Not Skinny But Not Fat - WHERE DID THE FAT JEWISH GO?

Episode Date: March 5, 2024

Josh Ostrovsky aka THE FAT JEWISH made waves on social media starting in 2011. He is the OG of memes and utter ridiculousnesses. His fame skyrocketed in 2015 when he became an entrepreneur, opened his own business and then pretty much disappeared from our lives (aside from the occasional meme). Well today he shares what he’s been up to since, what his life looks like now that he’s a dad, and he gives me tea about major celebs from P Diddy to Bradley Cooper!!!Produced by Dear MediaThis episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct, or indirect financial interest in products, or services referred to in this episode.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Tuesday and just feel like you're talking with your best friends in your living room. That Jew is here. Hi. Does anybody call you that anymore? Yeah. Yeah? Yeah?

Not like friends and stuff. Like people on the street? People on the street for sure do. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But like people I know. Yeah. A lot of like Jew, which can be problematic. Because they're like in the streets, they're like, Jew!

And people are like, oh my God. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. It's me. It's like we're friends. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, you have two offensive words in your handle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to stack as many as possible. I'll add a third. Give me a third. What should be the third? I'm down. No, because you're a pioneer.

Like, I started memes with like gross word. Yeah. Trigger word. But I was like late. I was after you, fuck Jerry, therapist. You know But like you inspired me Some kid like came out to you on the street Whose name was like Swag Jesus

The Drip God or something Who was like 11 And he was like yo he was like He was really really trying to be nice Like he was really trying to feel me But he didn't know how badly he hurt me emotionally Because he was like yo You're like an OG man

You're like a legend like when I was a little kid Like I loved your shit And I was like when you were a what A what? When Like in 2015? Oh right No, in 2015, you were eight. Right. Because now you're 17.

Well, because, like, we are, spoiler alert in 2024. He made me feel, I was so washed at that moment. And when did you start? Like, 2013? They think I'm like the Abraham Lincoln of means. Like, really, they're like this man. No, you died. Yeah.

I'm telling you, you're Tupac. Honestly, it's incredible. Wait, what did you ask? Oh, you started in 2013. Yeah, something like. I love to have cards for this. Something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, because before that, I was like, doing mostly like, weird super off the wall. I used to, like, write for Vite. and do like really insane ultra offensive videos that were meant for like 600 people that liked vice. You know what I mean? Like me and like a Hasidic guy

like smoke angel dust and like see what happens. You know what I mean? Wait, is that a real video that happened? A lot of this shit has like been lost now to time but yes, that was a real thing. That has been lost to time and removed. I believe so, yes.

Really? But then Instagram came out and I was like, wait. And at first I was like, I don't think this is for me because the stuff I was putting up was like so offensive because you can't put up like a stiletto jammed in a urethra and stuff you know what i mean like the stuff i that i was where were you

posting that stuff i would put up on instagram and then they would like take it down yeah and then i got kicked off and actually originally i was fat jew but i kept getting kicked off and they wouldn't give me my handle back so i kept him to switch and then i was just like i guess i'll be fat jewish oh yeah because i was originally fat jew so then i threw a protest which you can still find online the third time i got thrown off i chained myself up outside the the facebook instagram offices which were on like ninth and broadway at the time yeah and i got like like a permit so I had like cop you get cops and barricades and like a whole thing and like my rabbi came and like all these all these freak shows like drove in from pennsylvania like come and like

it was a whole rally and they were like free fat you and then what did you post that got you taken down I don't remember specifically that time but it was like the third time and then like 15 minutes after I was chained up and I was coming to be here for days and then like 15 minutes later some girl was like you're back on and I was like no like refresh your page and then she was Right. I was back on. But then I kind of like learned to play by the rules and I actually realized that this would like mainstream me in a way that I was never going to be able to do like when I was like posting videos of smoking angel dusts with haseeds for vice. Like going to. Yeah.

One time we went to a rave. There's like all these like Puerto Ricans in the Bronx who think they're vampires. Like they sleep during the day and like they have full fangs and they throw raves. I know. It's like a whole. Yes. And I like hung out with them. But like that this is like super fringe subculture shit. And I was like you know. But I don't feel like now like maybe you were ahead of your time. Yeah, yeah. Now it's much more, like, there's a dock on everything. Right.

Like, there's literally a doc about every single subculture on the planet. You could have just an Instagram or TikTok dedicated to the vampire. No, it would be like, Puerto Rican vampires doing things. And people would be like, people would be like, this is boring. Like, I've seen this. But at the time, people were like, oh, this is like super edgy and like subculture. But then I was like, wait a minute. I actually think this would be sick to go like full.

Let's see how far we can take the like offensive name. Like, let's see how mainstream we can go. Yeah. So you went mainstream. Super mainstream. You were hosting, like, things for E. All kinds of shit. Like, you were, you were.

It was on E. I hosted an IHeart Radio award show. No, shut up. All kinds of shit. Yeah. I presented an award at the VMAs. Like, they said, it was, you know, because I guess at the time, like, they were, like, down. I don't know.

A lot of them were like, like, do we have to say that Jewish? But, like, they got over it. They got over. Yeah. Yeah. Because, like, it was a, it was a thing. Wait, because your real name is Josh Horrah. What?

Did you just pick a Jewish. last name. Josh Horowitz? That's the name of like a movie critic on MTV. Okay, I'm going to go. I'm going to head out. What's your last name, Goldstein-Sernbergerwitz? What did you just make up a name?

You were like, you're Jewish. Horowitz, yes? No, that's not. Oshrovsky. Yes. You don't give a Stravsky. No, it's trash. No, is it Russian?

Yes, my dad was born in Russia. It's one of the trashest. I had a kid on purpose now, and... His name is on your head, buddy. His name is buddy. And I gave him, I gave him her last name. I saw that. He's like, no, you're not, no one needs this.

I don't need a Verizon representative being like, oh, yes. Like, I can't. You don't need a podcast. I was doing it wrong. Yeah, no. Wait, but don't you feel like you should continue the lineage? No. Really, you had nothing of that?

No, my brother has like a bunch of like boys and like they all have the last name. So it'll be fine. Oh, okay. My parents were super pissed. Oh, they were annoyed? Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because his last name is king, because I was like, look.

First of all, you don't give up that kind of last name. Well, I'm talking to, like, two 75-year-old Jews, and I'm like, you need to understand that this child is a brand, okay? And when you're naming a brand, you don't name it. And they were like, what the fuck is wrong with you? They were like, it's not a brand. And I was like, is it, though? But you don't post him, so he's not really a brand.

No, he goes on close friends. You want to get on me? Oh, I do. It's wild. It's loose on there. Oh, my God. Because on there, a lot of, I've had group talks being like, guys, if anyone reports me, like, I know all 212 of you, and I will come after everyone if something gets reported. Wait, so Instagram, so that means that your shit gets taken down only if people report you.

Yeah, pretty much. Not if like, no, now it's like more like AI based. They have like robots that, but it used to be people would like, like, like haters would report you. And they'd be like, there's a micropenus. And I was like, it's my body. Like, let me be, let me show my body. But people don't know about you is that you're smart. Well, the theory is like set the bar insanely low.

Right. And then when they meet you, they're like, oh, you're way, you're less stupid than I thought you were, which is all I'm really going for. You went to NYU. I did. Got kicked out, though. I did. Why? But you got in.

I mean, that's what you found. Yeah. Yeah. I was just like doing sick shit. Like, I was just like doing like super college stuff. Actually, NYU I didn't really want to go to because it was actually stupid because I grew up in the city. And I realized while I was there, I was like, wait, like, I should be, like, you know, getting a UTI and, like, playing Flip Cup. You know what I'm saying?

And then NYU's not that. Yeah, yeah, it's not that. And I was, like, hanging out with, like, the biggest degenerates that I went to high school with. Where you were to high school? Oh, really? A private school. Oh, yeah. Okay.

Yeah. My parents are doctors, Dr. Horowitz and Dr. Horowitz. Yeah, my two Jewish doctor parents. But I was like, wait, I want, like, more of that. But then I, then they also were like, we don't want you to come back. Private school in the city is Dwight all boys? No. Wait, so private school in the city is like, what's the vibe?

Like the world's worst humans. What do you mean? Right? Like insane human beings. Like, I'm proud that I went to public school in the city. The kids that I know who are going to public school are doing way better. Yeah. Like emotionally.

Like some of the private school guys make like tons of money, but like they are so unwell. Yeah. Like public school people are much like, I mean, everyone's unwell. But they're less unhinged and like more tethered. Right, right. Wait, but Skidmore is also like, not the vibes then. No. You went there too. So many bad choices. So many bad choices. Like you went to like kind of nerdy schools for you. So many poor choices.

Wait, so Skidmore, I just think of like. Skidmore, they were like, you got to get the fuck out. They just saw you. NYU was like, you're not going to, you may not be invited. Like it was like a whole. They were like, it wasn't that big of like, they were like, please don't come back. Like we're not going to stop you, but please don't. Skidmore was like, you need to get a taxi. And then where'd you go? There were no Ubers. So then I was like, you know what? I'm going to go. I was like, what am I doing? Like, why don't I just go full insanity and just pick the craziest place I can go to school?

Yeah. And so I decided to go to SUNY Albany because it's just filled with unbelievable Guidos. Like the world's greatest Guidos. That's why I didn't want to go there. No, that's a, that's a choice. Because let me tell you. Because they had like never met a Jewish guy. Really?

Yeah. I mean, there were like Jews there who tried to recruit me when I got there, who were like to recruit you as what? Like into like the scene. Like, you know, you're picking a scene. Yeah, yeah. And they were like, you know, crunchy Jews, like taking bong hits with dreads and stuff. And I was like, you know what?

I got to get completely out of the lane. And they were like, where are your curls? Like, where's your hat? And I was like, no, I'm not that kind of Jew. And they were like, there's other kinds of Jews. And I was like, this is going to be amazing. So I had never met like an uncircised person and they had never met a Jew. And so it was kind of like a magical.

So I joined like a full Guido squad of like Staten Island maniacs. Wait, is that? Is that when Padju came up? Sort of, not really. Because before any of it, I was in a rap group. And we were signed and, like, went on tour and, like, did a whole bunch of wacky shit. And, like, we were kind of ahead of our time. And there was no social media really at the time.

It was, like, 2008 or nine. I mean, there was. There was, like, Facebook. Yeah. But, like, we were doing so much awesome insane shit that now I think would probably have been a huge thing. Yeah. But we, there was no way to, like, I mean, maybe it was for the best because some of it was not okay. And by some of it, I mean, all of it was not okay.

And then after that, I like, I quit because I was like, I can't do this. We were sort of like, I don't know. I wanted us to be like full LMFAO and just like be ridiculous. I just see that. I tried to do that before they did that. But the guys I was in the group with were like, we're artists. Like we're musicians. And I was like, fuck right off.

But where's LMFAO now though? Where are they now? One of them I think was hosting like Australia's got talent, I believe, at some point. That's a job. Yeah, it's a job. Yeah. Like doing stuff. Doing stuff.

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choke me and like the whole point was to like make insane stuff happen because they were were like going to get canceled and like needed some people to talk and they could like live on the edge because they were fearless I guess yeah and they were like let they were like we're going down so let's put this guy on to you yeah it was a really wild idea I give them a lot of they were really ahead of their time and no who knew I was at at that time outside of like weird weirdo rap fans so it was definitely an edgy move but I like what I got dragged off the red carpet in a speedo for trying to like give carry maybe I think I smelled carry under what's hair or something from behind, I got physically removed.

Yeah, all kinds of wild shit. It was a lot of like me getting choked. Yeah, but it was good for the show and then like press would write about it. And then they got canceled. Did you start your Instagram at that point thinking like a little bit after that? Yeah, I love like, because then I was like let's, like I was saying before, I was like, let's, let's go mainstream because I'm like there are eight year olds and 80 year olds on this. Right.

And I was only really talking to like vice fans who were in their 20s. Yeah. Like 20 year old edge lords, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I was like, let's see how like, let's see how like, let's see how far. we can push this because it was almost like a joke like let's see where we can go with this and it blew up we took it way farther than i took it like so much farther than i thought it would go really yeah it was like so weird there were like kids coming up to me yeah like come you know what i mean

i just remember this like one like really young girl came out to me she was like yo fat you what's up and i was like what's like you're not even really as fat as i thought it's a disappointment and i was like what first of all okay first of all thanks second of all like kind of like kind of fucked up i should get fatter. And third of all, like, how do you know who I am? Like, you're seven. Yeah. And then I was like, oh, wait, because, like, Instagram is like, that's the thing. And this was probably, like, 2013. And I was, like, making, I did a, I did a video where, like, homeless people rode. Right. Yeah, the soul. Which somebody just did again recently. Homeless people wrote a soul cycle cycle. So city bikes, like, they turn when they're stationary.

Like, you can pedal. So I was, like, had, like, a face mic and was, like, teaching full spinning classes to homeless people because I was like homeless I want homeless people in New York to have like dick lines and like shredded abs wait how did you summon them we just like went around in the street so yeah and we're like you you're you're you're hot you could be hotter and they were like great and then you made a video and it went like crazy went super crazy yeah and it's funny because now that's like it's good I'm really glad like that's all the kids do now but back before then people weren't doing like wild things no it was it just wasn't as wild that's right a lot of your stuff were memes were you into like writing and stuff

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I had written in between rap and like, during like the E time, I wrote a bunch of like, wrote a bunch of pilots and like a bunch of shit. And you wrote a book. I did write a book. I didn't really want to write a book, but they were like, here's so much money. And I was like, okay. So I like wrote a book. Yeah. And then they were like, what? It was actually a good story because I was like, how can I sell the most? Because I wanted to get, I wanted to be number one in the New York Times bestseller list. Did you get it? No. And actually I got the complete opposite and banned for life. Because I threw a rave. I. I partnered with Forloco. I'm very good friends with the guy who invented Forloco who mixed it in his bathtub, like whatever it is, like the poison that it is. And I threw a rave and you got free Forloco and you got a free book. And it was like, I did like three of them. And I think I must have, with that as sales, Forloco bought like 30,000 books. And we gave them all away.

And I was like, I'm getting millennials to read. Yeah. And then we submitted it in the New York Times was like, you sold 30,000 books. Like the next, the next highest one was like eight. Yeah. It's like no one reads a book. Right. And they were like something.

is not right here and so they like looked into it and then they were like oh you can't do that you can't give your books way to rave in your band for life so honestly kind of proud of that's pretty sick you're like at least it's i'm on some kind of list that's what i'm saying right i'm on the blacklist yeah like i'm down i'm really down it was i think it was like a disappointment to my parents because they like never have they like so hard for them to understand what i'm doing yeah at any i mean this man was born in russia like he's literally like what are you doing like running around on a woman's bathing suit. Yeah.

Like making... They can't. They can't. He was like, what are, like, be a podiatrist. Wait, and what's your brother like then? Honestly, it sounds like a bit, but it's really not. Like, nerdy. Direct gene split down the middle.

Super buff. Used to be an amateur bodybuilder. No. Huge dick. We always say we like split the jeans down the middle. He's like not unfunny, but he's like not, he's like a kind of a, he's an adult man. Yeah. Who like worked at the Pentagon for a long time and had like...

Wait, did you ever have a real job? Not one time. No, zero dollars. No, I'm serious. No, not one time. Did you walk into an office and have like... No, no, literally I'm not sure. Oh, no, I worked at a pet store once for like two months.

But now no one has jobs. I invented not having a job just for the record. But like, you got to think for a Russian radiologist, he was just like, you are like a homicidal, homosexual mania from outer space. And like, this is bad. Like, this is really... Did your mom get it more? So my mom is like a, my mom like has like a lot of, she's like got a whole army of like gay Asians and she wears like, she's very upper west side. She has like, you know, glasses that are like yellow and purple with like chunky statement necklace.

Sort of like a Luann vibe, but like more garbagey. Yeah. Springs and rusty shit. So she was kind of like, yes, like live your dreams. Like be a woman. Do whatever you want. But also like can you do it on the weekends? Because like what if?

Like trying, you know what I mean? Yeah. Like what if you had a job? Totally. Like a regular job. And then. She was like, I love. Love it, live it, but like, what if it was on the weekend?

And I was like, okay, this is a better approach. You're like, no, I'm committed. You're committed. They just didn't get it. And then later they were just like, what the actual fuck? Like, what is real? Like, how is this possible? It was really crazy to watch two boomers be like, what?

Like, watch the future descend into them in real time. They just were like, can't understand. So they put all their hopes and dreams into the other kid. Wait, so when you say that you went down to the bunker because you made a lot of money, this is from your drink company, right? You had the white girl rosé. So we did wiker rosé and then we had a, we put out, we decided to be like the first real, like. There's no, white or rosay popped off.

Super. Like, that was like before everybody was doing. So we hadn't even bought. We were like, let's just put it out. Let's mock up a bottle, pour other rosé into the bottle and make it look. We had zero rosé. We didn't own any rosé. We just made the label and made the bottle with like, we poured like a bottle with Green Angel.

Just because the name was good. Put it out on Instagram and then fresh direct called like a day later. and it was like, we need 20,000 bottles. And we were like, definitely, like, we've got you from the warehouse. And then we were like, we need to make rosé. Like right now, like, where do we, we're going to have to get some rosé to do this. Because at the time, like, there was no brand of rosé, right? Like, people were like, give me rosé, give me something pink.

Like, I'm going to a pool party. But no one cared about a brand, really. Especially, like, young people who were just getting fucked up. Yeah. The rosé wave was like really, so I was like, I was like, you know, you make, like vodka and shit. Like people know what they like? You know what I mean? People are like, I like tito's.

Right. Like, Rose, you were just like, make it pink, make it cute. Right, right, you didn't know. You didn't go the fuck about a brand. So I was like, you know what? Let's just completely lean into this. We then ended up doing carbonated rosé in a can. That that's babe now?

Wait, still bit. You sold that when you said you sold stuff, you sold Babe. I sold Babe. And white girl. White girl doesn't exist anymore. Okay, it turned into. They like dissolved it. I sold it to Anheuser Bush, like to Budweiser.

Oh, wow. That's what I'm saying. Yeah. You're like, no, a lot of money. No, no, no. Yeah, a lot of money. No, no. And then I was like, I want to just do eccentric shit for like a few years.

And I also like- But without anybody knowing, so how does it count? Right. No, because honestly, because that was kind of what I was into. Because I was like, everyone's just sharing everything. Also, some of the things I was doing are like not suitable for like Gen Z consumption. You know what I mean? Like they would be so upset. Like some of the things would be like not okay.

Like they're just not. I'm just like, I'm, you know. Wait, you left New York. I left New York. I live in Miami, but I have an office because like it's the sluttiest place in the planet. And you need to be where it's. slutiest. I just like, it's just so dumb there that it's like incredible. But I have

an office here and like I like to smoke cigarettes on the street with my friends from high school. Yeah. I can't let that go. So you come back. But I also had a kid and I was like, you know what? Like I should probably, I guess, be around. Your parents a little bit? What? Oh, around your kid. Yeah. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So I like did the thing like, took acid, traveled around, like did

ridiculous, you know, Hansel from Zuland or shit, whatever. And then at some point I was like, all right, I'm going to like try to actually be an adult parent man are you yeah i mean kind of like i'm making like insane like my background is like my kid with like a cigarette in his mouth you know what i mean and like i'm like i make insane content and you he has a mullet i like because of you or you're that's because of you're not married right it's all because of me no i am married oh you guys got married we did get married we got married here let me show you so like i like covered him in like fake blood and put him in a cage like i got to get content out of this where is this happening on close friends yes that's what i'm saying add me also i'm

I'm doing a series where I put him in different trash cans. No, you're not. Yes. But this is just for fun for you. Kids are garbage. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm not like making money off this. But now I've, but now he's like about to go to school.

He's three years old. Yeah. So he's like going to go to school. So I'm on some like, okay, time for me to like get. I'm going to like get back in the mix. Yeah. So now I'm getting back in the mix. Wait, what kind of mix?

I bought a monster truck leak and I'm become, I'm going into like monster trucks because like nothing's more cool than monster trucks. And like everyone loves. To race them? You know, it's like a whole league. It's like Monster Jam, but like we're going to... Oh, you're going to be a driver? No, I'm like the, I'm going to be like the guy.

The sponsor? I'm not, like the owner. Like I'm on some like talking shit, like promoting it. Wait, is this happening already? Like Vince McMahon before he like shit in that person's hair the other day. Wait, that's in the works. I already bought it. The Monster Truck.

Bought a Monster Truck League. It's a real thing. Oh, a whole league you bought. Oh yeah, I own trucks. I got the whole thing. Does that happen in Florida? They're based in Grand Rapids, Michigan. But I'm like, I don't know.

Your kid likes Monster Trucks? he's got it. Yeah, actually he wants that for his fourth birthday. Everybody likes monster trucks. I don't even know he knew what they, it was. And I said, what do you want your fourth birthday to be? And he goes monster trucks. Yo, I'm telling you. No, I'm serious. And like adults like it, like it's impossible to not like a monster truck. It's so fucking sick. Yeah. So I'm going to be like, you know, I'll be like, I don't know. I'm like stand on top of the trucks and scream and we're going to go completely nuts. But what about like the internet? Like your Instagram. Like doing my Instagram? Yeah. What are we, what are you going to do at this point? You

want to be a creative director? Like what? It's all been done. Yeah. Like, what am I supposed to do with it? Except I always laugh because you do pop in and post some memes from time to time now. Like, I'll hit stories. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, the stories, yeah. And you'll post like, you're obsessed still with Ben's back tattoo.

Well, no, I'm just obsessed with Ben Affleck. You want to talk about Ben Affleck? Yeah. Okay. Ben Affleck is our only good celebrity. Stop. Well, not counting like Sonia Morgan and, like, Karen from Real House as a Potomac. Like, those are the three greatest celebrities we have.

Why is he the best? Because he doesn't give a fuck. He doesn't give a fuck. So one thing I do still do is I'll go to like, if they're going to throw cool celebrity parties and I can still go, like, I'll go because I want to like look. So like he's just at every party, like smoking cigarettes and being like I hate it here. Like everyone else is like it's such a good time. Like everyone's posturing and having a great time. He's on some like, I literally am going to kill myself.

I'm going to go. But why does he go? I don't know. He's like smoking and just like so pissed. Also he only speaks Spanish at home. No, he doesn't. Yes. his middle name is like something weird. Look up his middle name. He has Spanish in him. He's apparently spoken fluent Spanish for like the last 30 years and he only speaks in the home. There was something going around that like people were saying he speaks better than JLo. He does. No, no, that's like a thing. No, his Spanish. Wait, what's his middle name? Yeah. Fire. Great. Then at like low key Latino. No one knows. That's what. So do you get angry? No, for real. Like when you see everyone being like he's so angry and at award shows they zoom in and the memes.

Don't you feel like standing up for him? No, because like, what? This is like what you have to do. This is why being famous is trash. Yeah. It's a trash time to be famous. It really, really is. Yeah.

Like, I have some, like, legit celebrity. Like, most of the people that I would ever know from entertainment are, like, the most zealous celebs. Like, I surrounded myself with, like, only people like me, like full zealisters. No, that's not true. You have celeb friends. But the ones I have that are actually celebs, they're like, this sucks. Like, the cool people. Can't do anything.

The cool people. would think that it sucks. Yeah, and also you're just like everyone is, you know, everyone's a paparazzi. Like, it's just like you're, like, everything's everywhere. Like, you can't. And like, I get it. Like, you're rich. So there's like, everyone's like, boo-hoo, fuck you.

Like, deal with it. But it's definitely not that fun. It's not, yeah. No. And you can't, like, barf all over the place and, like, you know what I mean? Like, six shit celebs used to do. But I feel like you do need to be, like, obviously you have this, like, personality. What do you think I should be doing?

Like, I feel like you should be talking more. I'm down. But then like. Like, you should have a podcast. You know what I mean? I know. Really early on in podcasting, I was going to do it. How did you?

How many podcasts? Right. Now it would be lame. How many podcasts? No, no, it would be so lame. If you came out with the podcast, now it would be like. Are you so late stage? You'd be like, I'm dropping a podcast?

That's nuts. You're like everyone? Hold on. No, that's literally, it's an insane thing to do. I had a show on Sirius for a long time. I could see. Yeah. But it was on like Diplo has a channel.

Diplo has a channel. He does. Called like Diplo's Reve, dance revolution like something insane and he gave me a show and he was like you can do whatever you want and not that many people were it wasn't like because there's obviously a billion channels yeah and like who's listening to serious and who's subscribed right like you have to subscribe but they let me do anything I want so I was like prank calling Bono like any phone numbers I can get my hands on prank calling celebs has been like a gift like it's been one of my

wait how do you get their numbers variety of ways I used to get them a lot from like girls especially male celebrities from like women that they had had sex with like seven, you were like, so then we'd like get drunk and we'd like talk about this and they'd be like a bunch of leachy martinis in and be like, do you want like, and then just like, wait, were you getting a lot of girls during your height of time? Yeah. I mean, I was like, yeah, I was like having, partying and. Yeah, I was having fun. I mean, at one point four local fully sponsored me. So like things were completely out of control. Yeah. And I like was blackout drunk all the time and had diabetes at like two o'clock in the afternoon at a pool party in Tucson. And then also,

then the rosé happened. And I had to like walk around every party with a bottle with a straw and I like drinking the entire bottle. So there are years that are gone, but it was pretty fucking fun, but what's net? Like, so I'll own a monster truck league. I'm going to do that. Go crazy with it, but then like, what kind of celeb stuff? Should I just like, what should I do? I know. What is there left to do? Right.

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Everything about her has always been incredible. Really? Never not. Wait, how many mugshots does she actually have? Six. Wait, those are for real the different times she was in jail. But look how fucking incredible she is. No, she, that is wild. Like, no shame. And, like, the spray tan is kind of the same in every.

No shame on anyone in this room, but go to jail, get a mug shot and you will not be, like, she's like fucking going off. She looks incredible. She really does look good. What? Have you hung out with her? Are you serious? She was like one of these celebrities. I, I DM'd with her a bunch times, but a lot of the, not a lot, but there were a bunch of celebs who were, like, scared of me.

Because they thought that, like, the minute I got that I was going to do something like insane and like try to like, you know, whatever, like, troll them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like Kim has, Kim will moonwalk out of any room that I'm in. Really? This bitch will moonwalk directly out of the room. I'm just like, bye. Because she's just like, what's he going to do? I don't want to be part of this.

Yeah. Like, what's the big fat clown baby man going to do to me to like get Instagram views? Wait. Yeah. Most of them didn't, but some of them were like, no. And Lindsay, remember her, remember the accent? That was wild for a minute. Incredible.

No, she turned straight, like she was yelling in Arabic, like she was in a desert. Some kid was running away. She was like a whole thing. She was British. She was like an emirati. I talked to her mom a lot on Facebook. I think she's still an Emirati. She's an emirati.

But then she like came back to America. I was like, I'm Lindsay Lowen from Long Island. And everyone was like, what? I think she were British emirati. I talked to her mom on Facebook, Dina. Dina is like a treasure. Does she spill the tea? No, she will not, but we like talk about her boyfriend and like her, I don't know.

Are you her therapist? Yeah, kind of. It's more of like a therapy situation. But we don't talk about Lindsay. Wait, so we started talking because of Hillstone. I want to give a minute to Hillstone. You're wearing Hillstone. merge man-made you made it man-made man-made not hillstone made and you still you don't get the

respect you're saying no because hillstone here's like not an app they won't send you an app when you're as killer as hillstone you ride no one's dick they ride no dick I know you can't like you have no no they don't chalk anybody I'm telling you Benny Hana now in a couple occasions know me and when I come in they're like oh my god and they gave me like custom chopsticks with my name engraved on them and they did a home bachi at my house where they brought a they did a whole banyhan at my house walking a hillstone they're on some like sir like shut the fuck up no like they're on some like first of all like you're welcome yeah and second of like it'll be three and a half hours like and i'm on some like and they're like are you serious isn't it funny in new york where they'll

look you dead in the eye and say like it'll be three and a half hours that's like they're literally like no but she'd like it could it could be 315 yeah and you're like oh okay okay the ones in the way don't just wait around the corner Miami has two, and they're easier to get into. So it's like more of a thing. But so the reason we, so the update now, have you had it? So the reason we like really started connecting spiritually. Oh, me and you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Was because they took the steak out of the Thai steak noodle salad. I know, but you lost me in that you think that the pork is good. I haven't tasted yet, but I do something Jewish in me. I'm not kosher at all. Like I'll eat bacon. But like straight up pork shreds, like haven't been my vibe. Well, when you say it like, like pork sheds.

shreds, yeah. How do they call it? Like damp pork shreds? No, it's like pulled pork. And it's good. Oh, pulled pork. Here's the thing, nothing will ever be the steak and the Thai steak noodle salad. Like, we're never going to get back to glory. Yeah.

But the fact that they were just, for a while they were putting chicken in it, like the disrespect. Wait, is there a hillstone in Florida? They're two in Miami. Well, here's so what I'm doing is that. That's why you went to Miami. Me, that's why I went to Miami because there's two. Equidistant from my house. Now, I'm like, it's slutty and stupid.

You're like, there's two hillsstones. Yeah. But now what we're trying to. to do me and my, me and my wife is we're trying to go to every, it's because there's hillstones, there's Houston's, and then there's the grill series. The Beverly Grill, which they have in LA. There's a lot of grill series. Oh, there's, okay. Oh, yeah. So I just went to Colorado and I did, I was able to do three properties like in two days. Like I went to. When you say me and my wife were doing, I know this is a silly question. You're just doing it. It's not for like any

content. No. It's not for a real, not for addictive. Like, that's just your, what you're doing. I think that might just be like my age too. Like just like I'm, I think I'm from. partially from like a bit of an era where like not all every single stupid thing you did had to like be shared with everybody some of it I'm just like I'm just doing to like be at because I'm actually like living this dumb yeah that's the thing is a lot of the like people you meet who make content they're not actually interesting or fun right like some of them are brain dead and they're just like what's the next thing for content you know what's wild is like when you discover that part that's when you're like this is

I remember going on like somebody that I thought was like an industry friend but I hadn't met her in real life. I'd go on her podcast and I walk in I go down the stairs and I'm actually excited because I've never seen her but I'm being filmed walking down the stairs and I'm like hey and then she's like

hey and then hugs me and she's like okay can you do that again and I was like the walking in part that I thought was just me walking in so when you find that out that even sometimes you're watching something like two people meet and it looks like it's for the first time it might not be. And, like, a lot of your, a lot of these, like, I'm not going to name names, but a lot of these, like, meme guys who came out, like, after me, like, big meme accounts who are like, people were like, they're funny. The minute you put them on camera, they're like, they're literally, like, basically live in their mom's basement. Right. And they're not funny and they're not turned up. And they're not anything. They're just like. But that's okay for memes. It's okay. Right. It depends if you want to be, like, front facing or not. I think sometimes, like, I don't know. I think people just thought a lot of these guys were funny. Oh, yeah, yeah. And then they were like, hi. And they were like, oh my gosh. And they were like, oh my gosh. And they were like, oh,

God, you run the, like, funny meme account? Like, I need to know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wait, you guys have to listen to this because Josh's emails, because when we're emailing about booking this, have the funniest signatures. And I have to tell everybody what they are because they cracked me up every time and made me less mad about all the changes he made to our. Okay, no, stop.

I did not full diva. I got COVID. I got late stage COVID, which is so pathetic. That is really pathetic. Like, don't even tell people. It's like starting a podcast. Like, don't get COVID in 24 and don't start a podcast. Like, how dare you?

It's not 2020. Wait, do you create the signature every time or is it automatic dumb shit? I take email super serious. I know a lot of people are like email and like whatever, but I think email is kind of fun. No, okay, you guys, these are a few. I put the time in. These are a few. One of the signatures was absolutely cannot stop thinking about this photo of Kelly Ben-Simon in 1999.

It has taken me to the very core movie. Have you, can you like show this photo? Is this a prince or something? I don't know. Who's this dude? No, I'm going to, I'll post it. Like, I don't understand. Like, she's with a puppy.

She's at a gala. I don't know. It's insane. Another, another email sign off is Chris Jenner with the deuses. At Tao, like. At Tao? That does that. Oh, you didn't notice the Tao?

Oh, yeah. Like a Tao, 2011. Oh, my God. Love Chris. Oh, my God. When people take pictures in front of, like, the Nobu sign in Malibu. Do you die? Definitely.

Die. I love doing that. So this is signed off Juzen Sarandon. And this one cracks me up. Yes. Well, people don't know. Because it's really a never forget thing. Okay, so this email sign off was,

please never ever forget that Nick Cage has an adult goth. Although I found out recently he's not that he's now, he just recently switched. He's not goth? No, he's a real estate broker. No. His name is Westin, but he was goth. He was in a big. You guys, what do you mean goth?

He was white face pain. Yes, no. like in a band called like Satan's Anus. Yeah. He was in like a band that was like and no one knew. Nick Cage has such a weird life. He's the best guy. Oh, he is? Have you ever read like the stuff

he's bought? Oh my God. You ever read that? No. It's like a list of things that he bought. Most of them I think he's had to sell now because he has like no money but he bought like. Oh, you think he has no money? That's why he makes like 18 movies a year like that or direct a DVD that you never heard of. Wait, that's still like a mill of pop. He bought like two islands like 17 dinosaur skulls. No, he bought a dinosaur skull that turned out from, like, some black market, like, Serbian, like, artifact dealers. Yeah. And it turned out to be stolen from, like, a museum in Eastern Europe, and they had to give it back.

And he didn't get the money back. He lost, like, two and a half million dollars. No. Plus, how much money did he spend on Coke? Like, he's just a, he's a weirdo. He's incredible. He's incredible. He's a weird.

He's just, like, he freaked me out, but he's great. He freaked you out. Yeah, he just was like, not a person. He's like a weirdo? He's like a weirdo. He's not a brother. Okay. And you said you had stories about Leo.

you did say he got fingered at a nightclub what that was one of your email about Leo DiCaprio I do but like I don't know I think I rethought it I think I reconsidered my position in what way I just like I don't know like well you became closer with Leo that's what happened I became closer with Leo like since that email you're so many six stories but then it's just like everything is like I know someone's going to hit me. Maybe when you're older, you're saying. Here's one thing I will, I will. Like, you'll do a tell-all at, like, 77. A lot of these guys, like, they're super boring, but, like, I think a lot of them think they can, like, really open up to me and or, like, do crazy shit

around me because I'm not going to judge. But also, I am. And also, I'm going to tell people like, for, like, a hundred percent for sure. Yeah. So, like, one thing. So if they see you at, like, the club. Yes. Right. And they'll, like, go, they'll, like, get turns. They'll be like, like, here's the thing I'm into. Yeah. Really. Yes, like remember I told you about unnamed celeb and one of my email about I DM'd you. And we were talking about it was an unnamed sub who has like a baby fetish. Do you remember? No, you didn't tell me that.

Yes, I did. Someone. Maybe Instagram blocked that. A big celeb who has like a baby fetish and wants to be in like a diaper and like get breastfed and like all this stuff. And they like told me back because they're like, this guy will get it. And like you don't get it. No, I'm going to talk about it on a podcast. Like I'm going like, I don't know what you're doing.

They're like, I can trust you right. I know you. And I'm like, first of all, no, you don't know me. Yeah. We've met three times. And second of all, do not trust me. Talk to anyone I know. Like, I'm not, I am absolutely not the guy.

But one thing that was happening recently was that with the whole cancellation of Diddy, you know, Diddy got canceled. Because of Cassie? She took it back, though. I know, but like it's unclear. So he, but this was something I've been talking about for years because it's like a now a documented thing that I saw him like at a party in Miami. I was at a party in Miami that should not have been at like some real black excellence shit that I was not deserving to be at. but I went with the DJ. Yeah.

And I took ecstasy and I ended up wandering around and it's a mansion on Star Island and I end up walking, I guess it was his mansion. And I end up, it's all like just hot, it's all hot black people. Yeah.

And then just like one moron with an afro and everyone's like how do, oh right when you had an afro. They're like, who's man is this? But I came in and I basically saw him, I walked in a room I shouldn't have walked into and I saw him like hooking up with a dude.

Basically like full spooning situation. This guy Felix, the house cat who's like a producer. Whatever. I then told the story on a podcast and then his people called me and were like, you need to say you were joking.

Like say you're a funny guy and like you made it up for the views. And I was like, no, but I did not. I saw it. And he saw me when I came in. Would you like a little scary? Yes. Because everyone in the room like stopped because I opened the door and was like, is this the bathroom? And everyone was like, no, this is a room where like celebrities like male celebrities hook up.

It's like some glitterati shit. And then he basically had people call me and like threaten me and like tell me if I didn't take it back and say I was joking. And you still didn't take it back. Confused. No. Why? And then I talked about it on a Hot 97. and they wouldn't air it,

Ebro who does the morning show on Harn 97. So Hine 87 always kept me on a pre-record because they were like, what are you going to say? They would never let me do a live interview. And I told the story. And then afterwards he was like, I'm not going to let you, I'm not going to run this interview because like, Dittie's insane.

And he'll, like he blew up Kid Cuddy's car and all the shit. And I was like. You did that on purpose. Like you're like, you wanted to see what he'd do to you. No, I wanted to get killed. I did it. But now, now everyone just found out that he like blows up people's, Kid Cuddy finally told the story.

Oh, he did. I've seen this for years. I've been like, Oh, Kid Cuddy is cute, right? Okay, yeah. Like,

fuckable? Yeah. No, like he seems like a good guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's like,

he's, you know, the original, like, sort of like, he kind of invented like anxiety, depressed rap.

Yeah, yeah. Because no one, like was doing that. And then he was like, I'm sad and like, on like medication. Right, right. And then like, and then like,

and then logic did it. A lot of people like started being like, I'm sad and like I like, but he was the first one to be like, I'm on well-viewed trim. Yeah. Okay. So a few quick opinions of yours I want.

Okay. Hot takes. Hot takes. What do you think of Taylor and Travis? I actually like love, I love Taylor Swift a lot. The word on the street with her, which I think is super impressive is that like when you're that,

like she's our only modern day celebrity who's this famous, right? Like she's old school famous. Yeah. Like people, like she's like Beatles, like people fall out and like start barfing. Like I can't believe she's here. And like 300 people.

show up outside of restaurant. Everything's so diluted now. Like, people don't get famous like that anymore. The word on the street from someone I'm very good friends with that is friends with her. It's like at her birthday dinner and shit is that she is like an actual person and a human being, which is really nuts. Because I don't know if you've ever met anyone who's been this famous. Yeah.

You are immediately insane. Yeah. Like your whole brain is lobotomized. Yeah, she does seem normal. She's like cool and not weird and like down to hang out and like has jokes and will like put your hand in water while you're sleeping and like make you be your pants like is cool at a sleepover yeah which is literally insane because if you're that famous you're immediately a cyborg from outer space yeah so if that is true we're giving more props then super super fun wow Travis Kelsey is he deserving

what's his dick game like what's his union is a big dick I don't know if he gives BD I feel like he's got a very normal dick like super like just like oh there's a white guy's dick yeah you know what I could see that she's like six yeah speaking of dick do you think that Timothy Shalamay has a big one, right? I'm not sure why you're giving it sort of a Ben-F, like Hispanic. That was not French. That's your French? You said, oh, oh, sorry, it's Timothy.

You said Simet-Shalame. No, it's actually, I saw this in a clip, yes. Timotie. Yeah, that's good. That was way better. It was weird. You don't do access. It seems like you don't do a ton of X.

He has a big one. Oh, he's got a hot. Yeah, for sure. That I know for a fact. Oh, stop. That I know for a fact. And him and Kylie. I know guys.

First of all, you know what's so funny about them is like it's like the old adage that like white dude who's been dating like white girls with no ass and gets an ass. One heinie and are,

it's the same thing with Bezos. Bezos sees one heinie and it's like, wow, wow, wow, and you like lose your whole mind. You fall into a butt and the Jebiz is like, take all my money.

You know what I'm saying? Like, because you've never seen a fat, you've never seen a dump truck. Like think about like Jeff Bezos's ex-wife's flat. Timothy Shamae was dating like models. Right, he was dating like Lily Rose Zep, no ass. Yeah.

No, and like Polish models who, like, have no Hainey game whatsoever. So he's in it. No, then he, like, experiences thickness and it's like, bwam, wom, mom, mom, mom, like, like, a wuga and, like, loses his whole lot. And you can see when these white guys are into it, because every pap pick will be, like, the hand on the butt. Like, they're never going to let go of that butt. So horned up. Like, no, because I think people thought he was, like, a little kind of like eight, like a little sort of, like fancy boy who, like, wasn't horny.

Yeah. No, he's horny. What? The horniest. He's the horniest. His mood is, like, jazzed up. Oh, my God. And now that he's experienced a tushy,

prosthetic or not, man is gone. He's falling into that tushy. We'll never see him now. G.G. and Bradley. They don't give sexual, right? Let me just say, that man is gay. I heard that, you guys.

I know. We don't out people, but I can't tell you. Let me tell you. If you didn't know that, that's like, that's. So what? We believe in this world where people do things for press? He needs to be gay. He'd be way better.

We're not outing him. Like, it's way worse than he's straight. He's so trash. Like, what? All right, I'll give you the final story here. Final story, guys. Which is, like, definitely, like, I promise that I wouldn't, like, go super deep on anyone. But this one's so wild.

Okay. So I knew an ex-girlfriend of his. And she basically was like, yeah, like got drunk post-breakup and was like, I can classic situation, like I was telling me. She was like, I can trust you. And I was like, no. And she's like, right. And I'm like, are you listening to me?

I'm saying no. She's like, but I'm saying. Like, we know each other. And I'm like, we really don't know each other that well, lady, no names. Okay. She's like, he will only butt fuck me. And I'm like, what do you mean? What do you mean only?

And she's like, we've been dating for a very long time. And like, we've had vaginal sex an unbelievably small amount of times. And I'm like. But is that a thing for gay guys who have sex with women? I don't know. I don't never heard of that. He's just butt fucking old. First of all.

First of all, no one likes butt fuck. I think gay guys do. No, I'm saying gay men do, but like women don't. We're right. No woman likes. No woman enjoys it. You have to be a man getting butt fuck so that you're like prostates getting and then your face goes numb.

It's nice. It's like supposedly really fun and nice. But for women, nobody likes that. No, right, because we don't have the thing. But like, she was like only for years. And I was like, what? That is so mental. Did that solidify it for you though?

Yes, because I heard it. And then I'm like, he's just keeping up appearances, but he just like wants to stuff. So why would Gigi do it? He wants the stuff, but I don't. know great question PR dating an A lister no idea I hung out with her she she directed the cake by the ocean video that I was in uh-huh and she was actually one who was like surprisingly pretty lit yeah she seems cool sometimes you just don't know like the most liddy ones are super snooze alert and then like the most boring ones you're like oh you're actually like super weird yeah

like into stuff yeah she was like into way more shit than I thought so that was cool but what is what are they doing I don't know yeah do not know but that man is gay like Hugh Jackman gay like the most gay like who is also he's not out you know I know and there was a rumor about him and Anthony on a final note it's just like all this man

America all this man wants to do is be in musical theater and dance and sing and be a gay man but we'd gladly we'd be down we put him in like a superhero prison and he can't get out of it no he's like he can't he's on some like I have to do the thing with the blade hand Wolverine again all this man wants

to do is just be like yeah and we just won't like he will it's we will free hugh jackman free hugh jackman let him openly fuck him in oh he supposedly he was fucking antony yeah okay you're that into that coupling not not into anthony you're not into anthony definitely not why not cool yeah not really cool he was the cook right and the show yeah i don't know yeah his food was super trash oh okay yeah yeah he i'm just like not no i'm just okay last one last one last one last one last one last one outside sorry Selena and Benny Blanco. Well, I've known Benny forever. I know Benny since he was like a child.

And the thing about Benny Blanco is, is that like, like, everyone's like, what's she doing? Like, I look at, like, I hate when people do that. I look at the comments. They're like, why don't she? I mean, most of them are like, from like Argentina. Right. They're obviously, like, stupid. And the thing you've to understand is that, like, she's a celab.

And like, most of the dude she's dated are probably actual fucking dickheads. Yeah. That dude is so nice. He's a for real. And he's super fun. Yeah. And, like, if you're her, and she's definitely, I think she's super hot. Now she's on medication.

Yeah. She's just, like, kind of, she got thick on the meds. Yeah. Yeah, she looks great, I think. And she's, like, kind of unhingish. Like, she's at that soccer game being like, anyone's single? And I was like, yes. Yeah.

But he's super nice to her. They like, he's like, he's like, microdosing mushrooms and being like, yo, does anyone want to, like, try this kish I made? Like, dude is a good time. He's cool. He's having a great fucking time. Yeah. He's not fuckable.

You know what I'm saying? like in the way that like she probably was doing before but dude is just like he's good for her he's an amazing hang yeah and so like she's on some like i'm having a great time yeah and he's super nice to me like get off my day i'm into it super into i'm into it super josh thank you for coming on i wish we had more time but you were 35 minutes late with a coffee there's so it was and you just start a podcast really late though wait like four more years no wait no wait more years just be like you guys a podcast and this is the last podcast that will ever come out yeah thank you guys so much for listening to this episode of

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