Not Skinny But Not Fat - SKOURT VS KRAVIS W/ E!'s Justin Sylvester

Episode Date: April 27, 2021

Host of Daily Pop on E!, Justin Sylvester, aka the Lady Sitter, joins me to delve into Demi Lovato’s recent Froyo Gate scandal. We also discuss my fave couple KRAVIS (Kourtney Kardashian & Travis Barker), and Jlo & Arod’s breakup. He also tells us all about how he became a “lady sitter,” what it means, and how it helped him in the entertainment industry. Support our sponsors!! Verb Energy: Verb is offering an exclusive deal to my listeners: they will ship you 4 of their best selling flavors for FREE, you just pay 95 cents for shipping. To claim this deal, you must go to verbenergy.com/NOTSKINNY. James Allen: If you love my tennis bracelet, go to JamesAllen.com to customize a piece of fine jewelry or design your dream engagement ring and enter code NOTSKINNY for 30% off sitewide!! (exclusions apply) Brightcellars: Stop being a basic b about wine! Get 50% off an order of 6 bottles at Bright Cellars brightcellars.com/notskinny Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Okay, you guys, today I have such a special guest. He's been a little MIA from Insta and from Daily Pop on E, one of our favorite shows. Justin Sylvester, aka the lady sitter, is in the house. Oh my God, how are you? I'm so excited that you're here, that you're like alive.

We were just talking about it. You've been through a little something, something. I'm literally surprised that people even notice that I was gone. Like, honestly, I thought people would just think that I was jetting off to some remote location with no internet.

And I was just going to leave it at that and let people wonder. But why didn't you guys think to say, like, Justin can't be here today, like, Justin can't come to the phone right now, like something. A little heads up. You know why? This was my first surgery. And I had never been under before. And it happened so fast. I found out on Monday that I was having surgery on Friday. So I just wanted to get through, I wanted to get through life to make sure I was going to open my eyes before we were like, oh, by the way, this guy is going to wait for surgery. and then five days later, oh, by the way, he died. You know what I mean? I wanted to just...

Wait, are you superstitious? That's like a super... I feel like I can relate to that thought, but that's a super like kind of superstitious vibe. No, I think I've been in situations too many times where you think something's happening and like contracts have been signed and like, you know, why your transfers have started. And then all of a sudden, they're like, oh, wait, it's. not happening. Skir-skirt, don't spend that money. So I've done this. I'm an entertainment. I know it happens all the time. So I was just doing what I do when I normally get a project, which is,

I'm going to tell you the day that it airs because then I know it's real. You know what I mean? That's such a good point. I do that with everything, like even flying. I won't be like, when I land, I'm going to go to the museum. I'll be like, let me land. Let me land. Unless it's like a hot dude, then I'm like, I land at six. I'll be at your house by. 830. So I want to know that too. Are you single? Oh my God. I am the most single thing in the world. And after going through a surgery and a recovery, it's like the first time in my life that I think that I might need to put on my big girl panties and try to find a dude. This is the first time in your life? I don't understand. Yeah. Okay. So I'm a Scorpio. I'm also fiercely independent.

I was raised by a single mother. My mom never needed a man and never wanted people or never wanted a man to ever think that she needed him to survive and she is a very proud woman. And I grew up with that. And for me, I've always lived my life not needing someone to make me happy. I make myself happy. I'm happy being in my space alone and I have friends and I have, you know, people that I love and that love me and I'm fulfilled.

And, you know, I just never thought in a million years, I would say this because I'm a single enthusiast, but I think it's time for me to try and figure it out. So two things. One, so who accompanied you, like who was your person for like surgery? Was it your mom? No, no one knew. I literally did it under the undercover.

My mom lives in Louisiana. I live in Los Angeles. My person was, have you ever watched Rich Kids at Beverly Hills? Yes. Johnny Drew Bell was my person. Wait. Oh, my God. So you literally didn't only not tell fans of the show, your followers.

You didn't tell anybody. I didn't tell anyone because I didn't want. I'm also a person who I don't like a lot of fuss. Like my birthday is one of like is like a love-hate relationship. Like I love my birthday and I love to turn up, but I hate. Like, it's overwhelming to get that much love at one time. I'm the opposite, but I understand what you're saying. You know what I mean?

Like, so for me, going through the surgery and having people, you know, texting me, like, how are you doing? Can I do anything? How are you doing? Can I do anything? Oh, my God. Are you okay? How are you feeling today?

Like, it's a lot. And I feel like I have to answer everybody. So for me, I was like, look, I'm just going to put it out at one point. I'm going to tell everybody exactly how I'm feeling 10 to 15 days after surgery. and then I'm going to keep it pushing. So we don't know what the surgery was and we're respecting your privacy on that, right? Oh, no, I can tell you.

Oh, tell me. Have you ever heard of the challenge before the D challenge? Do you remember that a few years back? No. There was this challenge and it was called for the dick. Like, what would you do for the dick?

Okay. And people were, it's like people were making raps about it. Gabriel Union did it. Like, people were doing it. Well, before that, challenge came out. I was doing it for the D back in the cut. So I dated a guy in college and he thought he was Lance Armstrong. He bought a bike. He would bike everywhere. And I thought, oh, I'm going to do it for the D. I'm going to bike as well. And I, my big ass, I'm bottom heavy. My butt is big.

I had no, no point of being on that bike. That bike should have looked at me and said, the fuck are you doing? Okay. Like a serious bike? Like a serious. Oh, okay. Specialized. Like, you know, you put your feet in the things and you click them in. Oh, my God.

I'm, I don't even know what I was thinking. But I got the bike. Yeah. On the second day that I had the bike, we went for a ride and I fell off the bike. And my legs kind of scissered with the ball. on the bike, I pass out for a solid seven minutes. It's raining. This guy's like, oh my God, I thought you were dead. And I'm like, no, no, I'm fine. I'm totally fine. It's totally cool. Like, you ride on. I'm going to ride back. Had to have a friend come and pick me up. And

And needless aside didn't even get the D because we broke up two weeks later and I had to sell that bike and sell all the equipment. But long story short, the scar tissue just kept on building and I couldn't let it happen. I couldn't let it build anymore. It was starting to frustrate other things in my body. So I got the scar tissue removed from that biking accident. I cannot believe, I feel like this is what happened when men, and by the way, it doesn't matter, gay or straight, when you guys try to like do physical activity. I feel like my brother-in-law like broke his leg playing soccer once. My husband just tried to go skiing and everyone knows it follows me. Literally I thought he would also need to like have shoulders.

It's like you guys need to stop trying because if you're not like born with like an athletic vibe, even though you feel like I feel like you have an athletic bod. Oh for sure, for sure. As long as it's both of my feet on the ground. I can ski. I can play basketball. I can

run like a motherfucker. We're not going to do is get on a bike ever motherfucking again. We're not skydiving. We're not kayaking. We're not doing any of those things. I truly learned my lesson. And I actually texted the guy and said, by the way, I'm having surgery for that biking accident that I got into when I was riding my bike with you. Oh my God. Are you cursing the day or looking back would you still do it for the day? No, that was the last time. I think I did it for the D. The only thing I'll do for the D is get on a flight. Like, I'm cool we getting on a flight.

You know what I mean? Yeah. We don't need to also change ourselves for the day, you know? But I was 18. I didn't know that back now. Oh, wow. I didn't learn you didn't have to change yourself for a man until I was in my mid-20s. Because I was a chameleon.

A bitch was a chameleon. Okay. If you were into country music, guess what motherfucker I was getting a belt buckle. If you were into dirt bikes, I was going to go get a Yamaha. I just, I thought that's what you do. Like, I was that girl who met a guy would leave all her friends for six months. Yeah. Change her hair color.

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Is that why no one's hitting on me? because everyone thinks I'm married. IMD has me get married. We need to find out who this Justin Sylvester is that pops up first and is getting your Google whatever search situation.

But do you watch The Bachelor at all? Do you know anything about the Bachelor world? Like Bachelor people? Yeah, I know a little bit about the Bachelor world. Yes. So you know the couple that came out of Bachelor Paradise, Dean and Caitlin. You know Dean? He's like really hot.

No, girl. I mean, I know Dean. after he got with her, I was done with him. Why? I just, you know, I like them when they're single

and they're mosing it around and, you know, they're getting Netflix shows with Gus Penworthy. Yeah, well, they're a perfect example of like he,

she was like a pageant girl. He literally jumps out of a plane every other day. And now she is literally, their last Instagram video is her pushing him out of a plane. So I'm all for it if that makes them happy.

but it is a wild thing to watch somebody change so much. And we all have friends like that in our lives. But anyway, you're going to find someone. You're not going to have to break anything in your body or, you know, whatever. But how do you do that? Is it a dating app or are you going to start sliding into like people's DMs? Because I feel like that's even better than dating apps today. No, because I can't really slide into people's DMs.

First of all, nobody wants to fuck a dude named Ladiesheder. Okay. Like, you know. Like, people want us have sex with a dude named Trainer Doug or Fitness by Fernando or like, you know, big money deal. Like, no one wants to screw a dude with lady in his name. So are you regretting that now? Well, no, we need to go back for people that don't know. I changed it.

I changed it. It's now Justin A. Sylvester. When did this happen? This happened after Michelle Obama. Michelle Obama said my name in an interview and I was like, fuck it. I'm doing it. She said it. I'm going with it. And to be honest, like, ladies sitter I've had all through college. I was a lady sitter in college. I moved to Los Angeles, worked for Kyle Richards, did that for five years, had other clients for another three years. And ladies sitter was who I was in my 20s. And when I joined Daily Pop, I thought about changing it back then. And I kept on going back and forth. I wasn't ready to let go a lady sitter because it's who I was at one point. And he had brought me so much joy.

But somebody said, you'll know when it's time. Like, you'll know when it's time to move on and start to forge a new path. And for me, when Michelle Obama said Justin Sevester and when Hoda Codby says Justin Sylvester every Wednesday on today's show, I'm like, I think it's time. I think it's honestly time. Why were people like referring to you by the lady sitter, like introducing you that way and you were like at some, I see. Yeah. Are people call me lady?

Like, again, no dude wants to fuck a dude named lady. Wait. So you, so lady sitter, like that means, so the meaning is kind of like you're with the girl while her boyfriend is off like doing things. Is that like the vibe? I'm a nanny for an adult. woman. That's what I did. So I basically raised bougie-ass women in Beverly Hills. What does that? What do you mean? What does that mean? Give us more

details on that. Like, imagine what a nanny does for a kid. Like, teaches them things, you know, brings them places, escorts them into parties and events. Like, I was just doing that for adult women. I was running their lives, helping them be, you know, better moms, better, better parents, better wives that are business women. I think women take on so much in their lives. That's how I ended up cornering the market. I found women who truly wanted to do everything. And I said, okay, great, I'll be your extra pair of hands and your extra pair of eyes. Let's make this happen. You know, Kyle Richards, when I met her, had never had an assistant before in her life. And she had

four kids. And she's a type of mom. Still till today, she'll go film a scene. leave the scene, rush all the way back across town to make sure she can pick up her kid, bring her kid home, and then go back to work. Like, that's how she would operate. And at some point, you know, our paths crossed, and she was like, I think I need someone. So my job for Kyle Richards was to make sure that she could be the best she could be on Royal Housewives of Beverly Hills. Why not giving up the things that she loved so much, which was cooking for her kids,

making sure she was at every soccer game, making sure, you know, Maurice knew he had a hot meal coming on the table when he got home. Like, so that sort of lady sitter was and is. And you became also like best friends with, with these women, like with Kyle Richards. That's like part of the package it feels like.

That's why you don't call it an assistant because you're a stylist, you're a life coach, you're a chef, you're an event, you know, planner, you're a decorator, were all of these things all lumped into one. And on top of that, you're, you become their friends. And it's like, you can't, that's not a PA. Yeah. Well, that's wild. So how many years did

you do that for Kyle? Oh my God. We went through five seasons together. We went through five seasons together. And then season six through 11, I'm still seeing the dresses before they go on. I'm still talking about events on the phone. Like, you know, it's almost like Batman can hang up the bad suit, but when the signal goes off, you're going to pick up and go. You know what I mean? Yeah. Especially for her. There are two clients that I had, Kyle's one of them, and then there's another client who I still serve as. Even though I'm on TV, I still help her out. I still tell her systems, where to go, what to buy, and I send things and I connect things. And, you know, I still shop and ship for her because she relies on me. And I know that she will, I will do this until

she's 95. I could be married to the man who created Folgers. I could be Mrs. motherfucking Folgers with $3 billion in the bank. I'm still going to work for her. Like, that's how we roll. Oh, my God. Yeah. But once a ladies that are always ladies that are you, if a lady calls me and says, I need you. I can't say no. Wait, so the username, the handle, the Instagram handle became after the jobs. Yeah, I was the lady sitter when I was in. My first lady sitting job was when I was 18. I'm like, I'm blown away by this. I feel like I never thought your handle through this much. Like I didn't realize it was such a thing. Yeah. No, I'm lady. I was a lady sitter when I was a freshman in college. Are you one of a kind? I'm one of a kind.

There are more. By the way, they used to call ladies sitters walkers back in the south. Everybody had the one gay friend who would bring you to society events or dinners because your husband didn't want to go. Yeah, that's what, yeah, okay. So all the regal women had walkers and they were mostly gay men or young eligible bachelors that they just like to have on their hands. When I decided to coin ladies sitter, I wanted to monetarily brand myself as something that no one else had done. So you can be a lady sitter if you want. You have a high standards to live up to. But you're more than welcome to be a lady sitter. There's only one the lady sitter. The bitch has an IMDB. But is that, was that in any, do you think that while you were doing

that you were manifesting getting into the entertainment industry, or was that a means to an end to get into the entertainment industry? Or how do you see that part? I knew from a very young age that I wanted to be a talk show host. And I wanted to be a daytime talk show host. I wanted to be on a panel type show. And I had set my goal at doing that at 33. Like I said, I want before I'm 33, I would like to host a daytime talk show. And I thought, when I saw the view, I was like, I want to be on some type of view type show on like E or Bravo, where instead of talking about politics,

we're talking about pop culture. That was always my dream. Yeah. So when I went to college, I had that in my head. I went into masscom and PR, masscom and advertising in order to have a backup plan. Everybody needs a backup plan. I got my degree.

The day after I got my degree, I moved to Los Angeles. And my plan was to find a job that would put me in a space where I could learn a little bit more about the entertainment industry. And a friend of mine first tried to hook me up with Sharon Stone. Another friend of mine was like, okay, I'm going to get you this job interview with Demi Moore. And my girlfriend, Adela Landry was like, look, I know those two sound appealing. I mean, who wouldn't want to work for Sharon or Demi? Like, you know what I mean? But she was like, I have a friend who's starting a new reality show.

And I think you guys would really like each other and we would really hit it off. So I met Kyle for lunch. It was instantaneous that we clicked and we bonded. Her youngest daughter was like talking to me. She was one year's old. She was sitting on my lap. She was feeding me at amami. Like, you know, we were having a nice, and we still go to the same sushi restaurant.

like still till today that we met at. And when I got there, I knew that if I played my cards right, if I didn't overstep, if I wasn't thirsty, if I didn't look at this as an opportunity to get on camera, but an opportunity to learn, you know, use this as a master's class to branding yourself and being authentic and really showcasing and being vulnerable on camera, I would get more out of it than if I got on camera two episodes out of the season. You know what I mean? And I really did that. I sat back. I played my part. I was very respectful of her and her boundaries. And I never wanted her to feel like I was using her for camera time. What I was honestly using her for is for her to show me how to be authentic. And she

did that. She totally showed me without even knowing how to be a real person on TV and how to connect to an audience. And look, it wasn't easy. Season one was terrible. Season four was a mess. Season five was a mess. But we got through it and we got through it together. And when I moved on from that job, I was like, everybody was like, oh, you don't come from a normal newscast, background. You're not the normal guy who just comes out with the mic. You actually have some intense experience on reality TV. Tell us about that. And it was kind of sort of, that's been my calling card walking into, you know, this audition at EDA, which is my only audition for on camera stuff. So you just heard about this audition at EDA be on Daily Pop, which by the way,

you guys, it's every day, right, Monday through Friday at 11 a.m. Eastern and Pacific. Crazy. We love it. When this podcast gets mentioned there, I die. I'm like, like my worlds collide. It's such a thing because, you know, having this kind of dream and having a dream to be in the entertainment industry, sometimes it sounds like repetitive, right? Like so many people want it, right? And you feel sometimes like lame wanting something that so many people want, right? Like, but but if you believe in yourself and if you are, you know, good at what you do, and you manifest and you work hard and you're determined, you can get there. You know what I mean? Oh, 100%. And I tell people all the time, you know, everyone's like, oh my God, how'd you get that job at E?

Like, how did you do it? Like, I tell this story and I'm like, I don't, like, this is no shade to anybody. But when I walked into my audition, I was surrounded by people who had been on TV, who I had watched on e-news for years. And the one thing I knew was Jason Kennedy can out-host me in a millisecond. Walmart Fuji can out-host me in a millisecond.

Kat Sadler can read a prompter like no one's business. Carissa Cullinor can out-host me in two seconds. What you have to do in that moment, because you really only get three minutes to really showcase what you can do, you have to figure out what no one else is going to do in that room and do it. Not only in that room, because you're only with two other people at that moment, but in that room of 13, that 14 people around you that were also auditioning for that, what are those people not going to do that you can do today that's going to make them say, we have to have that guy?

Now I want to know what you did. I honestly went in and I pretended that I was a tamer version of Wendy Williams. I went through and I... No, because you're so soft-spoken. Like right now, like you have such a soothing voice and you're so like, so I can't imagine you being anything close to Wendy Williams. No, but you know what it is? It's, I'm very soft-spoken.

But when I'm doing daily pop, I don't think of it. as being on a TV show and I don't think of it as being on a TV show and presenting something to hundreds of thousands of people. The way I think about it is what would I sound like and what would I say if I was sitting at a table at my house with two of my best friends? So if you watch Daily Pop and you start to like recognize, I'm not talking, you know, in order for majority of the people to agree with me. A lot of times people get on TV shows and they want to be liked. You know what I mean? I want to be the person that you say, oh, my God, you're just like my friend Herman. Or, oh, my God, I got a friend named Kevin. Y'all too remind me of each other so much. Or, oh, my God, you say the

things that I wish I could say in my real life. Like, when people come up to me in public, that's what they say to me. Like, oh my God. Like, I can't believe you say the things that you say because I'm going to say the things that are unpopular. I'm probably going to say things that are going to rile people up a little bit. But I know the things that I'm going to say are the things that people are thinking. And I'm going to say the things that make people think. I love that. And that's refreshing for E because I love E and I love watching the news.

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Like when Corny and Scott, you know, we're left in the Malibu house by themselves. like by mistake and they had to do. And the whole, Scott, are you, do you ship Courtney Skort? Do you ship Skort? Do you wish they were together? I used to. Yeah. I used to until I'm seeing how much good dick she's getting right now with Travis Parker.

And I'm saying that because she's letting her hair down. I'm saying that because she is being more free. And I'm saying that because she watched her sisters. be happy, get the best deed of their lives. She watched Scott go from Sophia to Amelia. She kept her head high. She invited them to a Christmas party. She let her kids go around them.

And it's finally time for her to say, fuck it, I'm going to get it too. And I'm happy for it. And I think, listen, rich white people have this thing that they marry, they divorce, and then they end up married to the same guy like 30 years down the road. You know what I mean? they do that. It's weird. It's like a weird white lady thing. I think she's going to be that white lady who's going to be married once and then her second husband is going to end up being Scott Dissick. And I don't mind that. I want her to find it with somebody else. I want her to know

that like she is beautiful. Her life is beautiful and somebody wants to share it with her. So I'm here for Travis Barker. Oh my God. I am so, I'm like a Cravis. Like I would give up my marriage for like Cravis to be long haul. Like I just feel like, because a lot of people are saying that they're so public and it's so like in your face right now and it's so he got the tattoo and people are feeling like it's set up for failure. I am not one of those people. I'm like you, first of all, someone DM me the other day like, I think they're having

kinky sex and I was like, no shit Sherlock. Oh my God. But they've been having kinky sex. They've been having kinky sex. before we knew they were having kinky sex. Remember, Travis and Courtney Kardashian rumors have been flying around for years. They live across the street from each other.

They go to the same church service. I feel like these two have been playing hide and seek at each other's houses for a very long time, but this woman has been so devoted to her kids that she didn't want to bring another person into her life. They had already met Eunice already. It would have been too confusing.

I think they waited for the perfect time to go public. But I think these two have been doing it for a minute. They could have because I'm now noticing like I'll like flashbacks of when Travis was on keeping up. Because he came around a lot. And she was always like giddy with him. She was always like, yeah, Travis, like we're ice skating on Christmas. Yes. But they do have such similar vibes.

And like it's so wild how sexual. she is with him and how like even though people are saying remember we were like what you would do for the D so she is kind of like punk rock all of a sudden like the long black hair and the converse and the like cut out jean like

she's like yeah Kylie just got her that skull birthday arrangement like all of a sudden she's into skulls like it's kind of wild look by the way when your sister is finally smiling from ear to ear and we've seen seasons of the Kardashians where Courtney is obviously not happy.

She's lashing out at people. She's on edge. And I think for her it was she didn't find, she hadn't found somebody to share her life with. And we're watching Kim bring her fourth kid into the world. We're watching True being born under crazy circumstances, but still, Chloe was happy. Kylie was happy with her unconventional relationship with Travis.

I think Courtney thought love was going to be a lot easier. but she didn't know how to navigate that. And I think, shit, if my sister was like, look, I'm going to join the Mormon church, I'm having some good sex and I'm not going to fight with you, bitch. Let me bring you to Utah. I'm going to churn you some butter. Okay. Let me go ahead and bring you this motherfucking parquet.

And that's so true because Courtney was, she was always my favorite Kardashian, but she was getting a lot of shit in the last couple seasons when she was like, I don't want to be on the show. Everyone was like, then don't be on the show. her sisters were saying that. The crowd was saying that. The audience was saying that. I was always like, no, but she's the most interesting to look at. And finally, she's like, fucking living life. She's so happy. They're having all the sex. What do you feel about the suck in of the thumbs? If it makes, girl, if it's going to sue the baby, let it soothe you. I don't give a shit, bitch. If you are happy, suck it on a carrot in the middle of traffic. Do your thing. No, but Justin, when that came up on your feed, were you confused for a minute that it wasn't a finger? What I know about Chris

is Chris got a handle, okay? So I would have never seen it on my feed if it was something other than a finger. Okay. Right, right, right. But have you ever been, have you ever had a sibling, our friend who was miserable

and they made everybody else miserable and they didn't realize it? Yeah. Like, imagine, by the way, imagine that. And then imagine having to go to work with those people every single day and put on a bray face and try to pretend and sulk your way through it. You can't do it. It's hard. So I'm telling you, Kylie was like, whatever you want to do and whatever scene you want to be in, bitch, we are going to support you.

Okay. We're going to pay for you to do this. It's so true because he got her. I don't know if you guys saw. I mean, you probably did because it's blasted over Instagram. Travis for Courtney's 42nd birthday and she is so goals for 42. He got her this like flower installation

of her favorite flower, which is like tulip and gardenias, I think. And there is not one person of her friends and family that didn't post it and tag Travis and like they made such a big thing of it like at Travis like look at the

and I'm like first of all I felt bad for Kanye because Kim was also put it up and it was like, I've never seen anything like this. I was like, girl. Tanya got you like walls and Kenny G

was in your freaking living room with tulips in glass vases and you're going to say you've never like I felt kind of like there was shade

but Jeff Latham I was like Jeff Latham better come through and slap her ass like bitch you've seen better than this

but I think that just goes to your point Justin that everyone is so happy for this relationship and so happy for Courtney that it's like

Travis is so amazing. Like I, when I post about Kravis, like her friends support it. Like everyone is so supportive with this relationship because I think you're right. Like Courtney's finally fucking happy.

She's finally happy. You know, and it's, you said something interesting at the beginning. You were like, you're not sure about the show and it feels contrived. And, you know, Travis and I mean, Travis and I'm sorry, Scott and Courtney getting stuck in a house together.

Remember, you're filming a show during COVID. you can't bring a camera crew or you can't even have a film crew on properties. Like, I'm getting COVID tested every day I'm going to work. Like, can you imagine trying to put on a show right now during COVID? Like, Real Housewives of Atlanta, real house size of Beverly Hills, you're seeing, like, the hills had to go to La Quinta and lock themselves in a resort for a whole week. Like, if you're doing that right now during COVID,

it's you're about to have to come up with some scenarios. That's when the real work comes through. I see what you're saying. So, yes, you're right. You're right. And I was also alluding to that before. Like, yes, it is boring this season a little bit. We're not getting as much.

It does feel a lot more, you know, because I just remember every season there used to be some sort of like plot that was going on. And then there was like a subplot of a prank or of this or over that. They were like, okay, that's a little bit more contrived. And this season, it feels a lot. more. But listen to me, Justin, if I don't get a fucking hint of Cravis this season, if there's not even like a sprinkle before the season ends, I'm going to be so upset. Like, there must be a sprinkle, especially because we're all shipping Cravis IRL. But what we're seeing on

screen is Scott being like, no, you're not, I don't know if you're going to, I don't know if you're fully going to get it right now because remember, things are happening. Like, We're talking about, you know, is it last summer maybe? No, no. Right. Yeah, like we're talking. No, I think like beginning, middle of COVID. Of COVID.

So I think you're alluded to a slow start, but don't forget, you're going to get, at some point, Chloe Kardashian is going to have to explain that big ass diamond ring on her finger. Right. Forgetting about that. You're also forgetting that we're about to see not the demise of Kim and Kanye, but the beginning of it. Yeah. Like, you're going to.

going to, like, subplot, bitch. Like, we're talking about tweets in Wyoming and we can't bomb, you know, the cell tower fast enough. Like, yeah. We're talking about, you know, going there in the middle of the day, crying in a car, trying to figure out my life with my husband of four and trying to talk him, you know, into seeing how he's hurting my whole family. And then my whole family is going to talk about it.

These people are going there. You're just wanting it now. You're just wanting it now. Right. You're right. You're right. Because it's like IRL versus when things are filmed. You do have a good point in that. And listen, I say this, doesn't matter. I'll watch the Kardashians shake their salads like for an hour. I don't care. I'll watch them do anything and everything. Okay, you guys. So yeah, you're not special. You like wine. Okay. We're basic ass bitches. Not special. You know what is special? Like knowing what wine you like? You want to know what wine to buy for your. house so you're not stuck with something like gross that you don't like. So happy to tell you that this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat is brought to you by Bright Sellers. It's a wine subscription box that pairs you with wine that you love that is delivered to your door. So whether you're new to wine or you've been drinking wine for years, let's be honest, we've been drinking wine

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So how do you feel, though, watching Scott, who. Even if you loved Scort and I did, you cannot see that it's kind of bullshit and a double standard. I don't know if anyone listening has seen the upcoming scenes where Scott is like upset that he thought he saw Courtney flirt with someone. And he was like, it's so hard for me to see you with another like person. Like she was like, I wasn't flirting.

And he was like, well, if you were with someone else, it'd be so hard. I'm like, he's such a little like, it's just such a double standard because he can go with first of all, we know that he's fucked up when they were together. And even though back in the day wasn't confirmed that it was cheating, we could probably assume that he was with other women. And he hooked up with Sophia. He was with Sophia for three

years. Also, what about the shade to Sophia, Justin? Like, he had a three-year relationship with her. And then on the show, he's like, Courtney, like, you're my priority. And Sophia gave me ultimatum. He threw her to the fucking curb. Oh, my God. But by the way, I feel bad for it. I don't say this lightly.

And I don't, people used to say men had midlife crises and it was a bad thing. It's like saying that somebody is going through menopause. It's not a bad thing. It just happens in your life. I think Scott Dissick is going through a midlife crisis. I think Scott Dissick is trying to figure out who he is. He's trying to stay sober. And he's trying to raise children all while not having a family of his own.

So I have a lot of empathy for Scott Dissick because we're not only talking about his ex-girlfriend and his baby mother, we're talking about somebody who he saw as almost like his sister. Like, you're talking about three different relationships in one. If I fall in love with somebody who was my friend, it makes it even harder for me to break up with that person because I'm not only losing a friend, I'm losing a partner. Imagine if that person for you was a mother,

of your children was your sister, was your rock through, you know, through everything. You have no cousins. You have nothing. So if you lose that respect and that family, you're starting from ground zero. Right. It's very, right. I mean, it would be, I feel like I lost a parent when I was 18 years old and I know how it feels. And it's also comforting to me to know that I have a sister who went through the same thing. And when I'm feeling certain type of way about it, I can talk to her about it and I know that she understands me. Scott doesn't have anyone.

There's something about, he doesn't have anyone. So I think there's a lot of emotions getting jumbled into one thing. And I have sympathy for him. I have empathy. Not sympathy. I have empathy for him. I empathy for him. Especially because if Corny gets, you know,

she is super serious with Travis. he's not going to be able to play the same role. Is that water? Yeah, girl, Aeroon. He's not going to be able to play the same role that he did in the family. There can't be Travis and Scott sitting next to Travis. It just won't work long term.

Not for every single event, maybe for like Christmas parties and shit like that. But he was like... It's going to happen. But it can't. You know what I mean? Scott is going to have to be sidelined and that's really upsetting. She played her cards right

in the sense that when he was getting serious with Sophia Ritchie she brought Sophia Ritchie in and was like look I know we all hate each other because that Justin Bieber you know scoffel where we all hooked up with Justin Bieber and you were really pissed about it but come right on in

like I know you and Kylie don't talk anymore but just come in girl put on your best dress and come to these Christmas parties and come to Mexico they had a freaking Mexican vacation and come skiing and come into Antarctica and come to this and come to that. I think what she is doing, and I say this all the time to my friends who have baby daddies or baby mamas, if you set the precedent in a positive way, it will pave the way for

the rest of your natural born lives with these children. So for her, she was like, look, I don't have anybody right now, but I'm going to be the bigger person. I'm going to let you bring in your girlfriend who I probably don't respect because she's 19 years old, but I'm still going to let you bring her in because you guys are getting serious and you and I are more than the nexus. So I think when the tables are going to be turned,

he's going to have to swallow his pride and say, I'm going to do the same thing that she did when I had Sophia and Amelia. First of all, let's just like, the way you're putting things right now, it does make people think you were saying that you have a way to do that. And like, it just makes me realize

that my love for Courtney isn't in vain. and like, look how great she is. I mean, those are great. I would have been way pettier. I wouldn't have gone on vacation with Sophia. Oh, I'm not that bitch either. I would be like, fuck you. I would have sent her ass to the best Western down the street

and I would have dared her to come to Las Ventanas, okay? I've been like, no, bitch. No, you're there. I'm not that person, but, you know, I've met Christianer a few times. I spent time with her and had dinners with her. And I think if you look at Kim and you look at, at Courtney and you look at Chloe. And I use the older sisters by example because they've been

through life things and they've shown their lives. I think what these women do, they've learned from their mother. And that's to look past what other people see and to really look into something and figure out the root of an issue. And I don't think they throw people away because they make mistakes. Oh my God. No, they're so loyal. They're so loyal. Lamar. Lamar. You know, Lamar, you have Tristan, you have Kanye who's gotten multiple chances. Scott has gotten 50,000 chances. You're looking at somebody who is saying, let's look at the bigger picture here. Do you want to give up a relationship because people won't understand what you're going through with this guy right now? Are you going to see this guy for who he really is and learned that he made

a mistake? I think Christian can read people. I think Christian has shown her, like, she and Robert had a great relationship right up until the time that he died and i think for them like you know their dad represented oj chris was on nico's side at the end of the day robert wasn't a bad person for doing that and chris saw that so the girls learned that at a very young age and they get it from the mama you know what i mean a hundred percent that makes sense like they were say what you want to say about the kardashans even if you don't like them everyone I've said this on a lot of podcasts. Everyone who's worked with them,

everyone who knows them has nothing bad to say. They're always known to be great to work with, kind, nice, and everything. By the way, these people have, and this is no shade, but it's kind of shade. These women have met a lot of black men in their lives. When I walk in a room,

yeah. If I hadn't seen Chloe in two and a half years, she'll be like, how are you? How is Faye? Picking up the conversation where we left off two and a half, years ago.

Shut up. Oh, my God. I love you hear that. Oh, my God. How are you? Like, and not, oh my God. Who are you? I don't know who you are.

So I'm like, no, no. Bitch, we haven't seen another than six years. How have you been since I saw you at the, you know, Kula Borough opening at the, like, that's how they are. And that's how they are. And that's also part of, listen, at the end of the day, like, if you're a good person who treat people well around you, like, that's also part of success. And I think they were taught that by their.

moms. And that really does make them amazing. I need your like super insight into one more thing before you go. So I don't keep you for too long. Oh my God. Please. Let's go. Come on. We got to Demi Lovato. Are you up to date on Froyo gate? Yeah, girl. Yeah. We need to discuss it. So for those who don't know really quickly, Demi Lovato, have you watched her documentary by the way, Justin, on YouTube? Yes. Okay. Because I feel like, this gives a little bit of context. So Demi Lovato a few days ago went to the big chill. Have you been to this Froyo place that she has, she has, is in recovery from an eating disorder. And she said that she was very triggered when she went to the Froyo shop that she ended up leaving without

Froyo because they had diet options and sugar-free options and something guilt-free, even though we'll talk about the guilt-free in a second. And she didn't end up getting Froyo. She blasted them on social media she wrote to them and they were kind of like no like we're we're this is for like diabetics and whatever and then she posted it and she was like they're rude because they didn't apologize so this whole froyo thing people in my world i don't know if i just have the same kind of person people that follow me people were kind of like demi what the fuck like no one was really sympathizing with her and you're a man of empathy how were you feeling about the situation. I will say I was grateful that we could talk about something other than

Megan and Harry. I was happy something else came up that had nothing to do with the Royals. And I'm pretty sure Megan Markle was like, bitch, I owe you an edible arrangement because I just want to say, thank you for taking the slack off of me for one new cycle. Yeah. You know, I have growing up with addicts. I have dated somebody who was an addict. And have you ever heard of this thing called The Pink Cloud? No. I feel like everything who asked me, I'm like, no, I'm an idiot. What is it? Yeah, yeah. So the pink cloud is this, because I was in Al-Anon, because I was with someone who was an alcoholic. And when he started going through his recovery, I decided, you know, I've had family members and

friends. And now I'm dating somebody. I should probably get a little bit of education, my And for anybody out there who has never heard of Al-Anon, it is a beautiful thing. If you can go once a month, if you can go once a week, you should do it. It's phenomenal. And it's this thing called the Pink Cloud. And they explain it to you, and I'm going to butcher this a little bit, but when addicts are out of recovery and they're on their program and they feel really strong, they almost feel of a need to push very passionately their program and the things that they learned on you.

And sometimes that passion can be misdirected at the wrong people. So I'm happy that Demi Lovato is noticing and attributing her triggers because triggers are a very personal thing. And your journey, whether you're California sober like she is or stone cold sober like anyone else is, we are not here to judge. That is your personal journey. With that being said, on your journey, you are going to come face to face with things that aren't going to be right for you. I just don't think that you should ruin it for everybody because it doesn't work for you. And when I go to a frio place, I'm lactose intolerant. if I have any bit of dairy bitch I'm going to be in this motherfucking biantherim, wishing I was in a motherfucker recovery, okay? So I need the guilt-free shit.

I want all of those things. I'm also a proud member, you know, card-carrying member of the gay man's committee. And I want guilt-free shit too. I want a protein cookie after I work out if I'm getting a dessert on a date. So I think for Demi Lovato,

and I'm going to say this, and again, It's going to come off a little shady. You know, I woke up that morning, and I saw the news headline that 27 people had got shot in Chicago that weekend. And five of them died, including a three-year-old. I don't know if Froyo is going to be the hill I'm going to die on this morning. Like, I feel like I can't believe I didn't use the meme that I use every day, which is, Kim, there are people that are dying. Like, basically what you're saying.

Kim, there are people that are dying. And my thing is, and I think, Dimmie LaValle, is, and like everybody, we are all entitled to our opinion, including myself. And I'm giving my opinion because she put hers out there. And that's, that's America. But have you ever heard the advice? Because people have given it to me over the years. If you're really upset about something, write it down and, you know, form the email. And when you wake up, if you still want to send it, go right ahead and send it. Yes. I'm so glad I know something that you're saying. finally.

I think if Demi Lovato would have wrote this motherfucking shit down and woke up the next morning, she probably wouldn't have, you know, she wouldn't have put it out that way because she would have been calm at that moment. She also does not have a gay friend in her corner because if she would have told a queen, hey, bitch, this is what I'm about to say to this proyo place. We would have been like, you sure you want to do that? Yeah, like, I think I agree. like, I always say this even when friends fight with me or anything.

It's like, you're entitled to feel however you are feeling. Like, I don't think anybody could tell anybody how to feel. If she came on Instagram and said, hi, fans and friends, I just want to tell you, I went to a yogurt place. I won't say its name because I don't want to ruin it for them. Give it to me. I, like, I feel triggered in my process. And I just want to share with you guys because I'm feeling vulnerable that, you know,

maybe going to frio places or everyone would support her and be like, we're here for you, like, we understand you. I think it was just the blind, you know, pink cloud or whatever. It was the rage. The blind rage of being angry at something that isn't for you, but that doesn't mean, and that's how she came off to a lot of people as entitled because it sounds entitled to say a place shouldn't have this or that because it doesn't work for me. Oh, for sure.

If you're in recovery for alcohol, should liquor stores not exist? You know, there's so many, you know, things to say about that. There's so many things. And, you know, I had a friend who got married. And we had a friend who had just recently become sober. And, you know, we sent him the bachelor party invite. And we said, we understand if you don't want to come. Like, we could do something small.

And, you know, like, we had another thing planned that was smaller driving distance, camping. But, you know, we planned. I was super proud to be on the committee. We were going to Miami. Like, if I'm going to motherfucking Miami, it's, it's, I'm not coming to work on Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. I'm going to put it that way.

And, you know, he was like, no, I'm going to come. I'm going to come. I don't want to miss this. I never want to, I'm not going to miss this as an important moment in our lives. And we're like, cool, book your ticket, book your flight. If you don't, if you decide you want to back out, you can always get a refundable ticket It's not going to be that big of a deal. He came and day two, like, I can't believe you guys don't have respect for me.

You know, I'm just recently out of rehab and yada, yada, yada. And I was, you know, very calmly like, you know, hey, we're so sorry. We sent you the itinerary. Like, you know. It said drink, drink, drink, drink, drink. Like, we, like, no one drove. We thought, like, this was a clear indication. We also came to the 305.

Like, you know, like, I, you know, like, we went to Swinging Richards. Like, I'm not going to go look at naked men without having a drink in my hand. Like, you know, like, it was like, but I was like, you know, I totally get it. If you want to stay back tonight, I'm, I'm totally fine with it. He was like, no, you know what? I'm going to get off my high horse. I'm going to stop feeling sorry for myself. I'm going to come to the club.

Came to the club. Same thing. You know, I'm feeling triggered. I'm like, do you want me to walk? you home before DJ Calick comes on because I can get you back to the motherfucking hotel. He was like, no, no, no. I don't want you to leave. I don't want to ruin this. Stayed. I'm feeling triggered. I was like, you know what? I'm just going to get another shot. I'm going to enjoy my time.

Do you know that this motherfucker wrote us the longest email when we got home talking about how disrespectful we were and how we had been not sensitive to his situation. and how he felt triggered. And everyone was upset. And I said, no one respond. Let's all give it 48 hours. I'm going to respond back and I'm going to say,

we're going to, let me give you, we're going to give you 48 hours. We're going to respond back in 48 hours. We're still, we're still not comprehending this. In that 48 hours, he had emailed back and said, I just read my email and I'm so embarrassed. I cannot believe that I said, this. Like, I was in the heat of the moment. I didn't stand. I should have stood back and gave, giving myself for eight hours. I'm so sorry, yada, yada, yada. And I was like, it's fine.

This is what we wanted. We didn't want this to go back and forth and respond. It was going to be too crazy. But the damage has already been done. We're only going to remember that you felt triggered and you felt so triggered. You had to let us know while not leaving the triggers. so we're done like we're that's all we're going to remember from this that's a rat party yeah and it's fine but wait that 48 hours before you decide to tell something tell people something that's going to change their lives forever she could have went on a rant and close that place down after 60 something years yes that was what i think a lot which by the way you guys update the big chill is doing quite all right the lines are out the door if any

it seems like she brought them more business, which good for them. And, you know, at the end of the day, 100% wait before you do. And you have to be accountable for yourself and not expect the world to kind of cater to you, whether it's your friend or a photo shop. 100%. I will say, though, and big ups to her because I feel like a lot of times celebrities come out and save things. And we don't put a name or a face to a disease. So even though this was probably kind of a fail on her part in chat to apologize, I have now, and I think a lot of people have researched some of the things that she was saying. I think a lot of people are now more inundated with diet culture and all of these things and these terms. And people are starting to

Google them to figure out, you know, what they really mean. So as much as I want to say it was a fail, I still feel like she educated people in the same right. Listen, you are not a bitch at all, Justin. Let me tell you. I'm a bitch. You're not. Well, you're not.

Let me tell you. I feel like a bitch next to you because every time I'm like, what the fuck. And you're like, look at it this way, Amanda. We're trying to understand. This is the thing. I tell this to people all the time. When I talk about a celebrity and try doing this, like, just try it for a week. It would be the way you think about things.

You think about a celebrity. Think about that celebrity as being your cousin. And how would you explain your cousin's behavior to other people? So, like, it's like, are your best friend? You know what I mean? like, let's say, you know, Lindsay Lohan. What do you think about Lindsay Lohan? So you think we're harder on them and we should like be more understanding?

I think you should just, I feel like we should be more humanizing. Like I think for me, like most people will say, oh my God, Lindsay Lohan, she fucked it all love. She like, you know, blah, blah, blah. And I'll say, you know what, try being a child star and being the breadwinner of your family at the age of 12, that fucking pressure and moving to Los Angeles by yourself at 17 years old,

like, can you imagine the trouble you would have been into? Are the Justin Bieber of it all when he was going through his thing, you know, people would always say, I can't believe Justin Bieber is such a fucking brat. I'm like, if I had a camera in my face at 21,

people would think I was a goddamn super villain. Like, you know what I mean? Like, if y'all would have seen the crazy, I was, you know, getting drunk and going out and being a mess and like, you're right. People would have judged us. I think sometimes because we hold celebrities to higher standards, we forget that they're human too.

So what I do on Daily Pop and what I do when I talk about celebrity, and a lot of times you would just hear me give the other side is because when I think about celebrities, I think about if I don't have a friend that reminds me of that person, I just try to imagine that that person. is my friend or my cousin and let me explain I can get my cousin out of some shit like I'm gonna say my cousin could stab you 15 times in front of me

and I'll be like but you know like she grew up like I just and I want to find that for people I want to be able to to find you know

that moment for people like even in the J-Lo A-Ride saga oh my God everyone's like fuck A-Ride and I'm like you guys

you guys what okay this I need to hear before what you guys what you guys what what did you think about the J-Lo A-Rod what do you mean I think he's such a skee his face is

is easy to me he's like a slime ball with his shrine to her with fix you by cold play playing in the back like what what what what do you have

how are you defending A-Rod I need to know I'm not defending A-Rod what I'm going to defend is, look, I'm a man. And I know that even as a gay man, sometimes your ego needs to get stroked. You know, men are like that. Like, women need to be told they're pretty, women need to be told they look great or you're snatched. Like, you guys have that. And I'm cool with that because sometimes I just need to know she's fine. Okay. Even if she's not, even if I'm bloated off my period,

I just need to know that you think that I look cute today. Okay? With this. rat's nest on my head. Men in relationships and men especially who used to have a lot of, I don't want to say clout because he still has some clout, but when you're normally the most famous one in your relationship or you're the hot one or you're the funny one in your relationship and all of a sudden you start dating somebody who's hotter than you are funny than you are more famous than you, I think that you, that there's a psychological thing that makes you want to get your ego stroke by someone else. And I just think that the pandemic slowed everybody down.

Everybody had to hit the brakes. But for some reason, J-Lo got busier. It was weird. Some reason J-Lo got busier. And I was like, what the fuck is this? So busy right now. Like, and she didn't stop, which I don't think she should ever stop. And she should never dim herself for a man, ever.

Right. No one should ever dim themselves for a man. I just think if you're a man and you're with a boss bitch, you got to realize that it's not always going to be about you and you may not get your ego stroke for a good two to five years because somebody else is, you know, running the show. And I think that he just, I think that's what it was. I just think he needed this ego stroke.

Oh, my God, Justin. Oh, my God. You need to be an A-Rod sitter now. He needs you in his corner because I don't think anybody. else is. No, seriously. J-Lo? Fucking J-Lo. Yeah, but you know what? Don't pick sides, bitch, because you know what? Haven't you been a friend to somebody who breaks up with their man?

And you're like, yeah, fuck him. He's nasty. He's gross anyway. We hated him. And then they get back together a month later and you're like, oh, forget what I told you that night when I was being honest. Haven't you been that bitch? Yes, 100. And then you're like, I was just saying that because I didn't even Justin, you're a freaking gem. I think I need you in my corner to like, like bring me off the hill because I'm the opposite of you, which is great, which makes a good conversation.

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