Not Skinny But Not Fat - RYAN REYNOLDS

Episode Date: July 30, 2024

I can’t believe I’m writing these words but here I go.. RYAN REYNOLDS IS ON THE POD!!!! One of my favorite Canadians, an incredible actor, father, & funny caption writing husband and needless to say MOVIE STAR is here to talk all things Deadpool & Wolverine, being a husband to Blake Lively, a dad to four kids, and his bromance with Hugh Jackman.Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. Welcome back to the Not Skinny Bonafat podcast. I'm your host, Amanda Hirsch, and I still can't believe that I get to chat with some of my favorite stars from my very own podcast, where you'll feel like you're just talking shit with your best friends in your living room. Thank you for having me on your... What? Are you kidding me? Are we already started? Is this how it works?

It is recording, so don't say anything criminal anything. Do you want the gum in your mouth? I do. Really? Okay. Yeah, you won't notice it. You're good like that? Yeah. Where do you pocket it?

My tongue. Really? Not nicotine gum right? The whole time, it's under your tongue. Occasionally I'll give it like a little bit... No, you could do that. Very ryan dazzling. Well, I find it's like I get, yeah, like it helps ease a little tension.

Oh, yeah? I don't know why. Yeah. It started on my sitcom. I had a sitcom like 20 years ago called Two Guys Going on Pizza Place. And I, every episode of that show forever, I have gum in my mouth, you'll never know. And none of the production people made you take it out? No. Oh. I didn't really know.

Yeah. Did you notice the color behind you? Oh, thank you. Red. I was scared. Most people just go right to yellow just knowing it'll drive me nuts and that it's the color of fear. Red, baby. I know, man. Red for Deadpool. Thank you.

I want to tell you a story before we start because this is like I haven't told anybody because I feel like I'll be taken away. But my son Noah is not even four. And he loves superheroes. Like all of that knows them somehow. Yeah. He'll come out. He'll be like, I don't have Black Panther.

I'm like, how do you know Black Panther? Yes, I know. They do. They don't. They just know. Osmosis or something. So he asked about Deadpool, like a few months ago. Oh, no.

And then I got him the figurine. and then he was sick and I was like whatever you want to watch whatever you want to watch and he's like deck pool I put on deck pool

yeah I put on the rated R Deadpool and let him watch it four year old not four year old that's pushing it

that's aggressive oh yeah that's wow and then I go to the bathroom come back you were like smoking a cigarette go to the bathroom come back you were making out

like I'm putting explosions aside violence aside just even... It was one, yeah. It was gnarly that way. For kids. I mean, that's...

Deadpool 2, not bad for kids. I don't think, you know, violence and stuff like that, but it's all pretty like over the top. It doesn't feel like real world. And Devil 3, much... Even better, I think. Are you calling a Deadpool 3?

Are we allowed to call it? Hugh's not around. Okay. Deadpool, I guess, in Wolverine. Yeah, my 9-year-old saw Deadpool Wolverine. What did you think? You had the best time of her life. Yeah?

Yeah, I mean, but it's not... I swear, she's like, it's like, it's always like your kids kind of go. opposite way out. Do you find this? Like, I swear a little bit. I tried that method. Yeah, my kids don't, they get very upset when I swear. Really? Yeah. They don't do it themselves. Except Betty, our four-year-old. Because you swear so much. They're, they hate it. I think so, yeah. They don't, I don't swear around them so much, but like they see my work and stuff sometimes there's a lot of swear. Yeah. Dad, stop. Wait, so only your oldest song. My nine-year-old saw. Yeah, and my seven-year-old

seen shunks, but we'll be seeing it tonight. Really? I saw it, the advanced screening. So they probably didn't show you the whole movie because the surprises. I know. Wait, can you tell me since this will come out or can we not say it in this room? Like this comes out after? Right.

Think about it. Think about the NBA. Unsured territory room. I don't know if I can do that. Stop. You guys, so this is, yeah, we're filming this before it comes out in theaters. I've seen like 35, 40 minutes. It's so funny.

It's so good. So many references for us, for us ladies, for us millennials. Yes. Yes. A lot of which are secret weapon blake lively. Yeah? She gave you the ideas. She's like a great, like I sort of love the kind of unbridled pop joy that exudes from

the 90s in many ways. Parts of the 80s too and then parts of the odds. like as we get into that there's like there's something about that like how the remarkable amount of overlap there is in it with joy and pop culture in those eras so i yeah a lot of things i i glean from blake like i get a lot of help from blah i'm like i just really like i like this is like i need this moment she's like oh you know what avrilavine right here yeah oh you'll just it'll brush of course she's completely right and a gossip girl reference i mean what what references didn't we get. Well, there's a lot. I mean, the gag reel on a movie like this would be great because

it's not so much gags because everybody's super on it and professional. There's a lot of forgetting lines, but I tend to, people think I improvise a lot. Actually, I tend to, I write like five to ten alternate jokes for almost every one I have, not just for me, but for the other cast, too. So you'll, on the gagger, you'll see like all those alts that maybe didn't make it. And even when I watched, I'm like, why, why didn't we put that in? That's so much, that's so good yeah so yeah he's and then sometimes you're like obviously that's not going in for many reasons and do you know when like gives you these ideas of these millennial women ideas you know all of them or some you're like oh no i know i i'm a bit of a you know at heart of millennial girl

so no no i think that's where kind of our love language a little bit no we both love that kind of stuff i mean yeah all my playlists are kind of really funky all over the place like yeah the deadpool playlist has been it's been around since deadpool one yeah and evolve you know, and it's always using sort of slightly outside the box songs that like, you know, trigger both nostalgia and joy at the same time. Well, bye, by, bye, the, the choreography sequence killed. Killed. That one, that song I've been trying to get in since Deadpool 1.

Trying what was. It just, you know, songs are tough, right? Like, you write them in, when I'm writing the script, I write the songs in too. And it's interesting to see which ones stay and which ones don't. Like a prayer has been in my head for six years. years like that just that song the sequence it's used in you did not see it but you will see it when you see the film the sequence it's used in to the teeth that's that's been in my head forever wow and then other ones you just there you just think is going to work like great it doesn't

you know no matter how good the song it's not to do with that it has to just there's something about it has to match the rhythm of the moment and it just certain songs elevate the feeling you're having and other ones you diminish but bye bye bye had to be like planned and you because you did a whole I mean it was the whole thing there's in this in this in this And bye-bye-bye worked on like seven different levels for this. I mean, also just the words by-bye-bye with what I'm doing in the sequence are quite perfect. And you learn the choreography.

Well, that's also Nick Polly, who helped with that. He's a professional dancer. And so, yeah, we both kind of did our own little chunks. Oh, yeah. The parts that sound like they have a complete absence of maybe arthritis or Canadian are him. and then the other parts that, you know, feel a little bit more Canadian, what you're saying,

because there were parts where, like, the shoulder was popping. Sometimes it's just like a little pop, you know, like you're just like, oh, I can do that. Like, that's fine. But then when it gets into, like, a well-oiled machine, that's, let that. Did you teach your kid the dance and you learned it? Oh, no, they know.

They know it? Like, they know that bonc, they do that all the time. No, that was. They're obsessed with Insing. And I have to say, it made me want to see not only the other Deadpools in the theater, because there's something else. Like, I've been an anti-theater girl for a little bit.

Like, give me streaming, give me the link, you know? And then you go to the theater and you hear like the boom, boom, especially with an action movie, you know? Yeah, an action comedy like this, but also the thing that I think people are expecting comedy and they're expecting action that is sort of quite singular. And I think that it does that. What they don't expect is the warmth and the emotion. And all of that's the stuff that I'm most proud of in the,

in the movie. In fact, when we were writing it, we were writing a movie that had no comedy, and that's the only way you can write it. The comedy, you go back and put in. You've got to have a story that works on its own first and performance, a beginning and middle and end that are super satisfying. And then the theater experience, which I get, you know, why you might have felt like that at some point, but somebody talked about this years ago called, there's a phenomenon called collective effervescence. And collective effervescence is something I really believe in, which is just like a, it's a shared experience where you're having an experience that is sort of driven by bliss and joy and happiness.

And when you're having that experience amongst many other people, the feeling gets heightened in a way that almost feels like a drug. Like it gets really kind of big and overwhelming and beautiful. And I believe that. I mean, when I sit in a movie theater and I'm watching something that is just a fastball of love, joy, fun, I feel that high when I'm leaving. And Deadpone Wolverine was not written in the sort of grand and storied history of comic book movies to be a commercial for another movie. It was written to be a complete experience.

So you go to the movie and you pay money that you've worked hard to have. You get to walk out of the theater, not feeling like, oh, they've left me hanging for the next installment. Instead, you get to walk out of theater going like, those best two hours I've had in forever. And I'm going to ride that for as long as possible. So how did you get your, your lover, you? I know who you're going, yes. Yeah. To do this with you, because I've read that he didn't want to do Deadpool in the past.

No, that's actually incorrect. He's always wanted to do Deadpool. The thing is, he did Logan, which I consider a masterpiece with James Mangle. It was one of the best comic book movies ever made, but also just like one of the best movies. And he said it would be his last. And then three days later, he went, he saw Deadpool one. And he just thought, oh. to get this opportunity to do like a 48 hours or kind of a midnight run, planes, trains,

automobiles together would have been. So we always talked about it. And I was like, it's got to be a way to do it. And then it was him, not me. He, August 14th, 2012, he was on the LIE driving, and he slammed on the brakes, pulled over, and called me. And we've been basically best buddies since 2008, a long time. But when your friend calls you, doesn't text, doesn't you're like, are you dead? What is wrong?

Yeah, who's on fire, who died? And he basically said, I just want to do this. I don't even know where you are in the script writing or what I just want to, I have to. Did you and him know that if he came back, it would be like a together thing or did he, was anything cameo or something smaller? No, he didn't know where I was in the script writing process, but what was amazing was I was nowhere. I really, really, and I met this, struggled so much to find the why.

Like, why would I go do this movie? why would I do a third Deadpool movie what you know and Hugh was the why you know and it also drove everything else it was so weird to just lean into the truth in the writing which is that we sort of have this idea that like universes matter and all this stuff that's what sort of comic book movies do but I don't think universes matter to most people I think characters matter and a small group of people the small group of people we surround ourselves with and love that's our whole world and to me that feels much more Deadpool- or Deadpoolian or whatever you want to say. So

that was the thing. When Hughes signed on, it really compounded the fact that, and I know this might be the sort of boring part, but Disney bought Fox. Okay. I would make you come back for like a podcast on that. I would totally talk about that forever. So give us the quick for like the non-comic

book on Marvel nerds. Deadpool and Wolverine and the X-Men. You know, this huge story, 25-year legacy is all at Fox, the 20th century Fox. Now, Fox. news at 20 century Fox Studios. There's a storied, you know, century old studio, you know, who've made movies forever. And when Disney bought Fox, they bought everything, the whole catalog, all of that stuff. And that all came under the umbrella or the roof of Disney. And in doing so,

there was a basically Disney said to, or Marvel rather, said, we want to bring Deadpool over. We don't want the rest. And that actually ended up becoming an allegory for the writing, which is that like, you know, this idea that I, you keep your MCU, I want my family. I want the people I love. Those are, that's what I want. Even though Deadpool's wish, beyond wishes, is to be in the MCU, is to be, is to matter and to be taken seriously and to, you know, he loves people. And that's all he really cares about. Blind Al, he's played by Leslie Ogums and Vanessa and Colossus and all these characters that I, you know, did the other two movies with.

So did that happen? Did they agree? I was able to get them to say yes to that stuff. And I think at the end of the day... You, Ryan Reynolds, not you, Deadpool. Me, me, Ryan Reynolds, I mean, I was, oh, wait, you know, they've been incredible partners. It would be fun, easy story to be like, oh, Disney. I was so hard to get anything done in a R-rated movie at Disney.

But they've been, they've understood the whole thing from the get-go. Yeah. But for whatever reason, they couldn't quite do, bring those other ones over. So that became the thrust of the story. That's what we wrote. Yeah. You know, and Hugh saying yes and Hugh coming in, that gave us all the why and the how. Yeah.

And suddenly it all just clicked in. realized I was just pushing it before I was like trying to make a movie just to make a movie or tell a story just to tell a story. It doesn't work like I'm not a good enough writer to do that. So like I needed to ground it in something that was actually really happening. Myself and my co-writer, Sean Levy and Rhett Reese and Paul Wernick, those two guys I've written the first two movies with as well. Wait, so August 2020, he gave you the call and we're in August, almost 2024. So two years in the movie's out. Yeah. Does that usually happen, that kind of a fast timeline? It can, you know. I mean, if you're organizing, part of the reason too, I think. keep doing movies with Sean Levy, who directed this. I also did Free Guy and Adam Project. It's like he and I are like a creative brotherhood kind of. We were both, you know, guys that sort of lead with emotion sometimes and vulnerability, but mask it with humor and those kinds of things. And I really wanted to make this movie with him.

But the thing, one of the reasons I do is that when I produce movies with Sean, we pride ourselves in making them on time, on budget, and responsibly. And it's something that you'd be shocked with how rarely happens in showbiz. So, like you go, oh, you can go over budget, over budget, you know, so just, just, just, just fall to indulgence. And like, the movie, these movies have always worked and always will work. I don't know if we'll ever get to make one again, but I'm, I, I don't know, but they, they've always worked with constraint and necessity being the mother of invention, right? So, like, if, if these kinds of movies, you don't remember spectacle.

People don't remember, like, oh, the big planet was exploding in the whole, they remember character, they remember lines, right, moments. And I think that's the thing that, I feel like draws us, me and Sean, from rest to effort more than anything as character stuff. So the more you constrain a movie and create like, oh, you can't do this or you can't do that, the more you're forced to think asymmetrically and kind of like find ways around it. I remember Deadpool 1. There's a sequence you, you know, your four-year-old would know. No one knows. Noah's got this down pat is that there's a sequence in the freeway when, you know, Deadpool has to, he's got to fight all these bad guys. And like, the way it was initially written was

he has like all of his weapons in his bag and he comes out shooting. and we all turns into this crazy action sequence. Well, Fox, three weeks before we shot, said, we need to take $7 million out of your budget. They took $7 million out of the budget, but it screwed us. Like it was a, we already had the lowest budget comic book movie

we were making in history anyway. Yeah. And we, so we went ahead anyway, and that's how the sort of like, the 12 bullet sequence happened, which was each one had a number on it. And Deadpool says,

I have 12 bullets. There's 40 of you. So you're going to have to share. You know, and the whole sequence was built around because you shouldn't have the money for that of the stuff. So you're so right. People don't care. Like I'm more cared about like,

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Yeah, I mean, not specifically. But like Deadpool came on my radar maybe 20 years ago. I was doing Blade Trinity, a movie with a vampire. You know, it was to see that. And somebody sent me. comic book and said, you should look at Deadpool. And I looked at it. And in the comic book, it said, somebody asked him what he looks like under the mask. And he said, it looked like a cross between Ryan Reynolds and a Sharpay. And I was like, what? So I sort of read a bunch of them.

And I kind of just fell in love with this guy that knows he's in a comic book movie, but there are rules around that. And I love that he was doing things that were just completely polar opposite to what comic book movies were doing. Like, there was a macho kind of thing that happens in most of these action movies and Deadpool always leads with a feminine touch and I loved that. Like it's the reason I'm so broken is that I can stunt guys would do a stunt for me, but they would look so badass doing it. I'm like, no, you got a sashay away. You don't just walk away with your like, ugh, but bow legs and, you know, you can, no, it's got to be. Then I ended up doing it myself and it would be, you know, hurt like hell. So did you do a lot of your own stuff? I do a lot of

I have been Alex Kishkevich. He's a guy's been my double as well for years. He understands the assignment as well. So we both, anytime he's doing like a triple flip and pike position, that's probably him. Wait, and how's that suit?

Because I'm watching you wearing it and I'm like, that must get Misty in it. I think me, the Deadpool suit and the Wolverine suit, I think are the two best comic book suits. Oh, yeah? In the history of comic books. Why?

I know there's a lot of people out right now are going, Batman. I mean, you know, I think they're, because it's just so well-construed. and they genuinely feel like they're ripped right out of the comic and I feel like and Hughes played Wolverine for 24 years and never worn it that's the suit the Wolverine wears in every every cartoon every comic ever made so when he said I want to come back he said well I think you got to wear the yellow you got to find a way to give them that you know he was like great and when you put it on he said I I can't believe I've ever done this without it like you it gives you like an extra layer of that and it's also like there's an air about it that is like there's an air about it that is like very weird. I wasn't expecting. I mean, we were shot in Pinewood in London. You're talking like crew members who are fourth generation crafts. People have seen everything, been around

100 movies, thousands. When we walked onto the set together, I was in the red, he was in the yellow. The hush fell over this. It was weird. You know, and I remember this guy, Billy Lawless is one of the on set dressers who handles that. He, when we were walking off the end of the day, he goes, this was the best day of my life. Wow. What? Like, yeah, the best day I've ever had on a set. Wow. That's crazy. Yeah. Because I know making movies is hard.

Yeah. But our job is to make it look really easy. You guys make it look easy. It is hard. But was it so much more fun and so much easier because you were doing it with your best. See? It was both. I mean, I felt like an incredible responsibility to deliver for Hugh.

If he's going to do this and come back this way, I got to make sure that there's a very, very good reason and that we deliver. How could you be scared that you deliver? Wasn't the second one like the highest grossing R-rated movie of all time or something? They both were the first one. Yeah, the first one is still the biggest opening weekend of any R-rated movie ever. And then the

second one is second place, I think. And you were nominated for a Golden Globe for it? I mean, how could you even have an insecurity about the third? Because it doesn't, you know, it's not like once you find the why and the how, then it's like you have a purpose. I still didn't quite know. So I never

had under my purview the most, I think the most iconic character in the Fox Marvel universe as part of the story. So like, I felt, I felt it was incumbent on me to make sure that Hugh feels that he's not just putting something up on the screen that is better or different than he's ever done before, but also to kind of get under the hood about some things that I don't think have ever been explored about that character. Like one major question, is discussed in the movie that I think has been something Hugh personally wanted a scratch. He's wanted to itch his entire tenure playing this character. So we got to do that.

And then I felt like, okay, okay, like we got it. Like we've got that. Now I can worry about Deadpool and some of the other stuff in the movie. I'm sure like you probably had so much fun with you. Because was he ever in like a funny bantery kind of? He was like the nicest man. I always say he literally makes ice cream look like actual murder. he's that nice he's the nicest guy you'll ever meet like this genuinely on screen off screen he and I have

this funny little feud that we've always done right but if you saw us behind those doors we're like vulnerable we talk about our field that's all we talk about yeah so yeah he does this funny thing with you online right the like feud but for you I feel like it comes naturally like is you like that like I feel like it's probably hard for him she's very funny yeah yeah yeah he's very he's Australian he's like he can roll with kind of anything right You know, yeah, you're not even allowed to enter puberty unless you kill something with your teeth. Like, he's a serious deal. Right. Right. So, like, I, I love, you know, I love, you know, everything about him.

How did you become friends? One of the first big movies I ever got to be a part of was a supporting character in X-Men Origins Wolverine. It was actually the first time I played Deadpool, but it was just this, like, really wonky, sort of bastardized version of Deadpool that wasn't right. This is in 2007 or eight. That's crazy. Yeah. And I remembered my first day on that set. I was in Sydney, Australia is where we shot it. And Hugh came running up to me.

I was bewildered and jet lagged in the middle of the night as a night shoot. And Hugh came around up to me and just, you know, knew my name. I suddenly then watched him on set. And he was just, I've never seen anyone with that level of class and kindness. And it being so genuine and just like a genuinely wonderful leader on set. And I remember thinking, if I'm ever lucky enough in this business to orbit, anything even remotely close to this guy's level of achievement or whatever you want to call it. That's the way to do it. Wow. And so we just became fast friends. And I remember I felt

like I sucked in the first as a writer's strike. So I had to kind of improv everything. I mean, you know, the character's devil is called the Merck with the mouth. And I was like desperate to play him, even if it was going to be this wonky, weird version. And I remember I didn't like, but I did. And it was the end of the day. And he was being sweet. He was like, do you have with everything? I was like, yeah. I was like, come on. What, what's going to? He didn't really know each other that well. And I said, I feel like I could have done that scene in the elevator better. But otherwise, he was like, fire up the elevator.

Everyone put your clothes back on. We're going back to set. You know, I know, it's over time. Let's just go. We're going to get it. And that's what's in the movie. And that was just, you know. He spoke up for you.

Yeah. He was the producer on the movie. He was the star. He was all, you know, he was using his power for good. Yeah. And he's never not used his power for good. You know, you just, I just love the guy. Yeah.

Always will, yeah. Oh, that's so sweet. Are you're kind of like. The Ben and Matt of Of Marvel? Yeah, I guess we have... Of Marvel? Yeah, I guess we have a bit of that.

I mean, I bet I see him more than Ben and Matt see each other. Yeah. Because we live in the same neighborhood. We like hang out all the time. Yeah. And you're right. I started. Your original question was,

is it hard doing all this stuff and running around. It is hard. And our job is genuinely to make it look easy. Yeah. I'd be lying if I didn't say like sometimes I get overstimulated and I have trouble sometimes regulating that. Like my brain starts to move way faster than my mind. mouth and kind of keep up with it. And it sounds like, well, that sounds good. Like, you know,

you're kind of, it's not. It feels like a weird. Do you mean when you're done with work and you're trying to go to sleep and the thoughts just don't stop coming? When I'm in the middle of it, too, like I can find that I can't slow down and I have to just stop. Yeah. And I stop talking or stop, you know. And then when I'm, of course, from home, it doesn't, it's like whizzing. And and I need to, you know, and it's always kind of been the case. But so part of the job is to make all of this look, delightful and easy. With Hugh, it is kind of that. But then I also have him to be like, buddy, I can't. Like, my brain is like beating me up right now. He's just like, like, I got you. Like, let me go out there. I'll do this one. And you just kind of hang back a bit. And I,

you know, let me lead and let me just go. And he'll do that. And like, you'll see us in interviews where I'm kind of just smiling and like looking at him. And I'm actually, just a little bit of distress, actually. I'm not even zoning out. I'm just like, I'm trying to. I'm trying to, to practice exactly what he preached and just let let it kind of wash over me for a minute. Yeah, he's always got, yeah, he's always had a much kind of more calmer kind of, yeah, more well-balanced energy than I have. Well, you always have such funny Instagram posts, but one of the things that actually made me laugh out loud recently was when you guys were hanging out, you and Hugh and you were drinking, what drink was it? And you were like,

this is why, this is why we're never going to play James Bond. Yeah. Because he took you. Wasn't an espresso martini. No. We were at Duke's, which is a famous, like, martini, you know, bar in London. It's, like, the most famous.

I think you're only allowed to have two. That's it. Oh, they cut you off? Yeah. Because they'll get you so fucked up or because they're powerful. Oh, my God. Even if it's Ryan Reynolds and Hugh Jackman, they don't give you more than two? I did not want to test that theory because after one, I was legally boneless and made of magic.

There was nothing. I was basically Play-Doh. Really? It's a different kind of like alcohol? I don't know if it's a different kind of alcohol. It's just more of alcohol maybe. Oh, it's a lot of it. And so you guys were drinking it and you were leaning.

I'm hunched all the way over. Like, it's like my arms don't work. But I'll just bring my lips to the glass. Right. Like a farm animal was suddenly given a martini. Like this is how it would go down. Yeah. It's not a trough fuck face.

like it's a martini like you're supposed to put it up to your lips with your pinky doing something and then you know you're supposed to have a look of satisfaction on your face but i couldn't pull off the bare minimum of human decency in that moment so you were like we're never going to play james bond we're none of us no even though all of us actually fall under the commonwealth umbrella to a certain degree no no wait and is there another superhero that you'd want to play absolutely not no nope yeah i don't i don't have like i not exactly I said I put my last drop of blood into this movie. And boy, did I love every second of it. But after this, I'm just going to go be a dad and a husband. What do you mean forever? No, no, I wouldn't say that. I would never pull a Jackman right now and say I'm out. But I don't know what I'm doing next.

I don't want to know. You want to talk for a bit? Yeah, there's like there, you know, studios are. It's like, okay, like, what are we thinking for the thing? You know, and I'm just like, I love that it's just, it's a complete movie. Yeah. Like, that's a. okay. I think that's okay. So I'm not saying I wouldn't want to do something in the future.

I think it's okay to just sit back. To have that be it. Yeah. And let, you know, let it all happen. You had some really funny spots for this, for this movie. You did one with the Bachelorette. It made me think would Hugh make a good Bachelor? Golden Bachelor. Golden Bachelor. Platinum? What comes after that? A fossil, fossilized Bachelor? Here, we're going to match these sets This set of bones. And wait, you did housewives too, right? Oh, yeah. Did you actually watch?

Do you know? Oh, no, I know a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But not like black belt level at all. No, no. Oh, I love the black belt Karen reference to. Oh, yeah, I have a black belt in Karen. Yeah, that was good.

I love that too. I had to fight for that one. Really? Well, tell them. Amanda said she really liked him. Thank you, Amanda. I feel very validated about that right now. because I was there you almost like want to remember there's so many but for me since I'm

right because I'm watching it more for that than the like of course even though I like that too I was like that was so funny I want to remember it so like the black belt Karen yeah was one that it was my favorite thing in the screenings where like people would just totally miss jokes because they're laughing at the first thing and they missed second and the third but that's the best I know no but that's always the same thing we did in Deadpool one and two is like don't wait for you don't it's not a six. I don't hold. You just like, let's go. You just keep going. And the amount of breaking the fourth wall is just really, really cool. That's a privilege. So you said that you use a body double a little bit. Was it for the choreography and for the kind of crazy sequences, you said? You know, there's certain

things that like, I just couldn't physically do. And you can always go like, oh, well, did you double it? You know, like they do this thing in a lot of these movies where you're, I did, you have a digital double that is built for you basically. So they can have your digital double. You know, I can start a move in the digital level will take over and do something crazy. What's a digital double? It's basically for intense stunts. Is it AI? Stunts that human beings just can't do.

Oh, wow. But we try not to use it. You know, I mean, ultimately, like this movie, we tried to shoot in natural environments, which is pretty rare for a Marvel movie. Yeah. Despite the fact of the risk of spoilers, because if you're shooting in natural environments, people can take pictures and see some of the surprises. But we also just really wanted it to feel grounded.

Like, I don't want to see something that feels like a cartoon. Right. I want to see people, like, put it. in the effort. So Hugh transformed his body. I mean, he looked like, he'd come from eight, the eight shows a week of Music Man. It's just like

an athletic event, every show. So by the time he'd finished that, he knew he was going into this movie. He had a year to put on two more hues. And, I mean, he looked like, I said it before. He looked like Dick Van Dyke went vegan at the end of his, I was like, how are you supposed to fit into

this? And he started eating six. Were you like, calm down. I don't want to look like smaller? than you. Oh, no, I want to look smaller than that. But he was eating 6,000 calories a day and just training like a beast. Wow. And he trained. I couldn't believe that transformation. No, there was a vein like, staring at me. Yeah, there's Harold and Harriet. I called me. You named? Oh, yeah. No, no, no. They're like, it's like somebody implanted two jugulars into his arm. I think there was a moment in the movie when I was like, something's on his arm. Like, I didn't even realize

it was a vein because it's way, way, he has two auxiliary hearts that are pumping blood just to his arms. Yeah, no. But he, yeah, the idea that we could go as practical as humanly possible. Wait, how old is he? Wow, somewhere in this mid-80s. I'm not sure. He's, uh, you're never going to I don't know. He's 55. He's 55. He's 50. He'll said, he'll say, too. He's 55. So, part of him was like, I want to challenge me. I want to see if I can do this. God, they do it. You're like, it was crazy. And I do, so to answer your other question is like, we all do our own stunts to the best of our abilities, you know, but if there's something that is just to, like, I have to keep shooting, producing, and writing the movie.

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Yeah, there's a lot of guesses on a lot of things that are pretty. That's a big one. People are really thinking it might be Blake. The internet thinks it's me. What? A lot of people thought it was me. And who is it? Do you want to know? Yes.

Well, I'm sleeping with her. It's Blake. Yay. Oh my God. I'm not saying she's enjoyed the sleeping together part, but I'm just saying I have. Yeah, you've been. I have no notes. Wait, that's so cool.

Oh my God. It's so weird. I feel nauseous even saying something like that out loud. All I do is keep secrets. No, but imagine by then, like, like everyone will know. So it's not even dramatic. No, that's true.

It's like, oh, Blake was Lady Deadpool. That's so fun. Yeah, yeah. You probably knew right away you were going to have her be it. Yeah, I mean, it was sort of, you know, it was kind of one of those things where you're like, well, why not? I mean, go for it, of course. It's so cool. I mean, we're all there together anyway.

Right. Come on in. Yeah, let's do it. Get in the suit. Let's go nuts. Yeah. She loved it. Yeah, it was a lot of fun.

Yeah, she did love it. And she's, you know, she's one of the funniest people I know. anyway. But yeah, making a little appearance as Lady Deadpool's pretty cool. Wait, so who makes you laugh more? You or Blake? Blake. I mean, Hugh and I are, again, like, very just, I mean, it would sicken you. We're just all we talk about is like our feelings.

Yeah. Once we're out in the world, it's like we're joking around all the time. Yeah. Yeah, Blake is one of the funniest people I know. So who started with the funny captions on like Instagram, you or Blake? I don't know. I mean, I think I got, I came to social media later than most, as did Blake. we always just take the piss out of each other. I mean, I don't, I think it's a sign of a healthy relationship. There's two things I think are a sign of a fairly healthy relationship.

One is that you're, and I would say this exists with between people who are close friends and people who are married and people, you know, is genuinely rooting for the other person. Like if you're really, like at the end of the day, want the other person to win or succeed, whatever that looks like to them, to me is a pretty good measure of the bracity of the relationship, you know? And I feel like that with Hugh. Like, I want Hugh to win. Yeah. Like, I just, I love this guy.

I want him to win. Well, Blake just posted Deadpool and she was like, and you think I'd be competitive because, like, my movie. Yeah, it ends with us. It's coming out at the same time. Did you guys know that? Like, did it, were you like, oh, shit. We had the date first, but that was, you know, we were, both movies were affected

greatly by the strike, the labor strike that happened. So we were originally starting the summer off May 3rd, I think, and we couldn't hold that date and conceivably edit. the movie properly and render visual effects properly. So, and then they plop down in August, which I think is she a great date, you know, and that movie's so good. And do you think it's like for the same

audiences, both movies? Like whoever's going to go see, it ends with us. That's an interesting question, Amanda. I think, I mean, again, like, I think people are expecting certain things of Deadpool and Wolverine, which we very much meet.

Yeah. But I think they're not expecting the warmth and the heart and the emotion. And I think I would say the same about it ends with us, which is I think people are expecting heart, warmth, and emotion in the movie that deals a subject matter like that, which is intense. But there is a certain kind of sparkle and charm and levity in moments that I think. So you've seen it ends with us already? Oh yeah, yeah. Did you cry? I was a mess. Also, I found Blake's performance to be, you know, I know I'm biased, but I pretty good at like, I think, I mean, I'm self-loathing enough for me.

Watching me is hard enough, but like watching her, I would say that filters through some of that prism as well. I was a mess. Really? I found it revelatory. Wow. I have to ask, I know she styles herself. Does she help style you ever?

Are you crazy, of course. Anything I've worn that you're like me is like, that's me. Oh, that's you. Yeah, yeah. Okay. So I have to ask about one item. You love a paper boy hat. Yeah, yeah.

Is that? I was a paper boy. Not kidding. Yeah, yeah, for years. Wait. Is that all you? that is always been me. Does she approve? That predated. Like, does she approve of it? She loves it? She loves it? She loves it because it's me. I don't think she loves it necessarily as a fashion accessory. She loves it because like, oh. Yeah, that was kind of, yeah, that's me. Like my little grampy.

Yeah. It is a little bit like that, you know. Now I'm actually old. So I don't do as much old grampy dressing anymore. Right. You need to like balance it out. Now I'm like, I walk out of the house. I'm like wearing nothing but baby powder. maybe one single rhinestone and I won't tell you where it is. 50 is coming up in a few years. Yeah, 47. Is that a big deal to you? No. No.

I'm saying this understanding that like the measure and standards for women and men are like both held to, you know, fucking preposterous differences. And I think it's psychotic and sick and probably an aspect of a sick society. But like if you take anyone and I mean anything, the fucking goal is to get old. Like, the goal is to get old.

I love that. You do not want to stay that age. I, you know, and I, and I know that's easier for me to say because I, because those are, this, there isn't a similar set of exacting and impossible standards placed or emphasized on me that there is for women, but I also, I also recognize that, that that needs to. And I think maybe it's changing a little bit. Like, I think the paradigm shifts a bit there. and I hope more.

And you're also seeing men, you know, fall into a bit of that. Like, how do I maintain my... You're so right what you're saying. Because I'm a superstitious gal. So, like, I won't allow myself to say, like, I don't want to get old. Because to me, that's, like, knock on wood. I don't want God to think that I want to die. You know?

Right. And say that. Yeah. So, like, if we think about it like that, you guys... Two things can be true, though. You can complain about your back or your back or your... or whatever. Right.

And then, you know, you can complain that you don't like the certain physical attributes that are happening. And then also be grateful for it, too. Like, I don't know. It's a, it's a, I think, I think things are shifting in ways that are pretty, pretty, pretty good in both respects for both. Yeah. I wanted to ask you another question. A few questions about, because this is such a quick movie, you have so many amazing lines,

so much that shows that you're really good at like the internet. and what's going on right now. So we're going to ask you some questions. Let's see if you know what's going on. Okay. Oh, God. Or just Deadpool knows what's going on. I'll be shocked if you don't know.

You know, I'm really fucked. Okay, I'll be shocked. I'm ready. I'm ready. I think the internet's the best listening device on Earth. Okay. Like it. Yeah, go for it.

Okay. So, and this is, like, answer, like, what's in right now? Sox. Show or no show. To show your socks or not to show your socks? Yeah. Well, look at yours. Show.

100%. Even in shorts. Get those suckers right up to your shins. Good job. Fuck it. Make it a turtleneck. I want socks

that go all the way up. Not just, I don't want them to quit mid-bibula. See, you know. Yeah. Look's your socks. Okay. This is an easy one.

If you got that, I feel like we're going to roll. Side part or middle part. Oh. Oh. I love a middle part, but side part? I got that wrong.

Side part is out, babe. Side part's out. Yeah. But I've always loved a middle part. Yeah? More so than a side part. Really? So you're in.

Yeah, I guess I'm kind of like, yeah, I hedged my bed on that answer. Oh, you thought you liked something, but that the other thing was like rolling in the world. I always like a middle part. Yeah. Like when Blake rocks a middle part, I'm always like, yes, queen. I don't say that as much as I say like, oh, this is nice. Yeah, the middle part. Okay, so you're good.

Skinny jeans, in or out right now. In? Back again? No, you said out. Out. Skinny jeans are back in? No, you're correct. Thank you.

Oh, I thought we finished. I thought we got the, the, the back again. vaccine for those. Okay. Whole milk or nut milk? I mean, I don't, this is like top. What's in? What's in? Obviously, nut milk. No, but I drink whole milk. Oh, but you're right. It's whole milk. Oh, really? Whole milk is back in. That's the cool young kids. The kids are into whole milk. Yeah, now the nut milk is like, out. I think we're going to be okay. Yes. Guys, we did it. We won. Now some acronyms. Okay. This is an easy one. I see why am i in case you missed it okay i s tg i s tg oh god well i'm i'm i'm i'm i'm so thankful for what is it come on i swear to god oh i swear to god of course and fomo you know yeah of course

d i ftp do i even have to explain it what is it d i ftp do it for the plot oh well i don't know that well you got it you got i mean listen you guys no cap i do not know that okay you use it in the movie right what no where no cap oh no cap was in it was in the thing no see i couldn't keep up with all the yeah yeah no i just learned no cap i googled it i still don't really get it no cap's pretty i like i like that run you know like deadpool trying to be a gen z with this is no cap a f slay four our work week quiet quitting for our work week wait do you ever get stuck in the i mean i'm sure you're not like method acting for deadpool but like i could imagine like it's just so fun do you come home and you're like in that mode of like no I hang that up when I come home for sure no

problem I mean I've been doing this for three decades I was that I'm that guy I still like and I've worked with some method people interestingly enough like don't see a lot of women actresses that are method yeah you see a lot of men right because like again like that we would be we would be looked at like we're psycho yes that's that's what's another thing that's frustrating so like when I see like a dude on the set that's like, you know, plays the bad guy who's giving me the hairy eyeball while we're both helping ourselves to an organic Greek salad. I'm like, go fuck off.

Come on, man. Like, relax. Drop it. I'm sorry, we're in the 18th century, but you're on Instagram right now, you. So, like, it's, that gets a little frustrating and you just don't see the room being made for actresses. So there's a very, it's a very interesting double standard there too. And I'm not saying there aren't method actresses.

out there. Yeah. I'm sure there are. Yeah. But there isn't as much space maybe. Yeah. It's not like, it's okay.

He's saying you're a rat. He's method. Oh, yeah. We know. I know that reference. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, and it's, you know, it's also know your audience too, right? Yeah.

I don't, I can't, if someone, like, I just wouldn't work well with that. Yeah. Someone on set was just, I would feel like you're, you're making your process. Everyone's process.

Yeah. And that's not, that's not a kind thing to do. that's not a work environment we want to foster. Yeah. Yeah. Brian Reynolds. Thank you for coming on my show.

Thank you for having me. My God. I've got like four or five usable minutes there. Thank you so much. Everybody go watch Deadpool. It's not the movie that you think it is. No. Hashtag Deadpool and Wolverine.

Yes, ma'am. Hashtag. Hashtag hashtag. Hashtag. No, it's so good. I had so much fun. By the way, I went to the screening. It was a 10 a.m.

on a Saturday morning. And I just had a baby like, a month and a half ago and I was like, it was like so nice. Two kids? Two kids now. Man, you're in it. I'm in it. I mean, I'm not four.

I'm not crazy. No, no, no, you're in it. Congratulations. Thank you so much. It's the best thing that ever happened to me. I got to say, very awesome. I know. It's cheesy, but it's true.

Someone asked you, like, what changed you? I was like, oh, well, I'm definitely having kids. You know, meeting my wife and having kids. And because you're from that point forward, to a certain degree, you're playing with the house is money. Like, you kind of got, every decision. decision I made was Boulder and I took authorship of things in ways because I had this like, oh, this all fucking fails. I just love that. You know, it's kind of a super power. So like,

Kevin Kills is kind of awesome. That is, I wanted to ask you one more thing because I loved what you said. And I actually posted it even before we scheduled this interview because I just had a baby that you said in like 2016, you said on a talk show like they asked you like dad advice or something. And you were like, she's pushing something out of her vagina. Like change the diapers. I change a fucking diaper. Change a fucking shit. change of the shit. So do you have like any updated dad advice? I would say like just, you know, now it's like how absent can I be? How long can I go without even a cursory phone call? No, I, right now, I think it's just embraced this like the chaos. We have four kids. Like,

okay, nothing's going to be like tidy ever again. Like when you walk in it, yes, it will though, when they all leave the house. Right. You know, and they're all gone and like, My wife always says, they're all under our roof right now. Like, the whole family is under our roof right. We have them all. Yeah. And, like, that is a fleeting thing. It is a very, not an infinite resource, you know.

So, you know, kind of embrace the chaos of it all. Like, it is, you know, because it is, let's get to you. And it's okay to be like, fuck, I am dying here. Like, because that's going to happen every other day. Right. But, you know, if you can just think about, like, what you would give in 40 years or 30 years to come back and enjoy this. Yeah. To put them to sleep.

or, you know. Yeah, or they can't even, our kids can't even go to sleep unless they're like, in our bed. Really? So, you know, as much as I want to say,

I would love to spread out and fall asleep normally. Yeah. Again, I, you know, when your Hughes age. That's true. That's true. God willing.

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