Not Skinny But Not Fat - Selling on Sunset w/ Maya Vander

Episode Date: August 11, 2020

The wait is over!!!! Our favorite Netflix Show "Selling Sunset" is back with Season 3!!! Our fave Israeli agent, Maya Vander, tells us all about working at the Oppenheim group, how the show started, how she got into real estate, and how the hell does she stay out of the drama??? Maya tells us who she's closest with on the show, if Mary is really the "office's favorite," her move to Miami, and some season 3 teasers.  Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. I have Maya Vander from Selling Sunset, my new favorite show on Netflix. Maya! Hello, hello, for Miami. From Miami, but originally from Israel and I was just telling Maya, I'm Israeli too. And we wanted to do the podcast in Hebrew and have subtitles, but it's not going to work.

It doesn't sound as good as English. No, listen, from the first episode of Selling Sunset, I have to go back to my story arc. but I'm such an idiot because I heard your accent and even though I'm Israeli, I should know it's Israeli. The first second I was like, hmm, she's foreign. And then I was like, oh, she must be Israeli. And I love your accent so much. You know what? I lived in the U.S. about 17 years now, but I came when I was 21. So by the way, you do the math. I'm 38. But anyways, I came when I was 21. So unfortunately, I missed school or, you know, any basic like languages. So my accent is not going anywhere anytime soon but i love it does it bother you i remember when my mom moved here she

wanted to take like accent reduction classes and i was like i took accent reduction class no the only thing that talked to me was not to say dollar you say dollar more with the a but that's it but you know then i gave up because it's it's look i'm not you know i'm not an actress but so i mean it is it is who i am like it is my accent and uh hopefully people can understand me and if If they don't, then too bad. First of all, I'm sure people understand you. And people love your, like when you have a saying that you want to translate. And I know what you're, you want, you're trying to say because I'm Israeli.

And then you, which I do all the time because there's so many words in Hebrew, like, that they don't have in English or sayings. I say shit all the time. And you do too, but yours is on TV. So people, I'm sure you have been getting a lot of positive comments. but I've posted a lot about the show and I'm always like, I love Maya and her sayings and people always, always agree.

It really seems like you're a fan favorite. Did you feel that? I mean, every fan has his favorite. I mean, generally I get good feedbacks, but of course I get mean people as well. Look, I'm the most boring one. I always say that, you know, I get the least scene because I'm like the mom and all that.

It's not exciting. But at the same time, I'm glad that I'm not. to the drama because I don't want to have like people saying bad stuff about me, you know. Well, the thing is like every article I've seen about you and every like, you know, where you were written about it's always like, Maya, no nonsense. Like, you know, like no bullshit, which is so Israeli, right? Like you don't fuck with Israelis and you don't.

So I don't think you're boring at all and no one thinks you're boring. But I think that you've managed to not get yourself into the drama. and even though you can be like, oh, what's going on? It's not in a like malicious, gossipy, gross way. Like you get away with it. You know what I mean? I totally.

You know, the girls are always laughing the show. They're like, well, because of your accent, you get away with that. But, you know,

genuinely, I will say, like, hey, how is it going? What's going on? But it's not about like, ooh,

like what did you, you know, I'm not a ghosty person. I can care less. So if I do ask questions, it's just because I really care. And yeah, I mean,

thankfully I managed to stay away from the drama but you know I get along with all of them so and you got cats for the show I mean I just found out and and I'm sure if people sometimes you watch reality TV and you just accept it the way it is you're like that's the openheim group they have these five girls or whatever yeah but you actually have like so many more employees that just aren't on the show not as many though used to be well we had like three girls on the show on the company that left in the meantime so what do we have know we have Graham is a guy, we have Peter is a guy, Angelica and Jamie, which there are Jason's assistant. And one more agent who is actually Nicole, who is friends with Mary, which she actually was

in the last season, but kind of like as a guest guest. Yeah. And then I just found out that she actually dated Jason before Mary dated Jason. Yeah, I know. It's, yeah, good, good, how do you know that? Detective work? Yeah, how did you find out about that? No, I had, Mary on the podcast. Oh, okay. I'm acting like I found out. I'm like, wow. Like, that's some homework right there.

No, so Jason dated Mary and Nicole, but that's it. Like, none of us dated Jason because maybe it's someone's type for some girls, but not for the rest of us. Oh, my God. Listen, you put in the Oppenheim, when I, you know, did some Google research, one of the questions that Google has popped up is how tall are the Oppenheim twins? And I'm like, oh, that's so annoying that for them. probably that that's such a, you know,

that it's like one of the first things that comes up when you... Oh, that sucks for them. Yeah. And you guys and you girls are always in freaking heels. That's like the thing about the show. I'm sure you get this a lot that people watch the show now and they're like, oh,

I could have done that and sold, you know, million dollar homes and or it looks so easy or, you know, whatever. And it's not easy, right? It's such a pain in the ass. And you know what? The thing is you don't just like, wear a cute dress and wear heels and you just sell a house.

I mean, first of all, I'm doing most of my showings in tennis shoes sometimes, you know, because by the way, one scene in the show, you see me sitting in the office and I don't know if the editor, edited, edited up or they purposely kept me, they show, they show, they're showing me wearing a show dress. And if you really pay attention, you see me wearing a A6 running shoes. Wait, is that a no-no? Like, is that, like, not cool to wear, like, sneakers? I would maybe do a better sneakers, but my A6 was purposely for a running, you know, thing,

but I was like, I didn't sort of going to feel my legs. I'm like, I'm sorry. But anyways, look, I mean, it's not as easy. Real estate can be very, very difficult and very stressful. And I do real estate for seven years now. And I maybe had two easy clients in the whole seven years. The rest of them are very challenging. I mean, let's talk about the first scene you had, which I feel like almost made me want to turn off the show.

because I was so disgusted by that dude. Yeah, Tal, you know, we had a great time. And he was Israeli, right? He was. And I actually know a bunch of mutual friends. But you know what? We had a good time. And look, editing can make it look worse than what it is.

Right, right. He was flirting, but it was more than that. But, you know, they obviously take the flirtiest moment and make it like in this 10 minutes scene. Oh, my God. It felt longer even. It was like, it wouldn't stop. And if people don't remember, it was like the first episode of season one.

and Maya was showed a client a house and then he was like, let's get dinner and you were like lunch and he was like drinks and you were like just food and kept on trying to make it more of a date intimate thing where you were like, oh, I don't want to give up this client or potential, you know, buyer or whatever, but I don't want like, and you're married and you told him and he was like, well, he's in Miami. It was, it was, I was cringing a lot because I was like, you're all beautiful women in the cast, which I'm sure

that's part of the reason why they did a show about Oppenheim group. That probably, I mean, okay, that was exaggerated, edited.

Let's say he's not a total weirdo. But that happens a lot. I mean, you're showing houses to a lot of bachelors. You guys don't show homes as much to like families,

right? That's what it seems like. Hollywood hills attract generally without stereotype in the location. It does attract more the single crew. maybe a young couple.

That's the demographic just, you know, in general. So unfortunately, in real estate it happens and it happens not just to me to any girl, I think, in the industry who looks decent, you know, guys will be guys. And you don't want to like, you know, narrow down the clients because you always think, oh, maybe, you know, he's going to buy. And then it's a great commission. But also you have to put up with the fact that are they actually serious? Are they not?

You know, you want to give everybody the benefit of the doubt. But unfortunately, yeah, if I have to waste my time and have a drink with the person, You know, back then I used to do it. Now I'm married. I have kids. I don't have time to waste anymore. So enough is enough. You're like, email me.

Thank you. Exactly. Email me with proof of funds and then we can talk. No, so that's another thing about you is like you do come off as like the most like serious in terms of like your work. Like like I don't want to use every headline about you. But it does feel like no nonsense, no bullshit. Like you're there to like do the job. And I feel like you get the respect also from your your bosses like Jason and whatever also from the rest of the girls who don't drag you in and aren't like so somehow I mean you're in the best position to be in because you're on the show, which I'm sure has its perks, but you don't get dirty.

Yeah. You know, look, I mean, I think if I would want to get dirty, maybe I would get other stuff out of it from the show. Maybe more publicity recognition. But at the end of the day, you know, I built my career for the last seven. is doing real estate. Now, I joined the show because I figured it's going to probably be a great marketing for all of us. But the show, you know, it's not just real estate like million dollar listing. It's more like the hill. Right. It's right. So you get, you get and you know, the other stuff, I think more than real estate. But you know what? I'm already in it. I might as well write it. Would you that's what that's the thing like my my sister for instance watches million dollar listing and she wasn't watching selling sunset and when she tried to get me to watch million dollar listing i couldn't like because i don't care that much about houses and with them it's like

you know those brothers like no offense i love bravo i'm like a bravo person but it's like that's not what i'm looking for i need the like showy some girl dramas and this and that and of course it's nice to see a beautiful home and like rich people and whatever but you're right selling sunset is that like real estate but i mean adam de villo who did the hill and Laguna Beach and whatever. Would you see yourself more on like a million dollar listing where it was like more businessy? You know, I would actually probably prefer that

because that's what I've been doing for seven years. And, you know, I think real estate is where the big money is. I mean, being on a show, obviously it could be lucrative in a different way. But also, I don't want my career to be destroyed, you know, throwing a glass of wine on someone and yelling at someone. So I have to be very careful.

So, yeah, I'm doing the show and I love it. But I have to also be careful and, you know, like I can be funny and all that, but I cannot be too crazy because otherwise my real estate career might be in jeopardy. So you're not thinking of like, I mean, I'm sure you get offers to do things on Instagram and make a little bit of side money from that. Which I do, which I do. Yeah. Well, yeah, I'm saying that's, that's, but I'm saying you're not, your goal isn't to be like selling

fab, fit, fun, or fittee, like you, you want to keep doing what you're doing. I think the endorsements on IG and obviously the commission on social media is great and you can utilize it for other stuff. Maybe branding yourself and approach it in a different way. But yes, I can tell you 100% my goal is to just get more serious clients and close deals and make money because, you know, at the end of the day, when you sell a $5, $6,000 house, it's a nice, it's a nice commission right there. And I love it. You know, I, I am truly passionate about it. I've been doing it for a while. So, so. So you're in the U.S. for 20, how many years?

17, 17, 17. So you came what, right after the Army? I wasn't in the military, but it's okay. No one care. Here, no one cares. Yeah, technically, yeah, basically. I used to model when I was 20, 21, and then I moved here to L.A. And I was, you know, selling clothes. in retail, in a store. I was just like, you know, making $10 an hour and worked on Melrose Avenue. You just had the dream of moving to the U.S. or were you wanting to model? No, unfortunately, I was in a relationship back then.

And the guy was in L.A. So I follow love and then love basically explode on my face, but I decided to stay and make a life on my own. Oh, my God. Wait, so you met it and you moved within Israeli from Israel, or you moved, where did you meet him? In Israel, but he was actually from L.A. He was American.

Oh, that's crazy. So I basically left everything. In Israel? In Israel. That's a tough one then. I think it's a tough one. Yeah, but we're back in New York now. But I was there for five.

I love Israel. You don't love Israel? No, no, I do. I think it's a great country. I'm just not talking about, are you still with a guy? Yeah, we're married. We're having a baby. Oh, so it's your husband.

Okay, okay, good. Yeah. Because you know how Israeli can be tough sometimes and all that. Israelis can be tough, but I'll tell you the truth. I tell a lot of my single friends, like, who find it so hard in New York, like, listen, I'll ship you to Israel because guys are, you said they're tough and they're aggressive, but at least they'll hit on you and talk to you. They're more mature, I think.

They're more mature. And they're right. American guys are like so. I was, I never, I don't know, it's hard. Is your husband Israeli or American? No, he's actually American. No way. Yeah, yeah, he's American.

And he's adorable. He's so sweet. And, you know, he's not on the show because he works in finance. His job is very respectable. So it's respectable, I guess. That's the right word. Yeah. So, you know, being in reality TV, it's not going to do good for his career.

And clearly, I'm not making millions from selling Sunset. So I might as well. It's not worth it. It's not worth it now. Keep him in finance. Exactly. But he was in Miami. and you were in L.A., is that still the case?

Or are you in Miami more full-time? No, so, yeah, what happened was we shot the demo for the show, you know, in L.A. We both live in L.A., me and my husband. Then he got a job in Miami. We relocated to Miami, and then the show got picked up. So I had to do the whole back-and-forth thing, like literally a few months after we moved. Last season, because we filmed basically more episodes, they technically rented a place in L.A. So we did the back-and-forth, too.

So he flew every weekend. I flew every other weekend. Wait, and isn't it? How long of a flight is it? Yeah, it's five hours. I was so, I was so used to flying. I mean, I was literally like, Oh, my God.

The airport was my best friend. And so did he. So basically, if you, if the show wasn't happening, you would have moved to Miami and done real estate there. Yeah. I mean, you know, like I did, I had a couple of transactions in L.A. So if the client is sales, for instance, now I'm in Miami. I have a potential client.

They want to buy in LA. If I know that he's serious and he's, you know, ready, willing and able to buy, then I'll fly. I'll fly for two days. Look at houses for him. If we need to put something under contract and do inspection, maybe I'll fly again for a day. It's not a problem, but yes, I'm licensed in Florida right now and I'm going to try to focus, you know, on Florida as well.

But are you still going back and forth? So I haven't been, no, I haven't been gone because we stopped. Oh, because of COVID, yeah. I want to stay away from an airplane as much as I can. And I also had my baby. I just got my baby. I delivered my second baby last month. So last month?

Yeah. Like actually, she turned five weeks. Yeah. Oh, my God. Congratulations. Thank you. Second one. So.

How far apart were they? Because it was a quick, it was a quick one. It was a very quick one. You know, I get shit done, as I say. It was planned. It was planned. Because I didn't know how long it's going to take me to get pregnant second time. They are 13 months apart.

So one month, one eight and one month, basically. And that's like allowed, right? Like the minute you get your mental cycle again, like technically you can get pregnant. Basically, yeah. So it took me about, well, until it got regulated and what was say like three and a half, four months. So then I. Wait. If they're 13 months apart and you're pregnant for nine months, then that's like four months after you gave birth, you got pregnant?

Four and a half months. oh my god can you imagine you know it's so crazy right now no right i know because you're eight months pregnant so you probably just want to have the baby already huh when you reach eight months you're like i'm done i mean i i try to really be grateful because i'm like an anxious worrying person so i always thought pregnancy would be the most awful thing that ever happened to me and then i was like oh this isn't so bad and i wasn't really showing until six months yeah and i wasn't really having any pain until like seven months. So I'm like, it's not that.

It hasn't been like knock on wood. Like I didn't have the morning sickness. Yeah. Same. See the knock on wood and everything. Does that something you still do? Or have you lost all your? No, I knock on wood all the time.

I do. I do. I do. People don't get it. I knock on wood. Yes. You know, I don't want to jinx things. I know.

So, yeah, I have to explain all the time to, you probably do too, to people who don't. get it. I was going to therapy. And in therapy, I had to teach my therapist like Hebrew because I was like, listen, I'm going to say tufu chamsa a lot. This is what it means. I'm going to knock on wood. Like, I'm going to. Yeah. You have to get it because it's, it's part of the culture that doesn't that doesn't leave you. Even like, look at you. You're here for 17 years. Yeah. It doesn't live. I'm still. I'm still, Jenny from the black. Do you go back to Israel and visit? Yeah. So, Usually I go twice a year, but I gave birth to my son last year, so obviously I didn't want to travel. And then this year, I gave birth to my girl, and now we're in COVID.

So, and honestly, traveling, let's say, it's like 12 hours for Miami to Israel with two kids. I don't know if I'm going to do that. So anyway, my dad came to visit me. My mom came to visit me. My brother came to visit me. I'm just, I just miss my nephews and my nieces. Hopefully next year. Where are you from in Israel?

I grew up in a small town. It's called Elat. It's called Elada. Yeah, Elat is... For those who don't know. Elat is like the... Like Vegas, I guess, but less pretty. I'm going to say Miami, but not as pretty.

Not as pretty, but you know, you have the nice red mountains. But A lot, like, A lot is a very southern part of it. The most... Yeah, the most southern. Then you're in Egypt. That's so funny. You grew up there. A lot gets hot as fuck.

It's a desert. And there are people that live there, but it's one of those places that if you're not from there, you know it because you go on vacation there because it's hot all the time. Yeah, it's like Vegas. You know, it's a certain of them I go to Vegas or let's say Arizona, like Phoenix. I smell it. It reminds me of home. I love it. Because Miami is humid and I can deal with that.

But I love to keep my hair straight. And that's that's a lot. So how are you liking Miami as opposed to L.A.? You know, I really like Miami. People think it's cheesy and yes, it is at times. but you know it depends what you make out of it i like it i love the ocean here look right now it's hot and steamy but it's not the end of the world i mean we live in a nice place there are great nightlife here great restaurants granted none of us doing any of that right now yeah i was

gonna ask because like where are you going to oh my gosh no no no but you know actually i stopped going to clubs a while ago but no yeah but you have nice like nice like bars lounges uh but now you know, who knows with COVID and obviously I have like two kids now. So I think TV and wine at home. That's my new lifestyle. That's your new. That's all of ours. But L.A. and especially the industry that selling sunset is in, which is very rich people of a certain type, like you're Israeli, but also like your personality you seem down to earth. How do you like deal with those types of people all day? Did you get like so used to it? or maybe that's why you like Miami better,

even though Miami is also like a fan. No, it's the same. Yeah, they're all shallow. No, you know what it is. It's like, look, it's about show off, right? So you get used to it. Like you see the nice cars. Everybody has to have a whatever Louis Gucci bag

and show up and they have so much money. And we all want nice stuff. Look, if I sell a house and I make a big commission, then yeah, maybe I'll buy me something nice. But most of the time I usually just save. because I'm not going to run right away to the mall and buy me Chanel first. But it's nice to have nice things

because we work out for them but I don't think it's that important. I don't know, maybe because I grew up in Israel in a different reality. Unfortunately, you know, a war reality and terrorism and all that stuff, then I put things more in perspective. I just value different things than a nice car

and a nice bag and, you know, obviously I have a nice car I'm grabbing a decent car because of real estate, but if it would be up to me, I would probably have, like, you know, a more simple one. I mean, I wanted, I mean, yeah. I was looking when I, because obviously when you're pregnant, you start looking at strollers that moms have. And like, so I remember there was a scene where you were taking, uh, your newly born, Aden up the stairs to some open house. And I literally paused and zoomed up a baby. Yeah, I saw. So I'm going to do the fucking up a baby i thought great it's great cool but like why is it it's so in new york i don't know

how it you probably did wanted to do let me guess you probably wanted to do the um not the nuna the mimo no i did no i wanted to do the nuna i wanted to do the nuna because it looked pretty but it's the new the nuna is the one with like the who is the nuna how you how does it look the nuna the nuna that i was looking at it had it's like black and it has like the white No, it has like brown leather, like handlebars and... I think my friend has that one. Let me say, I'm Google, I'm curious. But the app of baby is amazing.

Yeah, I saw you had it and I was like, okay, Maya has it too. I guess, you know, this is the fucking way I need to go. No, yeah. Okay, see. Yeah, so my friend has that one. Yeah. And a lot of celebs have it. I almost, I get so influenced and like when I was debating, I didn't even know

celebs have it, but then, uh, like my sister looked it up and she was like, oh my God, the Kardashians. I was going to say, I was going to say, okay, what's the name? Courtney, I think had it or something. Oh, my God. And I love Courtney. So I was almost sold on it because of that. And then I was like, Amanda, listen, sometimes you've got to do what everyone does because

there's a reason everyone's doing. And you know, all my friends have the app. The app, you know, because you have the straw. Then you have the bassinet, which you can put the baby there in the first couple of months. Then you have the car seat. If you buy the whole package, then if you want to go for, a second baby you can add a but look it's a heavy steady stroller

I mean but let me tell you needed the two you needed the two because you had the both they're both small so now I use it for the with the two so it's perfect and did you did you have a girl because you had a boy and then a girl that's so perfect I know I know

did it happen by yeah yeah totally by mistake look I got lucky I mean you know like I had with selling sensitive whoever watched a show and you I had two miscarriages before my first Right. You discussed that. Yeah. But then I got pregnant with my first son. And then that's why I wanted to try it fast because

I didn't know how long it's going to take me. If I'm God forbid, going to have another miscarriage. You just never know. And I'm 38. So it's not like I have the whole time in the world, you know, like, you know. But I got lucky. And look, whatever if I, if it was, if it would be a boy, great too. As long as they're healthy. Obviously, it's the most important thing. Right. Yeah, I'm not going to lie. I'm happy. I love the names. Aidan and L. I saw you. you name them right yeah those are really great names aiden because i love sex in the city so much and i think and aden was such a cute guy yeah he's the best and ell i just think it's like classy i don't know i think it's like barra fell he's uh named one of her daughter's l yeah yeah but it wasn't

because of her i liked it before i promised i oh l woods there's l woods from uh legally blind oh yeah yeah yeah but also those are names that you know in in hebrew It's not, you know, they're not going to break their teeth and having to say it. It's like easy. Yeah, exactly. Even though I wonder how they say Aden. Aidan? They say Aden.

They ruin it. They destroy the name, basically. No, they think Eden, like paradise, Eden. Oh, they say Eden. But it's not Eden. But it's Eden. Right. You're like, watch sex in the city and get back to me.

So you're saying, you were telling me you're doing real estate for seven years. Yeah. So were you in a different profession before? Yeah. So retail. Remember, I sold clothes and. Oh. So for that long, though, for 10 years?

I was doing that. Yeah. And then I worked in downtown in lane wholesale. So we basically sold clothes to, you know, to retailers. So I was always in the retail industry, actually. So how did you get into real estate and how was it to luxury homes? first or did you start with smaller? No, you know, LA, I mean, so first of all, my mom told me to go get my license.

She thinks it could be a good opportunity for me to just do real estate. And I figured, hey, why not? So, you know, I joined a company in L.A. And luxury in L.A., it's, look, look, every tear down in there, it's like $1.5 million, right? So it sounds luxury to other, you know, part of the state. But no, my first transaction was a small condo, $300,000. And you know what, believe you or not, I'm here in Miami. A lot of those condos are $300,000, so I'm still doing those.

I would love to get into more like waterfront, you know, houses. But I'm newer to Miami. So it's going to probably take time here. I know, but you have like selling sunset on your resume. Exactly. Excuse me. Exactly. Say thank you.

Let me tell a lot. What is it, Star Island? What is the fanciest place? Yeah, Star Island, Star Island. Jennifer Lopez? No, actually. They live in, they actually live in, well, I'm in Pearl Gables, which is a nice little area. So they live Sri Niro not too far from here.

Do you see them around? I haven't seen them around, but I did show Jennifer Lopez a house long time ago in L.A. And probably a lot of other celebs, too. You know, I wasn't, I didn't have the luxury to work with celebs except, well, I saw the house to Luda Chris. So Luda Chris is my client. And I showed a house and Andretti, Marco Andretti,

with their cari's thing. He's a potential. Yeah. So he was looking at Husses with me. But I know Jason did, I think, worked with Orlando Blue, with Chris Humphreys, Taye Diggs and a bunch of other people. I think the only celebs they showed on the show was Tay Diggs, who's friends with Jason and then Larsa Pippen.

I know, but like, who cares about Larson Pippen? Like, she's best friends with the Kardashians. It's the only reason it looks like them. Totally looked like them, right? Yeah, she wasn't born looking like them, but now she looks like them, yeah. I feel like every girl wants to look like the Kardashians. Like everybody's trying to embrace the booty.

Listen, I say this all the time. I had a big ass my whole life and didn't like it, but good to know that people are now for it. Yeah, I mean, I'm sure that's the thing. I'm sure in L.A., you're so much more around that. I see it on social media, but New York is different, you know? New York is the, the more they look in. There was a look in, uh...

Everyone looks the way they look, you know? In Soho, you're going to see that type of person. If you're on the Upper East Side, you'll see moms with up a fucking baby. If you're somewhere else, you'll see. But I think that's another reason you stood out on the cast because, I mean, obviously Christine is like this like, I don't, I don't even know how to describe her. It's like, in Hebrew I would say, marcia ma'am. Yeah.

But it's more like, she's larger than life and the heels and the hair and the, I mean, it's a lot. And a lot of other girls, it's like the boobs and the thing. And so I do have, I do have fake boobs, a full disclosure. I probably, you know, I got them done like, honestly a while ago. So I probably need to redo it. Why? You need to redo it. They say silicon, you have to change every like, whatever, 10, 20 years. And it's been, it's been a while for me. She's, I mean, if they still look good. Yeah, I don't want to mess it up. but hopefully it's still, you know, safe there. I don't know.

So even though those girls, aside from you having fake boobs, seem a little bit different than your style, are you actually close with the rest of the cast? Yeah. So, you know, it's not like, look, I talk with the Vina a lot because the Vina is probably the legitimate real estate agent. I know people don't like her, a lot of them on the show, unfortunately,

but she's a very legitimate. She's actually a very nice person. And I think... I feel bad for her. she got a very I mean listen I thought she was a bitch too but if I think about things I'll be like okay I know that she probably also got a really bad edit because that's all they showed like they didn't show oh she was a bitch here but here she is really sweet nice and caring no they didn't so they basically kind of like ex you know didn't do her justice on the first season so then people already judged her from the first season and then you carry on the second season. But she's a very, probably the most, I would say, legit real estate agent. Doing it for 15 years. She sold a lot of properties. So I talk to her a lot because it's also about work and stuff. And then I talk to Christine often enough. And Heter and I

exchange messages, Amanda, we share her to exchange messages. Mary Les, because she's busy with work in Romaine and all that. But I would say to all of them. I mean, not every day. With all of them? Yeah, with all of them, we stay in touch. Oh, that's nice. So no like real life drama. Not with me. No, you know, like I have nothing against any of them. And at the end of the day, I know them for a long time, all these girls.

I mean, Criselle and Divina joined us last. So I know them last. But, you know, I get along with all of them. So when Crishel joined and some of the other girls seemed to be like taken aback by it or, you know, you could tell there was sort of the competitiveness coming out of like, look at this new. you know, beautiful agent to bring in that also her husband, uh, or now ex-husband is a, as a known person. And I mean, she was getting, I mean, she got, she got some shit from, from Christine, which was hard to watch at times. They got along very well in the beginning.

The fight at the end of, uh, season one, I don't know where it came from. I don't know what happened. We were all shocked. Uh, so it was definitely real. Nothing was fake about that one. And, you know, I think somehow DeVina got sucked into it because DeVina and Krishel had the conversation and, you know, they kind of like agree to disagree. Like, oh, you said this. So I said that. It was kind of like no big deal. Right. Okay.

Well, let's just like, whatever. And then Christine just like, boom. It was crazy to me on a few levels. It was crazy that because at the end of the day, do you watch any reality TV like real housewives or do you watch any? You know, the real housewife. I got to tell you. Like I watched them the first season when they first came out like, whatever. whatever, 15 years ago, and I never watched it again.

I do watch occasions, not as often, but I will watch the Kardashians and a million dollar listing. So those two I would watch. I'd like reality to be. But what I'm, what I'm trying to say is like, you know how reality works. Like, you need a little bit of like he said, she said, like, I heard this. I heard that. So that's what I didn't understand how, you know, Christine was making such a big deal out

of, first of all, it had to do with Mary. If you guys don't remember what I'm talking about, it's like Divina. And Chrisel kind of, when she came on, was trying to gossip with Divina naturally about, wait, so Mary, she's dating a 25-year-old, then what does he do? And does he make money? And do you think he, I mean, obviously it's not a conversation you want to hear about yourself, but also, like, it's not like so surprising or so malicious that people would be talking about it. And it seemed like Christine cared more than Mary about that. Yeah, I don't know. I mean, she just jumped out of nowhere and basically, you know, express their opinion. And it's been a fight for a while since then. And then they kind of like hush things over when we start filming the second season. Now, I don't know where they stand at this point as we speak. That's, I mean, we have a lot to look forward to in the third season, I feel like. Yeah, so third season they are still okay. Then we're done filming.

And some stuff happens, so, which I'm not going to say. But I don't know if they, I don't know what's their situation right now. I heard it's just, you know. So what did you think of the, the, because you, I don't think you talked about it. Like when everyone was like talking shit about Mary not getting a diamond. I didn't know. So my thing is like, I can care less. You know, like they, so what happened was we, we filmed this scene.

And they're like, oh, yeah, the ring was mozen height. like, Mozenite? I'm like, what is Mozenite? Did you even know what that is? I don't know what that is. I had no clue, and I didn't even know how to say it. Now I know to say Mozenheit, but I actually had no clue. So I'm like, oh, what is that? What is that? So then when we did the interviews, they were like, oh, you know, Maya, why don't you Google Mozenheit? So then I was like, oh, Mozenite.

I had no clue. And I can careless, you know, if you wants to bring a, you know, a fake one, a diamond made of whatever, like, whatever. I don't care. And I don't think, to be honest, I don't think he, I don't think Devina care too much. She's just like, basically casually, ask, well, you care that it's not real kind of thing. And then it makes it look like, oh, my gosh. Like, it's not real.

Right. It's terrible. And Romaine was upset about it. And, oh, my God, Romaine was upset about it as a fucking understatement. Like, usually guys don't get so, um, fired up. Yeah, they're like, whatever. They don't get, like, I try to always pull my husband into, like, my drama. And he's like, he doesn't care.

as much like he said she said and and seeing a dude being like so adamant and then I almost want to watch that scene again like because Davina had been bitchy before like I told you like she does come across a little bit bitchy on the show but that was just like so blown up and Chrisel who was the one asking the questions because she was new and like wanted to know who's who she didn't get shit for it at all because she was just asking you know what I mean right it's like wanting to know and then if you see the scene it's like she was asking and And then Davina said, I don't know, I guess so or something. But then for some of the people really took it, like, Devino is the one we're saying all that stuff.

And even, you know, I'm having flashbacks now that, like, you know what, like, a leading question is? Like, I feel like Chrisel's questions were a little, like, leading and loaded of, like, wait, so he doesn't, like, have a job. Like, sort of. And listen, I'm not going to be, in Hebrew you say, said, Cunit, I'll say in English, self-righteous. I would judge a little bit Not getting a diamond Like when my husband proposed to me We were living in Israel

We didn't have money And he fucking got me a diamond Okay You know, yeah He did what he had to do So you don't have to get the biggest diamond But getting a gym Is

I mean it's especially for a woman First of all I respect the hell out of Mary I think You know she's successful She obviously like you said We know you guys make good commission We see it on the thingy

we know she works hard we know all the shit so for me thinking of her i'm like wow good for you for being so humble not caring about shit like that but i wouldn't judge so harshly to say i'd be like get a get i would do the same i would inquire too like you couldn't get a fucking diamond see so she said like a she questioned well she questioned it well she questioned it too because Mary came to one scene at the office crying about the conversation with Romaine, where this is going, there you want kids, you don't want kids. So Devina was just questioning Romaine's intention. Like, is he actually, is he really, does he really care for her? And unfortunately, it came across the wrong way. And she basically got, you know, the edits didn't help. And

unfortunately, it carried all the way to the second season. But yeah, I mean, I can say she's a really a nice person and did she take it hard did she take it like she didn't really care she's like look if they don't want me in the wedding they don't mean the wedding she actually apologizes but they don't show her apology in the show so what can you ask you you know and it's it's sex because you get a lot of comments from people and hate comments but people judge you by the 30 minutes they see on the show yeah they forget that you know the editing does a lot and you know it's not it's not it's a scripted show but editing can make things look like different. If you ask me a question and I roll my eyes on another question, but they will take my

eyes or, you know, me roll in my eyes on and put it together. Yeah. You know what I mean? So. So was she getting a lot of like was her obviously watching herself. She was probably upset about the edit, but probably also she was, I can assume, getting not a lot of love from the audience. Yeah. So it's interesting to see because it's either people, so people make teams. It's either team DeVina and Christine and team whatever, Chrisel and Mary. Oh, right, because her and Christine

towards the end of two became like really close. Yeah, they're actually really close friends. So people are kind of like either team this or team that. So it's interesting to see what, and some people love team Christine and the Vina. Some people like team Chrisel and Mary.

But, and I like, you know, the middle. To not be in the middle of it. I can't. Yeah, I mean, I like them all. I mean, I have no problem. But I am close to Christine.

the vina that's for sure that's crazy because they also seem because i when i i told you i had mary on the podcast then and i really like like odd friendships so at the beginning when they showed and made it seem like christine and mary were like bfps galore i like kind of liked it i was like they seemed different like she's like tall and like vixen bitty and she's like small and seems like she's always like being polite and nice. So I like the connection and then was sad to see that it went to shit. But obviously, Christine is a very complex person. If, you know, Divina doesn't seem like her vibe.

Divina seems like you said, she's the most serious. She's the most. Totally. But, you know, I think because the show, because people did Team Divina Christine, they kind of felt they need to get her. You know, so. They have that in a comment. But I think Christine also,

DeVina is, you know, people don't see it on the show, but Devina is very intelligent and put things in perspective. And sometimes Christine, I think, needs that a little bit. Like, hey, like, this is what I think. This is. So I think that's where they actually get along well.

And, uh, yeah. So, Maya, what do we have to expect on the third season? I mean, we all saw the promo. It looks like. Obviously, we know the divorce. Unfortunately, that happened. I know. Can't wait to hear.

I mean, can't wait to see about it, hear about it. I know. It was surprised to all of us. And, you know, I got a sake, Michelle was very, very professional filming the show because, you know, you're going to such a huge person. Wow. So she was very, very professional about it and held herself together doing it. I'm sure I'm going to see scenes that I have no clue because most of the scenes that they shot with her was not with me and her. It was like mainly Amanda and Mary.

So the production somehow decided to divide. us to groups. So it would be interesting to see what, you know, what they film because I have no clue what happened. And so it's going to be that. Then on a positive note, we have Christine's wedding, which, you know, Christine, I think is casual over there. It'll be a different vibe.

Completely different vibe. Than like Mary's wedding. Yeah. Yeah. Mary's wedding was fun, very intimate, very cute. It really looked beautiful. I like that vibe. It really looked really nice.

Yeah. But you know what I was thinking? as we're, like, wrapping up and you're telling me about what we're going to see third season. I'm like, you know who we didn't talk about Heather? We didn't talk about Heather. And this isn't the first time that I forget that Heather was on the show. Yet, I was doing a little Instagram digging. And she has the most followers out of everyone.

She does. You know, Heather is dating Tarek, and Tarek has a very successful show on HGTV. And I think that helps. He's what? he's what like a television personality yeah yeah he has a show called flip and or flap on hg tv oh it's like uh flipping houses basically oh he's from the industry too yeah so uh oh i see yeah so that i think that helps like he's actually pretty pretty known and funny enough i actually met tarik long long time ago before he actually had this tv show when i went out

sometime we start talking and then i'm like oh i do this at all real estate and you know immediately Yeah, everybody in Gilles that I, you know, I make a conversation with. So I knew. Oh, yeah, I know how that is. Yeah. I remember, you know, when you were, because you came back to work, how quickly after you had your first son? I'm always working. You know, I had my, last year when I had my baby, as we left the hospital, I was on the

phone a little client from New York, actually, went to my condo in Miami. So I was like, I was available right away. But granted, can I run and do showings the next day? No. Yeah, right. So I need like maybe three, four weeks a break, yes, because I don't sleep. Now I sleep. Oh, my God.

So it was insane seeing you like give birth, come back, whatever. But then I remember speaking about Heather that she was like, that I might be, you know, making this a little bit different than how it was. But I remember her being like, well, you know how it is with like the kids. She was like relating to you and to like Amanda who's like a single mom. and I don't remember if you called her out or maybe you and Mary but we're like

it's not really the same because she has like stepchildren that are heard and I think are bigger yeah she's very very involved to them which is actually very sweet to see because she's committed all in but yeah but when we filmed

it was the funny thing is we filmed the show last summer right and she and Tarek maybe dated like they just met like a month ago like a month before So it was funny how she was talking about it, but they literally just started dating. But you know what? A year later, here we are and they are still together.

They're still together. And she's very, very much involved. So I'm proud of her and she says like she's enjoying it. I mean, she's still with him. Obviously, you're married to kids. Mary and Romaine are still going strong. Christine gets married and hear about anything. So, I mean, you're like a little bit smiling and I can't tell.

if something happens there. No, no, where? Oh, okay. No, no, no, no. I'm smiling. No, no. And that's another thing about Christine. She marries this guy who's a gazillionaire from MIT.

He's like a genius, right? He's a genius. He's, uh, yeah, he's a tech guy. Uh, he sold his company and he's a very smart guy. And, uh, you know, he's very calm too. So I think maybe that's a good balance for Christine. It's so crazy how, because someone was asking me, like, how, how is he like going with her? Like, it doesn't make sense.

And I was like, why do you think, like, nerdy dudes, like, want a nerdy wife? Like, no, they want something else. Yeah, they want like a, like a crazy hot one. So that's a definition, literally a crazy hot one. Like a crazy hot one. I know. I like her. She's crazy.

She's bolstein. You know, she's honestly, frankly, she, she's making the show, I think. We need making the show you think. We need Christine. We need Christine in the show 100%. Do you think? she ever, because I was wondering this when I was trying to go over in my head about how she exploded on Chriselle and like kind of humiliated her at that whole party and whatever.

And I was like, and then I told you it's kind of weird to me because it wasn't even about her. It was something about Mary and Mary didn't even care. So I was wondering, I was like, is there any way she's like turning it on a little bit because like you said, maybe she does feel kind of like, I'm supposed to be the like, not that it's scripted, but. Yeah. I don't know. It's actually a good question. I don't know if she put us in her, in herself, in a character. I think she can be crazy like that at times. But you know, that party obviously maybe glass or two of champagne contribute to the outcome. But yeah, I mean, look, it wasn't, we, none of us saw it coming and I felt really bad for Cushel. And, you know, Christine called me after we've done film and she's like, I think it was too much. I'm like, yeah, you should, you should call and apologize, but then that was a little bit too late. Yeah. And mad shit went down after, too. Yeah, basically.

Okay, Maya, thank you so much for coming on and chatting with me. Everyone go, follow Maya at. Yeah, it's like Maya Vander, basically, the Maya Vander. The Maya Vander on Instagram. Are you anywhere else that we should know of? We're not on YouTube. We're not on TikTok. I mean, I am not on TikTok.

I'm depending if I should do it. But I don't, don't do it. It's not for over 30. It's not for my niece says TikTok. That's how I feel. That's my personal opinion. But, you know, it could be that I'm judging

and other people are laughing all the way to the bank. So that's what I wonder. But you know, it's probably not me. So you can find you on LinkedIn. You can find her on LinkedIn or her own website. The Oppenheim group.

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