Not Skinny But Not Fat - NOT A BULLY w/ Victoria Larson

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

Call her a bully, or a mean girl, I call her an entertainer! Victoria Larson was the highlight of Matt James’ season of the bachelor for me! She made the snooze fest funny. She admits on the pod that her and Matt did not have physical chemistry, that she was putting on a little show for us, and thinks she got painted in a negative light sometimes undeservingly. Will she be on paradise? How does she handle the backlash? Tune in to find out! Support the show by supporting our sponsors! Woo: Head over to WOOMorePlay.com/discount/NOTSKINNY for 20% OFF your order of WOO. Eat Deux: Get 10% off and free shipping on 3 jars of cookie dough your choice with code NOTSKINNY at www.eatdeux.com Brightcellars: Get 50% off your first 6 bottle order at brightcellars.com/notskinny. Bright Cellars is helping you discover wines you love one glass at a time. Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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You guys, I am so excited because I have the queen herself and not of England, but of what, of the world, of the world of Bachelor Nation, Victoria Larson. Hi. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited. My followers know that I've been a stand, like, from the beginning. I feel like you fluctuated.

I saw one little thing that said like, or I heard it in a podcast. You were like, we all know she's the worst, but I was like, I thought you were a stand. Shut off. I did. It's okay. I feel like, yeah, I heard it. What on my podcast or on another podcast? Yeah.

No, I'm sure. Well, I appreciate you calling me out because I, I, you know, I think A, there's a lot of peer pressure. Like, we have to be honest. here right because i agree with that you did get a lot of like it's human nature to have i don't want to say a sheep mentality but like it's human nature to kind of go with the popular opinion and i got a lot of hate so it kind of became like i was the hated one but most so most okay so if you guys don't know victoria she was on mad james season of the bachelor for me showed up on a throne with a crown for me that season was and we'll put all the drama of the aftermath of the season

aside at least for now that season for me was snoozy like i'm sorry but it was a lot of it was very boring and you brought me life like your moments on there like were so funny thank you no i tried even when we were filming and you know this is something i I was kind of thinking about that a lot of people going on a show now have seen like going forward like how I was like annihilated or whatever. So I feel like a lot of the girls going on were careful about what they said or do. They wanted to present themselves well. And like, yeah, I just wanted to have fun. Like it's a show. I wasn't taking it seriously. So I'm glad like you saw the humor in it because I mean, that's what it was. Were you trying to be funny or is that like

who you are? I think I am funny. No, but in those moments, were you being like just your natural self or were you like, wait, this would be really funny if I, you know, said this thing or whatever. Yeah, I think absolutely there's part of that where I would like push myself to be more outgoing because you're on a show. So it's like on Jersey Shore, you see Snooky, but then in real life, she's Nicole. So I think Matt is an amazing person.

Like I definitely grew to appreciate him. But I didn't personally have like that romantic spark or that like physical chemistry. I didn't feel it. So I was just like, okay, let's bring the queen. Like let's just have fun with it. That's kind of how it was for me. So let's talk about the queen because we saw well like, first of all, I didn't take it that seriously. I mean, I love calling you the queen for fun.

but every person that comes on the show shows up with like a shtick. Like we had girls in, you know, penguin onesies and shit like that or shark costumes and whatever. So, I mean, we know that people come on the show. They do weird shit. They try to bring like their A game to the entrance. So I wasn't like, oh my God, what does she think? But then when it kept on going, I was like, wait. And then there were rumors or even Serena Kerrigan, she actually posted.

did that she gave you confidence courses or something before the bachelor? Yeah. So I did a confidence coaching session with SFK because I think I was just exploring different avenues of how can I be my best self, you know? So I was looking at she was all over Instagram. So yeah, I contacted her and she's amazing. she's great but yeah that was like one session but was it weird for you that she wait did she actually tell you though you're a queen and then you took it to like that's kind of what she made it sound is that would do that feel weird isn't that like client like patient for trust break i don't

know like her and i had chatted and she actually is like super amazing and she was like texting me because I kind of had a meltdown after the first night. That was like when Twitter like blew up and first started making fun of me. She was amazing and was there for me. So she kind of did that video too to like show people that like alliance with me. So like I really appreciated that. Even if it came off some type of way, I think that was her sense of humor and that's who she is on her page.

And like she's actually super amazing. Yeah. So but but it wasn't like. You're not, like, you're a normal girl who, like, knows what normal life is. And just to clear it up for anyone listening, you don't actually think. Okay, well, there's two sides to it. Like, I will say I'm a normal girl. I saw an opportunity and wanted to live it up.

But I've always worn tiaras on my birthday, like, every year since I was, like, 18. So maybe that's like a screw loose, but I'm pretty normal. so I thought so again if I talk shit it happens but most of it the time I was standing up for you and yeah you were I was like say what you're gonna say and it was hard to stand up for you Victoria because people were calling you a bully like and when it goes that dark like then it becomes kind of like wait were we not taking this lightly so I even then I wasn't calling you a bully and even then I was like who wait she made us laugh this whole scenario news fest of a fucking season and the girl that she called a hoe, I even went on and said,

I was like, what's her name? What was the girl you called a ho? Ryan. Ryan. I was like, if I was me and I'm not a ho, or even if I was a hoe, I'd be like, okay, like, that wouldn't offend me. You know what I mean? Yeah, I agree.

And actually what happened was because there were five new girls, I called one. of them a Puerto Rico and the other one is Chicago Ho. And then I said, Brian's a hoe because she's a dancer. So it was in a joking way. Like it wasn't like, it was just me saying silly thing because there was obviously no insult. And, you know, like you said too, like we had to look at it as like, okay, are we not taking this lightly? So I did, you know, look at it and going forwards. I'm going to be more careful with my words, but it wasn't malicious. It was just like Patty and like a show. Like it was she really offended? Do you think was she like dancers are considered hoes? Was that a like is that I'm more even interested in that than people asking if

your behavior is real because like I said like I can't imagine being so offended by that. I, I mean, I can see that perspective because it's funny. I love how you. you like got at the women's health all when I was kind of like, oh my God, I love that part. You know, are you being a little sensitive? But it,

it was because it was just a little like outrageous. Like Brittany, I felt like Brittany had more room to have had that type of reaction with Anna. Like that was a little serious. Our little thing was a little fleeting. And it was kind of like, is she looking for that? Like just be upfront.

who cares? Like, camera time or whatever, you know? It's hard because I feel like that's something you can't say. And I feel like if everyone could just say that thing, you know, like you would, like, if everyone could just be like, you're trying to be on camera or you're trying to be on camera. So then no one would, like it would just, but, but you can't break the fourth wall and you can't always, you know, put it out to the audience at this is a show at the end of the day. And it's not just this like journey to find love. I really like, although that.

is why I cried at the women's hell all is because I feel like I was having fun with this show and I really did feel that I could have had an opportunity to find love with Matt if I hadn't created this like antics for myself because yes it's a show but it's like these producers and these people putting on this show are giving up their own lives to go film for people to find love. Like, I, I really do think there's true love that can be found in the situation because it's like a perfectly set situation for you to fall in love. So, I don't know. It's both. You guys, sorry to interrupt, but I just wanted to tell you this episode of not skinny but not fat because, you know, supporting me means supporting my sponsors. And this episode is brought to you by

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Do I make fun of it a little bit? Yes. Do I love recapbing it? Yes. But I do love when people find love. And I love when these couples get together. if it's right from the show or if it's in paradise or if it's but i do you think that you fucked up the chance of you continuing on the franchise or do they still like you like in in

i think they love me oh no i don't think i fucked up with the franchise i just meant with my shot with matt but then that's where i have to get back into my own head and be like okay no you didn't have like the physical chemistry with him like remember that because with any like relationship you are kind of like oh you know you get more hopeful at the end and you're like what did I do that took me out of it or whatever but no I just meant with my chance with Matt but definitely I love the franchise still did you get any like sliders into your DMs from bad donation not really no shut up I don't believe you you're a liar I'm not a liar I'm not a liar But I'm like, I honestly can't remember their names.

But I think someone tagged me in like a salad thing and I like chit-chatted with some of them. And then on like clubhouse. But I, I, they're not like embedded in my head. Who is it? I don't know. Was anyone nice to you when this was going on from bachelor nation being like, hey, like, you're getting like shit right now? It's okay. Like, did you feel any support from like people in the franchise?

eyes. Actually, I felt the opposite. Like, that part was kind of hard because even like, Ashley, I was like shitting on me a bit. All of them were like, oh, this weirdo girl. And it's kind of like, all right, you guys have been through it. So, but now actually, like, I met Amanda. Oh, oh, Santon, Santon, Santon, Santon. Yes. So I met her out in Beverly Hills. She was really sweet. And then I actually just started watching Bachelor in Paradise. So I reached out. to lace. I think she's hilarious. And she seems so nice. So they've been sweet. Yeah. reached out to Lace. Is somebody getting prepared for? No, no. I was just like, oh, you're so funny on this show. Like, but would you do Bachelor in Paradise? Like Bachelor, whatever they're going to do for

that? Um, I would love to find love. So, you know, I'll keep that door open if it happened. So I want to go back to your amazing moments because I'm sure you've heard me also imitating you. And if you, does that feel weird if you hear someone imitating you? I feel like my whole life, people have made fun of my voice. So that's not really anything new. I think that I talk like people don't get this because even I'll get some comments about my voice. And either they'll say it's vocal fry. And I'm like, YouTube vocal fry because that's not what I have. I won't say my voice isn't annoying I'll just say it's not vocal for I and then

I've seen other comments about my voice too they'll be like she tries to talk like Corny Kardashian and I'm like yeah I try to talk in a fun way because if I talked not in a fun way it wouldn't be fun do you get what I mean yeah like you don't want to be monotone exactly so do I sometimes

like to be like and like make voices and talk like that yeah so I loved your I think the first thing that like you killed me killed me killed me was when and i call her sarah came for the right reasons trot yeah she was so there for the right reasons oh my gosh and then she was gonna leave and you went after her or something and the way you like were sarcastically like no way no like i don't know i was just in that moment with you i don't know what you were telling her like don't go i don't know

But then when Sarah came in. I think I was being sincere there. That's so, like, I genuinely think I was, like, trying to be nice. So, okay, so let's go to the moment when she came in the room. And this was a moment. I, I even posted it to my feed. Like, it was feedworthy. That's what I fell in love with you.

I'm like, she gets it. Like, I was for days. Like, your moment when Sarah came. And I, I hate. had i got so angry with sarah because i can't she seems so long ago it was like she came on the show and i was recapping the first episode and i was like here's a girl here for the right reasons a journalist a careerist you know like and then the next episode i'm like and then you find out all this shit that she has a boyfriend that she's like trying to be a model she legit has a tic talk of like

how i'm did you see that tick talk of her i saw that it was so awkward to watch did you see when she went live with like those two alum and made the cake pops because that was so cringy with no one no with that guy no no no no I didn't want to oh my god that was just weird to watch like I don't know I know people who know her in L.A. and stuff and I genuinely thought because I met her night one and she's like oh I'm from L.A so I thought maybe I'd be friends to her but just some things I've even heard through the grapevine it's like like she'll I don't she's the girl that will like go for girl's boyfriend like she's not like she's not a girl's girl like I'm actually a girl's girl I would never do that so like just certain things I've heard I'm

I don't know so did you hear of her before or like after the show oh after yeah so and Matt was like super into her which was interesting but anyway you guys all remember he was like holding her by the hip she's like I'm leaving um and it was hard to talk shit about that too because she does have you know her father is sick and everything but i think then did you see that like the woman because here's the thing too like of course absolutely like if your family's having something like i'm so sorry and like well wishes but i saw people posting that like she kind of used her dad and her dad wasn't even her dad was like embarrassed essentially was like the motive of it so i don't know that whole thing. Yeah, that whole thing, I saw, yeah, a family friend even of theirs or something, posted

a tweet that was like, you know, it's so sad to see Sarah using this. And aside from that, like, she said where her dad lived and that's, if she's trying to make it in L.A. and living in L.A., then that's not being a 24-hour caretaker. And I also, like, I swear, like, I am a nice person. But I don't lead with that. Like, I don't lead with looking. for sympathy and using that because I'm like there's so many things about myself I could share that would get sympathy and I just don't respect that to be honest like you know yeah I don't know it just didn't make any sense to me really no it rubbed a lot of people I'm I'm I know it sounds mean to say like I'm happy that it's not that way I'm not happy that a lot of people saw through

it but if he would manage to get everyone kind of be like oh and just like her because of that, that would have been annoying. So that's why I loved it. Even though you didn't know in that moment, like all this shit, like when she came in, Victoria.

And she was like, you guys know my heart. And you just had a thing back to her. But then now people are like, we don't know your heart. Like the whole internet has like, spewed it against me, use my own words against me.

I know. You're such a, which I, I want to talk about that, but, but anyway, you guys, if you want to see that moment, it's on my feed somewhere because I can, I'll go watch her right now. Well, I also, okay, so I love that on your feed. And then I also loved when you posted my mugshot and the caption was Victoria is the gift that keeps on giving because, no, I think it's hilarious.

And I have a hoodie, I'll gift to you, keep on giving the gifts. But no, it was so funny because when that was coming out, it's just like, oh, my God, yeah. Like, I look like a shit show right now. But, like, I didn't, I didn't even care about that so much, you know? Like, so you had a, like, I used to, like, steal shit all the time from stores. I didn't get caught, though. Exactly. No, I mean, I don't know.

I wasn't that embarrassed by it. That day was hard just getting, like, thousands messages. Like, you're a thief. It's like, okay, when I was 19. Who hasn't stolen some beer and makeup? Oh, my. I used to walk out of stores with things. Like, I'd be like, let me try on this hat at Urban Outfitters.

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give you 20% off. So anyway, when you you're, I can't get enough of it. Like I would have watched a season of just like lines that you said like that you were just like it was just amazing

I think every time I spoke about you on the show it was just like wait but she said such amazing things and and again the bully when it got so hardcore of like Victoria's a bully like where do you think what was the moment when it turned into

like fun and funny or like oh she was a little you know caddy or little to like bully what was that like yeah I don't know I don't know like that was so bizarre but like it started from night one because even when i told that girl oh go talk to matt people were like she's tough she's mean for that i'm like that wasn't mean

like so it it was a buildup of things that weren't mean that then it was like i was just categorized as such i think i don't know i i do understand not to call women names it was not I mean, since then, I have started calling all my friends ho and they love it. You can get like shadow band. I know someone who got shadow band on Instagram for calling her friend a ho. You're kidding. No. Oh, wow.

So it's serious. It's a serious thing. I think I try to like spell it differently. I'm like, ho with like a million ohs. So like I don't get in trouble. Oh my gosh. Okay. Yeah.

You like can't say shit anymore in this world. Maybe that's why I'm verified still. Who has it again? against you. Somebody. Somebody does. What the hell? I don't know.

That's annoying. They always do weird things with The Bachelor and who they decide to verify. Remember, are you like an avid bachelor watcher? Did you watch like all the seasons? Do you know all the people? Not really, no. Oh. So who, yeah, there were a lot of people because I always love saying that because sometimes it gives away who wins.

Like Rachel wasn't verified until after. Yeah. if you think about it. What was your relationship like with her on the show? I loved Rachel. Like, I had a good relationship with her. I actually had a really good relationship with everyone, I thought. But, um.

So it was just you and the new girls, basically. Basically, the narrative was the new girls came. And then you were like kind of a bitch to them. Like, why are these new bitches here or hose or whatever? Yeah. And like, Brittany, I was cool with. As soon as I heard the escort thing, I was like, okay, that actually really crossed a line.

So I made effort to Brittany and like befriended her. So like, you know, not everything could fit in like one hours. So when they showed the apology tour or whatever, I wasn't apologizing to Britney. Like she was telling me like, oh, you were so nice. And I'm like, yeah, I wouldn't want to make you feel that way. But it looked like I'm apologizing. But I wasn't mean to everyone. So what was Katie's beef with you?

When you and Katie had, like, did you and Katie have like kind of a falling out moment? Yeah, I think I didn't vibe with Katie, but I have since, you know, just because you go through this experience where you all experienced it together. So I think it allows you to bond afterwards. So yeah, I've talked to Katie. We're fine. That's why even at the women's hell all, like, I think both of us didn't go for each other, really. because we were like

we were fine with each other. Why didn't you get a hot seat? I don't know. Everyone got a hot seat almost. It was like it was such a weird women tell all because usually on the show when they do that after the final rose, the hot seat person is like a person

that like had a lot of drama or like a lot of shit. Here because it was kind of a snoozy season like there were so many people. They put like Brittany in the hot seat that like barely she, you know, had anything going on with Matt. And like, and then you weren't in the hot seat and you had like kind of a lot of drama surrounding you at the beginning.

So I was surprised you didn't have that moment. I don't know. Weird. Honestly, I don't know. But then again, they didn't even show Heather. And was Heather there? I think if you check the tapes, you could see it. You're like, I don't want to get.

Did you? You were there when she. got to to the season, right? No, I wasn't. So that whole thing, it was like, oh, Victoria's the bully. But then when the girls were mean to Heather, people were like, we understand. I'm like, what? It's going on.

When you guys, when, when Heather got there, that's what I don't get. Again, that's so crazy you say that. When Heather got there, people were legit like, what are you doing here, you bitch? Like to her face. Like the wildest shit I've ever seen in my life, I've been never in my life, like, seen people. I've seen people talk shit about behind people's backs. Like you had your funny, I mean, I think it's funny thing with Sarah where you're like, we don't know you. But I thought that was hilarious.

They were like, you bitch, like what's with it, bitch? Like, what are you doing here, bitch? Yeah. No one said anything. I mean, no, they got a lot of hate because I remember, I remember the girl. that were saying that, I think, posted on social media, like, that they're getting a lot of hate. Oh. From that.

Yeah. I don't know. But do you think there was some weird vibe, I just feel like this season with, like, girls trying to be ultra bitchy to maybe, like, I don't know. Like, why? It just, it felt like too much of a theme. Like, this girl's being mean to this girl. And like, I don't know if it was the editing where maybe Matt's relationships and have enough going on that they were showing so much cattyness. Like the Britney escort thing isn't that interesting either.

You know what I mean? It just like went on and on and on. And again, for me personally, and I'm not going to speak for her experience. If someone was like, I heard Amanda's an escort and I like was just me and I wasn't an escort, I feel like I would just be like, but I'm not an escort. That's how I've even gotten through the bullying. And people are like, oh, you're ugly. I'm like, I don't think I am. Like, because my eye was swollen and all of that.

But I'm like, just everything people say, I'm like, okay, I don't think that. So I am just that type of person where it doesn't typically affect me. Maybe it's because we're from New York. I don't know. Wait, you're from New York originally? Yeah. So I grew up in New York. So maybe that's why I don't know.

Oh, my God. Where'd you grew up in New York? Well, I grew up in Rockland. So not technically the city, but my family is all from Manhattan. Rockland, aren't there a lot of Jews there? Yeah. No, I was thinking like, I'm Jewish. I don't think you know that.

I don't know that. Yeah, my mom was Jewish. What do you mean was? Like, she passed away. Oh. It was fun. Yeah. But I grew up with like my dad remarried and they're still married.

she's amazing. But yeah, that's something I didn't necessarily share. I'm open to sharing, but I like wasn't expecting to share. But yeah, I mean, even growing up. Sorry, Victoria. That's, that's crazy. You're so sweet. It's totally fine. But yes, I grew up with two parents. Like I have a mom and a dad. But even with that, like you always feel kind of a loss. So my, I'm 28 now. So my early 20s were a lot of like reconnecting with her. And like I've truly felt her spirit and presence. So I feel like I kind of have the best of both worlds.

But yeah, I am Jewish because if your mother's Jewish, you're Jewish. Right. But do you did because you didn't grow up with her. Were you not like feeling the Jewiness? Yeah. Like we celebrated Hanukkah till I was maybe like five. And then we just celebrated Christmas. but yeah, I don't feel it so much.

I know. And like the bachelor doesn't have many, I feel like Jewish people come on. I feel like. I don't even know if there was ever like a Jewish lead. So we don't know. We don't know. But that's crazy that you have that kind of a story,

which your mom passed away at such a young age. Do you feel like if you stayed on for longer, were you planning on sharing it? I did share it with Matt and some of the girls. I just think it wasn't like a prominent. story because I also didn't lead with it. Like I said, like I have other elements to me. I don't think that is who I am. It's like a part of me that I share, you know, deeper in relationships. Yeah, like maybe if I had a one-on-one, they would have showed that or something. Who knows?

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And I think it was kind of obvious watching it that you guys like hugged like. Oh my God. Like awkward. Like on an uncle like like you're hugging your like uncle Morty. So that was pretty obvious. Do you do you think other girls? Because it's always interesting, right? Girls come on the show.

A lot will say I came on here when I heard it to you. And that's not always true. And I don't know if that it can even be true because you don't always know who it's going to be when you apply. Yeah. I think I said that too. though like it's a good line what'd you say oh i'm here for you i'm though i if i was about to write and people said that i'd be like really you saw you saw that it was me like i'd be like more uh suspicious you should go home yeah that's weird you saw and then came oh

it's a lot it's a lot knocker do you feel like could you tell did you have like a radar of like that bitch is here to get Instagram followers or you know or did you believe them what um sarah no I don't know I wasn't really like judging at the end of the day like we were all there and I think that like it was a group of you know admirable women like I think everyone deserves the opportunity so I didn't really look at it that way So there was no one extra thirsty that you felt stood out for their thirstiness? No. There were certain girls I thought I thought I was going to make it further than I did.

Like I thought like I had it in the bag. I was going to go further than some girls. I would. But how were you going to think you're going to go further if you weren't feeling him? Because I think that he still appreciated me. Like I think we still had like. interest and I think like if I hadn't been like a bully that his nice relationship it would have been like Katie where he like was like okay you know not feeling it but I think I would have gotten

to that level do you so when you saw the final three being Michelle Brie and Rachel were you like oh that makes sense that's kind of like what it was looking like it was going to be the whole time or were you surprised did you think someone else was going to make it to the final. No. Okay. So when I got home, I, the way it was going, I thought Brie was winning. So even when I was home and people told me, no, Rachel won. I did not believe anyone for like a month. I'm like, no, Bree won. Like, I think you got it wrong. Like, there's no way Rachel's winning. Like, I, I just thought his and Bree's connection was strong. Like, my brain couldn't wrap around it. And then, yeah, I knew Michelle would make it pretty far. And then in hindsight, I'm like,

okay, not surprised. Rachel won because they did have a strong connection. But I really thought Brie was going to win. Well, yeah, Bree is like, I'm a Brie stand too. I'm like, she's gorgeous. People say that she looks like Corny Kardashian and that's probably why I'm like into her. I agree. Like her style really was always the best. Like I was close with Brie in the house. And then, like I've heard on podcast her be like, oh, Victoria's behavior is unwarranted and this and this. And so I'm kind of like upset by that. You're upset because you felt like you were friends and she didn't like stick up for you.

Yeah. Sorry. I'm like, this is not a therapy session, but. I'm like, so how do you feel about that though? That it feels. No, I mean, I love Bree. And I would hope that she knows that I was doing the best I could do. You know, like her and I did talk after the show.

And we just haven't spoken recently, but maybe I'll try to reach out to her again. Yeah, she looks like a good person, I feel like. And like you said, there is a lot of pressure. Like, not everyone's as cool as me to be like, I don't care. And I think Victoria is really awesome. A lot of people like have to be like, no, her behavior, even if she's like, doesn't think it's a big deal. I would be the type of person that and I am in my real life.

If my friends do something, I'm. like, oh, that's not who she really is. You know, like, she was having a moment. Or, like, I, like, had my friends back. So I expect the same from my friends. So that's the only thing. But, yes, Bree's style is amazing. She is an amazing person.

So. Is there anyone that did prove themselves to be good friends to you after the show that, like, stuck up for you on podcasts or, like, supported you? I mean, yeah, like, all the girls are amazing. like Rachel even Chelsea's super dope hyper Serena sereners mj like I love the girls even like Catalina Britney I love oh my god there's so many names that like I don't know I swear there were so many girls this season I know see that's why I had to stand out like what would you do it's so true though there were so many freaking girls like when they brought the second round I

was like why like let matt also like feel it out let him get to know the people like it was like a lot it was a lot yeah wait so you didn't get to french him then right no by the grace of god i'm just i actually like because i am you know if there's paradise and if i'm invited i don't i see you she's there you guys i feel it i feel it but i don't know how would like french kiss on camera like that for me was a little like oh but maybe it's because I didn't have that vibe with him so like hopefully if there's someone I would meet that I don't know do they tell you anything about kissing because I remember hearing that you're not supposed to do tongue or am I making that up I never heard that but I don't know you don't see a lot of

tongue in the show I love looking at kisses and that's how I can kind of tell if there's chemistry so I always, like, look at the lips and whatever. And I remember, I mean, you're not a watcher. Apparently. Do you don't feel a little bad? Like, I know you got bullied online and people talk shit. But to talk shit about how you kiss, like, I feel like doesn't feel so good for a single dude. I feel like he, like, took it like a champ.

Like, even how he posted that, like, Twitter thing. Like, I think that's something that's admirable about Matt is like. is grace with handling everything. So, you know, maybe it stung a little, but like brush it off. I don't know. Yeah. So do you, who would you hope if you win and if you got invited to Bachelor in Paradise? Is there anyone that you're like, hmm, I would be D?

I don't know. I don't know. Really? I have to like watch Tasha's season. But we also have to like talk about the fact that Victoria's 28. Like, she's not a spring chick. No, I'm kidding. You're so young.

I'm just saying you're not 20. You're not Kitt, right? You're not 21. Like, even though Kitt had a timeline. Kit had a timeline. Yes. She was serious about it. She was serious.

But she, I remember I was talking to some to a comedian that was on my podcast about it. And he thought it was so funny that when Kit gave her timeline that Matt was like, Yikes. Yikes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did it feel to you at all, like Matt maybe himself wasn't ready for like actually getting married

and actually having kids and everything like that? I genuinely don't feel like it's my place to say if someone's ready or not. But I think that he seems to be like headed in a really good direction. Like I love where the progress he is at. And I think like if he chooses it, yeah, he could do it. You know? When someone's 28 years old, like just by the, the, the age and they say, you know, I'm ready to get married. It's more believable to me than when

a 20, not that you can't be ready for it when you're 23. I'm just saying there is more believability with age comes readiness to get married. I disagree. So like when I was 20, I literally, I think 20, I was so in love with my boyfriend, like wanted to get married and have kids. And now that I'm older and I've been through relationship stuff, I'm kind of more like, no, you have to prove yourself to me. My life is awesome. Like, why would I want you in it? So I think it, I don't know, though. Maybe if I meet the right person, yeah, I'd be more ready, but I don't know. It is true because I know with my single friends that are like my age, which is like 30s is like the older you get, the more like rational you get and the more like, wait, what does he do? How much money does he make?

Is it going to be a good dad? You think about all these things that when you're 20, you're like, whatever, I'm in love. So basketball player. I'm here for it. He's wearing a backwards hat. I'm down. Yes, I'll die for him. I'll die for him in a backwards hat.

But no, so I think that I personally haven't felt like my internal clock ticking. So I'm definitely still looking for Mr. Wright. But are you, would you be ready for an engagement if you found. someone would you be ready to like get married of kids um i'd be ready to get married not immediately kids like i want kids i can't wait to be a mom especially now you know my backstory i think it's going to be like so healing and just like a really beautiful part of life but i'm having like a really fun time being single so i i would like to find a partner to enjoy my life and my friend group with me. But I think I have a few more years because yeah, you're like 32 or what. Yeah,

and you have a baby. So I think I have a little bit more time. You're like, okay. Okay. That's how I always felt when I would see like people a little bit older than me. And I'd be like, okay, what's the age? Okay. Now, I feel literally calculated Courtney Kardashian to every age she had a baby at to know if I'm like how my speed is going. Because that's how lame I am, ladies and gentlemen. And she's a good example. She's a hot mom who's gold. She's gold. So what did you think when they announced a bachelorette that there were two bachelorette that

it's Michelle and Katie? Were you shocked? Were you like, where are you like, where is my invitation to be a bachelorette? Yeah, it was kind of like, what, how decided this? No, of course. I mean, I'm happy for them. I think they'll have great seasons. I'm curious to see Katie's season, you know, like.

the fact that she came in with the dildo and ended up bachelorette is pretty impressive yeah so that there's that and then michelle was like adorable on camera so wait what did you say to katie now i'm getting a flashback you did you did dildo shame her you said something about the dildo you were like yeah and you came in with like a dildo right i i i love dildos like sex positive over here but I thought that was a surprising way to come in because I also hadn't seen it like when I saw it and the way she did it was playful and funny

but I didn't know that I was just like wait what? It is really funny to me but I mean the dildo stuff aside I think Bastro Nation fans really look for someone to hate which you may have gotten that a little bit and someone to love right

so I think like so me and my friends that do recaps of The Bachelor a lot of the times. We always talk about Tyler C, which you know Matt's roommate. We always talk about how he got so much love from the show. And we talk about it. I love that you hated him because I just love the unpopular. Oh, yours.

You know everything, Victoria. I did some homework before I came on. You did. But no, I love that just because it's like, like, who is he that's so special. So that's what my comedian friend Jared Fried said. He was like, Tyler C got the edit of God. What happened to him is that he went on the show. He got dumped by Hannah Brown and she wouldn't have sex with him.

And then he, so he got to leave being the one that was dumped, the hot guy that was dumped and the one that like, you know, got turned, turned away from like the sex. So he says, Durfrey says like, everyone's like, oh my God. Hannah B said she wouldn't have sex with you and you just were like, okay. cool. Like, and then he got the best edit ever. People thought he was God. Gigi had dated him, whatever. So what I'm saying is people, we love Gigi. People look for someone to love. So I feel like with Katie, all of a sudden I'm like, wait, why are we thinking she's like God's gift to earth? And then I'm like, oh, because she like stood up for, for Sarah or something happened that people were like,

oh my god katie right yeah i think um like she initially had that moment with sarah where they bonded over their dads and stuff and you know like i think that is part of the show too is like when you are vulnerable you're open to more love and i personally just didn't choose to go that route i don't know i was just having more fun with it but yeah like you said like they pick someone to hate someone to love. So it's just, it's, it doesn't mean anything. And I think like what helped me too is, um, like I was getting a lot of love. Like there were a lot of fans that are like, queen, this and this. My dad actually was like, stop getting so high because that's when you're like crashing low. So I just kind of stay plateau and I'm like grateful when people are like queen,

this and this. But I'm still like, no, I'm me. I'm Victoria. Like there's, no excitement either way. So I think like stability has really like it made me not feel the hate either because I'm not it's like locked. Really? You managed to because I first of all I when I post about you like I said 99% it was positive. Yeah. I don't I didn't get any backlash of people being like but she's a bully. So I mean yeah we can put her in perspective. I don't think people were like you know protesting against you but i do know that there was some hey people did talk about your eye so what was going let's just address the things what was going on with the eye i had a stye and it was swollen and then my whole face was swollen and like you're not supposed

to wear makeup so they go away so like i look like shit i can't believe that happened to you you poor baby oh awful you got a stye on the bachelor can you believe I cannot believe. Can you believe how I felt like when it was happening? I like felt it and I was like. But why didn't you not give a shit and you were like, whatever I'm going to put on makeup anyway? I didn't want it to like get worse.

Like I was trying to let it like get better. I mean now in retrospect I probably should put on like some face makeup or something. Wait, do you know that I'm so bad? Like my mom used to say to me when I was younger like don't wear this color bra. I know that everyone. what's going off on you, but like, I didn't really pay attention to the bra stuff. Yeah. And I do want to address that just because that's another thing where it's like I'm 34

double Bs. Yeah, I can see the boobies today. They are looking good. But like, I'm self-conscious. Like, I've had asshole guys be like, oh, your boobs aren't perky enough or this or this. So if everyone's all like, let's support women, but you're like, oh, her bra's showing. That's not support. Like, if my bra was showing because I'm self-conscious about my boobs I don't like you have big boots you need support so you couldn't be wearing those dresses with like out of bra or something yeah and I mean now I probably am going to get I've always wanted like a lift or something and I was going to wait till after kids but I think I'm going to end up getting something now because it's like that was brutal where it's like I can't wear certain things without a bra like I do

have big boobs and you know all these people were talking shit about size inclusivity and blah blah blah but then you're like bashing someone who has a bigger body so like how is that what were you hearing body stuff because that would shake me like if first of all you're not like you know like uh it's the same way like when kate wins let the titanic came out or whatever her movies and they were like oh my god like not models so you're not the example of like oh they brought on the size you know 14 right were you feeling body shamed not well filming no but like no after the wedding photo shoot thing where my bra was showing that was the same night i had the conversation with matt being like you know i'm self-conscious getting dressed because i am aware that my boobs are going to be out in this or this like i have

to think a different way than some of these girls who aren't as like curbier as me um so as i shared all that yeah like people were body shaming me for the bra showing or saying my body doesn't look so good and all of this like that was crazy but again it's like i love my body i'm we're all in like a learning growing constantly experience so you know like i go through phases would you be allowed to tweet like because I'm thinking like let's say this whole bra shit was going on like I said I personally didn't care like I didn't even notice that but I did see it going around if you tweeted would you be technically allowed to tweet let's say like fuck all you bitches calling out my bra I'm a 34 double fucking D those were the bras that I had

to hold up my boobs in these dresses like shut the fuck up yeah I feel like people would shut the fuck up. Like, I feel like they would get it. Would you, are you not allowed to talk about things when the show? Like, would you, could you do that? I feel like I chose not to because I think like opportunities like this are more like not educational. But like people listen more to this. Like if I'm going to go back forth on my keypad all day, why would the fuck would I use my own energy that way? Like I really don't care to like get in a Twitter war or to explain myself on Twitter. Like I personally, I don't care. Like I don't use Twitter. So. But yeah, I could have done like Instagram story or something, but I feel like this is a better opportunity to address things.

So I was more so like saving my voice for a more valuable avenue. Yeah, you didn't. You really didn't because I would, you know, look at your Instagram and you, oh, you did do. Wait, let's just talk about that one moment. There is that one thing. There's that fucking day that Matt James, Tyler. And I don't know who that dude was. They were playing golf and it sounded like the dude, the on-name dude was like body shape.

I think he was like, how was Victoria's body or something? Yeah, something like that. It was weird. It was a weird thing. And then you did clap back, right? Yeah. I mean, definitely. I love a good meme that, like a picture is worth.

thousand words so a meme must be worth like 2000 what did you what did you post remind us i posted like a guy unattractive guy sitting on a couch evaluating a bunch of models and it was like her nose it's too big oh my god yes first of all i i know that meme and i love it and that's but i'm the guy i'm usually the guy brittney sent me that meme and i was like you know what i'm gonna throw this up on my wall right now because yeah like my wall you're talking facebook language victoria i don't know on my feet on my oh you put it on your feed not just your story yeah i think i archived it now because i ran into one of the guys and like he apologized and apparently someone was offended i posted that and i was like oh i wasn't meaning to be offensive

I was just saying, like, who are you? Oh, now you're like shaming the guy that shamed. Yeah. And then he was like, I only shamed her because her behavior was bullying. And I'm like, oh, God, I'm not even giving this another thought. You're so boring. So, first of all, it is inspiring that you, that's one session with Serena Kerrigan. And look at you.

Confidence queen. No, because a lot of people, I mean, you are, you do seem to be. be as unbothered as one could be from, you know, what a toxic fandom can probably be like. Yeah. I mean, I prayed a lot and like it was hard and like I had moments with myself and I would just ask, you know, God and my higher power. Like, what is the lesson here? Like, why is this happening? And I did feel like it was a growing experience. Like I'm never going to talk shit about people with, I don't know. On camera. On camera. ever. I'm going to look like a really good person on camera next time. Lesson learned. Victoria, I want to thank you because it's not worth the wrath that you got, but I swear to God, there wasn't one enjoyable moment for me this season that didn't have you in it.

Oh, thank you. Yeah. That's so sweet to say. And it's true. If you guys, all of you listening, don't admit it to yourselves like you know there wasn't a lot of humor there weren't a lot they showed like bloopers and the bloopers weren't funny i mean there wasn't a lot of like and so i'm not saying you the bachelor needs to be funny but we also didn't have a lot because you were saying you didn't have physical chemistry with matt um even though the other girls the finalists might have had it we didn't the audience feel that as much for some reason it didn't it didn't come across Do you know what I'm saying?

Yeah. I think maybe because it was his first time. I don't know. Because like I said, like being on camera kissing was, I don't know. Just filming is amazing. Like you forget the cameras are there. But only like kissing, I would be like, oh God. Or like.

You would have to be wasted. Or attracted to the person. Or attracted to the person. So I'm keeping my fingers crossed. that you are like my hunch is telling me going to be on you know bachelor in paradise thank you so much for coming on victoria i adore you and everyone go follow her i feel like we need to get your instagram game game up yeah get her instagram game up she's calling her stories her wall she's still on facebook for some reason so victoria larson everybody go check her out thank you victoria for

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