Not Skinny But Not Fat - Summer House’s Hottest Addition w/ Luke Gulbranson

Episode Date: May 12, 2020

I hope this doesn’t count as cheating, but I have the hottest Bravolebrity, Luke Gulbranson, on the podcast today. He joins me from the middle of the Minnesotan woods where he is – worki...ng on his lake house – true fucking story guys. This hot mountain man tells me all about how he joined Summer House, what the deal with Hannah really is, where they stand now, who he’s closest to in the house, and who he DOES NOT vibe with (cough cough, if you watched the reunion, you probably already know).  The Not Skinny But Not Fat Podcast is produced by The Podglomerate.  Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoicesSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I go in the basement by the bar and I'm sitting down there doing it and I'm literally, I'm shaking. I'm literally, my teeth are chattering and people are talking and I'm like, I can't focus on anything other than the fact that I'm trying not to shiver and shake on a fucking, like, because I was I was literally shaking so bad. This is not skinny but not fat and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't. I can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. If you're enjoying the Not Skinny but Not Fat podcast, which I really hope you are and I'm assuming that's why you're here, then please go to Apple Podcasts and rate and review us. That is the most helpful and supportive and loving thing you can do for the podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:53 So like I said, go to Apple Podcasts, rate at five stars, write a little titi-bitty, and let me know that you did, and I will give you a big virtual hug. Luke Gal Bronson from Summerhouse is in the house, but not in my house. He's actually in Minnesota. Does it annoy you when people say Minnesota with the like fake accent? I mean, listen, if it's fun for people to say it, they can, but it does get kind of annoying because I mean, I don't know. I mean, I don't notice my accent. I do sometimes, but not all the time. Can you say Minnesota for a second? Minnesota. Yeah, it's not. as funny when you do it. Yeah, I know. People
Starting point is 00:01:31 Yeah, people always make the Minnesota accent stronger than it actually is. I mean, Hannah did say it like 17,000 times at the beginning. I even like, I even said something to her about it. I was like, you won't stop. Like, you say Minnesota more than you talk about tennis.
Starting point is 00:01:49 I think that was her way of flirting with me. So you were born and raised in Minnesota. I'm going to say it normally and not annoying. And what, in what age did you move out Was it to New York or did you try California? No, I actually moved to Minneapolis for college and I played football and hockey when I was 19.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Did you get a scholarship? No, I didn't. It's my academic scholarships. I kind of wish I had gone the junior route for hockey and went somewhere else for hockey. But I was going to school for biology and then I wanted to go pre-med, so I kind of just wanted to get it out of the way.
Starting point is 00:02:23 So I ended up going there and I got hurt my freshman year playing hockey. And then I ended up going to New York. Yeah, I just, I basically got discovered for modeling and acting and it. It wasn't ever something I planned on doing it. It just kind of found me. It fell on you in New York or in Minnesota. Yeah, that makes sense. It's usually in the smaller towns, you know? Like I've walked around New York a lot. No one, you know, stopped me yet. No, but it's usually, you know, those stories. It's like Johnny Depp, like in Kentucky, like, found all those old time Hollywood people have
Starting point is 00:02:59 those annoying lucky stories of like being just like offered demi more like so many of them um and usually they're in like small town so you're more noticeable um so were you doing acting modeling stuff before moving to new york um no i i mean i had people tell me that i should model uh model i never wanted to act a day in my life it was i was an athlete so um and and modeling wasn't even really something I ever really wanted to do until the opportunity presented itself. And then, I don't know, I kind of just was rolling with the punches and I'm a faithful guy and I thought, well, shit, maybe that's what I'm supposed to do with my life because not everybody gets that opportunity. So I ended up going to New York and fortunately signed with Ford for
Starting point is 00:03:46 models and innovative artists for TV and film in New York and LA. And then I started studying acting and absolutely fell in love with it. Where'd you study acting? Oh man, I've studied. I studied with Catherine Gately and Richard Poole. They used to own the Gately Pool Studio, New York. Now they run the theatrical department at N.I.U. Northern Illinois University. Then I studied with Sheila Gray briefly, Terry Knickerbocker for a bit, Jamesville Mayor for years, and most recently with Anthony Abson in New York.
Starting point is 00:04:20 So I've studied for years. But I love it. You know, it's not work. It's fun. I know. Acting is so fun. Have you had any luck in getting, like, good roles? Yeah, you know, it's been quite a journey for me.
Starting point is 00:04:33 It was kind of, for me, if acting, it was the same with modeling, it was a struggle for a long time, and then things kind of started to pick up. And for me, with acting, it was, it was kind of a bit frustrating because I would get so close to really big roles. But I was never given the role, it was like I was too green, you know, because my resume wasn't long enough. I had the chops, but it was like people wouldn't really take me, serious. What is that like a bear? What's happening? No, I don't know what the hell. It's fine. There's no bear. We do have bear here. That's for sure. But my garbage was all over my yard the other day. I was like, fuck, it was either a bear or raccoon. I don't know. We need to give you a visual because we're doing this podcast via Zoom today. Luke is in Minnesota at his lake house, which he is remodeling. Like what you're working on it with his like he's Noah from the notebook right now is what's happening. Except like who's Ali. We don't know. But
Starting point is 00:05:27 like the lake is beautiful like I need you to like take a canoe like put Hannah in it have it rain and be like we're still not over and like I need like you know you guys don't understand this is out of a movie what is happening it looks so beautiful but also creepy and you're there alone
Starting point is 00:05:46 like what about murderers and bear I don't worry about that stuff it's pretty safe there's not a lot of people around here so if there is someone I mean you know usually keep to yourself plus I don't know we have I mean, I've got a shotgun and some things in the house if I ever needed them anyway. Wait, so how does this guy, you, you're New York, but you're also in, like, Minnesota, like,
Starting point is 00:06:11 with bears, like, how does that, what is the balance, like, do you miss the city? Do you like cities and cabs and trains and smoke, or do you like where you're at now? Yeah, for me, I like a balance of both. I mean, I'm a country nature guy, first and foremost. That's just the way I was raised. it's who I'm always going to be. It's what I love. But New York City is the greatest city in the world, in my opinion. And it's grown on me so much. And I've created such a great group of friends and there that it's like my family away from my family. And I miss them dearly right now.
Starting point is 00:06:42 Are we talking about summer house people or people? Yeah, summer house people. The guys I coach hockey with, friends from acting. I've got friends from all different types of walks of life out there, you know. But no, yeah. So I love New York. I mean, there's just, it offers, so much and I miss it when I'm not there, the convenience of it. And, um, you know, that's where I'm studying my acting. So, and doing the things. I coach hockey there. Um, so I miss the kids a lot. Uh, they're, they're really, uh, big parts of my life, uh, them and their families. There's some really great families. And, um, so yeah, I miss a lot about New York and, in the people there. So how long have you been in the cabin? Uh, I left New York on, on March 12th. I came home,
Starting point is 00:07:20 isolated for a couple weeks, was sick for a couple weeks, possibly with what could be COVID. First of all, let's talk about this for a second. Andy Cohen. said on, I was going to say national television, but pretty much, he was like, and Luke, who you know, had corona. And then I'm like, wait, say a what now? Like, he just like, so what, you had coronavirus? Yeah, so basically, well, because you know, Andy and I was on the show with Andy. And, um, oh, and the watch what happens. Yeah. And it was a few, a few days after that, I feel like is, or a week after he had said that he had come down with the coronavirus, right? So, um, I had reached out to him. Wait, you were there.
Starting point is 00:07:56 In person. Yeah, with him on the show. Oh, it was before it was okay. So it was shortly after, it was just shortly after that he had come out and said that he had been confirmed with it. So I was like, okay, shit. So when I came home, I had gotten sick and I didn't have what they were calling symptoms of it at that time. I didn't have a fever. I didn't have a cough.
Starting point is 00:08:15 And I didn't really have trouble breathing. But I had the worst body aches. I couldn't fucking move. And I lost my taste and smell for six days. And I was just, yeah, it was a battle. The struggle was real. I had so much sinus pressure. I got a really bad earache. It was all through here, like in my face, in my head, in my body. And I went into the doctor. And of course, they didn't give me a test because in northern Minnesota, they were like, if you're not old, you're not getting one period. And so I didn't get a test, but he goes, I'm pretty certain that you have it or had it and are probably on the tail end of it. So I reached out to Andy. And I was like, Andy, man, these are my symptoms. And I know you had it. He's such a cool guy, you know, so we're shooting the shit about it. And he's, and he's, He was just like, you know, take care. So that's why on the show he was like, Luke, who had Corona.
Starting point is 00:09:00 Oh, which like he could have said, I gave it to him also. Like, I infected him. Yeah, no shit, right? Thanks for the hug, Andy. It was nice meeting. Yeah. No. But no, he's a great guy.
Starting point is 00:09:12 And I was around. I have other friends that I found out after the fact, after like a month later, that I spoke with that I was around as well that had been confirmed to have it. So. Then maybe they got it from you? No, they had been doing. some traveling. I think they got it from traveling. Wait, so you were going to go quarantine in Minnesota anyway, like when the shit started. So you were already, but you were with family at the
Starting point is 00:09:35 beginning and now you're by yourself? No, when I came home, I didn't go around anybody. I stayed in my cabin and my cabin, I had to like, I'm sicker in a dog and I had to shovel my way in for like four hours to get into the dorks. There was so much snow here still. So how long are you alone in this cabin? Well, for a couple weeks and then, I mean, I stay here now. I'm remodeling it, but I'll go into town and spend time with my family now. I mean, I'm healthy. I see. Okay.
Starting point is 00:10:11 My mom has cancer. I don't mean to drop that on you, so I have to be very careful around her. Yeah, so we don't want to get her sick, so we're being very careful. Well, I hope she gets better. Is she getting treatment? No, she can't. It's a chronic form of leukemia. So we say a lot of prayers. And, you know, she does the best she can.
Starting point is 00:10:32 She's a strong woman. Well, I'm praying for you. And, you know, you said something yesterday on the episode before the reunion, which I, some people may think was cocky, but I connected to it in a way. What were you talking about on the episode? But you said that life, oh, maybe Andy, someone said this, that life has a way of sort of working out for you. Oh, that was a tarot card lady.
Starting point is 00:10:56 Oh yes, right, yes, yes. You're laughing. No, at that. But at the end of the day, like she said that to you. She said, you know, life seems to work out for you. And you felt that. And I feel like some people may be like, okay, like hashtag bless, hashtag privilege. But but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but, but.
Starting point is 00:11:20 No, it has a lot to do. I mean, if people, you know, everybody's going to have formal opinions on you. You're on a TV show. People are going to judge you and they're going to think everything they're going to think, but they don't know you. And I will tell you that I don't come for money and I'm very not, I'm not privileged at all, period. I mean, I lived on welfare as a kid. Like, we didn't have shit. So I'm not privileged at all, period. My dad was in jail. You know, we had a rough life. It was food stamps and that type of shit. My parents did the best they could. So when I say that things tend to work out for me, it's because I could have went one way with my life, but I chose to take a different path. And, and, you know, even with going to
Starting point is 00:11:52 college and playing hockey. And then, um, you know, that's why I was good at hockey, because all I did was my, my escape from all the bullshit in my life was, I would just go to the rink and play hockey for hours. That's all I did as a kid. And then you had to go and get injured. Yeah, I know. Uh, but, uh, so, so one of the reasons, um, I said that is because I am a faithful person and, uh, and my life wasn't the easiest, but the one thing that always helped me get through those tough times was my faith and my belief in God. And, um, I don't push religion on people. I'm not that guy. Um, I think it'll find you. you either take it or you don't, and I was fortunate enough to find my faith.
Starting point is 00:12:27 And it's just helped me in a lot of times in my life, you know, because it hasn't been easy. If it wasn't for having faith in my belief in God, I don't know where the hell I'd be. And that's my truth, you know. Or belief in anything, because, like, I'm not like, you know, going to synagogue. But I think if you, you know, believe that things will work out for you and have faith, and just an attitude towards life that is, like, optimistic and positive and that things will be okay. There's so much to it.
Starting point is 00:13:00 I mean, we all have friends that are like, they're always, ugh, this happened to me and being negative about it and not seeing, you know, not seeing the bright side. So even if it's not specifically about Christianity or faith like that, then that's about my thing. I felt that for Carl, though, in that reading, he really got emotional. Yeah, no, he did. And I kind of actually did too, but they didn't hear it.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Oh, so Kyle wasn't lying when he said that everyone shed a tear. Yeah, we were all little. I was just, I mean, I was fucking drunk too, but anyway. Wait, let's talk about this for a second. Okay, Luke comes in, season four of Summer House, this like hunky, hot model dude. But let's put that aside for a second. You come in new, Jules comes in new. You like seamlessly blend in.
Starting point is 00:13:51 everyone loves you i mean not everyone we'll get to that but in terms of like it just didn't feel like you had any new person vibe like it almost felt like immediately you know you were in with the guys you were cool with them you were super easy going it just didn't feel usually on shows like this reality tv there's such a like you know differentiation and sort of like stigma like oh newbies new people. I feel like you didn't get that. Everything goes your way. You're so lucky. No, yeah, I wish everything went my way. Trust me. Um, no, I, uh, you know, you know, why things were the way they were. One is because, you know, the cast, you know, some people was a bit difficult. But at the end of the day, I feel like, um, you know, not everybody's, they're not all,
Starting point is 00:14:39 not everybody's really a bad person at the end of the day. And, and they're, you know, I think they give everybody a fair shake. Um, and I went into it with a mindset. that, you know, with acting and being on screen and stuff, I know it's one thing to be comfortable in front of a camera, but for me, it was, I've been in front of a camera before, and I didn't care about the cameras. I didn't care about a TV show. I went into it being like,
Starting point is 00:15:00 I hope I can have a great experience and make new friends and have an awesome memory. How did it happen? How did you get on the show? Was there like a casting? They found you? Well, I had known Kyle just from being out in New York City and the nightlife, just from going out and making small talk, you know, just being at bars. And we would just shoot the shit.
Starting point is 00:15:17 And he asked me if I wanted to spend the summer in the Hamptons. And I was like, well, I'm coming out of a three-year relationship, I'm kind of a mess right now. Like, for real, maybe I should do something different because I usually come to Minnesota for the summer. And I was like, oh, shit, why not? Well, then that's when, you know, you realize what it actually is. And then you clearly, yeah, you have to meet. You meet with people, you know, with the show. Have you seen it before?
Starting point is 00:15:41 No. Did you know? No, I don't. I don't, I don't, I don't, I never really watched reality TV outside of like dual survival and shit on Discovery. I wasn't like a big reality guy. I always watch a scripted TV because of acting. I liked good writing and good acting. So you never like
Starting point is 00:15:54 you, so you came in not knowing like anyone? No, I had no idea. I mean, I did watch a little bit of the show because once I realized what it was and I was getting myself into, I had to do my homework and be like, well, is this something I'm going to do or not?
Starting point is 00:16:12 And I sat down with my manager, my theatrical manager, and we discussed things further and, you know, I clearly I made the decision to do it. Are you happy that you did? Yeah, it was a great experience. I mean, I walked away with a great group of friends, and I do have a lot of great memories, and I grew as a person a lot because of it.
Starting point is 00:16:30 And I will say that, you know, we got a bit off track there. I was going to say something, but we talked about, we talked about... That's what I do. Look, I get off track. It's fine. Yeah, I'm all over the map. Like, Hannah does the same thing. I always tease her. I'm like, Hannah, squirrel. I know, could you imagine me and her doing a podcast together ends up being like four hours.
Starting point is 00:16:54 That's the best, though. That means you're having a good time. You guys vibe. Yeah, for sure. But no, I was going to say the one thing I say I grew a lot from the shows because, you know, you're put in situations like in situations with Amanda and Paige that were really difficult for me and with Jules, but, you know, I, as tough as it was for me, I grew a lot as a person because I had to learn how to deal with things without reacting really and getting upset.
Starting point is 00:17:22 And I realized that I'm able to do that. In the past, I would have probably gotten a little pissed off and not let someone treat me like that. But I realized that sometimes you just have to take a beating and lick your wounds and move on. Because I saw times, I feel like, do you know that meme where it's like where you see like someone's fist? Just like, so I feel like I could see you holding yourself back. so many times and were triggered mostly by the sex thing that everyone was in your shit and and even to me and I love reality TV and I I've watched you know reality TV shows that have nothing to do with my life I mean even the way you guys the rave the last episode rave like I
Starting point is 00:18:04 physically like watching it even I'm like I'm so old and like Hannah has invited me to a couple and like looking back I'm like thank like I would like I would like I I don't know how you guys do it. It's crazy to me. It's legit insane. Listen, you guys are crazy. The rave, the outfits, like, oh my God. It's fun, though.
Starting point is 00:18:25 It gets to be a lot of fun. Yeah, yeah, you can't be cynical for that kind of a thing. You have to devote yourself to the theme and to the thing. But what was I saying? Oh, my God. Squirrel. Legit squirrel. Wait, oh, we're talking about the sex thing that I watch reality TV.
Starting point is 00:18:45 and so much shit happens on reality TV where I'm like, what is that? But the sex thing was like, even if you're on a show, it's a private thing that if Hannah wants to share with her friends in private and say, hey, we're not having sex or whatever, that's fine.
Starting point is 00:19:02 But in what world is it normal for them to confront the guy in public with everyone there at a dinner table, at the breakfast table, while you're eating bacon? And it was just so crazy to me. And I felt like that's something that really triggered you. And every time I feel like you were like, I'm gonna fucking.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, I mean, I'm not gonna lie. You know, like when people are coming at you and I tend to feel like I'm just a normal person. And I don't know. Like, I don't think I'm anything out of the ordinary when it comes to people and their lives they live. And if they're single, having fun and figuring out life after you get out of a relationship and just, you know,
Starting point is 00:19:43 like there's no recipe for shit. So I'm like, I am being truthful with Hannah during the week. We do hang out. I do talk to her. She does know all the shit. And then we, you know, on the weekends, we're all together. And I have like people coming at me from all these different directions. And I'm like, wait, I thought we were on the same page. I thought that this, what is going on? And my head would spin, right? And then I'm like, how are you coming at me in this way? I don't get it. Like, I just don't understand your mindset or your thought process. Like, what is wrong with? I don't, you know. I mean, obviously Amanda was triggered by you in an insane way. I mean, we saw the final episode yesterday where in the promos, it looked like Kyle had fucked up because they showed her freaking out in the kitchen, like freaking something. Yeah, it looks like Kyle, but Kyle didn't do anything. But it's legit you for saying she was like,
Starting point is 00:20:30 what happened with a tarot card reader? And you were like, oh, we had a moment or whatever. And she, you just got under her skin. And I was trying to figure it out. like is it you know jealousy is she projecting about her relationship with with which i'm glad hannah told her to her face a couple times like you're projecting like that's your issue but then like why would she be angry at you like some of it like how are you there as a normal person because you're like i'm a normal making sense of like how are these people yeah freaking out at me for something
Starting point is 00:21:04 that doesn't have to do with them like how did you compose yourself or take that you know i don't know i my sister is an amazing person she's like my therapist i call her i call her after a weekend and be like al i don't know how i can i can't do this i don't know she would talk to me and she gives me really good advice she's a very very very uh wise woman and she's always healthy i'm thankful to have an older sister not an older brother because she teaches me how to handle women better than what a brother could um but you know you know the thing is i don't know if it necessarily had so much to do with amanda being triggered um by her past relationship. I think that Amanda felt like because I wasn't sharing things with everyone and her
Starting point is 00:21:47 and Kyle have put themselves out there so much that it was starting to piss her off. I can understand that mindset. But, you know, my thought is that regardless of what you and Kyle do, regardless of the choices you make and the decisions you make, I'm not you and Kyle. I'm myself. I'm going to be me and I'm not going to do shit because I'm on a TV show. I'm Luke and you're going to get what you get. It was just so weird to compare the two relationships. Like, there's not, it's just like, it was like, what do Hannah and Luke have anything to do with Kyle and Amanda, aside from you both being on Summerhouse?
Starting point is 00:22:22 Like, I couldn't even understand how it was said in the same sentence. Yeah. No, I mean, I completely agree. And, and, you know, the thing that gets frustrating is, is, you know, I was said to have yelled at Hannah, which never happened. And Hannah, I'll tell you that. Wait, when did you? Well, on the show, it's like, why would you let a guy speak to you the way that he does and stuff like that?
Starting point is 00:22:42 And those were things that were said by Amanda. No, I remember for saying that, but I'm trying to remember you yelling at Hannah, which I don't. I've never, I've never yelled at Hannah day of my life, ever, off camera, on camera, ever. It's not immediate. I would have no, never. But for some reason, the narrative of the story, whatever, I don't, like I said, sometimes I'm like, I don't understand people, but whatever. I grew a lot because of it. I can tell you that.
Starting point is 00:23:09 So in every negative there's positives and I got some positive out of it. So it was interesting. And sometimes like your head just spins and you find a way. But I'll tell you this much though. You know, regardless of how things are, you know, Amanda did apologize to me after the show
Starting point is 00:23:26 and we were good. I, you know, there's still some times where I'm like, what is she saying after the fact? I thought we were cool. Like, why is she saying that now on social media? I don't understand this woman. I mean, you also don't know the reality world so much yet. And even probably you, not only being on the show and experiencing that,
Starting point is 00:23:47 you're then watching everyone's interviews and confessionals or whatever they're called and seeing everyone talk. I mean, that's where you talk the most shit. Yeah, but the one thing you're going to get with me is I'm an honest person. I'm truthful. And I don't do shit because I'm on TV unless I'm on a scripted television show where I'm asked to play a character. And then I'll dive in and play the character.
Starting point is 00:24:06 that character and have a ton of fun with it right but otherwise if i'm on reality tv i'm just going to be myself yeah and uh but but the thing is me and amanda are good i i i don't you know i i i really care about her and kyle and um like i said despite everything that happened um you know i think amanda you know like i said she apologized to me and and we're good and page apologized to me um as well um and and i don't think they're bad people i i have i have no animosity towards it So who are you closest with aside from Hannah from the show? I'm really close with Lindsay and Carl and Danielle.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And I mean, I'm tight with Kyle too, but I don't see Kyle Amanda or Paige very often because, I mean, they kind of have their own things going on, you know? You know what I was wondering, though? And I asked Lindsay this because I was talking to her on my podcast too, is I was like, you came into the house. your fresh meat, you immediately were like into Hannah, but I was like, where, how we're like, well, Paige, I guess has a boyfriend of man to house, Kyle, but I was asking Lindsay at the time, I was like, did your eyes not light up?
Starting point is 00:25:16 Are you not like, hello? And also you, how did you come into the house? And it looked like almost immediately you were like Hannah. Like how did that, how can you explain that that you were so quickly zoned in on her? I think the big thing is everybody from what I had known was in relationships really and Hannah just immediately as soon as I walked in and started giving me shit you know being from Minnesota so I felt like I I had a connection with her there like I was
Starting point is 00:25:47 like who is this girl like I was intrigued I was very intrigued because she lit like a little fire under my ass I was like who is this girl I want to know more because the way she's coming at me guys guys like that girls be you know spunky wear you know banana pajamas whatever Hannah's wearing or over there, um, talking about, you know, an appropriate shit. Um, it's not for everyone. But it definitely works to be real. And she's very real in that call your eye. Yeah, I was, Jules actually was also there. And I was like, Jules literally tried to hook up with everyone in the house that she never come on to you. Uh, the first night, I think she got a little frustrated. She, uh, we left because we were both new. We all went out after, uh, after dinner. And me and
Starting point is 00:26:30 Jules went back to the house. She's like, do you want to sit in the hot tub? And I was like, no, I want to sit by the fire and drink a beer. By myself. Yeah, I was like, I just want to chill. I'm sorry. I was, you know, because we had just gone out and I wasn't really like I was getting stepped on by these bros and like these places in the hand. I was like, I just need to go drink a beer by a fire right now. That's a thing. How are you able? That's what I'm wondering is like, like you said, bros. Like you're like drink a beer by the fire. You're wearing flannel. You're in the woods and these guys are like I mean even Kyle he's like a he's out of a frat movie like are those the type of guys that you're used to hanging out with how is it so easy for you to just
Starting point is 00:27:13 like accept these dudes be friends with them no judgment no like I'm used to other shit I think that you know I'm very fortunate that I've got a lot of I have a lot of friends that do a lot of different things. I've got friends that come from every different walks, all different types of walks of lives, all different ethnicities. And I think that when you have that in your life, it's more fulfilling as a person too. And it makes you a better person because you learn things from other people instead of just staying to one thing. It kind of gets boring. And I think that the more malleable is the word I'm looking for or adaptable you are to things. Just the better off you are overall. And there's always good in everybody,
Starting point is 00:27:55 regardless of what they do and or who they are so even if you look at someone and you know like for instance Jordan right okay so I watched the show prior right and I'm like okay I'm not going to like this guy I'm not going to get oh so you did watch it prior yeah well I did my homework oh you mean after you after you knew you were coming on okay so you watch like what the third season yeah so so then I um when I met him I I you know I had an opinion in my head but I was like I got I give everybody a fair shake. Like, I'm not that person. I want to, like, I need to know who the guy is. Then people always ask me, what do you think of Jordan? And the truth is, I have nothing wrong with him. He didn't do anything to me. He was a super nice guy. He was respectful to people around me and to me,
Starting point is 00:28:39 and he was just a really nice guy. And do you feel like the, I mean, edit, you got on the show or the way you came out on the show, are you happy about it? Do you feel like it was representative of who you are. I mean, yeah. There's times I'm like, oh, man. But at the end of the day, you know, we're all very real. I'm myself on the show. And if something comes across a certain way, I'm not in control of those things. And, you know, at the end of the day, I think if you are a good person at the end of the day, no matter what happens, you're not going to come across as a bad person or a dick. Or if you're a bad person you're not going to come across as like a saint yeah exactly and i exactly and i also think that you know people are going to form opinions on you based off anything things anyway so you're gonna get
Starting point is 00:29:30 good and bad reviews i should say from fans people giving you shit people that are like hey i really enjoyed watching you on the show and um you know it's just it's what you sign up for and you just have the majority though of the feedback is it i love you or is it like why are you a fuck boy i've got the majority of people that have spoken to me, at least via social media. I've said really nice things. And, you know, you get an occasional person that I'm like, wow, like, what are you doing right now that you're just into like making, like saying horrible things to me. But how's your skin? Is it thick? Are you able to take?
Starting point is 00:30:05 I don't let you bother me. Like I said, you got to take things with a grain of salt. You know, the people that are close to you, like your family, your friends, the people that really know who you are. That's really all that matters. The housewives love you. I remember saying that like Dolores Catania. has like fantasies about you or something. The house I's freaking love you. Yeah, Dolores is great.
Starting point is 00:30:25 Do Coogs stand a chance? I mean, anybody could stand a chance. Is it 10 over and 10 under? Wait, let's talk about Hannah then. Let's get into like, you know,
Starting point is 00:30:34 we need to talk about the, first of all, how old are you? Are you 30 yet? I'm 36. Thanks for making me. I know I really did. I like sort of take it back.
Starting point is 00:30:44 I should have been like, are you 40 yet? Yeah. Um, no. Uh, so you're 36 and you were supposed to get married. Yeah. Well, I bought a ring and I, I was going to propose and, and I was waiting to propose because I wanted to wait, you know, it, it was right, but then it things just, it didn't feel right after. Is this X from home or from the city? From the city. Yeah. So, uh, yeah. Yeah. So, uh, anyway, I, um, we ended up, uh, breaking up. It was, it was very hard. for me. And then mid-filming or afterward, I found out that she, I think she got engaged to somebody right away after we broke up. What? I mean, listen, I just what I was told. I don't talk to her. I mean, you can easily check, Luke. It's called stalking on social media or something.
Starting point is 00:31:36 Yeah, I don't do that because my feelings were so strong for her that it would, it would affect me in a negative way. So I just, as much as I would like to be a part of her life, I'm not there yet, I can't do that. No, don't be it. So your heart was broken. Absolutely, 100%. But does she know that you were going to propose? Yeah, after the fact.
Starting point is 00:31:57 Yeah. Yeah, she knew. But, yeah, it is what it is. So what year was that that happened, that you broke off? It would have been last March. Oh, last March. And then filming starts in August. So you were like...
Starting point is 00:32:12 We started in mid-June. Mid June. Oh, so it was fresh. Yeah. So that's why people give me a lot of, you know, people give me a lot of shit. But I was like, you guys don't understand. Like I'm, I'm like, I'm a mess right now. Like, I'm, uh, I'm trying to figure out things. I'm, I'm emotionally not in a very good place. Do you feel like you're at a better place now? I'm in a better place, but, you know, I live my life. But it is still, uh, you know, sometimes it, it is a bit, uh, it's a bit difficult. Um, but, you know, you just have to keep moving on because what's, what's, what's the point of sitting in the past? And, babe, I don't think you'll have a problem finding, you know, a girl's too. But, I mean, it is the right, the right one. So we wanted to get back to Hannah. So Hannah, she, you know, had a vibe. She's funny.
Starting point is 00:33:01 She's cool. She, like, pokes, you know, she's not like a Jules, let's say. Sorry, Jules. I felt so bad. Yesterday I was recapping the show. And all I could think is, like, Jules, you're being so pathetic. Like, just stop being pathetic. And I feel bad she got, I mean, her entrance into the group wasn't as seamless as yours.
Starting point is 00:33:21 And I'm sure we didn't see everything on the show. But let's do the Hannah, like what everyone wants to know, what you said on the reunion yesterday, you guys aren't together right now. Yeah, we are not together. Were you together after the show? We were like, we were, we kind of, I don't know if you could say we were dating, but we, like, I think it's kind of hard for me and Hannah not spend time together. It's just like we're so close and so tight that like I couldn't imagine not talking to her.
Starting point is 00:33:50 Like we talk every day. We definitely have a special connection and we definitely love and care about each other dearly. So why isn't it enough to be like boyfriend, girlfriend? You know, I don't know. I've never been in this situation before. Because it's like weird because it seems like you guys have a really strong friendship and you do have the chemistry. But for some reason it's not like enough. Like what's happening?
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yeah, I don't know. I don't think either of us really knows. But we are really good friends. And we talked the other night about it. And I feel like, you know, if we were both like, you know, maybe we're just better off just being really good friends. And I was like, you know, that's fine. We should we should do that.
Starting point is 00:34:34 And, you know, it's, like I told her, I said, I will be your, I'm your biggest fan, Hannah. And if you meet someone, I will, I'm like, I'd be so happy for you if you did. Why aren't you that guy? That's what you want to know. Why aren't you the guy? Why isn't it the like happy ending?
Starting point is 00:34:51 Hannah and Luke together penetration, which everyone wants to know about that, you know? And yesterday you confirmed on the reunion that there still wasn't the sex. Yeah. And I feel like, you know, for me with Hannah, I don't want to, I didn't want to, I mean, I don't know how to explain it, but I don't want to make it any more confusing than it already is, I feel like. And I feel like if we are just really good friends and enjoy each other and have fun that
Starting point is 00:35:20 way, there's more clarity and we have a better understanding. So it's not so confusing for everybody. Because, you know, that's one thing I was really worried about throughout the season was not being over my past and, you know, being so close with her and feeling it out. But at the end of the day, me and Hannah are going to be good no matter what. I know that for a fact. We're both mature people and we know we care about each other. And no matter what happens, we're going to be good.
Starting point is 00:35:47 And I told her that. I said, whether we're dating or whatever, we're going to either be dating or best friends forever. And that's, and I know that. Yeah, she's pretty much like your manager now. She's making you a podcast horror just like she is. Yeah, she's the best. You know, the thing is we look out for each other and we're there for each other.
Starting point is 00:36:07 And I am not the most savvy guy. comes to social media and all that stuff and she um you know i do go to her for questions with things because i i'm i'm busy building shit and doing things i'm not like but you know what look it's okay if it's like you're you don't have to be like doing tictox like we'll still love you you know do you even know what ticot is do you even know they actually asked us to do tictok so the reunion and i was like you guys oh oh right they all did it the like now i'm dressed thing wait you didn't do No, so listen, yeah, so the network's like, hey, you need to do TikToks for the thing. And I was like, okay, I was remodeling my cabin.
Starting point is 00:36:48 I'm running my business and I was just like flat out. I'm like, you guys want a video of what I'm wearing. I'm like, okay, well, I was like, I have time to run outside for my workshop right now and do that. But I'm like, listen, I don't do TikTok. I don't have TikTok. I have no desire to ever do TikTok. So I'll send you the video, but you're not getting TikTok. Wait, did they use it?
Starting point is 00:37:04 I forget. I'm trying to think. Yeah, they used it. That's so big and funny. And it was so quick compared to every. everybody else's. Everybody else had like this nice summer clothes on and I'm sitting here and I'm like, I was like, apparently I missed the memo on the summer of clothes.
Starting point is 00:37:22 I have my fucking work boots on and ripped jeans and a black shirt and this black hat. And I was just like, all right. Listen, stay true to you. Stay true to you. People like that. I just had to submit something, some video that I'm doing for for this organization. And it said, like, submit the video, say where you're from. and then it said, your favorite word
Starting point is 00:37:42 and your superpower. And I just literally didn't do that because I'm not gonna, like I hate that shit, you know? So like, here's the video. Yeah. I don't have a fucking, like I was gonna. I was trying to. I was like, my favorite word is BB
Starting point is 00:37:56 and my superpower is being crazy. But like, no, it's not me. Here's a fucking video. If you want to make something up and say my favorite word is like lemon and I, you know, whatever. Lemon, my superpower is, I don't give a fuck
Starting point is 00:38:11 Yeah, like no So I was like If they don't email back and say But wait, what's your superpower? Then we'll be good Yeah, that's hilarious So that's funny But I do want
Starting point is 00:38:22 Like I I can be a cynic and a critic But I also Like I even wanted Lindsay and Carl to work Yeah Like I think you said that too right? Yeah
Starting point is 00:38:33 Like I feel like I told Lindsay I was like I was watching the show And I put up like I ship I stand Which I hope you know what that means. Yeah, I didn't. I had to ask Hannah. I think it means that you want someone to be in a relationship. I got your vibe already. I got your vibe right. So, now you know. So, because you've got so many people shipping and standing you and Hannah. Yeah, that's one of it. So I even shipped and Stan Lindsay and
Starting point is 00:38:56 Carl is like if someone can turn Carl around, I feel like it's Lindsay. Yeah. This gotta work. So, and I felt the same way about you and Hannah. Like I didn't see, that's why, because you were saying it's confusing. That's why it's confusing. You see these two people. They get along they have this chemistry everything there so what isn't that's why i think it's so hard to accept because it's like okay with carl and lindsay it's like okay carl's you know a 40 year old baby and he's not ready but you're this guy who's been in a relationship you were ready to propose you seem serious even though you have your little things and hannah i mean you just seem like two people that maybe if you're, even if you're not looking for something serious right now, you're two people
Starting point is 00:39:40 who can recognize when something good is there and like go with the flow and not make like a big. So why, so why do you think it's, it's not if all those elements are there? I don't know. I don't know. And I also think time will tell with everything, you know, I don't, I don't really put any expectations on anything ever. I just kind of live and let life happen. And that's not a cop out either by the way for someone to say that like that's really my mentality i'm just like whatever i don't know um but but i think that you know with hannah i feel like um there there's definitely a connection there and and i don't know what'll happen with it but i know right now um we are literally best friends and we've we've talked about that and and that's kind of where we've left it yeah
Starting point is 00:40:27 so at the reunion you guys seemed like there was first of all you seemed a little pissed i don't know if that was you filming yourself, but your waist more smiley today. Oh, I was freezing. I was so fucking cold. You have no idea. So my parents decided to like shut the heat off in the lower part of the house in the basement
Starting point is 00:40:46 and I wasn't going to do the reunion up there with them and the fucking TV and everything on. So I go in the basement by the bar and I'm sitting down there doing it and I'm literally, I'm shaking. My teeth are chattering and people are talking and I'm like, I can't focus on anything other than the fact that I'm trying not
Starting point is 00:41:04 to shiver and shake on a fucking, like, because I was, I was literally shaking so bad. Wait, but, but it was edited. Couldn't you, like, yell down to your parents for a second, like, turn on the heat? Yeah, hey, all the production that's handling this, that we have to keep stopping because things aren't working. I'm going to stop
Starting point is 00:41:20 you 10 times because I need my parents to bring. I couldn't do that to them. So I sat there freezing my ass off. I was so miserable. I was, it was hard. You really? Where were your acting chops, Luke, at that moment? You couldn't, I mean, if I was was on set, Sag would have been like, yeah, no, this, get him off set, figure this out. Like,
Starting point is 00:41:38 I, I had a heated, I ran upstairs. I had a break to use the bathroom. I ran upstairs. I'm like, mom, dad, I need like a heated blanket. They gave me a heated blanket. They gave me hand warmers. I stuffed them down my shirt. And I was so cold, chilled to the bone. And it didn't help me. I was so fucking cold. How cold was it? What was the weather? It was probably like, in the basement was probably like 37 degrees. Like, I was freezing. So yeah, that's, that's why I looked miserable. That's why? Yeah, I was so cold.
Starting point is 00:42:06 I couldn't focus. And it felt like you were dying and you had to talk about like stupid shit like Kyle and Amanda and you were like, what is my life right now? Like I'm in 27 hours. What's that movie with James Franco when he has to like saw off his hand? I feel like that's a movie you'd see now. No, I haven't seen it, but I know what you're talking about. I do know what you're talking about.
Starting point is 00:42:28 Yeah. So you're dying and you're having like looking at Jules who's out of like, dynasty with like that dress and you're in Minnesota in a basement frozen yeah and yeah it was it was interesting let me tell you like let's put put it this way some people put a lot of effort in I was like I also was sitting on a stack of books I put on a bar stool and I was like wait is my camera good like okay the name's not on the hockey jersey in the background okay we're good now cool oh my god I can't no but you guys Zoom reunions how I mean when I heard Summerhouse is going to you know have a remote reunion it sucks i mean i know we're in corona times but it's just not what you
Starting point is 00:43:10 want to see you know what i mean you want to see a reunion you want to see everyone there and it sucks and and even i mean it's fucking bravo and the audio wasn't that good you know and because there's nothing to do because you guys are setting it up they can't come to your house and and make sure your audio is good um but yeah some people really put i mean pages and jules dresses were insane. Yeah, and that's fine. That's, you know, that's who they are. That's, that's like they're, they need to do that. Like, that's their thing, you know. Even though you had, you set to page a couple of times, like, your dig at her was like about your like, go try on clothes or something. No, she was just being so rude to me. And I was like, are you even relevant right now? Like, you're not even
Starting point is 00:43:49 ever around. You sit in your room and try on clothes all day. And, yeah, and, and you know what? I'm not like proud of myself for saying something so immature, but, you know, they were just being so fucking rude to me that um i just i had had enough but i do love page dearly and i think she's tons of fun and that girl like when she has some drinks and lets loose she's like one of my favorite people in the world she's tons of fun to be who page oh she's one of your favorite people in the world she's so fun when she like drinks and let's loose she's just she's a lot of fun to be around i enjoy her a lot oh my god that's so funny i couldn't get over how whenever you talked about your feelings about hannah which is a really nice thing because I feel like
Starting point is 00:44:28 people and girls from New York and I'm sure from L.A. and guys like don't talk like that. And you were like, I'm so smitten with you. And it was such a like cute word to use. And I feel like that probably is one of the things that won her over. So I'm one of your fans.
Starting point is 00:44:51 Like I wish you guys. And Hannah, like you do hang out all the fucking time. Yeah, we hang out all the time. Like I said, we're like, I think we would do anything for each other. We're that, I mean, we're really close. We're really tight. And it does seem like this season, and I won't, you know, make any blanket statements that I'm not sure about. But it seems like, even when I had Hannah on my podcast before the season started airing,
Starting point is 00:45:19 and she couldn't obviously talk on here about everything going on with the girls. But I could sense in her, the way she was talking about Amanda because Amanda and her were like best friends season three I could tell that there was some like you know that even though they made up
Starting point is 00:45:37 and everyone worked out and you're like now I love page and I love Amanda you can't always come back 100% from shit like that the way Amanda treated you and you're important to Hannah and the way she treated Hannah and she was making digs left and right at Hannah
Starting point is 00:45:53 like I'm shook at Hannah that she didn't blow up at her like there was a dig about you know talking about the Minnesota trip there there were like digs all the time so I can totally kind of sense that those friends that friendship I know that her and Paige are good didn't come back around you know I always think like this and I and I hope I hope it does because I you know it's too short to hold grudges and to be shitty towards I don't know I just think like you know even with them with you know with everything with Amanda and page towards me and stuff and it is upsetting and like I said I I tried my best to handle it the best I could, but if you hold grudges against people,
Starting point is 00:46:30 there's no, there's no self-growth for yourself involved in that. So, so hopefully, you know, Hannah and we'll be able to, I mean, I'm sure she'll be fine, but hopefully that doesn't, hopefully she'll be able to just let them know. Yeah, I mean, it's not about grudges, it's about like, it's okay to be really close with someone and then discover things about them or not like the way they act in situations and, you know, come apart a little bit. So, okay, so you and Hannah aren't dating now. Does that mean you're single and ready to mingle?
Starting point is 00:47:01 It means I'm single and during quarantine, sitting in my cabin. Right. That's so hard. So would you go on like dating sites and stuff or now? No, I'm not going to go on a dating site. I, you know, I think that... Were you ever? Yeah, right after my relationship, I popped on one. I was like, I needed a distraction.
Starting point is 00:47:20 Are you kidding me? Like everybody else in this world that is like a mess and like, yeah, I need. something to distract me or someone I should say sorry like so immature to do but it's what we do um I feel like you know I'm at a point now where I definitely you know am open to something happening but I don't look for it I just kind of let shit happen um I also need I need to make sure like I'm in a good place I feel like uh yeah with things and I've got a lot of irons in the fire with my business and with my home with wait the business are we talking about the jewelry yeah yeah so I've got you know there's just a lot going on and so my address is
Starting point is 00:47:54 4-4-5. I like your rings. They look good. Usually guys with rings I'm not too into, but I like it a lot. I think it's a vibe. Well, thank you. I appreciate that.
Starting point is 00:48:07 Thanks for saying nice things. That's good, especially on your podcast. It gets a word out there. You're like, that means promotion. Yeah, thank you. I appreciate that. Thanks a plug.
Starting point is 00:48:17 Yeah. But yeah, so I've been, you know, the thing is I'm really busy. So for me, it's not like I'm sitting at home bored being like, God, I wish I had a girlfriend, blah, blah, blah. It's like, I'm so busy that I, there's times I'm like, I'd love to be sharing my life with someone because I do some pretty cool shit. And, and, you know, that would be cool. But then I'm also, there's, there's times where I'm like, I'm just so busy. I don't even have time to think. But do you see a future of, like,
Starting point is 00:48:42 family kids, like that thing? Like, you're into that. Absolutely. And I feel like it's going to take me some time to be in a place to where I can really think about that again coming out of what I came out. And also your whole life, I mean, not only your relationship, but your life is sort of changing now. Yeah. I mean, you were on a show, things, more opportunities are going to come. Would you do the show again if you were asked to?
Starting point is 00:49:08 Yeah. No, I mean, I would. I definitely would. I wonder what's going to happen with like Corona times. I don't know. I know that, I know they, I think they want us to do the show. but they, you know, you have to make sure that you can do it, um, given the circumstances. Yeah, that's to figure out a way. Yeah. And, uh, and I feel like, um, you know, you have to find
Starting point is 00:49:28 ways to do it. I don't, I don't know how it'll work and, and I don't know if they want me back. But if they do want me back, um, I would do it. I mean, it's, it's a fun time with my friends. So you can't really. You guys, if summer house comes back this summer and Luke is on it, um, which I'm sure you're going to be asked back. I guarantee you, they're going to bring a girl that, you know, not a Jewel's that you would immediately be like, yeah, no, I'm going to sit by the fire. But like someone who would actually like tickle your schnitzel
Starting point is 00:49:57 and they're going to make a season about that, which is like, what are you going to do? There was one other thing I wanted to ask you about. There were times because I was like, like I said, I was a fan of yours this season and thought you were great. And then you would say, and I would always hate on the guys. Don't you feel like that house is the most like graphic house?
Starting point is 00:50:18 like a finger banged her like who are where did what is that like do your friends talk like I and then I would feel like you're not that guy and then you would talk to them and be like yeah like her taco or something and I was like Luke why are you going down to their level uh what's happening you know I I feel like um you know I'm I'm really not I don't like to I mean I don't know I I don't like to talk about that stuff, I guess, in that sense. But, you know, sometimes I feel like women and guys in general, when they're with their friends, they'll, like, you know, like, if you're with your girls and you're getting your nails done, you might chat about some shit in a graphic way or something.
Starting point is 00:51:03 And when you're with your buddy's having a beer, you know, in the hockey locker room, you guys talk to each other about shit. And I feel like it's, some of that stuff is like that, but it gets, it'll get caught. You know, you're on a TV show, so it gets caught on. It gets filmed. Right, right. I think everybody, every person is guilty of that. I mean, we're just normal people.
Starting point is 00:51:20 Everybody's screwing people and doing things. No, of course they are. But on this show, because you saw season three with Jordan, it was like, again, with the fingering and that this, and everyone was in his sex life and everyone was weirded out by him because he said he, you know, did have sex or didn't have sex. But I did want to know what happened with Jules that she brought up on the reunion yesterday. And Andy, I love Andy's faces where Andy's like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:46 we don't even know what this is happening this didn't happen to Joe but she called you misogynistic she basically correct me if I'm wrong was insinuating that you were angry with her
Starting point is 00:52:00 because she had promised to like fuck your friend and then your friend came all the way and then she didn't and you were like what the fuck so that kind of made you look bad yeah no absolutely and that's not the case at all
Starting point is 00:52:11 I can get into all this detail but I'm not I'm not tell me actually what just tell me like what the what that that story isn't what happened no not at all um so i'm just going to say i stand by what i said in the reunion i 100% stand by it um there are two things i would like to clarify one is i don't care who jules sleeps with i never have cared who jules sleeps with it's none of my business um i do care when jules is disrespectful to my friends when they've done nothing to her and i ask her why are you disrespectful to them and she freaks out on me and accuses me
Starting point is 00:52:48 of trying to get her to sleep with my friends when that's not the case. And that's what happened there. I was like, I was like, I don't know why you're saying this because it is not, it's so, like, where is this coming from? Like, you literally just yelled at my friend to get the fuck out of the house. When all he was doing was like talking to you about like the weather,
Starting point is 00:53:09 like you're so rude to him. And you're like a very rude, disrespectful person. I didn't get that. I said you were being that type of person to him. And so that's what happened there. And then the second thing I'd like to clarify, I guess, is when Jules hit me, it was, it was not that, they were not, they were not connected. It was weeks later. And we had Hannah myself, Jordan and Jules had left.
Starting point is 00:53:43 We were out in the city, out in, I don't know where we were at in the Hamptons. But we got in a car, and I was sitting in the front seat, and I asked the driver, plug my phone into charge, because it was dying. So it was Hannah behind me. Then it was Jordan, in the middle, and Jules behind the driver's side. So I plugged my phone, and the song comes on, when I plug my phone, and iTunes just came on. I'm like, I, okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:54:03 I don't know. Like, I didn't do anything. And out of nowhere, oh my God, I hate this fucking song. I fucking hate you, fuck you, fuck your music. I'm like, I was, I literally was like, I couldn't even like my jaw hit the floor. I was like, what is going on? So I was like, are you okay? Like, what is wrong?
Starting point is 00:54:21 Like, I just plugged my phone in. Like, I don't understand what's going on right now. Fuck you. Turn this shit off. I fucking hate you. Fuck you, Luke. And I was like, I turned out as jewels. I go, there's no cameras.
Starting point is 00:54:34 I don't know why you're, like, I was so confused what is actually going on? Like, Hannah's in the backseat. Like, what the fuck? You know? So, like, I just turned forward and we're driving down the road. I turned my music like completely down, so you can't even hear it because she was screaming at me. And within 10 seconds of driving down the road, all of a sudden out of nowhere, I get punched,
Starting point is 00:54:54 close to best punched in the temple on the side of my head by her. No, I did nothing to the girl. Nothing. I sat there and was thinking to myself, I don't know how this happened. I don't know why this happened. I don't know what is wrong with her. this is not okay we got back to the house and uh Hannah's like come with me we went in the backyard and Hannah's like wait so Hannah and Jordan saw this so they could like corroborate this story yeah 100
Starting point is 00:55:22 and and and Hannah said Hannah's like I can't believe that that just happened like I cannot believe that that just happened and I was like yeah either can I um I was like that was actually insane I don't get it I just want to say that I want to tell everyone and I don't want to speak for you because I know you probably don't want to say this. And I've heard that we're not getting the full scope of jewels on the show. Like I asked you about your edit. And if you liked the way you came out. And a lot of times they show jewels in this position of like, you know,
Starting point is 00:55:55 being poor jewels and they're not paying attention to her. And the girls like kind of are clicking and she's not in it. And Carl exploding on her foaming at the mouth trying to kick her out of the house. And we don't know where that comes from. And to the viewer, it's like, she seems so like fine. like she's nice to everyone and I kind of have heard through the grapevine that we didn't get the full scope of jewels that she was kind of a different person than it was shown and that that is the reason a lot of people treated her the way that they did and that is crazy to hear because your story
Starting point is 00:56:29 you know also seems like not the jewels that we got on the show yeah um I mean I I I can't speak to I mean, I can speak to that, and I will, but I can't speak to, you know, how people form opinions of her. Yeah. What I wasn't even going to bring any of that up. It was, it was water under the bridge for me. But the only reason I did, I wished I didn't be, anyway. But the only reason I did is because over the past couple weeks, I had.
Starting point is 00:57:09 seen people verbally, via social media, attacking Carl and Hannah, two people that, you know, nobody's perfect, but are actually pretty decent human beings that have big hearts. They're not like evil, evil people, right? We all fuck up. They make mistakes. I make mistakes, but they're not bad people. And I felt like, like, you know, people were just saying really horrible, nasty things to them. And, you know, Hannah actually had called me very upset.
Starting point is 00:57:39 and she had been called racist and all types of things that she's not. Oh, yeah. And she was like emotionally like a wreck. Like she called me crying. And when you care about your friends, the way that I care about the people in my life that I care about and love, you're not going to let like my emotions got the best of me in the sense that I didn't want, I felt bad that my friends were being thrown under the bus and that's not the truth. And nobody knew the truth.
Starting point is 00:58:08 I don't know how that got spun because I don't think on the show Joel's ever said it. I think just her supporters kind of were like, oh, if she's not being accepted by all these white people, then it must be a race thing. Yeah, yeah, and that's not the case. Like there's reasons why and it has nothing to do. Nobody in that house is like that. And so for me, I just felt like, you know, she was riding, like I said before, riding her coattails on the victim train. And I know that, you know, on social media, she had, you know, really been playing the victim, the victim and to people in playing it to, in the sense of even taking Hannah on a tweet that people actually could go and attack Hannah after that. After people were saying Hannah wasn't there for her. And I was like, this girl is out of control. Like, she's absolutely out of control. And I felt like people needed to know the truth. about the ugly side of things and with her.
Starting point is 00:59:10 And that, you know, the people, people that they were coming at didn't deserve it. And that's that. But, you know, I don't want to talk about it too much because it's just, a matter of fact. No, we get the just. As a matter of fact, this is probably the last time I will talk about it. I've said what I've said. And I've said this to you now. And if anybody asked me any time further, I'm just going to tell them to reference your podcast.
Starting point is 00:59:35 because as far as I'm concerned, I just want to be done. Yeah, it's annoying. I get it. It's like a question about someone that you're not even, you know, you don't really care about her. The relationship you had with her was like, me, anyway, I have a feeling you're going to get back, ass back, not sure Jules will.
Starting point is 00:59:54 And I really, really hope in Corona times you guys manage to film somehow. Maybe they'll, you know, make you all stay in the house, but never leave the house. and then it's going to be even crazy or something, I don't know. I mean, could you imagine like a quarantine house? I mean, I, I'm going to be like you guys, I'm going insane. Like, I need to leave. No parties, like, just you guys in a house.
Starting point is 01:00:16 Like, that's, I mean, that's the only thing I can think of that could happen. It would be, it's going to definitely probably be very creative. I mean, we're going to be like, we're going to, I mean, I can imagine, like, me and Carl and Kyle just like by a pool trying to see who can jump on top of one of the floaty things and balance the long. You just leave because you're going to be going to insane, you know. But if it was to happen, I think it would probably be very, it'd be fun. I mean, well, we'd make the most of it.
Starting point is 01:00:43 We're all, like I said, we're all good friends and I think it would be a fun summer. For sure. Luke, thank you so much. Go follow Luke at Luke Gulbranson, right? Gulbranson, that's close. Why is it hard for me? It's all right. It's hard for most people.
Starting point is 01:00:59 Luke Gulbronson. There you go. Okay. on Instagram, not TikTok. Are you a Twitter present? Well, I wasn't, but I am now because of the show. And I think it's just Go Bronson underscore Luke at Twitter. I don't even know my Twitter handle.
Starting point is 01:01:11 Yeah, so follow him, and we're going to follow you, babe, to see what you're up to next. Yeah, I appreciate that. I'm actually waiting for, I mean, I've got things with the company coming out, like some candles and some other things, but I'm waiting to find out what's going on. I filmed an HBO show called The Flight Attendant, and I'm waiting to find out when that's going to air
Starting point is 01:01:32 and what's going on because they were about to wrap filming and then the coronavirus hit, so I don't know what's going on there, but I need to find out. So, yeah. Oh, that would be awesome. Well, I hope, you know, that you do more acting stuff too. Yeah, no, it's good. I mean, I'm all over the map.
Starting point is 01:01:46 One day it's this, the next day it's that. But like I said, I'm extremely thankful for it and I count my blessings every day. Thank you, Luke. You're the best. So nice having you. Yeah, thank you so much. I appreciate you.
Starting point is 01:01:57 Yeah, and send me your address. Just send it to me in the text. and I'll get you a piece of jewelry, okay? Oh, good. Of course I will. All right. You take care of your style. Oh, wait, one thing I want to say.
Starting point is 01:02:07 One run real quick thing before we finish. Just a big thanks to all the essential workers for everything that they're doing for all of us right now. I think that's important. So just know that we're all in support of you and you guys kick ass. Keep rocking on. I'm sure no one's like clapping with you at the lake, but in New York we clap for them every night at 7 p.m. New York's the best. I love that.
Starting point is 01:02:26 Yeah, it is. It's really magical. I love that. That's great. Well, take care. Stay safe and healthy. You too, babe. And thanks again for having me on.
Starting point is 01:02:32 I really appreciate it. Thank you. Thank you guys for listening. Happy quarantine to everyone. Let's stick the shit out and make sure that we're doing our part and keeping ourselves, our loved one and everyone healthy. Hashtag blessed. Hashtag I love you. Please rate and review the podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:51 If you don't, I will know. And I will be really angry with you. Thanks to the podglomerate for editing and producing my show. Love you guys. See you next Tuesday.

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