tyler Cameron, The Bachelorette runner up and supermodel Gigi Hadid. We take a deep dive into how their relationship started and how its been evolving- we got all the deets! We also discuss Miley and Liam’s shocking breakup, alongside Brody Jenner and Kaitlynn’s divorce, and Miley and Kaitlynn’s overseas hookup. Yep, we know it’s a lot to keep track of so this podcast is here to help!See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Leonardo DiCaprio tells you to come over. Like, you run over. You run over. You helicopter. No. You bungee jump over. Whatever you need to do. He's like a 16 hour flight away.

You book that flight. This is not skinny but not fat. And I'm your host, Amanda, here to bring you the latest in all pop culture news, celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps. Anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny, but Not Fat. Back today with my Cisterj slash co-host, Ariel. Thank you for joining me on this very important episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat, where we're going to do a Tyler, Cameron, and Gigi-Hadid relationship deep dive,

as well as a Brody and Caitlin slash My. Miley and Liam also deep dive, breakup, relationship, getting together, hooking up, all that stuff. I'm so excited. This is so important. Like, I can't even tell you. I feel like I've literally like had hours worth of conversation about this this week with you, with everyone. It's like a roller coaster. It was so funny. Was it like two weeks ago? I think we were at our nephew's first birthday party. We were somewhere public, which makes it like a little more funny. And were talking about this or something. And I was like, Ariel, what do I always say about rumors? And I said it so seriously. I was like, what? When they're usually true. They're usually true.

They're usually true. Anyway, it was so funny the way Ariel took it so seriously. I was like, Ariel, what do I always say about rumors? And she was like, that they're always true or something. They're always true. And like, that's the thing. Okay, let's start from the beginning. Hold on, but the, like, small rumors are usually, like, can be less true. But when there's, like, a giant rumor that's almost, like, unbelievable. Unbelievable. And you're like, no way. The way Jordan and Tristan, Jordan Gate was.

And, like, with G.G. Hadid and Tyler Cameron from Hannah Seizun of the Bachelorette. Bachel Nation say what? Oh, my God. Oh, oh, oh, oh, my God. You know, it came out on, I think it was in July. end of July. Okay, you guys, there's a story that they're following each other on Instagram, which isn't a rumor. It's obviously you could easily check that they're following each other. And it's sort of like, does she, is she a fan of the Bachelorette? Like, does she think he's odd? Like, you know, no one really went as far as to think, like, that they're hooking up. You know what I mean? But my initial thought when I, when we discussed that is that like he's a model, and he's actually signed with somebody and she's a model. So, Maybe they, like, how do you have models there are in the world? Like, we talk about this today.

Usually, Bachelor Nation stays within Bachelor Nation. They usually don't mix with, she's kind of A-list, Gigi Hadid. I mean, she's a super model. I mean, because, like, when I think A-List, I think of like Angelina Jolie, but I'm saying in the model world and in the celebrity world, she's A-List. So for her to date a Bachelorette contestant. He's like an F-list celebrity. But we talked about this.

the most loved contestant of all times. He has, the most followers, I think a contestant has ever had. But you know why? It's because the times have changed. Even in the last year between the seasons, times have changed. Like, Instagram is just the biggest thing now. Right. But still, like, you know, compare and contrast.

Like we talked about Ari and the fact that he doesn't have as many. And not, I mean, yeah, times have changed. Like Cassie, Coulton. they're all like kissing the two million. But let's say if you go back, like Caitlin Bristow has been for years already and she probably has the same amount of followers. Yeah. And you know, Vanessa Grimaldi, who was on Nick's season,

which was like a little bit ago, but not that long ago. And she won. And they were so loved and she was the favorite one. She has less than a million. She does not have a million. So times have changed. Whenever we talk about this, I just want to have a million like myself. We're going to get there, Amanda.

I know that it's like quality over quantity. and I'll say that a thousand million times. And you guys, this is how I'll even, like, I realize this because I mean it, but I also realize that I commented, I'm not going to use any names here, but I commented on a big account that sometimes I get jealous of that they're very big. But on a big account, I commented on one of the photos something. I got attacked in the comments from, like, weird bots and, like, trolls that I don't have on my account.

Do you get what I mean? This is an account with like over a million followers. I commented on the, on some post, okay? And I got like trolls and bots respond to me and like attack me about something I wrote.

Yeah, I'll tell you about it later because I don't want to say anything about any specific account. But I'm just saying like accounts that are very big come with a lot more. Yeah, yeah. You know what I mean?

A lot more baggage. A lot more baggage and a lot more like trolls and bots and like people that, you know, are there for the wrong reasons. But what I'm saying is that's just me personally. I, you know, and it's a, and also for me, you know, that I started as a meme account, there are meme accounts that started a few years before me. And since they were kind of pioneers of the meme niche, they skyrocketed to millions of followers, whereas I am, you know,

putting in years of work. And it's like a slower, but steady. And I'm very thankful, growth, but it's not easy. And I think to it all, time is of the essence. You know, it depends when you do something, how you do something. So, you know, the first seasons of the Bachelor and Bachelorette didn't have social media.

You know, but you know what? And they were better. And they were so much better. It was real. People didn't come to be famous because you didn't get famous from the Bachelor. No, you were known as a like Trista and Ryan, let's say. You didn't get a job, a full-time job

from being on The Bachelor. They would go back home and work their normal job. You didn't get famous. It's really funny because someone said something so true to me. They were like, what if Bachelor contestants had to sign a waiver that they wouldn't do any ads for like a year

after the show or something, like how many would actually sign up? Or like if you couldn't have an Instagram. Do you get what I mean? Like if there were rules and I like no joke, I feel like there should be some rules in force because it is a, epidemic of people going on the bachelor as lame as it sounds to get fame only only only

only get fame and and people that are single go on to be famous and they can because they're single and even people with girlfriends go on or boyfriends go on to get famous. It's so bad like I would never want to be the bachelor or bachelor right now because I would just think like who's here like oh so if someone accidentally like kind of likes me But I know that they came here not at all to, like, experience this thing. It's just like, oh, you know, I came here for fame. But like, oh, my God, I actually kind of like this person. Like, that's fine.

I'm not saying none of the couples are real. We know Jojo and Jordan. We know a lot of couples. Ari and Lauren are also very in love. Like it did work. But I think, like, for the format to have a future, especially like you said, like we've been noticing, it's so much crazier. like Tyler Cameron has 2.1 million followers like Cassie and it keeps going up it keeps going up it's not

like you leave and like you get a you know a couple hundred thousand it's like in the millions which means major brand deals which means not to work another day in your life in a normal job right and pisses me off because even for I would prefer I know this is going to sound like crazy I would prefer a jed who like wants to his music to be heard or someone who has some startup who wants, you know, their startup to be, have exposure, rather than a person that is attractive that just wants fame from Instagram. From Instagram. But you know my next question is, Hannah G.

No, my. Like, what the fuck are you, Hannah G. Hold on. You know what my next question is. It pisses me on. Let me see if you can answer it. When they're older, like what are they going to do? What are they going to do?

Like a Lauren Bushnell who like, like, Caitlin Bristow tries to have size. gigs like she has her wine whatever and her scrunchies and her scrunchies but like people that don't have anything else going on well do like a clothing first of all the minute the clothing line is every clothing line going to be successful but the minute you have that's why we do like jojo and jordan they you know flip houses and they do Airbnbs they now have a show together they're hustling they're hustling but she also has like a clothing brand and he does like but i think that's important like because that's what i told you the other day about me for example let's bring her back to me um that my goal for my Instagram as it's grown and from this podcast and everything is like, yeah,

getting ads is great and it's an additional source of income and whatever, but that's not my goal in the account like to get more ads. Do you get what I mean? My goal is to. No, we're going to make you ease next best host. Yeah, my goal is for, first of all, to keep doing this. And second of Harrison, would you want to do that? Hondo would be to get for this as my platform and brand, and for opportunities to come of it that I enjoy doing. You know, they mean not, you know, it's, remember when we had Aaron Foster on and I love her and I think she's so talented and she's a writer

and she's hysterical and her and Sarah actually now signed like, I'm so happy for them. A deal with Fox? I think it was Fox. A big network. But they're going to be on TV. To write, they're going to write shows. I don't know if they're going to be on,

but they're going to produce and write. and whatever. But before that, they became kind of like Insta-famous over the last few years. And, you know, when she was interviewing at our podcast a few months ago, and I was like, what are you doing in New York? And she was here to, like, do like a tied brand deal, which is great. Like, it's money, tied the laundry. But I remember looking at her and thinking, like, she's so talented.

She's so funny. She has so much to say. But, like, what she's doing right now isn't really, like, her passion. You go to me? That's, like, selling laundry detergent. Um, so if that's what these bachelor, bachelor, bachelor wants to do, then fine. I think they're all so thirsty. And I think it's like, it's just become a shit show.

And I think there need to be more. There's nothing you can do that with the times that like, like now Instagram is huge, which is why the bachelor people are blowing up. Well, first of all, when you're doing casting, like do a better job at finding out if the people are there for the right reasons. Well, they choose people based on aesthetics. But listen, for example, Tyler, I just heard that he went on Nick Viles' podcast and said that, admitted that his agent wanted him to apply for both a Bachelorette and WWE, which if you guys don't know it, it's the fake wrestling. And basically he got accepted to Bachelorette not to W.W.E. So what I'm saying is it's a source of promoting your.

and getting famous and advancing your modeling career. But of course, when he presented it to Nick, he said, like, that he went, you know, that that's how it happened, but he did feel in love with Hannah. But you know what I think about that? I cannot imagine a parallel world in which right now Hannah and fucking Tyler are engaged. Like, no, he's not down with that. He would not have been down with that. It's bullshit.

I'm about to propose. I don't believe, like, I look back and I'm like, I don't believe it. But that's why we couldn't even believe Colton and Cassie. Like, that was freaking weird. You know, they are dating. I mean, they are dating and they see him in love, which is great. But, like, I could see only Hannah and Peter, honestly. Even Jedd, I was like, no, Tyler, no.

Like, Hannah and Peter, I could see them being together. I mean, she obviously showed us that she has not a good sense of judgment. Poor decision-making skills. Poor decision-making, like chooses Jed, then asks out the hottest bachelor in America right now on national TV that you dumped a minute ago and that is following Gigi Hadid on Instagram, that probably the whole world is sliding into his DMs and wanting to fuck him. That's the guy you want to start something with. And that same day, you found out that he saw Hannah. He also had lunch with a different Instagram person. Right.

Which is like so weird. So, yeah. So if we look at the timeline, so Gigi and Tyler started following each other at the end of July. Okay. Then on August 4th, they were at, they were seen at the Soho house in Brooklyn. Yes. Which, again, did we believe it at the beginning? No, but then.

And you didn't even believe. leave the picture. I remember. You were like it didn't. So see, that's my sentence to say, but I didn't believe it. But on August 2nd, so two days before he was seen with Gigi at the cell house, and then it was confirmed that it was her because there were pictures that were more up close and they were also pictures of them leaving. But Tyler was seen with Hannah outside of her residence in Los Angeles. Yeah. Seen in the morning in sport clothes. Like we don't know what happened there. So two days later, he was already seeing Gigi Hadid. Then, I think a day ago, I saw

the Violet Benson from Daddy issues, who's probably trying to, like, get some light in this drama. Like, I feel like she wants to kind of like, you know, because she threw herself in this situation, you know? I mean, she probably slid into his DMs. Oh, 100%. So she said she met Tyler for lunch the day that he was seen with Hannah and then she said that and she because people I posted this and people were like maybe

it was just like she was interviewing him or no she was like it was like a date a lunch date yeah and then um he goes back to New York meets Gigi we're all shooketh and since then he's been seeing Gigi so they were seen at August 4th at Soho House August 5th the day after they went bowling on August 12th they hung out um I think at her apartment August there's 18th, they hung out. And August 15th, they went to freaking Lake George together, their first vacay. I mean, listen, though. What? Like, would you not? With who? With either? No. First of all, play is going to play. He's good. He's the hottest commodity after Bachelor in Asia. Did he wants to date you? Like, fuck everything. I'll go to like, I don't even know where.

Like, I'd date Gigi Hadid. Of course. You know what I mean? Like, so he's taking that opportunity as he's Of course, as he should. My only qualm with it. And who wouldn't like he should, like he's thankful that she's into him, you know what I mean? Like, Gigi Hadid. It could be that he's so confident right now that like he thinks that he, that, duh, Gigi Hadid is into me. Right.

But like the rest of the world doesn't, I mean, maybe the rest of the world. The rest of the world thinks he's just as hot. Like, we don't. It's just the status. Like you came from The Bachelor and Gigi is Gigi Hadid. So I wonder like what her thoughts are about this, like about also being in like a love triangle with like a former bachelorette. But this is why I feel bad for Hannah. Like yes, a lot of people say like that they don't feel bad for her because she picked stupid Jed and she broke Tyler's heart.

And then she asked him out, which I feel like was sort of also distasteful of her because she didn't pull an R.A., which was I've made the wrong choice, broke up. up with Becca, went to Lauren said, I actually love you. Hannah picked this guy, Jed. Turns out he was an asshole player. Came to Tyler, was like, so you want to go on a date? Like, it's this tasteful. She shouldn't have done that. If he would have asked her out, it would have been one thing. If Pilate P would have been asked her out, I think that you just got your heartbroken. Like, I respect her for breaking it off with Jed because she could have given him another chance and she didn't. but she picked Jed and basically he broke her trust and broke her heart so then to ask Heather out I think it's just a staceful but I feel like part of it was also because Jed was there and he was

watching it and I feel like I feel like part of it was to like make him feel bad because he did something really effed up and even when we saw the breakup it kind of insinuated that he was like flirting with girls even while they were together oh my god so I feel like you know like she wanted to like get back at him and so she said that on live TV because who would say that on live TV like to walk after yeah but everyone also saw that his reaction was kind of nah he was like he was cringing jeet is waiting for me he was cringing which could be that him and jiji were hanging out at that point for sure they started following each other before that aired before that aired yeah so they hung out so they probably hung out it's so easy today speaking of

Instagram like you just slither on in who said that Instagram is like the best dating app forget about all the other ones like Instagram is the dating app listen who found somebody else found somebody unlike from sliding in their DMs so many people slide into people's DMs and and that's what we're seeing also in this season of Bachelor in Paradise that everyone has had sex already yeah yeah and and everyone slid and slithered oh this is who Vanessa grimaldi's boyfriend slid slid and to her DMs, and that's how they met. Really? Yeah, that's what she said in interviews.

Like, the best thing that I've ever happened to me was that my boyfriend fled into my DMs. That's so funny. So it's like Instagram is the best dating app. Okay, so if you were single, who would you slide into? Oh, that's a tough name. I feel like I just slither on in. To who?

Everyone. Everyone? Yeah, take my chances. I mean, I guess, yeah, like, instead of, like, just one, why, like, anybody that'll give me a shot. I wonder how these celebrities like I get a lot of messages and like you know I go through them

like from women thank God because my husband is such a jellybelly but literally 90% of my followers are women so they're all like very loving and very supportive and friendly but imagine your Gigi Hadid how do you even find Tyler's message

oh you know what's funny though when I was on Chena's podcast and she said something about slithering and sliding I was like Tina like the way that slithering and sliding. I love that. I don't know. I was like, I didn't ask you.

So as Sheena, I was like, Sheena, how do you like see that in all your, and then her co-host was like the blue check mark? Like, so I guess that's how. Oh, they look for the blue check mark. Yeah. Oh, so they care about that. No, that's how you know it's like someone known.

Yeah, but yeah, yeah. And not like a rando. Right, right. It's easy to see. True. See it by that. Sheena. I always have, like, stories about her.

I know. It always comes up for me. I know. Because she's such a character, you know. I know she is. There's, like, endless amounts of stuff. Endless amount of, like, moments that I feel like I had while, like, just watching her act when I did her podcast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Anyway, we're going to take a quick break and be right back. I also want to do a deep dive into, I don't even know what's crazier. So, Miley and Liam Hemsworth. Wait, what's happening in Hollywood? Broke up. I'm not going to say divorce because I really don't know if this is like confirmed yet, but I don't think they were officially married by like the Bible. No, because he said, yeah, I guess Liam said separated, but I don't think that they had.

I don't think. It seemed like it was at their house also. I don't think it was official. I don't think they had like a priest or whatever you need to do like in Christianity. And we know for a fact it was confirmed that Caitlin and Brody weren't officially married, even though they did this like really extravagant Indonesian wedding a year before. But this is how crazy fucked up celebrity world is. On August 2nd, Caitlin and Brody, I mean, they didn't split in August 2nd.

It was announced. Announced. That they split. A day fucking later... She's seen with Miley. She's seen making out with Miley and a boat in Italy. Mm-hmm. Okay.

Hardcore making out too. Hardcore making out. A day later, Liam confirms it on his Instagram that they broke up. A few days later, Miley comes out with her new song, Slide Away, which has lyrics pertaining to the breakup. So I don't understand It's really But like just I think that you can make a song

Really quickly Like it doesn't mean that this song Was made months ago It could have been made three Of course it fucking does Are you kidding? No no no You think?

Yeah Mm-hmm She could have written the song And then recorded it And like yes Yeah I want my house in the hills Don't want the whiskey and pills

I don't give up easily But I don't think I'm down And then like it's slide away slide away move on we're not 17 I'm not who I used to be we're grown now I mean she's definitely not who she used to be well yeah but I think this is more like they've been together for 10 years you know and like maybe you know I think it's alluding to the fact that they were holding on to this relationship that was like a young love you know it was young love it wasn't like a mature do you you know what I mean? Like when you're with someone from that young, she was like probably

17 or something when she started dating him. And we, God knows, she went through so many ups and downs and outs. And I think that's what it means. The whiskey and pills, I don't know if it means if it's about her, if it's about him, it's hard for me to like see Liam as like someone who like does drugs. Like she seems like the druggie to me. No, I agree. And I feel like obviously we don't know so much about Liam because he's not as public as she is but like she's gone through so many public changes oh my God

you know like it's been like pretty extreme at times and Liam's always kind of like remained but don't you always ask yourself like like you know even a month ago when she put up those twerking videos and like tagged Britney Spears and was like Britney want to come over and it just looked like the girl

is alone at home in Malibu going fucking crazy yeah going fucking crazy and that's when I wondered I was like where the hell is Liam I've always wondered whenever she puts up crazy shit you're like where's Liam where's the guy to like balance her out or like because it makes me think like but they've been together for 10 years and it makes you think like he like he probably like me you don't think he had the same

belief says her like the same like he agreed because she said our relationship is so weird like nobody would get it But that's what we're hearing now, because I didn't like when she said that in an interview about, like, a month ago, she said, like, something about being bisexual that just because she, you know, is having steak doesn't mean she doesn't like bacon from time to time or something. Speaking of, or not bacon from time to time, doesn't miss bacon. Or sort of. She said steak and bacon. I didn't know that. She definitely said bacon.

I don't know about steak. But she did say, like, basically, just because I'm married to a guy doesn't mean I'm not. into girls and that, you know, we don't have that conventional type of marriage. I'm not like a wife, you know, I'm not a wife in the sense of the word. And it sort of, I remember, seemed like to me and I went on kind of like a ran on Instagram that it seemed like she was sort of belittling the relationship. And I remember I put up like a five story rant about it, that I don't, that if she, you know, no one is taking away her bisexuality, no one said because you marry a man. It means that you were straight your whole life.

Don't worry, Miley, you're still bisexual. But I think the way that she said it in the article, to me even, I'm not Liam to like take offense, felt like you're not speaking like highly of your marriage. You're not speaking of your husband. Like, you know, be proud. You're married to fucking hot, you know, successful, rich guy, whatever. And you just got married less than a year ago.

And you got married. Like, say that you're in love. Say that like everything's a, or don't, right? but I'm just saying I to me it felt like she was belittling her relationship making it sound like yeah we're married but it's not like that and like yeah I'm with a guy but I'm like still into girls

and it's just like it seemed belittling of the relationship and I didn't not like that and a rumor came up that he was really upset by that article and that that's part of the reason I'm sure there's so much more to it but the timelines

with celebrities is just crazy like you hear about the breakup A day later, they're with new people. So Miley and Caitlin are seemingly together. Brody is dating a model, Josie Konseko, and he's already seen out with her. Caitlin and Miley were seen today with her mom, Trish, like, shopping. You know, I'm just like, it's crazy. At least the only one that's not seen is Liam.

He probably went. He's in Australia. He went back to, in Australia. He went back to his family in Australia. and he's taken time. He's taken time. And I'm not saying it's not okay to like... Live your life.

Live your life and be seen, but like it's so public and it's so fast. And it almost doesn't seem real to me. It doesn't seem like humanly possible to have a 10-year relationship and two days later be making out with somebody and look happy as ever. And also making out publicly. Publicly. Because that also seems like if you know you, you are paparazzied and you know this shit make out in a

behind closed doors like be a little bit sensitive too like again we don't know the circumstances but it's just like I again am not jealous of celebrities sometimes you know it's like their lives look too insane for me to like ever would have like it just like seems too insane it's like how does it happen how does everything add up how do you move on after a day how do you all this And then Brody puts out a message saying he like supports Caitlin and like to stop like She commented with a heart. I know.

She commented with a heart. He put out. He wrote a post saying that like, you know, they're, they're friends and he loves and respects her and like to be positive towards her. His mom also wrote that she'll always love Caitlin. But what were people hating on her for? Like I, why did she get so much hate? I wonder.

I don't know. Because like he was seen also with like a model two days later. two days, but she was seen first. So maybe she got hate, like, how are you moving on so quick? I don't know. But again, we don't know, like, the behind the scenes, you know, sometimes things happen. It could be that they were processing this breakup forever. You know, like, Caitlin and Brody on the hills, like, it was no bueno.

Like, I saw it. I was like, Brody is not into being married. I think she wanted kids. He didn't want kids. Like, I don't know. But it is funny because I think they all just know each other from living in Malibu. They do, yeah. And but Brody seemed like, I wonder why he's already dating when he, like, it seemed like he was missing the single life so much.

That was like a huge yawn Amanda Hurd. I'm so tired. Amanda. I went shopping in Woodbury comments all day today. Yes, you did. Yes, you did. I know. I mean, I wasn't too jealous. Really?

Yeah. Why? It was fun. You should be. I don't know. That mall gives me like, it's too huge. Yeah. It's very huge.

It was also very, very hot today. It was very humid. 94% New York City I'm so over it so humid anyway speaking of the hills

Whitney Port who I really like but she's been sort of like anemic in this season I don't know why she's like a star of the show and in the intro

because she barely like has storylines but she got some publicity saying that her and Leo DeCaprio years ago, we're texting and that he invited her to spend the night

at his house and she said no and it's one of the biggest regrets of her life. It would be the biggest regret it. I know, I would regret it too. Are you kidding? He invites you over, you don't go? Like, that's the one person you do go and have a one night stand with. I'm sorry. I won't forget when I was in high school. Nicole, my best friend in high school. So we were

walking down the street. We were like 15 or something. A Bentley drives by and like honks in me and I don't think I even knew what a Bentley was and like honks at me. And she's like, Amanda, get in. Now I was like, what? She's like a motherfucking Benley honks at you. You get the fuck in or something. So that reminds me of that like Leonardo DiCaprio tells you to come over. Like you run over. You run over. You helicopter. No. You bungee jump over. Whatever you need to do. If he's like a 16 hour flight away,

you book that flight. Like, yeah. What are you doing? I know. But I feel like I can see that like in the moment that you're like, you know, but then in rushers, you're like, what? Like, now that you're a mom and you're married and you're all like, you know, that all of a sudden you have regrets about not doing things. No, in the moment, I'd be like, no, in the moment you would be like, no, I'd fucking run there. I had like jet ski there. I don't know what I'd do. Leo DiCaprio, like, I get to go there. I know. God. That's a funny story. I wonder how he, like, what he responded to her DM. I know. I should listen to it. No, it's not DMs, babe. It's years ago. So what did he respond to? How did, how does she even have his number? Maybe she saw him in LA at like a party or

something. I don't know. I haven't listened to her podcast. Anyway, we're going to take a quick break and be right back. or whenever the fuck VPR is going to choose to come back into our lives for season eight, I have listened to all of your requests and have started watching Southern Charm. I am really happy I did because as a certified bravaholic, I need to do a better job of watching more Bravo shows, that's for sure. and it definitely has a different vibe than other Bravo shows. And it definitely surprised me. Like, first episode, I was like, wait, plantations.

Like, where am I? Who am I? What is this? So for all of you who are listening, I am recapping this show now on my Instagram. I started from the very beginning, obviously highlighting everything and everything's going to be kept in there for you to watch. And obviously, I'm going to talk about it. I am, as of now, obsessed with Catherine.

I think she's amazing, amazingly crazy, amazingly beautiful, amazingly tall, amazingly amazingly, just like, she just, like, amazes me. I, you know, a lot of people are asking me if I can compare it to my VPR journey, and I cannot, A, nothing compares to my VPR journey, because I think that was one of the things where I was like, how haven't I watched this show yet, like, insane? Southern Charm is entertaining, it's interesting, it's different, like we're talking about going down, you know, to Charleston, South Carolina, and feeling like you're in a completely

different world, and there's some drama that's like, can be crazy, but Vanderpump Rules is my, you know, my baby. I don't think any show compares to Vanderpump Rules, because that cast is just so fucking crazy. I mean, I'm not really sure what I've done to you, but I'll take a Pino Grigio. I know, but I really wonder if it's going to continue because, like, we know, like, getting married. Like, I have a feeling Britney's pregnant. Why? Someone DM'd me that she's, like, not drinking and, like, people notice these things sometimes, like, that they'll see in a story, like, drinks and not a drink for her and, like, shit like that. And I could see that because

Jackson's 40 and he wants a baby. And so does she. She, I feel like she's, I mean, like, she loves to drink, but I think that she's also like, you know, small town girl wants a baby. Yeah, she wants a baby. Yeah, she's said that before. And Stasi also, I saw said that she wants a baby. I mean, it makes sense. That she even prefers, like, she's more excited about, like, baby than marriage. Yeah, I don't think that, like, Stasi and her boyfriend, like, love to go out, outside of, like, filming when they have to. You know what I mean? Like, I don't, I don't think they, like, rate, love to rage anymore. more. And they have to rage for VPR. Do you like to rage, Amanda? No, but Stasi was like, you know, doing Adderall and like drinking way more than I ever have. You can't compare me to these people. You know what? You're right. You're right. I do love that our girl, Katie, you know, a couple of days ago put up stories. She was like, I'm done with people asking me if I'm pregnant.

I'm not pregnant. I, it's called weight, you know, gain. It happens. It happens. I wear really baggy clothes not because I'm hiding a pregnant belly I'm hiding a bomb ass body so like good for her for being so confident I really hope she is that confident it's not just sort of like a you know show for the but I mean I couldn't imagine like when she put that up I was like if I was asked if I'm pregnant like I'm not strong enough for that like you guys don't ever ask me that if I'm not pregnant because I will literally I you know not eat or something it would make me feel so shitty no but I think that when you get so much of it at some point you're like I don't give a fuck I don't know if I'm so much of it it'd make me like

give a fuck more I'd be like if everyone thinks I'm you know pregnant but you have to learn how to not give a shit about other people because people can think what they want you know the thing is like like because if you give a shit about every single thing that somebody said when you have like million followers then you'd like it'd be a bad situation so you can't give a shit about what people say you really can't and that's the moral of the story no I know Don't give a shit about what people say. I know, but good for her, good for Katie. And I love that that's, you know, the message she's sending.

And that's how she's taking things. And I hope that really is how she feels because it sucks to be, you know, scrutinized for your. It's also weird. Like, in what world do people allow themselves, like, criticize other people's bodies and, like, you've gained a few pounds. You've lost a few pounds. Like, I mean, your body changes as you, you know. know get older and you change yeah so like it just sucks that people have to like make you feel

bad about yourself when like you know like she knows she's gained a little weight like nobody has to point it out you know and it sucks i know it's a shitty feeling and situation but it is nice that she put that up and that she was like taking pride in it you know yeah and we do hope she feels that way for sure we do anything else you'd like to add today i mean like i really need to talk about Bachelor in Paradise but we did like we didn't talk about Bachelor in Paradise we did what do we talk about the fact that yeah they all hooked up with each other before Bachelor in Paradise that's well I meant Bachelor in Paradise when I said that well we didn't talk about it Bachelor Nation say what oh my God no way oh oh oh oh oh my God okay okay what do you want to say about

it I just want to say that Hannah Dylan and Blake situation I just really feel for Dylan and he's clearly so in love with Hannah and she is a bitch. Okay, that's literally your summary of everything that happened on Bachelor in Paradise. That's literally what I want to say. And what I thought was really funny from last episode was Dean and Kalen going on a date. And she's like, I love to travel. And he's like, I finally found somebody who like loves to travel. I'm like, do you know what Dean does?

Dean like jumps. He sleeps with monkeys. He's like doesn't shower, jumps off cliffs out of planes, like, anything that like causes you major stress in life he's doing no it's so funny because she was like hey and he's like hey so sleep in a van don't shower unemployed don't have a job like not motivated don't have a future and she's like ah like smitten and I'm like only dean could pull that off you know what I mean yeah like I'd run the other way I know but when he says it it's like okay no worries and then with the traveling like like you said

said like they're not traveling the same style like dean is sleeping in a car yeah yeah and katelyn probably wants katelyn probably wants like five-star resorts of course who wouldn't i want five-star resorts but um but listen i made i'm trying to tell you guys listen to me no i can't apologize i'm sorry babes to me anything extreme like that is a red flag yeah if someone likes to travel and and, you know, goes every, you know, four months to Mexico, whatever. It is not normal to be so extreme and be hanging off cliffs and jumping out of planes every day. You obviously need some adrenaline rush or some, like, fulfillment you're not getting elsewhere.

And like, remember his dad? He's kind of like being his dad. He's going crazy, is what we would say. He's kind of going crazy. He's going, and I'm not trying to say that in, like, a bad way. He's just going a little cray-cray. he's had a rough life he's had a lot to deal with and you're right like he's like he's you know some people like go to alcohol drugs he's going towards like doing dangerous adrenaline why would he say

adrenaline producing things every single day like every day if you look at his story he's like on a crazy hike jumping doing like walking on a cliff that like looks like you're going to die if you like make the wrong step so he is obviously looking for something something is not fulfilling him so he's doing this stuff and sleeping in a van and sleeping in a van and him and kailen actually might be together as far as we know right now he's still sleeping in the van but how do you know he's still sleeping in a van as i saw i look at his stories and he's like the van is the crazy have you ever seen the van it's the craziest thing it's it's it's insane does it look good no it's gross oh my god so how would she date him because he's hot as hell

But he's not, like, sexy. He's hot, though. He's cute and he's smart and he's hot. Okay, Ariel. What? Yeah. Yeah, what? Anyway, I'm really into Dylan.

You are? Yeah, I really am. He's so cute. He's good-looking. He's, like, his smile is, like, the cutest thing I've ever seen. Okay, so Mary Fakill, Dylan, Blake, and Dean. Ooh. Mary Fuck Kill, Dylan, Blake, and Dean.

Okay. So, Mary, Dylan. kill Blake, fuck Dean. Isn't that a great answer? Yeah, it's also like too easy. I know, that was too easy. So Dylan is super cute. Dylan is in love with Hannah G.

Ever since he got there, he's like so smittenkin by her. She was like, I could tell from the beginning she was like going with it, but it didn't seem like she had the same like smitteness with him. She was waiting for Blake to get there. But what's weird? No, babe. Blake was there and didn't take her on his first date. He took Tasha.

True, true. And then we find out that he screwed Caitlin. Sorry, that's nasty of me. He had sex with Kaylin before. He had sex with Christina before. And he flew out to see Hannah G. before. All these things he did before. Then he gets to Vatcham in Paradise.

And the person he takes on the first date is motherfucking Tasha, not even one of the four girls he had previously hooked up with. And Tasia bought that he wants to have a relationship with her. and like whatever and then all this came to light i'm giving you guys a very quick rundown and hannah g meanwhile didn't show that it bothered her that he like took out tasha she didn't talk about it even though the first day he was giving her attention and they made it seem when they were connecting do you remember that at the beginning they arrived first yeah yeah yeah do you remember them connecting they were like hey yeah but they didn't act like they knew each other

so it was all planned it was all planned it was all well they discussed it before because they didn't just hang out he flew out to see her they hooked up okay so they discussed it before that they're going to pretend they might have he might have said like i'm going to take somebody else out on a date so it doesn't look fishy oh you think and i feel like it must have been discussed for because before because she didn't care that he was taking out tasha she like literally didn't show an ounce of caring and they might have discussed their whole plan before it might have been like a mastermind plan of like i'm going to have a different relationship and then we're going to get together.

Like, I don't know. This whole Bachelor world is weird. He clearly flew to Birmingham, Alabama, to see her before, which is also weird when you don't know somebody. I know. What world do you live in when you're like, I'm going to fly to see you. Yeah.

So it's all played out, and she didn't tell Dylan the whole time, and I feel bad for him. And then all of a sudden she did tell him. And it was just like, what is going on? Like, we talked about this world. Like, I think one of the, past Bachelor in Paradise contestants said, like, it used to be, like, crazy.

Like, they literally would come, and they'd never met those people before. And now they all know each other. And now they all know each other. They go to the same places. They slither and slide. They slide and slither. So, it's just like a crazy-ass thing. But Blake really,

I mean, probably you guys know this, that he, you know, got a really bad rap on the show because Kaylin was saying that they hooked up, and then he hooked up with Christina and they both kind of like outed him on the show and they said that um kailen was saying that he told her to keep it a secret and that he doesn't want anyone to know and that she um that it was a mistake and blah blah um and he basically was you know a nervous wreck that his character

would get you know um tarnished there which it kind of did and um and still hana g agreed to after all of this after Tasha, after Kaylin and Christina. She doesn't care. Hey, he came to Anna Jean. He's like, I actually like really want to make it work with you. And she's like, okay. She's such a dumb bitch. Sorry, I'm over it. I can't. You have such a sweet guy like Dylan, barber, whatever. And Blake is a fucking playa and I'm over him. And then he, so, okay, so after Kaylin, after Kaylin out in him on the show, he goes and puts all those text messages out. Now that I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I thought like, it's dirty. It's dirty.

When it first happened and I didn't watch the episodes yet and like the episodes that happened didn't happen yet, I kind of was like, okay, like he's being attacked on the show. But then now I think it's so dirty. Like he could have just made a statement that like things aren't as they are portrayed and it really sucks. But and but he put up those text messages, which was really shitty for Kailen, I'm sure. And like, like then you're, I mean, she already got slut shamed on the show. Yeah. That's even more.

slut-shaming because you're showing her basically say, like, just have sex with me. Right. And it makes you look kind of bad. And I just can't imagine, like, feel, that feeling of, like, such invasion when, like, millions of people are reading the text messages that you sent, millions, sex text messages, you know? So, like, I just can't imagine, like, that, like, you feel invaded, you know? I think it was, like, Nick Vial who put up, he was like, I could have solved so many things

by, like, putting up screen jobs of text messages, but I would, like, never do that. And Dean also posted, he tweeted about it, basically saying that it's like such a cowardly gross. And I agree. I think it really, um, I also, I think you're right. When it came out, I was like, first of all, I was hungry for the gossip and I really wanted to see it. I was like, oh my God. But then in retrospect, after I let things settle, I can 100% say that I think Blake is not what he seemed on Becca season. I think even he's showing that even more so by going after Hannah G. After he came in for Tasha,

I mean, everything is very confusing. Everything seems like, what are you doing, man? Like, what, what hoop were you trying to put the ball in?

So, yeah, Dean is looking like less of a player right now. I think that he, like, seriously learned from, like, the trauma that had happened last season.

Yeah. It was, like, a lot to handle. Christina and Dilo. Christina and Dilo, and he has a type because Dilo and Kailen have something in common. I feel like they can, they kind of look similar. It's the same type of style, you know?

But he was on Rachel's Bachelorette. Yeah. And he was in love with her. I know, Rachel's getting married, by the way, this month. Oh, yeah? Good for her. To Brian. Couples work out.

They work out. Yeah, that's nice. Yeah. To couples. To couples. Cheers. To you guys. Thank you guys for listening.

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