Not Skinny But Not Fat - THE GARCIA TWINS: FKA The Bella Twins on the Name Change, Living Super Close & The Power of Twinhood

Episode Date: October 3, 2023

Brie & Nikka Garcia, formerly known as The Bella Twins, reflect on their time in WWE, if they miss it, reasons behind the name change, becoming moms at the same time, and more!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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breaking beauty podcast. This is Amanda Hirsch from the Not Skinny but Not Fat podcast. You might know me from Not Skinny Bonatha on Instagram where I spend my time talking about reality TV, celebrities, everything happening and pop culture. I also talk to some of our favorite celebs and reality TV stars. We talk about what's going on. Tune in every Tuesday and just feel like, you're talking a shit with your best friends in your living room. You guys, I'm so excited. Nikki and Bree Garcia are here today. Formerly known as the Bella Twins.

Formally. Formally. F-K-A. Yes. You know what that was the thing? So let's talk about that, first of all, because that's a huge change that happened pretty recently for people that didn't know. Yeah.

You now go by your actual last night. The roots. The roots. Yeah. It's been, well, and it's crazy because it is still so new. And it's still difficult because even at times I'll be on calls and I'm like, yeah, just tell them the Bellas are coming. I'm like, I mean, the Garcia's.

The Garcia is not the Bellas because that's what we were almost the past 20 years. Well, 16 years. Well, 16. Okay. Almost 20. Look, I'm glad that you. You rounded up, but it just felt real high. But, you know, for Bree and I, it was like, so a year before our contract was coming up, we just knew that, like, we wanted to walk away and that we were kind of done with this chapter in our life.

But the one thing we knew is, like, wait, if we leave WWE, we're going to lose our name. And we had to really do the work for, like, a year before our contract was coming up and we had to make that decision. Like, wait, do we just stay because we are the Bella twins. and, like, we've created this career and this empire around that, or do we walk away from it all? And as we enter this new amazing chapter in our lives, we just go in as the Garcia twins and who we were before the Bellas. Right.

And so we had to work with a life coach, like, literally with this to, like, really cause it. Because it's an identity thing. Yeah. Yeah. Not only to the world, but, like, to who you are. Right. And we have this incredible Bella army. Like, we literally have this insane fandom worldwide because WD's in 147 countries.

So it became very into our relationship with. them was so intimate and strong and a lot of inspiration. So for us, we even thought about them. Like, how are they going to feel? Like, they can't be called the Bell Army anymore. And we were thinking about all these things. It took us a year to really process that. Did you think of other names? Or did you know, like, if you're going to something, you're going back to the roots? We did go, should we go by our married names? I was thinking that. Yeah. But like, yours is a really hard one. And that's what everyone said. They go, well, Nikki. How do you say it? Can you pronounce it? Yeah, Chigvinsive. Okay. I was kind of have to put a head. Yeah. You put a lot of head.

moving chikvin but then we thought like but then do people just call us the twins like Nikki Brie the twins yeah her and I were like it's hard when you're twin like to I mean we're twins which is rare and entertainment there's only so many twins so that's a special thing so we were like we do need someone to be like the something twins yeah can't be Danielson chivinsib twins yeah that'd be weird but did you guys change your your last names to your husbands because on Instagram I saw that you added it yes I added it but I haven't legally done yet because, and it's not even like, I just, she told me, she was, do you think you're going to get it all done within a year? And I'm like, I will. And I have it. Did you legally change yours?

I did. She has. Don't, but I told you the website that really helps. Hitch, hit something. Yeah. I did. I got it like done within a week. Yeah. Because trust me. But I feel like most people, like, like, most people just change it on Instagram. Yeah. I agree. It's so much now. Don't change all their social security and their credit cards. It's insane. Too much paperwork. Because you have to go to DMB and then you have to like call social security and you have to call birth certificate you have to do all the things. Yeah. And I did it all. Legally. Chickensiv. So I think because he is, I'm not in a rush. Right. You know. But also do you have those moments where you're like, I want to be what he is? Yes. Yeah. Because we were somewhere and they came up to my husband and they go, hi, Mr. Garcia. Mr. they called who?

Arden. Oh. And Ardom goes. And but because I checked in with my last name, he goes, you know, when are you going to be chick vintiv? So they just. just call us all the same thing. Yeah. And I was like, okay, well, true. When I call my son's doctor and I'm like, I'm Amanda Hirsch and he's Noah White. And it's like, you just want to be the same. Be the same. So you knew that if you're choosing a name to go by the twins, it was going to be Garcia. Yeah. But then you had to like work on it with a life coach and get comfortable with this new. Well, her and I said, if we're not going to go by our married last names, we got to go back to our roots, which everyone knew us before wrestling as a Garcia twins. And we're kind of proud of that because her and I, you know, we are, we're Mexican-Italian, very proud Latinas.

And so we're like, it is cool to go back to Garcia. Yeah. Kind of where it started, you know? No, it's true. But yeah, so we did the work and that's what we settled on. And it's that transition, though, like between letting go of that name and it's been a tough transition. Yeah. It's been, there's been a lot of positives.

And I was shocked about that. But you know what's the hard part for me when it's been. it's hard for people to understand because majority people in entertainment, it's not WDB entertainment. Like when you're thinking of Hollywood, they come in and they have their name. Like they legally won it. A lot of times is a stage name too. It's a stage name. Right. But like they own it. So like they don't ever have to change that or worry about it. We didn't own the Bella Twins. And so it's hard to tell people like, oh, so that's an IP for WWE and you go into the whole thing and they're like, no, but you're the

Bella Twins. Like what are you talking about? And so that's been the heart. thing because then for people too it's hard for them to understand then but wait if you're going to lose the name then why didn't you stay you know like as that point when you when you left though you weren't wrestling anymore right we were just like ambassadors so what was your role at that point you have to make like when you're an ambassador you have to make up to like 12 appearances a year so whether they're at paper views or charity event or whatever they might be having that's like kind of what you're supposed to do but when you're using their name so brey and I are like one of the women that, you know, transitioned and broke into Hollywood.

So it was kind of first for them that when we're doing all these other shows, because they own our name, we have to ask for permission. And then they have the ownership. And that was just, it was becoming a different world. And I think, too, it was a world they weren't experienced in because there was only like the Rock and John Cena for them. And now here are these girls that broke into Hollywood and they're like, wait, now there's divas and bellas.

and now they're hosting Barmageddon and Twin Love and it was all these contract talks. And that became very difficult. So when we're about to be 40 and we're moms and we haven't wrestled in three years, it was like, okay, as we're entering this new chapter and this contract's coming to an end, we just kind of take ownership of ourselves. Yeah. Because it's hard, too, when you're in that world that's just wrestling driven and they're so focused on the talent in the ring, which they should be.

It was hard for us to continue to grow in the space we wanted. You know, it's hard to, like, tell wrestling coach, like, hey, I'm doing this mom thing and I just kind of want to mom it up. Yeah. And their focus is like, but there's a pay-per-view. You could be a guest in and bra, you know, so it's tough. But it would be smart of them to lean in because think about like Peloton, right? Right. All these instructors come on.

They get mega famous. Yeah. They do other things. They're writing books. They're doing all these things like, WWE should catch on to what's happening and be like, you know, we're helping. make people into these like powerhouses so and become a brand and all these things which is which is such a positive but right people that don't get in aren't aren't reading between the lines there is a logistic aspect here which is you love the wwe you're not going to use the name that

they kind of did they come up with it for you no we did you did they just own the IP so it's like we came up when yeah when we made it to tv they were like and even we sent our contract like so we don't like people using the real names so instead of being called a garccio twins, what do you want to be called? And we were like, oh, well, our grandfather, full-blight Italian, you know, what I'd always call us Bella. So why don't we be the Bella twins? Like, you know, not our pop-up who, like, helped raise us an amazing man. And he had passed away, like, not even a year before we had signed that contract. So we just wanted to kind of do that for him. And then you just sign it over. Yeah.

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rock kind of transition. Did you guys consult with them or ask them for advice while like making this transition? No, we should. No, we should have. Why didn't you call them? Hey, Dwayne. Yeah, he still call you the Rock. So let us not. Oh, yeah. True. Do you know what happened there? So you don't know what happened there? Well, I think it's different for men than women, you know. So there was never even a conversation. I think a lot of us actually, we thought, oh, maybe there'll be a conversation because we have such a huge brand. And we were actually making W to be a lot of money. So we actually thought there was going to be a conversation of like, okay, if you guys aren't resigning, let's talk about the name. Maybe when you do future projects, we take a percentage.

You keep the name. There was no conversation. I'll be honest. I got a lawyer letter four hours for my contract designing. And they were seizing it all. So, and I keep that letter in my office so I could always see it and just know that as I enter this new chapter, that it's like I get to see what wasn't even talked about of something I built for 20 years, but know that I have the power as a woman to build

something else for the next 20 years. So, and it was upsetting because we were attached. But also I get it business. Like, hey, this is our platform and I get it. I'm very understanding. in that way of like that that's that is their IP yeah but we would have continued to have built that you know yeah like help me like hand washes a hand like but we were prep for it so during that year prep that actually helped when that happened because I was prepared to be

Nikki Garcia that Saturday morning that you guys have like a party like a name change party or something we actually did you did popped a bottle of opus one we did you know it's funny because I I feel like it was a weird feeling. It was very bittersweet. Oh, of course. You know. We're attached to it. Yeah, we were attached to the Bell of Twins.

And so we were sad to see that go, but we were like, this freedom and this new chapter. It's exciting. Scary but exciting. And I think that's what we celebrated more was just like, what's next? Yeah. Now the world is our oyster. We can do whatever the F we want. And it's just a name.

It really is. And at the end of the day, it's just the name. Yeah. Like my name is not skinny enough out. What a dumb fucking name. that I'm stuck with, you know? I'll talk to you when I want to rebrand. Yeah.

Ask you how you do that. Wait, John, Sina doesn't have a WW name. So before Bree and I, the year we signed, which 2007, right? Or six, something like that. So that year is when Vince started to be like, wait, I don't want people to have their real names anymore. So we came in the first year where we were lucky enough because we got to keep our first names. They were just changing last names.

For talent now, they fully change your name. Like, they don't want. any part of your birth certificate, a part of your stage name. So we were just happened to be that first year where they're like, let's at least start to get rid of last names. You, though, were born Stephanie. Yeah. My parents, you know, they were barely 19.

So they call me Stephanie and Nicole. But my mom's like, but I like Nicole. And I don't want Stephanie. So fine, we'll name her Stephanie Nicole, but we'll always call her Nicole. And so my whole life. Oh, so it was never Stephanie, really. No. So names have always been confusing.

Yeah, you guys. People will always find the girl with a million names. Yeah. And then there was like, when I started playing soccer, there was Nicole on the team. So my mom and me, it was like, oh, just call her Stephanie. And I was like, fifth grade, like, wait, what? So soccer people called me Stephanie. School people call me Nicole.

Wrestling people call me Nikki. I go by all three. I respond to all three. And I call her all three of them. No, you don't. Like you're mad at her. You're like Stephanie. No, when I'm mad at her, it's Nicole.

Nicole. That makes sense. And she's Brianna. But Stephanie, when I'm around all three of her. or soccer friends or, like, people from that world. I can't... Oh, yes. What?

I can easily go back to, like, go on your stuff. When did you stop playing? So, second year in college, for me, I mean, it's crazy to think. But I was 20, so almost 40, so 20 years ago, but we all still talk. And my competitive soccer girls, we all played together for 11 years straight. So... We're both of you, like, the same level at soccer? I mean, I was a little bit better.

I'd love to see you play center mid. Oh. You had different roles on the field. I, like, don't know the names. So my fact, check, her to my rate, I won all the awards. I did win awards, though. Yeah, but I won the ones that were ranked a little higher. Okay, look, I like to mess with her.

Yeah. But she was such a good player. And this girl has endurance, like, I've never seen. Like, she's the energizer bunny. I'm trying to think, like, who I would be more scared of in the rank. I think, Ray. Yeah. Bree's, like.

I feel like her look is. Like I'm a silent killer Yeah, she's like She's a chihuahua That's what I used to say She's like scrappy Chihuahua aren't scary Oh really? Have you seen a chihuahua

Getting loud? So what, no If you're saying a chihuahua You're saying she's allowed But she's harmless Oh well then I feel like I'm a wolf Quiet

No I can't even hear me I see that I see that Yeah I see that And also Brie Was the one to introduce you

To WWE Yeah Yeah How did you get turned on to it I saw that they were on a search for women wrestlers. So I don't, did you ever watch a glow on Netflix? That's the newest show though.

Yeah. Yeah. But so what, if you saw, you saw how like all of a sudden there was like a thing like. But the actual glow came out in the 80s. Yeah. But they were like on a search for women wrestlers and you kind of were just like, shit, I want to go try this. So when I saw it. But you were familiar with it because of hooters.

Yeah. We were hooter girls. We watched the pay-per-views. And I thought it was amazing what the women were doing. But when I heard about this diva search, I was kind of. of like this sounds really cool and I was telling Nicole about it and she was like well that's interesting because she wanted to go play pro ball in Italy soccer. So I was literally training to go to that because I was just playing at Grossmont College and which was community

because before I was going to play for ASU broke my leg in half before signing and at the time the women's pro league was up so I was going to play for the Arizona heat wave then the women's league folded for I mean gosh up until a few years ago right but so the women's league folded up that time for me in 2002. And I just kind of was lost at that point. So we moved to San Diego and I was going to school at Grossmont. And the head coach there knew me, knew my reputation. He goes, why don't you just walk on?

Like, come back and do this. And I was like, okay, but the girls are younger and I'm older. Like, I don't know how that'll be. And he's like, just come try. And then we went to state. We won. It was incredible. And then he was like, look, the women's league is up in Italy.

Like, you're Italian. Let's get you there and play. and he had the connections there so I started training and then she came to me about the diva search. My first sexual audition when I went

I was by myself and they're like, what's something special about you? And I said, I have a twin sister and they were like, what? And I'm like,

an identical twin. And they're like, you have to bring her. And so I convinced her and I don't forget it was at the four seasons in Marina del Rey and her and I'm like,

we're going to fight and all this. She literally came to me and goes, we're going to go wrestle some girls. No. This is what I'm thinking.

Where did your confidence come from that you were going to, like, do this thing? I don't know. Maybe being like, like my dad. My dad would make us like, yes, Scorpio. Like you're athletic, though. You're also very athletic. And we've been tomboy's our whole life. Like, and we are little fighters.

Like we stuck up for ourselves. We didn't like the seniors initiate us when we were freshman in high school. We stood our ground. And our dad raised us very much that way. Like tough. Very tough. So you were like, come. I need a side pet.

Yeah. And so we had pony towels. And we had our. kicks on like athletic clothes so we show up and we like see this line what looks like go go dancers and we're like I literally looked there and I go what did you get me into and I'm like this can't be it and sure enough it was and it was really crazy because I was like gosh I you know you say female wrestlers and I was thinking different so what did you have to do dance no they like like a best body contest like you have to get in bikinis so I remember we had to bring stuff back

the next day they like kind of pulled this thing and they're like so you need to have a sexy outfit you need to have a bikini. And even when you see us in our... You came with like soft. You came with like... No. We got shirts made. Mine said breezy for shezy.

Her said Nicole for show. Yeah. And on our butt it said the Garcia twins. No. And we have bandanas on. We were like, let's go. Wait, how old were you at the time? 29.

21? 20. Oh, yeah. And you were living in California at that point? Yes. By yourselves. Or did the family come? No, by ourselves.

And so no one knew. We didn't tell them we were going to this. We didn't tell anyone. Wait, were you trying. But you were you trying. But you. Both were in entertainment, too. So, like, were you, like, I'm going soccer pro, or do I want to, like, be in Hollywood?

Right. And so I always loved entertainment. Like, since we've been super young, we are very drawn to old Hollywood. Watch all the old Hollywood films, and we were big, like, I love Lucy fans. And all that. Nick and Night was, like, our jam. Like, that was our thing. And so Bree and I were very drawn to all that.

And Dynasty. Yeah. We would sneak and watch Dynasty. Yeah, we went because we weren't allowed to. But so when she showed me wrestling, I was like, oh, my God, how cool is this? Like, they get to be characters, but they kick ass. And it was kind of both of my worlds that I loved, like, together. So I was like, this seems like my new chapter, like what I would like to do next.

So when we got there, I just wasn't thinking of, I was thinking characters, but I was not thinking of the sexiness part of it, just the best body part, which I felt like at that point, it was hard for me at first to think of that was sports. And so even when you look at us in our bikini shots compared to everyone else, like playing, you'll make up on. and very like our hairs up and point tails and everyone's like decked out to the night. Yeah. Which was cool.

Yeah. A lot of jewelry all this. Because it's interesting, Nikki, because you were saying earlier that being a mom and stuff, you miss like the sexy. Yeah. So did the sexy Nikki come out with WWE? You know, for me, I always like had it there. Like I would actually always get in trouble when I was younger for wearing spaghetti straps.

Like the principal always had me in their office handing me T-shirts. And I think I was just a very sexy tomboy. but I think I was just very confident. Like I didn't care like, oh, I need to, you know, bleach my mustache and, like, people don't like it. I never cared about things. Isn't it funny that we used to bleach it? Why weren't we removing it?

I told my mom, on my tan skin, and I then get a white mustache. I'm like, this show the other day, because my mom told my sister, like, bleach it. And I was like, wow, we used to bleach it. Yeah. We're like, we, why wouldn't we remove it? Why weren't, yeah, and do the, like, permanent. And I know then they didn't have anything for, like, darker skin. But, like, that's what I told mom at least, like, get us to waxing person every week.

Oh, mom then would take us sometimes to the nail salons to get, like, our eyebrows, everything done. And we come out with rashes and, like, different-shaped eyebrows. I was like, this stuff is not working for me. Forget the first time she had me go do a bikini wax because we were going to pool party. And, I mean, I'm not going. I have pubic hair in fourth grade. So, like. What, you're saying you're hairy, both of you.

Yeah, Mexican Italian. You know, it's weird. We're hairy in certain spots. Yeah. Some spots, we wouldn't grow any hair. Yeah. And then some spots, it's like, that's where the hair went. which is true. But what were we in high school? I think I got my first bikini wax. Maybe it was

eighth grade or high school. And never again. It was torture. It was torture. When she pulled the tweezers out after waxing. Oh my God. I was like, what am I doing? Well, you would be good candidates for like a laser. Which we love. We use laser away. Like it's the best. Like it's your job. Yeah. Well, I wanted to ask you also because you're turning 40 in November. Yeah. Which like, oh my God. You both look amazing. Oh, thank you. And also you hear about 40 today. It seems to be the all the rage. All the rage. Everyone's I feel like it gets better. Yes. We were even

with Kelly Rippa yesterday. We're at Live with Kelly and she told us that like the 40s were her, it's been her favorite decade ever. And my mom and her friends, but like I get it. I think as women, we're so comfortable with who we are that we just like voice stuff. Breed and I have been that way for a while. So we've always used our voices and like. You just don't give a shit when you turn 40.

Like whatever. I start to get that feeling like you don't give a shit. You start to think like, you know what, with my group, like, if you're not in it for like the things I like, bye, I'm going to be selfish at times or I'm going to do the things I want or I don't know. And I think maybe for some people too, our kids aren't older, but I think maybe for others, I don't know what it is, but I'm excited for it. Yeah. And I think, too, it's like you hustled so much in your 20s and your 30s. And I feel like you spent all your 20s making mistakes and learning. then you spend your 30s like kind of figuring out exactly where you fit in and who you are and

you end up knowing who you are. Yeah. So if like 40s, it's like you actually get to start living without thinking. Yeah. And a part of me like I look in the mirror and I'm like, I want to be a beautiful 40 year old. I don't want to be like a 40 year old trying to be 25. Like I'm over those days. Yeah. I don't need to look like a 25 year old or even a 35. Right. I want to be like a beautiful 40 year. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. It's a different feeling. It is true. Even when I'm 35, so like A little younger. Sorry. No, I'm just going.

35 was a good year. It was a good year. Yeah? Okay. Well, even when I turned 30 and then it was like turning 30, I always said like what you're saying about 40 and I feel like that's probably just gets even maximized every year. Like you know yourself better. You listen to yourself more. You do what you want to do.

Yeah. You don't think as much about other people. Like, so it just, it's, I always say like aging is good guys. It's great. Like look at all these beautiful women out there killing it, you know? And I feel like the, do you feel like the media too, like is more embracing for women getting older today? Yeah. Like I love and just like that.

Like I love what they're doing and like the messaging of like aging. Like life isn't over. Like and guess what? The time is still ticking lives going on. So if you want to waste it living in the past and your youth, like go have fun. But there's so much life to live. And I'm so happy people are finally embracing like wrinkles and aging. Because I always used to hate like with men.

They'll be like, look at how great he's aging. I know. Look at him. And it's still hard. It's so embedded in us that I still do it. I'll be like, Steve Carell is aging like fine wine. It's like, how are we always saying that about dudes? Totally.

My mom just sent us a screenshot of the doctor from Gray's Anatomy. What's his name? Which one? Oh, yeah. I see I posted him. Patrick Dempsey. He does look great though. He does.

My mom like sent us as he goes, how amazing is he aging? I'm like, yeah, but where are the other women? We're the women. Well, J-Logue went stuff. I'm always like... And they're facing in a group text. J-Lo, Gwen Stefani. I mean, Cher.

Yeah. I mean, there's so many. There's so many. Sharon Stone. Yeah. Diane Kehan. Let's just name women that are... Women, right?

It's so true. But you know what it is? It's when you see them with their white hair or the salt and pepper. Yeah. You think to yourself like, oh, I wouldn't know what that'd be like on a woman, I guess. And so we see it on men and we're like, oh, he looks great at his age. I don't know. And then we see a woman with like gray hair or white hair and we're like, why isn't she

dying it. Right. Right. So I think we still have to get over that. We have to get over that hum. We do. For sure. I really cannot fathom that we are in October. Ladies and gentlemen, but mostly ladies, but 96% ladies. I cannot fathom we are in October, but you know what October means? October means Halloween. I know. Wrap your mind, wrap your brain around that fact. I admittedly, I'm not a Halloween person, but you know what? I had a baby. I can't believe it's a been one year since Noah fell in love with the holiday with Halloween and is so obsessed about everything. Like I might need to decorate my whole house. Like I might need to really, really do something crazy for him this year because he loves Halloween so much. And you know who

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And I remember it was like exciting. I was like, oh my God. I think I was August 5th. What about you? August 1st. First and then July 31st. Yeah. So right around the corner. It was a fun week. I feel like a lot of people kind of gave birth, and I remember shouting you both out too, saying like, oh, it's so excited and they gave birth the same time. So how is having two, three-year-old boys? Oh, the best.

It's the best, but it's a lot of work. I mean, the boy energy is outrageous, but I don't know if because I've always been kind of needy for love my entire life. And you're getting it. I'm getting it. I know. And I'm obsessed with it. Like, it is, I feel bad at times for Arta and my husband because, like,

Mateo truly is like the only love I ever need it. Yeah, it's like. I don't need you anymore. Yeah. For sure. Well, for sex, for sure, because I love his orgasms. But other than that... You love his orgasms?

I mean, I love the orgasms. And I like his orgasms, too. I like him both because then I know I pleased him. So, yeah, I like both orgasms. But the love that Mateo gives me, it... I just have never felt, like, so fulfilled. Like, you know, and they always say, like, work on filling your cup. Like, you know, and your therapist will tell you that?

He just does it. It's fall. Yeah. He kisses me, loves me, says mommy, and it just feels right. I know. Well, I think too, being a mom, it's exhausting. I think at times we search for so much purpose in life. And I think when you become a mother, it's that natural purpose you feel. Like, you're kind of like, fuck it.

I can, like, get fired from a job or whatever. But, like, every morning I wake up and I'm a mother to these kids. And, like, I just feel like every morning I wake up and I have no idea what they're going to throw at me. It's always, like, unexpected. Who's going to have a good day? Who's going to have a bad day? But I feel like I always have something to do every day.

Yeah. Like, these aren't boring when you're wrong. Yeah. And they keep you, like, focused. and focusing on things that matter. Like, what matter? Right, totally. And, like, when your kids, like, you see the growth in them when they're just learning,

you're like, wow. Like, it's, I don't know, you kind of pat yourself on the back. You're like, I'm doing that. And I feel like because we're in a way older moms, but I think it's so worth waiting for because I've lived the life. Like, we've been around the world. We've partied. We've done all the things and had fun.

So I don't ever feel like I'm missing out. Yeah. I really cherish every moment. Right. You're not having FOMO now. I don't ever have phoma. Zero phoma. That's such a good point, though, in waiting.

Yeah, I look at people and I'm like, ooh, like that's... Right. If you're 25 and having a kid, great. But you might be like, oh, my friends are growing out where I'm like, great, I have an excuse. By the way, I wanted to have a baby to have an excuse not to go out. Yes, right. Which is a great one. No one can say anything to you.

So true. Sorry, you can't get a sitter. I can't. Sorry. By the way, because Brie was a mom, you know, she had Bertie six. Yeah. So were you like when she had her, did you have kind of, not FOMO, but did you feel like she was kind of abandoning you or how did you feel back then?

Well, you know, it was what I feel bad and Brie was amazing at, I think maybe because she had Bertie a little younger, well, I mean. Little, it was 33, but it feels like now younger. When you were a baby, when you were a child mom. I just, we were in the thick of Total Davis and Total Bellas. So I'm like, come on, Bree. to keep up. And she did with Bird. But I guess Birdie, what was amazing and Birdie was such a great baby. Bertie just did everything with Brie and I. So we became Three's company and I loved it.

Bertie gave me love that was like so amazing. She was so good to me. And like it then started to make me really want to be a mom. And at that point in my life, I was about to give that up and, you know, make the decision that I'm fine without it. But the love Bertie gave me and the bond Bertie and I had. You wanted it. I go, I have to have this. And Brie would tell me, she goes, what you have with Bertie is so strong? And she was, so I can't even explain to you what it is with your own child. And I go, nothing gets greater than this. Yeah.

It can't because Bird and I were peas in a pod and we still are. But now I get it. I know. It's crazy. You just can't explain it. Wait, so, Brie, how did it happen? Because with you, you met Artem and you said you wanted a baby and he was on the same page. Yeah.

And then, so how did it happen that both of you had baby at the same time? Oh. Zero idea. By the way, don't you lie to me, zero idea. Both were accidents. Like, I had no idea I was pregnant. They, you tried for how long? And then you tried, we tried almost a year.

And then I couldn't get pregnant. And then Brian and I kind of were like, you know what? We're really good with one kid. Like, we, it's easy in our lives. We both have crazy schedules. And we're like, that's probably where we're not pregnant. But we thought that was a sign. Like you left it up to the gods.

Yeah. And he and I were just like, that was it. We, like, were set with one kid. And I do remember the night that I do think it happened. So. Oh, what having that night? Well, just in Sedona, I think we didn't care. And I think I wasn't ovulating. At least I thought I wasn't. Yeah.

So I was kind of just like, we were like, whatever. We weren't safe. Yeah. You know, he didn't pull out. Yeah. So, which I was like, I love how Nikki's like, orgasms and you're like. Yeah, trying to be like. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm like trying to think of the scientific way to say. Pull out. I'm sure that's what the scientist said. Yeah. I mean, it would be some big word I wouldn't be able to pronounce. Yeah. But I remember when she got engaged, I was feeling a little off and I was super bitchy. I know you want to say it. Oh, she wasn't happy for you? No, not happy for I I could not stop being grumpy on the strip. Like my body was going through something. And I couldn't tell was I dehydrated. My mom and I were talking shit behind her back. We're like,

what is her problem? She was so bitchy about every little thing. And I could tell I wasn't feeling good. But I just couldn't tell if it was like time change. I don't know. I got on the plane back to America. And I just remember I sat down and I looked at mom and go, oh, this plane sounds like shit and my mom goes and I go wet she goes the grumpiness now things smell bad and I go I go mom am I pregnant and she goes and I was like no way I was like trying to think and I so when I went back home took a test and sure enough were you happy I was really happy she was super I was it's what I wanted yeah and it just and I felt like I had to accept that I just maybe couldn't get pregnant again so that just felt like a miracle so did you try other ways or that whole year

you were just trying, you didn't get into like, I saw like so many of my friends go through that journey and I was like, oh gosh. You were kind of like if it's not happening this way. But so then did you conceive after her? No. So what was crazy is right before we went to France and it's even on total bellas, divas or bellas. I can't remember. I literally go to the doctor and she tells me that I have PCOS and she goes, do you know you have no estrogen in your body? And I'm like, the cameras are rolling. I'm like, I don't. And I'm like, oh my gosh. She goes, so we need a book, but you need to freeze your eggs because you're not going to be able to get pregnant on your own. And I'm like, I'm not. And I'm like, oh my gosh, this is so crazy. So we go to France and like, I'm like,

well, I guess I can't get pregnant on my own. So I'm like, Ardum, like twice, not protected. I won't use Bree's term. But like, what were you going through though then when you were told that you can't? Did you accept? What was it? It was something I felt hormonal or why did I go get checked? Well, and I think, too, you're like, you know what? After I get engaged, just freeze my eggs. like you were going to go through that whole process. Yeah, but, well, no, I didn't know I was getting engaged. No, I mean, you're right. Oh, he proposed on the trip that you were on the trip.

Yeah. So it was like right before I went on this trip. And Artem and I had only been dating 11 months, but something I felt off. So I went and got testing done and all this stuff came out like, you know, all these things. Because remember I was feeling not well. Yeah. And I'm like, oh my gosh, I have PCOS. Like this makes a lot of sense and whatever, whatever.

And then we go on this trip. We have wild sex. He proposes. I come back. Bree tells me she's pregnant. I'm like, oh my gosh, I must be filling your symptoms because I'm feeling so nauseous and like all these things. She thought it was just like twin sympathy. So I'm thinking it's twin stuff.

And then it got worse like two days later. Was it just two days? Was it? Yeah. Because I was in hot yoga and I'm like, I'm about to vomit everywhere. And I'm like, I didn't even drink. I'm like, do I still have a hangover from France? Like I'm just thinking of all these things of why I.

feel so shitty. Yeah. So I'm driving home and I remember thinking like, I mean, I can't be pregnant. They told me I have no estrogen in my body. I have to freeze my eggs. I'm like, there's no way, but I do know that I just let, you know, my now fiancee, like we had, you know, two nights. Right. I'm not pull out twice. And I'm like, but so I go get a test and it says positive. I'm by myself. I had to take another one. It says positive again. So I'm like, oh my gosh, who did I tell first? Breyer Arnhem. I did do it. I did do. Ardom. You did. Even though I was about to go to her first. But I told Ardham and I'm happy you didn't because Ardham would never have let you. No. And but I, my like everything dropped just because Ardum and I were

still so fresh. And I just was thinking of what the world was. And I shouldn't have thought that, but my immediate thought because everyone was already so hard on me at that time. They were. Because I had what been broken up in my serious relationship at that point. Was it a year and a half, two years? Yeah. A year and a half, two years. So all of that kind of happened fast. Oh, you mean to be engaged? People would think that that's fast. And then now pregnant?

And then now, and they would probably think that he proposed because you're pregnant. Exactly. Like, all this was going through my head. And I'm like, just remember sitting up. Before you get excited about the baby. I remember just sitting on the toilet, like, just feeling like wet. I just so many emotions. But also happy, but it more of like what, like, I almost felt protected.

I was very shocked. Yeah. I just couldn't. believe it because then and then I was like what did that test say like that doctor what the heck how do you tell someone but anyways that's a whole other thing so then I tell her and then she was like could not believe it were you happy there was so much going on in her life at the time that I think I was like her my first reaction was like fuck like why what was going on though I just think there was she had to deal with so many headlines and then she just

dealt with so much uncertainty. She knew everything was moving fast and that was scaring her. Look, and I think we're actually seeing this with Joe Jonas and Sophie. Yeah. Is the woman always gets painted as the villain. Yeah. It's just, they walk outside and they smile.

They painted you as the villain then? I just, everything was so negative with me. Really? And then dating Ardom, I think it was how long after? I can't remember. It was a while. It was like a year. Hold up.

Let me tell you. Okay. So you did Dancing with the Stars in 2017 with Arden. And then everyone was shocked when you, when he split with John. Yeah. But you only got with Artem in 2018. Yes. And he split with John in 2017. Yeah.

So, because I remember I didn't see Arnhem for like a year. He was doing his tour, spring season. They were doing like a junior season. Like, that guy was always busy. And you, just to clarify, you were going to marry John. Yeah. But then he didn't, he was going to have kids because he wanted kids, but he didn't really want kids. That takes a lot of strength, too.

Like, the easiest thing is a breakup with someone that you don't love. You don't like. But you had to break off something that the public and everything like that. That takes a lot of strength. Yeah. Thank you. And it made it so why Brie wasn't, like, the happiest when that happened is she knew. Like, I struggled for a few years with that decision.

Like, was that right? Like, I still care about this person. I didn't feel like she was fully healed. Yeah. And I was like, like, you've got to take time to heal. instead of just like, ooh, this is all happening fast. And Arden and I had amazing communication. I got to be honest with him about everything. And that was the best feeling ever. And then someone who actually was there for me and understood. Like the whole time he was always like, the first time

we had talked since Dancing with the Stars was my breakup. And he had reached out to me, seeing all the headlines. He goes, hey, I just want to know, are you okay? And then I was like, oh my gosh. Like, hey, yeah. Is that how you got together from that text? That's how we started talking again from that text. did people think that there was there was overlap yes that's why i was so protective of artem for so long because then you didn't want people to think that he did anything like an affair she left him for him yeah the whole thing because it was so untrue and i also told ardom i go i don't even want you to have what that credit like that's because that was nothing of it like no offense

it wasn't you yeah like i and it's funny how people will take like your empowerment or your strength and your bravery and automatically like throw it on like someone else yeah like no this was all me for me and what i felt and i did the work and but yeah i just i was so protective of him in the beginning because then that's what started to come so when i had my when i got pregnant i just knew like great my dancing with stars partner who was like two years ago i just got engaged and i'm having his baby what is this going to say what did people know at that point what did the world we were dating dating. So did you announce the engagement and then wait and then the pregnancy? Yeah. Did you? Yeah. I feel like, yeah, you announced the engagement and pregnancy together. Yeah. And I, oh, the pregnancy and

engagement together? No. No. Was it? Separate. I literally announced the engagement. I got in trouble for it because I was supposed to wait. Remember for the e-show? Oh, yeah. But I didn't want anyone to know yet. I was pregnant. And it was New Year's Eve. I just posted the photo from France. I just dropped it. I feel bad. I didn't tell P. I didn't tell anyone. I didn't tell anyone. I just dropped it knowing, like, I can't deal with the double. I just got to let this be out first. I have the flu right now. I'm just going to now turn my phone off and I'm going to just be out of commission

14 days and let the world talk and save my mental health. Did you feel like you had to tell your ex about it first before you posted? I told him about my engagement and my pregnancy. He was the first after her and my mom, John was like my next. I wanted him to know just before anything. And was he cool with it? Yeah. And was Artem cool that you felt the need to call him?

Yeah. Really? He actually, he understood it. Like he, that's cool of him. Because I totally get it. Like,

do what you have to do. And I'm like, not a lot of guys would be like that. No. That's really. They actually, yeah, they,

for long, he was so supportive. So supportive. Like, he's amazing. You found your fairy tale, like the love of your life. Yeah.

A baby. and it all happened so fast. Sometimes things like happen like that. Honestly, like I believe in all that stuff. And I believe that sometimes God brings people into your life. And when I look back at Artem and I had incredible chemistry and everyone would talk about it. I sometimes feel like God put me on that path. Because even Artem said he goes, I don't think I was supposed to get you. Like he was, I was so shocked when you were the person I was supposed to get. Because at that time, I just got the people who were maybe they knew were going to be kicked off week one or week two or week three. Like he wasn't like one of the top.

He wasn't supposed to pair up. And I was supposed to do it like a year before. Like when I broke my neck and I was coming back, I was actually supposed to do it with Derek. And then I bailed last minute because an opportunity to come up to wrestle at SummerSlam. And I was like, I'm going back in the ring. And so I went and did it instead of dancing that season. So when I look at how it all worked, it is crazy what I believe in is like my angels and God. And they put him in my life for a reason.

and they put me on this path and I'm exactly where I meant to be because I feel it I'm so happy. I'm so happy for you. Do you guys double date like Daniel and Artem? Do they vibe?

They do. Especially now that Ardom's like real into working out and eating clean. I feel like, yeah. Wait, which one is a vegan? So my husband. Oh, you're not.

You're not? No, I'm not a vegan. She was for a long time. Yeah. I literally for a long time I went vegan, vegetarian, pescatarian. And now I'll like eat some chicken and turkey.

Yeah. That's as far as I go in the meat world. But my husband, he'll bring in some fish at times. But he tries to strictly be vegan now. But now they, I feel like they just are like. They started vibing. Finally. I mean, and they always got along, but their schedules are just so different.

And I. And then it's funny when one talks about wrestling, one talks about ballroom dancing. Yeah, like that's, actually, that's like the opposite on the freaking spectrum. Like in our relationship, I'm the fighter. He's the lover. Like, it's, yeah. That's crazy. Yeah.

Do you ever get the itch, though, like to wrestle again or get back in the ring? For sure. Yeah. Every day. Especially because, you know, my husband's at AW now. But I'm still surrounded a lot by wrestling because he and I, we talk about it all the time. He's fully in it. And, you know, he just had an incredible match this Sunday at their big pay-per-view all out.

And I just, you know, I watch everything. And I, when I see the women wrestling on it, I always am like, you get fired up. I know. Wait, is AW, like, more hardcore than W? Oh, my gosh. Yeah. They have less rules, I would say. There are a lot of bleed and hit each other with certain objects.

Would you do a more hardcore thing? I would. I for sure would. I definitely have it in me. But I feel like it's not over for you guys. I don't know why. I feel like. We want one last run.

Yeah? I mean, we, especially, like, when our sons are a little older and they could sit and watch mommy, like their mommy's kick ass. And if my surgeon allows me to. Because of her neck. Because you're not our boobs. Now your boobs, that's a good clarification. I don't care.

I'll pop those. But you both have boobs. I'm confused now. I just got these. Oh. December. Shush. Yeah.

Okay. Because I was told that you have the boobs and I was like, they both have boobs. Yeah. I don't understand. No, we both. I finally did it. And I thought you might have boobs to differentiate. No, I was, it was like, what, 28?

And I felt like the girls just left me one day. And I was like, you know what? And this is when I took 11 months off of W. WWE the first time, I was like, I'm going to go get some boobs. And then I felt love. Like, did you not want them then? Were you like? I didn't. Up until about a year ago, I never felt the desire. And then I kind of just was like, you know, I'm like certain outfits. You always hated the way it looked. Yeah. I really just started like, started getting flatter and flatter. And just like, I'm like, you know what? Like, what am I? Let's just do this. I will say I can't. She loves them as you can see. Yeah. I canceled my appointment though, two or three times. They sue you. Yeah. They do. Thank you. But I did cancel my appointment a couple of times because I would get anxiety. I'm like, no, I'm not supposed to do it. Yeah. Yeah. And then, but it's been the best thing.

And you did it after baby. Yeah. I did it December. That's a good, good time to do it. Yeah. I probably with a wild boy, maybe should have waited. Yeah. Oh, gosh. One gets punctured. He like, I mean. He knew I like was bandaged up and thought, like, I'm going to jump on mommy. Oh, my God. I had to get mine redone because they were like 11 years in. 11 or 12, right? So we did. So we did. the day apart. My mom was like, of course, right? And Mateo like jumped straight on it and then it busted because I did a lift too. And I went smaller. I'm a little bummed. I went smaller. I thought it was going to be like great. But I missed my big old ones. Yeah? Yeah. Well, you wanted to be more chic. I did. That's what I said. I go, I want things to feel better. But I kind of miss the girls. But I got a crazy infection because when he jumped on me, the bottom part like kind of split. Oh my God.

I have, like, a hole in my boob. And they had to go Christmas Eve. Well, I'm sitting on the couch, and all of a sudden, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I don't feel good. And then I'm like, what? I go, I'm burning up. All of a sudden, I got hit 104 degree fever within minutes. And it's because of Mateo jumping on your boob? It, like, kind of, like, started to, like, yeah.

Because it was, like, 24 hours outside of surgery. I have, like, cat reflex. So I, like, chucked the pillow, like, in the air. At the same time, he was flying. I'm like, like, threw him off. I was like, you need, like, you need to, a rehabilitation. consultation center away from the kids after her and I both said that we're like what were you thinking i know no legit and i was like picking him up because i was like i can't let him be affected because

i got new boobs and how do you do they ask they don't notice oh my my daughter oh your daughter yeah yeah because we still will shower together and stuff yeah she was like well she asked me she goes are you breastfeeding no and i go no i'm not breastfeeding she's like well your boobs are big and And I was like, well, Mommy did some stuff to make them bigger, you know, to lift them. Yeah. But she didn't, I didn't say an implant or anything. Yeah. She thought it was like back breastfeeding.

But so now that Garcia twins, even though they might wrestle down the line, right now you're doing so much hosting and so much cool shit. Let's talk about this show coming up, twin love. Oh, yeah. They were hosting together. What a wild concept. Yes. So correct me if I'm wrong. Sets of twins.

They separate them. They go into separate houses. and they bring other sets of twins. So it's like to see if a twin will fall in love with the same twin as their twin and the other house. So it's a Brie and Nikki house. Oh, they're called Brie and Nikki.

Yeah. So we have our own houses. And what was though amazing is when they would walk up together and they're like fired up that they're going to do this whole dating thing together, right? So they don't even know they're going to be separated. Oh. So Brie and I are chatting with them. We're getting them fired up.

And then we're like, well, so we have some news. And then we laid on them that, you know, this twin's going to my. house this one's going in and they all would burst into tears even to see all the men would get look it gives me the chills because we we know it like it's hard to do things alone when you're an identical twin and spent your life together it's hard to go do things alone at times and so they would be so upset but that was like part of the experiment but then when I loved is the ones that made it to the end we put them all back into one house to be like oh now you found love let's see if your twin likes it wow right And I feel like, too, the one thing that I really, gosh, felt from all of them is they're all like, they're all people who just are doing well in life. They have their head on straight.

It was a great cast. But because they're so close with their twin, their relationships never work out because they have this built and best friend, this soulmate already. So their relationship have failed because their other person was like, you're too close with your twin. Like, I feel like you don't give me enough time. And you've experienced that in your life too. Yeah. So these twins wanted to come to date other twins so they could date. people who understood the twin relationship, which was actually really cute to see in a way because they all felt refreshed. They're like, wow, like you, you'll love the fact that our twins will always be together and like we can go on double dates and weird shit. We've got to have a next venture for you guys, ready? Yes. A twin only dating up. Oh, yes. Yes. So Scott. Wait, so is it, was it also to see if, I mean, there's so many elements at play, but was it also to see if the twin will fall in love with the twin.

Yes. And there's some weird stuff. I can't even explain. It's so exciting. Like, wait, when does this come out? Does it have a date?

It'll be later this year. That's really exciting. Yes. And that's the experiment part to see do twins fall for the same? That was so fun to watch. Oh my gosh. Because they all were twins, there's a lot of confidence,

which I really loved. Like, people said what they felt. Yeah. But then it was crazy the ones that were confident when we were confident when we were interviewing them and then we separated and they go in the house of themselves how much they got quiet or are you guys the same way or like when you do because you've been doing stuff on your own a little bit yeah we're not no no we're very and we did sometimes wrestling by ourselves and like when i went to go do the real dirty dancing it was actually fun to do

something on my own you know what i mean like when and barmageddon it's like fun when we do it stuff on our own blake shelton and carson daily are so amazing to work with Like, they're truly the greatest bromance ever. And seeing even Blake and Gwen, they're so damn cute. I was going to ask, and Gwen's, like, a dream. A dream. I mean, she was, she's just such an icon. I mean, all of us probably were obsessed with her, right, growing up.

And so getting to be with her, she's just so cool and down to earth. Yeah. And so hot. And are you happy for each other? Like, when you get a gig, you get, do you ever go for the same things? What did we? I don't think we have. Yeah.

Probably your teams, like, wouldn't do that. Right. Yeah. I feel like now what's great is if we're not working together, we really embrace where we're different and the things we enjoy because we are very different. And so I feel like you'll really start to see us do things that are more who we are individually.

Wait, speaking of dating twins, did you ever date twins? Yes. Well, kind of, yeah, huh? You did. Well, I dated a twin and then she started making out with the brother. And I was like, wait a second. Wait, we can't be the weird twins that are all married now. So do you think that's weird a little bit then?

It was weird for me because they were identical. They are still identical. That is that... They're crazy identical. They were such gorgeous soccer players growing up. So I always had a crush on Andrew the goalie. And Brie knew that. And then when we got into college, she started dating the twin.

But then I finally had my opportunity to make out what the guy had a crush on was younger. So like, am I going to say no to that? No. So, and then he and I would chat and stuff. And then it just nothing worked out. We were just in such different places in our life. He was playing pro soccer. Was I in the WDB at that time?

I think in the beginning years. Oh, maybe. I don't know. Did you ever play tricks on like boyfriends? So not boyfriends, but definitely like guys that we'd meet for sure. Yeah? Like we had fun. We broke up with boyfriends like a middle school.

Oh, yeah. Oh, you do it for her and you do it for her. Oh, that's cute. So just a couple things before you go, just to see how different you are. Oh, my God. I had so much to talk to you guys about. Look how many are going. I know, but it's almost an hour.

What can I do? I love it. Okay, first of all, and you have your wine, Bonita. Yeah, Bonita Bonita. Bonita, which is also, like, Latin. Yeah. Latin vibes. And you're living in Napa, so you're committed to this, like, wine lifestyle. Oh, yeah.

Oh, I mean, we live it, like, hands on. We just signed a lease on a new tasting room. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's a speakeasy vibes. It's a speakeasy room. Wine was always a passion. I mean, one, we drink a shitload of it and have since we've been young as 21.

No. But, like, you're literally the girls. When I would shoulder tap, like, Like 7.11? Do people know? Do you need to explain with shoulder tapiness? Oh, sorry. So back in the day, we called it shoulder tap. But before someone walked into 7.11 or circle, okay, you would tap them on the shoulder. I'm like, hey, can you go buy me some alcohol and give you like $20 tip? Yeah. Yeah. So I would get, I would always ask for like two buck checks. Like, hey, that $2.2 bottle. That was so hard to say. Charles Schwab. Yeah. Can I get that. So I would bring that to the parties, like the college parties. And

everyone would be drinking beer and they'd be like, ew, like you're drinking red wine. You drink like cheap wine. Cheap. I remember when I started making money in WWE, and it wasn't a lot, but I bought my first bottle of le crema and it was like $25. And I'm like, Bree, I just bought a $25 bottle of wine. And we were like celebrated. So excited.

I got a wine fridge at Target. I would put my le cremas in there. We get crema and a wrap. Yeah. But so we always appreciate wine. And we come from a farming family. We grew up farmer girls. Our family just did produce and not grapes.

So when we started to visit wine country, And, like, learn about harvest and crush and all the in between. We're like, this is the coolest thing ever. Two quick, Merry Fuck Hills before you go. So we can see if you're a twin hood, like, with tasting guys, you know? Yeah. Were you usually the same or no? No.

Okay. Like, never. Yeah. Okay. So the first one is Broad Pitt, Joe Jonas, because, like, he's in that line. I know we're, we're killing. And Machineka and Kelly. Oh.

So I would fuck Broad Pitt for sure. Are you sure? You could fuck him for life if you marry him. Oh, wait, actually, I would, what is it? Fuck Mary Kill. So I'd fuck Machine Gun Kelly. Okay, smart. Mary Brad Pitt, kill Joe Jonas.

I actually feel like I'd be the same. Yeah. I feel bad for Joe, but like nothing. Yeah. You feel bad for Joe? No, I don't feel bad for him, but I feel bad that I don't want to fuck him. Oh, no, yeah. Don't feel bad for that.

Yeah, we don't feel bad for that. Now that I want to kill him. He seems like a nice guy, but, you know. Not as a late. I don't know. Machine Gun, Kelly. I don't know if I really want to fuck him. Well, no, Nikki, I'm glad you said that because I feel the same way, like, with what's happening.

Okay. Austin Butler, Jacob Allorty, Ryan Reynolds. And not, I don't know. Maybe it was in the back of my mind. Who's Jacob? Jacob Allorty, you guys? Dead. Oh, no. No. From Victoria, the tall Australian guy.

Oh, I think I'll show you. Yeah, show me a picture. And then you can decide. Okay. Okay, ready? I want to fuck them all. Yeah. Who was the first? I mean, Ryan Reynolds.

Wait, do you know who Austin Butler is? Oh, yeah. Elvis. I already know who my thing would be. Okay, this is not him with a mustache. I would fuck Austin, Mary Ryan, and then probably kill this guy because I don't know him. That's true. So you see him.

This guy. Yeah. And I mean, he seems so great. He's so handsome. But I would really like to fuck Austin. And if he could do the whole Elvis thing. He's in it still big. He hasn't loved it anyway.

So I'd be like, yeah. Okay. So fuck Austin, kill Jacob. And Mary Ryan, for sure. I'm the same. Oh, guys. same. Well, thank you so much for coming on. We're both, like, just so great together and separately.

Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. I mean, so are all twins. Yeah. Yay. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast so you don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcast and write a little review.

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