Not Skinny But Not Fat - Selling Sunset: The Office’s Fave w/ Mary Fitzgerald

Episode Date: July 21, 2020

Like almost everyone else on planet earth, I got obsessed with Netflix’s Selling Sunset during quarantine and cannoth wait for season 3 coming in August! To get my temporary fix, I chatted with Mary Fitzgerald, The Oppenheim group’s (and Jason’s), favorite agent. We talk about her relationship w/ the other women, with Jason, that hug that seemed to last for eternity, how Romain feels about it, how she felt about that moissanite engagement ring and the girls’ comments on it. And what is up with the happy married couple now? Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. Thank you for joining us today. Thank you for having me. I was telling Mary before we started, Mary Fitzgerald from Selling Sunset, the new obsession.

Do you feel like everyone's watching the show now? I think it has blown up since season one, And I think we had a lot of fans, but season two, I don't know what happened. It just, it seems like everybody caught on. I think the COVID thing had a lot to do with it. Everyone was sitting at home needing something new to watch. And now we're just getting such great feedback. Yeah, it couldn't have been launched at a better time.

Like I was thinking about it today when I was talking. I was telling you my whole family is obsessed with you. I told them I was going to interview you and everyone's like, I love Mary. I love Mary. And I was like, wow, like all of you watch this show. I was told about this show for my followers. They were like, you have to watch. You have to watch.

And you're right. It did start like during being quarantined and looking for a new show. And then I was like, wait, there's already season two. Like, why wasn't I on this? And then from the responses, it seemed like there was a lot of discovery of the show, season two. And then obviously we went back and binged one. But it's interesting that you felt that too.

I think it's probably five times more popular. I mean, I don't know. Netflix never gives us statistics or numbers or anything, but just the response that we've all received and the amount of hype that there is about the show, I think it's done a lot better than season one. And I think everyone's going to love season three. It just keeps getting better and better.

We forget what happens because it's a while ago. And even when we watched it back about a week before it started, Chrisel, Jason, I got on his phone, we're like, oh my God, that was juicy. We're like, we forgot. Like, all this stuff happened at the same time. And I think, I think everyone's going to love season here. Because I'll tell you what, like, I know people that watch

million dollar listing, right? And, like, personally, I'm not like a real estate buff. So, like, I want the drama and, like, a little bit of pretty houses. You know what I mean? And other people, some people that love, you know, the million dollar listing and shows like that, like, they want to see. more of the business side. And I feel like selling sunset has the perfect amount of like you feel like you kind

of get a vibe. I'm sure everyone watching it is like, why didn't I go into, you know, luxury, real estate? I did get so many messages about that where we've inspired them to go into real estate, what are kids. So I'm going to have to do some posts whenever I find the time about what to do. And it's not, there's a lot more to it than what you see on the show. It's not, you know, you can't get your license and go out and just sell a $5 million house right away. You barely even know how to fill out an offer.

Right. When you get your license. So you have to like, I think be mentor, build up, get your clientele and really establish. Yeah, you can't just jump right into it. There's a lot that goes on. You have to have a mentor system. And the most amazing, a field, a career I could ever imagine. It's hard work.

It's not a nine to five. job. Like I was up to 1 a.m. last night and then up again at 6 a.m. trying to get things done. Otherwise, you lose deals and lose opportunities. So if it's someone that wants their weekends off, it's not for you. If it's someone that once, you know, you can schedule, you have your own schedule, but your schedule is basically your client schedule. Right. So when you have multiple clients, you're just like all over the place. That's insane. You were, because I saw you went, you went to college. Bell State. So did you know then you were into like real estate or did you study something else? No, I studied radiology. It was like a line health scientist. I worked in in the ER basically

and and in surgery. And you know, it was fun, but it just wasn't for me. It wasn't for you. I need to be out in the world and interacting with people. So standing in a surgery room all like, you know, sterile environment and just standing there for hours. That's why it's, you know, when we go to college at such a young age, I feel like we don't actually know, like, who we are yet exactly. So we choose something and we pay a gazillion dollars. And then, and then you're like, we just what my son's doing right now. Oh, no. What is he studying?

Oh, yeah. A biochem. Well, maybe he'll be a biochemist. Yeah, that's what the plan was. But right now, he's just figuring it out. I think I came to the decision before he did that you're not really into this, are you? Because he just kept going along, but not like, didn't have a passion for it. So I was like, even if you have to switch right now, you didn't know going into it.

Now you know, figure out what you want to do and go for it. It's fine. We've all done it. Everyone has changed their careers. Everyone's gone to college and doesn't use, or a lot of people don't use what they went to college for. It's not that big of a deal, but just make sure you find something. So what age did you fall into real estate and how, if you can tell me a little bit about that? 2008, Sun was going into junior high school.

And I didn't have to be school classes, school moms and all those different things. Starting that age, they're off with their friends and stuff anyway. And so I decided to get my license. And it was the worst timing in the world to get it because it's, when the market crash. But I did great. I loved it. And I just knew I wanted to because I would want to move every year. And even like leasing an apartment or something, I would, I would want to move just because I love the process of searching for a new place and going in, looking at them, finding the one. And I was spending a fortune and it was not good for my son. So it's like

move every year. I mean, we didn't in the school districts, but I just wanted to see new places and wanted that whole process. So that's what I did. Got my license and decided to make money at it for other people instead of upbringing my life every year. Wait, so was this always in L.A.? Did you do it in New York? I saw that you live too, though.

Articles come out saying I did it in London and I did it in New York. I think that soon now, because I worked for the Candy Brothers in London. It was a Project One Hide Park that they were involved in. And I was working with them, like with that project. and with clients that were coming in to buy them.

Well, it sounds, it sounds fancy. All of their really high-end clients. It's like Mary, from New York to London to L.A. Yeah. I've lived in like different places and they're all cool. I love both cities. L.A. is my home. L.A. is your home.

I've been here for almost 20 years. Oh, my God. Yeah. First of all, you look amazing. You look amazing. Like, you guys just try to like, she has a 21-year-old, 21-year-old, your son is 21.

23. 23 now. He's 23 now. I know. I'm going by the show still. I'm going by like season one, you know? Since when have you been with the Oppenheim group? Six years, maybe?

Six years, yeah. So tell me a little bit about that and how, I mean, we all know from the show that you and Jason were together. Dated. Which came up is so weird now because I feel like it came up randomly in one of the episodes. You know what I mean? It wasn't like episode one. Season one, we get to know the background, okay, this person did that.

I remember one of the episodes that was like, oh, yeah, they were together. Oh, yeah, they own a dog. And I was like, pause. Wait, what? Wait, I think we said it like that because that's just how we are. That's our life. We forget that we used to date. People ask us about it or because of the show, you know, they dive into it.

When Chrisel came, she was new. And so she didn't know the whole backstory. But for us, this was a long time ago. Yeah, we dated. We live together. We have dogs together. But that's just our life. It's just normal for us. So we don't think about talking about it. We're just like best friends. How long were you together for? Like a year, something like that. We were living together for about four months somewhere around there. And then we just kept dating on and off. Like he knew he couldn't commit. And so we stopped living together. But then we were still so close. We have a really special connection. And so we kept trying. to date and it just was not working. I'm really not the kind of girl to like share someone I care about. And so I would see him like with another girl and I'm like,

I can't handle this. This is not happening. We're just friends now. That's it. I can't do this. And plus you're working together at the same time. So that adds like more. Yeah.

How were people in the office like feeling about it? Because I mean, I know now they call you the favorite and everything. like that. So I'm assuming then it was like crazier. No, because what they don't focus on in this show is Nicole is also, she's one of my absolute best, but she's the one that I asked to officiate our wedding. That's Jason's ex-girlfriend before me. Oh. Yeah. And so she's married now. And she was dating or engaged her dating the guy at the time. Like when Jason and I started dating, I was actually very nervous to meet her.

because I heard she you know she's a tough one and and and but we like loved each other from the start we were at a friend's house and out on the balcony and people thought we were we were arguing because we're like

in they're talking and they couldn't hear what we were saying and they came up and they're like is everything okay? We're like oh my God she's awesome I love her and and so we've just a good friend she was an agent at the office too she's just not on the show

she doesn't have many girlfriends he's only had like maybe four in his life like actual girlfriends that he's very serious about And then the other one also works with us. She, as she starts, she's like, she works there now too, but we love her. Same thing happened.

He said he's, you know, start dating someone in the corner, but like, oh, great. Okay. And then we meet her, we're like, she's a keeper. And it's like, all the girls are too serious about.

They're good. And they stay in our group. I mean, we all remain very good friends afterwards, even when they break up. That's amazing. First of all, he has a pattern. Relationship maturity. Yeah.

I mean, he has a pattern of like mixing business with pleasure sort of. But I guess when your business is your life, then, you know, it kind of is bound to mix. So, I mean, it's amazing that you have a mature relationship like that. I know you're not going to like tell me you agree with me right now. But from my hunt and when I like psychoanalyze him, I'm like, Mary is like I feel like the one that he would like you can tell again, Even though he didn't go into it and like confessionals and stuff, like that he loves you as a person a lot and cares about you so much and that he probably really has like deep commitment issues.

And even though he loved you a lot, he couldn't, he couldn't do it. Do you think he ever will? I don't know. Not for a while. He's focused on work and he likes, he's done his way. He likes his space. And I mean, I'm kind of the same way. So we understand each other very, very well, but he likes his face and he, you know, he just needs his alone time.

So I think after a certain point, he can't be in relationships because he doesn't want someone just always there and like telling him what to do or where he can go, where he can't go. He's like, no, I do what I want in the nicest way, but he just doesn't want people controlling him. I mean, listen, it's a choice. I don't know. Maybe when he gets older, he'll want that. But he's changing little by little. He's starting to want it more. I don't, I don't think he's capable of it quite yet.

But he, I can see him starting to want it more. And is his brother like the same exact way? Worse. I mean, he's way worse. Yeah. Jason at least will try to commit. Like he'll at least try for a couple months and then be like, oh, dang, I can't do it.

Yeah. And then Brett can't. He won't even, he won't even try. He's like, I don't know, like a week of seeing someone on and off, like maybe two times one week. He's like, oh, that's way too much for me. I can't. Oh, my God.

I mean, he will not have a girlfriend. He will not, no. Wow. Yeah, I'm having flashbacks now of like him and, him and Heather were like kind of close, like in this weird friendshipy slash. They joke around about it a lot, but, um, there's nothing there. Nothing went. and Heather's madly in love with Tarek.

Tarik, yeah. But, no, there's nothing there. But they just have, like, I think, like, a little flirtation and fun with it. But, no, that would and couldn't ever go anywhere. So speaking of that, and like I was saying, I wanted to get into it. Because, like, a lot of people are like, yeah, Mary, she's the favorite. Like, she, like, some of the girls were, like, you know, saying that you get certain listings, maybe. I think it's so funny.

Well, like, that they say that. And they all of them are saying it And making such a big deal about this And I'm like either I get less Because I have my own things going on Like everything you guys felt Those are all my listings My clients didn't give me anything

On occasion he will bring me on to things though If he doesn't have time Or won't get along with the client He thinks I would get along with them better He knows if he can trust me I'm always working But I mean some of the other girls What are you going to do?

They're out traveling He's not going to give it to give something to someone or even or even think about it if he can't rely on them staying home and being there and working all day every day. Yeah, that's a thing. Like you were saying it's not like the way it seems obviously in so many ways. But also like, you know, when we saw on the show, Christine went away for like months on end. Like all of us over here like did she take PTO?

It was like six months for a girl. It was crazy. But I mean, she looked like she'd so much fun. and, you know, in a new relationship, but don't complain about not getting a listing handed over to you or sharing a listing with them if you're not even in the country. Right. So, like, we all know the basics of real estate is that it's based on commission.

So obviously, like you said, if you work, you're going to make money if you don't. But, like, again, like you're part of an office. So are you guys more like freelancers? Like, you don't have to come to the office every day? Or how is it that everyone's traveling galore? We've got our own schedule. We work as much as we've worked. want or don't work if we don't want, but you're not going to retain clients or get new clients

if you're if you're not working and hustling. So we don't have to go in the office. I work from home a lot, especially during COVID and stuff. If we're not filming, I get more done at home because I don't have people yapping around me. I just get more done. And I don't have to get ready in morning, which I love. If I don't have showings, I'll just sit and work from home. So I'm like, I'm chilling today and just working here. I'm not putting on makeup. I might not even have to shower if I don't wear it to. I know that's the other thing when I watched the show. I mean, obviously you guys are getting probably a little bit more dressed up

when there are cameras, but I was just like when I was doing my like, I should have been a real estate agent. I was like, couldn't wear heels like that every day. Couldn't look that amazing every day. But yeah, it's a lot keeping up.

It's a lot of keeping up. And all these clients, they're like multi, multi people. So you have to look like your best. It's all the time. Yeah, most of the time, most of the time we do. And I think it depends, too. I change the way I dress depending on where I'm out, what listing I'm out, what

client I'm showing. Some people in the hills, they're so laid back. They would almost get, like, weirded out became, like, really super dressed up. Like, because it can be more trendy. If I'm in the flats of Beverly Hills or in Bel Air, like, in certain areas, I need to be more conservative. I have a jacket over top. Don't have my boobs hanging out or anything. I try to

feel out the situation to see what's appropriate. And then other clients, they're like, why are you in heels right now? Take them off. You have you have sandals in your car, put them on. And they get mad. They're like, you don't have to dress up for me, girl. And so it just depends. Other people think you're not professional if you're

not dressed up. Right. Well, so I know we're talking by case basis. We're talking about Jason. And I need ask about the longest hug in the history of hugs that happened? It was not that long. Okay, that's where

editing and perception of this because I think it was Christine or someone said, oh my God, like 20 minutes or something. I'm like, if you watch the hug on there, that's literally how long it was.

It was like a hug and then the camera sees us from one angle and another angle and he hugged me. It was maybe 10 seconds. It was not. I know. It was not.

I mean, it was a longer hug. You kind of call me down. It was like 10 seconds, 20. Yeah. It was a moment. It was definitely a moment. I started dying laughing when I saw that. I was like, oh my God.

Of course. Like, it looks like this. And she's like 20 minutes early. But what are you going to do? We do hug all the time. All the time. So, and I mean, for people that watch the show, they probably know this. But obviously, dated, really good friends still work together.

you asked him to be in your wedding. You had your engagement dinner at his house. He stood and cried at your wedding, which was so cute. Like I said, like it's so obvious that he loves you. How does Romaine, Mary's husband, feel about all this in real life and also watching it back? Totally fine about it. They are such good friends. We get in an argument.

He's like, I'm going to Jason. And like, she goes over and like they will talk. and like we all hang out all the time we've gone vacations together they're really really good friends really good friends and so he there's no jealousy whatsoever because I think when Romaine when he and I first met

he could already see the dynamic that we were friends it's not like Jason came back in a picture as my ex-boyfriend like and he didn't know he knew before we started dating that this is my good friend yeah we used to date but he could see the dynamic before he had an emotional connection with each other.

So, and then they became friends too. And he just knows Jason. He would never, in a million years, hurt one of his friends. He would never do that to me or do that to remain. And he knows I would never do that. Remain knows I would never do it either. So he doesn't worry about it at all. You probably get, though, like annoying comments on social media and shit like that, though, right?

I feel like that even if you're so secure can, like, trigger, like, if people are saying about the hug and, like, because I get it, you're totally right. it's all about how you come into the relationship. Like you and Jason have something established and then it's like the guy that you're starting to see already knows it and he can't really, he has to accept it or be upset about it.

Well, he's grateful. I mean, it's like the polar opposite of just dealing with it. He's so grateful. They became his family. And so he truly feels like he gained two brothers. Wow.

We've got like a really close-knit group outside of what you guys see on the show too. I mean, Jason and Brett and one of the other agents, Alice, there's a like maybe, I don't know, eight of us. Then we hang out nonstop. We're like a family.

And so people don't get to see all of us on there, but it's pretty fun. So we're making so blah. So we're not seeing everything on the show. How did the show come to be? Like was it, was it Jason and Brett's idea? How did people know?

Like there's this chic boutique agency? It's Adam DeVillo. He is the one he's the one. He saw a photo of our team in, I don't know, some magazine. It was like a Hollywood reporter or something like that. It was just like a real estate ad or like picture. And he was like, this cannot be real. He's like, there was like a bunch of supermodels like all on this thing.

And so he looked this up. He was like, oh, my God, they're real. And asked to come talk about, and I think he's always loved real estate, he said, and has never done that and just thought, if we all have, have personalities, then it's something he would consider doing. And so he came in, met with us, and Jason and Brett, they were not, they didn't think we were going to do it. They actually turned down a couple other people before because they didn't think it, it vibes

with our, our brokerage and what the image they want to portray. They gave him a chance. He did a sizzle reel, pitched it, and Netflix eventually picked it up. That's so crazy. Adam DeVille, that's what everyone told me when I started watching. They're like, of course you like it. It's the same guy who did, you know, the hills and, and, um, Liginabee. So he knows how to like, make it, like, sizzily.

He is a genius. His vision is crazy. Like the camera, it was in the quality of stuff. It's just, and the music that they put into it. I was like, he just, like, makes this masterpiece. And we're like, it didn't, I mean, how can you make it sitting at our desk look glamorous? We're like, we're just sitting there working. How does that look glamorous?

But he does. He's a genius. He's so nice, so cool. We're lucky to be able to work with him. Before I watched it, I heard from a few people that are like, you know, it may seem a little scripted and stuff like that, but like you'll definitely like it. And then I watched it on it was like,

it doesn't seem scripted at all to me. Like I, like it definitely seems like, right? Like, I mean, not that you. It's not scripted. It's not at all. I wish it were sometimes because you can't take back. like what you say because in a moment Heather and I were talking about this the other day

like once we watch it back we're like oh why didn't we see it like this but in a moment you're just living your life and someone catches you off guard and you're just kind of like what's just happened and it's not the reaction or you don't say what you wish you would have said and

it's not just you like the two people that are in the room it's like the world gets to see you say something that you wish you could take back or that you wish you would have said more, or defined yourself more, something like that. And it's Netflix. So it's, it's, it's a big audience. You know, it's not, it's not a worldwide. You know, I'm a big Bravo fan. I don't know if you watch any Bravo shows. I don't even have normal TV. I only stream. I don't have enough

time to watch. So I was going to say, like, I love Bravo shows and Bravo has like their own cult of followers and people that love the housewives and everything like that. But it will never amount to what you know Netflix is because like you said it's worldwide so your exposure is freaking huge but so about that like you're saying you can never take back things that uh I mean you can't take back things that you said he was said differently but I mean like I said everyone that I know loves you and I feel like you came off I mean I'm sure it's who you are but no one could ever say anything negative about you I mean your your thing on the show like Is it 100% love and, like, positive feedback that you're getting is what I assume, but or do you feel like it's not?

I would say 99% just very positive comments, which I'm still grateful for it because it's just, I guilt myself. I still feel like the Catholic guilt because I was raised Catholic and stuff and I'm so hard on myself. And I expect so much of myself that if anything happens, like I see myself. even like lose it at Heather's broker's open I'm like that is that's so unprofessional

why would I do that and they didn't show the backstory of why I was just like I can't do this because I end up having handwritten table numbers at my wedding because I left getting

going to get the printing to come be there to support her open house production was like listen she's having a broker's open and we've really left for you to be here you know should have support everyone else is here

and so I'm like I can't And so I went ahead and I came, I'm not done up at all. And I was like, I'm just trying to run around two days before my wedding. And so I get there. And then Christine starts in on me. And I was just like, holding together. And, you know, I just like went off. Like, I normally never would.

I mean, A, you were two days before your wedding. You were two days before your wedding and like what bride isn't going crazy. Two, let's not forget you like showed a house the day of your wedding while you freaking had like rollers in your hair or something. And I sold it. Oh, you sold it that day? I shouldn't give that away.

I didn't people know already, but I didn't give it away yet. You'll see what happens on season. Oh my God. So, I mean, that just shows like what a freaking workaholic you are. And also I could only imagine like that gave you more adrenaline the day of the wedding.

But it's insane to be scheduling that while you're in the wedding robe. I was like, Oh, my God. I wanted to talk about Christine. Your guys' friendship at the beginning, like, I'm the hugest fan of, like, friendships that don't seem like they make sense because the people seem so different.

Like, I love that. Like, so at the beginning, when you guys were, you know, walking your dogs and we got the vibe from both of you, that you're like sisters, you live together before all this stuff. And I was like, okay, Christine, is this like, even visually, she's like huge and, you know,

so tall and, you know, big. bigger than life and very big feature and sort of, I'm here and you're like smaller and sweeter. And so I was like, oh, like, I love that this works that Christine has this like bitchy, vixony attitude and you like balance her out. So I could see it working. And then something really, really shifted. And I was talking to people about this other day, which like, you can tell how much I love the show. And I was like, but what happened? Because I feel like it happened kind of surrounding your engagement and everything but like no real reason like what is what what happened there i'm still trying to figure it out to you to be honest um but i i think

i thought we were good um and i even asked her are we okay i'll come down to chichelle i think is where most of it came from when and they don't show everything on the show they have to edit it down because it's way too long and gone out but who think of trying to defend me um And I was like, I don't need defending. I'm not mad at Chrisella. She asked some questions about Romaine. I mean, there's nothing wrong with that. Now, DeVina lying to her because she knew he worked.

She knows that the thing, that I was not happy about that. Okay. But I'm not mad at Chrisel. And so when she attacked Chrisel, I'm like, this is not okay. And so I think that's where she felt like I betrayed her. And I'm going to allow someone to be treated so badly in front of me and about me, I was like, this is, this is not all right. I mean, she didn't do anything.

I, Michelle, the biggest sweetheart. And so, and then it just carried on. I tried to talk to Christine about it afterwards and, you know, we have conversations. I thought we were all right. And then we'd even hung out. And she said, yeah, yeah, we're good. And so when she left, she said she started dating a thigh and, and he left and went away and came back engaged and, or I left to a friend and came back and she was engaged.

And I was like, what is happening right now? I have no idea what's going on And then And then we ended up getting And set like in an argument And figured out that She was really hurt about About the thing with with Cichelle

I guess And then and then I'm going to ask her How she got engaged or something And and I was like Well I need to know that you got engaged To ask you about how it happened And also it's not like new for her It's not like she's been engaged a bunch of times

No? She's been engaged a couple times. I'm no one to talk. Right, I was going to say. I was going to say. I can't put it out for anybody. I'd be kind of a hypocrite if I did.

I was going to say there was a difference between, I mean, a little bit between, you know, the first time it ever happens and then maybe settling down in the future. I mean, you didn't make a huge deal about your engagement. I told everybody. Yeah. And everybody else knew. And like she didn't tell me. And it'd been a while she'd like been, I don't know, it's just weird how it happened.

And I'm still, I've never been mad about it. I just wish I would have known that there was something going on that she had, you know, some harsh feelings or unresolved issues so that we could fix them. She had a thing with Kishel from the beginning. Like, who's this new bitch? Like, let me vet her. Let me like haze her, whatever. And then defending you, I feel like, which like you said, it was kind of exaggeratory because, yeah, She did ask maybe questions in like a gossipy sense.

But, I mean, there are two aspects to that. A, like, who doesn't want to like know a little bit of T? And B, you're on a reality show. I mean, look at all the reality shows. I mean, people ask questions or say, did you hear what she said to him? I mean, it's not that big of a deal. And Christine, on one hand, you can say, wow,

what an amazing friend. Because she was like so gung-ho about it. But at the same time, she really humiliated Chriselle. at that, you know, at the pool party, it was hard to watch. It's not like you were like, Christine, shut the fuck up, you were kind of like, you just hugged Chriselle, right?

And you were like, yeah. Yeah, I think I, I mean, I can't remember if it was, it's been so long. I can't remember if it was actually in the show or not, but we were sitting here, I think it was Maya and me and Brett, and I was hugging

Chrisel and I was like, just enough. I know, this is too much. I was like, you need to do. chill and a bunch of us were and this whole thing happened so much bigger than what the show even even shows everyone was just i think shocked i mean we were all just standing or not on what to do we're like what it's happening they've never gotten along and i don't know why they're just two very different people they rub each other the wrong way and i mean no everyone doesn't have to be friends but i mean you just have to treat each other professionally we work in the same

office. We work together. You have to see each other with respect at least. You don't have to like each other, but disrespect. And you became really close with Griselle, right? Like in real life. And you invited her to the second bachelorette. I didn't invite anybody abandoned as much. My sister was coming in town for my wedding and we were planning to do something, but then we ended up doing the other bachelorette party. Like, so, filming and stuff to be there and all the cats to be there. Except that we did that one. And then we're like, well, it's stupid to have two.

And so Amanda's like, here, your sister's in town. She's like, well, I'll just have like a couple people come over. It's no drama. And we'll just hang out and get drunk. I was like, okay, cool. Well, the last minute, this was really the day of. She had this girl come in and give us pole dancing lessons. And we like just ordered delivery for food and just sat there and, you know, drank.

And I actually was the first one to go to bed because I had a showing the next morning because all the guys were in Vegas. And so I was trying to cover all of their climbs and stuff while they were gone. It really was like a kind of an impromptu kind of thing. So did that feel like out of left field? Like I'm trying to understand Christine's motivations a little bit

because was there any part of you that felt like the Chrisel thing was maybe a little bit for show? and then this too when you're like not really vibing and she knows it wasn't like a bachelorette like you didn't hop on a jet to Vegas you did something chill like did it feel like she was kind of over exaggerating things maybe because of the show or something like that it's possible a big personality and so and so sometimes I think she does do that I don't think she's a bad person she just I think sometimes she does that and then it's like what are the people like that you're doing it to you're supposed to do with that in it's like yeah yeah because this is real life it's

not a scene it's not I mean we call it a scene like because of the um the show and stuff but it's like our real life so so it's just it's hard to I don't know it's hard to figure it out and I just I don't have time and I don't like arguing and so I just haven't really addressed anything um we haven't really seen each other too much and and I always always love her um and hopefully we get our relationship back, you know, closer to what it was. But right now, it's just, we don't talk too much. That is kind of sad. And, you know, when, when, when Romaine proposed to you, there was that whole weirdness and, you know, whispering going on about like the type of ring. A, is, has it been, is there a diamond now that people want to know? Yeah. Yeah. There's a diamond, wedding band and a

diamond. He got me one. I don't know when it was. Maybe a year ago. like that. So when he got you, what is it even called? Um, with night. First of all, you are so, I mean, for me watching you, it's like, you know, you're selling these million dollar homes. You're working in this industry and meeting these

people that are multi, multi, you know, millionaires. Seems like the rest of your castmates are dating people at that level. Just you come across so humble, like also in your success and like not being showy about that. And I mean, we see like,

your commission. So like, obviously you're doing very well. And second of all, by, you know, your fiance, who isn't billionaire on the show. And also you being so down to earth when you keep proposes with not a diamond. Money helps, but it doesn't buy happiness. Like, you can have a big hunker on your hand. And it does not mean you've got a good man by your side. A hundred percent. And good men are very hard to find. I would rather have someone that's very loyal, that I can trust, that I truly love instead of something sparkling on my hand. It's just, I want something real. That's really amazing because I think that you're a person that's like that, but then your environment didn't change you, which is probably hard to escape

when, when, when, I mean, even given your, I was going to say castmates, but your co-workers and castmates' reactions, you can tell like the differences that you weren't even focused on that like on what type of ring it was you were focused on the sentiment which you should have been right yeah and they were practiced on that i don't know maybe it was just my upbringing and being from i was raised in indiana and then dealing with my son i mean having him at such a young age and then i'm older than a lot of the girls and and i just want different things i don't know i've been married before and i know like what i want what i don't want and i just don't want to fake it with anybody. I want someone real by my side. That's a rock and that I'm in love with.

So if that means, you know, he's not a billionaire, fine. We're both hustlers. Yeah. And work so hard. And he honestly, people thinking it's like, no money, he's still a Patriot stuff. He's not. He is a project manager. He came over here as a Patriot stuff. He's a project manager in construction for all of our new listings and any remodels and stuff like that. And so we're going to from flipping home since that's cool yeah he worked yeah he started he actually did jason's house the one that was on the show he was doing his house just no one never focuses on that they just assume he's still a pastry chef and we don't feel like we have to defend ourselves much time so we're like okay yeah apparently he's a fisher chef i don't know so you met because he was coming

he came from from france for like a trip no so he came over he was coming over to work he was a pay his chief. He lived in, he's from Paris, or outside of Paris, and worked in Australia for a while for two years. Doing it there, did really well there, and then he got a job offer to come to LA to do it. And he did, it didn't really work out with that, but that's how I met him. And so, and the payover here is not, is not what it is in France. I mean, it's a, it's something that people really, some people aspire to be over there. And here it's like, it's like in a, like in the bakery, it's like anybody, anybody can do it. It's not a specialty.

And so he was like, no, this isn't, this isn't what I, what I thought it was going to be. And so, yeah, he got into this and he's really good at it, loves it. He's going to get his D.C. license. And we're going to start looking home to. What, what license is that? D.C. General contractor. Oh, wow. And you can, so that's something that he's, he learned like on the job and he just has to get his,

his license for? Yeah. So, yeah, so he knows a lot. You guys love mixing that business and pleasure.

I know. None of us can get away from each other. I mean, I've got my clients calling him. I've got four new listings

and two of them are like doing some remodels. He's involved in both of them before we list. And then he's doing a couple other people.

I'm so happy that you guys are like, you know, married life is treating you well. Yeah. we're happy you know we haven't really got to see each other as much as is a lot of other people that are all quarantines because neither of us have really had to quarantine that much both are essential businesses um so i think mine was only in quarantine for about two weeks or something or maybe one

week and then they said we could do it with a mask gloves but are people are people buying homes though like in corona times oh yeah stop oh yeah really i i am the busiest i've ever been i'm Like right before this, I'm looking up to getting an assistant. I am going to lose business if I don't have people handling my personal life and then other aspects. I'm like, unswomened. That's insane. In New York, it doesn't feel that way, at least from the little that I know, because

it's been so crazy people are running away from New York. You know what I mean? It might mean I'm going to get even busier because we've heard a lot of people say they're thinking of moving from New York out to L.A. now after this whole thing, they're like, we don't want to be on top of each time. Yeah, because that's what, I mean, from the beginning of quarantine, I've been jealous of seeing people, you know, not in apartments, but in homes.

And, you know, you don't have to take the elevator and ride with a mask and all that shit. But another important thing I wanted to ask about Romaine is how upset he got with Davina. Because justifiable. Like she, like you said, Cichelle asked a question, but Davina was like kind of talking not nicely

about your relationship. She attacks his integrity, who he is, is a man. And the ring, I mean, have a ring on your finger before you start putting down other people. Like, you know, he is not cool with that. He does not like her. He is still to this very adamant.

He's, yeah. He is very strong opinion about that. Yeah. And it has very strong opinions. And he's stubborn. I mean, you can't bruise a man's eagle like that. And back to get away with it. so he like knew word for word what how did how did he find out like exactly what she said because

it seemed like he really when we watched it back we didn't know she kept saying stuff to me personally that chriselle was talking about about him and and so it was like it just doesn't seem like her and so i didn't really believe it but then and then we watched and and i was like oh wait a minute that's not exactly what i heard happened no he neither of us were mad or upset or anything at the time until we watched season one and then we were like, okay? It probably feels so weird to be mad in like such retrospect, you know?

Because you're like, it's, it's, you're, you watch the show months later and you're like, fuck, like I didn't know that and you don't want to be petty but like that should happen and you have to like confront the person about something that happened so long ago. I'm not one to really like get mad

and like yell at somebody about something. So I mean, I don't like. I understand where he's coming from and I will choose to keep that in the back of my head and know who people are and make my decisions going forward accordingly. Were you closer with her before that happened

or were you never that close? No, we've never really been close. But we sat next to each other in the office. So we would talk. I mean, to be honest, she seemed from the beginning, I was like, wow, Davina's a pitch. Like she comes off very, because, you know, if you're on TV,

you can be a bitch but have like redeeming kind of qualities that make you a boss bitch or make you a... Like Christine, where it's like she can do stuff, but people still love her. You know, it's like she's... Christina's like a...

She's something, you know, different. But with Davina, it felt like the only thing that's coming across from her is kind of her being not supportive. Negativity. Yeah, her being not supportive of the other women and her, nothing. which I feel bad for her if

if she has other sides to where I'm sure that didn't come across but on the show it came across that way and then seeing Romaine you know dudes usually like to stay out of drama and you can kind of tell that Romaine is like that too but she

rubbed him she attacked his integrity and his character is a man and that is very very important to him he's one of like most hardworking legit trustworthy just like guys I've ever met, especially at his age. It's like, it's unheard of.

And so he prides himself on that. And so when she directly attacked him, not just to a friend or two, to the world, to where he got so much hate on social media because of lies that she thought. I don't respond to negativity on our sites or anything, hardly ever. But that was one where I would stand up for him.

I was like, you can attack me, but do not attack. him for something that that's not who he is. So I would actually try to explain it. It's just unfair to him. He came on the show for me. And then he gets attacked for something he didn't do.

So, yeah, it wasn't really fair. But I think he earned the love back this season. And people got to see more of who he is. He has a big voice. He's not mute. Listen, my husband is foreign too. so in Hebrew he will speak a lot and be you know when some and the language isn't your first language and you're on TV it's understandable that you're not going to be chatting up a storm you know

so I'm the first one to understand that and then when you're nervous too because we weren't used to cameras and like in the first couple of scenes it was so funny I didn't realize I was that nervous but I would pick up my glass and my hands going like shaking and I was like I didn't even feel nervous, but I just wasn't used to cameras being there. And I wasn't, I wasn't used to thinking about, about stuff and what am I getting the right way and stuff? And now I just, you know, when you know the cameras are there, don't put you back to it. I mean, but now, now season two got got so much easier where we just forget they're there. And then season three, which we can't freaking wait for.

Can you give us any? I mean, we all saw the promo, which is like so exciting. It's so crispy. Can you tell me what we have to look forward to a little bit in season three? You're going to see about every single one of us. We have ups and downs in our personal lives

in relationships. Romaine and I explore. Well, we definitely have a couple ups and downs. And then a bunch of amazing, amazing homes. That's exciting. That's so, wait, August what? weddings, you get divorces, you get, you get everything. Oh, right, Chrischelle, more weddings.

Hmm. I'm so excited. So when, when does it come out? August, what? August 7th. August 7th, you guys, mark your calendars for selling sunset, season 3. I can't freaking wait. Mary, thank you so much for coming on.

Oh, my pleasure. You're awesome. You're awesome. I'm sorry for all the technical drama. So on Instagram, is it Mary Fitzgerald? The Mary Fitzgerald. The Mary Fitzgerald. Mary Fitzgerald.

And do you have Twitter or anything else that you're TikTok? Are you TikTok? I don't. I have no. I have no idea how to do it. And I'm, I am the worst at social media. I do everything from,

from Instagram and put it over to the other ones. Because I'm like, who has time to do each individual one separately? Well, Instagram is the best anyway. So don't worry about it. I know that. I am on Facebook and Twitter. I don't know my handles.

But you guys, Instagram, Mary Fitzgerald. Season 3 of Selling Sunset, August 7th. Legit can't wait. Mary, thank you so much. You're amazing. My pleasure. Thank you. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny, but Not Fat. If you don't already, follow me on Instagram at No Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast. We don't miss any episodes. Click on five stars to

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