Not Skinny But Not Fat - The Matchlor w/ Bekah Martinez

Episode Date: January 26, 2021

Bekah Martinez, or Bekah M as you may remember from Arie Luyendyk's season of The Bachelor, joins me to discuss all  things Matt James' season- including controversial contestant Sarah Trott, the hilarious Victoria Larson, and what we think of Matt as the bachelor and the season so far. The mom of 2 also shares her experience on Arie's season- was Arie a good kisser? How she dealt with being labeled as the "too young to be there/ not ready for an engagement" one ? Spoiler alert- she had her first baby shortly after the show. Huzzah: Go to drinkhuzzah.com and use code NOTSKINNY for 20% off Woo: Use code NOTSKINNY for 20% at Woo on woomoreplay.com Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is not skinny but not fat, and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps, and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is not skinny but not fat. that you guys i was snoozing on the bachelor the first two episodes i was sleeping i was sleeping and i was complaining that it was boring and then it was boring a and i was like why are you doing this to me and then episode three brought it so i brought on becca martinez becca m to talk to me about it and i watched your stories today and what you had to say and i was like yes she's feeling the same way as me oh oh oh

I'm glad to hear you are feeling the same way because I I have thoughts, I have feelings, very strong ones about this episode. Okay, I didn't think episode one was boring, by the way. It was, it was, it was all right. I was happy about episode one because I thought I was going to hate Matt going into the season, and now I'm obsessed with him. Obsessed, okay. I really like him. I think he's like a really nice, cool guy. I mean, after the past couple bachelors, I think that I like him.

episode two was like so boring but yeah can i ask you if you hated him because of his association to tyler c or did you hate him individually no i mean i don't i didn't know anything about i hated that i didn't know anything about him at first but then also yeah because he was i was like oh this dude is just here for clout like he's tyler cameron's friend he's been out like partying at these like florida covid parties and it's been like hanging with the Kardashians and like this is totally just, like, for clout. And he's just, I feel like he's just going to be like this duchy, like, I don't know, New York party Instagram boy. I don't know. But he seems like, I like how he seems like really consider it really respectful and like, I don't know. I think he's

a cool guy who like kind of knows what he wants. I feel the same way. I was, I was a Tyler C. Hater, which like most people that follow me know just because I feel like I was played. Yes. on Hannah's season, I was like, he's such a good guy and he's also hot. And then he left and he was like, Gigi, like, and I was like, wait, did you fool all of us into thinking you were this like Patrick Swayze, Paul Newman, perfection? Thank you. I felt bamboozled and I was like very vocal about it. And then his mom died and I fell bad.

And then the quarantine crew happened and my rage rose again. And that's when I was like Matt And I was angry about it But then when I saw Matt's promos for The Bachelor I was like oh my God He has a good personality He's hot I just said hot like Tasia

He's hot I'm hot It's a lot And Oh my God We have so much talk about I told Becca before we started I was like I want to talk to you

About Matt's season I want to talk to you about Claire and Dale Who just broke up The news just broke Shocking everyone Wait wait wait wait It's official

It's official it's official I mean, it's, it's been, it's out now, TMZ, page 6, E. Damn it. I saw the clues, you know, obviously. It seems pretty obvious. But I, I was, I was holding out hope that they were going to, like, get back together, you know? It was just going to be one of, like, they seem like the type that would, like, break up and get back together, like, a bazillion times. Oh, it says that they're, like, on a break or something.

Oh, okay, exactly what I thought. Good. I hope they get back together. I think they're perfect. Stop. Yeah, they're like the same. To me, they're like the same. type of person and I love them together. I want more. I want to know more. You're like the only

person I feel like in the world. So I need to know. Okay. Well, I was pissed about her season because I feel like she got played super hard. Like production fucked with her super hard. Obviously, they made her look like a crazy person. And there was like all this like kind of background stuff about how they were like editing certain things to make it sound like she was, you know, just, I mean, I always say after being on the show, they have 60 hours of footage of you every week. And then they've got to boil all that down to an hour and a half. It is so easy to boil everything down to an hour and a half of her just talking about Dale the whole time. I was just frustrated for her because the whole point was for the audience to hate her. And that's what they wanted, because

they wanted people to be stoked when they switched bachelorette. And I think the whole time they were planning to switch her out with Tasia. And they were trying to hurry her along to get her to engage to some dude and make her look crazy in the process. But she is a little nutty. But I just felt like her season, like she got totally played. They told her that she was going to be the Bachelorette and all along they had plans to get her out of there within a couple weeks. So why would they do that though? Why do you think they would do that though? Before quarantine, which is when Claire first got announced, I think they had full intentions of her being the Bachelorette like normal. I think when quarantine happened all the time passed,

for one, they were only going to get to stay in one location the whole time. So I think that they thought that was boring. They're like, we need something to really shake up the season. So there's that. I also think that with all of the months past since Claire's announcement, I think people kind of like were bored and forgot and I think they needed something to stir up the season so that people would wash since it was like five months later and in one place the whole time. That's my theory. I think originally they did want her to be the Bachelorette, truly. But you're right. Because when I talked about it too, I said,

you guys, the producers hate her. I mean, we could pretty much. They're trying to make all of us hate her. Yeah. Like they hate her because they could have made her seem less crazy, and they chose to, like, make her seem the most crazy ever. Like, the perfect example is, you know, the part where she says something like everyone thought she was calling Dale, her fiancé? Yeah. The actual background story behind that is she was talking about Benoit, and the dudes were talking shit on Benoit, and then she was like, why are they talking about my ex-fiance?

But when you listen to it, you can hear that they muted out the part where she says X. So it makes it sound like she's saying fiancé. Like, that's just one example. But do you think it's just because they want us to like tach her? Do you think they maybe didn't like her? Because I heard some rumors that she was maybe like difficult on like whatever. But like I want to talk about you for two seconds because you were on Ari's season.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go for it. Can we or will your current like partner like? Yeah. No. Oh, no. So my boyfriend and I are rewatching my whole season and we're doing recaps on Patreon right now. So I am fully diving back into my season.

The first time I've watched since it came out. So I want to tell you, I'm like a weirdo when I watch it, and I love seeing the people kiss and, like, how they kiss and if they're sung. And I always like reference, you're and Ari's kisses were like very good kisses. So how are you going to watch that with your boyfriend? We're doing it. I mean, we've been doing it. He's like, why don't you kiss me like that?

But he's a really good story. No, you were French. No, but you guys, you and Ari had like, those kisses on the back, like, okay, Matt aside because he's like, do they, stream of not good like the eyes open like the girls are also not vibing with his kisses or like I don't know what they're doing they're like closing their mouths except what's her name last night in the hot tub oh serena yeah serena and him seemed to be vibing I thought yeah I thought they had more chemistry no him and rachel for instance that was like a bad kiss she seemed like she's like

pulling back she wasn't into it usually the they just went down for their naps right now so I'm like, girl, you got to sleep. Um, they, I know, I just started sleep training. So I was like, that's why I told you. We need to do a mom episode, too. How old is your little one? Five months. Oh, yep.

That's the time. Yeah. Bless your heart. I know. I was so hard. I was literally watching The Bachelor as I was doing like the nap part. And I was like, I am crazy. Like, as I'm watching, whatever.

And then I saw your thing. Because wait, I want to say two seconds. I had a preconceived notion about you. because yesterday we had to cancel the podcast and I was like I didn't want to tell you that I was sleep training because I was like oh my God she gave birth and water she's totally not like the sleep training person

so I'm not gonna even say like this is what I'm doing and then I saw that you posted a thing about because Becca for those she gave birth at home like she literally is like hardcore AF strong AF so I was like she's definitely the like I don't know why I thought those go together do you get what I'm saying? No no you're not the only person I got definitely got comments for people that are like,

this does not fit in with like your beliefs and blah, blah. I'm like, bitch, you do not know me. You know, it's like, I don't know. I think that if there's one thing I've learned from motherhood, it's like you need to do what you got to do to survive. So, you know, whatever that looks like, I used to be way more judgmental before I had kids. And now that I have kids, I'm like, that works for you, you do it.

That doesn't work for you. I get it. You know, but yeah. So we're going to do, I decided, we're going to do a separate mother. thing because I really want to talk you about that, but I do want to say, so I was shocked when I saw that you did sleep train and that you got me messages and that's gross. And I think that just the bachelor people have a more widespread like audience. So you get gross people. Like I feel like I didn't get gross people. And I'm like surprised because I saw what you got. And I was like,

you're obviously you're more out there. So you get like weirdos and like hate. No, straight up. Yeah. Like other bloggers and influence. I see, I see sometimes people posting about, like, the hate that they get. And I'm like, that's nothing. I get people telling me to kill myself, like, every day. That's normal. Still? Totally. Yeah. People are like, you're disgusting. Your children should be taken away from you. Like, blah, blah, blah. I get their house up all the time. It does not bother me anymore. I just wanted to tell you about my favorite seltzer right now, my favorite sparkling water,

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and expert insights to empower you on the road towards authentic wellness. So, are you ready to recover from reality? Becca is Savage A.F. And what's crazy about you is, like, aside from you having really intense kisses with Ari because you did have good physical chemistry. You did. Yes, I definitely did. Yeah. And everyone, the, the stick that you had

with like, by the way, talking about producers, I feel like you got a good, like you always looked amazing. Thank you. You were like cool and spunky and cute and whatever. And you had the good kisses. And then the only thing about you was like, she's only 23. Were you 23?

22. And she's not ready. And then bada boom. you're one of the ones that left. And how long after that did you have your first baby? Oh, my God. She got pregnant with Ruth. I mean, you know, it wasn't planned.

So there's that. I don't know if people could say that as like me being ready, but happened nonetheless. I got pregnant with her. I mean, like right after the show finished airing. I think the show finished airing in like March or beginning of April. And I got pregnant with her in May. That's insane.

So from everyone being like, she's not ready. Wait, who was the biggest, like, hater of you not being ready on the show? You know, I do think that I had a pretty cool relationship with a lot of the girls. I think a lot of that was producer encouraged. Like the producers made a much

bigger deal about it than anyone else did. So they were constantly asking people like, well, Becca's 22. Like, do you think she's ready? Do you think she's ready? That was always being the put in people's ears because I don't think anyone really cared. But I would say, you know, on the show, Tia

like kind of threw me under the bus. She's she's apologized and then like I still regret that now she just messaged me recently actually so you know it's water under the bridge are you cool with everyone from from the season uh you know I would say like cool with generally yes I mean there's definitely some people who probably don't like me that much because I just ran my mouth too much about them but what are you going to do I know I'm blanking now on all your like savagery on Instagram but you always you always had things to say who'd you go hard on I went super hard on Ari and Lauren at the end of the season

more on Ari than Lauren but I went pretty fucking hard for him yeah because I was friends with Becca Are you still? Yeah no I don't care anymore but he was like he kind of recently was like a douche bag to like

Taylor Nolan from The Bachelor and was like making yeah was like making fun of her for advertising for sex stories he like he was like oh like real classy and I'm like dude you fuck like four or five women on reality TV like who are you to say but but can you but their relationship seems pretty like it's one of the good ones no no I can't talk shoot on their relationship I think they're perfect they seem like they're perfect together yeah they're perfect together no no no I don't have anything to save out of Taylor Nolan she's it she's a pretty dicey

character. I mean, whatever. I like her. We've had her on our podcast a couple times. I can understand how she rubs people the wrong way, but you know, she says what she says. She's never really said anything that I think is, I don't know, I get how she gets under people's skin, but yeah, but no, but Ari also shouldn't be talking. I mean, he, he does a bunch of ads, so like who cares what that's what I'm saying. No, she, he was mad because she called him out for something having to be with the election. I don't really know.

then he was like, you're going to talk, say that I can't say this about the election, but you can do this, this ad, classy. I'm like, that has nothing to do with the other. Anyway. Anyway. Enough about that. So, yeah. So, just, I wanted everyone to remember Becca with a short hair, with the pretty face,

with a good tongue kissing with Ari. And that was tongue. Not many people kiss with tongue on the, is it allowed or is it like frowned upon? Yeah, of course, it's allowed. Okay. They probably just don't show it on TV because it is kind of disgusting. to see someone's, like, tongue entered the other person's mouth. But if I was seeing a good, like, I'm down to see a good kiss because I can judge

chemistry. It's hard to judge chemistry when, like, Matt's eyes are open. The girls are pulling away and closing their mouths. And you're like, wait, you're not into this. I don't think Colton was a good kisser either. I mean, they spoke about him that he wasn't. It's so tragic. A lot of people, which, like, also, like, everyone's talking about Matt and he's a dude. And I'm sure he can, like, laugh about it. But everyone's tweeting about it. I'm like, that kind of probably hurts. Like, you don't want. Yeah, I would definitely contemplate, yeah, ending it.

Like Tyler called, like Tyler called him out. Now Mike Johnson called him out. Anyway, so last night's episode. Wait, Mike Johnson called him out. I feel like him and Hannah didn't have good kisses together. Yeah, like Mike, we haven't seen you bring your A gang just yet. So I wouldn't. No, I said on the Patreon, Arias actually, like, probably the best kisser I've ever kissed.

straight up. Stop. Sorry, Gray. It is what it is. What are you going to do? Sorry, Greg. I can't believe he's watching it with you. Is he not a jealous dude?

No, he's really not. We've talked before about where, like, I'm like, I want to get married, but like, I don't know if I want to have sex with you for the rest of my life. Yeah. And so we've talked about that. We're like, oh, maybe one day we'd have an open relationship. He's like, yeah, I don't know. He's, like, possibly open.

into it. He's not that jealous. Because he's like, he's one of those people that can rationalize it and be like, at the end of the day, we're having, we have two kids together and we live together and love each other. So like, what do I care if you liked kissing this dude on the bachelor, you know? Right, right, right. So everyone go watch it because they had good kisses and we haven't seen kisses like that before. So just to remember. Okay, so we want to talk about the episode last night, which was, I mean, everyone hyped it up for me because I watched it today. So it was really good, but it was also like I hadn't. Okay, let's back it up. Sarah. comes in first episode talks about her dad's a ls i'm so into her i'm disgusting i'm duped again i'm

tyler's seat again okay you know what i said you know what i said i said in the first episode i go she has crystal energy to me stop really said that said one i was like there's something something she's hiding something she's hiding that's what i said episode one so you're better than me i was like oh my god she's a broadcast journalist like i did no research i'm like so she has a career um she's not to hear to be an Instagram model. And she's so for real. And then cut to, you know, the pictures with GEZ come out. So we know she's like, loves the spotlight.

She also has been rumored to hang out with the chain smokers. I think she was, um, hooking up with someone from their crew. So she was kind of groupy-ish. Sounds kind of group-y-ish. Totally. Well, you know what? What? I've seen some DMs floating around people saying,

now this is hearsay don't know if this is true or not I'm just saying that people have said not saying it's true that she didn't quit her broadcast journalism job to take care of her dad she quit it in San Diego to move to L.A. to do modeling and

that basically like the community I don't know if this is true or not this is someone I saw someone say the community like in San Diego, their local community helps fundraise for a caretaker

for her dad. Oh, that's part I've been there. So that it's like possibly not true. Well, she lives in LA. That's a thing. With her dad.

Well, yeah, if you live in L.A., how can you be the full-time caretaker for your parent? I posted this TikTok from her TikTok, so this is in hearsay, which grossed me out

the most honestly, which, okay, sorry. I want to say, this. If you're a hustler, you're a hustler, I'm down with it. I'm good with it. Sure. Her TikTok was how I started to model in L.A. And she goes through, she's like, I took professional photos. I contacted small brands. I submitted my headshots to agencies. I signed with an agent. So this is on her TikTok, meaning she's been trying to get into this world of modeling, influencing from before. So we have this TikTok and a bunch of- When was that TikTok from?

I posted it, but I don't know when it's from. But she's definitely, I got a few, I got multiple DMs saying she's living in L.A. She did take care of her dad at one point, but for the past two years, she's been trying to make it as like a model influencer, which we know because she's not hanging out with G.E.Z in San Diego and with the chain smoker. Right. So we know G.E.Z. We know chain smokers. We know trying to be a model. We know not broadcasting because I found a post of hers from 2019, like April, her being like basically saying bye to her career is a. broadcast journalist and saying like, as if she was retiring after 40 years. It was like, it was fun.

I learned a lot. And now I'm going to like be a journalist for myself, like basically once to whatever. So again, appreciate the hustle. Like great. Models are amazing. But it's just like then don't play us. Misrepresent yourself.

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I was Tyler's Seed. So all of this comes out. And then this episode, which was a crystal. You're right, which was a crystal. I know. I roll sitting. Wait, real quick, I have to know, this is so off top of it. But I just need to know real quick what you're feeling darned Ben from Tasha's season.

I'm, I wasn't a Stan. Me neither. Okay. So it's a. similar situation with so with ben it was like anytime i said which actually we're releasing an episode on thursday where me and my co-host on on my podcast chatty broads just really go to town on him for literally no reason he hasn't done anything wrong but i can't stand him but it was like you couldn't say anything about it on the season because it was like he talked about his body image and

eating disorder and like he talked about his suicide and i'm like i can still not like someone and think that they're secretly low-key trash even though they're bringing important issues to the table, right? It's like, I don't have to like someone just because they're talking about how they tried to commit suicide. Even though I appreciated his openness.

Now, it was like with Sarah, I feel like everyone is like, we can't take anything about Sarah because she's going home for her dad who has ALS. And while that is horrible, and I am so sorry for her family, she did not leave for her dad.

And you heard it in a, she said a line at the end of the episode when she's leaving the limo and she goes, I think he knew my heart. Like I think that's why he let me leave. She said let me, he let me leave. And I'm like, oh, okay. So you were doing a Victoria Fuller. Kept saying you're going to leave. You're going to leave. And you really thought Matt was going to chase after you. But because Matt's a respectful king, he's like, you've thought and prayed about this. It was nice knowing you. You know, go. Because that's the right thing to do. I wish more leads would do that and be like, all right, you say you're going. So, you know, I wish she didn't even give her as much attention as she got over it. Like, you know it for a day. And she's like, he's like, no, like. And also we're forgetting another rumor that's going around that she had a boyfriend going into the show, which I'm getting. I didn't even know about this rumor.

Yeah. There's a rumor that. So I'm saying, where there's smoke, there's fucking fire. So if all of this is going around, you remember when Pilot Pete, they were like, he had a girl, he left for Hannah Brown season.

It's always kind of true. Even if it's like, okay, the girlfriend was like only three months and not five months and they were it's not completely made up. You know what I mean? I mean, I don't judge anyone for having a boyfriend before the show. It's like you didn't,

you hadn't met the lead yet. You know, you broke up with them. Well, no. They're saying that like the boyfriend understood that she's going to go on to like promote herself like she still was with the boyfriend was my point so there's just too much going on where like I'm really upset with myself because I was like literally I was like she's just genuine and real

is what I said I said that I said she's so genuine and real cut to it was too much it's also like they dragged it on so much this episode like I was sick of seeing her cry which you know which you know she's coming back because of that if someone's leaving week three and they're not coming back it's going to be like you're you never even knew they existed no one's going to get that much screen time if they're coming back like like a j i brought up the example like jason who left on claire's season uh our on tasha season jason was like all into claire and then left you basically you barely even saw their goodbye it was like he was never even there and that's what would happen with her if she wasn't coming back but she is going to come that's annoying yes and it's probably the clip where

he's like i don't even know what to do now because she's probably going to come back when he's like with the top five or six. And she's going to show back. And Becca, you put that up today, which made me so excited that you're coming on today because you put it up with this like awesome story filter that I need to use. Is it the best filter?

Oh my God, I loved it. I didn't know what you were doing. I was like, is she in a podium? Like, what's happening? So you were like, announcement announcement. Like she's going to come back and I was like, I love that. But my favorite part of the episode and I put this up was,

and I went, I literally rewound, 5,000 times to watch of this was so I was hating on Victoria the first two episodes, obviously like the rest of the world. How amazing was she? Obsessed. Obsessed with the scene. Bringing out loud.

Obsessed with the scene where Sarah's like, if you guys know her heart, she's like, we don't. And she's like, you got to know me. She's like, who even knows you? Who is she talking to? Who is she talking to? I was dying. Dying.

I want, I saved it on my phone. I posted it. like to my feed, I was like, this is worthy. Worthy. I'm upset. I love it. She was killing me. I know. I know. It was so good. I know. Victoria made such a comeback. She made. She made such a comeback because she was also like, I think she's like, I don't know if she's smarter than Sarah, but when she went to console Sarah and she was like, no, like, I'm here for you. We knew she was like, doesn't give a shit about her. And it was hilarious because she's like, we were concerned because we like

know, we're like, Sarah's not malicious. She must be sick. Are you sick? Are you feeling okay? That was so iconic. No, but the minute you say lines like, they know my heart, you know, those are like bachelor lines.

Not to mention, she's pulling out this jealousy thing and it's week three. Because again, we don't see that you like him. Like, there's either chemistry and you see that the person like isn't, Like, we didn't see the chemistry. We didn't see the vibe. And all of a sudden, you're like, so on one hand, you're dying because you're so jealous that the girls read out some, like, dick, porn, sass talk.

On the other hand, you're going home because you can't handle it. It's like, so what's going on? How would you break it down? Like, what's going on? With Sarah? Yeah. Like, what is it her thought? Are they planting this shit?

Like, what? What's going on? I'm confused, too, because it's like, I don't actually think that. I don't know if I believe she's intentionally being manipulative and that's like part of her like that's a it's all a scheme. I don't really believe that. I think that I'd like I don't really know and with the whole jealousy thing like I think one yeah she's probably being prodded like how does that make you feel knowing that he's giving these girls all this attention and that they're growing closer to him because of it but I'm also like maybe she actually does have like really serious jealousy issues. Maybe she's also super competitive, I don't know, because the show definitely brings out, like, you know, like a competitive side of you. Because you might not even be that into the lead. But then when you see all these other girls, like, being into him and going after him, that kind of, like, puts you in a funny mental state where suddenly he is, like, God himself and you, like, must end up with him at the end because everyone else is so obsessed with him. I don't really know. But I was just so confused, like, even with the, like the, like the, the, the, the.

the first group date where they're doing the erotica, it's like fun, you know, it's like, it's silly. I don't, I don't really understand, I don't know. Like, how did that make you jealous? It wasn't like, emotional. Everyone was reading, whatever. Yeah, and everyone was just laughing and having

a good time. Like, I think she would have been really uncomfortable if she was on a date and had to do that challenge. So, I don't know. So why do you think she left? I don't think she was really going to leave. I think she was

waiting. the whole time, whether she consciously realizes it or not, I think she wanted Matt to come after her and be like, no, I'm really in love with you. Like, I can't have you leave. I think that's what she wanted in her heart of hearts, whether or not she consciously realizes it. And I think she was a little thrown off when she's like, oh, like, now I guess I have to go home since I said I was going to go home. But what's so funny is she's probably not going home because she doesn't live at home. and that was not even true. Do you get what I'm saying?

That's what's annoying is that if she's using her father's disease, then that's like that makes her really not cool. You got what I'm saying? I mean, that's actually a really sweet moment she had with Katie when Katie talks about how her dad passed away in 2012. Right. But then Sarah says, like, my dad has possibly weeks to live. And I'm like, then, honey, why are you here on the reality TV show?

If you knew this all along, say, we were missing something. doesn't add up here. So this woman, again, I don't know how legit she is, but she looks pretty legit, tweeted. She tweeted, I'll say this, then shut up. Now I don't have to listen to Sarah, drag her dad through the bachelor bullshit. I've been my friend for 34 years. He didn't deserve to be used on TV. I introduced her parents to each other.

They are my friends. The whole thing was a travesting. Oh, my. What? Yeah. I hope this woman can be like very, very, very much. verified. Like if anyone knows of this. She said, wait, what's the first part? She said about Sarah? She said, I'll say this and then shut up. Like now that Sarah's gone, I don't have to listen to Sarah drag her dad through the bachelor bullshit. He's been my friend for 34 years. He didn't deserve to be used on TV. So that's insane. That's tea. Yeah. I introduced her parents to each other. They are my friends. The whole thing was a travesty. I wonder. I mean, it makes you, I can't help but wonder. What the fuck.

is up with Sarah and I mean, it's a lot, as Tasha would say. Becca, alert, alert, alert, Becca, alert. Dale put up a confirmation. What do you say? Please read it to me. I wanted all. Everyone's going to hate on him for the typo, which like I don't care about typos, but you know how annoying people are.

He said, I know. People are going to be like to share with you. I wanted share with you all that Claire and I have decided to go our seven. separate ways. We appreciate the love and support we've received from so many people, but this is the healthiest decision for both of us at this time. We strongly believe in leading with love and always remain true to oneself, something our families have taught and instilled in us throughout our lives. We only hope the best things for, I still can't believe you were like into, I can't believe, I can't believe that. He wasn't into her for even a minute.

You don't think so? I don't think so. I think he was like, like, oh, this is what's happening. And he went with it for a while. And he's dying to be famous and he's dying to. He did he did Instagram questions before the season was over of like, where do you see yourself in five years? And he was like, I see my brand. Like the minute they're trying to grow their brands,

like it's a problem. You know what I mean? I'm just trying to connect and build. Yeah, build my brand. That is so. funny. Is she eating? I can't tell. No, this is Frank. Hi baby. This is a little wingsuit. Oh, it's a zippity d-d-d-d-d- whatever, right? I don't know. I returned that shit. I returned it. I will like handle it.

You do? I love it because he can like, he feels all comfy, but he can chew on his hands. And like, I love it. He's not supposed to be in it anymore. Technically, he's like six months old. Seven months. Seven months today. Seven months today. Happy birthday. Yeah, he's not supposed to be in it anymore, but I still put him in it. First of all, props to us podcasting moms, okay? Right?

It's a lot. It's a lot. Wait, do you ship Zach and Tasha like the most you've ever shipped a couple? Or is that just me? Okay, I'm, I'm like, I was obsessed with Dale and Claire, like, ironically. No, stop. That's, yeah, you were being fun. You were being different.

Yeah, I'm, I'm being ironic about it. I, like, wanted them to last to, like, prove everyone wrong. Like, I was really rooting for them, you know? I really was. And I was mad that, like, Claire got all the hate and just got painted as she just has always been done dirty by the bachelor. They've always done her dirty. And I like her.

I met her once and hung out with her. And she was, she's just, she's nice. She's just kind of like that friend that's like a little crazy, you know, but she's cool. Anyway, Tasha and Zach, on the other hand, actually obsessed. I would probably be more upset if they broke up than if my parents broke up. Like, I'm so obsessed with them. It's crazy. No, I feel like I don't know who I'm going to be mad at if, like, he hurt her.

I'm going to be more mad at. If she hurts him, I'm going to be really upset. I think they're the real deal. I was watching with my sister today and we're also making fun of the fact that their resort is a lot better than La Quinta. Oh, Lakeinta was crashed. Yeah, I was saying the same thing. I was like, his house, okay, Tasha's sweet that they put her in in La Kinta was like 2003,

and his is like 20, 25. His kitchen set up and his whole pad day. He rolled in in a helicopter, then in his Mercedes Benz. Then he had little vintage Porsches they're bringing him in on. Like, I know. And Tasha was in like, I'm sorry, a lot of people are like, it's bald off or whatever the resort is. But it was like a, it was a motel. It was like not too much of a vibe.

No, it's like a fancy resort for people who are over 60. It's like a, you know, it's a fancy resort you go to with your swingers club. It's not like something you go to when you're 30 and hot and young. But the new place is amazing. They're trying to make him like a 007, I feel like kind of vibe. And it's so cool. It's so cool. But so I was telling my sister today, she was like, they did Tasha dirty.

And I was like, but Tisha got Zach, you know, Tasha got a real one. Like I'm saying Zach's Instagram grid is what every contestant's Instagram grid should look like before they go on the show. You know what I mean? Also that would be my hope. Not cloud goblins. Yeah. Right. Yeah.

100%. He is he's also old. This is one thing that's crazy though. And we got to thank Claire for Zach because Zach was in the second round of casting when they started casting older dudes for Claire. Oh, he was. Yes. Because everyone was complaining about. how young all the guys were with the original casting for Claire.

And so Zach was brought in for Claire's casting. And so if Tasia had been the original bachelor, had it not been for Claire, Zach wouldn't have been on there. But do you think they're going to last? Like, honestly, like put like hopes inside. Do you think, you think they're going to last?

I think so. I really hope so. I mean, she's in New York now. She seems to be like enjoying it. They're both into sneakers. It's really cute. She's supporting him. And he's sober.

that's like she's I mean it's a big it's a big thing you know what I mean yeah I do agree with that but I think that I by the way I love Tasia so much and I say this without the slightest bit of shade but if it was going to be anyone's fault I kind of feel like it would be Tasia if if they broke out yeah yeah he's he's he's he's he's a he's a real one he's ready for it his mom and I think she is too like I'm not saying like I said like the least like the least possible bit of shade but like his communication skills and like like he's got just some tools for like have you ever seen someone so calm cool and collected in the top like three or four he's literally just like yep i know she's going to go spend the night with other people and there's something

sexy about him like somehow like he's like he's like confident and he's secure and he's got his shit figured out and he's not about to burden you with any of his issues you know he's worked through them. That's the vibe that I get. And he made jokes. Remember, he made like jokes. Like he kept the humor. But Tasha, we have to give her props because I won't forget. Like I said, she did get the short end of the stick with the time she had for her season, with the location, with the dates. I mean, they tried to make shit happen at Lakeita. It was unbearable to watch. Like in that taxi cab, the paper, the paper taxi cab. I know. My car host, she was like, that's cute. And I'm like, this is horrible. This is atrocious. This is the most

embarrassing thing I've ever seen. But she was like, yeah, is this how you hail a cat? I was like, Tasha is so positive. I would cry. I'd be like, this is how you, this is what you've done to me. This is what we've, this is what we've, this is what it's done to. This is what I deserve. Like, give me a Mercedes.

Give me a Porsche. So she's, we have to give her props for also being super positive. Yeah, she's a good sport. And I really hope they stay together. But we just saw the coming scenes that they're bringing on more girls for Matt, more girls. tripping balls if I was one of the first wave of girls and they're bringing new girls in in like week four. It's too much. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. So you think it's

going to be a good season, Becca? Oh, I believe it. I believe it. I'm putting my money on it. It's going to be great. I do have to know real quick what your feelings are on Rachel. What's your vibe on her? So I feel, well, do you know that apparently she's a huge racist bully? Yeah. I mean, I am taking it. It hasn't been. confirm. No receipts. We haven't seen receipts. I'm taking it with a tiny grain of salt because I don't know. It's just like the whole hearsay of like remember when she and apparently the, I just, I don't know what to think. I don't know what to think. And I'm also like, gorgeous. I'm like taken away by her beauty though. I think are you not. Uh, she's beautiful. I think she's secretly equal for

sure. She's, I don't know about like racist, but I think that she's, she's hiding an evil side for sure. So who do you like? Do we like anyone? Victoria, no, I like Brie. I like, um, Bree is so cute. So sweet. I mean, but wait, Brie is so Bachelorette material, Becca.

They're like, don't you think they're putting her on a bachelorette pedestal? Like Chris Harrison did an article about her saying she's the whole package. Oh. To cosmopolitan saying he's the whole packet. Yeah. What is with Chris? What's happening to him lately?

He's like really getting involved in the season kind of. And I don't know what's happening. It's a little weird. Huh. He seems like hyper-involved lately. Like that was promo for his book. That is true. For his erotic novel.

Wait, what? I missed that. When Ashley I was reading that passage at the beginning of the date, that is from Chris Harrison's erotic novel. Where the F was I at that moment? I missed that moment. Oh, my God. Yeah. Yeah.

Why? Yeah. I'm what's happening should laurian zima be concerned i don't know but we went off on him on the podcast like the year ago and she unfollowed me oh no so i guess i have beef with him now but why'd you go off on him oh i don't know we were just being dumb we're like chris we're just you know like sometimes it's like you go off on someone you're being serious like when we were going off on ben like we really like can't stand him for some reason but like Chris Harrison we're just being goofy just being like oh my God Chris just thinks he's like the best thing that's ever happened to

franchise he's so full of himself you know we were just saying dumb shit like that and uh I truthfully don't really remember but anyway yeah that's his erotic novel oh my god thank you for like bring that to light for me I would literally miss that that moment probably because of my baby but that is wild that is crazy also other people are like I love Abigail I also think that it would actually be really cool she's a bachelor's at yeah what do you think about them all this is like a nitty gritty thing for me what do you think about them all getting verified after the first night on Instagram it's odd isn't it it used to be Bree is already verified even mary Lynn marilyn yeah kicked off last night Becca

Is verified on Instagram or anything? No, I mean, someone just has like a contact. Like that's with Instagram. That's what happened. Like with my season, it was like, oh, does anyone know who can like get us verified? And like there was one person I knew where like you could pay 150 bucks and like get verified for them. But you didn't have to do that. Didn't you get?

You probably got verified by yourself. No, actually he was like I was talking to a manage, a potential manager who had like a connection. It's like, oh, yeah, you're not verified. Okay, I'll make that happen. So it's kind of like just. who you know. Usually, I thought that, yeah, it, listen, after the first night, that usually doesn't happen. Usually it's the end of season. That's what I'm saying. Someone probably has some sort of like connection. Because even like a finalist for Tatia season, like Brendan and Ivan,

they're not verified in Mary Lynn. That's like my biggest like, the dudes don't care about it, you know, unless they're, unless there maybe Ben, maybe Ben cares. Ben probably cares a lot. He probably really cares. He really cares. He really cares. a lot. Is he verified? Oh, good question. He's probably requesting it as we speak. If you weren't with your boyfriend that seems like he doesn't

care about Instagram, would you ever date? Oh my God, he doesn't care at all. Would you date like a Bachelor Nation person? Sure. I'm against it. I mean, it would be nice. I'll say this much. It'd be nice because you get that double. Ben is verified. Ben is verified

in living life large at 431K. Not bad for a dude. It's not bad. It's not bad at all. Not bad for a bachelorette dude. No, not bad for a lot. People liked him.

Oh, no, people are obsessed with him. That's part of the reason why I hate him even more. Ivan Hall, cuty Ivan Hall, 162K. That annoys me. I'm fucking kidding me. No, that annoys me. Honestly, that annoys me. It makes me furious.

But maybe Ben brings the better IG content, you know? But I would definitely date someone else in Bachelor Nation because, like, you know, for one, you got that double influence or influence or income. So that is where it's at. But with that also, yeah, no, strictly only for cloud reasons. I'm like, people give me more attention. You get more engagement. But I'm not like, there's no reason for me to be against it. Like being on the show is fun. And I don't hold it against anyone else for being on the show. Your baby is so cute, Becca. He's pretty beautiful. He is really beautiful. I thought my baby was like the only beautiful baby, but it's not true. I know. I

every once in a while you see someone who's like maybe half as cute as your kid, but it's rare. He's so cute. Okay. So what do you think, what do you think is going to be like the rest of the season? Do you think Matt's going to end up engaged and going to get married? I think he's going to get engaged and the engagement's going to dissolve within like 13 months. Because you know what? Okay, this is what pisses me off, Becca. Even he, okay, first of all, Rachel, the girl that I saw was beautiful and you said he was even. When she said to him, let's say I would give her a minute of, okay, maybe I believe you, even though you kissed him like you want to throw up. She said, I never felt this way.

I am so sick of people seeing that bullshit. It's like the... I felt that when I was 12. I was in love when I was 12. You know? Like, I've never felt this way. I mean, I felt that way more times than I can count. But I don't think that's bad.

Yeah, that's not bad. Why would you want to be someone who never... Don't you think that's kind of a red flag? But they all say it. I think that they think it's a good thing to say. It's the easiest way to say nothing and make it sound like you're saying something. You know what I'm saying? Like you're like, I've never felt this way before.

You're not saying I'm falling in love with you. It's such a vague thing, but it sounds like you're saying something. It's a very non-committal way of expressing. But you, so you said you're super into Matt. You think he's amazing. So did you believe him when he said the next girl or like when he was saying he had a four-month relationship and he ended it because like he wanted his next relationship to end in marriage? And meanwhile, I'm picturing him like parting it up with Tyler. Yeah, right.

I know. So it's like, yeah, it was a saucy baby for four months and then it didn't work out. Wait, he wasn't not with saucy baby. No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't. But apparently Tyler Cameron was talking to her at one point. The clout goblin. Listen, you wouldn't imagine how wild.

You would. You actually live in California. I'm in New York. It's like less. It's less. It's less here. Welcome to Los Angeles. Wait, you're in Los Angeles.

Yeah. So I know, I mean, YouTubers, these people hang out to get clout. Like, they're like, you want to hang out. It would really look wild. I know. That's like a James Charles kind of thing. That's a Jake Paul kind of thing. You know what?

I will say this. I definitely am kind of a clout goblin myself, but not really because I could never force myself to hang out with people that I don't know or don't like so that I can get followers. That is a whole other level that I cannot force myself to stoop to. Yeah. It's not okay. Right. It's weird. We all want to be loved and we all want, you know, people to like us and, and, you know, you're in the industry, obviously, but we can still judge other people, Becca. It's fine. When I first missed to L.A., I, I was definitely, like, really weirded out by how obvious it was when some people were trying to use other people as, like, you know, step as ladders, like success. It's very, I don't like that vibe. Very odd. Very creepy. But you manage, you manage to somehow be in it. Like, you have a career from it, right? And everything like that.

But you have your own life. You have your partner. You have your babies. So you're not like you're in it, but not of it, right? Yeah. Yeah. So that's a good vibe. Okay, Beck, I'm going to let you go to your baby.

But I loved having you on and chatting with you. Thank you so much for having me. Let's talk mom stuff soon. Yes. Yes. Thank you. Hey, Franklin says bye. Bye.

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