Not Skinny But Not Fat - SCHEANA SHAY! Her Engagement and Season 9 of VPR

Episode Date: February 1, 2022

Scheana Shay from Vanderpump Rules joins me to discuss the sh*tshow that was this season! And her fiancée , Brock was in the middle of a lot of the…shit. Is scheana mad at Lala for blowing up their spot at James and Raquel’s engagement weekend? How did it feel that no one was happy for her engagemwnr announcement? Did her ring actually cost 25K? Did Brock actually split it on 3 credit cards? You’ll be shocked at how soon she started filming after giving birth. Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Sheena is here from Vanderpump Rules. you guys all know her, you guys love her, you guys had a lot to say about her this season and all the other seasons. Sheena, hi. Hi. Hi. Oh, my God. They had so much to say, especially after the finale. Like, so much. My Twitter yesterday, I was like, block, block, block. And I haven't done that in years. Wait, babe. Okay, first of your Twitter. I remember when I was like more on Twitter, you used to post like astrology shit all the time. I thought you were like hacked. No, so I did this, like, app. It was something where, like,

I would get my horoscope every day. It would tweet me. And then I realized that it was just tweeting it at, like, 4 a.m. every day. But I did it so long ago that I didn't know how to stop it. And finally, I was like, I told my sister, I was like, all right, I'm putting my foot down.

You need to figure this out for me. Like, it was, like, a website that didn't even, like, exist anymore. But we found it in the Twitter settings, like how to get rid of it. And I'm like, oh, Thank God, because if I didn't tweet for like a week, it was just like astrology, astrology. No, I know. And I was like, is this Twitter? Like I don't really. So you're saying you've been getting

a lot of shit on Twitter. Is Twitter more toxic for you than like Instagram? Instagram. I have a lot of words blocked. So I don't see as many negative comments on Instagram. And I don't check those DMs. I only check the positive ones. If I can tell someone's talking shit, I'm not even going to open it. You know, that's the last thing when I was thinking about us planning on to speak today. And, like, I don't even have to really, like, I know everything is on the top of my mind what I want to talk to you about. But I think the last thing was like, how does this bitch handle this shit for so many years? Like, is it worth it at the end of the day? Is it worth it?

The money, the, like, fame, the good parts, because there are good parts. Like, is it worth the constant. like having to be in this like defense mode of like who's going to talk what are you going to say like is it worth it yeah it's totally worth it to me otherwise i wouldn't still be doing it i used to deal with it by smoking a lot of weed but since you know obviously getting pregnant baby i'm still pumping milk six times a freaking day because she stopped latching so i can't turn to weed anymore so now it's like i just look at my beautiful family and see how happy I am in the life I get to live. And anyone who has anything less to say,

it's just, you know, like, I feel sorry for them because I'm so happy. And it's, you know, this life I get to live. I get to be home every day with my daughter and not miss out on moments because of this job. So it's incredible. Are you still following 420 people because you're so obsessed with weed or did that change? No, I'm still following 420 because that's just like, been a thing for so long now that it's just going to stick. So I think I don't know how if someone like disabled their account, but I'm down to like 418. So I need to. Or someone blocked you. Maybe that that could be it too. So I need to go follow. I remember I was so flattered when you followed me and made some changes to get to the 420. That's when you know it's real.

It's like she got to be 420. Yeah, you had a Miley Cyrus. phase for sure with we i know yeah do you miss it do you miss it yes and no i mean like sometimes just to like decompress or if i'm at like a festival or something but it's been so long at this point and i know i'm providing the best nutrition for my daughter so that's what matters at the end of the day so she stopped latching does that that upset you or are you like happy about it how are you feeling. In hindsight, now I'm glad that she was the one to do it because if it was a comfort thing and she's a year old, like that was the longest I planned on nursing. So I was just thinking, what am I going to do when, you know, a year hits and I'm done. But she's like, no, mom, I need your boob. Like I need it to sleep. I need it for comfort.

So in hindsight, I'm happy that she made the decision. But in the moment, it was really. because I would, how do you unlearn to latch? She bit me hard. And I was like, and then she was like, she got so scared. She dropped her lip and was just like, ooh. And I was like, it's okay, it's okay. And I put her back on and then never again. I tried for two weeks, two weeks.

Every day I tried to dream feed her. I would try in the morning, try at night in the middle of the day, in the bath. Like I tried everything for two weeks. And after two weeks, I was like, I can't. take the rejection anymore it got to where like my boob would be right there by her mouth and she was like like gross i don't want it oh my god maybe i need to try that with noah so he stops breastfeeding i'll just scream in the middle yeah i mean a year and a half right now because i thought it would just happen where he would be over it so maybe i'll do that i'll be like ah and see if i can traumatize

him enough to stop on his own you do you just got to scare the shit out of them and she was like i don't want that anymore natural at it china like the vibe you had seemed very natural at it. Like, did you have in your mind that you wanted to stop in general or because you didn't like it? No, I just, I wanted to do it for a year. That was my goal. And then I was like, you know, I'll see at a year.

If she still needs it, then I'm going to go longer than a year. But my first goal was six months, got that. And then I was like, okay, so now let's make the next one nine months. And from there a year. And so now we're at nine months, but she stopped latching. And that's still, though, knowing how much I'm still producing, I'm like, I'm not just going to stop because she stopped latching. This is still what's best for her for the first year of her life. So her pediatrician was like, look, if you could just get to 11 months, then she can go on whole milk.

And I'm like, I don't know that I want her on whole milk. Knowing what we know now about dairy, I don't know. So it's very confusing. I'm just a cow. I pump six times a day. I should probably be pumping right now. So as soon as we're done, I'm going to pump. And then, yeah. If you've been pregnant, given birth, many of you probably experienced postpartum hair loss. I know I had it. But more than 30 million women are impacted by weekend or thinning hair, even if it's not postpartum. And there is a solution for that today. And it's called neutraful. Thousands of women have taken back control of their hair with neuterful. Users rave that this supplement transforms their hair. It gets their hair healthier, thicker, stronger, faster. It does

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dot com promo code is not skinny again that's nutraful dot com the promo code is not skinny a lot happened this season you know i love interpump rules you know i've supported you throughout the season it was kind of hard for me to support your now husband is he a husband out officially no fiancee still okay i was wondering i was like did they get secretly married like still fiance. Okay. Yeah, we tried, but it didn't work out. Really? I had no idea. It was, first of all, how is Brock feeling right now? First of all, I think that for someone that is new to reality TV, he seemed to like kind of jump right in. It looks like he got the hang of it. He didn't seem camera shy. He didn't see, he got right in the thick of shit with people. It's like he was kind of made for,

reality TV in a way. Yeah, he definitely got right into it. I mean, I think a year and a half of doing vlogs before the show definitely helped him get comfortable in front of the cameras. When we first started vlogging, it was like a little awkward and we would do like our Q&As or things like that. So I think like a year and a half of that practice definitely helped him. And then I told him, I was like, when we're filming, you just have to pretend as if they, cameras don't exist. Just be in the moment, yell at people if they deserve to be yelled at button when it's not your turn to talk. Just give your opinion and, you know, do your best. And we had no idea that it would turn into this much. Like, we really thought he was just there to be my

support system, my plus one. And then it was full force. Yeah, he's still not stole the show, but he, yeah, I can envision that where you were thinking, okay, he's coming. on as like my past boyfriends maybe came on like my plus one he's also there but he kind of took front stage a lot i mean it started with lala so let's go back to that it seems like a while ago but how did it feel to you when lala came in hot in the season about him especially knowing what we know is the audience which is like you got you girls had kind of like public beef where where you know you said publicly that she didn't support you during a miscarriage like we knew all that and then she came in, like, worried for you, crying about how you are with someone who maybe you shouldn't be because of, you know, his relationship with his kids or lack thereof.

So were you shocked by her coming in hot on him? Were you, I was trying to read your face, see, like, because you didn't really respond Sheena's style. I think you were kind of like taken aback in those. Okay. So Amanda, you have had a baby. You understand. Do you know that I had only been home from the hospital for three days when we started filming? No, I did not. That's fucking wild, Gina. Three days. What? I've had no time to process anything.

I got diagnosed with help syndrome. I could have died in labor. Like, it was the most traumatizing experience. I was on blood pressure medication. I was not myself. whatsoever. So three days after I get home from the hospital, cameras are up and they want to birthday party, talk about this and that. It was just, I got so thrown into it so quickly. I wasn't ready. I wasn't prepared for anything. I feel like that's why all season, all I did was just

cower to people and apologize because I was being pumped with just so many natural hormones and emotions. I'm on these medications. I'm not feeling like myself. It just, it was a lot. So I think, I think. Dangerous. Like, that's borderline dangerous to film a reality show. Three days after getting back from the hospital, I could barely like shower three days. I know. That is wild. I know. So did you think that? I had just gotten out of the diapers. Like I was thankful. I was in the diapers for like a month. So good for you. I was like, okay, I could just wear a pad. This is going to be okay.

I cannot. That is shocking information to me. Did you think that the fact that your castmates probably knew that, did you think they would be more like consider it, go easy on you, like cater to you a little bit more? I mean, you would think so, but they didn't. It was like I think that was one of the reasons why Lala and I started to get so close again so quickly is because we're the only people who understood what each other was going through.

And although our pregnancies and labor and birth experiences were different, you know, I was hospitalized for five extra days. And with all of the scares that I had, you can't possibly understand that unless you've been through it. You don't understand the loss of a baby, you know, through a miscarriage unless you've experienced that. So no one could completely understand where I was coming from, but she understood me the most. Everyone else just didn't get it. They're like, yay, Sheena's back. Sheena can drink. Sheena's not pregnant. And I'm like, no, I don't feel like myself. I didn't want to drink at all. I just, it was so much. It was a lot. Having to be away from her for sometimes up to six hours and then being like, this is the longest I can possibly go

until I have to pump, go home in between things that we're filming. It just, it was a lot. So I'm really hoping for a season 10 because I feel like I'm me again. I just feel like myself. And it's taken nine months to really feel that way. Of course. I mean, they say that. They say like it takes, you know, you cook the baby for nine months.

And it also takes around that time to feel like you're, yourself again. That's insane information. I cannot believe that. Good for you. But you're saying Lala knew what you went through, but at the same time, Lala is the person who off the bat was kind of attacking your boyfriend. I mean, who else was she going to come for? You know, you're so understanding. You're like, I get it. I mean, you know, honestly, she was a new guy. I can't. I can't. can't with you. I can't with you. Oh my God. Did you know that the information that we now know about Brock and his X and the battery and the kids they didn't see? Did you know all of that would

be aired or did you have any hope that maybe it all like it won't? No, I didn't think any of that was going to come up because only Brock myself, Tom and Ariana knew about the situation. I knew Ariana and Tom weren't going to say anything. So when this got brought up at the team, party. Ariana and I are looking at each other and she was like, I mean, I was never going to say it. I'm like, how do you know this information? Oh, because Brock told you? So I was just like, honey, I don't care if you told her off camera. I don't care if you told her in confidence, in private. You told her. You can't expect her to just keep that information secret. It's Lala. Of course she's going to go and tell everybody. That's like her job. That's her job. That's insane. That's the way you see it.

maybe that's why everyone thinks she's so good for housewives because that's a very housewives mentality of like go and tell. I get I get the vibe. That's very understanding of you, Sheena. Like you're like, I get it. Then I can't. I can't with the fact that you're so accepting of that. I mean, even in the finale, people were just like, how are you okay with her after?

And I, I mean, I get it. I get why she told James. I understand it. In the moment, that was the one night I let me. myself let loose and get drunk. So in the moment, I was pissed, especially when I saw her yelling at Sandoval, then she's yelling at Ariana. I was like, oh, hell, no.

But I also understood why she did what she did. Wait, is this like what happens in Vegas stays in Vegas? Like what happens on reality, while you're filming a reality television show is like there are no rules. Like, that's what it sounds like you're saying. Like, she did what she had to do in the moment. She made good TV. She made a whole scene.

and I get it. Like, that's what it sounds like. I mean, yeah, I do get it. I understand the position all of us are in when information is brought to you during these three months when we're filming. You're not supposed to keep it private. I get it. So it's Brock's fault for telling her.

It's my fault for telling her. I can only be mad at the people who have presented the information. If I wouldn't have announced that we were engaged, then that wouldn't have happened at the party, but we told everyone we were engaged, knowing very likely there could be a slip up, but we're just like, look, we have our happy news to announce and these are supposed to be our closest friends. So we're going to announce it in the small amount of time we have left. I, at that scene where you told everybody, but obviously we're killing James because they weren't there. And I don't know if this is editing or whatever, but there were like kind of

crickets. I mean, that's the way it looked, right? People were kind of like, uh, e, uh, and, um, I posted like, why is everybody so mean to Sheena? A lot of, I didn't see all the response. A lot of them were like, duh, because she said it like, you know, at the thing. And I kind of put that aside at that moment and was like, but I'm putting that, which I get that argument aside in this moment. She just told people that are supposed to be happy for her. And I again, do I know if it's edit? and like there was some excitement, but there seemed like no one was like,

oh my God, like you're supposed to be when a friend is engaged. Is that what it felt like? No one's ever like that for me. I mean, with any news, especially in this group. I think Ariana is the only one who's ever like genuinely excited for me. And I know

Raquel would have been. Raquel. But it just, she's the best, literally. She's so sweet. In that moment, I thought everyone was happy for us but when I watched it back I was like oh my god it's season six all over again when I thought Rob loved me and then I watched it back and I was like what is wrong with you so it reminded me of the season six finale when we're at the like Tom Tom construction site

and I put on a construction hat and I go up to Rob and I'm like, I'm going to be only wearing this later. What do you think about that? And he's like, can I get another drink and ignores me? And I'm like being cute and sexy. And I, in the moment, though, I thought he was like into it and was like, yeah, you know, you're going to be in your construction hat later. And then when I watched it back, I was like, he could not be more uninterested in me in this moment. And now that him and I are friends again, I asked him about that moment. And he said he was so worried about like his grandparents watching the show and I was so open about sex that he just like shut it down and ignored me. It wasn't like that he didn't think I was cute and sexy

in the moment, but he was like, oh my God, there's cameras. And that's why he wasn't ever good for the show or good for my lifestyle because he couldn't be himself. He was always so afraid of what everyone else thought. And T, he's actually going to be doing my podcast soon. And we're going to get all into this. seven minute TV hanging Rob? Yes, seven minute Rob. Is Brock not jealous? No, we're like, we're all friends.

We actually, we hang out. We just went to a Bryce Vine concert together. We've watched football games together. So they're good. Wait, so Brock is not a jealous guy in general. No. I think when we first started dating, he was definitely more jealous.

But, I mean, he's not jealous of Rob. That's for sure. Rob Vyarta or something, right? Valletta. Oh, whatever. Whatever, Rob, you got your. I'm going to pump while we podcast. We can call this pumping and podcasting.

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we understood she was projecting we understood that she saw i have a 50-50 partner and that's something that she's always wanted her love language is quality time and randle never gave that to her that was the one thing you know she wasn't getting was that quality time and that 50-50 partner. So we just looked at it from where she was coming from and understood that although it wasn't okay the way she acted, it was coming from a place of hurt. And I just sympathized with her and I felt really bad because I knew that that's all she wants is a partner for her and for ocean just to have that presence. When she cried to you about the fact that she's so sad that you girls didn't get to experience your pregnancies together.

That was surprising to me. I think I even told her that when I interviewed her for my podcast is like, you know, we saw all this happening, the machine gun Kelly, Megan Fox, whatever, whatever, but then here she is crying to you and saying how upset she is that you were distant during that time. How did that feel to you? It felt good and like it was sad at the same time. Because all it would have taken was one of us to not be so stubborn and to just pick up the phone and call and be like, hey, I'm hurt you said this. I'm hurt you did this. I'm hurt you didn't invite me to this. And we could have resolved it in literally one phone call. But neither of us took the time to pick up the phone. So, you know, we let nine months an entire pregnancy go before we had that conversation. And I think that's a regret on both ends. And.

She's like, let's have babies at the same time next time. But after what I went through with help syndrome, I can't see myself ever getting pregnant again, especially rewatching that on the reunion and just reliving it again in my head and having so many women reach out to me and tell me their stories, all of which were worse than mine. I told Brock last night, I was like, I don't, I don't think.

I ever want to do this again. I'm so thankful. I went overkill on the maternity photos because there was just something inside of me when I was doing these photo shoots. I'm like, what if this is the only moment I get to have a baby inside of me? Like, we don't know what could happen. And I never thought it would be something like this. I just thought, what if one day I get in a car accident? My uterus is crushed. What, like, you never know. So I was so thankful we had all those moments. Yeah. I'll probably go a surrogate or adopt the next time around because it's not worth losing my life. So it was just the delivery that got complicated. Your entire pregnancy, you were healthy. Perfect. It was perfect. I had heartburn. I wasn't sick once. I never had morning

sickness. It was just that very like. But do they say that it's more probable for it to happen again if it happened once? Is that why you're scared? Oh, really? Yeah. And with my age. It's not guaranteed that it would happen again, but it is likely. And they said that they'll monitor me more closely. They'll induce me early. But I'm like, I don't want that. I don't want to know my whole pregnancy. I'm probably going to get induced early. And, you know, the baby's lungs might not be developed. I don't want to be worrying about that and have that anxious energy go onto the baby. So I really feel like summer is such a chill baby. because I had such a good pregnancy.

So I just, yeah, I don't think I want to do it again. And do you, speaking of Lala and the Randall situation, just a general question, you know, she talks a lot about nobody coming to her, nobody hearing anything. Did you see red flags? Did you ever have, you know, negative thoughts about Randall, thought something might be up, heard something? No, I mean, not like I had ever like heard or seen anything.

obviously how their relationship started it was like red flags from the beginning but then we all really saw how much he loved her yeah so uh it was one of those things where we never thought he would do it to her but i'm sure he loved the first mother of his children and she never thought he would do that to her so he's just that type of person unfortunately and it was really really sad. Yeah, I mean, he's had, he like seems slimy, but then I remember them winning me over as a couple in many moments where you saw them together and they looked like a really, like it made sense. And I was like, oh, okay. And then this happens. But I mean, listen, good riddance, like we like to say. So in terms of the, the stuff that Lala brought up about Brock and not seeing

his kids, is that something that when you learned about it from him, scared you, deterred, heard you, made you feel like, I don't know if I want to have a kid with this person. No, because I knew everything about the situation going into dating him. I literally knew he had two kids and an ex-wife in Australia before I knew his last name. He was very open and honest about everything from the beginning. Like literally the first day we're hanging out and he's telling me his whole backstory. And I'm like, bro, like, I don't even know your last name. I'm like, I'm probably not going to talk to you tomorrow.

Why are you telling me all of this? And I'm so thankful he did because from day one, there were no secrets. He was always so upfront about everything. And I really appreciated that about him. So not that we were even trying to get pregnant, but when we did, I just knew he would be such a good father. And he is such a good father. And he is trying to write all of his wrongs in his past.

make things right with his kids. So it was really hard. I don't know if it's because he's Australian, if we're using that excuse too much. When he tries to explain things, I don't understand. Like I say, I don't. I don't even understand when he's like,

no, and I got the ring. Like, I don't get it. What? Like, what are you saying? Like, sometimes I don't understand his explanation. So what's the quick explanation of he came to this country to try to make a better life, yes? Yes.

At that point, was he still married? No, they were already separated. I don't remember when the divorce was final exactly, but they had been not together for a while already. And at that point, was he good, on good terms with, like, her and seeing the kids? Or when he moved here, she was already pissed? No, the kids came over here and visited him. Like, when he was in college, they stayed out here with him.

took him to Disneyland and did all the things with them. So they were still on good terms when he was over here. I say. So what essentially happened to have that relationship stopped? I think she started dating someone new and he really stepped in as a stepfather for those kids. And Brock wasn't able to provide the life for them that this guy was. And, I mean, they're still together. They have a beautiful daughter together.

And he respected his position now in the kids' life. And she stopped sending photos. She kind of cut him off and was like, well, you're just over there. You're not coming back home. So you don't get to see the kids anymore. And he's like, well, if I don't get to see the kids, then I'm not paying child support. And was that right or mature or smart or responsible?

Absolutely not. He understands that now. And now, you know, for the last few years, he's been making those payments again, but it was stupid of him to think, oh, well, if I don't get access to the kids, then I don't have to pay child support. Like, that's not how it works in this country, in that country, in any country. So we had all got on a FaceTime together last year just to touch base with, you know, what else he needed to do to prove himself to her. and the main thing is to just get caught up on that back child support. So financially, he is going to be in a position to catch up on that in full and we'll go from there.

But I know that was one of her big things was just, you know, catch up on that and we'll go from there. And that is, so the slapping incident, he was saying that she brought that up kind of in a delayed manner, like that happened years ago. Years before. Yeah. I mean, they went on to get married and have two kids together. So this was something that got brought up later when she was upset that he was playing rugby in another country and was like, you're not going to get to see your kids. And then her dad was involved. It was like a whole thing. And that's when they threw a domestic violence order on him, which he never even got served because he wasn't even living in that state at the time. So he didn't even know. know that there was this domestic violence order put on him because he wasn't there to receive the whatever it's called when you get served. He was saying at the reunion.

He said something about not wanting to pay it through the government or something. Is that how you paid in Australia? I guess that she gets funded through the government and he has to pay the government back. So even if he missed three years of payments, she never missed that money. She still got it from government funding. So he was saying, well, I'm not like in a rush to just pay back the government. It's not like this money's going directly to her. She's already received the money.

But regardless, whether it's going to the government, it's going to her, whoever it's going to, it's a debt that needs to be paid and will be taken care of in full very soon as he's been doing well with his work. And he's able to finally just take care of that. Because I'm like, look, we're not getting married until that debt is taken care of. How did you feel when Andy said at the reunion, like, well, Sheena's doing well, she was like, I mean, trust me, I offered that. He's my partner in life, whether he's my husband now, this year, next year, it doesn't matter. He is my person. I will absolve all of his debts. I will pay for everything. If that's what I had to do, he won't allow that. It's not my debt to pay. It's his to pay. And he needs to pay for that with his own money that he's worked hard for and that he's earned. And the money that he has coming in between his live streaming app, his gyms, and everything else he's doing, he is able to finally take care of that. Take care of that. And hopefully that will then allow him to be in touch with his kids,

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Oh, Sheena, it has been a freaking season because on top of that, we have the engagement. Yeah. So first of all, we have that ginormous, ginormous, ginormous. What's it called the Mon? What's it called? Morganite. Morganite. Because there is Morganite and Masonite. There's a moistenite, which is like a lab grown diamond. Morganite is a semi-precious or precious stone. It's just like, you know, there's like emerald, sapphires. A Morganite is just a different type of stone. So it's not like a fake diamond. It's just, it's a So why, why did you not want a diamond? Did you always know this? Did you always like have in your mind that you wanted a different stone? Yeah, I love Morganites. I love the pink color. I just, I like to be different.

My first engagement ring was very basic with the halo, just like that basic diamond ring that everyone has. I didn't want something like that. I wanted something more unique. And we were talking to Kyle Chan. and he showed me this Morganite ring and I was like, oh my God, that is my dream ring. I love that. And then Brock was like, oh, Sheena wants an 8 karat morganite.

Let's go 9 or 10. And Kyle was like, well, I have a 12.74. And I was like, bro, it's a little too big for everyday wear, which is why I'm just wearing my band that Kyle made me. I know. This is my everyday wear. And then when we go out to dinners and do other things, I put that on. because also I don't like giving her a bath with it.

I don't like washing my hands when I'm out with it. I like it to stay as sparkly and perfect looking as possible. So any soap residue on any type of jewelry, it just, it takes that shine away. So you were involved in the ring picking process. Yeah. And this was before, like way before we got engaged, I was just talking to Kyle. And I was like, hey, if Brock ever comes to you and says he wants to get me a ring, let's have like let's be on the same page of what I like and so I sent him a picture actually of

Heather Young's engagement ring and obviously I mean that ring who knows how many hundreds of thousands of dollars that is you know the emerald cut diamond and he goes I can make this with a Morganite and I was like wait what and he shows me this photo and I was like that's it that's the ring I want I love pink it's one of my favorite colors so to have this ring with a little bit of a pink tint, a diamond band. I was like, that's it. So whenever the time comes, if Brock comes to you, just note that is my like dream ring. But that wasn't a ring he had made. It was just one that he could kind of make if he found that exact stone. And with the time period he had, he couldn't find that exact stone. So he's like, well, we'll do this one. So

he broke out that ring. And then Kyle told me after he goes, I know it's bigger than you want so, like, we can swap it out for something smaller. I'm like, I can't just, like, downgrade. No, I'm going to keep this. I'm like, can you just make me, like, this ring without the stone? Just the plain band. So I can always have something on. So I feel like, I feel naked without the ring.

Just so I feel like I always have something. If I'm out, I'm at the grocery store, I get hit on. I'm like, taken, which it's happened one time. And I was so glad I had a ring on just to prove it. But, yeah, so this is my every day. I can hit my hand on a door, soap, whatever with the baby poop on it. I don't care.

The big one is put away for special occasions. Okay. So in the scene, Kyle says this is worth, Sandoval says, what, how much is this worth? And he's like 25K. And I felt like that was very obvious that it's worth 25K. But, like, Brock isn't paying 25K

because A, friends and family discount, he's on the show, all the shit. But for some reason, everyone was sure that he was splitting 25K on the cards. Yeah, so thank you for saying it was obvious. I thought it was obvious. I also thought it was funny.

Like, whether Kyle said it was $1,000 or $100,000, Brock thought it was funny to be like, all right, put this much on this card, this much on this. Like, he did it to be funny. He didn't do it because he had to split that exact amount on three cards because I can't tell you what he paid because that's between him

Kyle, and I don't know that I even know exactly, but it was, it was a very, very good deal. Yeah. And when I had to get the ring appraised for insurance, we actually found out it's worth just over $36,000. Wow, that's wild. Yeah. Kyle thought it was 25. And then when we got it appraised, he was like, oh, my God, it's actually more.

But, you know, when you're a jeweler, you get wholesale prices. Yeah. So Kyle got it for a crazy steal. and then gave it to Brock for the same, if not a little more. Did he physically split it, though, for real? Or was it just he said it? Or did he split it on the cards? Honestly, I think he put like $5 on each card.

And then he gave Kyle Cash. What? Oh, it was $1 on each card. Stop. Yeah. Oh, because they wanted to see the cards like being ran. So he's like, he gave him three cards just to be funny. because he thought that was funny to split it for $1

on each card. And then he gave him cash for the ring. So like you didn't have to pay the processing fee. And he thought it would be funny, but it legit backfired times. Totally. It totally backfired. I'm like, you guys, he didn't.

And people are like, oh, no, I did the math. He put $10,000 on the credit cards. I'm like, he put $3. Oh, my God. I know. I got so many crazy messages. Like he put $2,500 on this one. And then he put that.

So it must have been $7,000. I'm like, oh, my God. I literally don't know. Yeah. No. So apparently it was like $3 and then he gave him cash. So and then the other thing people were upset about. I was like, how would you go spend all this money on the ring were the child support, you know, the story that we know about that wasn't being paid? And how did he defend himself with that? I forget. I don't think he did because unless he said, well, I only paid this small amount. Yeah. You know, but that it's no one's business what he paid. We're not trying to put. But people need to. really understand. Kyle Chan has been on the show for as long as it's run, ran, whatever. He's a friend of like Lisa's, right? Yeah. He's a friend of all of ours. Him and his mom are like best friends. Yeah. So like he gets, you know, he gets his name in the show, also friends and family. So when he said 25K wasn't actually 25K and that is just something people should know. Did you care at all

that people would be like, but it's not a diamond or like you didn't give a shit? I don't of a shit because it's what I wanted. If I wanted a diamond and I said I wanted a diamond and then he got me in Morgan, I'd be like, the fuck I wanted a diamond. Yeah. I genuinely didn't want a diamond. I wanted diamonds on the band, which he listened to. But I already had a diamond engagement ring.

I wanted nothing similar to my first ring, like down to the stone. I would have been happy if it was an emerald. That's my birth stone. I just didn't want a diamond. So when Kyle found this like rare light pink Morgan. night that has this fire in it, it was just the perfect stone, just a little bigger. You know what's better than an ad break? A beach break. I could so use one right now. I'm sure we all could. When I want to book a beach vacay, I use cheapcaribbean.com. I'm all about that

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him, like he has a fractions, like a very small piece in my heart. You know what I mean? I know. Same. He saw such good sides of him on the show that even though he did the fucked up shit that he did, it was like from a place of, you know, like hurt and addiction and whatever else he was going through. And now that I look back and I see that, you know, I mean addiction, it is a disease. And I didn't see it at the time. I said so many ignorant things. Like, why do you have to drink to get drunk?

Why can't you just have one glass of wine with me? Like, I didn't understand how serious it was, you know, to be an alcoholic, to have an addiction problem. Like, I didn't understand that. And it's not his fault. Do you know how he's doing today? He's good. We're still, we're lightly in touch, not as much anymore. But if I texted him right now, he would respond and vice versa.

We wish each other happy birthdays. Congratulations when it's due. Merry Christmas. So are you still Shay officially? Legally, yes. Until Brock and I get. married, then I will change it to Davies. But I really want it to be Honey Davies. But his last name isn't legally Honey Davies. That's just his mom's maiden name. So we need to legally change his name to

Honey Davies. Summer already has Honey Davies. And then I'll change mine to Honey Davies. Oh, because you want to be just like Summer. Yeah. That makes sense. That makes sense. Yeah. It's hard. I like Noah is Weiss and I'm still Hirsch. And whenever I go to doctor's appointments or anything official. It's like, are you what and I'm not? And that's the only reason I would want to change is to be like him. But it's annoying. It's an annoying process here.

It's like you got to change everything, everything. By the way, there's this company called Hitch Stitch. If you guys want to check it out on YouTube, they do it like for you. So just you know. Oh, interesting. Yeah, it's like to get a new passport, social security card. Like the driver's license is the least of my worries. But just even, I don't even.

know how it works with like my SEP IRA and my retirement accounts and like all of these things that are under Shay. It's just I don't know. So I mean, I'm fine. Now you're reminding me of that pre-up. Let's talk. Yeah. I was very proud of you. First of all, I, you know, I'm 33 now. I think when I got married, obviously I didn't have like a fucking dollar. So obviously we don't have one. But if you would have asked me, I would have judged anyone who got one. And I would have been like, you're not really in love. you know. That was how I felt the first time. But now I'm like,

it's such a smart thing to do, in my opinion. No, I totally talk shit on Katie and Tom getting one. I was like, wow, you guys need a pre-nup, but we didn't. And then, you know, karma, that bit me in the ass. So I was like, okay, now I get it. But at the time, when I got married, I mean, I barely was starting to make money that year and it wasn't enough to protect now you know so many years later i own a home i have a very good retirement account set up like i have just so many investments in things to actually protect that

i don't think brock and i will ever not be together but you just never know and he wasn't offended by it whatsoever which that would have been a red flag for me if i said i wanted a pre-naut and he was like, uh, I don't know about that. I would have been like, okay, but why? Yeah. But right away, he was like, okay, do what you got to do. Like, I'll sign whatever. Like, I don't care.

He's like, I don't want anything from you other than you. So that was just, I mean, the best reaction possible when you present someone with me. So there was no weirdness? Like, it has to be like a little weird, no? No, like, we actually had fun with it. And here's the thing. I wish you got to see more of that scene because our notary. His name was James.

I highly recommend him if you're in the L.A. area and you need a good notary. This man brought us to tears. He had this, like, amazing speech. And he just said that in that hour, I think hour and a half maybe that he was with us, he was like, I can feel how much you two love each other. He's like, and you have a platform. He's like, put these cameras aside, whatever. He goes, you both have a platform to show the world what,

real love is. He's like in the fact that you're laughing through this as you're signing the pages, he's like, I think he said, I may be giving us too much credit, but I think he said he had like never had a couple like us do a pre-nut before. Like they were shocked at how fun we made such a serious process. Yeah. And I mean, no, it does give you security and you kind of what can walk into this without fear. Yeah. I need to ask you about. obviously the situation at Raquel and James's engagement weekend. We need to understand as the audience, why. We just need to understand why because there are a lot of,

there are a lot of like fourth wall breaking situations where you can say, is that the milk? Oh, that's the good. She's transferring the goods where I'm like, okay, they needed to fit it in, you know, all the assumptions. Like they wanted to fit it into this season, which people don't get, right? it's like they have days of filming okay if sheena wanted her engagement to be on the show which like

do you feel i know we've been thinking this for seasons but do you feel wronged in a way it's like why do you have to fight so hard to get that i mean this is a big deal you're getting engaged you're an ogy did you feel like you had to fucking box your way to get your engagement before it this season ends. I just, I know, and Brock has explained this on my podcast. I knew that he really just wanted to prove to the world that I have a man who loves me because of my past on the show, literally having people say to my face, I don't love you. He just wanted to show the world, you know what? Like, Sheena has a man who loves her. He wanted to give me everything he, he possibly could in the short, I think it was like 11 weeks that we filmed.

Like there wasn't that much time with so many people and so much story to tell individually. So we never know if the show is coming back for another season. We can always hope, but we never know. So he was like, I need to get everything in in these 11 weeks or 15 weeks. I don't even remember how long we filmed for, but it wasn't that long, less than three months. And he wanted to just tell our entire love story to the world. And when the first plan didn't work out, then it was like, okay,

we have even less time to make this happen. What was the first plan supposed to be? The movie premiere. Was that RAND's movie premiere? It was the MGK one? It was his fake screening. So we had the movie premiere that was the week after we wrapped filming

was the real premiere. So the screening, I was like, why do we have to go to two? things for Randall. He has a movie premiere that we're already going to on Monday. Why do we also have to go to a screening? But the screening was just a cover up for the proposal shock on wedding. And did that not happen because of like cost situations? Because of cost, because of permits. Like the permit for this place was going to be like $20,000 because it wasn't permitted for like

a movie or I don't know if it was something about the food and they had to staff it, but they were only permitted for this, whatever it was. It was a permitting issue. It didn't work out. The first place fell through. The second place then, like, didn't work out. And did you know during this time, are you whispering on the sidelines like, do it here? Or like, do you not know what's going on?

No, the only thing I accidentally saw something on his phone. He was like showing me something and then it went back to a text and it was like a text with like production or Randall or someone. and I saw something about like a rooftop and it was somewhere like in WeHo and I was like if you're trying to like plan something there what was it? Oh, EPLP. I was like I've like gone to that place like as a club like

I don't want to get like just if you're trying to plan something like as a surprise there for me like don't. But so then it was like I kind of had an idea something was happening because I saw this text. But then that like wasn't happening. It was this other place and then it was a permit. and then they couldn't staff it. And then with COVID,

that was just like a whole other issue. Because I think the staffing issue was because of COVID. So, okay, from movie, fake premieres and screenings to this and that, it ended up being in your balcony, by yourselves,

no one there. Right. Did you like that more? Do you think than you would have liked, like a public thing with friends? I, yes. Because in hindsight, it was like when he told me this elaborate plan, I was in tears.

I was like, oh, that would have been so good. That would have been so perfect to have everyone there. But I wasn't disappointed. And I think that's where he felt like now you only get this. And now you're disappointed because I'm like, no, at the end of the day, all I want is a moment with you. And we had an even longer moment in the apartment before we went outside where he got me flowers. he had this like whole printed out note with the edges burned like a message in the bottle of our love story he fate got down on one knee and picked up the cat bowl and like tricked me because I thought

he was going to propose in the apartment but then he didn't he just like picked up the cat bowl and it was so cute and it was so perfect that then when I went outside and saw the flower petals the balloons it was absolutely perfect when he told me about the original plan it was kind of heartbreaking because he had put so much thought into this and I'm a very visual person when he explained it to me. I'm like I can picture this entire thing that would have been so good

but then trying to like salvage it and be like well we can still make it good. It was just I appreciated the effort and I know Brock when he gets an idea he runs with it and that's how I kind of knew that I needed to get a dress

because when we had talked earlier I don't even think we were filming yet, just about when we get engaged one day, he's like, what if we just got married the same day and turned it into a shotgun wedding? We joked about doing a drive-through wedding in Vegas one time when we were out there. We talked about all of these ideas, but I was like, don't you dare. Like, I don't like being surprised. I'm hard to surprise. I'm very fucking nosy. So I was like, please, please don't try to do that. And he's like, well, why not? Why not? I'm like, dude, like, don't. You're getting under my skin right now. Like, just don't ever do

that. He's like, why? Why? And I'm like, because I would need glam. I would want my mom. I would want my sister. I would want, and I'd start, I name like 20 things that I would need. So it seems completely unrealistic. I'm like, he's never going to be able to pull this off. I'm like, and lastly, I would need a dress. I'm like, I don't even know what size I am right now. I'm not comfortable in clothes. Like, please don't try to do that. And he's like, well, what if, you know, some of your dresses you got for like interview looks, watch what happens live or the reunion just happened to be white? wait, what if you got something that you're going to need already? So I was like, all right, I see where you're going with this.

I'm just going to get a dress just in case. So I call my friends over at CLD. They're this like PR agency that reps every amazing brand. I was like, I need some white or cream color dress options. If you can pull some stuff for me. House of CB and Nookie totally came through with the two best dresses. And that's what I ended up wearing. in the photo that we posted for our engagement announcement because I'm sorry I wasn't going to post

in a suit. Even though I got engaged in the suit, I was like, no, we're going to class this up for the photo. We set up the ring light. We put our camera on a timer. Summer was asleep. We took our photos. And so I had the dress for that at least because I didn't need it for anything else. And then. But you would have been down to do a shit. It sounds like you were already kind of like down with the plan to do a shotgun wedding. If I had glam the dress and every family and friend there who really genuinely mattered, I was down.

The only thing I wasn't still down about, but that would have also been on him is that his family couldn't have been there. And that is equally as important to me as my family being there is for his to be there. But we also understood with COVID with traveling restrictions in quarantine, if we want to get married, you know,

last year this year, then we would have to maybe adjust our plan. So hindsight, super glad that it didn't work out. In the moment, it was kind of heartbreaking. But I'm like, you know what? I'm so glad because the day we get married, his family deserves to be there in person. Wait, so did you think, because it looked like on the show, like when you heard about the plan to actually get married at Raquel and James's weekend, you were like, no, right? Yeah. You said hell no, you said hell no right away. Yeah. And then he convinced me that Tom and Ariana thought this was a really good idea.

And if it could be secret and no one would find out. And I was like, okay, if my parents can still be there, then your mom has to join in on Zoom. And then I'm just thinking like, if this is what everyone else wants, everyone else wants this, I will do it because I'm a people pleaser. Even if it's not what I really want, like whatever. It's my second time around. I already had my dream wedding.

I had everything I wanted down to, you know, the type of runners on the table. Down to the crop top. I had that already. So I'm like, if this is really what you want to do, I will do it because I know I want to marry you. So if this is how you want to do it and everyone thinks this is a great idea, I'll do it. But I thought it was going to be private somewhere in Santa Barbara, separate from anything filming anyone else would be around like any of that wise. So when we found out, you know, again, permits, COVID,

like filming the season was not easy. There were a lot of those type of issues that we had. Oh, I thought he wanted to do it on the property. No, we didn't want that. But that's where we were cleared to film. I see. So we're like, no, we're not doing it here. were down to do it in the same city

on a different vineyard on the same weekend secretly privately. But no, we're not going to go out in the vineyard and have James and Raquel come out on their terrace and be like, oh, there's a wedding happening. That looks like Sheena and Brock. Like, that was where we pulled the plug. I was like, oh. The last thing I wanted to ask you was, even though you just said it, you already had your dream wedding. So what do you think your your second wedding is going to look like.

So that was my first dream wedding, but now with Brock, like, I have different dreams. So. Oh, so you're saying I'm not toning it down. No, we're going to, it was either we're going to elope or we're going to go all out, but like on a smaller scale. Like I'm not going to have 300 people at my second wedding. You know, I had that at my first wedding. We're not going to do that.

but I did always envision getting married outdoors. I did that the first time, but I've always envisioned something on a beach with the ocean in the background. That just wasn't, I don't know. I don't know why we didn't do that for the first one. I think what it was was the place that we found. It was called the Hummingbird Nest Ranch.

And hummingbirds are so special and sentimental to me. I literally have a tattoo of one. I think I got that on the second episode ever. They remind me of family. members who have passed away. So that just felt right in the moment. But I've always pictured a beach wedding. So that's- And also, Brock is from Australia. It's very beachy. Yeah. So that is the new dream. That's what we're looking at. It was going to be Bali, but with quarantine and all of that, you can't fly into a certain part of Bali. You have to fly into Jakarta. Like, it just, all of it

wasn't going to work out with Bali. So we hired a wedding planner. We just met with her last week. She is sending us other locations and other countries. And we're going to look into getting married sometime, I think between August and November. It'll just depend on weather. We were saying November for sure in Bali. But then if we do November in a different country, it might be hurricane season. If we do August, it might be that. So we're going to not really. say like it has to be this date. We're going to give a wide range of between August and November. If it's September, October, if it's whatever, then we'll see what dates are available at what

places because obviously people from 2020s have been rescheduling their wedding. So there are, we wanted to do 1111 and that was going to be our plan in Bali. And then we're like, and it was available, but we're like, that's not going to be available anywhere else you know like that's such a popular day yeah and for so many people who have rescheduled their weddings you know 11 1122 guarantee that's probably taken everywhere we want to get married so I have to give up on the numerology dream of it yeah but does that mean it's for sure not going to be filmed then because usually you guys don't film during those months well I said August to November. So we're open to a wide range of dates pending location and next season. So

I know. Does it feel like all the Bravo shows or every reality just like for so we get it. Does every reality show live in this kind of limbo between seasons or is it something specific to Vanderpum? Honestly, I don't know. Because I know like Shaw's, they film like different of year. And I was asking them about that recently. I'm like, oh, are you guys picked up? Like, when do you start again? And theirs is different because I think they have such a smaller cast that they kind of just film whenever they need to for when they need to be on air with us. They always liked us to film in the summer because they liked us in bikinis. But now it's like, we don't want to be in bikinis. I mean, I think it was a really good season. I thought it was

great television. Listen, even James. Say what everyone. wants to say, I mean, he's entertaining as fuck. He is. He's entertaining as fine. I mean, it's been over an hour. I could talk to you about so many other things. But, Sheena, you're amazing. Let's continue the conversation soon on Shanagan.

Yay. Oh, my God. We need to, do you remember when I came to your show in L.A., like years ago? Yeah. Years ago. Oh, such different times. That was legit after you just had your Sheena sledding it up in Vegas. yes with like magic mics what a different fucking time anyway you guys and now I have my thunder

from down under and now you're like pumping during the fucking podcast anyway sheena thank you so much thank you thoughts and prayers that we get another season and good for you for fucking keeping positive with everything thank you so much listen amazing yes bye babe bye episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review. If you tell me you did, I'll give you a big virtual smoocharoo.

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