Not Skinny But Not Fat - Ozempic & Boyfriend Reveal w/ Remi Bader

Episode Date: January 10, 2023

Today I’m joined by queen TikTok Remi Bader. You probably know her from her realistic hauls, super funny videos, and inspiring vibes!! When I’m trying not to giggle because Remi makes me laugh so much, we talk about her social media stardom, Ozempic, sharing her boyfriend on social, her goals, and more!  Produced by Dear Media This episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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You might know me from Not Skinny Bonata on Instagram where I spend my time talking about reality TV, celebrities, everything happening and pop culture. I also talk to some of our favorite celebs and reality TV starts. We talk about what's going on. Tune in every Tuesday and just feel like you're talking a shit with your best friends in your living room. So Remy, we'll get to your intro in a minute. But these are points that I want to discuss for a minute. Hi. Hello.

Lip gloss. Yeah, we're talking about lip gloss because your lips are really cute, right? now. And you were saying you're literally the only person in the world that likes sticky lip gloss. Yeah. Like people are like, I feel like when I'm wearing the plastic, like, what are you wearing? But it's not sticky. I'm like, oh, no, it's extra stick. Why do you like it's sick? Because it stays on longer and I like the feeling. Like, I think it's amazing. Do you like when it's windy and your hair gets stuck in your life? Yeah, sure. I don't care. I love the stickiness. Stop. Yeah. Because that's how the conversation started. I was like, I'm doing lip oil because it's not

No, I really don't love lip oil because I'm like, this literally is going to come off in five seconds and it's so not sticky. Okay. You guys, here today, here today is Remy Bader. Hi. Hi. Welcome to the pod. We like have known each other for years.

No, we just pretend we did. I know. We pretend we do. So maybe like a year, maybe like. I think I followed you like a year ago or something and was like, I love it or something. Yeah, no, you were cute. No, you were cute at the beginning and then it like went downhill. What do you mean? No, at the beginning, I think you said something like, where were you in my life before? Like, how did you just under my life? But I do, I still do that now with people. Like, I get like really excited people. I like follow me back and I'm like,

no, I know. I'm saying like your cuteness to me. You're like then I got like sassy you. No, your cuteness to me has. No, but I'll tell you something about you. I think that I told you this when we were at PJ please shoot like I haven't known you for that long we've met in person before that before PJ well this is the third times like happy Annie yeah but like I feel a connection to you and like I want when I give you shit it's because I want to protect you I like when people get me shit like that means that they like feel comfortable with me yeah like I act I hate when people are like yeah like I don't want people to just constantly like give me compliments and be overly nice I'm like just be real yeah So, like, I think it's funny when people get me shit and they're just, like, like, coming here, I, we, it took us a while to get this date in the book and every, because of the teams. And I was like, let me just see what the teams said. Like, I kept saying the team and she was like, we stop. And I'm like, the reason I do that is because I have been a control freak this whole time over my own stuff. Yeah. Because I want to be aware of everything going on. And you've let go. And I've recently, my team's like, you got to let go. Like, that's why you've hired us. I feel like that, by the way.

Right. So that's why I was like, Amanda, reach out to my team. No, I was literally like, Remy, you're going to fucking set a date with me. You're going to talk to me and you're going to set a date with me. That was me, like, really fighting my control. But then I was like, all right, that sounds like rude. So then I was like, all right, we'll set a date. But then it was all about me getting the glam.

And you're like, Remy, you don't need glam for my podcast. Because look how beautiful you look. Like, I feel like sometimes natural makeup, you can, don't you feel like, when you get glam like sometimes even if it's like natural glam you can sometimes not feel like yourself as much as no she loves it she's leaned in i've lost her i've leaned in like i don't know i just don't know what i'm doing with makeup so i like put bronzer all over and then put on the sticky lip if you saw my routine makeup artist would literally be like my eyes like that's how when people ask for the routine i'm like i don't have one for you like i'm going to give you all the wrong information

You don't want to put on that cute little headband and do the little routine with a little sponging. I've always thought of like maybe like trying to make a video where you talk and do that. I'm like, I don't even know how to do that. Oh my God, please don't make the video when you talk and you do that. I literally, the other day. So as you guys know, listening, I'm not on TikTok. Remy is huge on TikTok for your halls mostly that are so good.

But the makeup talking, I just saw somebody to do it. So the concept of this trend is talking about something unrelated, like, about a breakup while putting concealer on. Well, I don't get it. I don't get it. I know. It's like, so the other's that he broke my heart.

It's like really crazy. You know what we should do? I'm saying we because like one of us needs to do it is like that, but like be horrible in doing it. You're stealing my idea. Okay. It's not because it's just my idea. We thought of it too.

We, I more that like, you know, I love her, but you know Meredith Duxbury. Like that does, wait, it's kind of weird. We'll talk about that in a sec that you're not on TikTok. like she does these like amazing glam videos very close up you've had to soon she's like sing songs and like gets very intense anyway she's great but I've been wanting and had it written down on my notes to just like make a like spoof of it yeah not me I'm of her but just showing like I can't do any of that yeah but you talk about the other stuff okay so you can do that and I could do but I want to do that too now we're together let's do a collab post but why don't aren't

you on TikTok. I feel like you're a queen of pop culture and you're like refusing to go on TikTok. Like that's very weird. I know. But now all I can think about for the rest of this interview is the mock putting on makeup and talking about something else thing and doing it like horribly. Yeah. Because that is more TikTok. Like you don't see that as much on Instagram like in the feet like telling your story. Oh, I've seen it. Oh really? Yeah. I've said the other day. Why do you think it's weird I'm not on TikTok? Because that's where so much goes down. Like like okay, love is blind drama right now. like that started from this girl's TikTok video. You're right. You're right.

And I saw that when it had 20K likes and now it's blown up. It showed up on your, it popped up. But I won't talk about it. Like people keep asking, we need your insight. But like Raven and me have talked and we're going to hang out soon. So I don't want to like talk about her personal relationship. Wait, does she live in New York? No.

She said I'll be in New York, blah, blah, blah. Like let's hang and I love her. Oh, that's cool. And my mom specifically is like, she's so cool. You need to be friends with her at me. So now that people are like common and comment, it's like once you speak to a person, And you're like, shit, you realize they're real people you can't start. Yeah.

Know how hard it is being me? I always think about being you about how you like know these people and have met them. And then you're like, I think it's very brave of you. I know. Because then you're like, this happened to this person. And I'm like, aren't they watching this? Like watching. I know.

It's really hard. It's a fine line. But you walk it. You know what I mean? Like I'm trying to think if I, this was the drama. This probably happened weeks ago by now with love is blind. The Raven and SK, perfect, picture perfect couple. No, what happened this week?

No, babe. We don't know when it's going to air, dumb dumb. This podcast that we're recording right now? Oh, yes. The pretender in the future. Weeks ago. Old drama, old news. This old drama, you probably can't even remember.

Oh, my God, by the way, the way you talk is, like, addicting. Really? Yeah, and like, all I want to do is be like, glav. Wait, so like. And I already get shit for talking annoying, so I'm going to add an extra layer of annoying now. I know your number one of talking is like you love how Julia Fox talks. Where am I on that? You're like

Pretty high. Pretty high. I'd say top 10. Okay. Yeah. I just know like a few other people that you like you get shit for anything. Like do do you get shit for how you talk? All the time people do screeching on a chalkboard can't hear that horrible girl. Does it offend you? I'm just the talking thing. Not as much

because think of like it's like Right. Like I think it offends me more when people are like, I don't know, there's other things. Yeah. But like, like, the Kardashians would get of anything to get shit for their voice. You know what I mean? Right. Right.

When it's more detailed. Oh my God. And I was dramatic about it the other day. Sorry, guys. I was like, everyone went out of it. No, because when I see it, here's my thing. If I thought it was really, like, I just don't think it's that bad. So when I see it, I'm like, what do you want for me?

Like, why is it? Why are you wanting to kill yourself? Why did you need to turn off the podcast? Yeah. I'm like, I think you're like exaggerating. Oh, are you saying that people. make fun of your boy. My boys. Like, to me, that's normal. I know. Every boy. You're normal. I am normal.

So, anyway, we did the PJ play. Okay, we met each other at St. Chef's perfume launch. That was, oh my God, I'm just remembering. I have to tell. I have to tell it with you in it. That was Fashion Week. Remy was bopping all over. I'm like, how is this girl alive? Like, the glam, the dresses, the everything. And then she comes to the event, which was nice for me to see a familiar face because I came alone. But I was also like, how is she here? What's the first thing I said to you? What was it?

Oh, it's so nice you're here. Thank you for coming to my revolve party. Yeah, so you were mad at me for that. Didn't hear back from you didn't even get can't come. Oh, you didn't get a can come? No. I was like, well, that's rude. Oh, did you hate me?

Did you hate on me? No, it was fine. Okay. No, but by the way, you can ask my team. No, I'm just kidding. that I was like debating and for me a debate is like up there like if I was to if I wasn't like immediately no and I think I had something had happened but even though we didn't at that point ever meet I was still highly debating it but I will say after I saw the photos of the event I was like maybe that wasn't like I like more intimate vibes it was a it was crazy you had so many people yeah I was I was not I wouldn't have even been fun for you to say right. It was like the end when it just started like calming downloader and I didn't have to do content and all of that stuff. Yeah.

Then I was like, all right, I'm going to drink and like have some fun. But like I was like sweating and freaking and running around and telling everyone I was stressed. Like, yeah. It's better. So that's the first thing you said to me at the Scepcia perfume event. But then, oh my God, what happened? That was so funny. Okay, you guys.

So I'm standing and talking about me. Do you remember this? I don't know what you're about to say. I'm scared. Okay. Everyone there was like super cool. Do you agree? Like, super cool.

there was like a table like and we're not even talking about corny and Travis like even the other people were cool so table of really cool people and they offer remi or me me standing there don't remember they like do you want my god yes yes do you want this flower or something and he's like in a vial and remi's like oh my god that's so nice It was like perfume or a condol or something. You're like, obviously they're giving out these little vial perfumes. And then I'm like, why does it smell like weed? And then it's literally weed.

And like, they were like, do you want some flour? And I'm like, we're like so excited for the flower. The flower branded perfume. I'm like, I don't smoke. I don't know if you do. She's like like, thank you. Oh my God. Dying dead.

So I don't belong at those things. And that's why that's like my first thing of like, yes, you. you have this like internet thing going on. You're very successful. You're doing the halls. You're doing the glam. You're doing the assistant. You're doing the PR.

I'm going through. But you're hilarious to me. Like and that's part of the, like, people that make me laugh, that's like, if we're doing lists today, because that's been the concept. People that make me laugh, like, you could kill, like, I don't care. Like, you have me. Wait, I'm missing. I just love funny.

Yeah. And also can we say about what we did, we got in trouble during our PJ place shoot? Right. So that's the next thing I want to do. So okay, step step event. And then we met at PJ Place, which was so fun because I was a model like you. My first shoot. I'm wondering if the brand is sick of that joke for me because like every email I have to answer is like, yes, model Amanda. They're like so over it. And they brought me back to interview the new talent. So then they loved you. Yeah. They brought you back. I know. Yeah. They did. So I got to interview you You came as a model Paige Lorenz came as a model Cody Rigsby

Culpo sisters Olivia Colpo Colpo sister That's it Oh Chanel Chanel Iman Eman And that was it

It was a bunch of like people That were really Not like it was all different Not connected But I was like how fun No Remy I was gonna interview you What do you mean?

No Remy What does that mean? I know you Oh I thought you said How fun no Remy And so I was like, that's easy. Like Cody Rigsby had to like do a little refresher. Like, you know, for you.

I was like, oh, easy, breezy. The whole concept was like, I have a bed and like a talk show. And the minute she like hopped on the bed, like it was like being in class and not being able to stop. And it really escalated when you did an inner burp. And I couldn't control my stuff. Do you have gas issues? because I noticed that... Do I have what?

Like acid. I have acid reflapsed. Oh, that's what you have so that it comes up for you a lot? Yeah. Okay. And like it's also funny because... Was it exacerbated that day? No, that just like happens often.

Especially because like you shouldn't also have like spicy food. You shouldn't drink alcohol, all this stuff. You have bad acid reflux and I'm like I'm doing all those things. So you're not really making an effort there. No. Okay. But yeah. So we're like sitting quiet room like quiet on the set like people, whatever.

We were having a very serious, we were having a more serious conversation as I was talking, I thought, okay, she'll ignore this, be like anyone else would, and continue the serious conversation. She would be a professional. And you literally, like, started dying. And then for a good 15 minutes, we couldn't get that one sentence out. They wanted to kill us. Couldn't get it. Couldn't get it. We couldn't stop. It was very serious. We were talking about your halls and how you started. And I think it was even the most, like, serious sentence. Like, it was like, you know, I gained a lot of weight. And we're like, I literally couldn't. And you guys. I literally couldn't. And You guys, so many people in the room, they're all trying.

They're like, fly, you know, they're trying to get us to like. Really, we're trying. Everyone there was so nice. And I feel like I'm like, they would never like, they weren't acting mad, but I'm like, they definitely had a point of work. Well, I think we really wouldn't stop. Like the first five minutes, they were like, oh, great, chemistry, five, I love it. 15 minutes later.

But her game worked. She was like, let's play a game as if we were. Never have I ever five years old to get our minds off. And even at the game, we sucked. We were like, never have I ever jumped out of an airplane. Like, the dumbest shit didn't even make it spicy. I think because we knew they wouldn't keep that in. And it was just to get us kind of.

I didn't. And I thought that was part of it. She really was tricking me, I guess. And then it really, then I felt ready. And I was like, okay, I'm ready. And I was like, let's go back right now. I know. It was still.

You were like, don't look at me. You were like, don't look at me. And I was like, oh, my God, maybe if I don't look at her. But you're just one of those people. So even though I do give you shit. It's also, how old are you? 27. So to me, you're a little baby.

Like, you're not. Which is funny because to me, in like, if you're going to talk more like, not even TikTok world, more like influencer New York City world, oh, you're older? Everyone's younger than me. Oh, you feel like everyone's younger than me. No, I don't feel it. I know it. They're all 22, 23, 24, 25.

That's true. And then I'm like the older. Like, even I just saw a thing Emma Chamber, a thing about Emma Chamberlain and I'm not like a YouTube person, but obviously I know who she is. And like, I read an article about her and it said, like, like 21 and I was like oh what I am 15 years older than the yeah so see I can't be on TikTok I'll go into a depression do you know that I'm on the first card because we didn't do anything of my plan hello my gluten free dairy free paleo vegetarian whatever specialty diet people

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Wait, so are you from West Hampton originally? Okay. People love to say I lie where I'm from. Like, lie, lie, like I don't lie about, I can't lie about anything. I grew up in NYC. Like the city? The city, Upper East Side, Manhattan. Really? Mom's from the Bronx. Dad's from Long Island. Where's your mom from in the Bronx? Riverdale? No, like. Like Bronx? Yes, yes, yes, yes. Grew up on Upper East Side till I was seven. Then because of 9-11 happened, a lot of families got scared and moved out of the city.

And my dad always had a house in West Hampton. so we went we were going to go for our beach house for safety for like a year and ended up saying there went to middle school high school elementary school in the hamptons in the hamptons which was like a different world especially coming from the city did you like it hated it for so long and then like now i love my friends from there like yeah love going home like i think like i like obviously oh so your parents stayed there so my dad commuted every day back and forth to the city for eight years until he finally got an apartment back here again because it was like brutal it's far and then yes like we stayed out there until i graduate like we stayed out there but like my parents are up russi now

if you want to like come rob us i told you everywhere we are but also there's still the house in we have that house that's where the family meets up that's where we're all i'm we're all going for the holidays so like nicky's it my sister is in miami now and she lives in miami oh moved her in covo was going to come back never came back so like when we all meet meet up, it's in the Hamptons. Oh, is it sad for you that she moved? No, because I like Miami a lot. Oh, so you like visiting her? Yeah. And I feel like we just got, we like FaceTime every day. We got a lot closer honestly since she moved. So I like, I'm like, okay, cool. How is she with your success? I think that's what made everything better. I think that I felt like this is in the beginning.

It was like awkward. And I was just like, how am I supposed to include her in this? We would make joke she's like the only thing you've given me is like um mega babe hand sanitizer because i'm like you only like silver jewelry i get gifted gold you are way skinnier than me you can't fit in my clothes you want to gain weight i can give you some stuff yeah like every there was just nothing i could involve her in and then when it was rob you and you revolved you and you revolved that's how we became friends the revolved i'm not even kidding we really weren't friends forever really and you bonded on the i brought her on the first trip that i was invited to my parents were like you're bringing nicky like they were

Oh, stop. Yeah. And I was like, yeah, like, it's either going to be amazing or horrible. And it was good. And we had the best week ever together. I remember seeing, at least in the stories they were vibing. That was the best. Like, it was just, like, a good trip. Like, that's where I, like, met influencers for the first time. Saw what these trips were like, me and her just had fun together. I, like, that's where I met Pays Rends and people. Yeah. And yeah, we just, from there got closer. Now it's like our thing, like, if I do something revolve related, I'll bring her. Oh. So she's revolving with you. Yeah. And now she's like, Like, she's into it. Like, I'll ask her for advice on things. But, like, do you feel like she would want to do what you do? No, but she loves, she's said the words to me. I love the perks of it without me needing to do any of the work. She works at Uber Corporate. Yeah.

She does sales for years. Like, she likes doing that. But she, like, loves that now she has $10,000 and gets gifted it. No, I'm dying. I'm dying. I'm dying. But that's really cute. I'm happy you got closer because it's sad because you're only two sisters, right?

Mm-hmm. So it's like, you got to be, like, it's so. it's kind of sad when siblings aren't closed and especially just two of you. And that's why it's hysterical because people's favorite thing to say is comment and message us about like, so like they want to turn us against each other. Like they always are like, does it make you sad that your sister is embarrassed to post you? And like, Nikki gets upset about it because she's like, I want to post you all the time. You don't let me take pictures with you because it'll be when I like feel like I don't look good or something like that.

Nikki literally wants to post me, wants to talk about me, wants to do whatever. and like people love like make up a story like your sister clearly just is like embarrassed by you like and like says all I get it from so many people and I'm like well you're out of your mind how many years older is she too so what were you like growing up were you like because from your throwback videos it seems like you were very much like kind of the home videos that we see of of like child stars yeah you were always performing always into like did musicals younger stop that during I definitely middle school high school, I thought I was too cool for school. Like, I definitely got in like a phase where I was like, I'm not going to sing anymore. I'm not going to do the plays. I'm not going to. And I definitely didn't, I don't love my younger self that much of those years. I think I was like super insecure that I was just like not as nice. I think that I like projected that onto other people. And I think like older last two years of high school and then college completely. Thank God. I went to Indiana University, hated it transferred. Thank God. Where'd you go after? Delaware. But it was just so much

more down to earth when I went to Indiana. It was a very different type of like New York, obnoxious girl, Long Island. So randomly you went to Indiana now? For like Jewish Long Island people, it's like a cool thing. And there's like three dorms where like people would go and that was like a thing to do. And like I grew up where like I was the only Jewish person in my whole town. Like West Hampton, like the Hampton's during the year. But you're half though, right? I'm full. but like I do I celebrate it's weird yes oh there's something weird why do you celebrate Christmas my dad's mom was fully Catholic and like converted to being Jewish but always like regretted it so we celebrate Christmas for her then you do get the perks I do get the perks but just going back to that

oh I love that I I always do that I like have to finish the thought yes in college I feel like I grew up a lot found real friends like really just like became a little more down to earth but I always can say that personality-wise, I don't think I've, you could ask anyone, I don't think I've ever really changed since I was. Like that you, people would expect this of you. Yes. Like you were, was with home people the other day at an engagement party. Every person came to me was like, there's no one else I would ever have expected this to be. But do you remember thinking like, I want to be an actress, I want to be a singer, I want to be on Broadway. Yeah. Like that was the vibe. Like my preschool graduation, they're like, Remy's going to be an actress. Like there. And then I think that I had my years though where

I got so into like, well, this isn't going to happen. for me. Like it was a deep down dream to do something in the world. But were you trying before TikTok? And then I was no, no, no. Like you never tried anything. Never. I wanted, I was very, I, I pretended, I think my new dream was to be the behind the scenes and all these things. So I worked at Bravo TV as an assistant. Yeah. I worked at title JZ's company doing marketing where I could connect with all these, the talent and do all these things and put together the events. Did you have fun though being behind the same? I didn't love my job at Bravo, but I don't regret it and met great people and made those

connections. I really did enjoy working in the music industry and doing that and thought I would stay in that. But now that I'm doing all this, I'm like, this is what I really wanted. I was hiding behind ever, like, I don't know, being talent because I was like, there's no way in how that would be possible. Right. So let me at least get the closest that I can. I think I was the same way. First of all, I did an internship at Atlantic Records. Okay. Yeah. That was like the dream for me. I was trying to Isn't it so funny that, like, these are things, and this is fine if you guys are like this, literally things that sounded cool. Like, we didn't know what they meant. We didn't know the work that went into it.

It's just like, Atlantic Records. And there I was, like, sorting through CDs or whatever the fuck I was doing. It was not good. But I think I was the same way as you. It's, like, had this dream. And even though I was a little different because I was, like, trying a little bit always. Yeah, but in, like, weird, fucked up delusional ways. Like what?

auditioning for commercials sending in headshots to be I don't know what did I think I was going to be I don't really don't know but was always kind of like okay God like you see that I'm trying a little bit to like wink wink like not going to sleep in my car

starving Los Angeles but we'll like send a head shot see what happens see if it doesn't get lost in the mail so that was kind of my vibe but the other vibe was like I'm going to try to work in this at least let me try to work in this but it was never really for me. That was the only thing I felt like I was good at. I was like I've always interned.

I like wasn't, I was like definitely like an average, better than average student, but never like the smartest in school. I loved to work. Like I was so into that. So I was just like, this is what I'm going to do and I'm going to settle for this. And I think I thought I liked it. But like for me, I never was trying to do anything in this world. So that's why I truly every day, I'm like, how am I even here? Like I still think it's the weirdest thing. Really? Yeah. I remember. you telling me that tell me if you are comfortable talking about it speaking of your sister nicky that you told me on pj place that like the first time you really even thought about your body was when you were compared to her at school or something oh my god we were talking about

form spring and you were like what is that yeah and it's like it was the horrible where people could like bully you anonymously and that was in like maybe early high school and i remember a specific comment that how crazy that i'll never forget it why do I remember this, that someone was like, you're the prettier sister, but Nikki's the skinnier sister. And then that like was ingrained in my brain. And I never even knew. And honestly, it's like, it's not the difference now. Like me and Nikki were more similar in size. She like actually lost so much weight after college. So we were more similar in size, but I didn't know that. And then that I think that really stayed in my head is like, oh my God, she's like the skinnier sister. And then

when she lost a lot of, I think that was my most insecure time when I remember a summer. that she lost so much weight and she was always very conservative, never wanted to be in photos, nothing. And she just won summer change and was asking me to take photos of her and do all this stuff. And she had like almost a little influencer fees like, I want to be an influencer. And I was so angry. Like I was so like, just a bunch of my guy friends started being like, your sister's so hot. How did that happen? And I just was like, wow, I'm really insecure about this. Where now, and I feel like that goes along with what so many people say, like, how do you deal with your insecurities around other people on these trips or your sister. I am not like that anymore. I,

I, of course, am open about that I have my own insecurities about myself, but I do not compare myself to other people. I think me and Nikki have so many, like, great differences and also similarities that, like, I just, I'm like, I think I'm in a pretty good place. I'm not upset that I'm not, don't look like her, you know? That's so good. Yeah, you do go, I mean, even the Revolved trips alone, it's like, they're all fucking models. Yeah. And people ask you about that a lot. like how do you feel comfortable and you do seem so confident i feel like i get almost a little bit of this now when i'm thinking of it i've never even said this but maybe i don't know if it's the word attention or something but more of like which it shouldn't be the right thing like oh single

doubt but it's like i i'm in my own skin i'm on these trips and i'm wearing these revolved clothes and i'm still doing what everyone else is doing but i just don't look like all yeah like i've never been upset i definitely get like stressed if i'm like Nikki's seen the worst of it when I'm like getting ready or trying to like but that's me at home like yeah if I'm like trying to make sure like I get insecure and upset when I'm like don't like the way something looks on me yeah when I'm like out whether that's on those trips or in life wherever it is and I'm with friends or doing things like I am never looking at someone else and being like I just wish I looked like that like I'm just like having fun wow that's amazing I feel like

every girl can have those moments of looking at somebody else and wanting what they have whether it's like their body, their money, their boyfriend, their husband, or whatever. Okay. So I saw on your story when you were doing questions that before you blew up on TikTok, you applied to be Serena Kerrigan's assistant. It was not only Serena. It was Claudia O'Sre, Serena, Hannah Berner. You applied to be their assistant?

A lot of people's assistants. I was so lost. Like, did you want to get paid or did you want to just like? I literally said I'm happy to not get paid. I was so still in that work mode of, like. I was all offended. I didn't get a job resume. I know you told me.

I never followed influencer. So it was like that was the people I reached out to were probably like the five people I ever followed. I was not like. Wait, did any of them answer you? Hannah. No, Hannah. Oh, we talked about that on her podcast a year ago that she read it and never answered

or something. And then she was like, I swear I meant to get back. Whatever. Yeah. But she's funny. I don't care. And then Serena actually. responded and was like, please send me your resume. And now we've talked about after that was when

I lost my job, still didn't know what I was doing, but I did sign with a modeling agency to do fit modeling. So when I posted, I had like a few photos posted and she was like the set, which I understand. She's like the second I saw your modeling photos, I was like, I don't want an assistant who's trying to be in this world. And I get that. Like personally, I wouldn't hire an assistant trying to be like an influencer. And that's not what I was trying to do, but I was modeling at the time. I was a fit model. Like I was. What does that mean fit model? So fit model, that's what my dad encouraged me to do for years. You make a really great money. You go into the office. They don't even sometimes call you by name. Like you're not a person. You stand there. You are the model that stands there and they pin and fit the clothes on you. That's how they figure out sizing. So why did your dad encourage you to do this word? Because he's worked in fashion forever and he always has, it's a great job for plus size models. You can make insane money. So like he when I didn't know what to do and I lost my job, he's like, Remy, I know you hate when I bring this up. but why? And I gained a lot of weight at the time in this. And he was like, just try and be a fit

model. And that's what led to. I signed with this company as a fit model was making good money, but so bored, didn't like that. I was just nothing. It wasn't. Yeah. And that's when like that agency was like, yo, you're actually kind of pretty. You can maybe do print modeling too. And that's what got me a little bit more confident into when then I started making the videos for fun. Okay. So the system thing didn't work out, but you tried. So I love these stories because it's like not too long ago. Like when would you say you Exactly two years ago? Exactly two years ago. You were messaging these people

thinking the most you could do is be their assistant and now you have an assistant. Right. It's crazy. You guys haven't heard. Erica. No, does she, is she full time? Yeah. Really? Yeah. You need a lot of help. I do. I don't know how I was doing this last year by myself. Really?

I'm a very like all over the place person. The only reason I judge you for it a little bit is just because I don't feel like I need one. Well, then maybe you're more put together with me. I'm very openly not put together. She helps you like everything it's personal a personal assistant but then also helps with like coming to the shoots and coming but full time damn time she's not at my apartment every day like I don't like being with anyone every day right I need my alone time so there's a lot where we'll talk 24 seven not 24 seven like we'll talk all day but she'll be home working and like I'm like

start with her on like three days a week and then you went up no I had a part time and then realize I think I'm ready to have a full time, but I remember saying to my parents being so scared, I'm like, I don't like being with anyone every day. So how am I supposed to have a person at my apartment this much or with me? Like, I'm not like that. Yeah. And that's why it worked because I started and I was like, oh, wow, I really needed this. And there was so much she could help me with, but I just don't have her with me in person every day. Yeah. And I try. We don't work really the weekends. Like I try and unless I really desperately need something. She's really more Monday through Friday, unless I have like an event or whatever it is. But yeah, she helps me with all.

Okay, I won't give you shit anymore. Thank you. Okay. So you blew up on TikTok during the pandemic. You started doing the halls. So, you know, I don't have a TikTok, but I went into TikTok and I saw your pinned videos. How do you decide what's a pin? I changed it a few weeks ago.

Like I'm like, what has the most like views and is actually funny? Because I think they were like, I think the ones I saw were like the ones you did probably very early on, like free people. Like a year ago or no, no. Yeah. It's so weird because now I'm like, I guess that's almost a year and a half ago. A year and a half ago. Because I think when we were talking about brands, I asked you at PJ Place about if brands ever got mad at you. And you were like, no, actually, when I did one about free people, they actually reached out and blah, blah, blah.

So I saw the free people one. And I couldn't help but think that was an early video. And you had so much confidence to be, you know, wearing clothes that didn't necessarily look like the model, making fun of yourself, doing these like weird movements in front of the camera. how did you like feel comfortable doing that and putting it out to the world because you thought no one was watching? That's one thing that people ask me and I'm I'm always like I don't even have an answer because I feel like I always was that way weirdo. Like I would consider myself kind of funny. I can now admit that I would never like used to say that but I do like and I think that I just always was that way and I would do it on Snapchat for my friends or with them in

person things like that. So I was like all just recorded. And I, yeah, I feel like I'm really not thinking that millions of people might see this. I'm like literally recording myself in my room. So when I put that up, it just, I never, it's so weird, especially more TikTok than any other than Instagram too. I'm way more vulnerable on TikTok. And I just feel like I don't like think of the people watching. Do you feel now though?

Because I know how TikTok works. It's like something goes viral like your Hall said. And then the creator feels like, shit, I have to keep doing this thing that worked so well. So do you feel that pressure of like keeping undoing these calls? Yeah. I've gone in up and down of like being in which I feel like I've talked to so many creators about like what do I do now, you know? Or if you keep doing yes, the realistic call worked and it still worked. But there was a point earlier this year that I was like, well now everyone's doing realistic calls. And now I feel like there was a point that the space is so saturated

right now with so many people doing the same content, everyone being an influencer. And like that's great, but I 100% see a difference in what my realistic halls, how viral they went when no one was really doing it to now. Do you feel like you're a pioneer of realistic halls? Yes, I do. And of halls in general? No. Okay. Realistic calls. Where I not only show the good, but I also show the bad. I feel like that's what I did differently, but halls were done forever. So I definitely have gotten in the past few months in this space of like, what do I do? I want to come up with something new and exciting and I think I have it in me too but then like I just like haven't and then like you know it really is I've said this so many times it's like sad because you do like my emotions a lot of

the time are dictated by if the video is doing well or videos flopping because that's your business now. Yeah. This is what I chose to be my career and if things aren't going well then your business isn't going well so it just or it's your business is also you so then you think oh maybe people don't like me anymore. That's the thing. I remember an actor. I actually saying this. Now I have to remember where, what interview and what actor, but I remember an actor saying this like when people don't like the movie you're in and don't like you, it's like you. It's like they don't like you. That's like the, that's how the person takes it. That's not what it means. Right. But that's how you can take it. Right. And it is something that I feel like

probably everyone struggles with like, but, but I will say to you what I think is I don't think you need to sit down and think hard. Do you know what I mean? Be yourself. Like, do what you're doing. People already love you. And now it's just being yourself with the people that love you. Thank you.

That's what I think. I think that sitting, you can't go to be smoke a sake and think about like, what's the next, you know, viral video I'm going to make. Because how this all started was not thinking about it. Right.

It was random. Like, there was a rant, honestly a few weeks ago, one video went viral of mine, which was almost like an old realistic call. And then I just had it all back in me. I was like, you know what?

Like, Do the videos that I know won't go viral and do the videos. I can't even deal with that word. I know. The going viral thing. Everyone's waiting for that to happen. And I feel like that pressure is even more than Instagram because it's like I can tell you that made me like way happier. Like I remember that just thinking that I could still do it. Like I haven't done that in so long where that one video went viral. And then I got like 80,000 followers that day on TikTok where that used to happen all the time. And now it's like grows very slowly. That it's just. So it really changes like your mood and it just makes you think, oh, I can, I'm still here. I could still do it. It's definitely sad. It does it not scare you at all to grow more and more? Like, I always have that fear where I might be fucked up. But like, let's say I have an influx of followers.

I think I almost said out loud the other day like, oh, no. I like get timid about it. Like you want to keep the size of your following. Like not even keep probably some of it. And also like there's something about growing. that scares me more than just being complacent with like this amount of people, this amount of exposure, like, okay, this I can handle. You know what I mean?

Not me. You want more and more and more. No, because I already am at a point where in the beginning I was like, wow, this is great. No negativity. Everyone loves me. The second I got there was a point where people got me and people know who you are, whether you have the following or not, I think there's a decent amount of people that know who I am. I'm not saying everyone.

Yeah. And I already have the haters. I already have people that will never turn around and be like, oh, I hate her. Now I'm going to love her. Like, people that truly just decide they don't like me, they don't like my content. I already have to deal with that. So what's getting more, it's not going to make a difference to me. Do you consider yourself body positive, like a body positivity page?

Okay. Do people mistake it for that a lot? Yes, all the time. We try and make it, like, that's why I think it helps that I have a PR team too. That's one of the. I literally didn't say anything. The teams. I know a team.

something that they are very helpful for will make sure that like the branding that no that we don't like we specifically I'm calling you know we're using the right words when it yeah we're using the right words when it comes I can't with you video why um when it comes to what I'm trying to like represent myself as because I don't I think that people get angry there's a certain group of people that might get angry if I call myself body positive because they're like well you're not some people think I'm like, call me fatphobic and think if I have a day where I don't like my body, they're like, she's so fatphobic. It's like I just have to be so careful with what you said.

You don't want to be put in that category. But are you body positive? No. Okay. Because I really do feel like I'm just on this journey of trying to get really wanting and trying to get to a better place with my insecurities. I feel about my body. Body open is a good one.

Some people say body neutrality, but I'm like, Emma, I don't know. You know what I mean. I think that you've talked about your struggles. You've talked about weight gain, weight loss. You've talked about going to a program, right? It was like this summer. You talked about, you know, things that you faced that made it hard. Body open.

Body open. Do you think my username sounds fatphobic? I've thought about it before. What do you think? I actually, because I didn't know you back then. I'm so interested how that even came about because I'm surprised that people have people set things to you about that. With the world being very sensitive in that category. Well, at first, I was literally describing my body.

Like, when I came up with the name, it was literally like, not scam and out fat. Like, that's me. That's what I've always been. That's what I've been since I was like, you know, 12 and all my friends were flat from the top to the bottom. And I had a butt and I had boobs and I had curves. So that's literally was, it was reflective of me. So I know how I meant it. I get it.

You know what I mean? I wanted to know what it was like. But why does it, why would you think that it is then? I am not offended by it. Oh, but you were wondering if people were. This could definitely be something that people would get pissed off by. Because of the butt? No, just like skinny, fat.

These labels, why people get upset with me about saying inclusive when something's not inclusive. Oh, sorry. It's extended sizes. I know it's scary. It's just a sensitive. You have to be sensitive. I've been talking about OZMPIC lately.

I know you have. I know. So I've been talking about OZMPIC. I was on that before it was trending. So I wanted to ask you about it because I saw you posted, but I'm like, I love this. I love this conversation. Love it. But also can't say the names.

Like, I'm being respectful. And what's so funny is like, I'm being respectful of everyone. I'm not going to call out anyone. You'll still get messages of, of course, you won't like say that you're a friend, the Kardashians are. And I'm like, I'm not saying anybody's on it. I feel like it's fucked up for me to say this person's on it. This person's on it. I also can't know for sure.

But it's just my guess. If somebody lost an obscene amount of way in a short amount of time, they've never been this thin, all of a sudden they're this thin, this medication is trending. So yes, I do love the topic, but I will say, I've talked about some scandalous things. When you talk about anything to do with weight, people, like, can't handle it. And it's almost like... It's their own insecurity. Right. It's like people, you're projecting. I got, no, but I get it. Like, I get triggered by so many things with weight. So when I saw it at first that you were talking about it, I wasn't, again, I wasn't upset, but I was like, oh, like, what is she about to be talking about

when it comes to this because I am also sensitive to it in a way that I'm like almost annoyed that it's this trendy thing now when I went on it for like actual issues. Why were you offered it to go on? Pre-diabetic insulin resistance gaining 50 to 80 pounds like real reasons that like you know I wasn't judging real reasons. Right. And I think that's what people are mistaking right now with a lot of people that are talking about it. I'm not even saying you. I'm saying now it's considered this trendy drug that is just looking at as negative. And I'm like, but what about all the people that like, need it. And I'm not saying I needed it, but for health, I definitely have some. Like you were offered it not for vanity. You were offered it because your doctor thought. Yeah. And also it was brand new.

Just got FDA approved. No one knew about it. I was so scared. My parents could not. It was during COVID, like right in the beginning. My parents couldn't believe that like, because I hate needles more than anything in life. So my parents were like, you're not actually going to do this. Nanny. What do you call it? Patooney. Patoonies. Yeah. And I just like was like, was like, they said I need this you know and and then I had I've had a lot of mixed feelings because then once I was you know if you once later got into the bad binging and went off it and I saw a doctor and they were like it's a hundred percent because you went on ozempic because it was making me think

I wasn't hungry for so long I lost some weight I didn't want to be like obsessed with being on it long term and I was like I bet the second I go off I mean it's starving again I did and my binging got so much worse so then I kind of blamed ozempic but I really now see it as like if you it's really like so it doesn't work when you get off of it like you have to be on it so it's not I gain double the weight back after but the question is then for diabetics they would say use it forever forever okay so it's not like so for weight loss you could look at it like in Hollywood I guess are using it to get skinny and maybe they would go off maybe they just take it I just posted Chelsea handler talked about her podcast cracking up saying like she has it all over her house her friends come and get their shots like it It is the reason why I get in trans by these things, it's like, okay, I first heard about it from like an industry friend who like messaged me and was like, you know everyone's on this. I'm like, no way. Right. Exactly.

So the first time I heard about it, industry friend being like, you know how someone so I got skinny. I was like, oh, my God, how? She tells me. I'm like, okay, no one's talking about it. No one's talking about. No one's talking about it. Then I see it in one place and I post it like, oh, you guys heard about this. No one has heard about it.

To where we are now where like every. that's why people tell me like, oh, you're spreading information about it. You're going to make people want to be on. And I'm like, do not put this on me. Like, it is everywhere. And I just want to show people. And yeah, it does upset me if literally the whole world is taking shots that have negative side effects that could potentially harm your health.

And if you don't need it. And if you're stopping it from being in even the market because there's not enough for people that need it. Because I did post about it once and I only wanted to post about it one time. was open about my experience with it. And I wasn't talking negative about it, but I got a lot of, like, angry, which I get now, like, people that message me being like, you shouldn't make this bad, like, this saved my life. I don't have crazy binge thoughts anymore. Like, I just feel like, finally, for the first time my life, I'm at ease with food. I now am not pre-a-diabetic anymore,

and it reversed that. Like, for people like that, like, it's so true. Like, it comes to each his own and, like, you should do that. Well, not everything's black and white guys, you know? Yeah. If you have a condition, it has helped you, great. If you're in Hollywood and you had five to ten pounds to lose, more judgmental of that. Let's put it, put it that way. I have so many things talk to you about. I know we're almost running out of time. You have a boyfriend now. You're not hiding his face anymore. You're not being coy. Wait, but people can't, well, I guess I didn't. Well, I'm not like a freak, but yeah, you don't tag him. Does he have Instagram though? Yeah, people figure it out, but I like untag myself from the photos. Why though? Why do you want to keep him so private? Already just seeing,

and what people comment on things are like, how you see his ex-girlfriend in the photos clearly, it doesn't like, just the things that people already were messaging me or find him and message him, oh, lucky, don't mess this up. I don't need that. He gets messages?

Yeah, not a lot yet, but he's starting to. And then I've, you know, I've been very not sure what to do about all this. I've asked a lot of friends who have boyfriends in the industry and they're like, oh my God, if you can keep it private, you should. This kind of ruined my last relationship.

I'm just very, don't know, you because I'm happy and excited. And I always pictured in my mind like, oh my God, oh my God. Like I imagine doing that TikTok that I did with him with like this mystery face if I ever had a boyfriend. And I'm like, I want to show it off. I'm excited because like people like even for my followers that have followed my whole journey and I talk about being 27, being single, there is no, there's no timeline you could whenever

you want. But now this is happening. People, my followers are just so excited for me. So let's not focus on the negative. That's what I'm now trying to do. Yeah, that they're so excited that you're, that you found love. Yeah, I feel like I was focused on that for a while and putting that on him, like seeing comments or certain things and bringing it up to him and then getting upset at him.

And he's like, but you like, wait, does he get what you do? Like, he gets it all. He gets it all. Yeah. Because I mean, I, again, if I'm so open with the world, imagine every day of like these things happening or something bad happens or something like. Is he into it or is he like, another video? No, he's into it. He's into it.

I think he, like, and the other, this past weekend was the, like, he's not thirsty. Like, he's not trying to. No, and I think that's what people have tried to say, and it bothers me. Like, they'll see that he's, like, public on Instagram and they're just like, he's using you. And, like, he would, and I've seen comments of, like, there's no way this good looking of a guy would be with a girl that looks like you, like, things like that. So those things were getting to me and a lot. And then I decided I need to focus on him. No one knows what about a relationship.

No one knows. He's obsessed me, loves me. We spend a lot of time together. So screw all of you. How old is he? Three years younger. He's 24. And he met on an app I saw. Yeah, I met on Malks Club. And yeah, I feel like now that this pat, only a few days ago, I posted his face for the first time on TikTok. Oh, that video with the booby touching. And just seeing the positive of like people like I'm crying. Like seeing you happy is so cute. Like you can't hide your face. Like you really look happy. And I do feel that way. I just want to focus on that. Like, you think it might be, like, serious, serious? It's definitely serious. We've been, I haven't said this yet, but we've been dating since June. It's not like that long, but it's like we've talked every day since June. Like, I just put it out there. So it's not like it's brand new.

Yeah. Yeah. Have you met his family? I met his mom and he met my parents twice. And it's all going swimmingly. Yeah. I love that. Wait, did guys slide into your DMs?

No, I always said that I, girls slide into my DMs. I know. like please be a lesbian like for me and I'm like thank you I really appreciate it but like I'm not maybe one day but I followers are probably mostly women 98% or 99% women yeah I just like I would have very few amount but like it just wasn't my it's not how I was getting someone yeah you had to do the app yeah did you go on dates and stuff though before the day no it's really funny I haven't gone a date in like two years until this and then it weirdly and we the first date was not amazing and I was like

I'm never, probably never going to hang out with this kid again. Just not even like he did anything wrong. It was more just like, I just was like, he definitely just wants to get with me. And I was like, you know what? I put in my head, I was like, but what if I want that too? Yeah. So, and we didn't like hook up on the first date either. I just was like, this is so, like, there's no way this would be serious.

Did he know who you were? Yes. And I actually have put on all of my dating apps. Your TikTok link? My TikTok because I'm like, let them know I'm like weird and what I do first. Really? I really just like that actually made me the most nervous. You weren't scared that that would make them for the wrong reason.

On the first date, I would tell them anyways. So what? You know what I mean? I'm like, what's the difference? You are. That's the thing about you. You're very smart. And I think when I give you shit for all the teams and all the business, I think

you're very business oriented. Yeah. People, you know, watch your silly videos and you're like, you're silly. But you're, I think more business oriented than I am. And I'm, you know, five years older than you have a baby. and I'm saying it is a good thing like I need some more of that some more like I mean you're savage

some things you've told me I mean she's savage she stands her ground and I'm really down with that okay somehow an hour literally I know what you're talking about but yeah oh of course you know some rapid fire questions

before we wrap up favorite TV show Love Island UK I'm Kardashians okay MFK Travis Barker MGK Pete Davidson Pete Davidson Pete Davidson

marry Travis Barker F is that what is it not F what fuck yeah yes I know if I was allowed to say that word and then MGK kill yeah that is so random is it I would marry Travis Barker F. P. Davidson kill MGK do you rather be with Travis for life he's so sweet Pete Davidson is the BD he is sweet but like I like I just like you want Pete around all the time I mean like I actually I had like a little little phase where I like oh my god love obsessed so not there now because i have a boyfriend who's only one i'm obsessed

but i don't know that's just my answer okay fine if you weren't doing this what would you be doing probably in the music industry n yc or nowhere yes or no yes okay i love you thank you for coming i love you did you have fun with me yeah uh compliment me more you're beautiful you're cool your business oriented you've luscious lips your kids so cute no you guys I'm saying that because I literally compliment her all day and I'm feeling needing. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes.

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