Not Skinny But Not Fat - T.Swift’s New “Bad Blood,” Bachelorette Hometowns, & Wrapping Up VPR!

Episode Date: July 23, 2019

The KUWTK season finale; poor Koko but also poor Jordyn? Kim changes the name of her shapewear line after it being scrutinized- how about enough with the lines? The Bachelorette is almost on ...hometowns, and we got the final 4! The Hills is kind of bringing it & Justin Bobby driving a Ford Focus gave us all the feels. The #VPRAMBASSADOR (moi)  is almost done with season 7 (after 6+ months!!!!) and we recap the new “Bad Blood” T.Swift is involved in.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Not Skinny but Not Fat and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat. Hello, hello and welcome to another week of the Not Skinny but Not Fat podcast, you guys. Why is looking at me like that? I'm trying to be energetic. I know, you are. I'm so not. No, you are.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Okay. Hey, everyone. Welcome to Not Skinny One Offod podcast. Thanks for tuning in. Oh my God, that was a lot, Amanda. It was a lot. You also, like, inside of my ear. You forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:00:44 You wanted to, like, be promoted into, like, a headset. So here you are, and you're complaining. I'm not. So you're not going to shush me now. Okay, okay. No, you're not going to shush me now. I can't. No, but I feel like, okay, go on, go on.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Do not want to have a headset? No, I do. Go. You guys, I don't know. Again, like you've reviewed, you've rated, you've said good things about my co-host, my sister, Ariel, and we both don't get it. I never said I didn't get it. You said you don't get it. I said it's really nice to hear people say nice things about me.
Starting point is 00:01:19 And you said I don't get it. No, I didn't believe it. There's a difference. Not I don't get it. Which is like half modesty, half like for real, though. No, for real. no we don't believe it we don't get it no you maybe you don't get it people like no offense like tried to be like they're like hi arreal like are you like
Starting point is 00:01:37 they were like kind of doing it on purpose to get like a rise out of me that's really mean maybe people just want to say nice things about me first of all they should because you're they don't even know half of how great you are oh you're so cute see you say you don't get it but then you say things like that so i forgive you because like you're annoying 90% of the time It's like that scene in the notebook, 99% of the time, how does it go? You're not going to imitate it right at the feeling. Can you go? Something like, yeah, you annoy me 90% of the time.
Starting point is 00:02:09 99% of the time. 99% of the time. Then you have a two-second rebound rate and you're back to being annoying. But that's what I want. For the rest of my life. You, all of you, forever. That's what he says. Yeah, it's really cute.
Starting point is 00:02:24 Don't you want to watch the notebook now? I do, but not the old people part, because that makes me really sad. I can deal with the love story, like, and cry because it's, like, beautiful, but I don't want to, like, the old people makes me sad. But the most beautiful part is that they die together. I know, but it makes me also, like, too sad to deal. I know, I know. Well, I hope you guys had a great week and a lovely Fourth of July, which, like, I don't know. I really hope for you that you have rich friends and spent it in, like, pools in, like, the Hamptons or wherever.
Starting point is 00:02:56 you live around the world. But I spent it in empty New York, and it was fabulous. You went to a public pool. That wasn't on Fourth of July. I know, but Fourth of July weekend, you went to a public pool. What are you trying to say that I'm poor? You went to a public pool. You know, this weekend, I really said, we start and I can't stand you, and I don't know
Starting point is 00:03:18 what to do. Why? Because what was your point of saying that? I don't know. Public pools are fine, everyone. Enjoy public pools. Like, what are you trying to say? That I was at a somebody's pool and you were at a public pool.
Starting point is 00:03:30 You were in Fish Kiki, New York, in Fuxville. Like, let's be honest for a minute. 10 of you were sleeping on the floor. Like, let's not make you, like, fancy. Tiffany's smart about it. Anyway, don't fret about public pools because sometimes they can be really great. Yeah. So check out a public pool near you, everyone.
Starting point is 00:03:51 We're going to take a quick break and be right back. So I just watched the season finale of the Kardashians yesterday. That's it, we're done. Which I don't, I watch it for the second time because I think I watch it with you and mom for the first time. But if I'm not like watching it and like recapping it for my follow. is on my Instagram, then I don't count, so I had to watch it again. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:30 And this is basically the episode we've all been waiting for, if you might say so. And we did predict, like, five months ago that the season finale is just going to show it all, and then it's going to be it. And then it's going to be it. Season finale, this is it. I mean, listen, Chloe did put herself out there, and we did get a lot of content of her, like, you know, and her real emotions going through it. But, you know, for the most dramatic episode of a season, it wasn't like, you know.
Starting point is 00:05:02 It was like Chloe getting drunk and screaming. And that was basically. Which pissed me off because that in the promos, I got goosebumps every time. And I thought she was like probably fighting with Tristan when they showed it before it came out. And then on the episode, she's drunk and like annoyed and being bitchy. But she laughed after she said, liar. Yeah, but it was really funny to see. I don't think we've ever seen her that drunk on camera.
Starting point is 00:05:27 Like, she was clearly. I don't think I've ever seen any of them that drunk, like maybe in earlier seasons. Yeah. You never see them on camera or unless they're really good drunk. We've never seen them with like a glass of wine. I feel like in this episode you saw like them sitting. They had like a family meeting, which they're all like hair and makeup done and like blah, blah, but whatever. And they and Kendall had like a glass of white wine.
Starting point is 00:05:50 And I was like, I've never seen that. Yeah. So, I mean, it's just so funny in those instances when they had the family meeting that they were all in full hair and makeup. It's like, A, like, most of them will look great without hair and makeup. I know. And I feel like Courtney, the most you see without makeup. Yeah, you see her sometimes without. But sometimes you're just like, how are you comfortable sitting like that with your hair so tight up and your makeup is caked on and just seems like, and I remember I think Courtney said that on one episode where she was like over it.
Starting point is 00:06:21 Like, she was over-filming because, like, she couldn't deal with, like, hair and makeup and, like, all the time. Yeah. Which I could understand. Because even with the, you know, little amount that I put on when I go out, I can't wait to come home and wash it off. I know. It's my favorite part of the night. So could you imagine, like, being like them? Every day.
Starting point is 00:06:38 And it's, like, different kind of makeup. It's, like, eyelash extensions and, like, oh, my God, I can't even. Oh, my God. The eyelash extensions probably hurt, like, a bitch. Yeah. But anyway, so we got to see Chloe's, like, reaction. to it, which was basically like Tristan, it's a piece of shit, but we knew that
Starting point is 00:06:55 but we didn't know that Jordan's a piece of shit. And also we saw her struggle with the social media, because we remember what was going on then. Like, I'd captured all of it on my Instagram. Like, you know, Chloe, first of all, everyone was going wild with it. The media was going wild. Their friends, their family were commenting on
Starting point is 00:07:11 it. And then Chloe was like making Twitter statements and then taking them back and then saying something else and then blaming Jordan but then saying, no, it's actually Tristan's fault. It was all very public. was all very public and you see now behind the scenes of like the struggle that is on its own to worry about social media and blah blah but i totally got her because she got very upset when she heard jordan was going to be in the red table talk yeah she was upset for a couple reasons that made
Starting point is 00:07:36 sense and that was the only scene that looked so real that she just found out she just found out she was like in and out of the car like it just looked so yeah yeah it did and like chris was caught off guard, because Chris, I guess, is in a good relationship with, like, Jada and the Smiths. So, Chloe was like, you didn't tell me. And Chris basically didn't tell her because she knew. Right. And Chloe was so upset about it. And Chloe was upset that Chris didn't use any of her power to shut it down or to give her
Starting point is 00:08:05 two cents or to say, like, to Jada, like, don't have her on. Let's not give her, like, you know, the space to do that. Because I get that it is fucked up that supposedly Jordan didn't. apologize to Chloe before she went on the red table talk. Apologize would not even like be enough, you know? Like she should have been like up her ass. She should have been up for weeks. But I'm saying she didn't even apologize.
Starting point is 00:08:31 And like Kylie was saying that she knew on her own to leave Kylie's house. Like Kylie didn't even have to tell her. And that was another moment of realness from Kylie that she called Kim. And she was, why are you shaking your head? Because that was a real moment. but she didn't even cry for Chloe. And then she's calling, she's really crying for Jordan. No, but it did because, listen, the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:08:55 the Kardashians have to watch their image and everything they put out, like, I'm bitchy all the time on Instagram. I'm not like a bully or I fucking hope I have a line that I don't cross, but I'll make fun of things and I'll, like, be bitchy if I want to. And, you know, and it's with humor and it's fine. They can't, like, joke around like that. You know what I mean? So when Kim posted that video in the car of like, we don't take your man.
Starting point is 00:09:23 Which I remember seeing. Very vividly for summary. Very vividly. I remember exactly. We all thought they were singing to Jordan, which did come off that way. But they were actually, you saw on the show, you know, in the car. Courtney put on her like breakup. Playlis or something.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Ariel and I both were like weirded out to see Courtney like singing. what was that she was like and also a song I don't even know that song or like who it's by or anything no that was weird to see her like lip singing I've never seen her like do that yeah she's like a breakup playlist and I'm like who are you Courtney and then Kim like
Starting point is 00:10:01 put it on Insta story love her and Lars or her and Malika sorry singing and took it down really quick because I guess she realized that it looks sort of like bad but then Kylie also called her and was like let's not be bullies. And I think Kylie was right in that sense because as we all knew, when everything, you know,
Starting point is 00:10:25 came to surface, it was a very like Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, Jordan, everyone against Jordan and put aside the fact that she went up, you know, a million followers, put aside the fact that she probably got more fans and like more people. But a lot, I mean, that's not all that matters. And so many people were talking so much shit and hating on her and bullying her. And whatever she did, however fucked up, she doesn't deserve that public scrutiny of, you know, millions of people. I mean, you know, they're a fucking, one of the most powerful families. It's scary as fuck to be in the wrong with them.
Starting point is 00:10:57 But Chloe was right. Like, she got comfortable, like, too comfortable. Yeah, yeah. Like, living a cut, like, how could you do that to someone who's taking care of you, you know? I don't care if she's taking care of you. your best fucking friend. Yeah, but also think about your whole life, like your best fucking friend that you live with,
Starting point is 00:11:21 that supports you, that her family is like your family. It's just like too weird. It's too weird. But she would like throw that away for like a gross ass man. But like who knows if she was like on drugs? Who knows like what went down? Like what state she was in,
Starting point is 00:11:36 but like why are you with him in the first place? Yeah. And Chloe said in a previous episode that whenever Jordan would have went out and seen Tristan. Yeah, that other times she would be like, yo, I'm here, Tristan's here. Like, don't worry, I got your back like I'm watching out for you.
Starting point is 00:11:53 But again, it's a very, like, gray area of what we know and don't know about where Tristan and Chloe were with the relationship. Because it doesn't seem like they were like a couple. Right. Like, they had their differences. She was still upset with him about the first cheating. He was in Cleveland. She was in L.A.
Starting point is 00:12:10 I'm sure it wasn't like a normal. relationship that you know something was going on at the time too it wasn't a hundo it wasn't a loving you know all in um which isn't an excuse but i have a feeling that's why chloe's reaction to him wasn't as you know she knew she knew he was an asshole she knew he was an asshole i'm sure she tried for her baby she tried but true i mean she's such a she's such a strong lady she's such a strong lady. And I also feel like she's also just such a kind person. She really is. She was like worrying at one point about Tristan because he was really upset. Like who cares? Yeah. Not who cares about him, but just like worry about yourself, you know, like she's going through it. I mean, it's,
Starting point is 00:12:56 when Aaron Foster was here, remember she told us about Kim, that Kim is like still the nicest person. And I think, I think she, you know, also said about all of them. I think somehow, and you do, you know, you don't hear anything really bad about her. how the Kardashians act like you've never and then treat others like i think they do really well by everyone they work with and people that surround them and you know i think that was chloe's uh kind of response like are we fucking too nice like should we be scarier should we be bitchier so people don't cross us motherfucker clow money coming out flow money coming out i mean the thing is like and then another thing came out um when she was screaming on the phone apparently she said like big fat liars or
Starting point is 00:13:40 something and then people thought she was calling Jordan fat and then she was like body shaming her and we're like Chloe who are you to like body shame Jordan when you yourself went through like weight stuff and body stuff and people ask me my opinion on this I didn't even post it because like she obviously meant like big fat liar as in like like a big liar right and it's also like a thing that people say it's a phrase yeah like she didn't mean Jordan was fat um also Jordan got like fitter which we don't realize because in the which another person had said to me where I read somewhere when they showed like flashbacks of Jordan and Kylie they showed her not at her prime yeah yeah so someone was like of course the bitchy Kardashian would throw in like unflattering photos of Jordan um but she did a glow up she did but she also like face tunes her face everywhere on Instagram it's a lot it's a lot. It's a lot. I don't know why I'm still following her again. I don't know either.
Starting point is 00:14:43 You're adding to like 11 million followers. Anyway, so that's it. Thus, the Kardashian season 16, I think, concluded. And now what do you think? How would you think? Like, aside from this drama, was it good? Was it surprising? And I feel like this, no, it wasn't the best season.
Starting point is 00:15:06 We've had, I don't even know how many episodes. What, it's like eight episodes? yeah and like three of them weren't actually interesting do you know like I didn't I didn't feel too connected
Starting point is 00:15:16 to the season at all yeah um listen I'll always watch but yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:15:25 reality TV unfortunately needs to have drama and needs to have um you know storylines and I think that
Starting point is 00:15:36 this season this was the only storyline and it came at the end And other ones seemed sort of like, oh, Kendall and, you know, Courtney fought about some shit or, you know, their trip to this or their trip to this. So, I mean, they're interesting to watch, but till next season. Till next season. In other Kardashian news, so Kim Kardashian was supposed to come out with a shapewear line of kind of like a spandexy thing. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:07 For all shapes and sizes and colors and everything, she named. it kimono which i wasn't even thinking when i saw the name and she came out with it um i i obviously when you hear kimono you think of a fucking kimono um which aryell didn't know what it was i think last uh thanks for pointing that out thank you but it's a you know a japanese cultural wear and it is weird to name you know spandex by kim kim kardashian you know kumono um But she got a lot of backlash and good for her that she came out with a statement this week saying that she acknowledges everyone's reactions and input and she made a mistake. And thus she will be pausing this reveal of this new brand and she'll be coming back with a new name.
Starting point is 00:17:04 So she's pausing it to think of a new name. Yeah, and rebrand. And rebrand. Brown debt. Okay. I mean, like, I don't really get why she needs another, like, project, but sure. Like, are we, like, doing too little? Like, what's happening? I'm working full time isn't enough, but you need, like, I know, but she has a lot of opportunities, but, like, she has a lot going on already. You have a lot going on, like, go your role. KKW, like, isn't that like, the thing is, like, you also, I feel like, it's hard to do too much because then, like,
Starting point is 00:17:37 you need to sort of have your name be associated, I feel like with something. With like one thing. And it's like, oh, Kim's like this line, this line. Then you forget and don't care about it, I feel like. I don't know. Yeah. But I just feel like she's probably doing so well with her KKW beauty and she has the perfume. So like now. She has like the line, the granzania or big an anna. Whatever. She has a perfume out. And then now shapewear, like let's keep it like KKW Beauty come out with new things like Kylie or like you know Chloe is only good American so like I feel like you need to have your thing cornea's pooch speaking of push which I like follow because like I don't mind it sometimes they post like cuty stuff
Starting point is 00:18:23 there were a couple things this week that made me kind of like annoyed slash lull one was a salad and the salad was legit like a cucumber a tomato an avocado in a plate just like sliced, like not even make. That's a good snack, though. It shouldn't be called a salad. It's not a salad. It's a snack. And it's not also a recipe. It's not a recipe. Someone's saying like eat vegetables. No, it's not like a recipe that you make. You say like, there's no like dressing. There was nothing like nothing in it. It was just like cut up egg, cut up a avocado and cut up like tomato. I mean, something like we would eat though. But you don't need to put it out there. Like we know. It's not a, babe, it shouldn't be on any blog as any like we're giving you this
Starting point is 00:19:04 advice so follow us like it's not true and also Celeste barbara the comedian the Australian comedian comedian who imitates people's Instagram photos like models and stuff it's really funny she got pissed that push came out with an article about like how to something about your love handles and it said like how to get rid of your love handles or like we don't love love handle something that was kind of like not too body positive, which, what? I don't agree with it. With what? With, like, hating on that article because every, like, fitness magazine out there
Starting point is 00:19:44 has an article like this. How to get abs. How to get rid of your love handles. If you search it, it's everywhere. Pop Sugar, like, Women's Fitness article. I mean, magazine, whatever it is. So just because Push came out of it, and I feel like associated with the Kardashian, and she's now going to say, like, it's not body positive.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Courtney's like, blah, blah, blah. But, like, no, you can, people want to read how to, like, get rid of their love handles. Maybe that's something that they're, you know, self-conscious about. So why is that? I don't think everything needs to be so body positive. Don't you agree? Yeah, I mean, I myself post a lot of things about body stuff, as you know. And I'll be like skinny, not skinny, eating, like food, want to be skinny.
Starting point is 00:20:28 And, like, with every post like that, I'll see, like, a couple comments that are like, and, like, I'm like, A, take a joke. Like, I'm joking, you know, like, A, I'm joking. B, let's be honest that all of us, like, have an inner, most of us want to be thinner, want to look better, want to be at our best, want to look our best, like, and that's fine. And I think, you know, we've talked about this a lot in other podcasts, like, people should accept themselves and love themselves and obviously not strive to be, you know, Amoretta.
Starting point is 00:21:00 No, but people can have areas that they want to work on. Right. And if you work on it in a healthy way and work out in a healthy way, I think maybe Celeste was just talking about the way it was worded, like love your love handles or, but yeah, Push is not going to be the place to say, like, be fat and love it. That's, you know, she's trying to, like, talk about, like, healthy food and, you know, detoxing and like you know staying in great shape so that's what a lot of her articles are about no yeah that's what i'm saying yeah so it's not going to say like love your fat like that's not the
Starting point is 00:21:34 vibe of the page no it's kind of like a healthy like fitness like it's just like a healthy lifestyle blog yeah so but corny looks great and she herself goes up and down and has times that she's you know uh thinner and uh you can see times where she's like allowing herself a little more, which I personally like to see. I love, yeah. She's looking like normal. And also, everyone knows I love her body. I love her for being kind of the most normal looking Kardashian.
Starting point is 00:22:06 Yeah. She, I mean, not kind of. She is the most normal looking at Kurdishian. Like if you look at the creature of the sea, Kylie, then you'll know what I mean. No, because it's like a normal thing to look at. They all look like creatures of the sea except for Corny. Cornyn, you can tell like her body is her body. Like maybe she does a little bit of that, a little bit of this.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I don't even, I don't, the thing is, like, you see Chloe and how sweet she is and how, like, her she is. So I don't want to, like, ever make fun of it makes me, like, feel bad if I ever pose something. But, you know, I saw a picture of her the other day where legit she has a Michael Jackson nose. It's starting to look like a Michael Jackson nose. And I don't know. You know what? Mom noticed it, too. Really?
Starting point is 00:22:43 Stop. I can't believe you said that. I didn't notice it. Mom noticed it. Mom said Michael Jackson knows. Oh, my God. I'm having a flashback. Like, from last episode, Mom was walking.
Starting point is 00:22:53 watching and she was like, what's happening with the nose? So it wasn't even from last episode, some pictures she put up, and I don't know if it's makeup, and I don't know what it is. I, like, hope that it's not, like, surgical trying to get, like, because if you remember, Chloe had a big nostrils, she had, like, wider nostrils. Yeah, she had, wide nostrils. And it's sad, you know, for these people living in California and Los Angeles and Hollywood, like, the pressure of, like, okay, you have a good nose, but it has.
Starting point is 00:23:23 has to be like thin and it has to be this and it has to be that and has to be thinner and your nostrils need to be thinner and your lips need to be wider and your wrinkles can't be it's like you know I as much as I don't like the Botox and all those things I also feel bad for people that feel the pressure from such a young age to like look perfect or something but then they end up looking less like beautiful than they were before like almost 100% I would say like would look better without all of that intervention they would but the thing is I think that the people that go overboard are the ones that like kind of lose themselves and don't look anything like themselves and if you do a little bit to like let's say Chloe want like a little bit
Starting point is 00:24:08 okay but once you go overboard and you hit the level that their Kardashians have gone to it starts to look a little bit like unnatural and that's when it's not that attractive when it looks unnatural it looks unnatural yeah I was watching they did like a throwback for Chloe's birthday with like Lamar and she was so cute like her ass was already done then but the thing is like you guys forget like Chloe like people used to say that she's like the big Kardashian the fact her she was never really like fat she was she's just the tallest she was the tallest so she looked kind of like big but her aren't like she she I saw the flashback episode with Lamar and she looked great and like obviously her nose today is in the same nose and like she's so done up
Starting point is 00:24:50 today and so like, you know, plastic. And I feel like it just sometimes doesn't go with the personality because she is like, you know, so sweet and so kind and so that I can't, it just doesn't add up for me. But that's that for the Kardashians. And we'll be right back with more. I also caught up on The Bachelorette yesterday. Bachelnation say what? Oh my God. Oh, oh, oh my God. Well, welcome back.
Starting point is 00:25:33 Yeah, I know. It took me like a bit. Thank you guys that follow me on Instagram for never like hating on me for being late to the game. Like I never get like, you're just now like posting about this shit because I think I'm doing, you know, a good job of trying to bring, you know, recap. for people. There are so many people that don't watch, that watch it through my stories or that like seeing the commentary. So I get to things, sometimes a little late, but I got to the last episode of The Bachelorette where the four guys for hometowns were chosen. Yep. Peter, the pilot, Pete, Tyler C, the Hollywood. Patrick Swayze. Okay. Legit.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Luke P. and Jet. In this episode, she, told Jed that she's falling in love with him and he's the only one that she told that to which is kind of a big deal yeah I mean you can tell that she is the most into Jed what are you so into like A like I know you guys like literally I'm gonna say it he's like a struggling musician
Starting point is 00:26:37 like do you not want to like have a good life Hannah no put everything aside like love is love love is love don't you want to like be with someone who's like kind of self-made life from Instagram or from whatever right so they don't have to worry about that. No, but she does. You want to make, I feel like you want to meet someone that you're going to marry who's like already kind of built himself up. Let's forget about his,
Starting point is 00:26:59 his job. Like, I haven't found him like as attractive as I did in the beginning of the season. Because we know shit about him. Yeah, but like at the same time, like Peter to me is a lot more attractive and or Tyler, Luke obviously not, but Peter or Tyler are so cute. Yeah, Tyler is so much Cuter than Jed. So, yeah, but you can tell that she's the most into Jed. She doesn't mean that she's into Jed because of what he looks like. She likes everything as to offer. No, but I'm talking about they're also really cute personality-wise.
Starting point is 00:27:31 Yeah. Not even looks-wise. Yeah. How old is Jed? Jed is 27, I think. Peter is 27 and Tyler might be like 25 or 26. Tyler is 25. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:44 And I think Luke is like also like 24. Luke is like something young too. Ugh, stupid-ass Luke. The producers are having a field day with him. No, the producers are having her keep him on. You think? Oh, of course. Every episode, it's like,
Starting point is 00:27:58 Dun, dun, dun, do Luke? Every episode, it's like, literally like. And how do you choose Luke over Garrett? I'm sorry. How do you choose, like, Luke over Mike? Oh, true. And like, but it was so hard for her to let go of Mike because I think she just knows how wonderful of a person he is.
Starting point is 00:28:15 And she was, like, crying. And she's like, it's because of the paintings. And I'm like, what is wrong with you? No, that was like a really weird moment. It was so weird. I think she was just realizing like where she's at, the fact that she's going to hometown that she picked four finals. And again, like, we know right now the shit that's gone down with Jed and like his girlfriend and blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:28:36 Imagine she's like so in love with him, has no idea, thinks he's this great guy. Like, and imagine now knowing what she knows. And again, we don't know who she picked and blah, blah, blah. but I'm waiting to get to IRL time so we know like how that shit played out. I know. Yeah. I mean like I know the scoop about the whole season,
Starting point is 00:28:56 but like you swore me not to tell you. And also none of my listeners want to know either. I know, I know, I know. Okay, no spoilers here, ladies and gentlemen. Only things that I've aired already, we talk about. So stop making eyes at me and like trying to be weird, you freak. I don't want to know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:29:14 And listeners don't want to know either. No, I don't want to say it here. I want to say it to you. Don't, but I don't want to hear it. I'm going to watch it. We're going to get it like all played out. We're going to know everything. But yeah, the coming scenes for next week, which wait, this will be out Tuesday.
Starting point is 00:29:28 So Monday. So it'll be Monday. But that she says to Luke like, I had sex and Jesus still loves me. Right. But she also says, I fucked in a windmill. Like she literally is like, yeah, I fucked in a windmill. And you know what? It was so good.
Starting point is 00:29:43 I fucked two times. Like, that's how she talked, which is very, like, on Hannah-y. Well, no, she has this image that she portrays, and it's probably, like, you know, like, she portrays a certain image, and then, like, sometimes another image comes out. But, like, do you remember her being so horny on Colton season? Hell no. No, she was not. Like, I don't remember them, like, having such, like, sex appeal.
Starting point is 00:30:04 No, but they don't, like, usually. Well, A, I don't think Colton has sex appeal, so. Usually they don't have sex until the fantasy suites, so it's, like, very unbatchel. I mean, Caitlin Bristow had sex. That was the only time, and Caitlin Bristow was like 10 years ago. A, and B, another thing that's weird, aren't the Bachelor or Bachelorette's not allowed to say how they feel? They are usually, no, but they're a lot, if they tell multiple people. So like if she tells, right, so that's that I've never seen.
Starting point is 00:30:34 Like, I remember in Ben Higgins season, he told Lauren and Jojo. Right. But they probably told him you have to tell Jojo because then we'll know you choose Lauren. But she didn't tell anyone. Yeah, so that's really weird. I'm sure next episode, like you'll see that she tells another person. I see. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:30:49 But, yeah, I used to think that was a big bachelor no-no to, like, reveal how you feel. Yeah, no, you're allowed to say if you tell multiple people. You know the rules. No, I feel like I've read an article about this, actually, because, like, it makes sense. Yeah. It makes sense. Yeah. But so hometowns, Monday, we'll have the scoop for that next week.
Starting point is 00:31:13 But so far, so good with the season, I think. Yeah, more entertaining than Colton season, for sure. A, like, no sex appeal for Colton. Like, I can't, because when I was trying to picture of Hannah, like, was all over him, I was like, no, but it makes sense because, like, he's not, like, she's like a teddy bear. I don't know. He's like a cute teddy bear, though. Don't hate on Colton.
Starting point is 00:31:32 I can't. I'm sorry. Don't hate on him. At least him and Cassie haven't done anything annoying this week. I mean, he kind of did post something annoying. He always does, but at least just that. He posted something of her and her sister and like matching outfits and put a pole up like, is it cute or is it like so cute? And I'm like, hey, like, shut up.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Did you see that? I did. I didn't read the poll though. No, but like A like, like ew and also like, ew. I'm like what must you? Must you. Must you. Must you.
Starting point is 00:32:05 And her and her ads, like I know I've said this before that I'm not going to mock it because she's the one making all this money. She's hustling. She's hustling. They're doing cameo together. They're like hustling, hustling. She's selling all this shit. And I can't take any of it seriously. But like I said, last time we're all following and we're all into this relationship.
Starting point is 00:32:25 I'm probably buying whatever she's selling. So whatever the fuck, you guys. I'm Betty and Bitterland today. But you know what I have noticed. Kailen and Jason are like have simmered like down with the. Social media? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:44 Yeah. In a good way. Can I teach you a podcast rule? What? Okay. When you mention people, try to say like, say Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tartig from The Bachelor, so everyone knows who you're talking about. Okay. Caitlin Bristow and Jason Tartig from the Bachelor have simmered down with her new ramen noodle doodle.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Which, like, is so cute. So, cute. No, it is really cute. And what's ugh? Like, I want him. What's ugh? Like, ugh. Like U-G-H.
Starting point is 00:33:14 Isn't that U-S. Use your Israelisness. Did you just say Ugg? Yeah, I said U. People say Ugg? I think people say Ugg. Oh my God. They're so American.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Oh, my God. Ew. I've never heard you say Ugg. I think it's like a new thing that I say. From now? Yeah, like I've said it the past three days. Why don't you say Uch? Ugh.
Starting point is 00:33:36 Sorry, Uck. Ah! Yeah. Anyway, so the ramen is really cute. But you go rescue a fucking dog from China. No, I'm like, ship him here and a plane. Like, take care of them. No, they are cute.
Starting point is 00:33:53 And, like, I did go through a hater role on Caitlin, but I think that's when she was, like, more annoying. And she's less. And she's less annoying now. I also saw today she posted a lot of pictures and videos with her and some baby. I don't know. They were, like, with family. And it sits good on her.
Starting point is 00:34:07 Like, she should have a baby. I think she's going to be a great mom. Yeah. She's cute. See, guys, things change, people change. Feelings change. You know what else hasn't changed. Wait, what's happening in Hollywood?
Starting point is 00:34:23 Oh, God. What? What hasn't changed? No, I'm trying to do a thing. Transition. Yeah, to the hills. Oh, okay. Yeah, so episode two.
Starting point is 00:34:35 I didn't watch it. You didn't watch it? No, I thought you did. No, not episode two. What was on episode two? I don't know. I didn't watch it. I thought you know.
Starting point is 00:34:43 I did watch it and I did put it up. It was actually good. I'm actually very surprised by the hills. I wasn't expecting anything when it first came out. And I wasn't even 100% sure that I'd watch it. But let's be honest, like I know I was going to watch it. But again, like, I think the main themes are like, why the fuck did Brody get married? Because he won't stop talking about the fact that he like hates being married and like,
Starting point is 00:35:09 doesn't get it and like blah blah blah and then he kind of like alluded to the fact that him and katelyn have like an open marriage or like i don't know dude it was weird did he actually allude to it yeah he was in an interview and he was like you know kately and i like you know have threesomes have a lot of fun uh if you know what i mean like we we do we do things i don't want to get too into it but no i'm really not into this marriage at all. But it's true, but then a follower sent me and then I read more about that he has alluded to it before that they like bring people into the bedroom. Okay, good for them. Yeah. I mean, first of all, if that's their prerogative, but I think it seems like
Starting point is 00:35:55 he is a fuck boy. But why get married if you like then have threesomes and don't get married? I don't know why he got married, you know, like, but if, but like he found himself like somebody that's also like into that if that happens i don't think so i mean from my like therapist like view of like how i would dissect the situation is like she's probably going along with whatever he wants because she like is into brodie and listen he's a haiti patadi he had had he had had power in like hollywood i don't know why the bitch married him like i don't know why she decided to be with him but he's obviously like he's clearly still 16 years old and he and he and he he like, you know, he's so jealous of like other people being single and in like nightlife
Starting point is 00:36:43 and blah, blah, blah. It seems like he misses that a lot and again, doesn't know why he got married and, but then he'll say something like, yeah, I love being at home with my wife and my dog, but like you don't believe it and, um, and yeah, but then I kind of went more therapist, Amanda and remembered like who his dad is. And he also talked about his dad a little bit and said that, you know, growing up, Bruce wasn't there at all. And anything like game, um, you know, you know, basketball, baseball games on that birthday, not this or that. And then when they finally kind of rekindled things, he, uh, became Caitlin.
Starting point is 00:37:17 And now Caitlin is like for herself, living her own life as we know. And I mean, that'll fuck you up. And you know what? That made me think a lot about Caitlin, aka Bruce Jenner, that really when she, when he became she, he did like kind of like the, Bruce was always like, whatever you would say about him, but he was a good father. But he wasn't a good father to his other kids. That's a thing. So I guess he always had it
Starting point is 00:37:44 in him to like not be also. Because if you think about it, he was so there with the Kardashians. Like I, again, when I watched the flashback of Lamar and Chloe, like, he was crying over Chloe's engagement. He like was so part of every step of everything. He was like their dad.
Starting point is 00:38:00 She called, like, he was such a family man within the Kardashians, which if you think about it, they probably made him because they're so like familial and they're so like close net. Yeah. But he wasn't like that to his other family. I would kind of like resent the whole situation if I was Brody Branden.
Starting point is 00:38:17 They did. You know? They 100% did and probably do. And now that he's Caitlin, that she is Caitlin, she is living her life. Like she feels like I've been Bruce. I was like, you know, like stuck in a way. Stuck in a way. And now I'm living my life.
Starting point is 00:38:36 So from an outsider's perspective, Obviously, I don't know the whole truth, but I do know the Kardashians are fed up with her. I do know the Kardashians barely talk to her, don't want to invite her or anything. I don't know how Kendall and Kylie feel. You can tell how Brody feels. And, I mean, that'll fuck you up as like Brody. And also just like, you know, Caitlin should, you know, take a little bit from Bruce and try to be like a better dad to all of her, like, 700 kids that he,
Starting point is 00:39:08 she produced, whatever. Aside from Brody, Misha Barton, joined the cast and she is, she's a real one, I feel like. She really is a real one. Yeah. She's a real one. She confronted Perez because apparently Perez Hilton used to bully her when he, you know, he still has his sight, but back when she was like in the, you know, a highlight of Hollywood, he used to kind of like mock her skinniness and talk about drug use, I think, and all this shit. Or like, If she gained weight, he was very, like, on top of her shit. She said that it almost felt like he had it out for her.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah. So she confronted him at, like, Stephanie's welcome party, which was kind of like, obviously a party that was thrown for the show. And obviously Perez was invited for Misha. Like, we all know this. We can move on. They're trying to create some drum, drum. But she confronted him, like, very, very nicely.
Starting point is 00:40:05 And I like her. I like her. then there's a Stephanie and Spencer drama, which you don't either always was, though. Always was, and you don't really know. You're like, okay, your brother and sister and you, like, kind of hate each other. Like, what? I told you to watch the after show. I didn't, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:20 I didn't, though. You have to. It's, you can, like, feel the tension. Like, I was cringing. I was cringing. I need to watch it. You have to watch it. It's basically, like, Spencer is pretending like everything's okay.
Starting point is 00:40:31 And Stephanie's, like, it's fucking not okay. Like, we hate each other. I would take her so much more seriously if she wasn't, like, and had to be. a new phase. I know, I know. But in the after show, she seemed real and Spencer, obviously, just doesn't want to talk about it. I put up a poll, are you team Spencer, team Stephanie? And 70% said Stephanie.
Starting point is 00:40:49 Because I'm telling you watch the after show. But that's probably not. People probably know. Maybe 70% said Stephanie. That's insane. That's a big amount. Then we have the Justin Bobby and Audrina storyline, which like Justin Bobby. What a snack.
Starting point is 00:41:05 But like, I kind of hate him. I don't. I hate the way he. speaks he's pulling the same shit on adrina again because like he's like adrina like let's go to this like uh festival and then literally he's like calls her and he's like take an uber here and she's like is he fucking kidding like he can't pick me up um and that a felt sort of real and sort of like jess and bobby's pulling the same shit again oh i don't like him and also he pulled up to stephanie's house which mark my words you guys there's going to be some like love
Starting point is 00:41:36 triangle because for some reason he's like really nice to Stephanie and he's like coming over to like see how she is which is obviously part of like probably the script but yeah he pulls up to her in like a Ford Fusion in a Ford Fusion it was so random though I love that I don't he needs to be on a Harley motorcycle no he does but wait do you remember when there was a rumor which maybe it was product placement Stephanie was dating um somebody from the bachelor Who was she dating? Oh, I don't know. Do you remember?
Starting point is 00:42:09 No. Yes, it happened. No, I don't know. Okay. I'm going to find out. Okay, find out. And, you know, he comes over and he consoles her and he tells her about how he lived in a treehouse in Nicaragua without a cell phone. And I was just like, you would, J. Bob, you would.
Starting point is 00:42:27 But it was like, rando. And then all of a sudden, they show another person. And I'm like, who is this person? And like, I had no idea. I was like, oh, they're bringing in, like, another Misha Barton, another character on the show. And it was Jason, Lauren Conrad's ex, who grew up the galore, has a wife and a baby, is super bougied out. Like, again, he went through, like, rehab and all this shit and is, like, probably, like, sober today. It was very surprising to see him.
Starting point is 00:43:00 I did not recognize him. so yeah that's basically the episode in a nutshell yes speak who was definitely dating Derek Peth really yeah yeah Derek Peth but they they're not together anymore I don't think so but he was such he's a nice guy he dated that girl Taylor yeah but that's they they were like seen together and they went on dates oh that's nice yeah yeah that's random no very random yeah very very Very random. Anyway, you know what else I finished this week. What'd you finish?
Starting point is 00:43:39 I mean, I didn't finish. I did finish, but I still have the reunions. Fanderpump rules. I mean, I'm not really sure what I've done to you, but I'll take a Pino Grigio. Oh my God, I know. Which you forgot about, you kind of, I didn't. It's just been slower. But I'm almost on season seven.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So I took a baby hiatus because I didn't want it to end. like literally I had two more episodes at like 20 and 21 and I was like waiting to watch them and then what happened to me was that they are not on Bravo anymore they are not on demand anymore and I had to pay for them or my older sister had to pay for them on Amazon I was like whatever I won't change the payment method purchase but I mean it's one of those things that you're like obviously it's worth the like $10 those episodes cost me but it's like you kind of cheap out on it. You're like, this should be free. It should be free. I don't know why it's not free.
Starting point is 00:44:36 It's annoying. But I had to, I had to like finish, finish the season. And I did. I finished the season. I started the reunions. And I put up, you know, on my story on Instagram, but I was just like, there you are. Lover. There you are. I feel like the reunions are almost better than the actual show. First of all, hell yeah. There are. Yeah. And because I think like on the, on the two last episodes I was sort of like I needed like a pick me up I was like what's happening
Starting point is 00:45:07 this is kind of like chilling out too much or like showing too much drama that's kind of like less interesting and then the reunion comes and you're like butta bam but boom
Starting point is 00:45:17 and it's real and it's so real so yeah the reunions are better I'm on season six reunion right now but season seven reunion which was later the shit that goes down you guys like legit like first of all like james we all know everyone wants to murder him and like
Starting point is 00:45:38 hates him and you kind of feel bad because you're like you know people have done such shitty things like jacks did shitty things and everyone forgave him and what happens with james is the minute you start feeling bad for him he makes you not feel bad for him because he just becomes an asshole he doesn't know how to not be defensive which i'm sure is hard when 17 people are coming at you but what happens is like you're like I feel bad for him I feel bad for him or like why is Jack saying this to him or why is so and so like not nice to him and then he'll like just spew angry mean disgusting shit and you're like no like don't prove everyone right right um so there was a lot of that a lot of that at the reunion a lot of shit went down basically the only people
Starting point is 00:46:26 that are still like cool with him or tom and Ariana and then they get shit for being cool with them because Jackson and Brittany are like, why are you cool with them? Or defending him, like, you're in our wedding. And that was kind of like high school shit. I was like, don't not let them be cool with them. Like, you don't like them. Be cool with whoever they want to.
Starting point is 00:46:45 Yeah, yeah. You guys don't all have to hate the same person. Yeah. And Stacey and Bo are so cute. And I'm sure they're going to get engaged, which, like, one of my followers said, she's probably waiting for, like, Britney's wedding to happen.
Starting point is 00:47:00 And then Lala's, so she doesn't want to, she wants, like, to have her light sort of thing. And she doesn't want, you know. Yeah, yeah. But then. But Lala's is next year. Oh, it is? I think it's, like, next April. So it's kind of like a little bit away.
Starting point is 00:47:14 Oh, shit. She can still get engaged in the middle and then, like, have her light. She'll get engaged soon. They're so cute. He's so into her. He loves her so much. Like, she found her person. No, that's definitely her person.
Starting point is 00:47:26 Which is so cute. I know. They really are. And they need to start, like, popping out babies. Like someone needs to have a vander baby. When do you think that's going to happen? I mean, Katie probably is going to be first. Sandy, like, Ariana doesn't want to have a baby,
Starting point is 00:47:39 so we don't know what's going to happen with that. And they're never going to get married. And she doesn't want to get married to him either, which, like, I really like Ariana, but then I remember that. And I'm sort of like, why can't you like do that for him? So much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:53 Anyway, we're going to take a last break and come right back. So this week we also had the crazy-ass Taylor Swift drama, which I was on like a hawk. Like I was reading that shit. I could have like major right now and like music law. No legit I can. But the reason why I'd delve. Scott for Shuto. Scott for Shuto.
Starting point is 00:48:27 Literally, I was reading so much about it because I was. I think when Taylor Swift, if you guys don't know the story, she came out with a post writing that, you know, all of her music. She doesn't own it. And she was kind of saying that Scooter Braun, you know, bullied her. And now he owns her music because he merged with her previous record label, big something record, big sound machine or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. with Scott prosciutto Borchetta
Starting point is 00:49:00 Borchetta so I was like wait what Taylor like who Justin Bieber scooter like who are you talking about what are you doing so then I delve deeper
Starting point is 00:49:08 and deeper into it and also laid it down to my Instagram so if you guys just listen to the podcast be sure to also follow on Instagram and not skinny
Starting point is 00:49:16 but not fat why are you smiling you want them to follow you too no no I mean you're private I know okay and promoting myself
Starting point is 00:49:26 this episode I'm always promoting myself. No, just because I give all the tea and news there as well. It complements the podcast really well. But anyway, so mad drama about this, basically, you know, it is upsetting for Taylor that the music that she had written and created up till leaving the management of Scott Borsheta, which was a big sound machine, I think.
Starting point is 00:49:56 But so, but Scooter. Big Machine Records, I'm sorry. So Big Machine Records and Taylor were together for years. Yeah. And basically, she left them already. And in her contract of leaving them, I'd said that basically if she goes with them, that she can own the music, slowly, slowly. Or there was some constituent, like, as to how.
Starting point is 00:50:19 But if she leaves, she's going to lose ownership of her masters. And she decided to leave anyway. and basically say that she's, you know, she has no choice. She's going on a new road and at the Universal, I think, she signed with, and that she's going to own her music there and whatever. But what she got so upset about is that Scooter Braun merged with Big Machine Records, which means that Scooter, who is her arch nemesis, because... But why?
Starting point is 00:50:46 That I don't understand. Why is he her arch nemesis? Yeah, why does she hate him? She hates him. Apparently, he bullied her. Apparently, that I didn't really understand. Like, they've had... past issues where she felt like he bullied her and like on social media or like came for her
Starting point is 00:51:01 or like but Scott but he was never like her manager he was never like associated with her no okay that's a thing that she's upset that he merged with big machine and by that happening he owns her catalog which imagine like your arch nemesis imagine like all your shit is with someone and you've accepted that but now your arch nemesis merges with that someone and owns your shit. That's what broke her. Yeah. But again, it's all in the contract.
Starting point is 00:51:33 And, you know, reading more and more about it, most music, most artists don't own their shit. And there's so much that goes into like music management and music law and the contracts and everything. And it sucks that when you sign something, when you're 15, you're fucked with it for life, you know, in any kind of like industry. But basically, what I didn't like. like about Taylor is that she always like airs her shit you know what I mean she's always like no I got
Starting point is 00:52:02 bad blah and they mean it's the like now she's cool with katie perry but she's like starting this and like she always like outs her you always know you always know that she has beef and like why do you mean beef you're like a country like she had beef with Kanye and beef with kim and like squash the beef tete and maybe not on social media and then obviously they're artists that side with her and then their artists that side with her and then they're artists that side with the scooter and then it creates this whole like thing and then people were saying that her new album is coming out so maybe it was actually just like a promotion for a new album.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Well, because the last line said like promoted her like new song. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And she's done this before I feel like it happened when she had mad drama going on and she really is also like an advertising promotion whiz if you notice like for every song that comes out she does like something huge
Starting point is 00:52:54 and she fucking plants Easter eggs around the world and like I don't know what the fuck she does She's like Did that happen? Did she happen? Did she do with like Easter eggs? I didn't really get him.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Actually one of her good friends Camia Cabello. Camia Cabello. I love her. She's so cute. Yeah. Nana. So anyway, so she and Sean Mendez
Starting point is 00:53:17 who came out with a new song Signorita together are apparently dating. No, I like want them to get married I didn't have kids, like, this second. No, but he's 20. He's not 20. He's 20.
Starting point is 00:53:29 No, he's not. You're doing that thing again? Yeah, I'm doing the thing again. He's 20. He's older. He's 20. Okay. If not, like, 19.
Starting point is 00:53:37 No, he's not. He's older. 20. 20. I feel like he's probably. 20. 20. 20.
Starting point is 00:53:42 20 years old. 20 years old. He's 20 years old. I hate that you don't believe me. Old. He's turning 21 August 8th. Oh, wow. So there's that.
Starting point is 00:53:54 And how old is Camilla? Cabello? I think 22. Oh, so she's a little bit older. So, like, this is probably not going to be a lifelong thing. Probably not getting married now. Very upsetting. She's 22.
Starting point is 00:54:05 Okay. Yeah. But they're super cute. Enjoy while at last. Wait, I didn't realize she was 22. She's so young. Everyone's so young. I thought she was really, like, 26.
Starting point is 00:54:15 No. Wow. Even though, like, Taylor Swift is, like, 30, right? Taylor Swift is 27. She's 27? Yeah. Selena Gomez is 26. Demi Lovato is 26.
Starting point is 00:54:25 I mean, finally, people are growing the fuck up. But, like, I didn't realize Sean Mendez was 20 and she's 22. 20. Shit. Yeah. So it's not, okay. It's not for lives's. Not for livesays.
Starting point is 00:54:37 All right. Miley Cyrus has been crazy lately, as we've talked about in previous podcast. But, like, you know, I put up some video of her, like, just like onstage, like, moaning and groaning, humping like the air. And, like, you know, if it was sexy, fine. if it was like a turn on for people fine but like to me i just felt like what is she doing no she goes through stages in life she goes through stages and like she had the stage of like um you know that she'd be naked everywhere and bring like a penis like a i don't know she had such
Starting point is 00:55:10 weird phases and like and you're always like thinking like what's you who is you but remember she came out with malibu and she was all of a sudden like country but that's what i'm saying so you come out like one day or this one day who are you who are are you. Who are you? Like, who are you? Yeah, you always wonder, like, what Liam Hemsworth thinks. When she came out with Malibu, she's like, I don't need weed. Like, I'm not smoking. I'm not, and it's always, it's always so extreme. It's like, who is Miley Cyrus? Like, what's going on? So, I mean, my mother's daughter, I think the song is called is actually good. Yeah, it is. All her promotion of it and all of the, like, just like, extremely provocative.
Starting point is 00:55:48 Like touching herself. Touching herself. And it's just like a bit. bit much. Yeah. It's a bit much. Agreed. I just want to know the real, my life. I know. I feel like it's like this country girl that is trying to remain on a healthy, good
Starting point is 00:56:04 path and not be, you know, a product of fucked up Disney stars. And she's like holding at the freaking, you know, last. Before she crosses the line. That's what it feels like. Mercury is in retrograde and it's starting now and it's freaking me the fuck out. I don't know. people sent that to me. Really?
Starting point is 00:56:24 Yeah. Again. I can't deal with mercury. Like, you're going to be like crazy again. Not like you have been pretty like insane lately. But we're dealing with them. Unconditional love. Unconditional love.
Starting point is 00:56:36 Unconditional love. I hope that I have your unconditional love, you guys, as well. Thank you so much for listening to us this week again on the not skinny but not fat podcast. Please do rate and review the podcast. A lot of you have done that. Thank you so much for listening and doing that. Thank you to the Podglomerate Network for producing and editing my show.
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