Not Skinny But Not Fat - We Stan Savage Ariana

Episode Date: September 29, 2020

Ariana Madix a la VPR comes back on the pod and even though season 7 of Vanderpump Rules feels like it was FOREVER AGO, I just had to talk to this angel about it! It was a rough season for both her, and her boyfriend, Sandy, AKA Tom Sandoval, and I wanted to know how she felt about it! From Tom's fight with Jax re the homophobic priest, to some of the cast insinuating Tom is jealous of...Stassi, and Ariana's depression being a big topic this season...Oh and the reunion! She also gives us a little behind the scenes and explains reality TV stuff like "reshoots" and how upsetting it is when a lot of stuff you filmed doesn't get into the show. We obvi also talk about our mutual obsession with Hailey Bieber, and what she thinks is going to happen with the show! Also Tom & Tom were playing the trumpet downstairs while we were recording and I CANNOT. Produced by Dear Media See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The following podcast is a dear media production. This is Not Skinny but Not Fat, and I'm your host, Amanda, bringing you the latest in all celebrity gossip, reality TV recaps, and anything happening in Hollywood right now that I just can't keep my mouth shut about. This is Not Skinny, but Not Fat. Bee-B Girl, Ariana is on the pod today. Hello. I'm so excited finally to have you on again. Yes. I was just telling Ariana before we started that I remember when she was on last

and how much I fell in love with you and asked you not to hide me on my stories at the end. Because I just discovered you told me about hiding people. You basically said that you hide like everyone. Yeah, I hide like all of like Banderpump cast basically, you know. Wait, still? Yes, still. Wait, who's hidden now? I need to know.

Literally every single person that's on Banner Pump Rules is hidden, except for like Tom, which he never posts ever. Tom Swartz. Tom Sandoval. Oh, yeah. Okay. Yeah. My boyfriend, yeah.

Which he posts on Instagram like once a month. He really is an active. at all. I've noted he's very like not he's I would expect more content from him a little bit. He is so very not like when I say he's like an older millennial. It's like he might as well be Gen X. Like he just doesn't. Social media is like not he's not very like tech savvy. He's not very social media like he doesn't. It's honestly great because right. I was going to say doesn't it make him a more I feel like it makes him hotter like I feel like he's not like in his phone ever the only thing that the biggest drawback to it though is that he doesn't understand memes and so or like I'll show

him a TikTok and I have to be explained like okay so here's like you know how memes have like layers because they like originated from like another meme and another oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so I have to go through like every time there's a meme that I think is funny I'll show it to him and he's like he just has like no reaction because to him it's just like kind of foreign. Yeah. And I'll be like, okay, so here's why it's funny. And then he'll be like, and then he'll give me the. And then by the time you're done explaining it, then it's like, it's lost to all.

It's not funny anymore. Yeah. Well, imagine me explaining that to like my husband who's also Israeli so he doesn't get even. Oh, my. Yeah. I don't know how I married him sometimes. I'm like, when we got married, did I like ask you if you're like into the things I'm into because I like you don't get right yeah he's like doesn't know anything like pop culture

anything that that but but I think it's good I think people need to have their own things you know yeah yeah but it doesn't make Tom hotter I think it does yeah it really does like I couldn't imagine okay so Francesca Farago we both know from too out to handle yeah I think you told me you were like get on it and I was like I was like isn't it like too disgusting and then I got on it It's insane. I watched it all like a day. Like, it was just too... Let me say here that Francesca is the nicest human. I love to hear that because she's also like the skinniest, like, hottest human.

So it's like, if she wasn't nice, I would be bummed out. On the show, I remember being like, what surprisingly that my husband did watch with me. I remember us being like, she is super like provocative and all the stuff. but also like she's not ditsy at all like I'm way I feel like I'm dittsier than her like she was very like no like I did this like she was like somehow kind of cool with being like whatever just super hot and like making out with like if you talk to her like she's going to slide in like she's very very friendly and she very much she's really really nice very much wants to get out there. I feel like more now, like, you guys weren't thirsty, like the VPR cast. You know what I mean?

I feel like everyone on TV now is so much thirstier. Like the thirst, have you seen selling sign set? No, I still have not watched it. I know I'm like, I live alien or something. I well, okay, so here's the thing is I kind of have this weird thing about like shows. So like I can't watch the hill. I've never watched the hills. I try. I can't watch it. Like, I can't watch shows like million dollar listing. I love, I love like real estate, like HGTV kind of shows and stuff, but there's something about like when they're set in L.A., the way that they talk about L.A. is always very foreign to me. And so I get frustrated. I'm like, did you guys just move here? Because why are you acting like, like they just act weird about L.A.? Like in what way? I don't know that I don't

get it at all. It's almost like, okay, so, okay, so New York, for example, example is like a city of millions and millions of people with like all different neighborhoods and nooks and crannies and like the diversity is off the charts it's like every single kind of person you could find lives there i mean la is like that it's just spread out and we don't have seasons i feel like all these shows that are set in l.a tend to focus on like very specific areas and then they act like those areas are the end all be all and i'm i always find it very like off because I love the east side, I love downtown, I love the valley, I love West Hollywood, I love the West Side, like, for what they are, I love all those different areas.

And I always feel like they focus so much on like once, I mean, our show kind of does it too, where we focus on one area even though. Like West Hollywood, right? Right. And we could, you know, spread out a little bit. And then you all made it seem like when Chena moved to like Marino Del Rey, like she was moving to like, North Dakota. Right. Like we don't have cars. Yeah. It's like, no, but do you know how long it takes to get there? And it's like, hello.

Yeah. It is the same. Yeah. It takes half an hour really to get anywhere anyways. So. But still, Ariana, you're up on all the shit. You need to watch selling something like and be part of the world. I need. I know. So you also, you also told me that Tom and Tom are downstairs playing the trumpet. They're doing cameos in their cameo cabana. I don't know if you can hear it, but I can hear it. I can't. I can't. That's probably good. Now I'm having flashbacks to the reunion, which, by the way, feels like forever ago. When did it air?

What was it? It aired in like that first memory. Like I feel like at this point COVID has had like different eras. It was in like the first era of COVID back when everybody was still doing Instagram lives and they were like, that was an era. I had followed Justin Bieber because of that. Because of the lives. Because of the lives.

And then I like missed. things. And I was like, wait, I'm not following Justin B. And I was like, no, I stopped because I, the notifications of the lives were like ruining my life. Everyone was going live. Everyone was doing like cooking videos from their kitchen. DJs were doing like virtual sets. Like that was like first COVID era. And I feel like that's when the reunion was. So it was so long ago. It was like March or April. You were like Savage A.F. And like I remember wanting to have you on then because I was dying from you the entire time you came on like pissed or something or like in a in a like fuck it all mood and yeah it was i feel like it was just such a vibe and everyone got to see

kind of like not a different side of you but like a harder core side of you yeah i mean i kind went into it just being like you know i'm so tired of like not not like feeling like if I'm messy that people will just be like over me and I was just like fuck it like I'm going to be myself and I'm going to say what I have to say and I really feel strongly about it so it's kind of like burn it down you know like watching watching the rest of the because you know we got like the last like five episodes that week or like that like a couple days before so we could watch it all and I just remember feeling like I don't know like watching the rest of the season play out and seeing like what was shown what wasn't shown and kind of like

how it was all you know like there are definitely moments where I was like fuck yeah like that's that's great like that feels like really good and then there were some moments where I was like what was going on here and so yeah I just wanted to lay it all out and my friend Simon gave me crystals for protection who gave you crystals my friend Simon Simon Curtis he gave me like crystals for protection and I put them in my underwear. Did it help? I think it helped. I think so.

Wait, you guys, what Ariana was talking about is that they film, how long do you film for? Like two, three months? Yeah. Usually it's like May to September. I think last season was like more like June to September. Right. So they film like all the time. A lot of important shit in their lives.

A lot of like intimate moments. this and all that and imagine like then watching it and I don't know like another moment was chosen and not so people understand there's a lot of filming that goes into it that you pour your heart and soul into and to not see it like your book stuff wasn't on it I remember yeah that really pissed me off yeah because so much of it was film and that's like such an important part of my life like I it's like that that thing where I finally felt like I had not made it, but I felt like I had something to show for like what I'd done and gotten to a point where I can be like, look, that's like, I'm so proud of it. And it was like such a huge part of our

lives for like the year and a half leading up to that that I was just like, how are we not, we're going to just like pretend it ever happened. Like that. And also it's not like you became a marine scientist. Like, you wrote a book about cocktails and you were a bartender at Sir. It, like, it all, it does connect. You know what I mean? Right. And it's not like, with Tom, who you met at Sir, that you're both on the show.

Right. Like, it's not random. Yeah. So that was like, I definitely had a bit of a chip on my shoulder when it came to that stuff. Yeah. But then I saw like a lot of people online kind of like felt the same way. And I felt, you know, I was like, okay, at least like people who don't know me or

still seeing like this is weird you know so well they did show a lot about your like mental health stuff on on this season that was kind of like your yeah which i kind of felt like while that is very i thought important and a huge like you know so a weight lifted off of me because for so long i felt uncomfortable talking about that stuff so i just kind of didn't talk about it and then i got to a point where I was like, I don't know why I don't just be open, but I felt like this is something that people go through, including myself, but like we're still able to accomplish things and we're still able to show up and we're still able to do other stuff in spite of these like demons in our heads that are trying to hold us back. And so when we only saw like the bad parts

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See you guys soon. There was also that part that everyone talked about that was like, like one of the scenes where you met with Lisa about everything's coming back to me now, without to talk more about that. And like everyone kind of noticed your hair go from short to long. Yes. Um, so yeah,

basically we were talking and, and it was like, hair grew. Yeah. I know. I take a lot of biotin. Like I'm like really, I really like vitamin heavy diet.

But no, basically like we were talking. It was like one of the first days of filming. if not the first and we got into like a really deep conversation about all this stuff they had to stop filming because the crew is union and they can't go past a certain time and so they left and Lisa and I kept talking and so they were like they talked to her and she was like yeah we had like a really intense conversation and so they basically just inserted like a pickup shot of like what we had talked about just so that the audience was able to get like what really happened

because I think that if they would have just, if they would have just used like the only little bit that they had, they definitely like the audience wouldn't have seen like how much me and Lisa like really did connect. I mean, we even talked for like way long. We talked for like two hours. And so it got to a point. Yeah, we're like they had to leave. But that's why they inserted that pickup shot. And my hair was different. So. yeah so that happens too so i first of all i want to tell people vanderpump rules because it sound more like real if i say it it's completely real when they do the pickup shots it's because it is tv and they have to make it like whatever but but it is real and there are other pickup shots that i feel

like were noticeable like if you think about it which i hate thinking about behind the scenes but it's it's when stasi was at home and she got the message from tom right or whatever And, and then it's like, oh, well, that probably happened. Right. But they probably weren't, they weren't. But they probably weren't happened to be there when. So, A, you're all kind of good actors. Right?

If you can, like, do a little bit of what, what already happened. But that was also, it was also a very heavy season, I feel like, for, for Sandy. It was. I know. It was. Was that hard, like, seeing him kind of, are you, pooping? No.

You're doing your skin care routine? No, I'm just being, I'm very bothered by my baby. I told you that piece of hair that like, trolls me. That's standing between you and being HV. And I keep seeing it in the light and it's just driving me freaking crazy. Okay, you guys, no, not just class. See, I don't have words because I get two hours of sleep at night. But what's it called?

Confession. Confession. Rihanna is as obsessed with Haley Beaver. Maybe not as. Like, I've been pretty scary lately. I don't know. Not as? Maybe more.

I don't, I guess it's, I don't know. I, like, literally am obsessed with her. She, so Ariana, you know, is doing the low bun. What is it? Is it low? It's like mid. There's like a low mid. There's like a low bun.

And then there's the ballet bun and like the scrunchy. Oh, you need the, you need like a scrunchy. grunchy and what she put what do you think she puts to make it so do she put like wax or like I'm thinking it's got to be like a wax because hairspr doesn't hold like that and it's very like like I don't know yeah yeah we're obsessed with her I could talk about her all day but well you know I can too I feel like people are getting concerned she's just I mean she's the angel I don't know I just want to know, I want to pretend like she's also has a perfect, I mean, listen, J.B. didn't clean up his act alone. I feel like she was definitely, you're like, mm-hmm, yeah.

She was definitely huge in that. But, okay, back to Sandy. Oh, yeah. Sorry. So it was, I, it was such a heavy season for him. Like, he used to be, I mean, I mean, Jax would say that he's the number one guy in the group and not Tom, but Tom, Tom was always super likable. He never had real like, like, yeah, he would get upset and have his little, like, cry. But it was, this season was like everyone was kind of against him from the cast. Yeah, I felt like it was almost like that right off the bat. You know, it seemed very just from watching it. It's, it's kind of hard to remember.

Right. Leading up, like, you know, in life, like leading up to filming. It was, it was a long time ago. But like. Right. But like watching. it, it definitely seemed that way, like, that there was some kind of, like, resentment towards him, like, right off the bat. One thing about Tom that I've always known, you know, back when we

were friends and we were in other relationships is that he's always been, like, a super generous and very, like, real and true, like, good friend to his friends. Right. Myself included when we were friends. Like, that's kind of, like, how he always is. So it was really kind of, like, sad to see people kind of say things that I was like, that's, I don't know who you're talking about, but that does not, you're not talking about him. Like, that's not who lives. Yeah. Saying things like, you know, like he's jealous of people or he like.

He's jealous of Stasi. That was a weird thing. That usually doesn't happen, right? Like guys usually, I feel like, remember, now I'm having another flashback that when you were on my show and we were talking about Tyler Cameron because I was possessed with hate, which I'm now over. I remember you were like, are you jealous of Tyler Cameron? So it usually doesn't make sense to usually, let's say it does happen.

But it probably isn't the case that Tom is, you know, wants to, you know, have things that stops. Yeah. I, I, no. It's weird because it's, it's frustrating for me because, like, I get really, like, defensive and protective when I hear people say stuff about him that is not true, it like makes me upset, you know, like, because I live with him. I'm with him every day. Like, I know him, I think better than anybody at this point. And so, you know, when I see that, you know, people in their

confessional interviews or whatever say things about like him that's not real, it's just like, it's really frustrating. It's frustrating to you because it's like, what do you do? Go on Twitter and be like, that's not true at this person and blah, blah. It's almost like pointless. So I just kind of like, you know, let them say whatever and try to ignore it. It felt like the online space was also like agreeing with how the cast is feeling. In a way. I mean, I would say it was more half and half with that.

But like, I always think that if I probably did a poll so I can find it in my archives. I was very vocal, obviously, about being team, you know, Tom, just because. and putting aside the fact that I do love you and you guys, but is that it really objectively was like, didn't make sense why everyone was so, again, like nothing made sense. The whole Jackson priest thing now that I'm thinking back on it, you know,

that people thought it was so fucked up. And I was like, you know, that Tom brought up the priest thing and on camera, which again, you guys, you have to think about it like this. It is being filmed. So Jacks was pissed.

that Tom said it in front of the cameras. So in my mind, I'm like, you guys do that with everything. I mean, that's reality TV. Like, you talk about the stuff that's happening on camera. Like, that's a lot of what Katie and Sassie were kind of annoyed with Kristen about, that she wasn't kind of open on camera about Carter. So it's not like a weird, out of the blue, like, fucked up thing to be like, there are cameras here.

let's talk about something that's, like, happening. Yeah, and I also feel like it kind of was an opportunity for for Jack's to just, like, smooth, you know, like, however he was feeling to say, like, yeah, it's been a struggle. I kind of expected him to say something along the lines of it's been a struggle because, you know, it's Britney's family and they know this guy, but obviously we don't agree with what he says. So, yeah, it took longer because we were kind of like caught between a rock and a hard place. Like, it's kind of like where I thought that was going to go.

But instead it was like, he blew it. up but like to what your your point about saying stuff on camera Tom asked our producer he was like I don't want to be I'm not going to be the one to bring this up I'm not going to be the one to like like hey guys blah blah blah and we were literally told Lisa's talked about it on camera Jackson Brittany have talked about it on camera Stasi's talked about it on camera so if you ask him if you pull him aside I was like definitely make sure you pull him aside like and he was like yeah I would never want to do that like I'm not going to talk to him about something like this like in front of everybody and so it was like it had already been talked about and so he was like okay so then now

I'm just going to ask him directly like what's up off to the side so you know it was never like I'm going to be the one to to do this you know because it had already been a subject of conversation you know what I mean it's almost like from what I saw like little things about houseways of Beverly Hills with like the Denise and Brandy stuff is that when they were at that dinner and Doreet said, this is your moment. Like just say some, you know, say what you need to say. This is your moment. And she was like, oh, they need to cut that. She was like, they're not going to cut it because it's already been talked about. And I'm like, that's kind of how when you're filming, you have to kind of think like it's been talked about. How are they not going to use it? Like, right. So that's

another question of like why jacks was so pissed like everyone knows i rl and also on the show why are you so like what did you think like it was so hush that that that that like yeah it was kind of like a big thing on social media too it's just kind of like one of those things where like you know i think every every year i mean in all of our lives at any time there's negative stuff and it just kind of like i think you know it's it's part of what we do on the show is to just talk about it and it's not fun. Like Tom and I, Tom always says that you know that you're showing up

and like really doing your job filming if you feel like you're going to puke all the time. And I'm like, yeah, like if you have like that anxiety, like stomach, tight stomach ache, like that's like kind of what it is for three months. And it's just, you know, the nature of what we do. How many years are you in Tom together already? We'll be seven in January.

Oh, my God. I know. That's cray cray. You know. So like six and a half in June, I guess. That's crazy. And okay, so back to the reunion for a second in your savageness. Lines that I love that you were saying.

First of all, you said something, you were like, it was amazing. Where you were like, I'm trapped. Like somebody who. Yes. Oh, my God. Because. Wait, what was it, though? Someone said something about being trash?

No, because Jax was like, oh, you think you're perfect or you think you're better. And I'm like, I literally, I literally think I am a piece of shit. So, like, I don't understand this like thing. I get so annoyed when I hear that because I'm just like, that is the furthest thing from like my opinion of myself that I'm just like, fuck you for even like perpetuating that. Like, it's annoying. Yeah. And I just was like, how many more, like, because it's not the first time someone has fucking said shit like that. Yeah, why is that like your take on the show that you're like, is it that people think like what, that you're condescending or you think you're better than them or?

Right. They think that's what I think. And I'm always like, wow, we stand a self-proclaimed mind reader because, wow, no, that is not what I think. Wait, is that when you said the trash thing was that also when you said like I'm on fucking Vanderpump rules? Or was that at a different... Oh, no, that was... I love that too. I think I was the same time.

I was like, I'm a fan of a Bulls. Like, I'm a garbage person, just like every other, you know, garbage person. You were like, how can I think I'm... That was so good. I wonder what Lisa thought about that, but that was so freaking good. I loved it. I think she hate... I don't think she likes it when I, like, kind of...

Talk shit about the show. I don't think she likes it when I, like, lose it, you know? I think she's like, keep it together. I try, you know. I liked it. It's too much pressure to keep it together all the time. Yeah, I don't get why. No, I can't.

Yeah, now that I, you know, feel like I know you a little better, I feel like I wish more of you was shown on the show because I told you when I first interviewed you, I was like, you intimidated me too, like when you first came on. Like I would like, and then after I talk to you, I was like, she is the sweetest, kindest, like, person. person ever. And A, that I feel like it didn't always come out on the show. And I mean, obviously, you guys can't be like, have seven dimensions on a reality show. But I feel like we don't get to see like enough of personalities. You know, like we know Tom like so like shave his forehead, but like we knew that season one. Like I want to know more of the things. I want to know that he doesn't use Instagram. Right. I think it gets harder too because while I do love how having new cast members.

I think that when there's the more cast members. Yeah. The more people there are, it's like the less time you can really spend on any one person and like what they're dealing with or going through and like who they are. I felt like as I love all three of the new girls who were on the show this year. You do? Yeah.

And I just, but I felt like we only just got like little snippets. Dana, Charlie and Dan. Yes. Well, Dana was shown a lot. Right. Danica wasn't and she's a missed, she's a missed. She should have been shown more, I think.

She should have been too. Charlie, I felt like she has so much more to her than what you saw on the show. Dana, you know, even though Dana had like a big chunk of, of stuff on the show this season. Yeah. He's still like more than what you saw. Like she's not just like. I don't know. It's because I talk to her all the time.

Oh, she's not just like hooking up with Max and the other guy. Yeah, exactly. Which I'll never like, I don't need to anymore, but. Right. Yeah. But like I can. But that's crazy. I feel like we're talking about kind of like a show that like was even though there's still,

we don't know what's happening yet. We don't know what's happening. Which, to be fair, that's not abnormal for us. Like, I feel like we usually find things out very. like last minute and so yes obviously you know with COVID there's like an added element of uncertainty so you know fingers crossed yeah because I heard that the the restaurants are closed like all of them tom sir sir is reopening today oh yeah so there's that that's a good sign why were they even closed though do they not have outdoor space the way sir is

set up, is that in the, you have the lounge and then you have the restaurant, right? Yeah. And the restaurant side has a handful of tables in the front that are on a patio, but you'd have to take out, you'd have to take out, I think, half of them in order to be safe with social distancing. You'd probably have to put up plexi, like a lot of restaurants have like the plexiglass in between tables. So like in order to, so to do that and then really only be.

be able to be open for that small number of tables, I feel like you're paying more money to be open than you would make is what I would assume. And Tom Tom is same. Tom Tom is like almost all inside. Right. That's true. They have like a few stools like. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And they have like the back like garden area, but it's still closed in. So I don't think it counts as far as like what the health department is saying you can do for COVID. So is that. So is that. the main reason that you think that's the show like it's because the restaurants are closed and like most of the show is a bad I mean well yeah yeah it's kind of like half and half but they they have said that you know they don't if we were I think okay this is just my personal opinion I think

it would be really interesting for us to be if if it's safe to and you know the crew can be safe the cast can be safe I do think it would be interesting to follow like what life is like right now. However, I understand that, you know, if we're going to film at a place at a restaurant or whatever, like you, A, don't want it to look, have it just be like, what are we going to talk about? Oh, yep, sir, sir's closing in today. I think they want it to feel as vibrant and lively as, as it possibly can, and while also being safe. They're filming houses of New Jersey because I keep seeing like things. So they are filming things, but I guess maybe with, I'm trying to think of like what the difference is. I'm just, you know, we're hopeful that

obviously you are too. Are you guys like anxious? Are you since you're, since you actually don't know, are you like nervous to like find out? Are you like, no, I'll be okay either way. I mean, I think, you know, I think that we'll be okay either way. But I still, I really think I would, that's not saying that I don't, like I want it to come back, you know? Yeah. Like, yeah. Um, I, I really want to. I also think that, I feel like everyone feels that way, right? Like the cast, like everyone really wants the show to come back. I think so.

I mean, I haven't talked about it a whole lot with, with people. But yeah, I think that we have more to show. I think that, you know, I'm really interested in seeing like, you know, the 2020 or 2021 of it all, you know, like we're in a time, like a very. weird time in history. And so I think that instead of pretending like it's not happening, I think it would be interesting to follow that. And I think that too, like we're a lot, so much of the cast is going through so much

crazy stuff right now that I think it would be interesting. Also, the show can evolve like, right. It doesn't have to be like pretend wait a like I'll say it. Obviously it doesn't have to be like we get it started from the restaurant. Like, that was real. We know it was crazy. Like, Lisa, you know, was filming houses of Beverly Hills. They saw the restaurant had hot people that were all hooking up with each other.

And it was like, good. Okay, but you grew up. Like, it can evolve to other things. It doesn't have to keep being the restaurant. Like, we'll be okay. Or I think it can be like a, yeah. And I think, too, like, it can be like a mixture of, like, you know, because I'm friends with Jojo, Valissa, Dana, Charlie,

Danica, you know. When are you friends with Charlie? Why do I feel like this is brand new information? We've never not been friends. We hung out like during filming, but I don't think they showed it really. Yeah. I always like,

I thought she was really funny. Obviously, like there was, it was getting weird. She did have funny moments. Yeah. It was funny to see her have funny moments because they're like, it's always weird with like, obviously like, if,

if you're friends with two people who like aren't getting along or fighting, like that's always hard. But I do. think that, you know, everybody has their place on the show, even the people I don't like have a place on the show. But, you know, I think that that dynamic of, you know, obviously they're much younger than I am and much younger than a lot of the cast. But that doesn't mean that we're like too old to be friends with them or like, we can't relate. Like, you know. Yeah. Your favorite thing.

I can breathe over it. Like, I really can't. I can't. Something's happening and we don't know. Well, they put our, you know, the Vogue magazine, makeup tutorials they do for celebs? No, but tell me, yeah, makeup, they do like a... It's like a celeb being like, this is my skincare routine. Oh, yeah.

So they fucking took Addison Ray and I literally wrote a meme a week ago, which was like, your skin care routine is being 23, like, shut the fuck up. So with Addison, it's being 19. It's being 19. And she's like, I just discovered. No, but listen to this. If you haven't seen that I posted it. She was like, she was doing the thing.

She's like, sunscreen's really important. My friend Courtney gave me. She in the vogue one minute video of the thing. She's trolling you. She's coming for me. So she goes, she goes my friend Courtney. Could you imagine? Oh, my God.

I feel like it's just such a weird thing. So, I mean, obviously it's not weird for you to be friends with, you know, the, how old are they? 23, Charlie and whatever? Like 25, 26, something around there. Okay. Okay. Wait, you're not going to get off the hook of who's hidden. Everyone's hidden?

Everyone's hidden. Except for Tom. Stop saying except for Tom. I don't think you're hiding your boyfriend. Okay. I didn't think that. Okay. So that you already know.

Except for Tom. I'm like, Tom Schwartz. You're like, no, Sandoval. You're like, duh. No, everyone's hidden except for. I feel like Sean. Sheena is not hidden. I have Sheena not hidden.

But everybody else is hidden. So that just means you don't see their stories? I don't see their stories or their post. But like if something's happening, I just text them, you know. But why then, Ariana? Because I wanted to. Okay, so here's the thing. When I first got on Instagram, not when I first got on Instagram, but like when the, when I started like really being heavy into like social media, it was obviously like mostly show related and like posting about like the episodes and stuff like that. And then, you know, I feel like that kind of causes you to like be shown certain things because of the algorithm. And it really is just like make puts me in like a bad mood to just like be reading comments or seeing stuff that's like not nice or whatever. And so.

I was like, why am I even doing this? Like, I understand that a lot of like, like, maybe on Instagram can like sometimes be very much like work related and, you know, stuff about like, you know, if there's something going on, I want to tell people about it or whatever. But like, when I log on, I was like, I made this decision of I want to, in the same way that somebody who follows me or follows you is able to kind of like curate their experience on the app to be like, what are they interested? what do they think it's fun you know what are they going to like get a good experience seeing when

they open up the app i was like fuck it i need to do that like i need to do that so i want to see plants i want to see uh art i want to see haley beber haley beber but i don't want to see stuff that's going to make me think of what do people think of me or or you know and haley beber is like the only, like, really, like, perfect person that I can stand to, like, see in my face every day. So, like, sometimes, like, on my explore page, like, a model will pop up. And I'm sure they're very nice person. And I'm glad that they feel confident in their posting. But I'll just be like, I have to block this person. I just don't want that to, like, pop up. I feel really special. I was saying this before we, I think, started recording is that I feel

special that you didn't hide me. No, I'm like thoroughly, I'm like thoroughly entertained by your stories a and b at this point you're like my only source of entertainment news so i know i was so no it was such a compliment to me because i have a gazillion stories and when you were first saying about like hiding people it's like oh my god she's gonna like hate her life if she sees like the million of lines yeah yeah she's gonna and then i was like wait she's into it yes so everyone's hitting do they know and care because if i was them i would be really a offended for you to hide no oh my god i mean i'm sure maybe they do know maybe they don't i mean i don't i don't know i just text people you know i'm just like oh something's going on with you i'll just

text you as opposed to like seeing your instagram so it wasn't because because like if i i hid like you taught me it so i like hid people since then and it's when there are things come up and they make me feel not good like the way you said about the model like there was this girl on Instagram and I felt like she was like trying to do what I do and I'm a jet like I hate that kind of thing. So like I was like, wait, is this girl like literally like doing what I do? And I was like, I know she's a nice person. I know she. But like if I see it, it's going to make me angry. Exactly. So I rather not see it. Yeah. So is it that kind of a thing? It's not that it makes me angry, but it's like, you know, people who I'm friends with,

But they are also, you know, part of the show, it's like I'd rather just like, at least for the time being, be able to just think of it as to like they're just like my friends as opposed to, you know, especially when there's like a lot of show news that happening or like, especially when the show is airing and it's just very, you know, you get. But you're not friends with everyone. You get caught up in like the whatever happened like however many seven or eight months ago. You get caught back there. So it's like just easier. to kind of be like, la-di-da, look at these plants. Ooh, I love them. Like, literally my feed is just like, like, look, it's just plants.

You're cray-crang. And it's plants. Oh, and like, what is this? NPR, yeah, I don't know. Furniture. Look, urban jungle life. This is just my whole feed is just plants. And I'm like, this is very soothing.

I need to be sued. It is. I'm too mentally unstable for shit that is not soothing on social media. Right. to trigger you, but you're not friends with everyone. Let's, you know, be honest. You're not friends. Are you still not with Jacks, not cool Jacks? Yeah. I mean, I wouldn't say that Jacks and I are friends. No. But like, I'm not going to punch him in the face if I see him or anything. Did you wish them congrats? I texted Brittany, yes. Did you text Sassie? Yes. Did you text Lala?

Yes. Okay. Damn it. Yes. So what do you think of this baby boom? Are you like... It's crazy. It's like kind of... It's crazy as so many babies. I mean, no, but no, you're... No, there's a baby boom going on in the world, too. But I'm talking about...

It's actually true because you always post, too. You'll be like everyone's fucking pregnant. Yeah. Someone got one person DM me and I took that to heart said like, you know, which is obviously their experience and you can't... It's hard to control what people. But one person was like, when you're saying everyone's pregnant, it makes me feel bad because I'm like trying.

So I stopped saying that, like, everyone. Yeah, I understand. But there is a boom. But I'm not talking about the world because in the world that's happening in celebrity world, but in VPR world, I'm saying. Yeah, VPR world has been like back to back to back. Did you think? Because like, I knew it would be like that. If I had to guess, I would be like, everyone's going to get pregnant once something.

They had like joked about it before that they were all going to get. pregnant at the same time. But then I know that Brittany had said that she wanted to wait because she was like, I want to be able to go to y'all's boat. There were Lala and Sassy were both getting married. Oh, she wanted to get like, she wanted to have fun and like, yeah, she was like, I don't want to be like your pregnant bridesmaid that like can't drink. So she was like, I'm going to at least, I'm just, she said that she was going to wait.

But then I feel like once everything started getting postponed for for everybody. Yeah. It was kind of like, everyone was just like. So I don't want to go into your vagina uterus and thing, but does that make you feel any different? Because you've been vocal about not wanting babies. No, it doesn't make me feel any different. I mean, my first, like, actual close friend who had a baby, that was like 10 years ago. So this is like, we're talking like 15th, 16th friend at this point.

Yeah. You know, like congratulations to them all. It's just like it's, you know, it's not like a, I'm 13th. You know, I've had friends with kids for a very long time. True, true. I'm old, like, I'm old like, I'm old. You're still not into it, Mattles. No, I don't, yeah, no.

I watched your, your journey. I know. Well, you know, it's, yeah, it ain't easy, babe. Yeah, no, it's so funny. Like, all of my friends who, who have kids, you know, I think it's different when, because, like, guys who have kids, like dads will be like, oh yeah you know blah but it's just like it's just like when i watch your stories and you're like he has useless nipples and you know for him it's like oh yeah it was so hard but it's like when

you have like close girlfriends like they tell you the real shit like they're like very specific that's what i'm trying to do it really pisses me off because this woman she's actually a really cute actress but for example she just had a baby and she posted her husband holding holding the baby and she wrote like I fell more in love with you seeing you with her child and I was like I hate him more since we had a baby like like like I hate him more like I'm like what did you do why you kept on saying you want this and now you're a piece of shit like and like knock on wood is a very joey thing my husband I have like a really like we're best friends for 10 years like were a couple that like knock on wood like we don't fight since the baby like i hate him and i need

to read the book how to not hate your husband oh i heard about that book someone sent it to me yeah yeah and it's a real thing it's a real thing because of the thing so when that woman wrote yeah that's why it's important for me to be honest i was like when i see him with the baby i'm like you're not holding him right like he needs to be like you're not doing like what's wrong with you yeah i was like that's not but i feel like yeah tom i feel if i had to picture tom he wouldn't be worthless. I feel like he would be hands on. Yeah. I don't know. I feel that's the thing is it's like I don't know. Like I feel like I'm also just like such a

control person that I would be not like helicopter parent, but I would be like, I don't know. I would just be like, I'll do it. I'll do it. They say in the book, right? So they say in the book, I didn't read it, but I read the synopsis which shows you like that I'm serious about the book. That's like part of the problem is that a lot of moms get to be like I'll do it and I try and I do that too because it's you're like I'll just because you can't I'm like that was I'm like that was shit here already like I'll be like Tom can you put your you know shoes away and then I like will leave her and I come back and the shoe just like oh my fucking God I just and I'll be like I'll do it like I'll just put your shoes away and so

it's like I feel like I would just be like that I'm just like that in general you know so are you both like you have two dogs now right two dogs and a cat and then i have two horses and i think i have like 56 plants are you calling them you're as part of your kids the plants no they're okay they just require like daily okay my point is that they require like daily maintenance so yeah but if he doesn't care about them does he care about the plants no he kind of trolls me for them, honestly. And I'm like, well, you're welcome for making our house beautiful greenery. Oh, so what's

happening with the furniture? Is it all there? Yeah, it's been here for like a year. No, I don't know. I mean, on the season it was all about like you're not having furniture. Which was so annoying. Which you hated. I'm like, I couldn't think of a lamer fucking thing to follow

for 21 episodes than that, honestly. It's like, yeah, like this bet here, this this took 12 weeks like i what am i supposed to do be like um so filming ends in august if you could like hurry up and send that shit over like no i can't so i'm having more flashbacks because you were savage during the season too when you were like at the pool party and oh when they said that stasi said the thing the china ended up saying and you were like regina fucking george

Yeah. That was funny. That was one of those things where like, you know, when you're watching a movie and it's like you as the audience, you know, like you can see it, but like the character, like the people that you're watching, like they don't know like what's going on or like what's around the corner. Like that's what that was. I felt like it was one of those like mix up crazy. And I was drinking Celsius and vodka. So Celsius is like this crazy energy drink that I'm obsessed with. but it has like 200 milligrams of caffeine and I was like I got to have like energy like I can't be like oh I'm in a son I'm sleepy so I was like do like a Celsius and like two shots of vodka

in it so by the time we filmed that I mean it was basically like I had drank two four locoes like I was psychotic and then like I immediately walked into the kid I immediately said that outside and I'm like I walked in the kitchen and I said okay Guess what the fuck is up? And like Katie was standing there. It was like right after Katie had hug James or something. And I was like, I just heard that Stasi said this and blah, blah, blah. And then she was like, I can't imagine her saying like, I don't think she would say that.

And I was like, you know what? Maybe she didn't. She probably didn't. Like, I don't want to be mad at her. I just don't want people to fucking talk shit. And then I was shocked that it kind of played out the way it did. She actually hasn't talked shit about you. I feel like ever.

Uh, no. No, I don't think so. Well, I feel like there was that season where she really wanted to be your friend and you were like really close with Katie then. And I remember that she was like, can you just like me? So I feel like specifically with Sassie, like she like you guys somehow didn't like you missed each other kind of. But I feel like she never really talked shit about you. Like, because I do feel like she's like somewhere like really thinks you're cool and would want to be your friend. kind of like missed you because she's like in the other I don't know that's how it felt like to me yeah

I would and I would just hear like her talk shit about Sheena or about Tom or about and I would be like very just turned off by that yeah that's true that's annoying especially with sheena that pisses me off like that scene when you guys were at peter's birthday party the same the same place where tom approached jacks about the priest thing is when yeah yeah is when like Dana I think maybe said down with with the girls and talked shit about China and they were like oh we can always bond over you know talking shit about China and that's like I don't know

I felt bad because again like Sheena you can say what you want to say about China but like again she didn't do anything bad to anyone you know she wasn't a bitch to the girls ever and those are the things the only person she's ever had like a big falling out with on the show was like

me and Tom but like we Like, yeah, when she was like texting my mom and all of that, like all that crazy shit. And so like, you know, I don't think and I and I'm not going to like, you know, we've worked so hard. We like we've gotten so far past that and like we're so much stronger and better friends now. And so it's almost like, well, I'm not saying shit like that about her. So like can nobody else please say shit like that after? Like doesn't mean you have to like get along all the time or like agree. But, you know, making fun of, like, her clothes or hair, her, you know, whatever. I'm always like, that's just, like, low-hanging fruit with anybody. Not to say that I've never done it, but, you know, nobody's... You guys do, I mean, I know it's really shallow of me, but it, you, you, both of you are, like, different vibes, you know, like you and Chena.

It's funny because I feel like, you know, in some ways we are, and then it's like, but we're hanging out, like, just like at one another's homes. or whatever like she's very low key like she's just a very like low key yeah like she smokes pot all day yeah like very very close with her family just kind of like loves to just have people over and cook for them home body like so it's funny because you know see the nails and the hair and the whatever and you you get a thing but it's not it's like Francesca you know surprises us and wait do you smoke pod too I used to back in the day. And then I was in, I sounded like such a GMA right now. Do you do the weed? Do you take any weed? Have you ever taken weed? I used to smoke a lot more like after college. Like in New York, I smoked a lot. And then when I moved to L.A., I was in a relationship for a couple years with somebody who did not at all. And I was like, I can't be like, I can't be sitting here. like high like I'm gonna be so I was so paranoid like that so after like two years basically of

not smoking at all it was like it's like very hard it's like I might have no tolerance anymore one hit and I'm like I'm booked up like I sheena's birthday this year we very by the way like we were tested like we've been very like on top of the testing and the and everything like that and we will space out like if we're going to see anybody like we really space that out make sure that we're quarantining in between but like the reason I say that is because we went and stayed with Sheena at her place in Palm Springs for a couple of days because it was her birthday and we did this like Zoom party that remember when were Zoom parties oh my gosh in the first era of COVID back when people were doing Zoom parties and doing weird shit like that like Zoom

weddings and Zoom this. Yeah, I don't know about it. And I'm glad we're past that. Sheena was like, she got edibles. And I was like, I was like, oh, yeah, like, you know me. I'm like, Sheena, you know me. Like, I'm a lightweight. Like, if I eat this gummy, like, what is it?

She's like, oh, I eat like four or five of those. Like, you can have, like, if you have one, it's like not a big deal. And I was like, it says 10 milligrams. So, like, that seems like, is that a lot? She's like, no, it's like nothing. And I was like, okay, so I eat this gumming. Oh, my God. This gives me anxiety.

And then about 10 minutes into this Zoom. So like Britney's on it. And this is like obviously like this is like right after the reunion aired too. So like tensions were already like a little high. I feel like just between everybody because it was so soon after. Britney's on there. Lala's on there. Charlie pops on.

Like Bo was on the Zoom for a minute. Randall was on. And I just remember being like. I almost like in the movie Get Out when he like goes into like this. That's how my brain felt. And I was like. Oh my God. And all of a sudden I was like, oh my God.

I can't I can't be here. I have to like go lay down or something because I was like everyone's like they're not high. They're like. Yeah. They're like at home on a Zoom. And I'm like here like so I was so. I was like I couldn't do it. So then rock was like playing music.

And I remember being like, you know what, though? They're going to think I'm rude. Like, I should go back out there. And I would go back out there and I'd immediately see myself on the Zoom. It's like, no, I can't. I can't. And, like, I was like, I probably look like, I hope people know how high I am right now because I, like, I truly, it took me literally until the next day also to be normal.

Like, I. Oh, my God. It was so bad. But does it give you anxiety or was it just like sucky? I just wanted to go to sleep so the time would go by faster. I just wanted to go to sleep so that it would be so that I could be like, oh, it's five hours later. Yay. Like that's what I just wanted to fast forward.

Like that's one thing about like things like edibles or. Would you take one again? As much small. I would take like a bite. Was Tom there? Yes. Yeah. Tom was there, but he doesn't do edibles, which,

a second thought, I should have just followed his lead on that. Oh, my God. I should have just stuck to my, I should have stuck to my like truly that I had in like, I don't know. Yeah, weed is. Yeah. I have no tolerance for weed. But as long as it didn't give you, I'm having flashbacks to when I was 15,

growing up in the city, you do drugs early? My friend was like, do you want to do much rooms? I was like, what's that? And she was like, you like, see stuff. So I was like, okay, I'm, by the way, they're disgusting. So we ate them. Oh, I, oh, yeah, mushrooms. I've done mushrooms living in New York.

I took them at, do you remember, let me see. I'm going to tell you what bar it was. You tell your, tell me this, uh, story. And I'm going to tell you exactly. Okay. So I, we didn't know. They were like one eighth. Who the fuck knows what, what that is?

I was like eating the thing. So disgusting. with like icing with Pillsbury chocolate icing fucking what why because to make it less gross we like dunk them in icing so you guys it's not funny I had the worst trip I don't know what a trip is that was my only time because that fucked me up I like all the stories that I heard that were bad about trumes happened to me because I guess they were in my head yeah and fly off a building but I would like did all the other things like I was like I was a mess and And thank God it was at 15, because if it was older, like, it would have fucked me up.

Like, because I was dumb and young, I could be like, that was crazy, like, the next day. Right. Yeah. But today, I would have been, like, in a mental institution. Like, not for me. Literally, when you're young, it's like, you're like, oh, last year was crazy. Right. Like, now it's like, no, like, I'm having an existential crisis.

I would die. I would literally kill myself. Like, I'm not joking. Like, Josh Hartnett. was there in my mind. Oh, my God. Remember how we used to have to play songs on like an MP3 player? Like,

yes. Remember how like on a thing? So the song would repeat if you didn't like change the song. So was Bob Marley's no woman no cry? Till today I can't hear that. Oh my God. It throws me back to the trip. I would hate that's not a good.

That's not a good one to like. No, it's not. It's very depressing. Oh my God. Oh my God. I feel like the bar, okay, so maybe it's gone. You know, this was obviously like over 10 years ago. Yeah.

But it was basically, okay, I could tell you like where it was. It was like seventh and A. And my boyfriend at the time, his friend, this guy, Ben, had started growing mushrooms at his apartment. And so I had never done mushrooms before. And he's like, oh, yeah, I have it. And my boyfriend at the time was like, oh, can I, I'll buy some off of you. And I was like, what are those?

And he's like, my ex is from Oregon. So it's like, he's like used to it. You know what I mean? And I was like, what is this? Like I'm from Florida. Mushrooms are, I feel like mushrooms are very kind of like, like up north or like a Pacific Northwest or like, yeah, in the city, like that sort of thing. so we're like at this bar and then both him and ben uh this guy ben and my ex like they were like oh well we just eat one and i was like okay what's they gonna do and they were like oh if you

just have like just have this like you'll be or like you know like a stem or a you know whatever they say or cap or whatever and so i eat it and then you know we're there we're drinking like PBRs, of course we are, and we're like sitting at the bar. And then all of a sudden, I just remember us all, like, I just started like giggling, like, because that's what you just start giggling, like laughing hysterically. And then I was like, well, my God, why is that funny? And they're like, oh, yeah, mushrooms. And then we like took photos in a photo booth at the bar. That sounds like a fun experience. I almost died. Yeah, no, this one was fun. But I, but like, I, I can't go back. But then we ended up like walking around the East Village and I found like a scary looking

Elmo doll in like a claw game or something. I don't know. It was like Narnia. Like the East Village was Narnia all of a sudden. But like that's the kind of thing that like I feel like, however, if I was doing that now, I don't know if I would have the same like, oh, this is crazy and funny and we're just going to walk around and I'd be like scared. I don't know. I think like with age comes like fear younger right no a hundred percent a hundred percent yeah comes so many fears you have shit to lose now you're like I can't fuck with this it's very flashbacks of like anyway I'm like couldn't feel my legs I was like this is so funny I can't feel my legs like today I'd literally die you know like I'd be like take me to the hospital like no I can't oh my god

Ariana. I feel like we didn't get to talk about a lot of things I want to talk to you about because we talked about mushrooms and things. Yes. But you're lucky because I would have asked you, you know, scandalous. Yeah, hard shit. Oh my God. Is your hair still pink or did the pink go away?

I think it's a still has a little bit. Like in the- Ballet, but. Yeah, I'm working on the ballet today. But. I can't. Wait, so do you think Haley? Beeper got her butt like done or no is that the rumor is that she no i don't know it became so

perfect overnight i don't know what to think oh well she's always had i feel like a perfect but but wait a few weeks ago there were pictures of her on the beach with kendall and her butt was pretty like there it was popping so i feel that that was the photo that i was like wait did she always have that plumpy, maybe she's, lumpy of a plump. Doing her squats or maybe she's like gained a little weight and it went to her butt.

Of course it went to her butt. God, dang it. Ugh, she's so perfect. I can't. It's not fair. Just go straight to her butt, but like her size are just like

perfect, no cellulite, just like muscular. And she's like, oh, I gained a little way and I went to my butt. She's like a little athletic. Like her shoulders are a little broad. It's just like the perfect, the perfect thing.

She has like the like slightly muscular yet also like needle arms that I would die for. Like I'm like, oh my God. I love your. Her arms are so nice. Did you just say needle arms? Yeah. I'm like, I don't want this. I want like.

Babe, don't even talk to me right now. The bone that comes out. Don't even talk to this like postpartum as. Oh my gosh. walked down the street and I like see my ass and the reflection and I feel like it's three blocks behind me. That's what I feel. But body positivity, everyone. Listen, we all got our days. We have our days. And we have our days. We have our things. We have our days. We have our things. We have our days. Yeah. We have our things. We have our days. And at least we're not. But we're healthy and we're here. And that's

important. But Haley Bieber. But Haley fucking Bieber. So the book is still doing really, well. Yeah. Yeah, it is. F, you guys, if you haven't picked it up, it's a perfect time

since we're still in fucking quarantine and make some cocktails. Honestly, that's what's so crazy. I'm like, what's super cool is how often people will be making drinks at home right now and sending me photos and it's really cool.

I love seeing that. Didn't the girl like do a whole thing and TikTok thing and like make every cocktail? Oh my God. Yes. Her account is F-A-F lockdown cocktail. and she's like working her whole way through the book. She's amazing. Yeah.

She went to my high school, which is such a crazy thing. That is great. Very. I was like, Julia. That's so weird. That's so cute, though.

It's so cute, though. Is there anything else that's happening that you want to tell us about? Are you coming out with a skincare line? Eventually. There's so much going on that there's many irons in the fire. And hopefully I'll be able to kind of like unleash. them all in the world soon. So, yeah.

That's so exciting. Lots of seeds have been planted, you know, and the thing is, is it's like I learned my lesson with kind of like talking about something before I have like a solid like launch date or like, you know, I've learned my lesson because people like if you say something and it doesn't, it's not there right away. They're like, excuse me, like where is it? So I'm trying to be a little more responsible in that sense. But I am really excited.

So sometimes it's, like, hard to keep it together. But hopefully in the next... Are you saying, Amanda, you could probably get it out of me if you, like, insist. Or are you saying... I'm saying I'll DM you about it. That's so exciting. I'm so happy to hear. And I can't wait to know what's going to happen with, you know, my favorite Bravo show,

especially because, like, what the fuck is happening with Bravo? Every other day, someone's getting fired. Someone's leaving a show. I'm like, are they doing... Like, what? is happening. I can't wait to know what's happening as well. And obviously, I'll probably find out when you find out. They, right. They really don't know. They really don't know. Yeah, they don't tell us. Thank you so much for coming on again. Thank you for having me. You have to give baby Noah a little

kiss for me. I will. It was so nice to have an hour without baby Noah as cute as he is. Yeah, I bet. Okay, babe. Thank you so much. Everyone go by Fancy A.F. Cockt and and stay open-eyed and open-eared to what's to come with Ari. Yes. Thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of Not Skinny but Not Fat. Follow me on Instagram at Not Skinny but Not Fat. Subscribe to the podcast. We don't miss any episodes.

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