Not Skinny But Not Fat - Starting the Summer w/ Summer House’s Paige Desorbo

Episode Date: June 9, 2020

Yes, I’m having Summer House withdrawal already. It was such a good season! I talk to Paige – who is such a vibe – wearing a giant flower on her shoulder – about all things SH: why her boyf isn’t on the show, what she thinks the real deal is with Hannah and Luke, what happened between her and Lindsay (remember how she blew up at her – even Lindsay remained speechless!?), how far Jules was up her butt, if she thinks Jules & Jordan were actually boning, and if she stanned Carl and Lindsay as a couple. Since she also loves celeb stuff, we discuss Khloe Kardashians “new face” photo that made waves and so much more. TBH, if it wasn’t for the partying I feel way too old far, I feel like I’d be a shoe in at the SH.  The Not Skinny But Not Fat Podcast is produced by The Podglomerate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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All right, you guys. I miss summer house. I do. What am I going to do? So Paige DeSorbo is here with me, you guys, looking like summer. I got dressed up for you. I just, today was a day where I was like, I'm going to shower today. Let's see how that goes. Wait, let's show everyone your long hair. Because it's long. It's so long. Oh my God. Your gardener is just like chilling in the background. What's happening? That's my friend. but also the gardener. But also the gardener. So Paige's hair is long. New hair, new hair, new you. I wasn't planning on it, but since COVID, I'm just like, I'm letting her do her thing.

So this is your hair naturally growing out. You didn't cut it. You didn't trim it. Nothing. Hannah wants me to shave my head. Have Hannah shave her head. She's been watching all these videos on TikTok and every girl who shaves her head is just so cool

and she really wants me to try it. Tell her, it's more her vibe than your vibe to shave a head. I would never be cool enough to shave my head. Pages in, let's just give a little like context to where pages. She's in the Hamptons in your family house? No, so my boyfriend rented a house with two of his friends and they're going to be here all summer. So I moved in in the beginning of May.

and I've been living with three boys. But you're used to that. You're used to living with boys that, like, aren't your boyfriend. I am used to it, but this is, it's a whole different feeling because everyone's, like, working all day and everyone's on phone calls and, like, trying to get to a little bit or buy it. And honestly, if there were cameras in here, it would be the sequel of Summer House. So, A, like, I'm sorry, Bravo, but it's a nicer house than the Summer House house. like TBH though. TBH, like I, we're starting from this for a second because we have a lot to talk about, but about the summer house house. Like you seem like the type of person that is like, I won't say high maintenance, but like likes nice things, likes like clean sheets. I like, I'm accustomed to being accommodated. So how do you deal with like how gross it seems like at least the summer house house gets and the alcohol and the stickiness and the people.

and the beer and the stuff. So I'm usually a pretty neat person, but when I'm not, if I make the mess, then I'm fine with it. But if I'm just home in, like, my own apartment, like my clothes are neat, everything's neat. So there was even an episode where someone, like, didn't a couple, like, have sex or, like,

this girl got eaten out on your bed? I mean, that one of the craziest things. Because, okay, also, I'm a, very like I get it you get horny at parties you're drinking you have fun I'm all for like take your boyfriend wherever if you're my friend totally use my bedroom but people that I've never like I don't know I'm just like the audacity but also page your 20 what six is it yeah I'm 27 27 so when you say like get horny at part isn't that like college like that's like yeah that's like college right now be like, okay, let's go home

because obviously we can't be in public. But I think they were younger because I think they were friends of Jules and Jules was 25. So I think they were younger and... Did you change your sheets? We did. We changed our sheets.

Well, they were on top of our comforter. That's not, that's not enough. Like, that's not enough. Now I'm having flashbacks that I'm like, I was surprised. Yeah, I actually don't know if we watched our sheets. Because no, that's what I'm remembering is I was surprised by you because, like, Hannah, someone said, like, no, it's just not a top sheet.

You're like, oh, the top sheet. Like, I'm like, the top sheet, gross. Everything goes out the window once you get into the summer house. I feel like you'd do things you'd never do. You'd say things you'd never do. And I slept on, like, sex sheets. So tell me how, I mean, this was your second season on Summer House. So you were new the third season.

And now you were like, no. but how did how did it happen that you got on the show? It was so weird because one, I'm like very big into manifesting and I was working at ABC News in their production company and I was like, I want to get on TV, how do I get on TV? And then randomly one of my girlfriends just texted me and was like, hey, Bravo reached out to me, they're casting for this show.

Would you ever be interested? And my immediate feeling was, oh my God, I can't be on a reality show. I, like I'm not built to get criticism or hate. And then I ran it by my parents and my dad was like, you have to do it. And then we did the interview process and I actually didn't get picked. I was not going to be on it.

But I think a girl dropped out or something and then two weeks before they called me. And they were like, do you want to sign a contract? And I was like, sure. And so then that's how I got on. Wait. So when you say you were manifesting, I want to be on TV, you didn't mean reality. you meant like what be like an Emmy winning actress all of them? I certainly didn't mean reality and I didn't know.

I could have never been an actress but I always wanted to do television hosting. Like my dream was always to be on e-news. Same. So I was like, okay, I'll just do this and see what happens. But the reality TV world is such a, such a world of its own that I wasn't prepared. But I do like it. Wait, did you watch Summer House before? Did you know, like, really?

Wait, did you not know that you could, like, apply? No. I didn't know how that worked. You were just manifesting. I was just manifesting. I was just like, hey, I want to be on TV. And the world was like, here you go. That's amazing.

I did watch it before and I find it so interesting when people go on reality TV. And they're like, I've never seen the show. I think this is the biggest ever. It's the biggest lot. Yes, you have watched it. And I used to watch it with my mom. And whenever I saw Amanda on camera, I'd always be like, I feel like her and I would be friends.

I feel like deep down, she's just a nice girl. And so then when I met her, it was like instantaneous that we just kind of hit it off. That's, but you, yeah, because I'm just remembering who the last person that said that they didn't watch and it was Luke. But I believe him. No? Like, do we believe him? I believe him. because he just is in his own world.

Like out of a movie. I was telling Paige when she, we started the Zoom and she was in the Hamptons in the backyard. And I just had a flashback to Luke went at him on my show. And he was on a bench in the woods in Minnesota with a like bandana here. Just like, hey, what's up? And he literally put his phone. in his crotch and still looked good

that it was like up his nostrils. No one cared. I'm going to say it. I'm going to be Nick Vial. It was like my best episode. I was like, all I need is a hot guy and like, bitches were dying, page. Can you?

I need your input on that. I did like a full face beat for mine. Put a fucking flower on my shoulder and he's just like, what's up? This is me. I love that he's himself. Yeah, I agree. He told me,

And I think girls love that too because they were like, he's hot and he's a person. You know, they like die. Like, it's like, people don't believe that you can be like good looking and like you say things that are normal. I can't explain to you.

You know what mean girls when they talk to Katie Heron and they're like, you're an alien? Like, do you even know anything? That's how I feel about Lou. I feel like he's just like an alien. I know. He told me about the TikTok.

thing that he was like because everyone had the cool TikToks for your reunion promo where you like jumped into an outfit and he was like they asked me to do it and I was like no like no. Oh I didn't even actually realize that he didn't do one.

He didn't do one and then he also told me that he did the reunion from like his parents attic and he was freezing because there was no like heater in Minnesota and I was like wow like that's legit but um so I do want to obviously get your opinions about the Luke and Hannah stuff later.

So you manifested, you got on the show, your first season, you had a thing with Carl. And you were pretty, like, positive about him this season. You said he was a good kisser. You were like, you left that little shindig, whatever you had with positive feelings towards him. Like, you never felt, like, ill, right, towards him? Yeah, I felt like I'm, I feel like as I get older, I'm just more mature about relationships, like three years ago, if it didn't work out with a guy, I'd be like, you need to never exist. And like, I need to never see you again and you're blocked and deleted.

Now I'm kind of like, you're this type of way and I'm this type of way. And both are totally fine. We just don't mesh together. I don't like dislike you as a human, but you're just not mine. So with Carl, I feel like we had so many differences on. what we thought was a good relationship and what next steps and moving forward really means. But I, by no means, do I think he's like a bad person.

And I do think the day he does get a girlfriend and gets married, he will be an amazing husband and dad. He's just not my husband or my children's dad, you know? So what did you think? Because I have to be honest, I can be cynical, but I, I mean, I think I know your answer to this, but I want to hear why. I was sort of like, if anyone can bring Carl around,

Like, maybe it is Lindsay. Did you feel that or did you feel the opposite? So I was actually talking about this the other day. When I first, when it was first confirmed that they were hooking up or they were trying something out, my initial thought was, wow, they're perfect for each other. Like, they are the yin and yang to each other because she can be, she can be so full of life and so, like, loud and energetic. And so can he.

But they can also, like, switch. I feel like they would balance. each other really well. I feel like they didn't work out because Lindsay has a very strong personality where I partly think it's like her way or the highway and any guy that she's with is kind of agrees with that where I don't think Carl can be tamed. She needs more of like a yes man. Yeah. Like she's so alpha I feel like and you know Carl I just don't know could live up to her standards. Yeah, but Paige, it exploded way before they got to that point. Like, it was like a day. They didn't even get to like. It was four minutes and they had broken up. It was. And I think that,

I mean, did you hear any rumors about it like kind of being for the show or no? Um, I mean, I feel like there's always rumblings of that regarding anyone's storyline. Like, oh, she's doing a show or oh, she's doing it's for camera on camera or storyline. But with, Lindsay, I really don't feel like that because Lindsay does put, like, her entire any relationship out on TV. You can ask her, like, she'll talk about anything. So I don't, I wouldn't see them doing that. And also, I don't know if Carl would be like, the person to, like, hatch a plan and be like, let's do this for him. I mean, I agree with you. I think they, like, in an ideal world, it would be like, wow, two best friends, but

obviously, a day later it was like, he, it's like he, his mind, he knows her, he knows what she's looking for, but then he was like, oh, you're looking for that? That's weird. Like, how do you not know? And I feel like he got so nervous

because however long in they were, then he was like, I actually don't want this. And I think all of his anxiety came from telling her, like, I want to go back to being friends. And he didn't know how to go about it. that's what ended up, like, ticking her off. I feel like if he had pulled her aside and was like,

I think you're great. I just don't see this. She might have reacted better where he just like immediately went into, I'm going to invite another girl out for the weekend and like it just got messy. Yeah. I have to tell you, my husband usually doesn't watch reality TV with me, but I made him watch Summer House with me. I was like, listen, you're going to like it.

It's not like, it's like Hamptons. It's fun. And he got into it. And you're his fave. Oh, I love that. Thank you. But I'll tell you why. Like, don't take it as a compliment too quick. No, I'm just kidding. Because he is like so like not he's pretty conservative and like he's a jealous husband. You know, he's not one of those where he's like, show your tits. He's like, wear a sweater. You know, he's like one of those. So I think

he really appreciates you, you know, having a boyfriend and like always respecting him. And you're not conservative but you're not like wild like no you're wild in a fun way but you're not like you're not a hoe yeah i don't go i don't take it overboard i feel like i know my limits i also feel like before i came on to the summer house i was 26 when i started and i had done like all my partying like i feel like i had really partied enough for three people where i don't know if everyone else had those party years. So that's why they continue to get older and still want a party where I'm getting to the point

where I'm like, I can't anymore. I feel the same as you. And I felt that even getting to college when people got to college and they were like, you know, drugs, alcohol. And I was into it too, but I was like, I grew up in the city. Like, we did drugs when you were 15.

Like, relax. Like, I don't need to leave my mom's house to like do things. And but I feel like that continues. with people that are like, I mean, I don't want to get too into that, but like people that are just for the first time at this age, you know, trying certain drugs or whatever. And then they're like so into it where, let me tell you, if you try it when you're 15, you get over it pretty quick. I feel like that's kind of the same for me. I definitely like had those party years in college. And then even when I moved to New York and I lived with like two of my girlfriends at

21, I mean, we went out every single night for four years. So I was like, I like, I can't go out anymore. Wait, where did you go to college? I went to college in Albany and I lived home in college. I went to the college of St. Rose. So right when I graduated. You lived home. But my parents were like, you're in college, like, do what you want. So I was never home any weekend and I would sleep out wherever. So then when I moved to New York, I was like, well, I'm really living on my own. And I let me tell you, I really lived it off those first couple of years. Wait, and now you're dating Perry, right? How old is he?

So Perry is 37. So it's a bit, it's 10 years is a lot. It's definitely a lot. And it's, I feel like a lot of our differences are just like, oh, well, I just haven't experienced this yet. So it's definitely hard. But, and he wants, he's like ready to settle down. It's not that he's like ready, like he would get married tomorrow.

He's just the same way where I feel like I'm kind of slowly done partying. he's, you know, really at that place where he's like, I'm just not going out till 3 a.m. That's just like not something I want to do. I want to wake up to the next morning and work out where I'm not there yet. But so we're on like different ends of the spectrum, but I'm definitely moving in that direction. So how did he feel about watching, did he watch this season with you? He watches every episode. He loves it.

He was proud of you. He's very proud of me. And he's just like realistic. He's like when I was 27, I lived in a house in the Hamptons with a bunch of guys and it was 10 times worse than this. I would never deprive you of doing that because it's some of the most fun years you'll ever have.

So he was like, go live with your friends for the summer. Like that's, you know, I did it. Why shouldn't you? So he's very understanding in terms of that. And why did he not want to ever come because he didn't want to be on TV? So it's so funny because when I first did my first season, he was my friend, obviously,

and he'd watch all the episodes with me. And then when we started dating, he... Oh, I didn't know you knew him from before. Yeah, I knew. I was friends with him for like two years before. Oh, wow. He knew this part of my life and, like, loved that I did this. But he runs a financial technology company,

and it's just... They're just not in, like, the reality TV space. And I would never want someone to do something they didn't want to do. Like, I signed up for this. And believe it or not, reality TV is just not everyone's thing. So, and he's just not very private. Doesn't he own the, the Italian place? Yep. He owns sauce pizzeria at sauce restaurant. And that's kind of like his side thing. Him and his business partner own that. And then he's the CEO of a financial technology company,

which I have no idea what they do. So don't ask me, which is funny. Because I remember Hannah was putting up stories of going there a lot. And she's such a ho, because I, I asked her, I was like, wait, that looks so good. Like, she's like, oh, my God, it's so good. And she, like, promoted it to me and never told me, like, it's Paige's boyfriend's. And I went. Yeah. I went, like, based on, like, the pictures that she posted that looked so yummy.

Um, so it's really good. Uh, but I only later, I was like, oh, that's, that's, uh, Perry, like, maybe I have Perry's. Yeah. He does, like, the business side of it. And then his partner is more of, like, the food. side of it. So it's really good.

And you guys are living together in New York? So in New York, we have separate apartments, but we've been quarantining together now for a month, which honestly, it's very good craft. And it's easier than I thought. Like I was, I thought I was going to be like, oh my God, I can't live with someone. Really? But it's not bad. He knows that I need my own space.

So I have a bedroom that's just mine where like all my clothes are and I go in there and I'm like, I need a minute. And then we have like our bedroom together. He's like, okay, do whatever you need. You're psycho. That's really understanding. Yeah. I drop you. No, I'm just kidding. But I do want to talk to you about, because we talk about Lindsay and Carl and I know Hannah's your BFF and your friendship is so cute. And we can talk about Giggly Squad for a second later because I wanted to know, because I remember, yeah, I would just wanted to know like who said bad things about it and who said good things about it because I know that there were some like, you said he didn't like Giggly Squad things. But, and I hope everyone knows for a second how it started the name. Yeah.

It's because of what's his face, Kyle. Yeah, the first episode, he said to Amanda, and you're over here laughing with the giggly squad. And Hannah and I both were like, oh, my God, that's amazing. And we, like, remembered it all summer and knew we were going to start a podcast at some point together. And then when quarantine happened, we were like, let's just go live and see what happens. And, like, we're a giggly squad. And that's, yeah. We hope that Kyle doesn't come after us one day and, like, tries to trademark it.

Oh, my God, legit. I remember that episode and I actually I wasn't team Amanda but I remember trying to put myself in Amanda's shoes not Kyle

Kyle was annoying I'm saying Amanda and like I kind of felt bad for her just because like she is part of that duo and I remember even telling Hannah I was like Hannah like

that was kind of not cool to Amanda but then Hannah was like listen you didn't see the like 17 hour Kyle yelling at us and how weird that was. And also, Amanda's, like, one of those girls where she hates awkward situations.

I mean, so do Hannah and I, but, like, I feel like the way she copes with awkward situations is kind of, like, looking at Hannah and I and laughing with us. So I could tell that the conversation about the wedding was making her uncomfortable. So we were kind of on the sideline trying to diffuse it and, like, laugh about something,

maybe change the subject. And then Kyle just went. crazy. But you and Amanda got really, really close this summer, like closer even than the previous year. Yeah, we definitely got a lot closer because we were both in serious relationships. Hannah was, you know, like charming Luke and chasing that. And so it was kind of just the two of us. And everyone loves to go out after we have parties and go out Fridays and Saturdays. And we kind of need one night off. So everyone would go out and we would just be home alone and we had the best time. We would eat everything. Lay in bed. Watch like Instagram videos. And yeah, we just naturally

got really close. And that's cool with like producers and stuff. You're like, hey, remember I signed up to like party? No. Staying in and going on Instagram. Which is a dream. But definitely they want you to be you. Like they can't force you to do anything. You know, they'd never be like you have to go out tonight. Yeah. And half the time we go out, they aren't filming it anyway. So I'm not. Like most of the stuff happens at the house. And like you guys go to dinner and I, I mean, I'd be like dinner and, and, and home. Dinner is also so long. Like, we sit at those dinners for a really long time. And then, and you're, we're fighting at most of them. So then I'm exhausted. Like, fighting physically takes a toll on my body. Like, I get anxious after. I'm just like, so I can't

fight and then turn it off and, like, be cool. I have to, like, decompress from whatever happened. Um, so I went home a lot. I'm having a flashback to like your one of the last, I mean, I guess, fights where you were just, you went off on Lindsay. And like, she was like this. I don't know if it, I don't think it was editing, but she, I'm pretty sure she didn't answer you.

She didn't. I don't think she answered in the moment either. So why did you flip out at her? Because she, because she was trying to like come between you and Hannah, you felt. Um, so it was really more of like a buildup over time of things. I feel like I've never said or things that have been like pent up. And I, for me, like you can call me a lot of things and I am a lot of things. But I just got so enraged at the thought of her trying to say like maybe I was a bad friend to Hannah or like I wasn't being real to Hannah and not just I couldn't get over it. Because

I was like, I know that I can be a bitch and I can do all of these things, but I know for a fact that I'm not a bad friend to Hannah and anything I said to her behind her back or to Amanda or anything, I would say right to her face and have. And I was just trying to look out for her and I don't. I mean, I get that Lindsay was very excited when her, when Luke and Hannah hooked up because like your girl's like hooking up with the guy and same. And I feel the same way. But I just was like, I don't know if this is a good fit. But I tell me if I I'm wrong that my hunch about Lindsay has always been like she's not in the like, you know, she never became besties really with any of the girls. Yeah. And you guys have more. I'm trying

not to use the word click, but I'm just using different words. Um, but it always seemed to me, I'm like, oh, she's doing her own thing. Like she's cool with it. Like, it never seemed to the, an outsider that she was like. And I also think it would be human nature to be jealous, you know, if she was. Not human nature to destroy. draw relationships or be an asshole, but to be like, oh, like, they got so close and they vibe and they have the same thing. And I'm like kind of in and out and no one really like is so obsessed with me. But I always felt like she was like confident enough and independent enough to like be cool with the status quo that she had with like the girls. I thought that too. And because since last season

or my first season, I didn't really know anything that happened behind the scenes with Lindsay and Amanda, but if you look back into like the previous seasons, it was always like Lindsay and the twins and then Amanda was kind of on the outside. So then when we came in and we were the same age as Amanda and we kind of just naturally got along, it's basically just the reverse of what happened previous seasons. And, you know, they unfollowed Amanda. They like wouldn't invite her places. We always, whenever we do something, we always invite Lindsay. And also Hannah, Amanda and I never hang out. Like we love being home. So we'll like text, but like we never go do things. We're like, that would be insane. I don't want a friend who asks me to go do things. Oh my God. Thank you.

Can I just say, I was yesterday talking to my sister about it. My friend texted me like, you know, it's too bad. We haven't seen each other in a while. Like we should meet up at the park. And I told my sister, I never want to meet her at the park ever in my life. Like, no. Like, I have no desire ever to meet her at the park or anyone, really. I, if you- I can't go to the park, but I want to leave after five minutes. I don't want to meet you there.

I don't want to sit there with you. It is, thank you. You made me feel so much better. I didn't know if I was just crazy. If my friendship is, like, contingent on hanging out every so often, I don't want it. Like, I don't want it. I need- Oh, my God, I love you. Friendship that if I don't talk to you for three weeks, you still know we're friends.

I've just been busy. No, but it's also, you know, we can be funny about it. But I really think, you know, that friendship is more than the, you know, let's have a dinner date and put in our diaries because you do that. And you're in New York. I was living out of New York for a few years. I got back and I had to like make plans in advance and two weeks out and put in my diary and meet at sushi places. Right. And I was just like, you know, it's nice.

But like, that's not friendship to me. Friendship is like sending each other things on Instagram, you know, face-timing about a stupid thing, you know. So I love that version. Yeah. And I feel like that's what Hannah and I have. We, I mean, well, obviously, because of all of this happening, we haven't seen each other. But we never will plan a dinner like a Friday night. Yeah.

If we have group dinners, we always text each other. Hannah's always like, I'm going to be late. And I say, great, because I'm going to. leave early. So see, so you're not like, so you're ready to settle down, babe. Like, I'm sorry to break it to you. You're an old lady. I know. Okay. I'm scary. You know, but I mean, honestly, there's not, I mean, there's nothing actually bad to say about either of them. And I love Hannah too. But I was as a viewer, obviously Luke, to me, he's universally hot. Someone so told me like, no, he's not. And I was like, she was gay. But I was like, you can put that aside and just be objective. So he's obviously universally hot. And he came in with the hots for Hannah. And, she, you know, obviously, at first I remember she was like trying to be like, I don't know, but then was like into it, Avi. And then the sex thing came up, which is like weird that it's a

discussion. I agree with him on that. Like the fact that it was a breakfast bacon thing is like weird. But at the same time, it's also weird for two people who are attracted to each other and to each other not to have sex. So I want to know your whole thing about it. And why you weren't I guess, so supportive or wanting that for Hannah. So just in terms of like TV stuff, we have to talk about everything. Like you're not getting by any summer without being something being brought up

that you're uncomfortable with. So like us asking them if they've had sex, it's like, yeah, well, everyone's going to wonder when they're watching the TV show. So like we're wondering too. And like I put it in terms of like Hannah or Kyle and Amanda. They have to talk about everything on their relationship. I mean, he cheated on her on national television and, like, they had to talk about it. So I get that Luke was uncomfortable, but that's

just like what you signed up for. So I didn't really feel bad about that. But there were just a few things that I saw from him that I was like, oh, I don't know if like my best friend should get caught up in this. One, I think it was cute that he was flirting with her, even though he knew she had Armand. but, and they kept a very platonic and PG and whatever. And then when she was done with Armand, I feel like he totally changed his tune. Like he was like, well, now I'm talking to someone. And I was like, okay, whatever.

And he was like, I'm open and honest. But like, no, you weren't because we had to drag that out of you that you were talking to someone. Right. And then they were hanging out all week, like all the time. And him saying, I don't want to sleep with you because I don't want to complicate things. I just felt like was a tactic of

I don't want to date you but I don't want you to go out and get anyone else but Paige that still doesn't make sense to me why he wouldn't sleep with her I still don't get it because I'm like not complicate things but Hannah's literally being like let's have fun and have sex

right I think he didn't want to look like a bad guy that's what I think he had sex with her and then didn't pursue anything on TV She didn't want that in general. She didn't want to date him. They could have had sex once and then never talked again. She would have been fine. But I don't think he wanted to look like a bad guy. That's, I mean, I'm pretty sure I said this somewhere, not to his face. That would have been badass of me. But because that's what he said to me too. He was like, you know, it's already complicated. And to me, I'm like, you like, you're attracted to each other. You're attracted to each other. You have a good time. It doesn't. doesn't make sense, like, unless you don't have a penis or, like, something weird. Right. And...

I was like, maybe he has a family and a wife. And that's what I thought, too, I said, IRL, he wouldn't have probably been able to to not do that. And maybe because he's on a show. And not to say that he's, like, you know, put on a whole front, but maybe because he's on a show, I thought, too, like, he knows. everything is discussed. And if they do have sex, you're going to talk about it. And if he's a dick after the sex. But still, that's some willpower, like, to just not penetrate, you know, this whole

time. And then part of me was, I thought the same thing. And I kind of at one point was like, okay, I get it. We are on a TV show. Maybe he doesn't want to look bad. Let's see what happens when we're done filming. And still no penetration. Right. So then I was like, oh my God. So did he like her at all? Like then I started to second guess it too. and Hannah and I have talked about it. It's also like a roller coaster of emotions for her, which is exactly what I didn't want her to have to go through of like, well, I don't know if he likes me.

I don't do we want, does he want something? Or like, are we going to hook up? You know, it's just, it was like so many questions. And I was like, we don't need that. This is my feeling about Luke. I think he loves Hannah. I think he thinks she's super cool and fun. She makes him laugh, like all this shit.

And as women, we know, like dudes love. having like a girl in their lives that they can like talk to about stuff like he has sisters he loves that shit um apparently he's a chatterbox i didn't know that before and i feel like hannah like really fills that role for him and that's why i did agree with you you know when you were worried for her because i feel like she even without knowing it like and she'll you know she's a strong woman and she can hold her own and whatever. But I feel like even without knowing it, he's like sucking her in, you know, to his world, but not giving her. And he's like enjoying this like, oh, I have this girl. I can FaceTime her five times a day. I can talk to her about everything. She's funny.

She's cool. We can make out. But like, what are you? But he wants that role. And I guess that like is enough for him at this point. I totally agree too. I always felt like he loved her as a person. loved having her as a friend but i never wanted her to not talk to someone else or not for someone else because she was like caught up in him and he kind of i mean he does have her caught up and then even when he hears like she's talking to someone he like brings it up and it's like oh like you're talking to someone it's like yeah but like we're not dating we're not you know so do you think she secretly loves him i think he definitely i think he definitely i think i think at some point if he started to act right and was like do you want to date and like they started

having sex I think she would definitely date him I think so too I think she secretly loves him yeah yeah that's I mean listen he's fucking likable yeah you actually not like I know Amanda was like triggered by him city like she was wow but it didn't seem like you like had any like you were just worried about Hannah Yeah, I don't like dislike him as a person at all. I've hung out with him many times like when we were done filming. He's great to have like around. He adds in like a quirky sense of humor. He like says things and you're like, what the fuck does that have to do with literally anything? Like talking about maple syrup for like an hour. I'm like where did this last hour of my life go? So like I like him as a person. I was just and I'm usually very good at reading people. And for some reason I could never get like a. a read on him. I was like, is he like actually really smart and we're all dumb? Or is he like dumb and he is playing the game? Like I could never tell. And, but he is like a genuinely nice guy. But I just knew that Hannah would get involved with him and he would do some like rigamarole or something and she'd get like, you were like more than just a little worried. Like you cried.

Yes. Well, then it starts to bubble up because I was like, then after, after I felt like Hannah wouldn't tell me anything about him and was only telling Lindsay and had like the next morning. I was like, did you hook up with him? Like, I'm still your friend. I still want to know like the dirty details. So then I started to get really hurt that like I was like, oh my God, now she's not even talking to me about it. And I've lost my heart over this. Like I don't even give a shit about this guy enough to lose my friend. And that's really why I cried. And probably you were drinking also. Oh, of course. Yeah. No, that was really sweet though. I could tell that you cared a lot.

And you always said, like, this shit isn't going to ruin my friendship. But you guys got really, really emotional. And, I mean... So emotional. To the point where, like, our producers actually were crying. Because they were like, that's one of the realest moments

we've ever seen you two have. Because no one planned on crying. Yeah. But... But... Because Hannah was very honest. She told Amanda, like, you're obviously projecting,

which I like that she said that, like, in her face. But, and I could tell that Hannah and Amanda were drifting. And even Hannah, to me, Amanda had a lot of little digs at her. Yeah. That, like, even as a viewer, I noticed, like, you know, she said Hannah only talks about herself. Like, she had some issue with her this summer. What do you think it was so much? Hard because the three of our friendship is,

our humor is very sarcastic. So, like, I could walk by you and be like, you're a fucking bitch. And, like, but we know that we're joking with each other, but sometimes I think Amanda said things and they actually really hurt Hannah, but Hannah couldn't say, like, wait, are you being serious or are you joking?

And if I was like, I'm joking. But something did hurt Hannah. And then I felt like that just built up over time. And that's kind of where the animosity was. And I never wanted Hannah to feel like she couldn't vent to me about Luke. Because she would definitely tell, Amanda and I certain things and then we'd be like ah but then her and Luke would be fine but every girl

does that every girl does that a million times I'd be like no actually he's just stressed like maybe I'm just like okay well you said you fucking hated him yesterday I'm like but it's because he's stressed so I just never wanted her to feel like she couldn't still vent to us and I felt like Amanda was making it a little hard for Hannah to continue to vent because Amanda was like well then you shouldn't be with them and was very matter of fact. And it's hard to be on the other side taking advice from Amanda who forgave a serial cheater. Right. So that was, and Hannah always said like our relationships, mine with Luke and yours with Kyle is so incomparable because we're not dating. We're not. How are people comparing it though?

It's like, I didn't even get it. It's like, okay, this happens on Summerhouse. This happens on Summerhouse. But so they have a date, right? Kyle and Amanda. They have a date. It's in, September, but I have no idea what's happening. Yeah, Amanda, we obviously had to cancel her bachelorette and her bridal shower was canceled. So it's, uh, um, speaking of Luke, him and Jules were new this season, uh, he, like, blended in, which is also annoying. Like, who comes on a show just so easily? Like, no one even knew he was new. It's like, he just like, no one cares. Like, he's just there. And Jules,

had a really like hard time she was up your asshole I was concerned I think she felt the most comfortable with me because I think she felt like we had the most things in common so like when the other like clothes right what else it was just kind of like an effortless thing like we would talk about makeup and we talk about boys and we talk about clothes and stuff and I just feel like she felt like we were the most similar. But it's hot. I mean, girls are fucking tough. It's tough. I mean, even though I came in with Hannah, like, I was still petrified of Lindsay. Like, I was like, I would be petrified of Lindsay.

Like, so I get what Jules was going through. And Jules also came in alone. And she didn't really have, like, another new person to confide in because her and Luke, like, didn't vibe. Not that along. Yeah. Was, like, the most odd summer long fight, but like, whatever. So I definitely, I did feel bad for her, but yeah, she's okay. Right.

She cried a lot about not being kind of accepted by you guys. And I mean, the scene that comes to my mind is like Carl telling her to leave as he's like foaming at the mouth. I was like, what is happening? He was so angry. So I'm sure there's stuff we haven't seen as to why people disliked her. Some of the shit that was talked about was like people thought the her and Jordan thing was really weird. Well, there's something about reality TV that I've learned in the past two years and more so this year. You can go on TV and you can like project any persona that you want people to

think of you as, but there's something with the camera that you just can't lie to it. Like either way it's going to, you could be the best actress in the world, but either way it's going to pick up and be like, she's lying. So I think people felt like the Jordan thing. was just, like, not authentic and, like, did you really like him? And, like, are you really upset that you're not to get? Like, so I just think it put, like, a bad taste in people's mouths. Um, but I, I mean, like, I just didn't give a shit. You didn't care. But you were nice to her. Yeah. Yeah. I would never want her to feel. I mean, because she actually is, like, a very sweet girl. Like, she just, you know, she's very nice. So. And she was very nice. So.

And she was very nice to you, like, very nice to you. I never felt like she, like, did anything. And I never felt like I didn't get along with her. Yeah. You know, it's just, I didn't really know her. Like, I didn't know anyone she knew. I didn't.

She moved from Chicago. Like, we didn't have that much to talk about other than, like, we like Instagram and we, like, close. I kind of feel bad for her now because, like, she really tried. And, like, she, I mean, It's her prerogative. I mean, she, to hook up with whoever she wants to hook up with. I just hope that she didn't do that out of, like, you know, kind of be.

Very hard to come on a TV show in general, but also to a group of friends that's kind of established. And we already had things that were pent up that we wanted to talk about. And regardless at one of our dinners, it's so hard to get a word in anywhere. So if you're like talking and no one really cares about what you're even talking about, it's going to get dismissed. And it's going to be like, what's the next? Oh, my God. Didn't you say in your, when you guys did the roast?

Didn't you say like something like, were you even here to your roast? Your roast was good. No, everyone was like texting the night before and was like, my roasts are so mean. Like all this stuff. And I was like, shoot, I have to rewrite mine then and like be super mean. And then I got up and I was like the only mean one. I was like, no. No, but it was good.

It was really good. Well, I have to ask you. I know you probably can't tell, but you usually start filming and like, yeah, a few weeks. We usually start the last week of June. Is there anything you can share with us as to like what is going to happen? Well, if I knew, I wouldn't be able to share, but genuinely, I have no idea. We know nothing. How hard is it to do a quarantine house and, you know, check you all before?

I don't know. I feel like there's a lot of like legal obligation because we all have like cameramen. And, you know, where would they quarantine? We have producers. Yeah. And we also, like, parties is a big thing for us. And, like, we wouldn't be able to have any parties. I hate your parties.

I can't even watch them. Like, they give me anxiety. Like, through the, I'm like, no. Like, it's, like, too many people. It's too many costumes. It's like, it's, I'd be okay without the party part. Can I tell you that I'm so over themes? Like, I can, I can.

How are you under themes? my question. It is too, wow, I can't even, I can, I don't dress up on Halloween anymore. I'm like over Halloween. Yeah, it's a lot. And certain people in our house live for them. I can't. I was going to say Americans, but like, I don't know. I wanted to talk to you about, I know you love like celebrity stuff too, right? Love. So we have to talk about some things. Dare you D? Yeah. Okay. Chloe Kardashian's picture this week. That's it. We're done. What did you think about, I put up a hilarious pose, I think, and I was just like, I just wrote something funny,

but then the internet started really like exaggerating. Like, I was like, wait, do people not know this is just like Photoshop? She didn't actually get facial reconstruction overnight. Like, she always does like really absurd face tune. So, like, what did you think about it? So when I first saw the picture, I was like, oh, you went ham on, like, the face June app. Like, good for you. And then part of me was, like, for the past 10 to 15 years, all she's probably heard is, like, you're the ugly sister. Right.

You're a cat sister. Like, so even if she did get a whole new face, like, who cares? Let her get a whole new face. People were probably so mean to her. but also if I felt like I wanted a whole new face, I would tell you in detail everything I did. Really? I got clothes done.

I got my lips done. You know, so I just feel like if she was a little bit more authentic about it. Yeah. Like, okay. Or all of them. Like, admit your asses are fake. Like we're not even there yet. We're not even like admitting about the asses.

So we're way far out about the face. But I just think this picture specifically like over the years she's gone and worked done, duh. And I feel bad because she really did get called the fat sister and the ugly sister and the one that doesn't look like any of them. And I'm sure that took a toll. How skinny would she look without the ass is my question. Because I would love to see all of it. I mean, I feel like Kendall is the only one that doesn't have a fake butt. Yeah. Even though she might, I don't know. Even though there is something interesting with her hips. There is something. She loves her torso. I've never seen a woman. Love her. I love her.

her in love with her torso like Kendall. It is an obsession. I actually had to unfollow Kylie in this quarantine because I realized she was bad for me. I couldn't. I felt like it was bringing out. Like I can watch Kim and, you know, get amused by it and think it's funny or whatever. And I also have her a lot of respect for Kim because she is like an amazing businesswoman. But Kylie, I just have zero respect. She makes me angry. Yeah. I can totally see that. I can totally see that. What are your thoughts on, like, her being a self-made billionaire?

Do you think that's one of the things? You're not. And it's Chris's company. Like, let's be fucking honest. Like, she bought two, I mean, I can't.

I just, I think I had followed the day she was with Stasi baby at her pool and there were just too many, like. And they were doing like TikTok. Okay, also I've been watching their TikToks.

And I'm like, how are you going to say that your bodies aren't made? You can't even. even move. They can't move like their torsos I feel like. I feel like everything sucked in. Stasi baby got the Kylie body

special. So did Ariel makeup by Ariel. Did you see her male? No. Her makeup artist got her body and he is a male which like whatever everyone do what they want but it's just like so many people that are getting these bodies and these hips and like I've had a big

ass my whole life and like I don't get really like why you would pay for it. I'm also interested at what their bodies will look like when they're like 80. Like I'm so interested. It's going to be cray cray. Another thing I wanted

to talk to you about, which I'm sure you've heard about now that you're also like semi-podcasting is did you hear about the Collar Daddy stuff? Crazy. There's so many intricate things about it. It's so interesting. Like I don't know why. I was like is this quarantine to me

like bored and like captivated by this or is this like actually captivating because I don't know the pot I never listened to the podcast because it's like how to take come off your face or something and that's not really my style but um but people fucking love it and there was this drama uh the caller daddy drama if you guys don't know it's um uh these two girls have this podcast for our daddy under Barstle. They're a huge, huge, huge company. And they wanted to maybe leave. And then one of them wanted to leave. And then one of them is going to stay. And they don't like own their stuff. It's this whole drama. Look it up. I watched. Did you watch the YouTube video by Alex? I watched some of it. Did you get to the end or no?

I like skimmed through and then I got to the end where she said, see you on Wednesday. Did you get chills like a lame-ass motherfucker like me? I was like, oh, are They're the most famous girls in the world. And then Barstool had the merch up, like, instantaneously. They're playing us fucking all. I got to the conclusion today. I went to, my podcast comes out Tuesday, so I went into the podcast app and I see, like, number one, call our daddy. And I'm like, we're, we all've been duped.

Chris Jenner works hard, but Barstool works harder. Did you, right? You need to. You need to, did you put it up? I didn't. I just made it up right now. I'm going to, like, not credit you in the minute. So we're almost done.

So the giggly squad, you and Hannah have a, it's a Instagram live that we do every night. And the only nights we don't do them is if I get too drunk during the death. So I've canceled. You guys, like, hung out yet in quarantine. Like, what's happening? She's actually very crazy about, like, her and her mom, like, I feel like, do not want anything to do with people. So I was like, I mean, we could hang out, like in the backyard six feet apart,

but then we were both like, no. That's not going to happen. So what do you talk about, though, on the giggly squad every night? So we actually, we've been laughing about it because we were like, when we do a podcast, we have to be, like, somewhat structured. It's honestly, we go rogue. Like, I have each night prepared, like, some front page news stories. I have like three to five that like if we have a lull in talking, we'll like talk about that.

But we never finish an actual thought. Like we go off onto tangents and then we get so deep down a rabbit hole. And sometimes I'm like, how did we get here? Like we talk about celebrities. We talk about dating. We talk about friends. It's just it could be a whole. It's just we take the vibe of the live and we just go with it.

The vibe of the live. Yeah. Listen, I'm Dee. I love it. I think that a lot of lives are annoying. but this isn't one of them. Thank you. That was our main concern.

We were like, we don't want to be losers and annoying. We don't want to be Justin Bieber. Yeah, well, we won't do it anymore. The moment I'm like, I'm a fucking loser, I'll stop. Paige, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you for having me.

This was so fun. So fun. So easy to talk to. You too. I love your flower and your long hair. I don't know if everyone should. her hair got long. You guys follow page de Sorbo for on Instagram.

And are you Twitters? Are you on Twitter? I feel like a huge Twitter person, but I have one. I just like browse. People are mean there. It's crazy that there's, it's such a different demographic from Instagram. Twitter is, I'm like, oh my, oh my.

Can I just ask you then one last question that I want to ask? Do you feel the love like 100% from Bravo fans and stuff? Do you ever get any, like, negative comments or... Because you said he were scared to go on reality TV because of that. Yeah. Um, so this season, I definitely felt like half and half. There was still people that really liked me. And then there was half people that, like, despise my entire existence.

Really? Yeah. And I would, I got a lot of, I get a lot of different comments than like Hannah will get or Amanda will get. Amanda gets a lot of mean ones about her relationship. Hannah gets like, you're just, like, you're annoying. You're not funny. I get a lot of attack on, like, that I think I'm too good or, like, you're not as pretty

as you think and, like, things like criticizing my body or my face. So I get, like, a different type of hate. And during the season, it was the first time I'd ever really felt that over, like, I mean, when you have, like, 200 people at a time telling you that they hate you. It was definitely hard, but now I feel like I just, like, I don't care. Like, I could do another season. I could get the same amount of hate and I feel like I'd feel way better about it. I'm shocked that you're saying that you get hate.

Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we definitely all get a lot of different. Do you block? Oh, I'm a big blocker. Like, block. I delete comments too and people like call me out for it. But I feel like if you leave a mean, if like someone comments something mean and you leave

it up, then the next person who comes who wants to comment something mean, they're like, oh, well, that person did it so I feel more comfortable leaving it. Or, like, I'd rather just have none of it. So if someone DMs you something, mean you'll just block them or will you answer them and then block them? DEMs, I don't look at as much. But when I do, like, come across them, no, I sometimes I've engaged. So where do you see the, where do you see the mean comments on like? Like, under my pictures.

Really? Yeah. But it's kind of dissipated over it. Like, since we're not airing anymore, I don't really get, you know, because it's like people that actually like me have like, like stayed following me. Yeah. That's the fucking point, people. You don't like someone. Don't follow them. Right. Me with Kylie.

Right. Just don't. I love reality TV. I watch everything. Never once has it crossed my mind should I like go on like Lisa Vanderpump's Instagram be like I hate that outfit. Never has that crossed my mind to do that. No, these are crazy, crazy people and reality TV. I remember like Vanderpump I love and. even at like I'm first of all I'm scared of jacks and I don't want him to ever like block me so I'll never like want him to see but but I can talk shit about jacks I don't need to talk shit to jacks about jacks exactly go home and talk to your friend like a normal person like a normal person but we don't give attention to any hate us but I'm surprised because I feel like most people would love you no well thank you they don't But I'm glad that your thing, your thin got a little skinner.

Your skin got a little thicker. Thank you. And again, thank you. And I'll just talk to you soon. All right. Bye. Bye, babe. Thanks for the podcast.

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