Not Skinny But Not Fat - Olympic Medalist Chloe Kim Says Silver Is Her Color
Episode Date: March 13, 2026Three-time Olympic medalist and snowboarding legend Chloe Kim joins me to talk about the Winter Olympics and why silver might actually be her color. We get into the pressure of competing on t...he world stage, dealing with injuries, and what’s going through her head in the halfpipe. We also talk about fame, her time at Princeton, her relationship with NFL star Myles Garrett, and what life looks like when the Olympics are over.This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.Stop shopping and get styled today at stitchfix.com/NOTSKINNYGo to perelelhealth.com and use code NOTSKINNY for 20% off your first order.Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.
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It's nice when I actually do get to do more than,
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been sick, taken antibiotics? And on the heels of that, gotten a cold from like weather changes or
whatever the fuck? Because, hey, that's me. Like, hello immune system. Wake the fuck up. And I've said
it before. It's like people in New York or I'm sure anywhere that it's cold. Like it's like,
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Now it's hot. Oh my God. We're having a 60 degree day. Let's get naked and see.
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Fuck global warming.
Anyway, again, so excited to bring you another episode this week.
Today's episode a little different than usual.
I usually have, you know, actors and reality stars and stuff like that.
But I was so interested in sitting down with Chloe Kim.
She is a two-time Olympic gold medalist and one of the most.
known female snowboarders of all time.
She is just amazing.
She started so freaking young.
She is so cool.
I was so taken with this year's Winter Olympics.
Like I got so into it like everybody else.
So I was just so fascinated to talk to Chloe and hear more about like just everything since I know nothing about sports, Olympics sports, snowboarding.
I was like, I just went to Utah.
I said it seven times in the episode, drink every time I say it.
I'm just kidding. I think I said it once. But like that's my only experience with snow in that way.
So I was just interested in like picking her brain and really like understanding what it means to be an Olympic athlete.
And like I wouldn't have thought that an Olympic athlete would be as chill and as like DGAF. Don't give a fuck.
No fuck's given. Fucking cool Cali girl. So here it is. Enjoy my combo with Chloe Kim.
Wait, Chloe Kim. You're going to the.
I better be.
That's the T.
You guys, Chloe Kim is here in the fucking house right off the Winter Olympics.
You're.
You're.
You're.
And I mean, you fucking killed it.
You came off with another Olympic medal.
How are you feeling?
I mean, good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Just good.
I mean, yeah, I did what I needed to do.
You got home.
Yeah.
Feel good.
Feel sexy.
You know, I got my color analysis in Korea last summer, and they actually said that, like, white gold.
They say silver, but I'm like white golds.
Yeah.
White golds, like white metals look good on me.
So I think they're right.
Oh, my God.
I love that.
Yeah.
Did you could ask that question?
I saw she's your friend, right, Eileen Gou, who she's a freestyle skier.
Yeah.
Her answer to the question, did you see what she was asked at the press conference?
She was asked by this fucking guy two silvers gained or two gold laws.
He was like, how do you look at it?
And she fucked him back.
I mean, that's such a stupid question.
Like, this is what journalism is now.
Are you serious?
Like, I feel like everyone wants to be so negative.
Meanwhile, you're sitting on your ass hating.
You know what I mean?
It's like being at the Olympics alone is so competitive, like getting there,
is so difficult and competitive.
I had to win like four events straight to make the team,
which I did this season before.
And there's so much pressure.
It's stressful.
You know, all everyone's talking about is the Olympics.
Like, it gets in your head.
And when you walk away with any medal, that's such a big accomplishment.
So for that to get diminished is so stupid.
Like, who cares?
Yeah.
Like, I have a medal.
Three people get a,
metal. I was one of the three. And like if you got asked that, you could have said, and I did my
color analysis. Exactly. I'm a girl at the end of the day, you know. I love beauty. Oh my God.
I wish you could have said that like and silver looks really good on me. Yeah. Well, I did say it in my post.
Oh, you said it in the post. Yeah. Yeah. That's super good. I love that mentality because I think like as a non-athlete of any
kind. Like, I think the way we look at sports is like, okay, everyone must be like,
like, winning is the only thing that fucking matters and like, you know, and to see, like,
yes, we're competitive. But at the end of the day, like, obviously we're happy to be here.
Obviously, we're happy to even win any, any medal. It's just like wild to me that anybody
would ask that or think that it's like, I mean, I'm sure you know athletes that are,
like, that would fucking be like, oh, we're going to get a gold, right? I mean, totally. And like,
that's valid too, but I think like everyone's so obsessed with winning. And when I say everyone,
I mean everyone that's not in the sports obsessed with the idea of winning. And it's so stupid to me
because I don't know. I just feel like there's so much more like you don't know my story.
Like you don't know where I was at when I was going into this. You don't know what I had to go
through. Like I went through some shit. You know, like I got injured. I had this whole plan to train for a month
because that's how much prep everyone needs to go to the freaking Olympics.
So you need a month of prep before?
At least.
At least.
Like at least a month of where I can like lock in and really dial in my run and like work
on the tricks that, the new tricks that I learned.
Like I need time to prep.
Yeah.
And I got hurt.
And so I literally had no time on snow.
So you know how crazy it would be for me to not practice at all when everyone else is
spending the entire winter on snow, months on snow?
Yeah.
And I'm going.
going in with my like four days of practice thinking I'm going to win the damn thing. Like that's so
delusional. The fact that I did, but you, but you, but you got a fucking medal. Yes. And you had,
you said four days. I had like four days of training outside of the competition. And then we had
two days of practice at the Olympics. And then we had our events. We had qualifiers and finals. So you had
four days of like planning planning at this out. Yes. And also like the way I got hurt was so stupid that
it actually got in my head.
How did it happen?
So I was telling my therapist this, but I was like, it would have been so much easier
if I fell and got hurt doing a trick because it's like part of it, you know, whatever.
Okay, I'm going to fall on this.
Obviously, I'm like flipping twice and I'm going to eat shit.
Cool.
But like I fell going into the wall to the trick.
So I got so freaked out because I'm like, oh my gosh, do I not know a snowboard?
Like, can I not get there?
Can you explain it to people that don't?
Okay.
Like slowly.
So in half-pipe snowboarding, there's, you know, two walls. And you do tricks on both sides. And, you know, I get five tricks in one run. Some people get six. But like if you go higher, you're doing more difficult tricks. You kind of run out of room to do more. So I get five. So we have five meaning like five you're doing the thing. Like five jumps. Okay. Yeah. Like you get five jumps. And so for me, what I'm saying is like it would.
would be so much easier for me if I fell on one of my jumps.
Right.
If you were doing it and like,
and that's like just part of the risk.
No worries.
But I, the way I fell was on my way to the trick.
So I like, I landed one jump and then I am going to the next because there's a little
bit of travel in between and I fell going into the next one super weird.
Dislocated my shoulder.
Did they have to pop it back?
Yeah.
Okay.
But at least it wasn't like a surgery.
or anything like that. Well, I do need surgery. Oh, you do? Yeah. Like, it's not a bad injury for everyday life,
but if I want to do anything athletic, I need surgery. Because it could pop back because it becomes a thing.
Yeah, like, I can't golf right now. I probably can play tennis. Do you do those things usually?
Of course. I love those things. You golf and play tennis?
Mm-hmm. Again, I'm Asian. Like, you should know that. We love it. No, because it's like you have your sport.
So what else do you do golf? I mean, snow melts, baby. No melts.
That is true.
Yeah.
I mean, if I wanted to badly, I could like keep chasing it, but too old for that now.
Did you always snowboard or did you have a bout with skiing?
No.
No.
No.
Oh, no.
She doesn't like skiing.
It's just not for me.
And what, like, can you explain to me the difference?
There's just like too much freedom.
I don't like that my legs can go their own independent ways.
I don't like the pole vibe.
Okay.
I get it.
It's just like I don't like to hold things.
Yeah.
Unless it's my.
phone. Unless it's her
five-pound phone.
Right. Yeah. Also, you
can't fucking snowboard with your phone, by the way.
No. You don't. I can't. Because you listen to music
you were saying. So how do you listen to music? Well, I take
the case off. Oh, you take the case off. I'll take this
case off and I have a skinny case.
Oh, okay. There's a system.
And put it in your pocket? Yeah. And you
snowboard with it. So what headphones?
Like, AirPods?
Like, people use AirPods. I use
the Bose Soundsworth
headphones. Mm-hmm. But they
discontinued them.
Do they like wrap around or something?
No, they just go in, but they're Bluetooth still.
They just wrap around your neck.
Like not wrap around, but they just kind of sit on your neck.
And the reason I like them is because I can like skip through a song.
Like with the AirPods, you can like, I can't believe you're doing this mid, what, like mid-Olympics?
Like before I drop in, that's why I'm always like doing this.
You're like switching a song.
Yeah, because I want to drop in at a certain part.
Stop.
Yeah.
timing that like you're thinking of a gazillion things plus trying to get the soundtrack to your fall. Well, I'm only thinking about that.
Just about the music. If I, the more I think the worse it gets. So I might as well just start on a clean slate. Like you're thinking about the music. Yeah. I don't want to think about my run. That sounds awful. So what is your song? What was I? I was listening to my wrist, young thug. Oh, young thug. And I also was listening to like,
Baby Keem.
So does that get, like, what gets you the most in the mood?
Like, rap?
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
Need.
Like, it makes you feel like I could do this.
And I also love my girls.
Like, I love Meg the Stallion.
Yes.
Doja.
Yeah.
Cardi B.
Love.
I actually listened to Cardi B at my first Olympics.
It was like the G.E.Z.
Cardi B song.
Did you ever do like a Britney?
No.
That wouldn't get you in the mood.
No.
But when I'm not snowboarding, I listen to a lot of like Lana Del Rey,
Britney.
Yeah, but Lana is in a fucking.
She's not, you're not getting tricks.
Well, sometimes when I'm on the mountain, I'm like, I'm too amped.
Maybe I need to chill.
And then like, I'll listen to Lana and then I'm like, okay, that's not for me right now.
And I have to learn this lesson multiple times throughout the season because I think I'm like, maybe I'm old enough now to appreciate this while I snowboard.
Because there are people that listen to like ballads while they're snowboarding or like country, you know.
Yeah.
Something more chill.
So I'm like, okay, maybe I'm there now.
No.
She's not there yet.
No. Do you have stuff? Because I know with athletes, like, they'll, like, see something worked and then they'll do that, like, a lucky underwear or, like, a song that you killed at that time. Do you have those kinds of things?
Like, kind of. But I'm also just, I don't like being too inconvenience. So it's like, I like the idea of it. And if it works out, it works.
Yeah. Underwear is crazy. Like, I like, I want clean underwear, a thousand percent. Yeah.
I'm not going to rush wash them.
Like you don't want to be dependent on something where like, oh shit, I don't have that one thing.
Like you want to just know that you could do it.
But I do it with my jewelry.
Like I have my lucky hoops.
I don't have them on right now because I don't need luck today.
But I have my like lucky white gold hoops.
She loves white gold guys.
So what about these medals?
I heard your mom like hides them.
Yeah.
Where?
She's like a squirrel with my Olympic medals.
What did she do with them?
Why does she want them?
What's the story?
I think she's just scared.
that I'm going to lose them.
Oh, are you a person that loses things?
No. Okay.
Like, I'm not the clean, like, I think I'm, like, medium clean.
I let it get messy.
And then at a certain point, I'm like, okay, I have to clean up.
You know, so I'm, like, responsibly messy.
But I also know where everything is.
Like, where would you put your metals if she didn't take them?
I don't know.
The hard.
It's in, like, a corner.
And that's, like, my metal corner now.
Like, that's kind of my system.
Yeah, like your clothes chair.
Yeah.
Your metal corner.
Say, where does your mom put them?
Does she have a shrine for you?
I think she also puts them in like a shoe box in her closet.
So we're the same.
Wait, is it engraved?
Do they engrave it for you?
Like, how does it work?
No.
No.
They're just kind of like here.
They're here.
I didn't even get a box from my middle this time.
You just like got it like that.
Yeah, I just have it.
Would you freak out if like your mom lost one?
No.
You wouldn't?
No.
I'm not really attached to stuff.
I purge probably like three times a month.
Just get really.
rid of a bunch of stuff.
Yeah, that's good.
Like, I don't know.
I don't really hang on to the past like that.
How long have, it sounds like you live alone, obviously.
How long have you lived?
You're only 25, right?
I know.
So how long have you been in your own space?
Oh my gosh.
I moved out when I was 18.
Not because, like, love my parents to death.
Just like, like to my own space.
Yeah.
And they're so busy all the time and it stressed me out.
Like garage doors opening closing, opening closing.
Like, you wanted quiet.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I can't.
So what you got your own.
place.
Yeah.
So I, also my parents don't work.
Like I was able to retire both of them by the time I was 15.
So like it's been chilling.
Wait, again?
Yeah, 15.
When you were 15, you were able to retire both of them.
Yeah.
That's amazing.
Yeah.
But your dad left his job when you were how old?
Like seven.
So he took a risk.
Yeah.
But it was going to pay off.
Yeah.
Best believe it was going to pay off.
You think you knew that?
No.
No.
It was really dumb.
In hindsight,
like, it was probably the dumbest thing you could do.
But he did it and it worked out.
Thank God.
Yeah.
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So your dad took a huge risk.
Was that something
you were like,
it came from you?
Well, I was a baby.
Yeah.
Like, I don't know what that means.
You just knew you liked snowboarding.
Yeah, like, I feel like my dad was
telling me that he would
support me.
I was like, cool. Like, I'm six. I don't know. So how do you think what gave him that like,
is he that type of person? Is he like a risk taker? Is he what do you think made him be like,
no, this is worth like me stopping everything, taking this huge risk? I think this is where I could
become really spiritual and be like, well, it was, you know, meant to be. Yeah. It was destined.
I don't know. I mean, thank God. I feel like I can't even because if I were him and my 16
year old was like, dad, can you quit your job and like support me and take me snowboarding? I'd be like,
hell no. Right. Me too, probably. Absolutely not. Like I need to work, you know, bankruptcy, like all this
stuff that we went through growing up. Why would you quit your job? So it was kind of silly. But I also
think valid because everyone that saw me snowboard at that age said I was really good. Like everyone was like,
damn. But so tell me if this is a stupid question. But like, I think from what I know, skiing, snowboarding,
like, that's all expense. It's an expensive. It's an expensive.
expensive sport to go rent the things you need, you need a thousand things, the outfit, the gloves.
I went to Utah for the first time I pushed him out and it's like, oh, I need this face mask thing.
It was like hundreds of dollars.
So how if you were saying you grew up in a house with not a lot of money?
Like how were you, how did you get like introduced to the sport or were like around it or could afford it?
Well, how we could afford it.
It's a great question.
Because there are people who will say that I like literally grew up with a bunch of money and then I'm a rich kid, not the case at all.
My dad, you know, like did real estate for a bit. He like came to the States. His first job, he went to school, did like engineering. But like way back then when when no one cared and like it didn't pay that well. And then he did real estate, which like again was kind of rough back then. My mom worked at Korean Airlines at LAX. So they definitely like couldn't afford the lavish trips and like all the international flights I had to take. But because my mom worked for Korean Air,
we got really cheap standby tickets.
So when I would like go to a competition anywhere, really, to Star Alliance,
I'd always be on a standby flight.
And I think we'd get them for like 40 bucks.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
So, but then there would be times where like I'd have to take the craziest flights,
like have three layovers, have to wait for each flight.
Yeah.
There were times where I'd sleep at the airport because like we couldn't get on a flight
for a couple days.
Ugh, that's so annoying.
Which sucked.
Yeah.
And it would also suck because I would.
would win, you know, I'd win the event. And I'm watching, like, all the kids I competed against
get on their flights and go home. Meanwhile, like, I'm at the airport for three days.
Were you, like, embarrassed?
Of course. Yeah. Yeah, I was so embarrassed. You're like, if this isn't a line, like, I'm winning,
but I'm sleeping on the airport floor. Yeah. And, like, a lot of my friends also came from
money. You know, I'm, like, going over to their mansions in Utah. Like, they have, like,
a skate boarding ramp. Like, they have foam pits. Like, they have trampolines. They have
gorgeous, they have a backyard that's big, you know, and I'd come home to my house. And I'm like,
like, getting stairs was a dream of mine. Like, I wanted stairs in my house. Because you grew up in
one floor. Yeah. Really? It's things like that. And now that you have stairs? Of course I have stairs.
And you love it. No. It's annoying. You're like, shit. You're like, one floor is easier. Yeah,
I leave something upstairs. I'm like, no. Was money a drive for you? Were you like, I'm going to get out of this
life and I'm going to make a lot of money and help my family.
Well, no, because I don't think, I didn't know that there was money in snowboarding and there
really wasn't and there isn't really.
Like the only rich snowboarder that made a lot of money I could think of as Sean White.
Yeah.
But he also skateboarded.
Right.
Like he did two sports.
Right.
And he was amazing at both.
And for me, like as a woman, as an Asian American, like I don't know.
I didn't, one, I didn't see that period.
But because I didn't see, I also was like, I'm never going to get the same opportunities.
Yeah.
As anyone.
So when I started doing really well and making money, I was like, damn.
Is the money in the sports from sponsorships?
Yeah.
That's how it works.
Yeah.
So what was your first, like, big sponsor?
Ooh, big sponsor.
My first big sponsor was with Monster Energy.
Oh.
At 13, I'm still with them.
Really?
And that contract changed my life.
Really?
Yeah.
It was six figures.
Wow.
And I was like...
And that's when, I mean, you said he retired her parents at...
So I retired my parents when I became a millionaire.
I love how you talk about it.
You go fucking girl.
I love that.
I feel like I never talked about it.
I feel like so many people, it's like, you know, and it's like fucking own it.
You did it.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Why not?
I mean, it's such an honor and a privilege.
to do that for my parents.
Like, they took such a big risk on me.
And so to be able to get my mom out of a really shitty work environment, too, was awesome.
My dad's been chilling.
He's been chilling.
Is he still?
So back then, he would be the one to accompany you and stuff like that.
Was it, like, considered manager vibes, like, in that world?
He just wanted to make sure it was safe.
Yeah.
You know, like, I got on the U.S. snowboarding team when I was 13.
and at that point, like, a lot of kids would just travel alone.
Wow.
That didn't make my dad comfortable, like, my parents comfortable because I'm a girl.
Right.
And so they didn't want me to get, you know, like, be put in weird situations, which is really smart of them, honestly, in hindsight.
I think back then I was like, what the hell?
Like, all my friends are traveling alone.
Like, they're kissing boys.
And, like, I'm with my dad.
And I'm with my dad.
And I'm with my dad.
So until what age did he do that?
Oh, my gosh.
until my first Olympics.
Which was...
Like, when I was 17.
Like, basically, when I was a minor,
I was like, I had to have an adult with me.
Yeah.
And you're like, looking back,
you're like, that was a good call.
Like, I would do that for my kid.
A thousand percent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because you can travel when you're, like,
14 on a plane.
Like, technically, it's, like, allowed.
But you're in these situations.
You're in hotel rooms or whatever.
Yeah.
And so why was it your dad that came and not your mom?
Because my mom was still working at Karina.
Oh, she was working.
He left work.
And then, well, my dad kind of, so he also had a car wash. It's like, I won't say where
because we still have it. Oh, you do? But it's like not in the best area in L.A. You can probably
guess where it might be. But he kind of had like some form of passive income from that. Like he's
getting rent from it. And that was like kind of how he brought money to the table. And then my mom still
worked at Korean Air. And then by the time I was 15, they both started traveling with me.
So what about your, because you have two sisters. They're older, though. Okay. They're a lot older.
How much older than you? 10 and 15 years. Oh, okay. So by the time I was 15, they were like,
well, yeah, they were, the youngest was 25. Yeah. Oh, wow. So they're fine. Yeah. So 10 and 15,
10 and 15 years, how close are you? So close. But it probably took a while now because you were a baby for
for so long.
So my middle sister and I shared a lot of the same interests.
Like we both love Pokemon and both loved like anime.
Like we love that stuff.
So we actually bonded over it when I was young.
And it was my oldest sister and I who didn't have a relationship because she was more of the rebel.
Not crazy, but like she liked to party.
Like she was in college.
Like she was dating.
Like she was busy.
Yeah.
And so there were times where I wouldn't see her for years.
She's just like at college.
And you were doing your thing and she was, and now?
Now we're like, I'm super close with my oldest sister.
Yeah.
Yeah.
How do they show up for you in this world?
Do they come to competitions and stuff?
They don't come to that many competitions.
They come to the, they came to the Olympics.
They came to like my third X games.
But they're cool.
I mean, I'll call them when I'm like beefing with my parents or something.
Oh, there's something stupid.
I'm like.
Yeah.
Can you believe that?
Right.
Dad did this.
Right.
So embarrassing.
Did they ever get, like, jealous over the time your parents put into you or anything like that?
They're not competitive people.
Yeah?
No.
And I think it was like, I think they were old enough to where they didn't mind not having my parents around.
Right.
Like, at that age.
Yeah.
Like, ugh.
Let them go.
Yeah.
You know?
Yeah.
Like, they were living their own lives.
Yeah.
Luckily.
I feel like if it was closer and age.
it would probably be harder.
Totally.
And my mom, you know, like my parents had a good job checking in.
Yeah.
They're like, okay, what's up?
And how proud are they of you now?
So proud.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It all worked out.
Like everyone's benefiting from it too, you know.
Do they?
Like, they're, I mean, they're living their own lives.
Of course.
Yeah.
But, like, you know, I always help them out.
Yeah.
You know, connect them with people even if they're looking for different opportunities.
Yeah.
You know, I can buy them nice.
things like for like birthdays and stuff yeah like I feel like it's fun so when you you did go to college
though you got into Princeton it's like enough with how oh yeah I'm done you are you know it's like
at least like don't go to college like don't get into a good school no I'm not kidding but like
you got into a fucking Ivy League right Princeton is Ivy League and you're an Olympic athlete
so you get into Princeton because why why did you even think
to go that route. You wanted a backup?
So I was homeschooled. I started homeschooling when I was 11 or 12 because I was traveling so much.
I was so busy. And I think like as I gained success in my sport, I was losing a sense of
self too because I was homeschooled. Like I only knew people in the industry.
Right. I didn't really have friends outside of it. I was traveling so much.
it made me a little depressed.
Yeah.
Because just because I'm really good at something doesn't take away the humanity in me either.
Like there's still things that I have to go through that everyone else goes through.
And it just felt like...
Like school, popular kids, boys.
Yeah, drama.
Like, all of it.
And I just felt that my world became so small because I was then scared to tell my
friends about what I was going through because I didn't want the gossip to spread.
Like I was already doing well in my sport at this point.
And it made me feel really alone, you know, and then like going to my parents about it just, you know, sometimes you don't want to go to your parents about things as a teenager.
Right.
So I felt like I didn't have my safe space or like that part of my life.
And that was hard for me growing up.
And so going to college was more for my well-being.
Like I wanted to meet people outside of my sport.
I was scared.
But I'm so happy I went.
So you went?
Did you graduate?
No. I dropped out. You dropped out after how long? A year. A year. So was it a positive experience? Yes, it was. And that was part of the plan. Oh, you weren't like, I need to graduate. I need to do super well. No. You were like, I want to experience. Well, that's the thing about Ivy Leagues is unless you're like an athlete at school, they don't really have the bandwidth to like support you leaving. Like I couldn't do classes online. Like I couldn't continue my education while doing. And you knew that. Yeah. But you still wanted to go for the experience.
Yeah, well, you know, I tried.
I was like, maybe I'll go for a year.
And then COVID happened.
And so I was like, maybe there's an opportunity for me to, like, continue on my education while I was traveling.
But there wasn't.
They kind of shut it down.
But the reason why I, obviously I didn't know that COVID was going to happen, but I knew that I was going to leave after my first year because that was there from 2019, 2020.
And then the Olympics were in 22.
So I needed the two years to train.
Wow.
So you knew going into it that this is now you're not going to walk away with a degree.
You're going to walk away with just like a kind of like a checkmark of like, really?
You just wanted the experience.
Yeah.
And did you get, I mean, you could have gone to like a more fun school.
And you could have gone to like a crazy party.
You know what I mean?
You went to a night be like.
Well, I'm not like a party person.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You know, like I feel like I'm, I am a homebody.
And I really liked the campus.
It was so pretty.
And I'm really glad I went to Princeton.
Because the people I met there were, I'm still best friends with my best friends from school.
Oh, really?
Yes.
Oh, that's nice.
So it's been amazing.
And I really liked the professors I had.
They were all so accomplished in their own right.
And like the way all my professors taught in such a passionate way.
And that made learning really fun for the year.
Was there a vibe around campus or classes of like who you were and like your success outside of this?
Yeah.
When I walked in to get my card, my ID.
like all the kids were chanting USA and I'm like oh my gosh this is so embarrassing oh my god like I appreciate it so
much but I'm also about to be a student here yeah it was actually hard the first couple weeks because people
were coming up to me asking for photos and I'm like I want to be friends with you like I don't want to be
this person to you you don't you don't want people to be like intimidated by you and it was bad and like I would
go to my dean of my college and essentially tell her what I was going through like people coming up to me for photos like me
feeling really uncomfortable.
People taking videos, pictures of me when I was walking to class, going into the dining
hall.
And I felt like she maybe didn't believe me because I am a bit of a dramatic person.
But we had like an hour-long meeting where I was addressing my concerns.
And she was like, okay, you want to grab a bite?
We go to the dining hall together.
And she saw it for herself.
The room goes completely silent when I walk in.
Everyone has their phones out.
Everyone's filming me.
And she immediately.
And I'm really glad that she saw that because she was,
Like, okay, whatever you need, let me know.
Like, you know, you can, I can give you, like,
to go boxes.
Like, you could take the food from the dining hall to your room.
But that's not what you wanted.
No, it wasn't what I wanted.
And I think they ended up sending out an email, like saying that that wasn't okay.
Don't be on cool.
Like, be cool.
Don't be on cool.
And it hurts me because I, like, want to make friends.
Yes.
And so it's like, I want to be friends with all of you, but you guys are treating me weird.
And that's such a shame because, like, in my head, I was like,
I'm going to have so many friends when I go to school.
Like, we're going to have so much fun.
But funny enough, all my friends.
friends that I walked away from that experience with, like, kind of, like, heard my name because
of the other students, but also didn't care. Yeah. So it was so funny that I naturally
gravitated. But it actually makes sense because, like, yes, you wanted the people who were fanning
over you to just want to be your friend, but it happened naturally that people that weren't fanning
over you could actually see you as like a person. Yeah. Did that have anything to do with why you left,
Or was it purely the travel and like everything?
Just the travel.
Like I had to train.
And, you know, I couldn't have to be gone for the winters.
Like, school's in session.
Yeah.
But back to my friends real quick.
My best friend from school, one of my best friends from school, her name's Christian, country girl.
Like, she's from Ramburn, Alabama.
Crazy.
Middle and nowhere.
Well, that's what's fun about college.
You'll meet people from like everywhere.
And our meet was there was this like.
a welcome party dinner thing.
And everyone's like whispering about me talking about me.
She walks up to me, points at the sour cream and is like, is that cheese?
And I was like, no.
And then I walked away from that being like, oh my gosh, that girl is so weird.
Like, clearly it's not cheese.
And then we were in the same chemistry class together.
And we became friends.
And she was like, oh my gosh, I thought you were such a bitch.
Oh, because you were like, no.
I was like, no.
But also, like, I was getting her.
harassed that whole time.
So your defenses were up.
So then I'm like, oh my God, she's like messing with me.
Like she's like making fun of me, maybe.
Yeah.
And she was like, no, I just thought it was cheese.
And I didn't know who you were.
And we like talked and like now we're best friends.
Like that's so cute.
But going back to the being homeschooled, like obviously we know a lot of actors get
homeschooled when they're on set.
And so how do you make friends?
Is it like just in your after school activities?
Yours was snowboarding a lot.
Like so you had friends from that.
But you wanted friends outside of that.
Yeah.
Because, like, I started getting on every single big podium by the time I was 13.
And I felt like a lot of my friends in the sport weren't there yet.
And so I had a very different experience at that age, you know, where I was like, I was already doing interviews.
People already knew who I was.
Like, I was already, like, famous in my small worlds where I'd go to the mountain and people would know who I was.
And...
There was jealousy?
I think so.
Like I don't want to be like, yeah, everyone's jealous of me.
Right.
But like I think so.
Like maybe it was hard for them to, the friendships maybe changed a little bit.
For sure.
And I just think like, I just felt kind of alone.
Because there's also difficult moments in being successful too, like winning events and all that.
Like people are mean to you.
Like people are hating on you publicly.
Like I'm getting cyber bullied.
And I just felt like.
I feel like I tried to open up about it a couple times to my friends.
And I just felt like it wasn't clicking because they were like, oh, well, at least you won.
And like, you know, I didn't even make it to finals type thing.
And I don't know.
That felt like I got checked to like essentially stop talking about it.
So and then like if I go to my parents whining, then they're like, well, you won.
Like people don't get that you could be like on top but still like have things hurt you.
You've talked about this.
Is it the racist messages that you get?
Yeah, like I dealt with a lot of racism.
Yeah.
There's no one that looks like me or there wasn't back then.
Unless they were like literally from Asia.
Yeah.
You know, the Japanese girls, the Korean girls, like, you know, the Chinese girls,
but they're from.
So Americans aren't like bullying them.
Right.
Me on the other hand, it's like I am Korean,
but there's an American flag next to my name.
And yeah, I got a lot of really mean messages.
And I think also growing up in America,
I dealt with a lot of like microaggressions too
and like racist comments made by other people in my everyday life.
So I just again felt like I didn't have a safe space.
You know, like in my sport I didn't feel safe
because like people were being racist towards me online,
even on the mountain.
And then when I was out and about in the streets,
It's like same thing.
What would people say in the mountain?
Like you shouldn't be representing us.
Like, why would we have it?
Like, why does she get to represent the U.S.?
Like when she's not even from here?
Like, which is not true.
I was born in Long Beach, California.
Right.
Just a lot.
And I think it's hurtful because it's something I literally can't change about myself.
Not that I want to.
But if it's like, oh, your hair.
is ugly. Like I could change my hair. Like there are things that that hurt. Yeah. Yeah. And I think also my
dad always being on the mountain with me speaking to me in Korean just I felt like kept just pushing that
narrative in a way I didn't want. Were you embarrassed when you would do that? No, I feel bad for my
dad like low key. He caught so many strays. Like from you? Like I'm like so I was so embarrassed by
him for so many reasons. And I just feel like that one was unfair. And now it's like when you grow up
you realize how much of this person
has done for you and blah blah blah you feel bad
you feel bad about it and also probably now you
I'm assuming you own so much more of who you are right
like fuck these fuck everyone
dad scream in Korean on the mountain
is that how you feel now? Totally
Yeah I know it's so funny because I feel like my dad
got made fun of for the things that he did
like he would follow me down the half pipe like in the middle
and like yell not yell at me but like yell things so that I could focus
on my training and, like, things to pay attention to while I was snowboarding.
And, like, people get so mad that he'd do that.
But now when you go, so many parents are doing that where they're, like, following their kid down the middle and, like, yelling at them.
Yeah.
So, I don't know.
My daughter...
He set a precedent.
He did.
Does he know how to snowboard?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But he got double knee replacement surgery, so...
Not because of an injury, because of a...
He was just old.
My dad's 70.
Only 70 now.
Because you were saying somewhere
I think that your mom is young
Had you had her kids young, right?
Yeah.
Because I think I saw you were talking about
Wanting to be a young mom
Because your mom was a young mom
My mom had me when she was like 27, 28
So your dad was
Is older than her?
My dad has 16 years on her
Oh yeah
My mom's 54
Okay
Yeah
And how's she doing?
Great.
She snowboards?
Yeah.
Everyone does?
Like you're 16.
Sister is everybody?
Yeah, we all learn together.
Okay.
Yeah.
I mean, my oldest sister, Tracy, she loves snowboarding.
Like, her and her husband go all the time.
They're always asking me for stuff.
Gear?
Yeah.
They're like, oh, like, or even just like passes to mountains or whatever.
Oh, okay.
So, like you have, like you could just hook it up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
But they always have a blast snowboarding.
My middle sister, Erica, she doesn't as much.
I'm trying to remember if she skis or snowboard.
She doesn't like it, though.
When I went, like I was telling you for the first time, I literally skied for the first time now, Sundance in Utah.
Oh, like recently.
Yes, I got in skis for the first time of my life.
And I saw people doing like snowboarding for the first time in their lives.
And I felt so bad for them.
I feel like snowboarding for beginners is harder than skiing for beginners, right?
It is.
They were eating shit every second.
Like I thought I envisioned myself being on my ass and I was like, well, skis.
I'm not on my ass.
I was like I stayed up right.
Yeah.
And these snowboarding people were flipping over.
Do you have to do that?
Like, it probably looks so classy on you when you fall like you get up probably so effortlessly and aesthetically.
Yeah, I mean, 95% of the time you fall in our butts.
Yeah.
So it's just like, oh, that's so annoying.
You slide and get up and you're fine.
And then push yourself up like that.
Yeah, you just like kind of use momentum and get up.
So when was I seeing people like flip over?
But also like...
They don't know what they're doing.
Yeah.
Can you snowboard with like...
Beginners?
No.
No.
Like if you're going for fun, I mean.
You're going for fun.
It needs to be like on your level.
I don't know if I can like...
Like my fun is different.
Yeah.
Yeah.
My fun is like if I'm not doing a trick in the year,
I'm not having fun.
You're not having fun anymore.
Like the threshold is high.
Yeah. I need some form of adrenaline.
And the fear of injuries, is that real for you? Like, do you, are you scared to get hurt?
No.
Not. No, because it happens.
Yeah.
You know, like, that's a question I ask a lot. Like, how do you, how are you not scared? Are you not scared?
Like, I'm not allowed to be scared. I pick the wrong sport to be scared.
Yeah.
You know, like if I was scared and I let that conversation even happen in my head, then I...
You would be paralyzed.
I should stop.
Like, I'm not going to get anywhere.
Did you see the Lindsey Vaughn situation in the Olympics?
I saw she was cheering you on, too, on Instagram.
Yeah, I love Lindsay.
I actually called her the other day.
Check in on her.
See how she was doing.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah.
How would it do you feel seeing that, that she was like doing everything, come back after her injury?
I mean, hers was a little worse than what you went through, but, you know, she did.
did the same thing as you, came back after an injury, and it didn't go well for her.
Did you feel, I mean, we all were like, feeling so terrible.
It was so hard to watch because I adore her.
And she is such an iconic figure in alpine skiing.
And, you know, I think, like, I also, it made me sad because I knew the minute it happened,
how mean people were going to be to her.
Oh, the people would be like, you fucking did this.
Yeah, and take away from all the incredible things she's been able to do since she came back out of retirement to do this.
I don't have, like, my ACL's 85% horn.
Like, I barely have one too.
Really?
Yeah, and it's been like that for 10 years.
Do you feel it on a daily basis?
Yeah, like when I walk my leg will give out.
Yeah.
But it doesn't hurt.
That's the thing.
And I think, like, people like Lindsay and I maybe pain, like, some people do it, and it's so painful.
And it's so, like, it's really, really bad.
But some people, it doesn't really bother them.
There's so many snowboarders, so many skiers that do their sports without ECLs.
So I get why she did it.
You get why she.
You related to that.
Like, you could see yourself doing that, too.
A hundred percent.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And I think that it sucks as that that happened.
And it seems like what happened to make her fall that way was such a freak small mistake.
But they're going so fast too.
I don't know.
It's just sometimes it just sucks.
And sometimes there's no explanation for why things happen.
And like you just have to deal with it and move on.
Same for me.
I'm an amazing snowboarder.
I fell in the flat bottom just like riding to the, snowboarding to the next wall.
That's how I did my shoulder.
Yeah.
You know how stupid that is?
So you were saying you were spinning about that because it was like a stupider.
way. Yeah. It's so dumb. How do you deal with like the spiraling about things? Are you good at quieting it down? No. Yeah. Definitely not. Yeah. I also get so anxious before being on snow. You do. Like I get anxious when I'm not when I'm home and I'm like the season's about to start or something. I can't even like picture what it feels like. Yeah. Because I'm like oh my gosh, what if I suck at this all of a sudden. Like you lost your mojo. Yeah. All of a sudden like I was just lucky this whole time and I just. I just. I just.
lost it all. Well, first I love that you say, like, on snow. It's so cool. So when you're not on snow
and you're home, how long does a stretch like that go of like, you're just living your life,
chilling? So when I was growing up, there wouldn't be much time. Like I would maybe have a
month off every year and I'd always be on snow. But after my first Olympics, I feel like for me,
I kind of was like, all right, I won this thing. Like I did it. So now I'm,
kind of going to do it my way that makes me comfortable because I was also really unhappy.
Training so much. Training so much not having a life. Like being depressed, not having friends.
Like all of it. All of it. All of it. All of it. I love shopping. You know, I love being home.
I love the warmth of California. Like, I love my routine there. And being away so much also made me so
angry. Yeah. You know. And I also hated that.
Like even now after this Olympics, the first thing people ask is like, all right, so are you ready for the next one?
I'm like, dude, we just got back.
Like, I'm not, I don't care.
You know how much can change in four, we have four years.
Why are we talking about this right now?
Right.
This is like so silly to me.
And, but that's how it felt like every season too.
And also when I first started doing a big competitions, there were so many events.
It was like seven, eight a year.
I imagine like doing eight events a year, training on top of that, having a month off and people were gearing up for the next one again.
What are you doing for that?
It's like, I just want to chill.
I'm still sore.
I'm going back into the next season still sore and exhausted and like hurt from the previous one.
And that was my life.
So after my first Olympics, I was like, I'm not doing that anymore.
Like I'm just going to do what I feel like doing, which is taking all of spring.
spring and summer off pretty much.
Yeah.
And then like I'll get back in snowboard shape for the fall and like start training in the
snowboard shape mean.
Just like, I don't know, thinking about working out more.
But if there's no Olympics and are you still doing the other competitions?
Yeah.
Are you choosing them more carefully?
Like.
So I'll only do like three or four events.
Instead of eight.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And it was just good, better for me.
Like, you know, am I missing out on like some opportunities by not doing everything?
Yeah.
Absolutely.
But it's that or like I want to stop doing it altogether.
I feel like that's so good that you can listen to yourself and know your limits and find the balance in your life.
Yeah.
Because then like what are you doing?
You know?
Yeah.
Nothing.
Miserable.
Yeah.
You need to do it like your way.
Yeah.
I'm glad you find your way.
Did you get any pushback?
Like your parents coach it.
Like, is there anyone to tell you, like, do more?
Do you have a coach?
How does it work?
I do.
I do.
I've had the same coach since I was 14.
I think I didn't get like pushback per se, but I got like concern in the beginning.
Because it wasn't like, it wasn't really a thing.
Yeah.
To not do every event.
Right.
Because also back then, like winning the crystal globe was such a big deal and it's like good for the team.
So like be a crystal globe winner, which means that you were ranked.
number one after the entire season.
So you rack up points each event.
And so like me removing myself from being a contender for that was like kind of a concern.
But I mean, I was just like, okay, or I'm not going to do this anymore and you don't have me anymore, period.
Yeah.
So like pick and choose what's better for you?
And I think now like a lot of people are starting to not do every event because they're like, what's the point?
It doesn't matter.
Like and it wears you out.
It's exhausting.
I actually lived in Geneva for two years growing up to learn French.
Learn French?
Are there mountains there?
Yeah, there's also mountains there.
But the main purpose was for me to learn French.
Really?
Mm-hmm.
What age did you do that?
Eight to ten.
Okay.
How does this come about?
So.
We need Chloe learning French immediately.
Okay, okay.
So my parents actually met in Switzerland.
Oh.
And my dad lived with my aunt.
his sister in Switzerland, like before my parents met.
And so that aunt still lives there.
And my dad did this with all my sisters.
Like he sent my oldest sister to Switzerland to learn French.
I think she came back six months later because she hated it.
And my aunt also hated it.
Because my aunt...
She hated it.
She hated her.
And I'm just kidding.
Yeah.
Like my aunt just isn't giving, like, nurturing.
I'll take care of you.
Like, I love kids vibe.
She's giving like, I'm a little grumpier.
Like, I don't like that.
So when you guys were shipped there for two years, it was solo?
Yeah, so it was solo.
So oldest sister went for six months, came back.
Then my middle sister who, my parents thought she would have a better shot at going because she's like a lot really quiet reserved to herself doesn't do too much.
But then my aunt kind of called her boring.
Said like, oh, she's so boring.
And then set her back after a year.
And you?
So then me, with me, my dad was like, do not send her back.
Like you are not allowed to send her back.
Sending an eight-year-old for two years is kind of like not conventional.
No.
So yeah, I stayed the whole time.
I went to like a language school first to learn the language.
And then after my first four months there, I was fully fluent.
And so I was able to like go into a school.
Did you stick with it?
Yeah.
I try to keep it.
I mean, it's hard in the states.
No one really speaks French.
Right.
But.
Did your parents come visit?
it often? Yeah. So the thing was my one parent would come each month. Oh, each month. Oh, that's good.
With our standby tickets. You're like, and don't you forget how we got those fucking flight.
With our standby tickets. I love it. But I say that because it would be kind of annoying because I'd get
so excited for my mom to come because I love my mom for death. She's my best friend. And I'd be like
waiting for her after school to come. And then my mom would be like, oh, she's actually coming tomorrow
because there were no seats. And then the next day, I'd be like, oh, like, my mom.
mom's coming in and be like, oh, no, like, there was a cancellation. So there was a lot of that.
It's so interesting that your Korean parents had this important thing that they wanted their
girls to learn French. Yeah. Right? I think so Korean you're ready, you speak fluently. Yeah.
Anyway. Yeah. I think they like are very opportunistic in that way. Like if they see an opportunity for
us to gain something, they're all for it. And so like having a relative in Switzerland where like I could
learn French. The relative that has wants nothing to do with kids. But we want our girls speaking
French. Yes. My aunt hated me for sure. Really? Like you think out of the three of you,
you were the, you were her least favorite. But I was funny. So I think she was like.
Like you gave a little sass. Yeah. On like boring middle sister. Right. Which is unconventional for
middle sister. Usually middle sisters are like spicy. So they're my half sisters. Oh, okay.
So I feel like we kind of started fresh with me. Like I was a whole.
whole new breed. Oh, so you're the only
like my mom's only child. Oh, really?
Biologically, yeah. But you all grew up
in the same house? Ish. I mean, they're
older. So like, by the time
I was five, six, my
she was already in college.
Right. But they're your dad's
daughters. Yes. So they would be
living with their mom, no?
No. No. With your dad.
Yeah. Oh, that shows what a
great daddy is. Yeah. Well, we have to
before, I can't believe we're almost done, but
we have to talk about boyfriend.
Yay.
Miles Gets.
I love talking about my boyfriend.
She's like, fuck snowboarding.
Let's talk about my own.
No, that's like, I've been talking about snowboarding so much.
You're over it.
I'm sorry.
No, I'm not over it.
No, she's not over it.
I'm not over it.
But, I mean, everyone's freaking out about this power couple that you guys are.
You and Miles Garrett who won the NFL defensive player of the year.
I know.
And you're an Olympic medalist.
I mean, you're power coupling right now.
Yeah.
How long has this?
been going on?
We started dating a little over a year ago.
Okay, that's a long time.
I know.
Yeah.
We did it.
We made it.
You made it over a year.
Did you celebrate the one year Annie?
No.
Because it was when I was at the Olympics.
Honestly, this anniversary, we're like, whatever.
Like, we'll celebrate the next one properly because we were both so busy.
And it was sad because, like, I wanted to be there when he won defensive player of
the year.
I wanted to watch him be at the game where he, you know, broke the record.
and I went to the two games before that
because he was teetering for like four games
where he just needed one more to break the record.
So I like went to the two before he did it
and he didn't do it there when I was there
and then I couldn't make it for the NFL honors
because I was cleared to snowboard
so I'm like I need to train.
So I was training in Switzerland for that
and he wasn't there for our anniversary
because he was still at NFL honors for our anniversary
So yeah, we didn't get to celebrate anything this year.
Yeah.
But how did you meet?
We met through our friend.
We had a mutual friend.
He actually, like, is in charge of kind of staffing our teams, like, in the health, like, fitness space.
So he, you know, like connected Miles with his physical therapist, his trainer, all that.
He did the same for me.
and I was in and but his he's a physical therapist himself but he like you know is really good at other
things too so he came with me to X Games 20 oh my gosh what year is it it's like a year and a half
ago 20 25 yeah 20 25 I think yeah came to X games with me that year to do my physical therapy
and I was kind of venting to him I was like I can't
date anymore. Like, I'm done. I'm just going to be single forever. Like, I was so, I was being so
dramatic. I'm going to get a sperm donor. Like, I don't need a man. I just want kids. And, like,
I'm going to live happy and free. And I've known him for a long time. Like, we met in 2018.
Me and my, his name is Vinnie. So Vinny and I met in 2018. And so he knows me. I'm like his sister.
He's like, you're literally so dramatic. Like, shut up. And he was like, well, what do you want in a guy?
at home, I was like, oh, like, I want somebody that's tall, handsome, kind, close with their family.
And I want somebody that's, like, equally as successful as me, if not more.
Like, that's just what I was like.
Did you deal with a lot of, like, guys that couldn't handle your success?
I think so.
Yeah.
I mean, I can't give that, like, no one's going to say that out loud and up front because there's pride.
But I think it's there was, like, a weird dynamic.
shift where it's like I have my own house that I bought when I was like 21 and it's like I have like all
these things and I'm always busy and people know I am and it's like I have followers on Instagram like I don't
all these little things I feel like added up and then in turn it was just hard and also I just felt like
they didn't understand what I was going through either yeah so that's why I wanted all of these things
or I'm like I just want someone to not be intimidated by me and my success because I don't carry myself in
that way either like I'm not looking at you being like oh you suck because like
I'm better than you.
Right.
Like, I'm trying to be respectful myself and like, like, you as a person, but I feel like
that's not being appreciated.
And, like, I'm kind of catching strays for no reason.
So I was just so over it.
And Vin goes, oh, my gosh, what about Miles?
And did you know him?
No.
Oh.
I don't watch football girl.
So do you know?
I watch him.
Okay.
But do you get it?
Does he, did he explain all the things?
Yeah.
Okay.
I feel bad, like, for his friends and his friends.
and his team because out all the games, I was like, wait, what does that mean?
I'm like, wait, where is Miles?
Like, I'm like, where is he?
You're like, I just want to watch him run or do.
What is he doing?
They're like, oh, well, he's not on right now because offense.
And I'm like, oh, oh, wait, what does that mean?
Like, I have no idea what's happening.
But I was like, I was, like, reluctant because I don't know.
I was, like, scared of dating an athlete.
I don't know why that never crossed my mind, but, like, I never dated another athlete.
And so we
But he thought of him for you
For some reason
Yeah
Yeah
And so I was like
Okay like I'll talk to him real quick
Like I'm bored anyways
I'm in Aspen doing nothing
I already did my shopping
But do you mean I'll talk to him real quick
Like get him on the phone
Yeah
So Vin's like okay cool
Like let me FaceTime him
Because Miles was in Cabo at the time on vacation
You cold facetined him
Yeah well Vin he called
Because like Vin he was like
Okay I might as well call him
Because I need to talk to him
About like a couple things to work related
So like okay let's just like do this
And you guys give me
And it was so quick
like, hey, what's up?
He's like, hey, I go, like,
In Cabo, I heard. He's like, yeah,
I'm talking, like, super small talk.
I get off the phone. I'm like, okay, well, I have to go to practice
because X games is coming up.
Like, I'll talk to you later.
And then Vinny gave him my number.
And it wasn't, like, a big enough conversation to where I thought he was,
like, going to reach out to me after.
I was like, oh, whatever.
He's just, like, whatever, when in death,
I'm never going to hear from this man again.
After practice, he texted me.
He was like, hey, how did it go?
It's Miles.
And I was like, like, do I have really low standards?
There was that sweet?
You're like, is the bar low or is he the nicest guy I've ever met?
And he's texting me every day since then.
Oh.
Like after that, we were texting so much, having so much fun texting.
And then he'd be like, okay, going to bed, good night.
Next morning.
Good morning.
Before you even had FaceTime.
Like right after we'd like FaceTime.
No, like actual FaceTime.
No, like actual FaceTime, like meeting.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Like you were texting and talking.
He was texting me every day.
Good morning.
So when did you get to meet?
So after that trip, I went home for a bit because I had like, I had the month off, I think, from competitions.
So I went home for a week, like, saw my friends.
And then I went to Dallas, which is where he lives in the off season.
I went to Dallas for a weekend.
I brought my best friend, booked myself like a nice hotel room because I'm kind of like,
I've never done this before where I've like flown out to meet somebody.
Yeah.
But I was like, I'm going to pay for everything.
I want no strings attached here.
Was he offering like, I'll pay for your business or that?
But I was like, no, don't do that.
Like, I don't want to feel like I owe you anything.
Like, I don't want to be weird.
I feel weird about that.
But in case we don't get along, I have my best friend.
We're in Dallas.
I'm going to stay at this gorgeous hotel and, like, have a blast.
You know, either way, it's a win-win, you know.
And we met.
He picked me up.
And, like, he was so shy.
I always make fun of him.
Like, you were so shy.
But we had so much fun.
That whole weekend was so fun because then, like, my best friend really connected with his best friend.
Like, they were having so much fun.
Like, I knew his physical therapist, too.
His name's John as well, same as my physical therapist that travels with me.
So it was funny.
But we all just had so much fun that weekend.
And that's when it just clicked.
I was like, okay, I think I like him a lot.
And then a week after that trip.
And that was so quick.
It was only, like, three days.
And then he came out to L.A.
to see me for like two weeks after that.
So how do you make it work now?
Like is it constant back and forth?
Yeah.
It was a lot of back and forth for me in the fall.
Like when football season started.
And like even during the summers,
I would go out a lot more because I wanted him to prioritize like his health
and like his body before his really aggressive season.
Right.
So I went out a lot and then during my season he came out to see me.
So we always make it work.
Are you thinking ahead?
Are you like, this is my guy?
Oh, life?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
I mean, it's so easy with him.
Like, everything is so easy.
You know, like, if you're around us, we're always giggling.
Like, we have all these inside jokes.
Like, we have the same sense of humor.
We love the same things.
Like, we're always cracking up.
And I found my best friend.
And it's so nice, you know?
We like the same things.
Like, we travel the same way.
Well, he was so cute the way he showed up for you.
with the jacket and the Bronco he got you for your birthday.
Were you surprised that made so much noise and headlines and everything?
Oh, I was surprised about the car.
I wasn't surprised about like the noise.
You were surprised about the car.
Yeah, because I got home from the Olympics and I'm like disoriented because I just
traveled for 15 hours and come home and I'm like, what is that?
It's like a pink bronco.
I'm like, oh my God.
It's pink.
Is that your vibe?
So when we first started dating, he asked me what my dream car was because I love cars.
Yeah.
And he was like, what's like a car that you would just love to have?
You know, it doesn't have to be super nice or anything, but like any car.
I was like, I love the idea of having a pink Bronco from like the 70s.
No, I'm dead. You remembered. They got you that.
It was in my garage.
Are you embarrassed to drive it?
No.
Okay.
I'm just waiting for it to stop raining in L.A.
No, because it's like all lies on you when you're with that on the road.
And they better be. It's gorgeous.
I love that.
Is he, does he know that you, do you have the conversation?
Because I know you said he wanted to be a young mom and everything.
Yeah. You have those convos? Of course. I love that. I mean, he's such a good guy.
How old is he? 30. 30. Yeah. Okay. But I think like he's so supportive of anything that I want to do too.
So you're like, so when I tell him I want the ring, I got the ring. No, but it's even like, because he wants kids to. Like he wants a family soon too.
But he's always been like, you know, but if things change and for some reason, like you want to do something else or if there's like another path you want to explore, like,
please put yourself first in that sense.
Like, I'll wait for you.
And I think that's so sweet.
He's so sweet.
Well, we all ship you so hard.
Thank you so much for coming today.
I'm not going to ask you about the next Olympics.
That's not on my list of questions.
Don't ask me.
I'm not.
Thank you for coming.
Thank you.
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