Not Skinny But Not Fat - TYLER CAMERON IS A SPECIAL FORCE

Episode Date: November 7, 2023

Once a Bachelorette contestant, Tyler became an overnight sensation, even dating the likes of Gigi Hadid! What we didn't know was that Tyler was sleeping on a bean bag chair while he was chatting up Serena Williams out on the town. We get into how he got chosen for The Bachelorette, if he really would have married Hannah Brown, what went down after the show, what his DMs look like and more!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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friends in your living room. Tyler Cameron's here. What's up? What's up? What's up? A few things we talked about before we started. because I feel like those are the most interesting things. I asked who's pants are tighter? Mine. Okay. Who got hair and makeup between the two of us, if you guys had to guess? Guilty.

But you don't even need it. No, you wanted something funny? What? When I was... It took a while. No, it wasn't that long. When I got here, like, happened through hair and makeup, I was like, damn, Amanda's got a bougie-ass show.

They do hair and makeup. And then I realized it was my own hair and makeup for Fox. I was like, oh, shit. Yeah, I mean, you woke up like this. You know? Yeah, I guess, yeah. Did she do your hair? She did my hair.

Okay. It was pretty much like that, though, when you got here. And another thing I told you before we started is, thank you for removing the mustache. Yes, yes. You didn't like that? It creeped you out a little bit. I'm not anti-mustaches in general. I think that you specifically look better without it.

Okay. Do you agree? Yeah. I'm a clean cut, way better. Why is it every dude's dream to have a mustache at some point in their lives? I think it's just like being rebellious. Like, I wanted to, you know, really stick it to my people. you know I got a mustache who's the people you know like my agents and managers and stuff like that

people that are that are always like you need to be this and then I'm like no mustache mullet so the mullet how that happened I had like a three week two week race period why I didn't have to do anything so I was like I'm gonna cut my hair off because I could finally cut my hair off and then I gave myself a mullet and then my agents were like if you're going to go back into like society on TV you should have a clean cut again yeah I was like all right Fine. You know what I think, why I think you do it? Because you're like the hottest guy in America. Stop. So you're kind of like, how ugly can I try to be and still see if the girls are going to be all over me? I was doing it already with the long hair. Yeah. You were like, my hair is messed up. This mustache is, you know, grimy. Here's this mullet. You all still want me.

Well, I feel like the mullet is having a moment right now. Kyle did it from Summerhouse. I don't know, Kyle. Okay. Oh, you would, I feel like vibe with him. Okay. He had a mullet. It wasn't that bad.

Yeah, some people were doing it. Yeah, I feel like moments have his moments. I was like, you know what? You can't do it. I can finally grow my hair out and do it. I don't think it's for you. No. You have to have a specific look and you have that heart-throbby look.

That doesn't go with the mullet. That's why you're trying to rebel. You're trying to rebel. Mm-hmm. Against the heart-throbbing thing. I'm a rule follower. Yeah, you like do it for two days and then you're like, okay, I'm sorry, guys. I'm sorry. I'll cut it off. So another thing that you posted about recently was there's some controversy about whether or not you have your, your dick pierced.

Yeah. How'd that even come about? You know, so I didn't even approve of the video. Wait, to who? Who takes these videos and is zooming on in? My videographer. Okay. So is it a boy or girl? Who knows? Who knows? Okay. Because the video. is zooming on in. Yeah.

Yeah. They're getting in there. They're getting in there. Is that per your request? Sweat is just dropping. Sweat is dropping on them. I'm letting them be creative. Okay.

You're not directing the shoot. No, no. You're just doing your thing. I'm just working out. You're working out. Okay, but then you're like, you see the edit. You post it. I didn't see the edit.

You didn't see the edit. If you look at the caption, it says, because it was, it was a day we were doing Press for Fox for the premiere. And if you see the caption says, Tyler is working right now. but I don't want to leave you guys hanging here's another video oh my god love the videographer you could have gotten mad though or no you don't care about it you don't actually care no and then you know I saw some comments about it I was like oh it's not that bad but then it became a thing like TikTok

always takes things to the next level Instagram is like PG yeah TikTok's right at it are when it comes to comments yeah and TikTok was taking to the next level what's some of the wildest comments you saw in that video uh I mean it looked at me it winked at me it's pierced all these things I don't know we can we have to dig them up So I was like, you know, I was sitting at my uncle's house and I was like, and the idea came up. I was like, I'm going to play with this. Yeah. I remember this video, the old lady.

And she's like, comes out in the pants. Oh, that was funny because I didn't know what to expect. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh, this will go well. And so we put it together and it did well. Are we going to keep this up? Are we going to tell the people though if it's peers or not?

Should we break the news? Do you want to break it? Yeah. Breaking news right here, you guys. Should I try and clanging on the, I'm just kidding. It's not Pierce. It's not Pierce. No.

Would you? Never. Would you get your nips pierce? No. Okay. I wouldn't get a tattoo, let alone a piercing. You wouldn't get a tattoo? No.

Not even of a rose? Nope. Why it rose? Because you run the bachelor. No. Roses are dead to me. Roses are dead? Yes.

I brought you roses. You're good. You can keep it. Okay. Damn. Okay. Are you going to open an only fans? No.

Okay. No. I feel like. I'm for the people, free content only. I know, but imagine you did. Yeah. How much money? That's all right.

So much money. Okay. So what you give? You get back more in the world, you know? That's true. Let's let's go back. Let's go back. What year was it when we first met you on Hannah Brown season of the bachelor? Is it 2019 or 2020?

I think it's 2020? No. 2019. Yeah. So we were first introduced to Tyler Cameron. Do you remember how that opportunity came about? Were you seeking an out? So sort of.

I was a broke jock doing construction. I remember your video. I asked you before we said. You were like dancing in that. in that empty. Well, I told the producer, I was almost a dance minor in college. They're like, no way. So let me see a move.

So I bust out a mean pirouette back in the day. And in front of all the producers were really a dance minor in college? That was like two classes away. Oh, damn. Guys, cheat code become a dance minor. It's you and 30 girls in a class. It's amazing. Wait, is that why you did it?

Well, that's how I found love with it. That's okay. Yeah, it was great, you know. I got sent to it because I was in punishment. I was like, I failed out my first semester of college. So my football coach was like, well, you can't play. You got to get your grades up. Here's three dance classes.

This sounds like a teenage drama like on TV. Mm-hmm. Like the jock fails out of class. The coach is mad. Yeah, but usually the jock gets the girl and then makes the football team and goes, I didn't get the girl or make the football team. What do you mean? You didn't get girls in high school or in college?

Never dated anybody. Really? No. Because you didn't want to? Yeah. against it. You were against dating. Mm-hmm. Because... Got my heart broke when I was like 16 and I was like, well, I'll never do this again.

And I'm just going to focus on football. Stop. And then I met a girl, my senior year in college. And then we started dating. It was kind of like a whirlwind. And were you in love with her? Yeah. Do you think about her today? No.

Okay. Damn. No. But I actually, I mean, she's engaged now and like I wish her nothing but success. But it's like, it's just like seeing how her life has changed and my life has changed and it's good do you think people that knew you back then would expect you to be who you are now well the funny like the funny thing is i just went to one of my high school best friends is getting married to his high school sweetheart and they're having us they had a send off wedding party to italy and it was at the beach we're all hanging out and all the high school friends are all together and they're all just dogging me they're all talking shit they're all like making fun of like the the the thirst trap

videos and all the stupid shit i do online and i'm like you got to do what you got to do yeah well how do you feel about that though when they're making fun of you at the end of the day they want to come on my boat still yeah that weekend you know yeah it's it's just we all talk shit to each other yeah it's a small town it's like small town we love to humble each other we love to keep it real with each other yeah so keep you humble yeah this episode is brought to you by rackettin if you haven't heard about rackettin where have you been it is the most rewarding way to shop and save because Racketon members can earn cash back on everything that they buy. Racketon is a shopping platform that partners with stores across every category. Beauty, clothing, electronics, home, department stores, pets, etc. You are already shopping at your favorite stores. Why not be saving while doing it?

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was finishing up my GC license and I was taking a break from studying and I saw an ad for the WWE to sign up for the WWE. So I sent it to my boys. And I was like the wild kid on my football team. So I sent it to them. They like this is hilarious. They loved it. Like see what else you can sign up for. So I found the, the Bachelorette sent that in as well. And Oh, you were looking for shit to sign up for it. Yeah. Because they're like, see what else you can find, you know. And found. To make money? No, just as like a joke of like what kind of crazy shit I can put as like on a resume, you know. Okay. And sent it out. And the Bachelorette came calling quick and kind of role is it a hefty application though at first or is it just a picture it's it gets to

become like a hefty application later on i see but the first step first step is like a video yeah like just me saying like i sent them like the one of my favorite douchey pictures i got of myself like during football we had a football practice at the beach one time in college yeah and i was in the injured group so i was just rolling around in the water and i took a picture with my teammate and i'm like this So it's like in my jersey halfway up. No. I sent that in and that was gold. Gold.

They called quick. Wait. How old were you then? 21. 24. 24. Mm-hmm. So.

No, 25 because I turned 26 on the show. On the show. So before that, you never were like doing modeling or. So I just got into modeling. This is another random story. Like I'm on Instagram and I'm posting like stupid pictures. you know post football college you know me head stuff and this one guy keeps sending like fire ambulances under my thing I'm like what is this guy who is this guy you know so I click on this page and it says

casting director for blah blah blah blah I don't know what any of that stuff means and so I message him I go why do you keep commenting on my page or something like that you know and he's like have you ever modeled I was like no never modeled he's you think about it as a no he's like well you should like you should send me some digital and I'll help you get mom I was like well what's a digital sends me what a digital is it's guys in like underwear I'm like I'm about to send this random dude pictures of me and my underwear sounds sketchy sounds very sketchy yeah but it's only weird the first time so I did it and you should see it you should see it you know the images we're in my mom's bathroom wait did you check that the dude was legit did you google him do

no no no no no just so we're imagine this where my mom's bathroom my brother's got a lamp like this you know and my other boy he's the only one I knew that had a nice camera and we're taking these pictures and I'm still a big boy from my football days at this point yeah and I'm like squatting in my Calvin Klein's taking these photos in my mom's bathroom and we send it to him I'm like looking at him I'm like am I really about to send these out to this guy I'm like what's the worst thing he's going to do it he's like jerk off to him okay so I was he sent him off sent him was he legit he sent him to all the casting directors in Miami I got yeses from everybody

started modeling set me up in New York with my still agent in New York like it was crazy take chances you guys send random pictures yeah as long as your dick's not out send it you know that's crazy okay so this kind of was all happening at the same time it sounds like you finished college

you were looking into things you could do the modeling thing happened you sent it to WWE come back to you they did like six months later and you were like I'm like, I'm already off the Bachelorette. I'm good guys. So you get into the whole thing of The Bachelor. Yeah, I remember I got the call on a modeling job to do the Bachelorette.

And I was the Cartier, I was in front of the Cartier store on Valentine's Day. And I was like a little bell hot boy, like in a little red suit with a little Cartier hat, you know, and just like holding champagne for people walking into the store. And I remember I got the call and me and my boys, we celebrated that night when I got that call. Yeah? Why were you excited about it? like what excited you about it it was just another different opportunity in life i had no idea what it was or what it could be but we uh it was just like a new adventure i'm all for an adventure did you know at the time it would be like you know falling in love proposing like maybe it being

actually really serious yeah but i never like i took it at face value at first you know i was like yeah if it happens it happens you know i'm going for an adventure and if it comes with love great if it doesn't it doesn't yeah did you know No, it was Hannah. So when they were doing my intro package, it was between Hannah B and Hannah G. And so I was, so I mean, they're like, say something if it was Hannah B. Say something if it was Hannah B. Yeah. And then, but at the end of it, like, I was hoping it was a big personality. Yeah. And she portrayed that. And so I was hoping it was her and it worked out that way. And you were in the final three? Two. Two. So you know Jared Freed, the comedian. Yes, he's great. So he, for some reason, there are things that stick with me. that he said to me when we've done podcasts together and his theory about you cracks me up every time.

He says it fun. This isn't going to sound funny when I'm saying it. But he basically says that Hannah was like that scene where she doesn't want to have sex with you and she tells you

and you're like, okay. So Jared just says like because you said okay. The whole world was crazy. Yes. So he's like, you got this God edit

and Jared obviously screams it out or whatever. But it's just so true like not that you're not great in general, but the girls, it's like, he's good looking and he, like, accepted that she, you know, didn't want to, didn't want to do it with him. And I, do you feel like it was at that moment when the world actually went wild? And they were like, and he's, like, sweet and accepting. Yeah, I mean, I remember, like, I remember that week, it was crazy. Like,

that episode came out. It was mayhem. I feel like that, like, pushed a lot of things over the top. And I remember, like, Marie Claire writes, like, Tyler, like, Tyler. Cameron, feminist woke king, all these things. And, you know, at first you, like, paters up on back, like, cool. Do you remember that moment, though? Yeah. I mean, it was crazy. And, like, I think at this point in time, too, we're doing, like, New York Central Park runs. And we have, like, 200 women running with us through Central Park. And we're doing all these amazing things. So, like, it was, like, the craziest time ever. And then, like, you know, they come out with a book deal, all this thing. I'm like, what the hell I'm going to write a book about? You

know? You ended up writing a book, though. Yeah. Later. What the hell I'm going to write a book about? So I sat around, like, sat around, thought about it, thought about it. And I was like, it's honestly fucked up what people are praising me for. Because what I, what do you want him to do? Be like, well, Jared, Jared says it. He's like, what do, what do they think? He's going to be like, fuck you for not fucking me. Exactly.

It's like, it's like. But do you remember that moment with her? Yeah. Like what you were thinking and what came out of your mouth? You know, she's like, I want to go to the fantasy suite with you, but I don't want us to have sex. And I was like, cool. Let's just hang out. out let's have fun you know what I mean like and like it was it was the best night like we had a

great time we connected with because you understand at the time why she didn't want to have sex with you no but it's just that was her answer that's her answer what's your theory I think the luke stuff happened the luke stuff did happen the night before me oh where he got really upset yeah and so maybe that played into it but I mean I don't know I don't remember what my theory was at the time but maybe we didn't know that what you just said so I feel like my theory was maybe she was scared you know i don't know and like whatever her reasoning is is her reasoning and it's fine you know yeah but to me that was you became a feminist icon yeah but it's just it's like i'm like if my boys or my brothers didn't say that didn't say that we got problems right

you know what like but how how low are our expectations yeah that what did we i mean i could have seen other dudes maybe manipulated so it's not like i'm mad at you for not how having sex with me, but like maybe seeing other dudes be, like, offended or be like, is not, is it not real what we have? So yeah, your response then, so you agree that that was like a pivotal moment. Yeah. And what's interesting is they sparked so much conversations with my friends, with my agents, which my two best friends are girls. My agents, it's a full woman team. And I was asking about all these things. And they're like, well, you know, there was like one account called Girls Against Oppression and all that. And they'll, you should follow this. And I was like learning from

them and I remember one day we don't think about this as men at all it was like if men weren't around what would you do and it was like the simplest task in the world like walk in the park wear whatever I wanted to wear do all these things I'm like as men we're fucking this up for a lot of people you know and it just it was a huge eye-opener writing that book and having those conversations with everybody about there's a reason why the barcelo because a lot of men out there are just shit and I hear now I hear today like you know I forgot who it was I heard someone was like yeah, I told her to delete her Instagram if we're going to start dating. I'm like, why does that matter?

You know, what are these, you know. How did you become such a respectful stand-up dude? My dad and my mom. Yeah. And then I think my two best friends being Molly and Katie, like always, like, protecting women, you know, I always felt like I had to. And then my dad was always like, you know, I wasn't allowed to have my door closed whenever I had a girl home growing up.

My brother's got to do whatever they wanted because they were younger. So why you? Oh. That was your first child. So they try everything on me, but it's just like, you know, never touch women, never disrespectful woman, you know, like my dad's, I'll break your hand, you know, so I love. Oh, really? Yeah. So, like, yeah, I had fear of my pops, but also my mom was able to teach me reasons why and respect. And when you have friends like Molly and Katie and they talk you through scenarios and things that have happened to them and, you know, you learn a lot. So you were never a fuckboy? Oh, I was. Okay. So there's a way to be a fuck boy, but respectful about it. Yeah. Okay. Cool. Write a book about that. As long as we're all on the same page. You know?

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let me out of the car. Let me out of the car. Camerman comes out and he goes, I've never seen someone. Like, you become, you grow a relationship with these cameramen and like everyone around you because you're with them a lot and he goes I've never seen someone conduct themselves the way you did on this show like you should be so proud of yourself that started getting me like choked up and then my producer who I got really close with was like crying and we were walking down as like beautiful hotel resort in Greece like in the mountains on the water I was like this is the most amazing thing and it's over and I was like I'm always coming this close to my life so close to everything and I just keep missing it and you genuinely felt that way yeah I definitely cried a little bit

and got a 12 pack of beer, sat in the bathtub for two hours, put on some juice world, the album called Goodbye and Goodridden's, and tried and got over it. And then how long did it take you to kind of get over that until you were paparazzied hanging out again outside of her house? Yeah, no, I think, you know, the show happens. And then, like, you know, I was so cool with everybody still and Jed and Hannah and everyone. I was just supporting Hannah because I had no. Oh, right. You were. You were like Queen. Yeah.

I had no ill will for her. Like, I love that girl. Like, I had so much, like, respect and, like, the way she carried herself and handled it. Like, I want to be her friend. Like, you weren't angry. No, not at all. Like, and, like, at the point in time, I thought Jed was great, too. You know?

At that point in time is a key, key word. Yeah. And even when the shit started to unravel, I was like, Jed, just be a man, face it. Like, go talk to her through it, you know, and he wouldn't do it. And so, yeah. So when did that reconciliation happen with you and Hannah? I think it was right before I was heading out for the final rose. because I was in the Keys doing my family lobster trip every year.

Yeah. And she, like, calls me and we talked for, like, two hours on my drive back. And she's like, you know, they want me to ask you out. Who's they? Producers. Like, I want you to, too, you know, and kind of talked about it all and talked about, you know, just. Trying again. The girl can talk.

Yeah. So, you know, it's probably an hour, you know, and a half of her talking and a half an hour of me talking, you know. Did you feel like you would give another go? Yeah, you know, I for sure thought I would and, you know, wanted to. And we tried a couple times. Yeah. And now she's getting married. Which is awesome. Yeah. And that's like a whole, a whole story. But yeah, definitely bad choice on her part. No, it all worked out. Do you think that you ended up breaking her heart back? I guess. Yeah. I guess you can say that. I don't know. You know, we try to reconcile really during COVID. And it was. Oh, when you brought her out to the, what you guys call it, the COVID house? Quarantine crew. Oh, crying. Yeah. You brought her out there.

Yeah, so my mom passed away like three weeks ago. I'm so sorry about your mom. And before that, thank you. And so, and her, my mom was obsessed with her. Your mom was. Yeah. And it would piss me the hell off. I was like, mom, like, you know, always posts about it.

I'm like, you're just making it harder for me to live my own life, you know? Because everyone would go to her, bring it all up, it become new stories or this or that, you know. And but she loved her. And like, they would talk all the time. I didn't really know that. And she was so good to my mom. And I remember when it was like day two of sitting next to the bed with my mom, all of a sudden, I was thinking about Hannah. And like, you know, my mom, like, why the hell my mom like this?

You just think about everything when you're sitting in that scenario, you know? All of a sudden, Hannah texts me. And then she's like, oh, my God, I heard the news, blah, blah, blah. So we had like a long talk that night. And then she said, well, I want to come out, you know, and then something happened with her family the next day. So we were kind of leaning on each other. And then she's like, I want to come out for the funeral. and it was like a nice breath of fresh air

it was great and then like probably a week at the funeral I was drunk I invited her back because I was feeling her and then when she came back it was just I was too soon I was going to ask you if it didn't feel too soon

not for her to come to the funeral because obviously it was to support but if you had any contradicting feelings of if to let her come because you know that's a lot to deal with on top of I wanted her to come but then I realized

I didn't realize how crazy it was going to be. I mean, I was still morning and dealing my mom. And now you throw it's a house of eight people. My mom's, we were all hanging in my mom's house, which is a tiny little three-bedroom, 1,200 square foot house. And then so you throw eight people into there. And then Hannah's in that mix.

And so it's always craziness. Then my street became a parade because everyone found out, Hannah, Matt, everyone was there. So they would hang out outside? So your cars would just line up and just drive by all day every day. So it was just like you're living in a bubble, you know? Wow, that's crazy. And so it just became so many things happening at one time. It was like, I can't even figure out how to be friends with you. Was it your friends rallying around you kind of? Yeah, I think it was both. And, you know,

I offered up to my friends. I was like, guys, don't be in the city during this, you know, come hang out in Florida. And so we all hung out in my house and, you know, it was great. I had a boat, had a canal on my street. Oh, it's right out. The canal is like off the house? Not off the house, but I have a boat ramp like in the beginning of the neighborhood so we would go on the boat all the time so like we were able to to stay together and not be around people but also like go on the boat and have fun and do whatever do you still have that house yeah yeah it's my child at home yeah 30 years you're gonna keep it forever i just remodeled it you're gonna keep it forever do you see yourself living there with like a future family or something maybe i think one day

down the road my brothers or one of us will have their first kid there i think is like kind of our plan is but right now we're gonna just run it out that's special and you're In Jupiter now, right? Is that your base? Yeah. I just bought another house that I'm going to start renovating. And you're living there? Yep. With a lot of like traveling.

Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's not much entertainment going on in Jupiter. Yeah. So how did you think about having your home base somewhere else like New York, Nashville? I thought about New York. I lived here for four years. But the thing I like COVID brought me back and then I saw like the construction industry picking back up down there.

I started buying land. And then me and my dad started building. houses but how's your dad doing he's doing well he's doing well much healthier now but i just the one thing i love new york but the one thing i never had a job here it was always waiting for the next job right the waiting part oh so you like that in florida you have your construction things and then entertainment biz things you can go and do i can pop out and do it gotcha gotcha that's a good that's a healthy state of mind yeah because if i'm just waiting for the next job yeah yeah i'm in trouble you know what's good for you on a tuesday or a wednesday you know it's not good for you

So let's talk about that time in New York. We were talking about it before we started. You moved into the one Manhattan Square. I asked you about that deal. Because I remember it was one of the first time, one of the first times we saw like an influencer collab on a home. It was like you got a discount to be the face of it. Yeah. It was great.

I mean, that apartment was my first big boy apartment. Yeah. So I was living, think about this room that we're in right now, like cut it from here over. Yeah. into the end of that wall. Yeah. Me and Matt were living in that same room. Oh.

Together. What? A studio? Well, there was three other people, three other rooms. On the upper west side, right? Yeah, the upper west side and about, and like a tiny little bathroom. Oh, so you guys lived in New York? Why were you living there?

Well, it was like, it was like the bachelor's. It was like, the bachelor's finished and about halfway through it airing, my, my Molly agent was like, you should come up here. Like, let's get you some work. I was like, I got shit to do in Jupiter anymore. So came up here and Matt's like, you can come live with me. me come stay at my place for a little bit. So he had a bean bag. So he had a lofted, like full size bed. Under that was a bean bag. And I slept on the bean bag. Like for days? For six months. Oh my God. Yeah. How do you, but you're so tall? It became a little crevice in there

that I just found my home at. And important to say, were you going on dates with Gigi Hadid while you were on the beanbag? Yeah, I was not taking her back to the beam bag. Did she know though? Were you like, oh yeah. Oh yeah. They picked me up outside of the apartment once. but were you embarrassed not at all really it was my situation huh good for you mm-hmm damn it was like I didn't have shit to me I know but you weren't broke no wait didn't you make money off the bachelor I wasn't able to make money yet and so I was like you know wait but you make money off the show no no you make nothing you make you make a chance of fall in love oh as a contestant you don't as a lead you do as a lead you do so you were going out on

dates with Gigi Hadid living in the... Did that make sense to you? Were you like... Nothing made sense at the time. Yeah, it was crazy. I remember seeing a picture of you with her. Was it like Serena Williams? Mm-hmm.

Jupiter girl. Just like chilling outside of bodega or something. Yeah. Oh, you know her from Jupiter? Well, she lives in Jupiter now. Oh, that's crazy. And Venus is in Jupiter. What?

Jupiter's like a little celebrity spot now. Stop. Yeah. Okay. You're like... Tiger Woods, Michael Jordan. You're like the ambassador of Jupiter. I am. am so you were in this life so you're saying at the time you were like accepting it as

as reality yeah i mean i'm just like to me you put me anywhere i have fun with what i got and i make the most like my my one of my favorite sayings all time is you got to make chicken salad at chicken shit you know and that's what i was doing salad out of chicken shit yeah can you tell us how the jiji thing happened was it instagram yeah yeah it was instagram everyone i got a fall from her and everyone knew that yeah and i had no idea and i also didn't know who that was so Shut the fuck up, Tyler, Cameron. I know who football players are, and I know who sideline reporters are, you know. So you did know, and then people are like this model is following you.

Yeah, I looked her up. I'm like, oh, he was like, okay. I'll shoot my shot. So you did, you slid in. Yeah. DMs. Damn, you guys, those Instagram DMs. You got to shoot.

So not only, how many dates did you go on? We went on, we spent some time together. It was nice. And you even went to her grandma's funeral. That was wild. Because that's a family event. Yeah. I was, you know, I think they just wanted support. And if I could give support, that's all.

Yeah. And are you on good terms? Yeah, great. She's, you know, amazing. And I wish for nothing but And really after that she got back together with Zane. Wild. Yeah. You were the, the beanbag wasn't cutting it. The beanbag didn't happen. I mean, that's wild. And that just shows like how much confidence you have. Do you feel like your confidence really helped you in your life? Yeah, definitely. I think, you know, I have confidence, but I definitely have things, you know, I wish I was more confident. What are you insecure about? It's just, it's just sometimes, like, like football, you know, I got my confidence shook and I was never the same play ever again. Because you got kicked off the team and make it to the...

I just, I mean, I had like, I had a staff and it got, it got difficult with the new staff. So it was an injury with you people. Yeah. With the sports people. Yeah. Like an injury fucks it up. Yeah, injury and my own doing fucked it up. I was a crazy party boy in college.

And so I was like the wild child on the team. And I took honor and pride and being that guy. Like you wish you would have taken it maybe more seriously? Yeah, exactly. And then when I got pretty much I did get kicked off the team my last year, I grad transferred out, played my last year's FAU. And I was like the clean goody good boy, was like student athlete of the year, newcomer of the year, all those things.

So why didn't you keep on that track? I mean, I got picked up by the Ravens, got cut twice by them, tried to go pro again, got hurt. And that was it. But I was a little, like, too little too late. If I was that good kid earlier, it might have been better for me. It might have been better. Do you have any regrets there or no?

Lots, tons. Really? Yeah. But you could have seen your life like parallel life, sliding door, Tyler Cameron, pro footballer. You could see it. Yeah, I would have loved it, you know. I had the ability, I believe I had all, everything there.

I just kind of lost my mind a little bit and, like, had my first taste of freedom and went crazy with it. Yeah. But it's a reminder to me. Like, I remember I was at the Chief Super Bowl game, and they were, wanted and i almost cried i was like man i'm good enough to be out there and then i was like you feel that still but it's a reminder yeah it's a reminder me that like i have a great opportunities now don't fuck it up yeah that's true i see three sliding doors it's like it could have been pro footballer

you could have been married to hannah brown and now you have this life you know and i remember when you got cut from the show i was like he's gonna be fine you know and he's going to be i said this you don't have to say this like my opinion was like I'm happy for him that he didn't have to go down that route because like he's young he's going to have so many opportunities he's going to have so many girls so let's talk about your DMs like what do they overflow is Instagram like alert alert yes I mean the DMs are crazy it's uh it's a dangerous place to live it is huh I mean you get everything from nudes to you get nudes yeah you get all types of shit in the DMs what do you do with the nude

You just let them go. What if it's a really good nude? You let it go. Really? That's not the way that is hard you guys. I'm not a nude fan. Unless you're like weighing the relationship and, you know, a little seductive picture. Yeah, that's true.

Like, I don't want to see you naked. I don't know you. Yeah. That's intimate. Yeah. So. And then I would say girls aren't very creative when it comes to shooting their shot either with DMs, you know? It's like a hey.

Huh. Or let's get married or hot. It's just nothing to it. Yeah. Let's get married. Yeah. What would be a good way to get into your DMs? Just something.

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honest i am going to watch this season i i feel like i missed out now i'm like wow the show looks crazy hannah brown won it last season yep they throw you in crazy freaking scenarios like navy seal shit yep no it's ridiculous so when they approach you about this i opportunity were you down from the from the get my immediately reaction was a yes i i just got done with a huge project i was like beaten up i was like this would be a good way to get away from south florida get a little vacation and i was a vacation yeah well i watched it i went and watched it i knew hannah won i was like let's hollyway it can't be that hard you're like if hana won yeah you know did you ask her about it she spoke to me about a little bit before you know and so i had a little

gist of it and she said it was really hard and of course i'm like yeah she said it's hard boy was she right yeah it was so fucking hard so no phones no phones which is great I love not having a phone yeah no phones I mean we're sitting in bathroom stalls like right next to each other you know why bath what do you mean bathroom stalls like we all me and you would use the same stall like at the same time mm-hmm there'd be like a little wall but like so you really passing you toilet paper so the living conditions even were gross yeah that's the vibe mm-hmm you sleep on a cot so yep okay so it was like it was a lamb slaughterhouse before we moved in there yo okay so you were into it when you got there were there any like wait what did I sign up for well as it got harder I didn't realize how hard it was going to get and so it but early on I was like I got this you know this is fine because like athletic wise I got it like yeah was it only and when you got there did you realize that it was more than just the athletes well I mean right off the bat they do the Tranezium. What's that? It's where you're on these metal rails and you've got to walk across,

you know, we're suspended 350 feet in the air over this river and I'm scared of death of heights. And so that to me, like, it was like, the psychological mental part, like, was like starting to mess with me. And that to me was like one of the scariest things I've ever done. Yeah. But then once we got through that, I was like, all right, can't be much worse. Yeah. And it got worse. It got worse. Did they tell you who signed on when you signed on? Like, Did you know who was going to be part of it? I don't think you're supposed to know. But you kind of know.

Like my agent gave me a list of who she knew. Yeah. And then she said Robert Horry and then I blacked out and forgot everyone else. He's an athlete. He's an athlete. So I didn't care about it. You're like, I'm in. Yeah.

Is he a footballer? He's a basketball player. Like, play with the Lakers back in like the heyday with Shaq and Kobe. And like, so I was a huge fan back then. So did he turn out to be everything you thought he was going to be? It was amazing. Yeah. It was like Robert.

It was Robert bedtime stories. You know, he would just tell stories at night. Same room sleeping. I was like three beds over. We all were in this, one room sleeping. On Cots. Yeah, like, you know, it was nuts. I remember laying down, like, to the right of me, he's Tom Sandoval, which I know, like, the whole world hates him at this point.

Did you know of him? Just, I started to know of him because of the scandal. Uh-huh. And then to the left of me is Aaron Jackson, a limping gold medalist, you know, I'm like, this is a wild. And, like, two people over is Robert Horrig. I'm like, this is a wild room to sleep in. Who were you closest with? I became closest with Aaron Jackson, Jojo Siwa, Bodie Miller, Nick Baial, probably.

Nick Viya, and both of you are bachelor people. Yes. Did you ever connect before this show? Yeah, and I told Nick, I was like, I really didn't like you. Yeah, a lot of, I feel like Nick is, you know, he's controversial in it. Well, he's a talk show host, so he's always got to say something. Yeah. You know, and I remember during, talk show host.

I remember, I remember the quarantine. He was saying shit about us and they quarantining and us having fun and all that. I'm like, you want to be miserable inside of our fucking house? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I was like, fuck Nick. Yeah. And then I realized, too, like, as I went through this world a little bit more, like, you guys got to have an opinion. You got to get people to watch your show, you know?

So I, like, I just grew not to care. But when he was on the show, I was like, I got to beat Nick's ass if I, you know, I'm on the show. Yeah. So you guys were competitive? Oh, I mean, you don't really turn competitive against anybody because it's so hard you just lift each other up. You're trying to help each other get through it. Oh, okay. So he was a good friend there.

Yeah, Jojo Seawal said that you and Nick are her chosen family. Mm-hmm. That connection is like not... That's the biggest surprise is Jojo Seawaw. Really? Because I'm... You remember her with like the colorful... Yeah, you look at her...

You look at her on Instagram and TikTok. You see the bow. You see the crazy colors, crazy office. I'm like, this girl is going to be so L.A. Such an industry girl, like character. She was different. She was amazing. The way she conducted herself, the maturity, the leadership.

I mean, she was the, she was the dress police. Like, she made sure everyone was wearing the right things, like, because we all had a match, you know, and she kept us strict. And she'd be talking sometimes about getting dressed. And I'd be like, God damn, Jocho, shut up. But she was right, you know. And then, because, like, we'd be getting rushed out. I'm like, damn, she was right, you know.

So she was kind of like the mom of the group? She was 20. And she's like, well, we got people all up to 52 on the show. You talk to her, like, a lot? A ton. Love her. Like, I just want indoor skydiving with her, like, which is, like, one of her passion. so that was cool to see.

Yeah. I hate that shit. What do you mean you hate it? I hate that shit. Why? What the fuck is the point? It's cool. It's different.

I hate it. I hate it. I hate it. Have you done it? I've done it. Yeah, I wouldn't be so fast. Why'd you hate it?

Why do you hate it? You're in a tube. Yeah. You're like this. No, no, what's the point? Did you skyline? If you get good. If you get good out of it.

Oh, if you get good and you can start doing like that. Oh, she knows how to do shit like that. She can do crazy stuff. there. Were you good? No. I mean, they said I was the fastest learning I've ever learned. Ugh. Sucking some Tyler, Cameron D. over there at I Fly. Are you going to go back? For her? I'm going to bring you too. I hate it. Our next interview is going to be in there. I hate it. Okay. I got really passionate because I can't even tell you guys. Where did you even do it at? We did it in Westchester. Where'd you guys go? We were like in L.A. or somewhere else.

Yeah, I took my sister for her for birthday, which like, you're welcome. um you know i don't know i was like let's do something crazy okay so you were saying about tom sandevall what was he like tom i mean tom tom is tom tom lives in tom's world for sure but like shaving his forehead no but he i mean he was he was all like i remember the first day they started getting on him for his nails the drill staff and so the next day he's like taping his nails up and then you know he had like a jojo did his hair and like put it in a ponytail And that's what they gave him hell for that, you know. Oh, he needed like a luck.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Tom, he would get us in trouble. Like, the first day he got me in trouble. I'm like, I'm like, this motherfucker is bad as everyone says he is, you know? They switched up our numbers or whatever. And so I got his clothes on, which he's like a size medium on everything. And I'm an extra large.

Yeah. So everything is like, I'm stuck in my clothes. I can't fit. Oh, so clothes are a big deal in the special forces show. Yeah. Okay, we'll find out of that. We had to change and everything. And the next thing you know, we're getting cussed at.

one of the drill staff because we're changing inside. Oh, there are, like, rules that you have to follow. Yeah. So it's not just like turn on the cameras, special forces. At all times, you're like living this life. Yeah, this is the least producer. There's no producers. There's no, none of that.

Like, there's no, it's just you, you drill staff. And then there will be a camera here and there to keep up with you. But it's you and the drill staff. That's it. Does it get like deep, like in interviews? Yeah. I boohooed. I cried.

Oh, really? Cried a lot. So are you happy you did it? Extremely. extremely happy and i saw you said in interviews about tom sandoval that he like was still hung up on rachel yeah he had pictures of her and all that and you know he was talking about her i wanted you know make it work with her and you know he seemed buried you anyone about it i don't know what happened yeah i think it's changed since but aside from tonsan vial there are other people that

are pretty fucking interesting terrah reed is on the show did you have posters of her on your wall when you were younger so i didn't so i didn't i don't know anybody right okay but when they said that's the girl from American Pie. I was like, oh my God, that's her. I mean, yeah, because American Pie is like... Iconic. Yeah. Conic. And so the only posters I have was Kate Upton when she did Sports Illustrated. Yeah, that was crazy. Yeah. Okay, so is that your type, Kate Upton? No, no. I'd say my type is, I don't know, I'd probably lean more like Latin. I like,

you know, I love Jessica Alba. Mm-hmm. But, like, my last girlfriend was Dominican. Like, I love that. I don't know. But they're also dangerous. they're dangerous wait what was her name your last girlfriend i have it somewhere camilla oh the one that went after to lewis hamilton yeah are we mad at her no no that's the greatest thing that ever happened to me but you were kind of in love i feel i was i was head over heels i could tell yeah big time uh-huh so she kind of broke your heart

yeah so you guys even tyler cameron can get his heart broken i'm a lover boy like i feel I'm, like, a hopeless romantic. Like, when I fall, I fall real hard. Like, you forget, you just kind of... Yeah, and my responsibilities and everything goes out the window, and I just, I'm a lover, yeah. Okay, well, I hope the next one is like... Yeah, we're getting there. Do you feel like you want to already or no?

Yeah, definitely. I think being back in Jupiter has slowed me down a lot and kind of, like, flipping the switch for me a little bit. Would you be The Bachelor? No, maybe one day. Maybe one day. For a good paycheck? Yeah. No, I know it's, I know it.

For a good paycheck, but also, like, you got to be ready and you got to, I don't ever want to do the bachelor if I'm not fully into it. Yeah. You know, because you're wasting their time, too. I know. You're wasting your viewers' times. And I think everyone we've seen who's done it just to do it, we could tell. Right. And it doesn't come off well.

Were you just at Hannah G. and Dillon's wedding? I couldn't make it. Okay, but you were invited. Yeah. Okay. So who surprised you the most from the special forces cast? Jojo. Oh, she did?

Yeah, Jojo did. How was Black China? Black China, I got love for her. I was always trying to, like, look out for her, you know, and trying to keep her going. Like, you know, her and Tara were definitely like, you know, that bag was bigger than they were. The bags.

Yeah. Oh, you have like a giant bags we got to carry. So I was always like throwing the bags on top of them, you know. Yeah. But Black China, she was great. Angela, she was great. And, you know. So what's harder, trying to compete against 25 guys for one girl's heart or special forces?

Well, I think The Bachelor has prepared us for Special Forces, you know? Yeah. A lot of mental games in that one. Yeah, that's true. There's a lot of similarities. Like, in The Bachelorette, you would see guys just unravel. They would lose their mind because they was, and you would see them like, oh, he's going to leave, or he's going to get kicked off because he's going to bug the girl because they would get insecure about something. They'd lose their confidence and you would see them unravel.

And then they'd make a big excuse or a reason why or something and it wouldn't work out. They'd be gone like that. Yeah. Same thing with special forces. They would start to struggle. They would get beat up and something wouldn't, you know, they would be worn out. They push you to the brink, you know. And then next thing you know, there's an excuse that starts coming up in their head.

Yeah. And then that would validate them to leave. So you're strong mentally, it sounds like. I'd say I'm pretty strong. They put me to my edge a couple times. Oh, really? Okay. Okay.

Okay. Just a quick. Who would you rather? Oh, here we go. Who would you rather a bachelor nation? Okay. I'm not going to do Mary Fahale because I'm like we don't want to kill anybody But like just pick your pick your girl

Okay Natasha Parker Kit Keenan Love her Kate Kiena love her Katelyn Bristow Kaelin Bristow So what was who am I picking your girl

Out of the three? Yeah Natasha is the most fun I think kids very cute Caitlin's got to go Okay Yeah Because she's like a girl's

Because you are you friends with Jason So because of your friendship there I stay ten toes down for Jason. Oh, you're a little, it sounds like you're a little angry. No, no. Ariana Maddox, now you know who she is. Who's that? She's Tom Sineval's ex.

Okay, the blonde one? Yeah. Okay. Raquel, Rachel, or Sierra. Oh, you don't know who Sierra Miller is from Summerhouse. So this is between Ariana and Raquel. Yeah. Well, Ariana is richer right now, so we'll go Ariana.

Okay. It's a business kind of dude. Okay, Tyler, I could talk to you forever, but. Time's up. All right. Time's up, babe. Thank you for coming on. Thank you.

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