Not Skinny But Not Fat - The New RHONY w/ Erin Dana Lichy

Episode Date: August 15, 2023

I’m obsessed with the new Real Housewives of New York! It’s fresh, it’s fun, and I love the new girls! Erin is one of my faves. Not only did we go to the same high school, but she’s a real New Yorker and super cool & down to earth! We talk about how she got on the show, who she’s closest to, who’s the star of the show, who’s different on/off camera and which OG reached out to her to have lunch! Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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talking about reality TV, celebrities, everything happening and pop culture. I also talk to some of our favorite celebs and reality TV stars, we talk about what's going on. Tune in every Tuesday and just feel like you're talking your shit with your best friends in your living room. We went to the same high school. I know. And I remember you. Like I remember the face. Yeah, yeah. Like I remember. You were friends with, we talked about this with Nina. Nina was my best friend. I'm still close with her. I'm still close with all my girlfriends from high school.

Really? Yeah. It was me. It was Erin, Nina, Devin, Lily. Do you remember our nickname? This is so embarrassing. What? The Vomid Squad.

Wait, why? Because you used to get fucked up and throw up. Yeah. I was in the, like, weed squad. I was in that, too. I was in the weird. We went to a very, like, liberal public high school. Very liberal.

Smack middle in NYC. Mm-hmm. Lunch was at the devil. Oh, yeah. The smoke park. Remember that part? Food Village. What'd you get at Food Village? I don't remember. I didn't go to Food Village much. You didn't go. Would you go to the diner? No, I went to the diner for a bagel and I spent like 50 cents on it. And after a while, they were like, you can't come here anymore. You can't come and get a bagel for 50 cents. And then we would go to Blimpy. Blimpy. Remember Blimpy? Remember Blimpy? Oh, yes. It's pretty good. Blimpie is good. Isn't that wild, though, for people that don't live in New York to think about the New York City, public high school, experience and realize that we were, like, roaming the streets, I would get, like, I told,

14 years old. I told my husband the other day, like, remember the top of the hill a guy? The top of the hell of the guy. Like the cart, the coffee cart. Oh, yeah, of course. So, I would get a nice coffee in the morning. Always. With, like, gazillion sugar.

So much cream. So much cream. Like, like, I would sip the sugar because, like, you didn't have, like, the pour it in melting sugar. Why was I drinking a giant ice coffee at 14? Literally 14. And smoking a cigarette before. Oh.

want to know what we used to do what we used to have a bodega guy but like that i don't know why they don't exist anymore but like you know those standalone like nice looking bodegas that were like standalone in the corners yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so weird that that doesn't exist yeah but we had a guy named kareem okay he would go there he would tell you cigarettes he would give us cigarettes and money and candy what me and nina used to go and we'd be like hey kareem he'd be like oh what do you one now. Five Dada. And we'd be like, sure. Give us $5. We'd go by like from, we'd go to like raise pizza across the street. Actually, no, we used to go to new pizza town. Remember that one? That's literally wild because I had to go to the, I didn't have that connection with Kareem. So I had to go to the supermarket. This is what I used to do guys. And I thought that that I was

legit. I used to like leave my backpack with my front outside, walk into the supermarket where they used to sell cigarettes too. Right. Right. And I used to be like, I'm going to be back at the office in 10 minutes, wait for my meeting like pretend i'm a businesswoman to the cashier just and like we i think it might have not always oh remember were you never marlboro lights i was campbell lights i was camp that was intense you're really hippie i know i was hippie i'm telling you so going to i mean going to public school high school in new york city is is an experience we experienced things young did you have mr luteke Of course.

I like loved him. Wait, to remind me what he looked like? He was like scruffy and very hippy. And he'd be like, you know, one day he would like come into class and be like, I just gave away all my things because things don't matter. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was so they were so hippie. We didn't have grades. We had like assessments.

Yeah. It was super. And looking back, the teachers were like 25. They were young. They were young. They were great. Miss Lubbla, Lublin, the English teacher. I remember them all.

I remember them all too. And Miss Lacey screaming at us to come down the hill. Mr. Streep, Merrill Streep's brother was our, like, principal. I know. I love that for us. But, okay, so you don't remember me. That's fine. I was younger than you.

I, like, remember the grade older than me. You know, so I remember the girls. I actually just saw, you know who lives in my neighborhood, Tilly? Oh, my God. And I came up to her, too. And I was like, that's so funny. Yeah, I know your face from somewhere. And I wasn't sure.

And that's wild. So it is kind of wild, though, that you went to public school in New York. How does that add up with like a lifestyle? You know what's funny? I went to private school until eighth grade and it was Jewish school. So like my parents wanted me to read and write Hebrew that was like very important to them. And I still like know how because of the school. But I think I was like I knew at that age it's so young that I was in this bubble and I just wanted to get out.

Like you wanted to. I wanted to. And I really wanted to experience like New York City. That's so cool. And then I met like I mean I'm when I tell you we are still all best friends. I'm still best friends with all my high school friends. Is the group chat still vomit girls? No, no, no. It's like evolved from that. It's evolved. It's like embarrassing.

But like, you know how it is in New York? Not everyone went to the same high school. Like we, our best friend called her went to Bronx Science. And then like we had a bunch of friends at York prep. It was like kind of like this little community that all like was like two degrees of separation. And we all are still best friends. It's crazy. So what do they think of you being on Real Housewives of New York? I think they get such a kick out of it. Yeah. They're like, oh, my God, Rooney.

Everyone calls me Rooney. They're like, Rudy. Why Rudy? No, Rooney. Okay, so. Oh, like Rooney? My dad used to call me Eruni, like Erin. Uh-huh.

Eruni. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. It's like a Hebrew. I guess it's like an Israeli way of like Aruni. Yeah. I don't know. Eruny.

But now, I don't know. Now my friends just call me Rooney. That's, okay. So public school, but then you also went to state school for college. Then I went to SUNY Albany. Yeah. And then I went to NYU. Cool.

Yeah. Sunni, even the SUNY is a choice because... That was because I couldn't get into anywhere else. I was really bad in high school. I think I like stopped learning in ninth grade and then continued in college. No, that's so crazy. I was such a fucking little shit that I wouldn't go to state school. Like I told my mom, I was like, I want to go to private school.

Maybe because of Beacon. Yeah, you have enough. Because I needed a little bit of like just not craziness. And I don't know why I thought that a private school would be like, different, but where'd you go? To Ithaca. Oh, Nina went there. Right, right. And that's where she met Mike. Lohan. You guys, my claim to fame is that Mike Lohan. Lindsay Lohan's brother went to my college. We were all waiting for graduation day for it to come. She didn't. Well, yeah, I'm not going to speak about it. I have a lot to say. Where was she at that point? We don't know. Okay, so that's a choice.

I love that, though, that you made the choice to go to public school. Like, I really do. It was good for me, I think. Even though you had that, we were just talking about. about it. Like, you grew up also with a house in the Hamptons with your family and used to hang out with Scott Dissick. Yeah, Scott was my boy. Oh, my God. If you saw the pictures, those will remain locked away forever. Was he cute as a kid? He was hilarious. He was funny. So funny and such a good time, really, like, hysterical. He was the funny one. Yeah. But there was like a group of them. Like, it was him, our friend Nick, Alec, who's now Alec Monopoly and actually hooked up with him. Wait, the jewelry dude?

Is he jewelry? Oh, he's art. He's art. Yeah. Monopoly. I guess he wears jewelry. A lot of it. He's like this little guy with all the stuff.

Yeah. But we used to have so much fun out east. We used to have so much fun. I love how the Hamptons people call it out east. I know. Do you find that it's like less like snobby sounding? I don't know. We all say out east.

You all say out east. I don't know what it is. I know. I don't know. Just is. It's like saying the city. Oh, gotcha. Yeah.

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more. Okay, so you go on Roney, you're a new cast member. I love it. By the way, and this is, you know, my followers know this. I fell off the housewives bandwagon. Same. I was watching, not all of them, but I was watching New York and New Jersey. And it just got a lot for me, the fighting and the caddiness and kind of like the same situation. And I was dark. It got, right. It turned dark.

Yeah. Yeah. And then with this new one, I was like, you know what? I love starting a show like from the go and being involved and like knowing who everybody is started, you know, episode one with your season. And I love it. It's good. I love it. And I love all of you. And I think that it's so good. and obviously was super exciting that we went to high school together. And so many people wrote to me from like my year being like, she went to high school with us. And it's such a small world because who would have thought that somebody from Beacon, you guys don't understand, would end up on Real Housewives of New York.

It's wild. Everyone from Beacon is like a politician. Yeah? I don't know. Some people made it out, okay? Are they working? Because like, I'm not sure. They might be.

Some work. Yeah, some work. work. Some work. One of, actually, Colin, this guy, Colin, I don't know. Paulin was probably older than you. McTigue, I don't even know how to say the last name. He is my furniture designer. He designs all my custom furniture for all my clients. Stop. Yeah. There's like some, you know, some good ones. Would you ever think that you would end up on a Bravo reality show? No, no. About like rich Manhattan women. Nope. I don't think I would have done it had it been the old cast just because I don't think I would have made sense. Yeah. It just would have been.

weird but like this felt really fresh and exciting yeah you know so how did it happen can you tell us i was introduced by lizzie oh okay i was friends with her oh okay are you not anymore no i am okay i am it sucks what happened yeah yeah so lizzie sevetsky was supposed to be on the show in the new cast and she wasn't something happened there was some shake up with yeah in the cast yeah are we going to find out on the show what happened at all we never talk about we never talk about it. Can you tell us anything that happened? I think she just, it just wasn't the right fit for her. She just had to like move on. Did it scare you what happened to her that would happen to you too since you are also, you know, talk about your Jewishness and your Israeli family

and everything? I think it's like a different way that we approach like, you know, and also I don't know as much as she does. Like I'm not like it's not like my thing. Right. You know what I mean? Yeah. Like it's part of who you are. It's not all. Right. Exactly. Right. Right. Right. Exactly. Yeah. It's not like my mission. Yeah. Although, of course, it's important to me. Yeah. And you talk about it, which I love. I think that there's a way, because I'm Israeli too, and it's not like I talk about, you know, the politics or or try to explain what's going on all day. But it's like, you know, my husband's Israeli. You know, my kid speaks Hebrew. I go to Tel Aviv. I show that it's great there. You know, like that's my way, you know? And that's the way. And that's the way. So you were saying you wouldn't go on. with the previous cast.

I just, I don't think I would make any sense. Yeah. You know. Did you watch? I didn't watch the last bit. The last bed. But you watch, like, you know all the girls. Oh my God.

I like, I always say Scary Island was the best. Wait, who's your fave? I think Sonia was so funny. Yeah. I love Bethany, obviously, because she was just like quick and like, she felt like familiar. Did you ever meet her? No. Did you ever meet any of them or hang out with them?

So I went to see this Broadway show. Actually, it was so weird because we went to this Broadway show and it was Bethany, Luann, me in a row. Okay. And I went to like, it was intermission. We got a drink. My husband and I was walking out. And I was like, by the way, like, I'm Aaron. I'm on the news.

She was like, oh, I don't know any of you guys. I'm like, oh, okay. All right. That's what she said, do you? Yeah. But then we ended up talking and she was lovely, stunning, beautiful women. She is beautiful like drop the skin care whatever she's doing is working body everything bangin but she's very Luan like in real life yes like what you see is what you get yes but but we had fun

like we had a great time my husband was talking to Jacques she was there with him and like we had a great you know 20 minutes of chatting wait when was this what jock her old husband yeah she was with him she was with him no yeah I don't know if they were like dating okay I was there and I was like oh I remember you Wait, so did any of them reach out to you guys, congratulate you, give you tips? You mean Rony? Yeah. Well, Jill, I had lunch with her. Oh, you did?

I spoke to her for an hour on the phone the other day. Wait, how did you get connected to her? She reached out and I had lunch, me, her, and Uber and her daughter had lunch. That's so cute. Yeah, it was really sweet. Like it was filmed or for fun? No. Oh.

She just like, we just went out. That's so nice. Yeah. Did she give you like the lowdown? Sort of. Yeah. Yeah, but we were just like catching up. I like that.

You know what? She, people like give her shit because she likes to be so much in the mix. And she does. I think she does. Yeah. But she's also very sweet. Yeah. A familiar sweet like mama bear type.

Yeah. The intentions are probably havesies. Right. Like have to be nice and have to be in the mix. Right. Maybe make an appearance. Maybe come on as maybe have lunch on the show. So what was like her best tip to you?

Well, one thing she said to me the other day I thought was really interesting and very insightful. Yeah. She was like, some of the things that happen, like when you're on a show like this are not natural, right? Like, you're watching your friend's thoughts in their confessionals and their thoughts are about you. Yeah. So it's like, she's like, don't take it like that. You know what I mean? Because they have, you know, they have to recite or they have to like explain what happened.

Yeah, you're not going to survive if you like get upset about it. Right. And she's like, you know, you could get off the phone with me and think to yourself like, oh, she talks too much or whatever. And you wouldn't, I wouldn't know that. But you know it from the show because you. You have the confessions. And I was like, wow, that's interesting. And now watching the confessionals, do you ever feel like you need that reminder? Because you're getting upset? No, I'm not getting upset. But some of them, I'm like, okay. Yeah. I don't know you felt that

strongly, you know? Yeah. Do you hit them up? Are you texting? Yeah. We have a group text that's like constant. Constant. I mean, it's exciting because you're in it together. Yeah. You know, a lot of times it's like when Leah joined Rone, she was like on her own. But it's nice to have Jill, actually you could talk shit about the other girls with jill yeah true have her on your side i know i want to ask you your thoughts because jena lions is really getting like some love out there does it feel to you guys like she's the star of the show or like she's getting a lot of focus yeah yeah did you expect that no not at all really no not at all because it's interesting to watch those things unfold to me as a viewer i'm like whoa oh me too fully yeah very interesting like when you were filming that wasn't the

vibe that you were feeling. Well, because she's just not as like, when you're with her in person, she's very, like, kind of timid and sweet, very sweet. Like, I'm close with her. But not what you would expect to be. But I think what it is that people are enamored by is the fact that she's so, like, she's so unlikely. Yeah. You know what I mean? So it's like such a shock. So then to see her in this situation, it's like, it's just so new. People are so excited about it. Yeah. And it's great to see a gay woman on these kind of shows. And also that she's an enigma in general of like, you know, she'll wear the new mu-moo poplin, whatever, but also she'll be with like converts and jeans.

Like she has her own kind of like very supposing vibe. Very much so. Like you hit the nail on the head. Like it's she. The diamonds. I was shocked when you guys were like, you have a million. Right. Trucker hat and diamonds.

I love it though. Me too. Yeah. And it's also like, she. She likes the attention, but then she's really private. It's like, you know what I mean? She throws you off. She throws you off.

Wait, so do you know her before? No. No, you met her. Like, I knew her from people, but no. But you connected? Yeah, actually. I think a lot of the girls, like, you know, weren't really connecting with her. And I was probably the first one that connected to her.

Yeah. How do you, why do you think that is? I think that to me she felt like normal, you know. Do you think they're more like timid of her? No, to me, I'm saying to me, she felt like a normal person. So I'm gravitated her. Like, I felt like I could trust her. I felt like I could text her a picture of my outfit and be like, what do you think?

Yeah. Like the normal things that you would do with a friend, I felt natural with her. Do you know what I mean? And maybe with the other ones less. Yeah, like when someone would make a comment, like we'd always look at each other. You know, like those things. Yeah. Where is she from? She's from L.A.

She's from L.A. I feel like she's from Connecticut. Or from New York. I was going to say maybe it's the like you have, first of all, you're a real New York. You know what I mean? And that brings a lot and you're real. And I think that your vibe with her, to me, is so nice because it feels like effortless. You know what I mean?

Yeah. Yeah. That's how I was always kind of, I've always felt like that with her. I couldn't figure her out that much at first. But I, like, innately just knew that she was like good people's. What present did she bring you? Because you didn't end up opening it. What was it?

She brought me a Susie Condi set, like a sweater. Yeah. Long sleeves and then but a short sleeve. Wait. Is it the thing that she said was too expensive or was something else? No, no. That's what I was wondering. It was like a little set. It was really cute. Oh, that is really cute.

Yeah. And it was a perfect Hampton gift because it was like shorts and then like a cozy sweater. So like if it's like a warmish summer night. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. It was good. That she's a good gift giver. Yeah. Oh, my God. The amount of gifts she gives us. Oh, my God. She's a big gifter. Oh, my God. Become friends with Jenna Lyon.

Yeah. So I wanted to ask you though, because we were talking about Lizzie before. So when you came into this, because I know, you know, I spoke to Andy about this too, like the process of signing up for this is like, you're signing up for this and your husband is signing up for this. Was he down? Were you timid to like the exposure? He was like, like, it's hard to explain because people are like, really? Like he was just like, why wouldn't you say yes to this? Like he's so like confident in himself. He's a very confident person.

So he was just like, I don't understand like, why is this a question? Like there's a great opportunity. like it's going to be great like what's wrong you know like so we and we also are very much like yes people we don't think like if like if we're invited to like a 40th birthday with people we don't know that well we'll go and like have a great time yeah what i mean so i don't know why that was the analogy yeah i was thinking because we do that because he turned 40 or something recently yeah we're actually going away for his birthday i'm so excited we're going to loom with the kids no with like 30 friends what who was he Kim Kardashian are you treating the 30 friends

I was going to ask. But we're doing, like, events when we're there. But no, he was, like, all about it. I mean, my family also, like, I went, like, obviously called my siblings, my parents, and they were like, yeah, great. Like, can I be on the show, too? No, stop. My dad was like, when do I get my contract?

I'm like, you're not getting it. Wait, he's, like, full Israeli. Oh, hardcore. Like, what year did it, when did he move here? When he was, like, 20? I'm like, why doesn't your accent go away? I know. I made fun of my mom's accent the other day, and I was like.

Like, you're like a New Yorker at this point. I know. But the accent, but it's, but it's cute. They can't get rid of it. Do you speak Hebrew? Yeah. Like, you understand fully. Oh, so we can gossip about people like if we're together. Oh, I love. Die. How didn't we know this? I don't know. It's crazy. This is literally wild.

I know. Okay, so you weren't afraid to expose your family. Are your kids going to be on the show or is that? They're on it, but they're so little. How old are they? I have an eight and a half year old, a six-year-old and a three-year-old. First of all, three kids in the city. Three kids in general. That's why. And also, you got married at 24. I'm telling you. Crazy. That's actually for the city that's like getting married at 16. It's crazy. I know. Child bride. All my friends call me child bride. How did that happen? I don't know. Like, it wasn't planned. Like we just met and like we both come from big families or both one of five or he's one of six actually. And our parents were like, no by my dad, you know, new yalla. Like, what's the problem? Like, let's go. And it just like happened. I mean, I don't know. It's, I don't know. It's, I

Look, I had dated so many people. Yeah. He had dated so many people. It was out of our systems, you know? Like, we were good at that point. I have friends, though, that have, like, Nina, that have met their husbands in college. Yeah. That are still together.

So, like, just because we got married. Yeah. You know what I mean? It seems like longer, but it's not. Right. And then when did you have your first kid? I was 28. 28.

And you come from a big family. So that's why. usually because you have your, you're one of five. 28. People were like your teen mom. No, teen mom. It's not that young. I know.

It's not that young. Yeah. It's not that young. But it's fun now you have three kids. You're 36 and you're done. I'm done. That's so fun for you. So they're on the show like a little bit.

A little bit. Yeah, but they like my son at one point was like, how come they're not micing me up? Like he wanted to get mic'd like. That's so funny. I'm like, okay. Yeah. So, I mean, it's all, it all depends on their mood. Like if they don't feel like doing it, I'm like, okay, it's fine.

But if they want to, they can. Did you think, because you have your own business, home girl, right? Yeah. Like where you do kind of design. So I'm a real estate agent. Yeah. But I also have my interior design business. And that business is really catering towards market value as well as interior design.

So like if a client comes to me with a renovation, even if they don't ask me for it, I'm making sure that they're increasing their property value. Yeah. That's so badass. It's fun. Did you take this opportunity, like the housewives, like, oh, that might help my business too. Absolutely. Yeah. Absolutely. And I'm starting a Ms. Gall brand. A what? Miss Gall. No, you're not. Celebrate alcohol. Another one. Another one. Another one.

Another one. But this one is different. Yeah. In what way? Different. What we are doing is changing the dynamic between the spirit world and alcohol. And, well, changing the dynamic in the sense that we're not like just selling party, right? We're selling. We're selling. mindfulness. And the reason why we named it Mescaloom is because Tulum is a place where you can go and have a spirited night and have fun with your friends and wake up in the morning and do yoga or to have a green juice. You know, it's about balance and a lifestyle that doesn't mean that because now it's like you're sober or you're getting wasted all the time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's no like middle ground. Right. And so we're the middle ground. And also Ms. Scala is the best alcohol you could drink like for your body. For your body. If you're going to drink anything,

Ms. Scala's the absolute purest. Oh, because it's pure. Because it's the way it's made. So tequila only has to be 51% agave. The rest can be additives. Okay. Miskal, by Mexican law, has to be 100%, 100% pure agave. So there's nothing in it. It's just agave. Ah. Oh. Which is obviously natural. So it's going to be called Ms. Kalum. It's mescalum. That's cute. Yeah. So, okay, so aside from it helping your business and you being open and a S person, was there any part of you growing up and coming into the show that wanted like the fame to, like the followers and like that kind of vibe? Or were you not the

kind of girl. I don't know if it's the fame, but I am happy that I have a platform. You know, to bring hopefully light and fun and happiness and like to show my life in a way that I hope would inspire, especially other mothers. Like this is something I think about a lot. I was actually on a podcast with a friend that has a podcast all about like, you know, changing your career once you have kids. And I don't know. I think it's so important for women to not lose that. Yeah. And I know, of course now it's all about like femininity and female power and women work like crazy but there's still so many women that get lost after they have kids yeah so many it's more common than discussed I think yeah and I don't know I just feel passionate about inspiring women where were you at your career when

you had a kid so I am lucky in the sense probably like you that I can make my own schedule yeah right so like if I wanted to take off a couple months and just send emails and make offers and deals like that. I could do that. Yeah. You know, so I feel blessed that I have it, but I also know that there are ways for anybody in any industry to create their own path, especially in this day. Yeah. You know what I mean? I say that. Well, my line that my people know is you can be a mom and still be a dumb bitch. Oh, I love that. I'll get you a sweater. Well, yeah, and that came from obviously not being a dumb bitch in the sense of being a dumb bitch, but in the sense of because I, I remember it. actually came up when this 25-year-old dumb bitch was talking to me, she was actually a dumb

bitch. And she was like, my God, like, can't believe you have kids. And I can't believe you're over 30. Like, she was just like, so, she's like, oh, my God. Just such a dumb bit. She's so dumb. She was like, how are you? Like, you had a kid. That's so scary. And I'm going to lose myself. And I'm not going to do this and that. And to her I said, like, you can be a mom and still be a dumb bitch. Like, they're a dumb bitches running around here being moms. You don't have to have a doctorate. Like, and, but actually. what I mean by it. That's part of it. Actually, what I mean by it is you can still watch reality TV. You can be on reality TV. Right. You can care about the things you cared about. You don't have to be all mom stuff now.

Exactly. And take the dumb bitch as you can be a boss bitch, a successful bitch. You can be all the things after being a mom. I was scared too to have to have a baby. And I was like, I'm not where I want to be my career. And I mean, having Noah is like my example of, I'm not going to be all woo-woo and be like, he's the reason that I am. But I'm going to say he didn't halt me. No. He didn't stop me. That's the difference. Yeah. And it's so important. I think it's important for the kids.

My husband and I talk about this all the time. Like, it's important for them to not think that they're the center of your world. Mm. You know what I mean? Because then they have this like inflated ego and then they have trouble being individuals. Like they have to know that they're your child and you love them so much more than anything else on earth. But there still is life outside of it. There's still a relationship that needs to be tended.

to between the parents. I know. You know, like, there's so much more. And I think it's important for kids to know. I know. I think that's important, too. And it's just for everybody to know that you can be a mom or become a parent. It changes your life.

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Oh, gosh. Because we want to talk about that. First of all, you invite the girls to your Hampton's home, which is so cute. They were complaining a lot. The whole time. What was going on? Have you ever dealt with people being so rude in your home? I thought it was a great host before this trip.

Yeah. Like, I've never had an issue ever. I always host people. That's like my thing. Yeah. But I don't know. Everyone was so crabby. Like, it's cold.

The Wi-Fi. Then, like, at one point, Jessel, this was not on air. But Jessel, like, was asking me for, like, she was like, I have my period. Do you have anything? And I was like, I have tampons. She was like, I don't want tampons. I want maxi pad ultra thins. And she sent me a photo of it. And I'm like, I don't have that brand. And I don't, what's wrong with the tampon? Get up. Do postmates. It's like, it just was like one thing after another. The Wi-Fi. And, like, then Sye was complaining about the food. And, like, she brought me toilet paper. So who was the worst on that trip? I mean, they were all ultimately great. Like, I had fun with everybody. But I think Jessel did. didn't want to be there. And that was hard for me because it sucked. Like, it sucks to have someone

in your house that's not happy. Do you think she didn't want to be there because, like, the kids or like she wasn't comfortable in your home? I think she just, like, we were giving her shit for the lingerie. Yeah. So I think that was hard on her. Yeah. And I, I don't know. I just don't think she was comfortable. Yeah. Maybe she didn't like the room I gave her. Did you take that as her being rude? No, I didn't really care. And what about sigh? I didn't know how hungry sigh was my, that whole trip until I saw the show. So what's the deal with food? Do you not eat it a lot?

I eat like crazy. Wait, you guys had dinner and then you want to drink the chikshuka. I served them caviar at four because we were eating in three hours. Like you had the reservation. And first of all, you eat caviar on chips sometimes and they were acting like that's a new thing. And also I had two people come and like put it together and cater it. That was like their dish. They were all like, oh, you do pringles.

Like I didn't pick the pringles. They came with the food. No, I was literally done. And Sai was, like, making fun of the Shikshuka. That, like, bothered me. Yeah. Seeing it later, that bothered me. Because that's, like, a...

And also, like, I put so much... It took me, like, an hour and a half to make that. You know how long it takes me. You have to do the onions. And then she was, like, making fun of the fact that, like, I snuck in because sometimes I put in a little rios to, like, give it a little flavor. Oh, yeah. And she was like, did you put sauce in that?

And, like, I caught it later. Yeah. I'm like, oh, she's, like, now talking shit about my cooking. And that's the next level. I was trying to feed them. Finally, a nice nourishing meal. I'm hungry now talking about the Shikshuka. By the way, Shikshuka is always better at home, I feel like.

Always. When you order it in restaurants, then that's when I'm like, okay, this is tomato sauce and a pan. 100%. If you make it at home. It takes so long. Yeah. Like, you have to do the garlic and then the onions. You have to cook it down.

And then you put everything else in the tomatoes. You have to cook. It, like, takes forever. So you weren't upset by, like, the women not being so appreciative at your home. Like, I wish they were just like a little more easy going. Yeah. But, like, did it upset me? No.

So who'd you vibe with the most on the trip? I mean, Uber just cracks me up. She's so funny. She's just so funny. There was a scene that, like, I guess, didn't air that she was, like, talking about the window in my kitchen. She was like, I just love this beautiful view. I'm like, oh, you like the woods view? That's so nice.

She was like, I love the woods view. I'll take this over Ocean View. I hate an Ocean View sucks. I'm like, what? Said no one ever. She was like, who cares about the ocean? does nothing just lays there doesn't move and then like when the sun goes down you can't even see anything we were like what she doesn't drink and she tried to steal that coconut she stole it oh

she ended up taking it no i mean we made her we made somebody come back i think and take it but she took it out of the pantry and what about brin i had a rough start with her so did you yeah with the catch yeah me too yeah i had a rough start with her yes did you know her before yeah oh okay how Not well, but... From around? From friends, yeah. Really? Yeah.

So you are super, like, connected in this town. Yeah, I mean, you know, it's my town. So you knew her before. Did you talk about coming on the show together? Yeah, I mean, we actually gelled pretty well when we had like our first one-on-one before the show. And, you know, we got along really well. And then when that whole thing happened with the restaurant, that's when I was like, oh. Wait, so what happened with the restaurant is you made a reservation for everybody.

the day of the day of catch was the only place that had room beep was the only place that had room which like you guys catch doesn't always have a reservation don't get it twisted not that bad either first of all it's it's good food the food's good's good i don't care where i'm going and i think that i always say this like i feel like that's a real new yorker you know what i mean yeah like do you care where you're going with your friends no no not at all not at all i mean like as long as there's like some sort of like of course i don't want to go to a diner if i'm want to want to to go out and have a drink. But in terms of like, no. And that's, first of all, I feel like so many people want to go to catch. You know what I mean? And can't get a reservation or it's really

expensive or whatever it is. And the only funny comment to me about catch was that she was like, I'm not a deal list model. Yeah, a dealist model. I mean, would it be the worst thing if you were a dealist model? I know. That's still a model. Wait, so who ended up going that night. So when they were walking out, they were like, oh, we're tired, whatever. So we thought. they were going home. And Jessel was like, do you still want to go out? Because our husbands were there. Yeah. This was when, after they had announced us at BravoCon. Oh, okay. That's what we were celebrating. Oh, okay. Jenna never said she was, like, she was always like a maybe. Uba was never coming. So, like, it was really supposed to be, like, Brin and her three friends. Like, it was a bunch

of us. Yeah. It wasn't just the group. And so Jessel was like, do you want to go out still? And I was like, sure. So we went to La Conda Verde with our husbands. Oh. Which was right by my house. So there wasn't even catch. even go. Because it was like a table for 10. Oh. I canceled it. So you just went with Jess Saul. And our husbands. And your husbands. And do you guys vibe? We had fun. Yeah. Yeah. We had a good time. And because I'm trying to think who you vibe with. She was on her phone most of the time. Oh, she was? The whole time. I feel like you inside don't vibe. You know what's funny? We're very close. Oh, really? Yeah. But watching the show, I wouldn't think we vibe either because she just talks about me in all of her confessions.

Right. Yeah. And what, so with Bryn, you had that. little beef, but you made up? What's your view on her? I love Britain, but we have like, I mean, she's really fun. She's like the girl you want to go out with. Yeah. You know, she's fun. She talks to everybody. You know, she has all these like crazy stories. There are parts about her that I don't fully trust, you know? Yeah. Like, what she didn't watch what happens live out of nowhere? What did she do? She, like, at the end of the show, she's like, what I learned is don't trust Aaron. I'm like, what? Like, what are you talking about? Wait, why, though? I have no idea and she still hasn't given me an answer did you ask she was like well the reason why is because in

the very beginning it was the first episode was airing and it was all about the cheese thing and you didn't really tell the truth about them like what are you talking about like what are you even saying do we make any sense the cheese thing was also kind of dumb so dumb what was the cheese thing you put out too much again i hosted and people complained so maybe somebody else host yeah like someone else host okay please but this was like before we started filming i hosted something for all the girls and like sigh was like oh so all we're having is cheese this one's always hungry yeah it's 830 we're having wine and cheese like I'm not serving you dinner yeah so I guess I had like told that story to Bryn but very much like in passing and not a big deal and she turned it

into like that's weird da da da da da which I didn't say as if you were talking shit yeah gotcha okay yeah so who surprised you the most while filming like good or bad I think Jessel you Yeah? Yeah. In what way? I think the things that she would say. Yeah. We're just like...

You were shocked? Just shock. Shock value. Like a lot of shock. Is anyone different on and off camera? No. Really? Okay.

Honestly, no. I want to talk to you about something that came up. You know, people love the franchise. We're so excited about Newcast. Everybody Googles, everybody finds every freaking last thing about them. And some stuff was found out about you. Some TikTok. were made, Reddit, wherever they talk about stuff, about you donating to Trump's campaign.

Yeah. I saw a statement you put out saying you, well, how about you tell us the statement and what your thoughts are about that? Okay, so first of all, I never did, nor do I support stop this deal or anything like that. There was some confusion around what happened with the donations, and there's a lot of articles about it, but I'm not going to get into that. And honestly, I want to talk about this here, and I'll talk about it with you. And I really don't want to ever talk about it again because it was really a hard week for me. Yeah. I was an early on supporter. I thought he was going to be really good for Israel. As things evolved, my views changed. And I think I'm allowed that right. You know, people's views change. I went to an extremely liberal school.

Yeah. My mother literally campaigned for Biden. I think I made a mistake. I made a bad judgment call. And the hardest thing for me was the whole pro-life, like people assuming that I'm pro-life. Like, I am so pro-choice and Planned Parenthood saved my life in college. And I have no problem telling people the story of me going to Planned Parenthood in college. And I'm such a big supporter of the LGBTQ community. And that's what hurts me that I'm being associated. Because, like, you know, like my upbringing. I mean, I'm the most open, most liberal, most welcoming person.

Yeah. And it, like, hurts my soul that people put me in that category. Yeah. If these were my views today, I wouldn't say anything about it. it. I would let it be. I'd be like, okay, let's move on. Yeah. But they aren't. So, you know, that's what's frustrating. And I just hope that we can put it to bed and I can go back to like being on a reality show about stupid girls. Well, thank you. Thank you for sharing that. That's important for people to know and that you set the record straight that you don't align with those

views. Not by any means. Not by any means. Okay. A few other quick questions. Who from the cast Would you trust with a secret? Jenna. I love that. Okay, you kind of answer this. Who would you choose for a fun aid out? Brun. Oh, yeah.

Okay. Or sigh. Or sigh? I have fun with sye. Okay. And now my question to you, I'm a true New Yorker. The only bowl I'll take. Like as though I'm on Wall Street.

The only bowl I'll take is by the horns. Did you come up with it? That was a group effort. You know, I don't smoke weed anymore. No, me neither. Not since high school. No, I was still in college. college. Really? Not really. Because we got it out of our system. Got it out of our system. I can't smoke.

Like at 15 I was doing shrooms. Obviously. And now everyone's like, and now when everyone's like, I'm doing shrooms. No, I love shrooms now. You do them now? Yeah, but like micro. Oh. Did you not hear that line in the show? I couldn't believe that they like used that. What'd you say? I was like, Andy definitely put that in. What do you? Jenna goes, wow, your house just like keeps going and going. And I was like, oh yeah. People always joke. It's like the best house to trip at. I'm like they use that. Yeah. Maybe it was like, it'll go over the head that it's supposed to go over. I guess it did. Because nobody picked it up. So wait, you answered me about your line. It was a group effort. The Amateur New Yorker, the only bull I'll take is by the horns. It's whatever. Are you already like thinking about one for next season?

Yes, I am. A better one? Yeah, I mean, I think it could do better than that. Okay. But it's fun. And I don't take bullshit. So. Yeah. No, I like that. I like it. Yeah. I think that anything that you say with like,

Panama, panama is going to sound a little bit cheesy. Oh, God. The taglines are so cheesy. Although Brins was brilliant. Wait, what's Brins? I love to have fun, but make me mad and I'll date your dad. Oh, I love to laugh, right? Make me mad and I'll date.

I mean, she would, too. That's silly. Erin, thank you so much for coming on the show. I'm so happy that you were, you know, my first guest from this franchise. It's just like the way it's supposed to be. You know? Yes. It was supposed to be like that.

It was supposed to be like this. And I wish you would luck on this journey. Thank you. And you're going to kill. Thank you so much. And stay chill. Thank you. Like you are.

I will. Smoke Park. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast. We don't miss any episodes. Rate the podcast that you love so much on Apple Podcast and write a little review.

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