Not Skinny But Not Fat - Summer (is in the) House: Hannah Berner joins NSBNF

Episode Date: July 30, 2019

This week on the NSBNF podcast we are joined by Summer House season 3 newcomer, the lovely Hannah Berner! Born and raised here in NYC as well, Amanda loved talking to Hannah all things Bravo, what it’s like drinking fireball straight out of the bottle, how she keeps up with Summer House partying, her dating life, growing up a tennis pro, mental health- and so much more. You’ll really enjoy this one. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This is Not Skinny but Not Fat and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. Hey guys, welcome to another week of the Not Skinny but Not Fat podcast. I'm your host Amanda from Not Skinny but Not Fat on Instagram. Thank you so much for tuning in today we have a super cool guest from the hit bravo show summer house from season three hannah burner i'm so happy to be here yay i'm so happy too you're like way too tall for that mic for a minute no i just have a really long torso i'm five seven early you guys she is tall she is skinny i don't know what's happening i'm like um why did you lose 10 pounds before

coming here so I can be jealous. I literally chugged a coffee an hour ago. It went right through me. I am like, I lost my water weight. I lost any weight that was inside me. You're seeing me at my prime right now. She is at a prime, ladies and gentlemen. Not that you, like I watched season three of Summer House and loved it.

Thank you. Did you watch season one and two? No. Okay, so you are a convert. I am, no, because I was a VPR for people listening that know, like, VPR, like, love that shit. I'm a BPR stand all day. Really?

Are you kidding me? Oh my God. I went through like the worst breakup and I got through it with Vanderbilt. Shut the fuck on. Like every night I didn't want to be alone with my thoughts. So I just was like, I'll watch Sheena cry about her divorce. This makes me feel better. And like see everyone be horrible to each other and feel better about your life.

But they felt like my best friends. Like I'm like, I just want to live in their friend world. And I never thought that like a year or two later I'd be like on bravo. Friends with them. Like legit. Life is crazy. The thing is with reality, and, like, I want to talk about Summerhouse in that way, too, because Summerhouse may even be more relatable than VPR.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I would argue that's why people, especially your age and, like, New Yorkers. Hannah. Am I older than you? Is that why you're saying your age? I'm saying our age, millennials. Say our age then.

She's like, how old are you? I'm 27. We're the same. I'm 31. You also came at me when I first, you were like, you look really skinny and like a caring, and a caring, you guys. No, like a caring mom way. You were like, are you okay?

And I'm like, honey, I've been stressed. But I did eat a lot for Fourth of July, and I'm proud of it. But you have a good metabolism if the coffee runs through you. I have a good metabolism. Apparently, Botox won't stay in me long either. But you have to, like, have that athletic body that we all know and love, and you can't get, like, too skinny on us. Thank you, baby. I'm going to Jamila Jamil your ass.

Are you kidding me? I would, like, if I don't eat, I lose my mind. Like, I'm not a functional. I don't forget to eat lunch. Oh, my, like, I need, like, I need, like, 4,000 calories a day to be happy. Shut up, you don't actually. I don't count calories, but let's just say I don't miss a meal.

Yeah, no, don't miss a meal. And that's another relatable thing about Summer House. It's a small relatable thing, aside from the fact that everyone, like, works and shit, is that everyone, like, eats and eats at night and comes back drunk and eats. There's more late night eating than the actual dinner, because we're always fighting during the dinner. But I, they said they were going to put a montage together of me eating. They never did.

about it, but I do think about it sometimes. You do it. You're a video editor. I stress eat so much. Like when everyone starts fighting, I just start, I'm like, Paige, can I have your calumari? Because we order nice stuff, but they're busy fighting. They're busy fighting.

So I eat it. And everyone's really skinny. Yeah, I definitely eat the most of the girls. Really? But I also, growing up, being an athlete, I just am always hungry. I don't know. I've just trained my body to be like, eat. Because being an athlete, you can actually eat 5,000 calories.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, during college. Like Michael Phelps. Oh, yeah. Yeah. But you were saying, like, did you lose weight? I actually just gained weight during Summer House because I'm not a professional drinker like they are. And I said that in the beginning.

I was like, I'm not going to be able to party with you guys. So did you not drink? Oh, I tried because I'm competitive. And then what happened? I just gained like 10 pounds of alcohol weight that I didn't have before. Oh, really? Like I'll go out on a Friday and then I'm out for the rest of the weekend. I'll go out once a week and I'm good.

Like your hangovers are bad. My hangovers are bad. And, like, I prefer staying in. But I like that, like, one night of socializing. I don't need two in a row. I saw you guys yesterday. Why do we have to do this again? But how do you keep up?

Because, like, VPR, I remember watching it. First of all, I was like, Amanda, you need to up your game. Like, really start drinking more because everyone's doing it. It's so bad. And then I'm like, no one can drink this much. And then you watch Summer House. And, again, the bottles and the pouring into the mat. I'm pretty sure I saw you with bottles.

is pouring into your mouth. Yeah, Lindsay, like, whenever she sees me, she somehow pulls out of her pocket. I don't know how it fits, but one of those on fireball things and throws it in my mouth and then I fart cinnamon for the rest of the day. It's not great. And then you're just, it's eating, it's drinking. Danielle Oliveira in the beginning. Yeah.

I was like, I was like, I'm like stress eating and drinking this whole time. She goes, oh, we're all going to turn into pork chops at the end of this. She's like, you just have to accept it. The thing is, it's probably hard because you want to be, like, where everyone's at, but you don't want to, like, gain 100 pounds and, like, feel like shit. So what do you do? Like, I'd be so lame. I'd be like, I'll have, like, have a glass of wine.

During the week, I was so tired that, like, and it's kind of stress that I wouldn't work out. I'd normally like to work out, like, one to three times a week. I'm being honest. Say one. It's more relatable. But I can't have one is more. The last time I did four, I can't remember. So I'm not going to lie in this podcast.

But also, I didn't, if I went on that show being like, I want to look perfect, I want to be aspirational, I would have been, like, lost my mind. Yeah. But I went on just being like, I'm going to be real. I'm going to be myself. I mean, being real is such a corny thing to say. But I just wasn't going to try to be something I wasn't. You definitely weren't. And I think that's why the show, like, girlfriend.

You were not aspirational. We saw you. No, when I, like, we're going to go back for a minute and just be like, what summer house if you haven't seen in, why you should watch it and everything. why you should feel bad about yourself if you haven't watched it because it's just straight disrespect to me. Right. Which is why do you know when I reached out to Hannah and wanted to have her on this podcast, like I knew she was doing cool shit on Instagram.

You were also working at bitches doing videos and you write like funny, which yours are like memes in the way minor memes because I don't really do memes, but I like just write like one-liners and that's kind of what you do. Yeah, I just, I tweet not on Twitter. So yours are really funny. Thank you. So that's part of the reason I wanted her on. And then I was like Summer House, Bravo, Doe, which made me watch your season.

And I was like, I'll watch a couple episodes and then I got sucked in. Wait, what made you watch the season? You, babe. Because I told you to on on Instagram. No, because you were coming on. I wanted to, like, see what you were doing. I wanted to, like, stalk you on her own. So as a Bravo, you call yourself, well, you're like a Bravo.

I'm like actually certified Bravo Hall out. Did you go to like the events and stuff? Yeah. I'm obsessed with you. So from your perspective, what did you think of Summer House? So I was telling Hannah before that I'm a VPR ambassador. NBRE. No, for, like, I know I'm late to the game, but what's nice about everyone who follows me on Instagram,

no one's like, you're late to the game. Like, people accept me for being like, I'm a VPR ambassador 17 years later. Like, whatever, I don't care, but I'm passionate about it, so it makes up for a lost time. But I think that's the great thing about Bravo is discovering a show and then being able to binge it. Like, I haven't watched Real Housewives of New York from the beginning. I haven't. And recently I started. Oh, my God.

Southern Charm, I, like, didn't watch. Everyone's telling me to start it now. There are episode 5 and 6. I mean, season 5 and 6 were great. And, yeah, VPR. I was just watching whenever it was on TV. And finally, I was like, let's go to BromboTV.com, hashtag not sponsored, but kind of sponsored. And go from the very beginning and see Stasi season one and embrace it.

I'm going to quarrel. her shit the way she would like fucking tell jack that she's going to murder him cut his ball into balls into pieces like live for the i think i was shocked because like i watch reality tv yeah but like that kind of reality tv i hadn't seen in a while the level of mean they are do each other is absurd but i like there's something obviously i love summer house as i experienced it because we don't have any scenes where people are like hannah go get coffee and talk to Page about this. We just show up at a house.

We're miced up. That's fun. And you don't know what's going on. Okay, we're going to go back for a second. Summer House, first of all, it started as a crossover with Vanderpump rules. That was like the initial way it was introduced. And I think it's like people in the network might regret it now because we don't want to be, we are like young like Vanderpump, but I feel like it was so hard to compare.

They're old already. They're older now. But there's, I mean, Kyle's 36, but there's no way to compare this new blossoming show to this established like seven, season seven. But you know what people reminded me with that? Is that that's how they introduced Vanderpump through Real Housewives of Beverly Hills. But I think that Real House was Beverly Hills. It was such a natural transition where people thought that Summer House was like being forced

down their throats. Like they felt like that kind of trick. I got tricked. I watched that crossover up. And I was like, who are these, like, annoying, white, rich people? Oh, my God, when you had no idea that you're going to be one of them? It's so fucking weird. I was actually, I'll be honest.

I remember I was, like, deep in my, like, Vanderpump, like, life. Are you okay? Oh, yeah, no, I'm good. She's a giraffe, you guys. Like, literally she's reaching the ceiling somehow. My, like, legs were sweating and got kind of stuck, and now I'm good. That happens. But I was also, like, what the fuck?

Like, I want to watch Vanderbom. Like, why you were, even though Kyle was funny with how he hit on Stasi and told her she's Steve Jobs. I also said he was blackout that whole episode. I doesn't remember any of it. He was the best thing in that episode, though, because he told Stasi she looks like Steve Jobs. I don't think the cast knew what they were doing. It was the first time they were ever filming.

And I think they all just got really drunk and that was like the only footage they could use was like Kyle on a hot tub. And then he like went to snack. And I was like, okay. Kyle's drunk eating is an art form. He like should do it like TED talk about it. It's fascinating, beautiful. And he's like still super fit and like doesn't have an.

Claims that during the week, he's, like, super clean and then just destroys his body on the weekend. But, like, I wouldn't recommend that to anyone. Yeah, no, that doesn't seem like 80, 20. I'm like, when does your metabolism start to slow down? Like, you're literally 36, Kyle. Kyle, that's my Amanda voice. Which, like, okay, Hannah's super hot, like we've said, on the show on season three and also IRL. But, like, Amanda Betula, what the fuck is your body and why is it fair to life?

Her body doesn't make sense. Like, her boobs are real, right? I'm sorry. you don't know, I'm going to give you some behind the scenes is I actually have to hold her up in scenes so she doesn't tip over because of her beautiful bosoms. I'm just kidding. But like if you look at her body, she says she has like big feet and that's how her body stabilizes. You should listen. So I have a mental health comedy podcast burning in hell. I had her on. And I was wanting to get in. I was like, what are your insecurities? What are your fears? What are your anxieties? And she was like, I hate my boobs. She's like, they're too big. I get sexualized when I don't. don't want it. I can't wear the shirts I want it. She's like, I want a boob reduction. And people like lost it. As in they were like, it was so refreshing to hear like her perspective. And so many girls were like, I feel the same way about my boobs. You know, you can't, it's a lose, lose with tits. Let's be honest. Too small too big. I can understand that. I can understand big boobs

being like a burden a little bit. And then Paige, did you see when I threw her chicken cutlets at her in Summer House season three? But I saw all that episodes. It was like a very, very, very, like quick blip but she would just like stuff her but these little chicken collets and I've never seen this before and she put him in my drawer and I just it was already like weekend 10 I'd already lost my mind and I just started throwing them at her and we couldn't stop laughing because she was kind of trying to hide them and then I was like I'm so sorry

on national television I just threw your chicken cutlets at you but truth is Amanda wants Paige's flat chest so she could wear pages cute outfits Paige wants Amanda's boobs so she could feel more sexual and I'm like Why don't we all just be happy with our bodies? But it's really just how you hold yourself and conduct yourself within your body because we're all just souls. That was profound. I don't know where that went. Are we all just souls?

I don't know. Do you ever look in the mirror and this is about to get weird? Do you ever look in the mirror? And you just feel like, what is this body I'm in? Yeah. You're like, what is this like flesh that I'm just in? Yeah. Like I don't even know my face.

hear something like you're like who it oh yeah I have that I've had that since I was like seven or eight it's like I should talk to someone about it I just get like that out of body experience where I'm like what is this life we're living in and I don't even smoke weed you don't smoke you look like you would smoke weed I love people who do I actually have like I have anxiety like I'm a control freak and when I lose control of my mind I like lose it so when I'm high I just feel really dumb and I can't form sentences and I freak out about not forming sentences and I can't smoke weed because it will legit give me a panic attack or like I'm so scared it will that it just will you get one yeah it's inevitable even if I won't I will people say

like keep smoking and it'll get better and I'm like this seems like a terrible idea you know what Hannah it's not true because I know a lot of potheads and they accept their bad highs like if they'll also get a bad high but they're like it's fine like I feel like shit like I'm too high but this is my drug of choice and like I can't like and I smoked and college, like before my anxiety, I think, was like higher. And I was like, I can't be in my legs. I don't like, I don't like that. I don't like that. I was like, who are you that? You used to, like, think that's funny. I was like, it's noodles. I'm new to like, today. I would be like, ambulance, like, yeah. Like, what's wrong? So I kind of missed that. I kind of miss that,

like, me, like, thinking it was. I'm just like, it doesn't solve any problems for me to, like, lose my mind. So I'm trying to, like, but maybe like, you have anxiety. I'm trying to, like, you have anxiety. I'm trying to work on the current mind I have. I've dated guys who like do crazy drugs, which is a weird thing because I'm like very, I'm pretty straight edge besides chugging, um, fireball in Summer House. And he's like, sometimes if you do a certain drug, like you just see life in a new perspective and it changes your vision. And I'm like, yeah, but I had a friend once who had a bad acid trip. And now she like gets weird flashbacks all the time. Oh my God. That's fucking scary. I just don't fuck with that. Like I'm scared enough of my

sober brain? Why would I? But you know, it's weird because you grew up in New York. Yeah. Oh yeah. Kids are doing acid at like 11. How did you not try or did you try drugs? It's because I was a tennis nerd. So like every weekend when kids were in Central Park like putting whatever up their assholes, I was, that's supposed to be a drug. I didn't mean like that a sexual term. Like doing whatever crystal meth. I was at a tennis tournament. And that's just how I was. That's good. So it like saved you from being like a New York City. I missed the, like, drug addict side, but then I got the, like, stressed out, you know, perfectionist anxiety athlete side. Yeah.

So it's a lose-loose. It's a lose-lose. Everything we've talked about has been a lose-lose today. Has it? I mean, we're getting, we got real. We got real. I mean, girl, we're the realest. We're so fucking real right now.

Like, you guys, it feels like I know Hannah for a gazillion years. So we're going to take a quick break and be right back. Okay, so we delved, we delved, can you say that? Yeah. Okay, we delved right into shit. Because I'm like half Israeli, so sometimes, like, I feel like my vocabulary in each language isn't like where it should be. So I get insecure sometimes. I wish I could say that I'm just have so many languages in my head.

I can't focus. Ablo of Spanol, too. Wait, that's so hot. I love Spanish. Oh, my gosh. Yeah. Wait, okay, you guys. So I, like, know Hannah, like, knew of her, wanted her on my podcast, watched Summerhouse

season three, which I'm going to go back. I should watch one and two. You were letting me take the conversation into weird places. No, I like that. I listened to her podcast today, you guys, like, and I was scared. I was like, she's going to, I mean, really scary, you guys. And she has this, like, sound effect on her podcast, if you guys want to check it out, burning in hell where it's like mohaha and I was like okay I talk about the Kardashians like

are we going to vibe like what's happening I mean I like dark humor yeah yeah no I like I'm sick in the head like cynical dry I don't I don't like having to I never feel like as women were trained to like laugh lightly and like and give space for men to make jokes and like speak about proper things and I don't get a fuck about that shitting like burpher it's my kind of girl for real. I'm breaking the stigma of all that stuff. And I think having a comedy podcast that I bring people on and talk about like their darkest demons, I think is like refreshing in a way. It's almost like light and refreshing. Well, I'm going to have a man done mine. We're doing a little crossover episode. But this is our first step. We're just dipping our toe in the

water. Yeah. We're dipping our toe in the water. You're going to be fine. You're from Israel. You're tough. I know. I told her I've been through wars. It's actually funny because today, like, you know, the time hop app. Yeah. So like a picture popped up from like the war. Were you in the military? No, I wasn't.

You should tell people that though. That I wasn't. Yeah, that you were. It would be cooler. Oh yeah, I would be. I wasn't and usually like I would I would want to, I would have wanted to.

Like the way college is here for us where we like don't come out of it more mature. You come out of it way more confused. You come out of it confused and like stupid. In Israel, you've lost brain cells and you're like, did I make out with the girl? Like, what did I do? In Israel, you're like at 18 in the army. So, like, it definitely shapes you in a way that people, like, go through some shit, sometimes crazier shit than, like, others.

Do they give you, like, ways to transition out, though? Like, do they give you maybe, like, therapists or some kind of, like, because I don't know. The trauma must be intense. The trauma for, I mean, I have friends that have seen their friends get killed in front of them and shit like that until today they have PTSD. So I don't know how much the army. Once you're done, do they just like kick you back? Because, I mean, I've, as you know, Summer House, Lindsay's ex was this guy, Everett.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And Everett is actually a really cool guy and he has this organization called Heel Our Heroes, because he was a, he's in the military, I believe. He's still in the military? No, he's a veteran now, but he's been raising money to help with, like, suicide prevention and PTSD. stuff. I'm sure. I mean, I've seen a lot of like documentaries and stuff in Israel about, you know, people that do have PTSD from the army. And obviously they're complaining that the army doesn't give enough. Yeah. Because they might pay for disability or you might get like money. I'm not really sure. But I'm sure there are a lot of. I think overall, we're all getting more aware that your physical

body is as important as your mental state of mind. Sometimes, you know what? I went to the doctor today. Oh, cute. She's a little band-aid. I do. I hate blood. Like, there's, I put on my Instagram if you guys follow me. I'm scared of everything. You'd be so bad at war. I'd be so bad. But maybe I would have had less, maybe I'd be like, tougher or something. I don't know. I wish I would have went through, like, I've gone through some shit, like, when we. We'll discuss it burning and hell. Or, like, IRL. But, um, she's like, no, no, no, no, no, no. I'm not that open but so at the doctors that I was talking to him about like anxiety and he sort of brushed me off it felt like because it was like what are your and I told my mom later um my mom like at

am I'm like trying to get deep with her she's like what do you want I told my mom later I was like no he like kind of brushed me off because like any mental health stuff that you have going on it's called like the invisible I don't know if they say this in English in Hebrew they do it's like the invisible disease meaning you look at me I'm blonde I'm cute I look pretty I'm a I look like normal and healthy and whatever and you can't know if I'm like freaking out right now if my heart beats on 200. If I'm like sweating, if I'm going through shit in my head. So that's why a doctor can look at me when I say have an anxiety for instance and be like you're fine. When you go to your yearly checkup, they go through a list and they're like, have you

like had headaches? Have you had diarrhea? Are you depressed? They ask it so casually to the point that you're just like no you don't know and also they don't even say like they don't describe like what it is they shouldn't say are you depressed they should be like oh like have you a trouble getting out of bed anytime so there was a question like that today there was like are you like do you have less like drive to do things or like leave your house and that's not like where I'm at thank God today today I left my house today I'm okay but yesterday no but it was just weird because I'm like I with anxiety and I remember seeing that in an Israeli documentary about the Army. I don't know how you got to see. Hey, now we were talking about Summer House. I am twisting

this all over the place. Twisting it. I'm like, so the Army and mental health. No, but, but so going back and we'll definitely talk about those things, that's another thing that made me relate to you and be like, whoever told us that we were meant to like meet were right, because like you talked about anxiety also on Summer House. And you got me really intrigued because, okay, you guys, I'm being such a bad podcaster. Season three of Summerhouse. I watch it. I actually put it up in my stories and my highlights.

Like I recap shows. Oh my God. I didn't know. Now you start tagging me. I do. I do. We have to start like being Insta friend. We're not even Insta friends.

I mean, I'm into friends with you, I think. Really? No, you're not. This is about to be so awkward. One of us is going to be pissed. Let's see. Maybe I didn't. Maybe I was trying to play hard to get.

Who knows? No. Stop. Oh, no. We both don't. We're following each other now. One, two. I did it before you.

No. Okay. So we're officially following. So now I'll see all your stories. And also I love being made fun of. So don't hold that. Of course me. But I didn't because A, like, okay, you guys, so I watched Summer House season three, even though like we said before, the crossover kind of pissed me off. And I think you're right in that that Bravo maybe should, Bravo, as a certified bravaholic, maybe you shouldn't have done that. No, but because I was like, what's happening? But as on its own, when I watch it, because I was like, oh, I want to see like how Hannah was on in, like, what was going on. I loved it. Like, I didn't think twice about the fact

that I have to finish it. Like, it's not like I was like, oh, one episode. So I want to hear about that. I want to hear about how you got to Summer House. Where that came from. Like, how did they find you? Like, what's up with that? I want to keep talking about this really war, but I'll get into this. I was at Betches doing comedy videos. And I mean, I actually, I was a tennis player. And then after college, I went into sales because my dad was a salesman. I was like cold calling. I was literally cold call, crying in the bathroom, cold call, crying in the bathroom. But I was doing well.

Like, I was making good money. Really? But it was one of those early things I'm glad I experienced because I realized that like, it doesn't matter how much money you're making. If you're miserable, the number in your bank account is like invisible. And the person's right now in my head was miserable. So I was like, I want to get into strategy. So I got into marketing.

What do you go to school for? Communications. Same. But it was basically tennis with like a little communications on the side. Like because we were true. Like how are you a little like, are you like today when I say like communications? I feel like kind of dumb. No, well everyone says it's like the go to major when you don't know what to major in.

But I literally was like my brother will make fun of me because he like is a financial analyst engineer. Who the fuck knows what he's younger than me. And he's like, oh, why don't you go do your communications? like, yeah, I have a fucking podcast and a TV show that's called Communications. So with that said, I also learned how to edit in college. So keep them in the back of your head. That's part of this story. I learned how to edit videos.

But I never, I wanted to be like a sports broadcaster, but I didn't want to go to a small town because I was from New York City. So I just squashed that dream because I wanted to be in New York City. At the time, I was like, I don't want to go to Kansas City. This is disgusting. Wait, why do you have to? Because to get on TV. You have to be like on WCN1 News.

You have to start at a really small town. I think I was scared of doing that. So you wanted to be like sports and you wanted to be on TV. So you had that. You wanted to be on TV. But it was a very subconscious thing. And I was always very goofy and silly. But I don't know if people would be like, oh, hon, it's funny.

It would be funny looking. But like I was always so silly and so goofy. But I never was like telling jokes. I was never like, what's the deal with tennis? So then I went into marketing and it was boring as shit. Like I would literally just like come up with captions for, I was like social media marketing or whatever. It was just boring and nothing good ever happened or bad. It just was like very blah.

So I quit my job one day. Just quit and was like I want to do video. Like I saw the old YouTube videos I did for Wisconsin where I learned how to edit. I did some like sports broadcasting at University of Wisconsin for like three, four months. And I just started manifesting it. I didn't even know what manifesting was at the time, but I just remember thinking, video. I want to do video.

So I started interning for free at 25 years old, and my friends were like, you okay, bro? At this company Scout.com that did, like, college sports, and I was, like, helping them. I did a random tennis photo shoot with Jordan Verroi from Summerhouse. I didn't know him at the time. This is August of, like, this is, like, three years ago. This like dushy guy walks in with shades on and we get put in this trailer for like six hours waiting to hit like a couple tennis balls for some photos.

And he was telling me all about his career and I was like, I'm trying to get into video. Six months later, he linked in messages me because I didn't have his number or his Instagram. And he goes, hey, I'm working for betches and they're looking for a video content creator and you were like very outgoing. and what do you think? Shut the fuck up, Hannah. This is a real story. A, like, Jordan from Summerhouse, everyone who I have a gazillion questions about, Hannah. I could get him on your podcast if you want.

Wait, but can you tell me for a second? So you meet him. You don't have any videos like on your, you don't have like an Instagram at that point. Or like you have a personal one. I was private with 600 followers. So you weren't, so he just knew you were interested in it. He didn't. That's crazy.

This message was. so weird but Jordan's a great connector like he loves he knows a lot of people and he was a recruiter growing up like went out of college so the job description he sent me wanted five years experience for a video producer

at Betches and I kind of scoffed at it and laughed but I'm not one to give up so I was like I was like what do they need for me and he's like just send them a sample video of like how a betch goes to the gym or like how a betch would

go about something. And I put together a video on my phone. Of you? Of me, like, trying to find, like, yoga pants, and it's all black, and I can't find it and go to the gym. And I'm like, I just... Who filmed you? I filmed it with my own phone. And cut it up. Yeah. Sent it to them. And they were like, hey, this is funny. Come in. And I came in with, like, a ton of ideas. And they were like, you have no experience. We don't know who you are. You're a literal stranger

from the street. We'll pay you a couple dollars a week. And... Was it really like that? Was it like just not good money? Oh, it was $300 a week. To do how many videos? To freelance to just like start. They had no video department and they were like, let's just see what you could do. Oh, they were smaller then?

Yeah. I was the seventh higher. Oh, my God. So we, I literally was just doing graphic videos at first where I would, I called it Betches Boot Camp. Like I honed my comedy writing skills and I would just like be like the top 10 ugly hot guys in movies or like. you won't believe what these models are eating to get skinny and like make fun of it. Because Betches is such a funny brand of like making fun of all the stupid shit going on in pop culture. And my voice isn't completely Betts' voice, but I almost like created my own Betch's voice.

And then one day they were like, can you film like a sketch? And I was like, I mean, I don't have a camera. I'm not SNL. But like I just nodded. I had this guy on my flag football team. It was a wedding videographer. And I was like, can you film a one minute video? I'll pay you 50 bucks.

And he was like, okay, we do a video called When Bay FaceTimes you. Yeah. And it's me with headphones on, and you see a guy FaceTimes me. And I go, hold on one sec. I need to find my headphones. I run out to the bathroom. And I, like, curl my hair, put on all its makeup, get a ring light, go up. And then I go like, hey, what's up?

We posted on batches. It was like a 40-second video. it hits a million views. Oh, my God. And they have like five million followers, but like it did well. It did well. Like the response was great. It was a video being like how you like.

It was a meme video. And they were like, can you do this three times a week? And I was like, yeah. And then I just got to like. Three videos a week? Like three funny videos a week. Yes. So I literally would just like write all these scripts.

I was out of my mind when I think about it now. I'd write all these scripts. I would cast it. I would produce it. I got a video guy. and he would shoot it and then I'd edit it and I was like in this like creative like I was meeting all these cool people

I mean I was getting my ass kicked from work but like I was doing what I dreamed of what you wanted to do yeah I was making videos and I was acting in them but I was very selective of like what I'd put myself in I didn't want to look like I was like thirsty yeah because I mean my shit was still private I was still so but I slowly started to grow a little

because I was in some of the batches videos The horoscope ones? So I started doing horoscopes. So my idea, I pitched, I was like, what if we did a weekly horoscope series where I made fun of horoscopes? The first one I remember, I was like, I would see exactly what it was. So it was real. Like, I'd be like, oh, the moon is in Uranus, but then I'd be like, which means, like, I'd look at something accurate, but then I twist it to be betchy. Like, let's say it really said, like, make sure you have boundaries.

I'd be like, so if you're going on a date and he wants to do anal, don't do it unless you, like, you like haven't had Mexican food in three weeks because it won't be safe and and then I just come up with it every week it was now you're making me miss it but anyway it was so fun yeah but then through meeting people fast forward my I interviewed Carl Radke and Stephen McGee from Summerhouse Stephen was a he was a member on first on first and second okay so I interviewed them I'd never watch Summer House I like me I don't even watch it for the inter like you had no idea it was like a five-minute interview. Like, I just, like, I watched, I looked at a summary. I watched, like, a trailer. And then I guess they were casting. And I'd seen, like, Lindsay out. I'd see

Danielle out, but I wasn't friends with them, really. What do you mean you'd see them out? I don't see people out, Hannah. I guess with Betches, we'd have, like, events and we'd invite, like, reality people. I see, I see. So I was in a world where I started to meet people. And that's why with my podcast, I've had such a great network, because I think I met so many people. Yeah. through just like being in that entertainment field. But people who are listening, like this isn't, this wasn't like a 10-year process. Like I literally just started manifesting what I wanted.

And within like a year and a half, I was like in it. And I mean, you can speak to that too as in like, this is what you wanted and you're doing it. If you make it a huge unattainable thing in your head, then you get, you scare yourself. But if you're just like, this is what I'm meant to do. It's just what you're meant to do. Don't be scared of. dreams like that. But I get a call basically like, hey, like your name's been thrown around.

Like, let's start. So it's definitely from you, though, being in the videos. I think that. Because otherwise, like. I think, I don't know if they, I think they heard, like Bravo heard of me from just like knowing the cast members. Yeah. And then I guess you can look and see my videos.

But then stuff kind of changed. I got casted. what were the auditions like I mean there were like seven or eight seven or eight of like interviews interviews of like because I need to make sure we had to take a like psychological thing and it's like have you ever thought of burning a house town

have you thought of burning a house down last year oh my god stop has a house ever burned down in your head like they ask you all these different ways of like because they're trying to make sure you're not lying about being a psycho and I'm like maybe now I do want to burn a house down anyway so it was a strenuous process But then you knew you wanted to the whole time or like while you were doing these eight. I've never tried out for The Bachelor.

I've never wanted to be on reality TV. My dream's always been to be on like a comedy sitcom or like a host of a TV show. And those are still my dreams. Yeah. But for anyone listening. For anyone who's listening. For anyone casting right now. You're like, oh, she's perfect for that role.

Oh, this girl's good. But I remember I grew up in Brooklyn going to Shelter Island. Wait, where in Brooklyn? Park Slope. Park Slope. Don't look at me like, do you know the area? I'm like, honey. Born and raped.

She's like, Park Slope. I don't know if you heard. Hannah and I. We have so much New York attitude on this podcast right now. She goes, where are you from in Brooklyn? I go Park Slope. She goes, don't give me fucking attitude, bitch. Do you know it?

It's a little place called Park Slope. They say Park Slope cut your throat. So watch out. I had a lot of actually, because we both went to the same high school, fucking surprisingly. I probably know the same teachers and stuff. You think? Yeah, like, babe, all my teachers were like looking back at high school.

I know, we're the same age. We've talked about this. I think I'm scarred because on Summer House. How old is Lindsay? She says three, too. Like I'm just saying, I don't know. I might have looked it up. Like it might be in my Google search history, like, how old is Lindsay?

Because there was a scene of you being like, I don't know, maybe because they're older. There was like some scene of you. Oh my God, that caused like serious beef that scene because people were like, oh, you're age shaming. But what happened is we didn't start off. She was age shaming. We didn't start off. She was saying that you guys are like. She was calling us immature and stuff the whole time.

I'm like, dude, you're three or four years older than me. After 25, we all hate life and we're the same. Yeah, we're the same. Yeah, yeah. But she was like making fun of my flirting. With who? With like, in general, she was like, you need to learn how to flirt like a girl or something. I wanted to talk.

I was pissed about that. that in my stories, everyone, because, like we said, like, Hannah's athletic, even though she's, like, really skinny right now. There's no, like, athleticness. No, I'm just kidding. She's lost her athletic ability because she's a twig. No, but she... By the way, I'm 5'7.

I'm a solid, like, 140. Good, babe. Because I'm very muscular. My sister in our last episode, she was, like, talking about weight, and she would, like, set her weight, and she said after, like, she felt confident. She was like, I'm just going to say. say it and she said her weight and then she was like cut out cut out and I didn't cut it out and I didn't tell my producer to cut out and I was listening to the podcast and I was like

oh my god it's so funny to hear you like say your weight to the world and she was like no I asked you to edit and I was like listen stand behind your shit no because she was like talking about how you have to like accept your body and I was like dude you were on Atkins two weeks ago eating like bacon all day I basically am like I'm a very muscular person like I was born with like big calves. Like, I'm just muscular. Yeah. And I like that I have a butt.

I like that I have thighs. Which, like, I have like an image of your butt in my mind. Because, like, that was one thing I think I was like kind of surprised. Because, like, the whole season you were like, you were super like, even. Why are you laughing? I have your gray underwear in my mind, babe. Oh my God. So everyone thinks it was granny panties.

I do wear granny panties. But these were boy shorts. They were boy shorts. No, they were cute. So I love that because she, okay. So she. You had that, first of all, Dave. British Dave.

The guy you were hooking up with on the show, is he in your life? He, we're friends. Just friends? He's like, every two seconds, he's about to move to London. And, like, we started off, like, both newly out of a relationship. And I just kind of, like, wanted affection from him. And he was kind of, like, not interested. No, but he was so sweet to you on the show.

Well, then I ditched him for an Australian guy. No. I dish him for an Australian guy. And then suddenly he's in love with me. And then the Australian guy was a psychopath. Do you only date international people? I think I was so scarred from my American ex that I was like, I don't want anything to remind me of him.

Well, I really want to hear about that. We're going to take a break and be right back. I want to hear about your ex because you mentioned him a lot on the season. Like you were always like, my ex, my ex, my ex, my ex. And like, what the fuck did he do to you? So I dated

this like older, successful comedian who was a huge, he didn't know it, but like during the Betches days, dating like a really successful comedian helped me so much, like gain confidence in myself. Like, we would just have like so much good banter and I'd watch him

like put together his you know, sets. He's like, decent known um and i if you guys do digging you can find it out um but i'll let you guys search for it um actually do we hate him now so we no we don't hate him okay he just like i was 26 he was like 34 and he was just like so into his own career and i felt like so lucky to be with him and i kind of changed myself to like to like make him fall in love with me and then he did and then i hated myself and he was kind of like dealing with a lot of his own shit and he was kind of like dealing with a lot of his own that he wasn't aware that like it wasn't a healthy thing and I ended it but I just left it

kind of empty what do you mean left it kind of empty like I felt like I lost myself in it I like didn't like myself anymore and I kind of hit rock bottom I was dealing with bad anxiety because everyone was like you guys are amazing together but then I felt like not happy and then I thought I was self-sabotaging it and then I was all in my head so it just wasn't meant to be and my body and my mind was like telling me and finally I learned I just had to listen to my intuition And I think from listening to myself and realizing I was right, just because other people are saying, you guys look great together. Oh, my God, you're so lucky to be with him.

I knew it was wrong. I listened to myself. And then I got so much stronger in the future because I was like, wait, you know what you need. Just start listening to yourself, start loving yourself. And that's where I think going back to Summer House when you were like, why did you do it? I just felt a good intuition. And my normal life was like going, every summer I'd go to my family's house in Long Island. And I just was like...

Do you still have that? My grandpa has a house Long Island and my parents. Wait, Shelter Island, I thought. Oh, is Shelter Island? Oh, is Shelter Island? It's in Long Island. But it's like all the way at that. It's, I wouldn't call it the Hamptons. It's like the Unhamptons, Hamptons.

Like, it's much chiller. No one's, like, partying. Is that where you have to put the car in the boat? Yes, the ferry. The ferry. It's like a five-minute ferry from Sag Harbor or Greenport. But I don't want to tell too much because it's like a secret place. But it's really fun, you guys.

That is really fun. I mean, the summer in New York is super hard. Like, if you have a place to escape to. It keeps me sane. Like, I'm such a city girl, but I need that, like, getting away from people. Like, even coming here today and it's hot out and being on the subway, there was this frenetic energy that I was like, I don't know if I'm going to make it. Yeah. No, dude, let me tell you, like, we were just talking about how we, like, kind of having our own schedules and stuff.

And, like, if people are like, I have to take the subway every day. And I'm like, how's that? for you. Listen, I put in the work. We went to Beacon. I lived in Riverdale at the time. You lived in Brooklyn. Like, I was on subways enough for the rest of my life.

We've been thinking subways since forever. And it was a 45 minutes of a way to Beacon. Mine was, like, 45 minutes to an hour. If I, you know, wanted to go out on Friday night, it would be like, should I go home? Should I not go home? I'd sit on stoops to, like, nighttime, drinking 40s. And, like, I put in enough to now, like, either splurge on an Uber. But if there's really traffic, then it's better.

That's so funny. My dad, who's born in Brooklyn, who he works from home. He's in sales. He'll go on the subway if he has to, but he will avoid it. He's done with it. He can't. He sees people driving in from his house and he's just like, look at those motherfuckers. I'm so happy.

I'm not there. The subway, but then I think the subway is amazing. You do. Like the idea of the subway. The idea of the subway is amazing. Amazing. The thought for me also is an anxious person. of Times Square, like, to get off and, like, all those people and, like, oh, my God. So I lived

in Midtown Manhattan. I lived in Harold Square. So that's where Macy's is. So it's the hell of the world. I had an apartment that, like, had a gym, and it was, like, really cheap, and I had two roommates. I did that for, like, three or four years. Oh, wow. And then I finally, like, got enough money to move to Queens. So I'm in a studio in Queens with my cat. I am a piece. Where in I'm in Hunter's Point, like Court Square area. It's Long Island City. Oh, it's Long Island City. Which is so beautiful. So that's really close to here now. Yeah, it took me 25 minutes. And like, what would it like a cab be? A cab would be like 15 minutes. A cab? Because it's, it should be, isn't it over the 15th Street Bridge? Yeah, I'm so close.

That is really close. I'm one stop away from the city. But I'm like, at this age, I don't, I like partying in the Hamptons. I do not care to like, I'll go to. a bar to go out in the city. I do not go to clubs anymore. Oh my god. Are you kidding? I did this interview and everyone's like, you are this like upcoming New York City, I girl. Like, where are the places to go? They're like, where are the best brunch spots? And I'm like, look, if I go out, I want to go to a diner. I want to have that like silver metal milkshake and I want like pancakes. I don't want any drunk-ass people yelling at me. So yeah, I'm an old lady. I'm an old lady too. I like going to dinners and like having a glass of wine but going out out in the city is like also now I'm getting spoiled because like we're shooting a TV show so we like go places we have a table

and people go out and I'm like whoa there's a line I'm becoming a diva now but I feel like I'm a monster can you get through the like so how is that for you do you feel like famous now it's funny do people recognize you do people come up to you well people because it's reality TV people really think like they know you yeah because like you wouldn't do it to an actor I like when what warms my heart the most is like if I'm at a bar and someone comes up to me and they're just like your podcast is like my favorite that's you like that's like my people yeah like you're my homies like we're family you know it warms your heart and you're like I do this for a reason people yell summer house I mean I'm like yep that's a show

that's a show I'm on but you got a good rap on summer house you know what I mean like you well you didn't hook up with anyone in the house so you didn't have any like drama going on within the house. And I feel like you must have not, you didn't get any hate probably, right? Did you get any messages of mean people at all? One person said I looked like the cashed me outside girl, which I thought was hilarious. That cracked, like, I was like, that's just really funny. I was like, that's really funny.

And then someone said I had Botox, which is hysterical. Look at my eyebrows. Like, all I love to do is move my eyebrows. So then I, like, I had no makeup on. I was watching summer. with Lindsay. So I just posted a photo and I was like with my eyebrow. We, our favorite thing is to watch the episodes and we're all just on Twitter scrolling.

Like we are all live tweeting. Oh, really? If we have the next season. Hannah, I saw that you guys are filming. I cannot confirm or deny. But we just love watching and tweeting. We're a cast that makes fun of ourselves. But when you say like relatable, I think different from Vanderpump Rules, like we do.

have like we all have different real jobs in the city so we can't be like that insane right so there's this like pressure you're not like being a bartender and like all this people want to be actors and models so they're just putting themselves out there where we're like really living our lives and you can tell the stress of like because you feel like it's you like it could be you yeah I'm gonna go on summer like I'm gonna get divorced and go in summer house like I feel like you you should probably should I know and if he loves you he'll let you he'll let me um but But, no, actually, it's funny because I did, like, I answered questions on one of my podcasts. And someone asked me, like, if you had to go on any reality TV show, which would you go on?

Which is quite a question for me. I was like, let me take that very seriously. You were like, let me go through my roller decks. Let me just think about this. A real heart. And I was like, you know what? Putting everything together and, like, all the notes, prop summer house. Because like you said, Hamptons.

House in the Hamptons, pool. you get to still live your life during the week like I feel like it's such a good reality show to be on like you said like your drama is drama but it's not like drama also like I'm so competitive like I couldn't go on The Bachelor like it seems just like a it's just going to go badly like regardless it's going to go badly

I feel like you want to be on The Bachelor I don't know it because I love watching it that was the OG reality show and I feel like so many of my single friends like they want to go on it And I'm like, from New York. You know they never have girls from New York, I feel like. I feel like we're, like, Oklahoma.

That's a good question. No one's like, no one's a hardcore, maybe yes, go on it. I'm friends with Izzy Goodkind who was like. She was dating Vinnie. She was dating Vinnie. She's a Connecticut girl, though. I don't know the details. I don't know.

I just feel like their drama is like very hardcore reality insanity where I don't even know like what's real and what's not. We're Summer House. It's like we go to the. house and it's very like your friends could be having the same drama. But do they expect you to like, like, you can't be kumbayiying all day over there? No, but it's so funny. Like, look at any friend group.

You're going to gossip. You're going to have people you don't like. You're going to have people you do like. I was even at my friend Sag Harbor House on the fourth, just like with their like real sharehouse. And you felt like it could be a show. And I'm watching. And immediately I sit down and I'm just like, who's who camp with who.

Who is annoying who? and they're like, okay, these two are definitely a grab this girl. And I was like, this could be filmed. Yeah. And it's just, if you think of any friend group, you know, and you're just with your friends and you're like, this could be a good show.

Yeah. I always think that about my family because everyone's crazy and there's drama every day. Yeah. And we'll sit at a dinner. I remember last season, I'm like, wow, like this can be a boring dinner. Like, no one's fighting.

She said last season, everyone just said, we'll sit at dinner. And it's like, and I'm like, nothing's going to happen. And then within 10 minutes. That's the thing. Because you're like a videographer, you're having those thoughts as like a media person.

You're like, there needs to be content. No one's fighting. What I had to do is like, Bravo fans. What do you think about? Bravo fans, what they said was in the beginning, Bravo fans are very intelligent. And they can see through the bullshit. And they were just like, do not force any storylines.

Do not be fake. Do not try to do anything because they will see through your bullshit and they will not like you. So I literally went on and I was like, if I, if I'm not having drama, I'm not going to force drama because that's not me. And then the day, I'd rather be me and not be, like, getting all the screen time. Yeah. Because sometimes, what, would you rather get screen time but be, like, inauthentic and weird? Yeah.

I mean, it doesn't always go, like, hand in hand, like, the more screen time you have, the more popularity you gain. Exactly. Exhibit A, like, James Kennedy, which, like, I feel so, like, torn about. But, I mean, look at Jordan, apparently, he had, like, they did some data and they said, like, 70% of tweets were, like about him. I feel bad. So I'm not going to like put you in too much of a corner about Jordan because I know you're friends with him.

But obviously his, she, as she takes a sip of wine and like breathes, um, first of all, and spits it. I spilled it. Wait. I'm drunk. Does your necklace say selfish and then butter? Yeah. My necklace says selfish and the other one says butter.

And now they're following me, you'll understand I have a cat named Butter who is my love of my life. And what is selfish? Selfish? I just started this new thing where it's like, I think women have to be more selfish. They have to, like, stop trying to appease everyone around them and caretake everyone around them and, like, do what you want. So I mean it in like a positive way. I like that. Thank you. I've always been called selfish, so I feel like I fit into that. I think being selfish is empowering. And as a women, we're taught not to be selfish in any way, but we have to be selfish for what's good for ourselves. Because I'm bad with boundaries. Like, I'll say yes to everything to make everyone happy. Yeah. And, like, recently was like I have to be selfish for what I need and what I want. So it's like a self reminder too. Exactly. Do you have like tattoos? I've zero tattoos. Maybe you need to get that tattooed. Maybe I should get it on my forehead. If you have another season. They're like, Hannah's storyline is crazy. She smokes weed now and has panic attacks and has a tattoo on her

forehead. Wait, what are you saying? Wait, what are you saying about Jordan? No, so. Get it over with. Okay. You're like, rip off the band-aid. No, so you know him from before. He basically hooked you up at bitches, kind of, and you worked with him. I have a long history with him. You have a long history. But I've never seen him in a, like, friend group. It's always been very work-related. Was he cast the same time as you? Yeah.

So, like, they basically, like, brought me on, and they, Paige and Jordan also worked for Betches. So it was, like, a good crew to bring on together. Oh, Paige also worked for Betches. That's why I think season three was so great, because it wasn't just, like, forcing random people onto the show. Like, we were friends, we knew them. And you also kind of knew that.

It was such a great, like, energy of everyone together. Yeah, no, it was cool. There was a little bit of, like, at the beginning, kind of like the separation between like the oldies and the newbies. The oldies had to deal with some of their own shit. Yeah. Like we came in and there was so much tension.

And then we... But that kind of went away in a minute because when I started, I was like, wow, like they all unfollowed Amanda and like there was going to be drama. And then like it was literally like they made up in five seconds. I think it's because it's like old news.

Like it was so the previous season, that's all it was. And we just, we didn't care about it. So like no one talked about it and then kind of died. And I think, we went in and I could have like jumped into that drama but I didn't know enough to have an educated opinion like even wait but you watch the seasons I watched it but like I don't I don't know them you know so I didn't feel like I could also it wouldn't make sense for me to be like well I saw what you did last season like you can't do that but Jordan kind of so okay so on top of with Lindsay I was like where like your balls right now are huge because like Lindsay's kind of scary what I mean kind of scary she's the scariest I'm

like we've our relationships evolved but like when I first walked in I was like I understood you galore because like you were being real like I think you even said like because you were like you said something about having the guts to like confront her that it was like scary I peed myself the whole time and I was very gentle also she is scared she is a very powerful lady this the thing she's an alpha but I'm an alpha too yeah and that's why we like had respect for each other but also like But you're different alphas because you can be an alpha and you can be like approachable. And you can be an alpha and be like, like you said, scary. That's the thing.

I wish I was scary, but I don't think I'm scary. I'm an alpha in a way. Like I like to be able to like make sure everyone's okay. Like I love like healing and like understanding people. See like in a good way. In a good way. But I like to control it. I want to make sure everyone's doing good where she's like, I'm a boss ass bitch.

But she was making fun of me saying I wasn't feminine enough or whatever. You guys should watch it if you haven't. Yeah, no. She said she wants to girlify you and she told your dad. Oh, my dad was so mad. Wait, what did she say to your, because she said, would trying to make Hannah more of a girl? Mind you, my dad is my tennis coach.

My dad still wishes I was the 10-year-old tomboy running around. He gets mad when I put on nail polish. Did you want to kill her? He based, afterward, they didn't show this, but he basically was like, Hannah, like, do not change herself for anyone. And I was like, oh, believe me, I'm good. You were like, I wasn't about to. I was like, I'm good.

Don't worry about me. But she, when I confronted her, it was weird. I didn't have an emotion of anger. She was like, for you. I didn't have an emotion of anger towards her. Almost once I got there, I was going to go in and tell her, go, fuck herself. And then I was like... Especially because of your, like, feminist thing.

Yeah. It goes against everything I believe in, which is, like, being feminine is, like, is a societal thing meant to, like, put you in a box. Femininity should be so much more flexible and whatever makes you confident and feel beautiful. No, I love that about you. you like you don't wear heels i don't wear heels either and i don't think anyone has ever called me not feminine but i don't think i i don't put on tons of makeup i don't wear heels like i dress

pretty like relaxed and homie i don't know what to call it comfortable comfortable is number fucking one yeah so i wouldn't call it like not girly or not feminine and if you think about it like lindsay had just had this like a she had a boob job and like she wanted to show her boobs the whole fucking episode. And she did. I mean the whole season. And she was good at it. Even my husband who has to sit through my reality TV show watching is not always

into it. It's like that girl's showing her boobs a lot. Like she must like her boobs. She was getting it. We say the other two new cast members were Lindsay's boobs. But she like, you know, she dyed her hair, platinum blonde. She felt like a new person. She has worked down on her face, whatever.

She's clearly wanted to change who she was. And I'm someone who's trying to just accept the person I currently. I'm trying to change. That's good, babe. Don't give in to, like, any of that pressure. I know reality TV recently, like, someone, they were like, you should get your teeth white in. and I'm like, okay.

And then next thing you know, they're like, oh, we could fix this or that. And next thing you know, I'm like, this is how it happened. Wait, did you fix anything? I know, I got scared. I just, like, I'll get my teeth wide in. Yeah. When would I have ever gotten my teeth wide end, except if I wasn't our reality TV? Wait, who said that, though?

Producers or like friends? No, no. Someone just in my, actually, Lindsay, was like, hey, I have a guy who does it. and, like, post some stories. I feel like L.A. is a scarier place because they're like... It's more like they treat it so like it's buying gum at a drugstore. They're like, oh, throw that in. Like, so I can see how you can get twisted.

But you're a New Yorker. Is anyone else on the show from New York? That's a thing. That's a thing. That's a thing. I think the show needed that too, like an authentic, like city person. Yeah. It's in our...

It's just a different mentality. It is a different mentality. But I ultimately kind of feel. Lindsay's had a hard life Her like mom left her And this is not an excuse Because I've had a hard life too You've had a hard life

You're like you've been in a war You've almost been in a war But you've fought in a war You did have to get blood taken today Or whatever you did And that was like a war Everyone has their own burdens And I've almost

I started to empathize for her Just like she's sometimes not happy She felt like she had to change herself And I just wanted to tell her Like just because you want to change yourself doesn't mean I have to change myself. Were you scared to say that? Are you kidding me?

I was so scared. But you didn't say that. I didn't say it. I didn't say you're like this perfect thing. Like that was prolific. That was so good. I basically was like, hey, like I. She apologized quickly though.

I basically said I'm comfortable with who I am. And she was like, I did soccer. And I was in the ROTC. And I'm like, cool. I think she sees herself in me. And there's some like, there's, it's complicated. So the point of the story is, is it takes a lot for me to get angry. She did not make me angry and more felt like empathy towards her. Jordan made me angry.

Seeing the Jordan thing put aside the fact that it's kind of like questionable, like his sexual orientation a little bit just because of the way he speaks and kind of the way he lies about women. And what went down with Danielle, though, pissed me off on a whole different level because he literally like, what was that? He like made out with her in front of people, but then they got home and he didn't want to make out with her. And like, then he talked behind her back. And And then he, it just seemed like he's creating something in his mind that works for his story, but he's like hurting this poor girl, like on the way. I know she has like weird.

She has kind of weird. I was, you know that when I wrote, I'm sorry, when I wrote kind of questions to talk to you about I wrote and I went over today and I'll be honest, you guys, because you know me, I'm honest. I wrote like Danielle thirsty, like question mark. And when I was going over that today, because like I said, like we were supposed to record this like a bit ago, I was like, I'm not going to ask that because I kind of. I don't feel that anymore.

I want to say something on the record. Danielle is actually the least thirsty person on the cast. Word. I think she had some pressure. Like, she wasn't originally casted back. And I think then they brought her on. And I think she had some pressure to just, like, bring it. And Danielle is the one person on the show.

She gives all the money she makes from the show to her single mom. Aw, okay. She literally is the smartest one, has the most successful career. And, like, was always, like, on the LAR because her job wouldn't let her leave early. Like, she's actually. the chillest, coolest because she's so cool, she almost had to force it a little.

So then it came off thirsty when really like, she just was like trying to be part of it. Exactly. So many people love hating Danielle and I'm like, Daniel's literally the coolest chillest. Like she's the one that like if she doesn't get asked back, she wouldn't give a shit. Really?

A hundred percent. And so you're not going to answer me if I ask you if she got asked back. Well, I cannot confirm tonight if we're filming. Right. So that's a no. But I wonder, now I feel bad. But see, then I had, I think it was like kind of closure because I might have thought that at the beginning just because she was really wanting a lot of different guys. And it seemed like. Also like she was single. And she had sex like legit. Wait, I have to understand. Is it Big Brother cameras? Yep. Are there also crews? There is. But like there's cameras everywhere all the time. about it because in Israel I used to watch the big brother here I don't but Israel it's like a really big thing the big brother some of the best scenes on Summerhouse

are when like it's just late at night and shit goes down so I like the fact because I don't know if you've seen it's like I'm telling you it's one of the realest Bravo shows out there that's what I'm saying like I like it because VPR speaking of is like I don't remember but when they started filming this season eight someone sent me like a scene at Tom Tom

where they're filming and I was so fucking thrown off because it's legit, like, in a circle, like Lala, let's say Katie and Stasi and, like, you know, film crews and booms and shit like that. And you see their faces and you're like, they're obviously like fighting right now, but how can that be so real when you have 5,000 producers in front of you, lights cameras? So the big brother feel, like, I know for sure that if I was in a house with cameras, I'd forget there were cameras. Well, yes. And also what I'd say to defend Vanderpump is once you're like season eight, you forget. You forget. Yeah, that's what Katie said. And also there's this, there's this weird mentality in where like, even though it's TV and even though they're producers and cameras, it's still real as in if I say some shit to you, it's on fucking TV. And you don't know if a producer told me or like I'm like you don't know if I'm just doing for story or this is real. Like it's all a mind fuck. Yeah. reality TV is a incredible like mental warfare it's interesting the way you probably feel feel about it because like you're coming from gaming engines which we know like I'm a big deal I'm no communications really like well like you learned like intro to mess media I'm going to do

a TED talk on intro to mass media but I'm saying like you're coming from I wasn't smart enough for journalism but communications I was fucking killing so you came from like let's say the behind the scenes sort of, right? So I got yelled at because they'll be like, you do your job and we'll do us. It's just my natural brain where I'll... You're like, film from here. It's my better angle.

I think in the very beginning, I was just like trying a little too hard and they were like, hey, you worry about you and let us make the TV show. And I'm like, yeah. I'll be so honest with you, babe, it didn't look at all like you were trying to hard. I think after like the first two weeks, it was just the first two weekends. Like I knew, this is that you know where the cameras are. Yeah.

trying to like I would like stare right into it every time then you have like an office moment I'm ready for my close up yeah

but so I just have to that's why I was telling you like I'm passionate about creating my podcast I love editing comedy videos but Summerhouse is like go out I live my life it comes out seven months later

and I watch it on TV it's not my art it's not like my it's just me living my life and and like a vehicle to promote all the things you're doing yeah and I think as like

as women like it's important if we're going to be entrepreneurs is like, get those multiple sources of income. Yeah. Like, get that. Does Bravo pay well? I mean, the more you're, the longer you're on the show, the better you get paid.

Yeah. And do you know how to make like smart decisions about that and like haggle? So I'm lucky. I mean, I'm not lucky. I was, I decided to have a manager. And I was like, I'm terrible at negotiating. I'm the kind of person. I'm like, whatever you want, it's okay.

Like, oh my goodness. I'm the worst negotiator. it's like because they'll go in and I'm like I want this then you're like looking at them and I'm like oh they have a family like whatever you can have the extra $3,000 and you're like what the fuck so I have I always say like you do your work and if you're in the entertainment field

get other people to be the bad cops I have a manager that's like we'll fight all my battles for me oh good so you got that after you were cast no I got it after once it started airing and I started to get some heat but I also I started to get some heat from my it's funny from my Twitter like before Summerhouse aired

I just started tweeting and it started to get picked up by a lot of accounts maybe you picked it up one of these days I don't know maybe you retweeted me I think I did for sure we've definitely crossed paths

we definitely have because I've definitely heard of your account you write like funny tweets and you write like liners and it's interesting because people connect with you because instead of just seeing my photo like people were liking what I was saying and then people would share it

and then people would follow me to see because everyone is like oh, why are you posting tweets on your Instagram? I'm like, do you know every meme page you like? Yeah. Well, it starts somewhere, and I'll have a time it starts from a tweet that's posted on Instagram. People ask you that?

Oh, people are like, why are you posting tweets on your Instagram? That's weird. People aren't following you because they're like obsessed with your brunch outfit. Right. They might like it. Yeah. But that's not the reason they're following you. And with me, I always think, like, why am I putting something into the universe?

Like, when I was private, I would post something because I liked a photo of me my friend or like I wanted to just show like a photo of me and my family but now the other people are following me I'm like if I want to post something what am I putting into the universe am I trying to make people jealous by posting a photo with a hot guy I'm trying to make girls jealous by showing that like I look fit right now oh some a lot people post for guys they're like on guys I think I'm hot I personally wait do people slide do guys slide into your DMs I like can't it's never a hot guy they're never really Anna no I mean the kind of I wonder if guys watch summer house I think a lot of guys, girlfriends do.

So, like, taken guys do. Do you get, like, skeevy taken guys? I get guys who, like, like, like, like, my personality. Like, they're like, oh, like, yeah, I love your tweets. You're so funny. Oh. And I'm like, okay. I don't know.

I guess I don't, I like shy guys. That's, like, my new thing. So I wouldn't like the kind of guy that would, like, aggressively slide into my DM. But you said on the show that you're, like, aggressive. It's not, I said aggressive. I think I'm just New York. Like, I'm not afraid to talk to anyone. Yeah.

I'm not going to go to a guy and be like, yeah, I like you're at. Let me slap it. It's more just like, I'm not going to sit there in the corner. I'm still getting the vision of you in the grand or where. I can't. I can't get it. It was so funny. I think it was just like random.

Like it was like scene. Hannah like toppling Dave in her bed. That scene, we, I remember in my head being like, I don't want to be that girl having a sex scene on Bravo. Yeah. But then we got really drunk that night at that club monocle party. And he like took off my dress. And then he, like, stepped on my foot. Do you remember?

And I was like, ow. And he's like, oh, my God, and he's huge. Like, he's six, six. He stepped my foot. I thought I was going to die. And then... Is that the night you broke your, like, finger? Oh, that was a whole different night.

My pinky's still not the same. Is it this one? Yeah, it's not the same. It'll never be the same. I thought it would get more airtime, but it's okay. Just fucking... I broke my pinky. I'm still waiting to see if I can get reimbursed.

It was like, like, Hannah's in the hospital. Dood, do, do... And then, like, it was over in a second. because it was just my pinky, whatever. Apparently I was in the cab going, I'm never going to play tennis again. And British Dave was like, you don't even play tennis anymore. Like, what are you talking about? You're not a professional. But yeah, I don't like wearing thongs. I think because I was tennis playing my whole life. It wasn't comfortable. It was not comfortable. Apparently it could get like bacterial infections. Like we're having a thong rub up and down while you're sweating. I don't know. I don't wear thongs. I don't think having floss at my ass is comfortable. Maybe I could get used to it, but I just haven't gotten there.

And so I wore these boy shorts under this dress And then I'm gonna happy I didn't have a thong in everyone's face Wait like but okay You were shirtless no? Oh yeah I didn't wear a bra with the dress I hate bras so was there a camera like the other direction That saw your boobs?

No that was a hidden that's just hidden cameras No but so we saw your back Yeah but was is there a camera that saw your friend I don't believe so There's just like one camera in that room I think But like there's tits everywhere in Summerhouse Like you just have to accept like So you don't care?

I try not to. You try not to. Because your family watches and stuff. My dad actually, my mom was like, don't watch this scene. And he was like, whatever. And he just like laughed because he just laughed at it. Oh, my God. It was stupid.

My family's weird, though. But thank God I didn't have a thong. My dad would have been like, my dad would have really upset. He just thought it was funny because I was like, I fell and like he didn't care. At least it was like you. Exactly. I wasn't like, oh, I want you to have sex with me. Put your dick in my mouth.

Yeah. Oh, this podcast just got. Gabriel. No, I was just being silly and we kissed a little. He might have grabbed a tit. First base. Come on, people. What happened with British Dave? Yeah. So then after the show, like, we dated until, we dated like three or four months after the show. And I just, like, I'm 27. Like, I didn't feel like he was my person. Do you feel like if you met your person that you would be ready to, like, be engaged at the end of this? I'm like, in Betcher Red World. I feel like I'm not in a rush at all. Like, I got engaged at 20.

six. How long did you date for? Five years. Okay. Yeah. No, that's all. And still, like, in Israel, it's common. Like, people get married. Is he Israeli? Yeah. Okay, cool. But I was still like, oh, my God, you're proposing. What's wrong with you? Like, people made fun of me because they were like, I'm here dating for five years. Like, it makes sense. Like, it makes sense. And I'm like, I'm just, like, I'm 31 now. And, like, the idea of, like, having a baby still seems like, oh my God, I'm like, a baby. Yeah. So I'm, like, kind of behind. kind with things and you have to like push me to them. But technically 27 isn't like young to get engaged. I mean, my parents met at 23 or something. They were engaged in like, I think like six or seven months. They have that like when you know you know mentality. And they've been together. Say that on a first date.

Be like, that's where I come from when you know you know. So I do have a thing in the back of my mind like, oh no. And like I haven't known yet. Yeah. So I'm, I just am in no rush. But if it comes, I'm ready to. accept it. But you're not like living your best life of like single life right now because of the show. I'm kind of seeing someone right now. Someone intersante? Yeah, I'm seeing someone who's like

so not my normal type. Like he's not 6-2. He's only 5-11, which is off-brand for me. Wait, you're 5-7? A 5-7. Yeah. Okay. Like heels were like almost the same. Whatever, I'm over it. I'm moving on. He, but I was like doing that to objectify men because I didn't want emotion. So I'd be like, I'm like, fucking dudes who are six six and honestly their dicks are too big like it wasn't even that fun is it really like that oh my god i mean it depends on the guy but like you let's just medium-sized dicks ladies like but is it really like the taller the bigger not always but

sometimes yes yeah like look at their entire body like dave wore like a 14 size shoe so dave Dave, everyone, slide into him because he said that he gets recognized everywhere now because he's so tall. And he was like, I didn't want fame.

Okay, Dave. And now he's texted me, he's like, I went to Surf Lodge and everyone was going up to me. And I'm like, cool. You're welcome. I'm glad I'm getting you ass now.

But anyway, yeah, I'm like, I believe that like I'll find my person, but I'm not, when you try to find your person, you've projected shit on other people and then you're in an eight eight month relationship that ruins you that's my two cents but you're done with like that you're done with the relationship that ruined you because you said on the show you said on the

show that you went on like antidepressants because of him it was more like he exacerbated it's never because of the guy like I had anxiety from like tennis and like perfectionism and not listening to my like inner voice and not trusting myself and he like brought all that out of me. And then I was like not, I like lost my appetite, which is not like me. And I, my heart was like beating really fast. And I was really, it was just, I was sick to my stomach. You were sick to your stomach for like a long period of time. It was like three or four weeks. Like I remember getting a sandwich at lunch and being really embarrassed that I couldn't eat it. And people were like, then I knew something like that I lived for lunch. I live for breakfast, live for dinner. I live

I wait all day, every minute after breakfast. I'm like, when I'm going to eat lunch? And I couldn't eat it because I was so sick. My stomach was turning. And I finally, like, I broke up with him. And I was like, I need to eat. And I went on antidepressant, just like 20 milligrams of this drug called Paxil. Yeah.

And then, like, and I was going to therapy in like two or three weeks, it, like, I got my appetite back and I was back to normal. But, like, this is a thing with mental health. Are you still taking it? I'm still on it. I think it was good. I love antidepressants. I have the natural brain where like I'm always in my head thinking. Same.

And that's what makes like my Israeli friend said it the best when we're talking about our anxiety. She was like, I can eat my brain with a spoon. Yeah. Like eat it with a spoon. Like dig and dig and dig and dig and dig and dig and another thought. I love this is really saying. I'm telling you, we got it down. And that's why like for me like being the mix like really it adds more eating of the brain.

to me because I live in like different cultures and think in different languages. But a lot of times I'll talk to like my friends who have anxiety about anxiety. And sometimes I'll come to my therapist. I'm like, where are your two cents about eating your brain with a fucking spoon? Like you're not saying. And sometimes I'll tell her. I'll be like my friends add that like when you think about it. And she'll be like, that's a great point. I'm like, yeah, why don't you make it? I'm paying you. Yeah, I didn't have to pay her for that. But it's important to be once you're self aware of it and you accept it, then you don't identify with it. You're like, oh, that's a like annoying, like, I call it like your mean roommate.

That's not you in your head. That's a good place to get to in a healthy place, but that also means that you've come a long away with it. And also, my anxiety is what makes me who I am. It's what made me like a successful tennis player. I literally love hand. I'm going to hold her hand right now because it's really true. Yeah.

And I said that to my therapist the other week. I think I was like, I don't want my anxiety to like not be. Yeah. Like I like it. Why do you think we're so good? at like making all these tweets and why I'm a good comedian is because my brain is always churning

and for every funny thought there's a fucked up thought that I turn funny and for every depressed thought there's a way like I'm just thinking all the fucking time and I'm in my head and sometimes it goes bad but sometimes it goes good people are like how do you come up with these tweets I'm like because my brain doesn't shut the fuck up

my brain like literally I'll reach for my phone like when half like one eye is closed and I'll be like when you eat too much and I'll like write something I thought of and it's legit Like, that's when I get asked, like, how my Instagram started. That's how it started. Like, for me, not falling asleep one night, thinking about the name and just, like, writing shit.

And also, people have talked to me recently. They're, like, your career is going so well. And it's, like, a little bit of anxiety is good because I put every day I wake up and want to do better than the next day. And I'm not about, like, hustle, get up at 6 a.m. No, do what's best for you and what makes you happy. But then, like, own it. We live one life. Someone said a good quote

I think it was Sarah Blakely from She's the owner of She started Spanx She's like iconic Oh my God Cam Kardashian is coming for her With her new shapeboard line Oh yeah that's a whole other

Camono Camono or whatever it's called now She changed it I know we don't know yet We don't know yet TBD You can be like a co-host with me In my pop culture subject

Who knew Girl Oh sorry and my sister When she's my co-host usually Might be replaced I was like, so Kim Kardashian's Chaparline kimono is fucked up because and my sister's like, what's Camano?

And I'm like, well, she needs to watch her back. But the quote that Sarah Blakely said, we're so d-a-d-d-it, it's so funny. She said life is not like a tryout. Like you live one life. It's not like a practice performance. Like, we live one life. Go for it.

Go for it. Go for it. And it doesn't, and like, I sleep till 9.30 every day. I go to it when I eat whatever I want. But it's more like, do what you love and fully commit to it. And my anxiety drives me a little. Drives you a little. And it's not what I try to, my last thing with like my podcast is I'm trying to promote, like, it's not mental illness.

It's mental health. You don't have to be in a psych ward to care about your mind. All of us need to have mental health, just like we need physical health. So I'm trying to just like end that stigma. Yeah. And I think the world is definitely getting better at it. And, like, even, I mean, it sucks that that's the way it works. But celebrities talk about it.

Like, it even helps me. Like, I'll read about celebrities with mental health stuff. And you're like, they have it, too. So, I mean, if I felt alone at 17 having my first panic attack, I definitely don't today. Like, if I ever feel it for a second, I'm like. Our parents didn't even know what panic attacks were. Which makes you think, you know. Like, how lost could they have been back in the day?

Yeah, but also, like, how we're so affected by, like, society and, like, the fact They didn't have that. Let's blame our parents for everything. A hondo. Blame them. Blame them for everything. Hannah, I have like a gazillion more things to ask you, but like we went on for so long about stupid shit. So we're going to have to do this again.

We will. We're going to have to do this again. And I'm definitely going to have you on Burning and Hell. So you guys, if you love Amanda, you want to get to know her a little more, come over to Burning in hell, B-E-R-N-E, B-R-N-I-N-G. That's a good name. Yeah, it's a pun. I'm a last name, Burnet in hell.

And it'll be a good time. And Hannah, tell everyone, where they can find you. Oh, yeah. Follow me at Being Burns, B-E-I-N-G, B-E-R-N-Z. I know, it's complicated. It was like my old username. But if they search Hannah-Burner, you'll be the first person. Search Hannah-Burner.

It's a palindrome. No big deal. What's a-N-A-H. It's spelled the same forward-backward-backword palindrome. Look at you learning new things. things today. I told you, babe. It's okay because I, like, lost a little bit of culture here and there. Yeah, because you have so many other words in your head. I do. That I don't have. And, like, languages. I'm just a dumb New Yorker. So Hannah's, like, hustling galore. We're going to hope

to see her on season four of Summer House. She can't have for her night, but we're going to, like, really hope for it. And I love seeing you on season three. Thank you. I don't know how I'm going to watch one and two if you're not in it. You should watch it, though. I'll probably watch it. Like, just to fill in the time. I need to go back. But I didn't ask you about a gazillion things, so we're going to have to do this again. We'll do a part two. Okay. Sounds good. Bye. Bye. Thank you guys so much for tuning in to another week of the Not Skinny but Not Sad podcast.

Thank you to Hannah Burner. Really enjoyed having her on. I'm going to be on her show, Burning in Hell, pretty soon. So be sure to keep an eye out and tune in when that does happen. Thank you to the Podglomerate Network for editing and producing my show. And you guys, you know, be sure to rate and review the podcast. on Apple Podcasts if you haven't yet, and I will see you next Tuesday.