Not Skinny But Not Fat - (She’s) Too Hot to Handle w/ Francesca Farago

Episode Date: July 14, 2020

Yep, at 8 months pregnant I decided to treat my self-confidence by Zooming w/ Francesca Farago from Netflix’s “Too Hot to Handle.” Great idea Amanda! The Insta model turned reality TV star turned HUGE influencer spills all re: her time on the show, her move to LA, the deal with Youtuber Tana Mongeau and Jersey Shore’s Vinny Guadagnino??? Frankie (yeah we’re friends now so I can call her that) and she breaks down about her split from Harry (whoops!) then shares her current and upcoming ventures. Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. Okay, you guys, I don't know how I'm doing this to myself right now because I'm eight months pregnant and I'm sitting here across from Francesco, Francesco, see, eight months pregnant, Francesca Farago, the gorgeous Francesco Ferrago, Frankie, can I call you Frankie? Of course, you're eight months pregnant? Yeah. You look stunning. Oh, you're so cute.

I'm like, don't feel it, though. You know, it's like one of those things. It's one of those things. And then I'm like, and I'm doing a Zoom with Francesca. Like, what about my confidence? Give me a break. No, I'm just kidding. But it's great to see you.

You look great. The bangs are gone. There were bangs for a minute. I don't really know. I was supposed to have a hair appointment today. And the hair lady's dog got sick. And then I had to bail last week because I wanted to get COVID tested. And it's just like a mess.

Like, I don't even have a blow dryer at my place yet. So I don't really know what's going on. Like, they're kind of still there. I like it like that. But let's talk about this. I mean, you said so many important things just in that sentence. Like, one, you took a COVID test. Good two, yeah, in a week.

Because you want to fly back to Vancouver? No, I went to a party and I wanted to be safe after. So I got COVID tested after that. And then I woke up the other day with a sore throat. I was like, uh-oh. So I got, I got tested again and both of them were negative. So either I'm invincible or I was lucky because I for sure I thought I had it.

I've been taking a lot of Uber's too. Are you being careful though? Are you wearing a mask? I'm wearing a mask, but I really wanted to go to a friend's birthday party. I shouldn't have went. But people were, like I was trying to stay kind of in my own little bubble and people would come up

and like try and hug me and I'd be like, like, no, don't touch me. But I just acted at the party until I got tested and got negative. I like stayed inside. Oh, good. you. I mean, if you got already to Corona, like, COVID tests, I mean, you have a little bit out of, like, health anxiety? Are you, like, a hypochondriac a little bit? I've actually been tested

six times in total, but I just, I don't want to spread it. Like, that's my fear is, like, hanging out with my friends and giving it to them. If I get tested and I'm negative, then I'm not, like, crazy about it. I just, like, I would feel so bad if I gave it to someone. Yeah, it's hard to maneuver this time like know that you're doing the right thing or not or like you hang out with people and then you the next day you're like oh should I have hung out with them and oh my god I ate from the same bowl of chips and like because I mean at the end of day it's so hard to not see people and and be to like the people that you are seeing for them to know like what your day to day is you're going to appointments another person is you know working and then you see each other

and you trust that person's being safe but What if they saw? It's just in L.A. You're in L.A. right now, right? I did move. Yeah. I've been here for, I think, almost a month. Is that your first time living away from Canada?

I lived in Thailand for a little bit when I was younger and I've traveled for like months at a time. But this is my first time like situating in a different state. I guess, no, I lived in Bangkok for a bit. But yeah, in the States is my first time like living. Canadian in the state. How does that work? I wanted to stay for six months.

I don't have health care, but I do have like my bikini brand businesses here. so I was able to get over the border because I'm coming for business. So after six months, I have to go home but that I can come back. Because I know they're not doing any visas right now. Wait, didn't Trump stop like a certain work visa? I'm not working.

I'm like providing jobs. Oh, yeah. It's like a different category. So how did you decide to move to move to L.A.? It seemed like I feel like I'm too hot to handle when you talked about, you know, Canada and going home after. it sort of felt like you didn't have plans to move. Originally decided to use California for my bikini brand

because I wanted to be close to Harry. I decided to move here when him and I were still together. It was kind of too late for me to change my plans. And I didn't want to be in L.A. I have a lot of friends here. And I just thought it would be good for my brand and my business and networking and stuff like that. But I don't know if I want to live here for good.

Like I would like to be closer to the East Coast where my family is. So, like, New York or Toronto. I do love British Columbia, but as I'm getting older, like, you realize, like, family is really important. Wait, so you're not originally from Vancouver? No. Because they use that on the show. They use that Vancouver under my name or whatever, but I'm from Ontario.

So your family's in Ontario, and so why did you move to the west, I get, right? Vancouver is, like, the west of Canada? It gets to the point where you can't even go outside for, like, six months. It's, like, a blizzard. and I just wasn't feeling the weather and I wanted to be closer to L.A. but still live in Canada and Vancouver is so beautiful.

The weather is really nice. It doesn't get cold in the winter. It doesn't know. It sounds like once year. So that was just like, it was mainly the weather that attracted me and I moved with a boyfriend and we lived together for a bit to park out.

And it was just really easy as well being close to L.A. I wanted to ask you because I saw on your Instagram before you started and you said your appointment ran long. What was that appointment? like what was on your butt? I'm doing this like muscle treatment and they pushed it half an hour

and then by the time I got there it was like 45 minutes and then they were making me weight and then but it's basically like I've been posting it all my stories it's like it's like a magnet and it sits on your booty or your abs I tried with the booty part

because I heard about it and I was talking about the clinic about working with them so it's a big muscle you put the magnet on your booty and it like it goes and it like makes your muscle contract. So it's like a workout without working out? It's like a workout

but you just lay there. So I also haven't had time to work out. I've been so busy. I don't even have time to stay. So when this opportunity came up, I was like oh yeah, like I might as well try it. And I'm obviously like letting my followers know like I don't want to be like oh yeah like I've been working out because I have it, you know. But it doesn't

sound like dangerous. It sounds like it can't be harmful. No, I don't think so. I don't think that they would do something. It's like on you and it's like like vibrating you or whatever. So it doesn't sound like scary even. No, it's not scary. I think it literally just like there's those at home app machines now that you see that the influencers like keep to the stomach. And it's like basically like a machine version of those. It squeezes your muscles for like half an hour. So it like tone the area. But I think it's like I think it's like a small kind of difference. Is your body so hot too hot to handle being cheesy because you like work out so much or like make us feel better and say like

I don't know you were born with it and you were just hashtag blessed before the show and after the show up until literally up until the show came out which is in April I worked out every day every other day like I lived in heavyweight that was my routine but since the show came out I haven't I've been going through a lot emotionally as well and for me when I'm going through stress I can't really like eat properly and I can't really work out. I can't get into that mindset. So for the past few months, I haven't been working out.

And then I kind of, like I knew if I didn't go, if I went like a few weeks ago working out my body, we'd kind of supposed to stay the same. I would just lose a little bit of muscle. So it's definitely genetics. Like people like, oh,

how do I get your weight? I'm like, like my mom. Like, I don't know. Like, I mean, that's better though.

That's better. I feel like that's, I mean, you're being honest. And, and I feel like that makes me feel better. You know, like you got it from your mama. If I went a full year without working out and just eating healthy,

I would say the way I look now. Like you would probably feel, you would probably feel like, oh, I'm less toned, but the outside world would be like the same. We would think like you're hot and that's it. Yeah. It's really hard for me to gain weight.

It's always been really hard. Okay, now you're just being annoying. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. So you move to L.A. And I have to, I mean, we'll go back. We'll start from like,

present day and back. You've been like in the headlines and first of all, you have your bikini, your bikini line. Fargo the label. The designs look amazing when I don't have this giant belly. I'll definitely check it out. I saw that like some outlets were like comparing it to I'm going to call her Amoretta because I never use her full name. Emerita. Yeah. I asked my followers how they say it one time. I'm like, does everyone, Does anyone call Emily Rada Chowice by her, like, full name, or they just call her Emrata? So I saw randomly a few articles that were comparing kind of your line to hers.

Did you see that? I didn't see these, no. But, I mean, it makes sense. Like, I thought, so when I was coming up with the designs, like, a year ago, I picked my favorite pieces that I saw online, like, everywhere, and I, like, mesh them all together. So hers was a lot of my inspo. and then I used ones that I already had that I liked and I like use like parts of each of them

and pick like my favorite thing about all the swim and then combine them. So the art pieces of her that were like massive into like the top of her front ties were really cute so I added that to my one piece but she has like I think hers is like five or six of them and mine only has two and then it has like a different top

and then I really like the draw strings but are there different hers is only one on the side, mine's two as well and then her tops kind of go like this and might kind of are more like just triangles. like they're definitely similarities because she was a lot of my inspiration but I remember when I first saw her designs too

like people were hating on her for her copying someone as well because you get inspired yeah it's not the exact same like if they're like if you pick parts of them that you like mix and match and change it to your own style I think I think that's okay imagine you had your designs to wear there it would be like you probably thought about it after you're like

I could have been a walking ad I won't forget you came up to the beach and you were like wearing that like black thing and it was just like, you looked amazing. You were the hottest contestant and the most, I think, sought after. Even though I was trying to think about it today, and I was trying to remember,

did you end up hooking up with Corey? Or was it just a date? I just went on a date with him. And with Kells, you kind of, like, made out a little. We went into the shower. We went into the shower and, like, filled each other up. And, like, looked at each other's genitals. Wait, so you have to tell me.

So you're in Vancouver. You're already, like, an influencer right like on Instagram like a little influence there only had like 300,000 followers. Oh my god, you guys just to like make things clear. You're saying you had 300k and post too hot to handle 5 million almost. Did you have any idea? First of all

can you tell me it? Because I saw like 30,000 people or something auditioned to be on too hot to handle. Was it did someone like reach out to you like on Instagram? Like how did that kind of happen? Yeah. They They DM'd me. I was traveling at the time and I remember I was somber and I was in my room

and I was like, oh, let's just check my DMs today. And I was going through and then I saw one that kind of looked interesting and she was like, oh, we have a show. We think he'd be great for. Like, it's filming in a month. Like, we'd love to set up a call and then three calls later

and I was like flying like so. How did they present it to you? They just said it was a twist on a TV show. It was like kind of dating, but I don't really remember too so long ago, but they told me that I needed to be single and it was going to be somewhere tropical and there was going to be

a lot of attractive people there and it was like a weird twist and I was like okay like influencer island is what I thought. Everyone's going to be an influencer. They're going to wear cell phones. They're going to make them make fires and like that's what I thought. Like naked in the wild but influence this in the wild. So you actually found out about the twist there? Yeah. I didn't even know there was prize money until like two days before. I mean let's be honest the prize money was bullshit. The grand total was like $10,000. Yeah, it was like $7,500 each after we also put it. I mean, if you think about it, though, $7,500 for a month of like a crazy experience

that you're never going to experience in their life. Like, I would have done it for free. And everyone on the cast went there not knowing they were going to win money. So that's when they were being so salty about the money. I'm like, first of all, you came here and not knowing any money. Second of all, you don't even know if you're going to get the money. Like, everyone was being so selfish about the money. And I'm like, either way, after the show comes out, $7,500 is going to be.

nothing because it's on Netflix. It's going to make your career better anyway. That just shows you like I watched. Do you watch any reality TV like Bravo? Anything like that? Before I left for filming, my friends told me to watch Love Island. So I watched like a few episodes of that. And I was like, oh my God, I hope it's not like that.

I haven't watched that. But when I was watching Too Hot to Handle, a lot of people were like, oh, my God, you need to watch Love Island next. It's like the same vibe. Netflix is insane because it. it's it's worldwide you know it's not like a cable channel or a whatever the fuck like it got you exposed because i watched these reality shows on other networks and and people can be on seasons upon seasons of shows and you know in terms of like followers they'll get to like a million

but i mean your growth was like insane did you have any idea going into it aside from like you said you knew it could like help a career or something did you have any idea like how much I remember the therapist that we had on the show that would help us if we got like after filming he came to me and he's like because I was like crying because I was like I went through a really hard time and it was really hard to be like

everyone to exile me and he was like no it would be worth it like just think about like it's just so worth it and he told me that he thought I was going to gain $3 million a therapist that's what he told me and I was like there's no way like I watched The Bachelor like those people only gave me one or like two

but then like after like two weeks I was up three and I was like you're right but it's crazy because like me compared to the other cast like oh I didn't look at their stuff what did they get to like a million I think there's two of them that got to a million do you think they're super gel

I literally hate them they're so mean to me still like they're so mean to me it's ridiculous I don't really say anything bad about them wait you're friends with Haley still no Haley I love who do you hate the guy So I'm friends with Bryce And I'm friends with Madison as well

Me and Madison He had a mutual ex-Herry We bonded over that Everyone else like Goes out of their way To like be really neat Wait Madison from the show Dated Harry

When? When him and I broke up for a period of time And she's your friend How does that work? We're friends because we bonded About how much he sucked Wait, I just realized Because you said that in kind of passing

It was a month I thought filming was much less time A month is a lot. I got there like very end of March and we were there till very end of April. And that's why when I go back when I was like, I'm in love. Like my sister was like, no, you're not. I'm like, bro, we live together for a full month, no cell phone, no television. We went to the craziest experience together.

Like personally, I fell in love. Like if you're dating in the real world, you see each other every few days. You go on a few dates and it's like a few hours at a time. But this was like 24 hours, seven days a week for like four weeks. I think that with you and like why. you know, your growth happened that way, like, you know, and also why people liked you and you stood out is because, like, aside from your, your looks, like, there were, like, the show, and I'm sure there were more real moments and, like, who showed who you are as a person,

but in, even though the show was based on, like, such a shallow concept, you know what I mean? Such a sexual, like, shallow thing. There, you did have, like, really good moments. showed that you were like a cool chick, you know what I mean? First of all, you said first you hate everyone and now I find out, okay, Haley's your best friend. Madison, you're cool with Bryce, which I felt so bad because I kind of like not hated on Bryce, but like when they, I feel like his intro was like he's this giant playboy and it kind of seemed like not. Do you know what I mean?

I'm like, is he? I think there was a lot of people that. act in certain ways for the cameras and you could definitely tell and I feel like that's why a lot of people kind of weren't relatable and I think Bryce was I love him. In normal life he's great but on the show he was

he probably regrets it a little bit portraying himself and a certain but when he came on he didn't know what the show was about so he's like yeah I sleep around like he obviously I probably regret saying that because like he is a humble nice guy I think I could tell there was one episode where he did convey like

I don't know maybe like that he used to be heavier. I don't remember. Or something. And I was like, oh, my God, this is all like, you can tell that like it was kind of not who we really is. So wait. So who do you hate? Kells? All right. Charon, Rhonda. Harry, obviously, Nicole. So again, people need to understand this was a month. It wasn't a week. So obviously, like, you know, we watch The Bachelor and people say, I think I'm falling in love with you. And it's like this whole thing. So it's not weird that you would be on a resort all day, every day with someone. I think it was just because the show didn't focus on like the depth of the relationship

but rather on like, can you not give a blowjob? Which, by the way, let's talk about that for a minute, Frankie, because the fact that you couldn't resist doing that, like put a lot of girls in, you know, an awkward spot. You know what I mean? It's like, we try to like avoid it and you're like, you couldn't resist. You were willing to lose money to do it. The day that that happened, all right. So after the day with Corey, they gave me a bottle of tequila.

We were deprived of alcohol. So you give me a bottle of tequila on weeks of deprived of alcohol. I'm going to drink it. So I was doing shots. They didn't show, but I was like pretty tipsy. And you can kind of tell when I go into the confessional after, I'm like, eh, Corey, vegan. I'm talking about like vegan food.

I'm trying to compare them. My eyes are like basically closed. like you can tell I was a little buzz and then I went back up and I saw Harry and was so sad. We're like cuddling and we were being cute and we told each other that we loved each other and I thought that I could just, I thought that I could get away with it.

But that's what you wanted to get away with? Like you didn't rather get away with like just having sex with him already? I thought that if I just like went under like briefly and like a little sneaky that I would have got. But I was also pretty tipsy. Like I of course could have resisted but like he was sad we said I loved you and it was a really cute moment

and the date was really hard and Collie just bitched me and I just in the moment that's just what I felt like doing. Wait, now it makes sense. Now it makes sense because you did it after the date with Corey so you like felt kind of bad. So you were like, that was your like, I'm sorry for going on the date kind of.

Yeah. And we also told each other that we loved each other for the first time like it was like two minutes prior to when that happened. it was just like a very emotional Wait first of all Why the fuck would they deprive you of alcohol I would think that they would want you to get drunk

If we were drunk like we would have all not cared about They didn't really show it as much But there was other people there that didn't care about the money either Like Sharon did not see they fly fuck Like they made him seem like whatever But you could tell he was trying to hook up with Ronda the whole time He was trying to hook up with me and Haley the whole time Like they didn't show his dog side at all

And neither of Ronda's like there was a there was times where there was a few people that were like fuck the money and they didn't they made it just focused on me saying fuck the money but it wasn't just me like i feel like that you said fuck the money like we're happy you said fuck the money you know yeah for sure like for sure i'm happy i said you know stand out on the show and be like we said like the money at the end of the day isn't like if it was like you'll get kicked off if you fuck up then then you would probably care about it more yeah or if it was like a million dollars split and it was 100k each, then it would have been a different story for sure. It seemed like you didn't come for the money, but it seemed like Kells got confused and acted like it was like a game show. Like, what are you doing? Why are you taking it so seriously? There was times where he wasn't taking it seriously either. He definitely took on that role and felt like that role was important for his character. But I don't know. I think that goes again with people just not really being genuine.

You meet Harry, you guys are, like, in love, which was super cute. You thought he was, like, the hottest thing alive. I mean, I have to be honest, like, he, obviously, like, he's a good looking guy, but sometimes I was like, I feel like Francesca is, like, exaggerating a little bit that he's, like, you really were speaking of him as if he's, like, Brad Pitt. And, like, he has, like, a baby face still kind of, you know, like, he's younger, right? He's 23. He's also 6'5.

that I think he proves to the entire world that you can be average but if you're tall you're just a god like he's a giant so I think that that was like the first thing that I was like he was like powered over me so that was like I thought that was really hot and I don't know I was definitely blind to a lot of massive red flag

I was infatuated and it turned into love which is so crazy because the person I fell in love with is not the person that I thought he was because it did seem like oh, this guy who might not seem like he's super ready to settle down, whatever. He's also younger, right? He's like 23 or 24. He just turned 23 in May.

Right. So that's like young for a dude. But you're like, oh my God, you can tell. I mean, you could tell even if it's hard for you to maybe say that now, that on the show, his feelings for you were genuine and that he did also like fall. And even though he's a 23-year-old 6-5 dude who could probably do whatever the fuck he wants, it seemed like he did want only you. You need an older, you need an older dude.

For sure. The age cap is a girl, who knows. Yeah. Okay. Thank you for the transition, Francesca. Because I'm not a TikTok. Do you have your own TikTok account? Yeah, of course.

Tana Manjou, which I had to look up how to pronounce her last name, you guys, for real. Dated Bella, Thorne, and also was like half married to like Jake Paul or something. You're hanging out. with her and you were seeing going to dinner like hand in hand and now TikTok videos that were like so sexual what's going on her TikToks are really funny because we're just like drinking and she has an idea and we just film it but yeah we're hanging out I just met her more recently so we're just like seeing where it goes you know getting to know each other so it might be like that kind of like a like more of a romantic rather than like friendshipy thing yeah we just met so

we're going to get to know each other how did you meet on like Instagram I'm telling you guys Instagram is like the best You don't need a dating app You just slide on Into people I'm sure do I mean you don't have to tell me who

But do you get like DM sliders that are like Hmm Like interesting I'm not talking about common folk I'm talking about like verified Something good Like those kind of guys

Honestly I usually ignore them Yeah and I downloaded a dating app For like celebrities It's called Raya and I was on it for like a week. I feel like I'm really focused on myself right now and growing my brand and my business. And there's still hairy drama lingering.

And I like getting to know Tana. So the DMs, like, I don't know. I just kind of ignore them for now. Like maybe in a little bit if I'm more ready. I saw that you're like comment flirting with Vinny from Jersey Shore. What is up with that? What did you think we wouldn't notice? He's super cool.

So is that again like an Insta like thing? Like have you ever met him? No. So Snooki started following me and she was commenting on my photos and I messaged her and I was like, can we be friends? And she's like, yeah, I actually have a friend of mine who thinks he started the conversation between you and I. So I've never met him, but we're just friends like just talking casually. This world is so crazy, you guys. He's like me in guy form. It's weird. Like he's just hilarious and very chill and he's 32. So it's nice to have people around me that seem very genuine and very nice. So you don't regret like,

like, move, because you said before that the move was kind of based around Harry. So you don't regret that because you're enjoying your time and you're meeting new people and stuff like that. It would be harder for me to cope with it if I wasn't here, a whole breakup. Like even though we're in the same city, I know we're not going to run into each other. I won't allow it to rest around into each other. It's easier to be here. And like, like, if I was in Vancouver and he was here, I just, it would be harder.

I really hope that you get to a place with your breakup that it's like, a chiller one. It sounds like it's like heavy. There's just a lot that happened and we haven't spoken or like talked about anything that that came up. So it's like a lot of like animosity and rumors and hate and betrayal and all that combined and it's hard because it's very public as well. And there's a lot of stuff that wasn't shown to the public. But it's hard to like not be like you're torn between like being a good person but then also being kind of shady on. line towards that person. Like for me, like, I throw a little bit of shade, but I want to be like a better person. That's what I'm saying. Like, on one hand, like, even, let's say in this interview,

it's like, by the little digs, I'm like, okay, something, something bad and, and shitty happen there. But at the same time, you know, we're not going to get into what exactly and all those things. But I really hope that, uh, you get to like a good place with it and you put it behind you and that you find something that makes you happy for the long term. I want to be eight months pregnant. No, you don't. You're so... I do too.

Come on. I want a pop baby, though. I mean, yeah. My husband was already like, because I was like, I'm a baby still. He's like, you're really like, not. I was like, I want to be a young mom. He's like, you're not a young mom anymore. So, um...

Is this your first? Yeah. It's so exciting. Yeah. I'm so excited for you. It is. that's so sweet it is exciting it's just now I'm like because when you're pregnant at the beginning you're like okay I'm pregnant like this is the vibe but then you realize that a baby comes after

and then you have to start dealing with like there's one thing being pregnant and and there's one thing like having having a little baby but enjoy this fucking time of you know having your your moment and succeeding and having your brand and everything but you know what's weird Netflix the other day came out with like a list of shows that they're renewing a few that I was excited about, which is love is blind, dead to me. And I was like, where the fuck is you out to handle? I know they were casting for season two, but then they stopped because of COVID. And I think they're casting for season two right now.

I heard of some people being like, oh, we're getting casted to be on a Netflix show. And they're like telling me the series. And I was like, because obviously they can't tell the people. They have to be like, oh, it's this. And then like, drop the ball. So you don't regret it, though, with everything that went down, like you would do it all over. you would go, you would... The thought of reliving it

makes me want to vomit, but I don't forget anything on the show. Like, that was a lot of it was hard, and I don't think I would ever do it again, but it was a beautiful experience. And I just regret, like, being more, maybe being naive, I think that's what I regret. And then when I'm 26, I shouldn't be so naive.

I shouldn't be so nice. I wonder if they would, like, why you back on the show now that you're, well, half single, whatever you are, if they would be, like, come back. You're not going to get the same. experience the second time. And I feel like I learn so much about myself on the show

in regards to, like, growing personally, that I don't need to learn anymore. Like, I feel like I'm happy. I'm always down to grow, but I'm happy with who I am and how I am and how I treat people and how I handle situations. I'm heartbroken. So I'm just not willing to, like, experience that again.

Would you go in any other show? Yeah. I would consider, I don't know if I would consider a dating show. It would need to be very enticing for me to consider it. because I'm literally traumatized, but I would do something with me and like, maybe Haley or like, who knows? So Haley, just to remind everyone,

Haley and Francesca, which I'm trying to think about it now, like, what were you got girls thinking? We were like, let's just make out so we'd just ruin it for no reason. Everybody hated me for no reason and everybody hated Haley because she was kind of being a little negative.

They didn't show how mean people were being to us. didn't show any of that like we were getting bashed every day and the hairy in the bed with ronda and when i was told that the boy he told the boys that i kissed him first in the room like that threw me over the edge and i was like fuck up that was so fucked up i remember that and you didn't even react so you were like you know when parents are like i'm not mad i'm disappointed like i would be like are you fucking kidding me and and you kind of held it together i didn't really know the extent of how shitty he was being to me until I watched the fact as well. Like, I didn't know that I saw he was in bed with her, but I didn't know what they were saying

until I watched. Why was he saying that? Why am I toxic? What did I do? So I was like, yeah, I couldn't, me and Haley just like, Haley didn't even want to be there. I hated everyone. They were being so mean. So we're just like, this is hilarious. Like, we're not going to tell a soul. Everyone's going to think it was someone else. Like, we're just going to sit back and watch. Like, let's like make them on their toes for once. It was so uncomfortable for her and I'd be there. It was immature, but I don't regret it because. it was funny and I would do it again. But at the time, I was like, wait, I think Haley's

like actually into this and you're thinking it's like a joke. I know she likes girls and I like girls as well, but yeah, they made her seem more like of a like more, she was more into me. Right. They made her seem like she was like kind of obsessed of you, which I'm assuming is annoying to be

on that side. We love each other, but it's definitely just like a caring friendship. Like always have each other's back. Well, that's good because at first when you said that you just moved to L.A. and I'm going to ask you if you moved alone because that's like a big, scary thing, but the fact that you moved in with her

probably makes it easier. I'm hearing and I broke up. I was like, I'm moving to L.A., like, I'm with me and she's like, okay, come on down. Is she from California or no? She's in Jacksonville, Florida. Oh, my God. You guys are so, just wing it.

Just go live in California. Like move to L.A., no prob. You're very honest about, like, injecting things, right? Like, Botox and filler and shit like that. But you're very very, very adamant and saying that you haven't done anything else. Everything I've done

I've been honest with. Like, I've done my boobs too. Right, the boobs. Because what did I read? I read that you said that people were like not believing you or something. That you were like, I got... A lot of people are finding photos. Well, there's photos of me in high school, like from my yearbook that

like you can tell that I had the same face. It's just like the lip fillers are noticeable. My nose looks the same. in the high school photos but I don't know people a lot of people think I have a nose job and a lot of people think like I get my jaw injected but I mean if I did I would be like

yes this is where I go like it changed my life but I can't own up to something I didn't do so you were saying you did you did your chin because your butt chin annoyed you I read right people would make fun of me for it but I didn't really think to ever do it until my first time getting my lips and she was like oh like do you want to fix that I was like yeah just because you said that

and then I've been doing it so it It's been like five years that I've been doing it. I'm sure a lot of butt-chin people would be offended by that lady who was like, do you want to fix that as if there's something wrong with it? A lot of people think it's really beautiful and always tell me to let the filler dissolve. But personally, like when I look at photos, I just like my face better with it, though, personally. Like maybe in the future, I'll let it come back. But, I mean, fillers aren't permanent.

They only last like six months. Right. And then Botox is like more keeping everything, which I never got because it's like your 26. Your skin is amazing. Like, what makes you feel like you, like my, like, you know, like, does, I mean I need it? When I was like 22, 23, I think. And I remember reading about something of being, oh, no, I was with my girlfriend, Erica, and we were, we lived together. And she saw an ad on group on her for Botox. And we were like, well, I think we were so hungover one day. We were just like, yeah, sure, let's go. Like, it was the same when her and I got our boob done.

And then we just got the Botas and the ladies like, yeah, I'm so glad you're starting now. Like it's preventative, like, la, la, la. So I just, I kept getting in it like here, like, pros feet. And then I do in my forehead. And sometimes if I want this, I would be a little bit higher up more here or here. And I don't know if I didn't get Botaps for like,

until it faded away. I don't know if I would have wrinkles because I've been getting it for so long. I don't want wrinkles. I mean, my mom doesn't really have any wrinkles. I think I'm good for the jeans on that too. Did your parents watch this show? you said you're really close with your family. Did they watch it?

Yeah. Yeah, they watched it. Was that weird? I think my dad like two weeks to watch it, but he didn't even have Instagram. He made an Instagram. He posted an Instagram of like him taking photos of the thing. Or I think he like set up self-timer or something.

And there's one photo where he's like watching it. But no one in my family or my friends said one negative thing. My dad was just like, you looked beautiful. Like good job. Like you're so funny. And my mom said the same thing. Like I told my sister to watch. it with my dad and skipped her in scenes.

But she said she did it. She was like, oh, we didn't do it. And I was like, you let him watch that? She's like, yeah. I'm like, uh, well, like none of them said, none of them said any bad things about me. And I know Rhonda filmed the YouTube and she said in the YouTube, if I did what Francesca did, I wouldn't have a dad.

She dead ass said that. And Haley was like, are you saying that I don't deserve to have a dad? Like, it was kind of rude. But my parents are chill and they're really strict growing up. and I wasn't allowed to be paying the house, but I think that they understand that I'm an adult now and make my own decisions, and it worked out for me. It's not like I was a massive floor.

Like, I didn't be myself, so. Yeah, and they didn't really show. I mean, they discussed that you, but again, like, the fact, you know, that you and Harry actually became a thing on the show and we're planning on it working outside the show. It's not like you were just doing it with every guy there and not giving a shit. So the end of the day, sometimes I wonder, like,

if in life things are as simple as, you know our parents used to tell us when we were younger when someone was mean to us it's like they're just being jealous yeah i think that's what it is because like after filming charon didn't talk to her once he was sitting up my roommate and they completely goes through so maybe that's what it is like i don't know but i i would never like be a bully like i think they're all the castes why i don't like them they're always like female empowerment like women stick together but then they're literally bullies. Like, they just treat me so poorly and treat Haley so poorly.

It's like, what do you mad about? Like, be mad that I'm more successful than you? Like, it's sorry that I'm genuine you or not. Like, but the end of the day, it's probably why and they, they can be upset about it. I mean, they can be like, shit, I didn't get out of it, what she got out of it. But at the end of the day, they can't point, you know, or project that onto you. But on social media with like your five million, you know, almost five million followers and are you getting mostly love and support?

Do you get any kind of like hate and gross stuff too? This is what I was most shocked about is like the love that I was receiving after because I was expecting it to be a lot more hate. I really was. But it's like 90% love like 10% hate and it's usually the hate is either about some people say that I look like Michael Jackson. I've heard that a few times. About like my lips look too big when I wear lipstick.

It's basically just in regards to my parents. it's not really, I haven't really heard, like maybe one or two out of like hundreds and thousands of people have been rude about like the sexual activity that I did on the show. Do you block people that are nasty? Yeah. If it's bad

and I look, if I see it and I look on their profile and they're not following me and they have like 100 followers. Like, you made this account to fucking troll is what you are doing. Yeah. TikTok's more savage because people are so savage on TikTok and I actually love it because I can say whatever I want on TikTok, but there's a lot more meaner comments on there,

but I feel like a lot of them now are basically just being like, Harry lost a queen, we named Harry. Wait, but so, so you're saying, did it surprise you that you were getting so much support from, from women? Like, let's say from men, okay, they're like trying to get, you know, they're, they're horny and they want to see photos of you. But was it shocking to you to get like love from, from women to, I'm assuming my followers are mostly women and stop I don't believe you there are 70% women I'm not kidding and I checked on my my my bikini brands page yesterday for the first time I've never checked it my bikini brand has 96% and I was like what like because my bikini page I post me in a bikini all the time you start to get offended you're like why aren't more men I'm going to be more men because like it just

for me like before the show came out it was like 80% men that followed me and now it's like 70% women which is crazy but it's just it's really humbling I think did that change your content because a lot of it is like you in a bikini and your perfect bud and like body did that did more women following you make you want to kind of try with other content too yeah I just wanted to be like a little bit more wholesome like I did a a collab with in the style and I did my own collection, and I wanted to do something that was for my audience, my target audience. They're all like younger girls. I was like, okay, butterflies, chat pants, cute things. I wanted to target it towards them. And before, I would never be posting some of the

wholesome stuff that I've been posting with when the show came out. Like, I was posting all this. Like, I throw in the random bikini picture, you know, the first shop every now and then will be my brand, but put out a little flavor. But I care less about what I post now, which is so weird, because before I would care so much. So how do you explain that? I would just spend hours looking at a photo and I would like spend hours like taking new photos and now I'm just more chill with it. I don't know why because you think because I have the more attention I would, it would bother me more like little flaws in a photo. But I feel like flaws are more relatable and not perfect content is more relatable. And maybe you feel like if before like you said it was mostly men and you knew why they were like coming to your pages to see these perfect photos of you and now you're like, wait, my audience kind of changed.

It's okay to be not perfect in every centimeter and that I'm, A, happy that you're getting support from other women. That makes me happy for just women, you know? And thank you so much for coming on. You're so sweet and so awesome. Thank you. You're so sweet. Did people call you Frankie or Francesca on the show? A lot of people called me Fran, but...

Who called you Fran? Everyone kept calling me Fran. I'm like, bro, it's not my name. I feel like Harry called you Franca. that I remember for sure. But on your Instagram, you write Frankie. Yeah,

my close friends are when you know me, you call me Frankie and I feel like when I introduce myself it's Francesca and then Frankie because I feel like if my friends call me Francesca like I either fucked up

or they're mad. Like if my mom or my sister call me Francesca, I'm like fuck. Or if my best friend texts me Francesca, I'm like, what?

Like what happened? You know, so it's like Frankie's like more casual and then Francesca's like pick up, your phone, like something happened or what the fuck you doing? Francesca, thank you for coming on.

It was so lovely to meet you and see you and hear that you're doing well and that you have your swimmer line and that you're on TikTok, Instagram. Are you on everywhere as Francesca? Now I'm going to say the name in the not right way. Francesca Fargo everywhere. Francesca Fargo everywhere. And we're going to be watching you and your flirtatious comments on Instagram that I outed, by the way.

You can blame me. I outed it yesterday. I was like, they're flurrected. in the comments, Francesca and Vinny. I'm going to text her to make it off of this. And we'll wait to see what happens with you next. Thank you. Have a good day.

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