Not Skinny But Not Fat - The Birthday, The Verdict, and Other Updates

Episode Date: June 7, 2022

Arielle is here and we discuss my 34th bday, the Johnny Depp/Amber Heard verdict, my theory about Kourt, and other celeb updates!  Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hey. Ariel is on the podcast. As you guys love. I can't even like play the hire me, re-fire me, Joe. Wait, what is that? No, don't do that because I get shit for it. It's like, why are you so much cooler than you?

And it's like, do they not get a joke? No, but I am obsessed with that joke because, like, I love to be rehired and I kind of love to be fired. Maybe we should be done with a joke. Okay, fine. It's over. It's so over. We need a new word for over. Honestly, because it's not hired or fired.

It's like you come on whenever you want, whenever we feel like. It's kind of like when you want and I'm like, I'm D. Let's go. Well, you know, two weeks ago, Chloe was on. So we couldn't make it. I'm honored. I'm truly. honored to be here on the pod, babe, this is the third day in a fucking row that I'm drinking

and I'm going out tomorrow also. Okay, listen, can I just tell you something? You're really easily influenced. Like, I didn't have to do much. I literally went to the kitchen, poured myself a glass, and in a second, you were like, fine, pour me one too. Yeah. It didn't take much.

I can't. I don't know why. Some people are so strong. Like, I've, you know, gone out with friends that were either on, like, a diet or, like, whatever. and they weren't drinking and it's like they're so strong where I'm like you suck and they're like we don't care we're on this diet I give in 1,000% to any sort of peer pressure always always unless I have a headache I'm down to drink you know what I mean say say that word again unless I have a

headache do you guys hear that headache head ache unless I have a headache don't head ache don't try to change my English after 29 years of living head head Headache. Headache. Thank you. What else do you say weird? You say other shit weird. Hurricane. How do you say it? Hurricane. Like hurricane. No, she says hurricane. Sorry. Hurricane. Well, anyway, there's just so much going on this week and I just am so excited to delve into it. And, you know, after a few weeks of interviews, it's always fun for me to do an episode where we just like talk about everything that's going on. I just love that. Even though it does get a little bit hard, I'll be honest, like just giving you guys the inside scoop of like, production. Obviously, the podcast can't be edited in like five seconds. So we have to record a few days before it comes out. So like if there's major breaking news, it won't be that day. So that's why you have my Instagram for like the daily momentary fucking updates. And to like delve into it

and like have a little bitch sash, it'll be a few days delayed, which should be NBD. So chill. Okay. Let's first things first. It was my birthday. It was your birthday. It was your birthday. I had such a lovely birthday. Wow. I feel like. Don't feel like. Okay. I know. Okay. I know. You had a great birthday. I think it's that I even asked Hussb. Like I, A, think I've chilled out and I used to take my birthday, you know, and just get upset and, and compare and either to old birthdays or other people's celebrations. But there was nothing to get upset about this time. So like the fact that you've chilled out, But I feel like it was it was legit nothing. No, but I'm just saying I even came into it with not a lot of expectations and just like I even said to I think Allison or or husband like I was like because okay let's let's just give you guys the tea.

It's like in our family when somebody has a birthday, it's like the person whose birthday it is waits for something to be planned for them. So it's kind of like known that oh, the family is going to like do something. something, playing something. There's like a group chat. Like, we all know. Well, obviously, it's always like a surprise. And we've chilled out. We used to do like surprises and like go away to like a house and like an Airbnb.

But that's like wild. And then everyone is sort of. And I kind of do miss that. I like really miss that. I'd love to be surprised with an Airbnb house. But it's just harder to do with like the kids. I know. So hard to do with the kids.

But I will say that like we had to chill out because everyone expected an Airbnb house and like get away. So we were like, listen, back to basics. But still, so this year, the reason why I feel like I chilled out is that I said to husband Allison, I think, I was like, I don't need to be like waiting for you guys to plan something. I can also plan something and just like plan what I want to do. Like Kim took her closest friends to like a private island on her jet. Take us.

You know what I mean? Take us, Amanda. We're here to be taken. I'm just saying that like, you know, I feel like planning your own birthday is also a vibe because then you know like what you want to do. Obviously surprises are fun. But no, it was great. We had a beautiful picnic and went to dinner and then went to another dinner and got a lot of beautiful gifts.

So thank you. It was a real success. I'm so happy about it. Yeah, it was really, really, really gorgeous. Okay. The verdict is in. The verdict is in. Okay.

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3 p.m. is coming, streamed that shit at work. It was so fascinating. First of all, Johnny wasn't there. He was in London performing. And you saw Amber. Don't forget who came to visit him at his performances. His mom. I know. Kind of was hoping for rekindling because they were the hottest couple of all time. And he smiled so big when she came on the screen in her testimony. And she was there for him. She's never appeared in a court before. But she is dating. said she has a wife, so like, I don't know. I mean, that doesn't sound too serious to me. I mean, it's not marriage. Not marriage. Yeah. Anyway, so you were at work. We all need to know where you were. So tell us exactly. So then I streamed that. And then it was so crazy because Amber,

apparently, like, she's not been wearing, she's been wearing, like, colors. I don't know. But, like, she was wearing all black today. Literally, like, black in morning. Dress in mourning. Her face was in mourning. And for some reason, like, it looked like they almost knew what the verdict would be but then like the judge reads off all these questions and it's just like yes yes yes because you guys I'll tell you at the end of the day it's like we're watching the trial and I did a lot of times try to remind you and also me that this isn't about like oh who do you believe and like who sucks and like who was more abusive it had to hit the points of defamation which were very specific so are yel saying they read off the the questions because it was like

did amber show enough evidence to prove and they were like no and did johnny show evidence that to prove that there was like defamation and for him it was like all yes like he proved every single point. Well like you guys don't forget his recordings or the recordings that were supporting his side were there. Yeah. There weren't really recordings or evidence supporting her side and ones that were were kind of like debunked by professionals kind of weird. I said this and I'll say it again. I know 90 something percent of the world is anti Amber and thinks she's like lying. And even if I get kind of bad vibes from her, even if I heard from a lot of people in the industry that she is bad vibes, even if there is a lot of evidence against her, I still

wanted to give her the benefit of the doubt to prove to me, you know, her side. You know, a lot of people are saying in this case, like, to believe her. Then a lot of people are saying, let's not just believe her and blame the man because he's a man, like a man could be a victim. My only thing about it and I posted about this was like in this trial we saw we heard a lot of recordings we saw a lot of text messages like I said the ones that implicated Amber were there there were none really that implicated Johnny what there were were text messages and recordings Johnny being really fucked up being at least aggressive and violent in his words in his text I mean we know he said like fuck her dead corpse so I don't understand how like people that are justice for Johnny

are kind of putting a blind eye to like the fact that like he did not that if you're aggressive in speech and in text and whatever that that means you're abusive like physically but I just think that's not to be ignored that shows that the relationship was very volatile very toxic and there could have been some mutual abuse but like you said that's not what the trial was about the trial was about defamation not whether the relationship was toxic not whether like there was violence there. Like, it was really about defamation and the op-ed that she wrote and all, like, that basically... Right. It was basically that the op-ed that she wrote, even the title was like, I was a victim of domestic violence and even I think she said sexual assault at some point.

Those things, if written and they're untrue and written like with malice, there's like an exact definition of what defamation is, then... Those were the questions that they asked to prove. And it was proved that on John. Because if she did write it with malice that it was untrue and there was so much evidence, you can't even forget that the jury sitting in a court is seeing all this evidence that she planted and she was the one writing on the walls and breaking glass to make believe like Johnny had been there and done that. And it was proven that she sort of orchestrated this for cops to come in and for people to come in to show her to take pictures that were not true. So I think like that was evidence,

But that's not to say that Johnny wasn't fucked up. He wasn't, like, verbally abusive or even, like, physically abusive. We don't know that. But what we do know is that she had done fucked up shit. And she probably had lied even when we see her testimonies. It's a little cringy to watch her try to explain a situation. It's very cringy. But I also think that, like, it's weird as a person, like me, myself and I, that I don't lie.

Right? Like, I can't lie. I'm an open book. I'm so honest, it's always reverving me in life for someone to say that person's lying. And we're not talking like a white lie, right? It's weird to accept that a person is belingently lying, making up entire stories, entire facts in front of a fucking jury, all this shit. Like, I think it's so wild to accept.

Like, under oath. I would, like, be, like, like, shitting my pants, like, lying under oath. This, like, yeah, I guess at the end of the day, I'm kind of trying to understand where I stand with it now, like, can I go back to just, you know, fully loving Johnny, accepting the jury's verdict as my own and saying this means that he's like, you know, vindicated to me as well. And I could go back to having dreams about him, even though I've had a dream. It was really fucked up, you guys. I woke up.

He was my dad. Daddy issue. But also in the dream I was like into him. But I think the dream was just very. discombobulated. So I think the parts that I was into him, he, like, wasn't my dad, but then he was also my dad. I don't want to talk about it. Might need to see a therapist over it. Like, you know my love for him. I've said this over and over. And I've tried to put a blind eye to my love to sort of, you know, not be biased in my opinions on this trial. And it's so polarizing.

And people that feel, you know, one of either way are very passionate about it. And I don't, I didn't watch the entire trial. So I didn't want to make, you know, any blanket assumptions. But that's why I had the lawyer, Emily D. Baker, that even she, who, you know, she's a legal commentator, she's been in the field for over, you know, over 10 years. She was a deputy district attorney, all these things. And I had her on to kind of get an objective side. And even with her, you could tell that because she's a professional and she's objective,

but she looks at evidence. Yeah. So as an objective professional looking at evidence, she's like was skewing towards Johnny. I know. Because of the evidence. Yeah. And I think, like, the people that are, like, so extreme about whose side they're on, that's, like, it's a bit extreme. But at the same.

But, but I think, like, we also need to, like, for a second, think about, like, what Amber is going through right now. And, like, to get that verdict today and to be going through what she's going through. Well, first of all, she's going through regardless. Public massacre. She's hated. The world fucking hates her. Right. But, like, I just, she's a liar.

And that's just like, and this is the most public trial. But you know what people say to that? Like, she deserves it because she ruined his life, you know? Nobody deserves it. Nobody deserves that. And, like, she didn't kill anybody. She didn't kill anybody. And, like, nobody deserved.

Like, that's an extreme, like, situation right now. She's so fucking hated that it's wild and that's what I feel bad for. It's like, put the facts aside who's lying aside and who ruined whose career and took money away from somebody's, you know, pocket. It's more like this girl is universally. almost hated, not believed, even though she is lying, but in her head, I don't know if she knows. I'm not sure what her mental capacity is right now. But so they both made statements, I want to say this here and don't worry, you won't get canceled. You said that her statement kind of hit you the wrong

way. And by the way, I saw a lot of people say that. Like, you're not alone because the only reason is because she didn't make it about herself. She then turned it on to women as if like this is saying that like women don't have like free speech. She said it's a setback for women. It's a setback for women and like she didn't have free speech basically. And I do think that like we've made so much progress in this world. And like it's hopefully not a setback for women. It's just that like she was proven wrong.

So like how about we address that and don't make it about women as a whole? You know that that was so wrong of her. And I hope she had teams look over this because the whole point in this case where people were team Johnny and kind of saying. was saying let's not blindly believe women just because they're women because men can be victims of abuse too. We see it less, but like that was a point. So you're going to take the point

that struck a chord with so much of the world that they decided to believe Johnny based on evidence and whatever that you're going to say, oh, you should have believed because I was a woman. But that's the thing. It's like, honey. Like if honey, oh, honey. She feels some things.

If there was evidence supporting her argument, meant, I promise you, the world will be on her side. She wrote in her thing, like, despite mountains of evidence. And I'm like, what mountains of evidence, babe? But that's like the jury isn't sitting there. Like when Emily D. Baker was on my podcast, she was like, juries take things very seriously. This isn't a joke to them. This isn't like pop culture hour for them.

They take this job very seriously. They can't discuss the case. They can't talk about the case. They can't anything. So, like, they're not sitting there. Like, we love him in Pirates of the Caribbean. And, like, they're looking at the questions the judge asked, which, like, what a cute judge, by the way. Like, if you're ever going to court, I'd be like, could I have Penny?

Please. She's really nice. But, like, I mean, you can't take away, though, the very important fact that Johnny is so fucking charismatic and likable. And Amber is so wildly unlikable. Yeah. You know? So, anyway, this isn't a podcast just about that. It's just, we wanted to talk about the outcome.

And I wonder what's going to happen next is her career. over, is it, you know, is his career going to reboot? Or he keep, in his statement, he was just saying how happy he is that the truth came out. Came out. And that, you know, for his kids and for everything. Okay, most of you probably already heard me sing the praises of pros, the world's most personalized hair care. And for those who haven't, I want to tell you about my experience with pros and the results that I'm so happy about since using them. I've actually been using them for years now. Ever since personalized hair care became a thing, I was probably the first to sign up because until that point, I was just buying whatever was at like the grocery store

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We lived it. We loved it. We breathed. We talked about it. I just want to say, again, obviously, in pictures that came out, again, people were like, Courtney looks pregnant. From pictures in the elevator, it looked like she was holding her tummy, like, not necessarily looking pregnant. She was also, like, drinking, though.

Oh, she was? Yeah, there was, like, pictures where she was, like, holding wine glasses. But, like, what shocks me is that people will still say this. and speculate, which, like, I know people mean well because they know that she wants to get pregnant. But I think more because of the fact that we know that she wants to get pregnant, let's not speculate until, you know. Until it's confirmed.

I mean, listen, she's drink and come. She's doing all the things. Wait, I could not. Did you watch that episode? Oh, my God. I did and I died. Died. Died. Died. And like Cravis is like, Kravis.

I know. I call him Kravis too. It's such a problem. Such a problem. And Travis is like going along. with like everything. It's like, I love this doctor. I'm like, I feel bad for husband, honestly.

Because like, I just want to say that. Because that is not, I'm not getting all the iron that Courtney is getting. Let's just put it that way. She also changed her name to Courtney Kardashian,

Barnker, on Instagram, which is so funny. It's, I think I did like a question box like a poll a while ago is like, us basic bitches

change her name sometimes like on Instagram or Facebook before we, like actually do it legally. Like you never know if somebody does that on like Facebook or Instagram

does that mean that they change their name or does that mean I just assume it's not legal it's like just I feel like she will though and also KKB kind of a vibe.

I love no I love the way it sounds even Courtney Kardashian Barker like Barker is a hot last name I mean it's cute it's cute there are two more episodes of the Kardashians left which is wild

that the season is almost over I feel like it just started and I feel like I watched an episode yeah it went really quickly and it's kind of a fun watch and I'm excited I mean we know

there's going to be a season two wonder if there's going to be more Pete what is there going to be what are your feelings on Pete lately

because I sometimes like you know as my brother-in-law or whatever he's going to be there are moments where I'm like what's you doing fam

listen I never thought he was attractive until like Kim literally. Really? And now are you super attracted?

I mean, like, I just feel like he's hot. Like, there is a vibe there. I mean, the thing is, I'll tell you guys this. I had a dream about Johnny Depp. I'm probably not having a dream about Pete. Like, I don't think I, I think they're so cute and they're hot together. Like, whatever she posted on. Maybe that's the thing.

They're hot together. It's kind of like, they're hot together. So now I think he's hot. It's kind of like MGK and Megan Fox is like she elevates him into like being a hot couple. True, true, true, true, true. But I don't know if I'm having sex streams about him. No, no sex dreams, but about J.B. I was going to say.

Like, do you know how many? J.B.'s back and, like, dance moves when he barely even, he's barely moving. He's like, rib, rib, rib, we're like, oh, my God. Like, literally. That's why Haley can go to every fucking, you know, purpose tour. It's like, stay home, Haley for five seconds of your life. No, why stay home? Why stay home when you can go?

I'd go to, I'd go to a million tours. Are you kidding? I can't. I'd go anywhere. She'd go anywhere. Well, I just wanted to know there is a Goop and Push collab. As we saw in this last episode of Claire Kardashians, that Push and Goop did a collab.

There's going to be a candle called Smells Like My Pushy. I'm down for it. I feel like it's a perfect collab, Goop and Push. I know. I feel like they go hand in head. I know. I mean, they go hand in hand because, like, they're in the same space, but there's room for everybody in the space.

Okay. Kim did a Beyond Meat. Are you jealous? You love Beyond Meat. She did a Beyond Meat partnership. Listen, because I'm like. She loves it. I don't know. I was not a vegan, but she like eats random shit that's planned based and it's so annoying. It's so annoying. Because I'll literally like buy Beyond Meat, eat it every week. Love it. Like almost prefer it sometimes, sometimes. And then I'll mix it with like everything non-vegan in the world. And it's like, what am I trying? is she doing? What is she doing? What is she doing? What is she doing? I'll come over and she's like, we're having burgers. It's beyond. I'm like, you literally eat turkey roll-ups all fucking day with

cheese. More than that, you'll eat a turkey sandwich with vegan cheese. No, legit. Like, I don't get it. I don't get me. I don't get it either. Like, but I will say, but I will say that I've tasted beyond me that your house once and it was good. And I, we know that Kim likes it because I feel like this isn't the first time she's supposed to be on. And. Kim kind of makes her own partnerships happen, if you think about it. Like her Balenciaga partnership happened after she was wearing Balenciaga everywhere. And her Beyond Me partnership happened after. But did you see actually Luke Cook, who's actually Kara Cook's husband,

Kara Cook, who I use as a stylist for everything. So her husband is really funny. He's Australian as an actor and he does like funny shit. So he made a real kind of making fun of the fact that it looks like she's not actually biting into, like she's not eating in the commercial. Yeah. And it was so funny. I have to show you it if you didn't see it.

Like, hilarious. I was dying. You could tell him his real, like it does look like she's not actually eating. But then she clapped back yesterday. I don't know specifically at him or like just at the noise the internet was making about it. And she posted kind of like BTS of her actually eating it during the commercial. And you never know with those things. Like was this pre-planned?

Not with him. But with the, yeah, yeah. To like, I don't know. It's just like all of a sudden there was so much footage. of her, like, literally biting into it. No, because you have to think about it. Like, when you're shooting something, you know that you're shooting something a thousand times over.

So you're probably taking 100,000 bites. So there's going to be all this footage of you actually. So why not use, like, that footage? I mean, I don't know. That's a good question. Maybe it doesn't look good to actually eat. Maybe. But in the outtake, she is, like, like, eating the burger.

She took off one side of the bun. And then she's biting, like, into the burger, but not even at the bottom slice of bread. And I'm like, girl. Oh, the bird. Which, like, I don't know. Was this filmed before the Met Gout? No, it couldn't have been filmed for the Med Gala because her hair is super blonde.

So it's after. It's after she lost the 16 pounds. She's trying to stay really skinny. Anyway, Spidey is pregnant again. I saw. Which, like, I guess the raw meat cow tongue and tonsils diet was working for her. I don't even want. I have no comment.

No, I have no comment. I mean, I'm happy for that. great but like can't get those images out of my head forever no Kylie has been showing off her body postpartum a lot there is a insert room account that kind of like delves into like so love's bodies and if they've done stuff and she had this wild theory that it was so wild that it like kind of held water that she was like this is what's going to happen Kylie's going to give birth you're going to not see her body for a couple months then she's going to show you that she's, like, trying to get back in shape.

You're going to see her on a treadmill or, like, whatever. And then she goes, and then in May, this is what the account said. And then in May, she's going to, like, give us kind of, like, a bikini pick. And then, like, we're going to, whatever. And this was legit how it went down. And what I would say to that is, like, I don't know. But you don't get super skinny from walking on a treadmill. Let's be honest.

No, she's probably doing more. But where do you see the bikini pick? What this account is saying is like that she would have done a tummy tuck or some shit like that. Not like doing more like eating healthy. Okay. Well, Kylie's... I just feel like celebs do that.

I feel like they just have a baby. They wait the three months because, oh, she was also saying that like you can only do it like the tummy tuck or whatever after like three months. Got it. Well, I feel like Kylie would get a tummy tuck. So like it makes sense. It all makes sense. It makes sense.

And also her stomach. is so, like, usually, like, it is actually tucked. It's, like, so tight, so tucked. Like, so everything. And you're like, yeah, she props got a tummy tuck. Yeah, I feel like it's just standard. The way, like, the way a rhinoplasty is standard in Hollywood. And everyone hears of, like, Mommy Makeover is, like, Lala from Randapump

Rolls. She's a very honest person. So she just posted on social media, like, a few weeks ago that she's about to get her mommy makeover and I DM do it. And I was like, oh, my God, what is that? And she was like, my booze, my this, my that. I was like, why do you need that?

And then I feel bad because I think that's my gut reaction is to just tell people like they don't need things. Yeah. But if it makes them feel good, then it makes them feel good. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah. Okay.

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How often? How often in your opinion should a celebrity or influencer do it? Oh, definitely not every day. I would say once a week. Once a week? Once a week. Babe, I do one like once every like two months. No, I know. You never do it.

You literally never do it. But if you did more, I'm sure. I'm so mysterious, you guys, I never do it. You're so mysterious. You never do it. But, like, you also, like, share everything that you're doing every second of the day. So, like, but like, no. even if it's not once a week, once every two weeks, whatever. Not every day, not multiple

times a week. Like, let's keep it like light. But at the same time, I do love it because like, think about, think about that. Like somebody you follow who you love. Like, you'd want to read their like, ask me anything. Yeah, I know. But I feel like the real celebs that I want to know will, like, will answer just like promotional things and not what I care about. Right. Right. They might be too cool for school. Did you see that Margaret Kwali from Maid and Jack Antonoff who is a musician and he was dating Lena Dunham. They're engaged. I saw.

I love her. She's so cute. She's so cute. Do you know what a good show? I think I get told sometimes that I look like her? No. Yeah, I don't say it either, but I got told it before. No.

But yeah, they're engaged. Becca Kaye from the Bachelor and Bachelorette proposed to Thomas. I know. I saw that. What a plot twist. I know. I feel like she proposed just to post that it was a plot twist. But I'm like, I have a question.

Yeah. Is she not going to get a ring? Right. Like what now? And like, he'll get a ring. But like, was he planning to also? What's so wild is like he was so unlikable in his season. And I also never thought that they would last. Like I thought he was a player. Like, she has a weird taste though, because she was with that guy Garrett. Yeah. Yeah. So I don't know, but congratulations. Congratulations to them. Did you see that I was posting a lot about MGK's foot fetish and then it turned out that like I wasn't guessing it because I was like I feel like he has one and then literally I found so much evidence to back it up like he legit has a foot fetish like Cravis right but Cravis hasn't admitted it but it's so true by the way

I've said this on cards catch up I always think like Cravis is like the instigator of like let's tongue let's like be weird and then I kind of slowly realized like on the Kardashians as well that Courtney kind of seems like to be very, very heightened sexually. And then StepShap posted like a carousel and one of the photos had like a picture of her feet and she had like a boo-boo in her toes. And Courtney commented, what happened to those beautiful toes of yours? I was like, for a minute. Oh, my God.

Felt so sexual. Oh, my God. Like she's loving feet. Courtney is on one. Yeah. She is on one. She's so sexual. She's so sexual.

I couldn't, like, with that episode when they were at Chris's for dinner, like, I was literally dying. It's almost like so cringy to be around them. Like, how do people do it? It's like, it's a lot. You know what I think? I used to think, because a lot of people want to know if, like, court is next to my podcast. I'm like, obviously she was my number one dream for a while.

And then I realized that she isn't a podcast person. Like, we know that she's kind of has like. stage fright and she's not so good at like publicly speaking like Kim for example and that's why I think she told me at the Hulu red carpet she was like we should do a day because I think she had thought about it and she knows that like podcasts that aren't for her so she's more into doing a day I mean we're down for a day no we're down for a day but what I'm saying is I really think and I believe in myself and in her that I could bring out a good interview I feel you could definitely bring out a good interview yeah like she's thinking of like

questions that, you know, major media asks her. I'm going to ask her, like, does Kravis have, oh, why are we calling him Cravis? Does Travis have a foot fetish? Like, what's your favorite position? Like, I want to get into it. You know, it's crazy that she would have this, like, fear, like this, you know, stage fright or, you know, she's not good speaking publicly, but, like, she's speaking to a camera all the time and she speaks really well. Like, she's interviewing I know that she, but she, in the episode that you haven't watched yet, when she meets with Gwyneth Paltrow to do the Goup and Pooch collab, which a lot of people are saying, it's poop, push and goop.

She was like nervous. Like, she gets nervous. You know what I mean? Like, she kind of looked like she was at a job interview. She was kind of like giddy. So I think that's just my assumption. No one has told me this. That's just kind of what I think.

Can we talk about Madonna's Instagram? Oh, I haven't been on there. Oh, my God, you guys. If you want some nightmares, then you should go on Madonna's Instagram because I don't know what to tell you. I really, really don't know what to tell you. There are moments where it is pretty scary.

But anyway, I just wanted to see if all saw that. And I wanted to see if you guys have seen that, if you don't. I see it now. I see it now. Yep. I'm thoroughly disturbed. Oh, my God, how cute.

It was Tom Holland's birthday. and Zendaya posted the cutest photo of them and wrote Happiest of birthdays to the one who makes me the happiest, which somehow is the cutest caption I've ever read. That's so cute. Isn't it so cute? No, that's so cute and I might steal it. Copy paste.

Oh my God, do you know who did that once? Nick Vile's girlfriend. Yeah, that's a copy paste, but like not a paragraph. She stole from Phineas's girlfriend. Anyway, Skin by Kim Kardashian came out. KK. So if you guys get it, it's S KKN. So you obviously read it as skin, but it's also her initials. So she just posted a few days ago. I'm excited to introduce skin by Kim, a rejuvenating nine product skincare ritual. It has an ad heronic acid, vitamin C, toner, exfoliator,

moisturizer, and nighttime oil. And I think people are confused because, because they're like, wait, is this, what KKW Beauty was? But if you guys remember KKW Beauty wasn't skincare, it was beauty. Right. And I thought it was just funny because one of you guys DM'd me, can Kylie have one thing? Because, like, I think she had the lips up first and then Kim came out with whatever. She had the PJ first. Could you, how funny is it that Kylie had a PJ before Kim?

Yeah, because like, I feel like... It's like new money and old money. New money, old money. That's like, that's like that's a. it. But it's so, it, when I had a thought and it literally just escaped. Okay. Think on it. I want to talk about Kim's PJ for a minute. Oh, okay. Oh, I remembered for skin. It's so crazy because like everything that Kim produces, like the color scheme is always the same. And it's the color scheme of her house. It literally is her house. That color, that like brown,

matte, beige color. Yeah. Always. Yeah. Such. I mean, listen, she keeps, she stays on brand, which is amazing. And I just want to say, because you know this about me and also about you, like, we don't love to fly. I always, in my mind, like, when I see celebs on private jets, I'm like, I'd literally rather not be in a private jet. Like, I'd rather be on a commercial flight. So it's, like, big and sturdy and whatever. And seeing Kim's PJ in this last episode that you haven't seen yet, I would go on her private jet. What, it's huge. It's also just, like, doesn't have that claustrophobic feeling because it's literally made out of beige cashmere.

Okay. So it just feels like kind of open and like more of a vibe. So when you have a private jet, do you think it means you also have like a pilot that's on demand? She's my sister because that was my number one question. Is it like what like do you have to like text a pilot? And also like are you picking the pilot? Like do you get to choose like what pilot? Right.

Like I'm sure she's not getting a random pilot. I'm sure she's like hand selecting the pilots and reviewing. Ariel would know like what engines. Of course I would know what engines. Genreel literally because of her, like, she'll tell me like, what plane is it? Is this 747? That's 3-2-3.

It has a Rolex engine. Like, she'll like tell me for Rolex engine. Rolex and a Rolls-Royce engine. You guys, did you know planes have Rolls-Royce engines? Literally so many planes. The majority of planes. Anyway, she's your girl if you want to know more about flights. Did you know that Billy Elish had a boyfriend?

His name is Matthew Tyler Vores. And they've split. But there are a lot of. rumors that he cheated and he's really trying to clear that up because could you imagine the wrath of Billy Irish fans thinking you cheated on Billy Irish? No, that's like, no. Like you would not want that. By the way, speaking of skincare, road skin by Haley Bieber is about to come out in June. So I'm not saying there isn't space for everyone in the space, but I'm just saying it's getting crowded. It's getting so crowded. But let me tell you, do know how excited people are for road skin. And I don't know

if it's because. I'll tell you why. Because her skin is so good. Because, like, she's 20. Because she's perfect. But she's 20. I know she's 20. But she's somehow made, she somehow made herself associated with perfect skin. Like, look at, like, Kylie's also 20 when she launched or younger.

Like, no, like, just. Oh, the shade. No, but I'm just saying, like, Haley. She glows. What a shining light. I mean, she really is trying to align with a glazed donut. And, like, I don't love that because that isn't her thing. like going to sleep like a glazed donut is kind of like something passed down through generations

that you're told by like your mom. So and she kind of really leaned into it and did her whole campaign about that. But I want to tell people that don't know. People are very excited about Road. People are going to buy Road. And apparently it's going to be also at a very good price point. So she's winning. People are going to buy Road.

Like I'm buying Road. I just wanted to say something weird about the Johnny Depp trial. So first of all, people are obsessed with him. course and also with his team. Camille Vasquez. I mean like obsessed with Camille. Are you obsessed with Camille? She literally, wait, did nobody notice? She cried like at the end. You could see that she was getting so emotional today because she's an associate at that law firm. That bitch is getting a promotion. Oh, look at that bitch is getting such a promotion. But did no one find this amusing that like the way she questioned Amber Hood was always like, didn't you? I literally like legally blonde vibes. Like she would just like. She would just like.

She would just be like, and then you told your friend to come over. Didn't you? And you got a perm. Didn't you? Like that. Like that was not my question. Miss Hurd. Miss Hurd.

Miss heard. Miss heard. But you know what Emily D. Baker told me. She was like it's a not for sure, but a lot of the times it's a tactic to bring in a woman. First of all, if you bring in a man, then it will look like kind of like a power imbalance with the woman who's on the sand like Amber. No, it's definitely a strategic move. And also to get under her skin. It was 100% a strategic move, but like the 100% right move and she was killing it.

She was savage. No, totally. But also Ben Chal was so cute and he got also emotional in the closing statements for Johnny. Like they all love him. He wins over literally everyone. But anyway, so Camille Vasquez herself has like two fan pages. One at almost like 200,000 followers and literally. So I was looking at this fan page and I saw that Ashley Benson,

liked every single photo in the Camille Vasquez fan page. And at first I was like, okay, maybe she like, you know, just loves Johnny. Then I saw that when Johnny posted his statement today after winning, Ashley Benson commented on it. So then I was like, hmm, and literally recollected that Ashley Benson dated Kara de Levine. Okay? Kara de Levine had a thing with Amber Heard. allegedly, but also like kind of confirmed in this trial, Amber Hurd, Elon Musk, and Kara Delavine had a threesome.

Moreover, okay, because there is more surprisingly, there's another connection between Amber Hurd. Okay, between Amber Hurd and Ashley Benson, which makes me think does Ashley Benson know something? And that's why she's so pro-Johnny. Ashley Benson dated James Franco She was with him in the movie Spring Breakers That I weirdly saw

It's such a weird fucking movie Selena Gomez is also in it So Ashley Benson dated James Franco James Franco and Amber heard Also had a thing that was confirmed in the trial She like made out with him And I think in the elevator And she was with him on a movie set

And Johnny was jealous allegedly according to Amber Ashley knows something There is a reason why Ashley is so pro Johnny And I feel like she's so invested. And I just thought that was a really interesting little tidbit. She definitely knows something. It's not a thing. She definitely knows something she's invested.

She's clearly pro-Johnny following Camilla, Camille Vasquez fan pages. And I'm about to go follow them too. Okay. Another wild thing that happened is that Liam Payne from One Direction went on Jake Paul's podcast and basically admitted that he kind of hates. Zane, Malik, and said like... Are you surprised, though?

I'm more surprised that he would, like, say it on a podcast. But basically, I'll sum it up. He said that he's a dick. Are you surprised? But he said that... Liam Payne was kind of like, I grew up in a very supportive household, very, like, you know, whatever.

Zane really didn't. He grew up in a terrible household. So it's kind of like trying to excuse his behavior. Like, on one hand, saying is a dick. on the other hand saying like there is a reason why. Yeah. He's a dick. Yeah.

Meanwhile, Zane is selling merch. So he's trying to make that book. But it kind of didn't age well because there were allegations that Zane like hit Yolanda or something. Yeah. So the way Liam was talking about Zane and like his temper and like he apparently got into a fight with Jake Paul, Zane. Anyway, it didn't look good for Zane, this interview. Let's just put it like that. And also I wonder what's happening.

with Gigi and Zane. Like, are you together? I don't think it's happening. What do you mean, are you together? Like, I mean, I guess you never know. It looks like Amy Schumer posted in favor of Amber on her Instagram. She quoted Gloria Steinem and wrote, any woman who chooses to behave like a full human being should be warned that the

armies of the status quo will treat her as something of a dirty joke. She will need her sisterhood. Seems to me like this has to do with the verdict, but you can't be sure. Anyway, Ariel, anything else from this week, my little gemma lem? No, you covered it all. Covered it all. Mm-hmm. As you always do.

Bim. Bim. Listen, even if I give my sister shit on here, it's out of, like, the most love in the world. There is no person, like my sister, Ariel, and the entire world. Oh, my God. Well, you know this. I mean, like, it wasn't expecting you to get romantic. Well, I've had a glass of wine.

No, but she really is the best person in the entire. world. Everything that you see is what you get. Sometimes I'm like, I love you, mom, but how did you birth this amazing creature? Wow, you're getting so romantic. And then my mom tells me like, by fluke, Amanda, by flu. She doesn't like when I say that. And then every time she compliments Noah, she's like, how is he like this Amanda by fluke? Anyway, Ariel, people want you to go public so they can follow you. She doesn't post anything. So like, oh, I'm like the most uninteresting person on Instagram. I never post anything. The most they posted was like you dancing on your birthday, which like, I love those videos. Well, thank you for everything you did for me in my life and on my

birthday. I love you. Thanks for listening, guys. And if you're half as sweet as Ariel, you will rate and review the podcast and show your love because as you can see, I'm an appreciative bitch. Thank you. See you next Tuesday. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcasts and write a little review.

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