Not Skinny But Not Fat - Winter House’s Lindsay Hubbard on Austen & Carl

Episode Date: November 16, 2021

So much to talk to Summer & Winter House’s Lindsay Hubbard aka Hubbhouse aka Lins. We talk about the Austen situation on the show, and on WWHL, where they are today, if she’s currently dating anyone we might know (his name starts with the letter C), and so much more!    Produced by Dear MediaSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Lindsay motherfucking Hubbard is in the house, which I'm like kind of sad. Hubhouse is in the house. And I'm kind of sad because like we planned this. But then you did a lot of podcasts like two weeks ago and I got jealous. I know. Kate Casey got lucky because she just like it was right after watch what happens live that Austin was on. And I was like, how lucky are you, Kate? And she's like, I know.

And, okay, by the way, your apartment is so fucking cute. Look at that city view. Oh, thanks. That's amazing. Yeah, I love it. It's my little sanctuary. I've been here for almost, or yeah, just over a year. Oh, just over a year.

Okay, so is that the same apartment that you and Carl went to the rooftop or is it where you had like the keys in it? Oh, it's the same one. Oh, I've been in the building for almost five years, but I moved to this unit just over a year ago. Well, Lins, I feel like everyone's calling you Lins since Winterhouse. I feel like it's more of a Lins. Like maybe some people called you that before, but because there were so many lenses, like I feel like there could have been a drinking game that Austin said.

I feel like everyone when I'm getting like DMs about you, it's like Lins deserves it. And like Lins can get like, I feel like now you're Lins. I think because Carl was not on Winterhouse, Carl has always been the one who called me Hub House. And then, you know, because he's always Hub House, Hub House, everyone else is like hubs or hub or whatever. So he wasn't there. And Austin calls me Linz. So I think that's what happened. What do you like better? I like both. You know, when people say Lindsay, you know, fully, I get nervous. You're like, what did I do? Yeah, I'm like, yeah, what did I do now? Just lay it on me. Lindsay, did you have any apprehensions at all about doing Winter House? Like, because you're used to Summer House, you're used to the whole concept.

I know it changed a little bit because of COVID, but like you're used to it for so many years. Was there any hesitation about Winter House and this group of people or not at all? I mean, I, number one, I, you know, didn't have Carl and Danielle my two best friends. And although Kyle was there, you know, and Amanda and Luke, everyone was like, it's okay, it's okay. You're going to have Austin. Well, look how that turned out. But I was really, yeah, I was, I was like nervous because, you know, whenever there's any drama

or anything going on, you know, they're very much my support system in these types of environments. So I didn't have that. And also, I'm a summer baby. I grew up in Florida. I'm not. I didn't grow up, you know, going to the mountains and snowboarding and skiing and doing all of that stuff. So I automatically knew that I was just going to fall on my face and mountains are highly intimidating for me. So that was a little bit, you know, that contributed a little bit more to my being nervous. Also, I came in late. So when you come in late, there's a lot of pressure of playing catch up and trying to understand, you know, the drop.

or the hookups or whatever the case is. How many days late were you? I came in on the fourth day. I came, they got out there on Friday. I came in on Monday. And it was really like a work thing that you had? Yeah, I had this one last, last photo shoot for one of the venues that I was doing PR for and the photographer could only do it that weekend.

So. Oh, my God. Imagine like we don't, it's like revolving. doors. Like, we don't know what would have happened. Yeah. Had you not gotten there four days late. Yeah, but listen, I came in real hot. You did. Did you take fireball shots at the airport or in the car? Like, you came in ready to go. I, yeah. I mean, I, I, I probably had like a glass of champagne or, you know, Sansaire or something before arriving to the house. But, yeah, I came in and started drinking fireball for the rest of the day and night.

And holy smoke. I really still don't understand your relate. Like I remember when you were on my podcast for the first time, I was like, are you representing fireball? Like, are they a client? Because like I didn't get the obsession and the like, and all of you guys with the little, with the little fireballs. Yes, I can't.

Like, do you find it tasty or does it just give you like a good buzz? Fireball is one of the only shots I can really take. I kind of have a gag reflex with everything else, even chilled tequila. Still, it gives me that cringe afterwards. But I've always been a fireball fan. It was actually, it's awesome. I blame Watson for this one because he was like, it was like a few weeks before getting to Vermont.

He was like, I really want fireball. I like carrying the nips with me on the mountain, you know, and whenever I take a break, you know, it just sort of warms me up and gives me that energy. So I happen to have a friend who I went to college with who works at Sazirac and I, I hit her up and was like, hey, I need some fireball. And I mean, it works for them. That's like branding AF. That's like they're getting a lot of free publicity. Yeah. Well, and then it just so happened. They hired me for a campaign in October recently. And I was like, well, good timing for you guys. I mean, all we're doing at Winter House is drinking fireball all day and night.

Wow. So not only do you love it, you got everyone else in the house to love it also. Well, I think everyone's always loved it. I think I just have always loved it a little bit more, which is not necessarily a good thing either. I need to try it. I told you last time you were on the pod, like I've never tried it, which is like weird. Like, maybe not weird for the general population, but weird as opposed to winter house, summer house people.

Okay. So you come in, you're in a mood, which is like good for you because I feel like most people would come in kind of like, hey, what's going on? But you're like, here I am, ready to go. Austin picks you up and twirls you. It's like a really sweet moment. How soon after that do you find out that him and Sierra are hooking up? Probably within the first 10 minutes, I found out.

We, we basically, like, I put myself down and then we went outside and had that conversation. Oh, wow. I, I just wasn't necessarily surprised. I mean, that's what you do when you're single on vacation and a house filled with a majority of single people. Like, I would have, I would expect him to, you know, make out with one or more people before I got there. Oh, you did? Yeah. Did you go in, like in your head kind of seeds planted?

Who am I going to hook up with? maybe it'll be Austin kind of vibes? I mean, listen, I went in completely single. I had broken up with my ex-boyfriend last October and then this is March, right? So, and Austin and his girlfriend had broken up in a similar time frame. Paige and her boyfriend broke up in a similar time frame. So we all kind of, you know, that was, it's actually funny thinking about it that all three of us became single at the same time.

But when it came to. Austin, I was just really excited. I had not seen him in over a year because of the pandemic. And normally he comes every New Year's Eve for the fish concert at Madison Square Garden, but there was no fish concerts at Madison Square Garden last year. So I was just really excited to see him. And given the fact that we were both single at the same time, you just don't know what's going to happen. I didn't have any expectations, but I did expect there to be, you know, that flirtatious friendship and wherever that went, you know, who knows? Because they showed like throwbacks, which I feel like because maybe I wasn't watching

Southern Charm at the time. I wasn't really in tune with like Austin. Like they showed that you used to FaceTime him from the summer house house and that you guys do have history, which I feel like a lot of fans knew, but a lot of fans didn't like put one and one together. Like we're kind of like, wait, you guys have a history. And then you said, so was it the year that he didn't come for the fish concert that he told you via FaceTime, like, we're going to date this year? That's his resolution. Yeah. I mean, so to just comment on the first portion of that, Austin and I, you know, have had this friendship and it just grew stronger and stronger even after we hooked up years ago. I called him the day after. And I was like, hey, let's just forget.

that happened. Let's focus on our friendship. You know, in this industry that we live in, we kind of need each other as support for each other. And especially just understanding the lifestyle, being on different shows, it's somebody that you can confide in who's, you know, not too close to a situation on your own show. Right. So I sort of made that call and, you know, we really nurtured that friendship throughout the years. I've always been, you know, on on dating different guys. He was on and on on and off with his ex-girlfriend. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. So we really, like, nurtured that and protected that friendship until it was like solid enough to, you know, let, let the world in on the fact that we're best friends. So I wanted to just comment on

that for starters. And then what was your second question? If it was the New Year's that you didn't make it to the Fish concert that you were talking about him saying on FaceTime a gazillion times that you're going to date this year. Yeah. So, like, like last year was still pandemic during, during New Year's. So I was at Danielle's apartment. I had hosted Christmas at my apartment. So we went to Danielle's apartment for New Year's. She was like, I'll take New Year's. And I always talk to Austin on the holidays. Every single holiday, we're always on FaceTime, whether it's Thanksgiving, Christmas, or New Year's, Valentine's Day. I mean, whatever holiday. It's like a standing, you know, FaceTime.

date. So I was on FaceTime with him a bunch for whatever reason, you know, whether I was drunk or he was drunk. And he was just like, Lynn, I'm going to date you this year. And I was like, oh, my God. So the next day I called him and I was like, do you know what you said to me last night? And he was like, no, what I say. And I was like, you told me you were going to date me. And we just laughed it off. Right. So I mean, that's just we both, that's what I kept saying is like we both get drunk and like say wild things to each other that maybe we don't necessarily mean or have the intention of doing. But, you know, there is a closeness of our relationship that that's a little bit that's a little bit flirty. I mean, that's at the end of the day what it is.

It's like your friends, yes, but it wasn't like completely platonic because you did hook up. Also, did you? Because like when Craig said that he didn't know, did Craig really not know, like did really no one know? I know all of my best friends were aware. Aware. Like Carl knew, Danielle knew. And Kyle kind of knew something happened, but didn't really know the full details. I don't know. I mean, I wouldn't necessarily, I don't think Craig knew. Maybe he did. Maybe he didn't. I don't know. But, you know, Craig has always had a very strong opinion. When it comes to Austin's relationships, so, you know, it's very possible that Austin might not have told Craig because he probably didn't want his opinion on it. But it's also possible he could

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And so, like, I've always just sort of kind of kept her in the loop. Oh, that's nice. Since Austin's not here. And, like, I, you know. Oh, she is. She lives in the city. Yeah. She lives in the city.

Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. That's nice. And you brought Aunt Rhonda. Yeah. That's so cute. So, like, okay, I want to clear this up. Please do.

I just saw, I just saw an interview that Austin did with Bryce Sanders for ET Online. Like, the only reason I was at Watch What Happens Live is because a couple of weeks before Austin was going on, I was like, oh, by the way, Aunt Rhonda is going to be in town. She just booked her flights. She's going to be in New York. If it's okay with you, I'd love for her, you know, to experience Watch What Happens Live. Obviously, it would have been better if I was the guest, but the next best thing is your best friend is the guest, right? It's like family. And he was like, yeah, of course, no problem.

And I was like, I do not want to be in the audience. I will stay in the green room, put Aunt Rhonda in the audience with Katie and all good. So that was how the conversation went weeks before he was going on, watch Happens Live. And then I'm in the green room and I'm hyping Austin up and I'm just like, you look so good, you got this. Let me know if you want to like practice any questions before. going out there. And I just was, like, his biggest, like, fan and supporter, you know, making sure he felt really good. And Andy had asked me to be in the audience. And I told our publicist, I was like, no, this tonight's about Austin. I do not want to take it. It's not about me.

I'll be on in a couple of weeks. Like, I don't want to be in the audience. And our publicist was like, so you want me to go back and tell Andy you said no? I said, yeah, go back and tell Andy. I'm going to stay in the green room and I'll see him in a couple of weeks. Publicist comes back and she's like, Andy said he is insisting that you sit in the audience and to blame it on him. And I looked at Austin and I was like, I'm sorry. Like I told them no, you know, and he was like, it's all good.

It's all good. So now he's like out there trying to spend this story and. Oh, what did he say on Bryce Sanders? He just was like, oh, Lindsay made it all about her. And I'm like, no. Like, I can't help it that Andy wanted me in the audience and ask me questions. That's his job. And you didn't do, you didn't do anything.

I mean, if, if you weren't asked, it's not like you would have, like, heckled from the audience and been like, yeah, Austin. Like, you would have just, I, wow, I can explain, like, I'm being brought back there, like, physically right now to those moments where I can't imagine what you were going through during it and after. I saw your Instagram stories where you, when you were watching it. And you were like, I am so uncomfortable watching this. And I think that's how everyone felt. I was like, oh, my God, what is happening right now? And because it's just like a respect thing. Like, at the end of the day, it doesn't matter.

I mean, you took it so cool. Like, you came in. You thought there might be a hookup. He was like, love you like a sis, Lynn. Even though that pissed me off. I don't know if you saw that story of mine. I was like, do you fuck your sis? You know what I mean? It's like at the end of the day, he gave you that line, but it's like,

okay, that's, that's sweet now to say that, but that's not how it was. You know what I mean? So I don't know how you felt about that moment when he told you that he loves you like a sister. But at the end of the day, that's not exactly true because you hooked up. Yeah, I think male, female relationships in general have the ability to be a little bit more complicated in regards to friendship, you know, like I don't just have female best friends. I also have male best friends. And with the male best friends, they are very complex, especially if there was a romantic history in the past. So, so yeah, I mean, it's, it's definitely more of a complicated relationship given our history. I didn't take it offensively when he said,

I love you like a sister. You didn't. Yeah, you didn't. And you also like kept on. Like, I feel like from that moment on, you were cool. Like, with him, you were still friendly with him. You saw him and Sierra being all like cutie. You were still cool about that. Like, did it, did it not affect you, like, emotionally in any way? Like, were you like, okay, cool. Like, screen down.

Austin isn't an option because that's what it seemed like. As if you were, you were like, seemed like you were over it after you had that conversation. Yeah, totally. Because, you know, unfortunately, I was so. drunk that night that I didn't remember saying, I were in love with you. I mean, I also fell out of a chair. Yeah, you fell out of the chair. That's like a bachelor moment.

Like maybe you forgot what show you were on. Maybe you're like, wait, I'm on the bachelor and I'm supposed to tell the lead that I'm falling with them. Because like, you're like, and I mean, you looked, it didn't look, you know, super duper serious. Obviously, you were drunk. You fell out of the chair. Oh my God, Lindsay, you can be. I know. I know. What a hot mess express. I mean, yeah, is it embarrassing that I said that I'm like, that's, of course, embarrassing. Like, do I actually feel that way?

Yeah, I do actually, because that's a deep feeling. That's like a very. Probably not. Yeah. Because that's like, because maybe you felt like I really like him, but I also doubt that you were like in love. Right. Right. Exactly. I mean. And, and listen. Like when you are close with, in my situation, if I have a guy best friend, you know, wires tend to get crossed where you're just like, okay, do I just love you as a friend or do I love you as something more or like, you know, we've always had this, this flirtatious friendship and, you know, but now we're both single at the same time and like, what does this mean? But like, I'm also like questioning my love for like Carl or, and I apparently was also crying that I was in love with Kyle and Amanda. I, I, I And I was like, listen, guys, at least I'm not getting activated. At least I'm crying about being in love with everyone. Right. So just like take it as a compliment and let's move on. So you did move on and we'll get to Jason in a second. But okay, so back to watch what happens live for a second.

You're there. I was the only really triggering moment that was uncomfortable the game that Andy played, which was Lindsay or Sierra. Would you say that was the most uncomfortable? part? Oh, that was the most uncomfortable with that was not the only triggering moment. You know, it was like the whole thing started

you know, with Andy being like, what's the appeal to Austin? And I'm giving him all of these compliments and Austin's like doing this hand motion like keep going keep going. But then once I was answering a question, Austin started rolling his eyes at me

like nonstop and just like I'm like what? Like why? And then I also was just like in my mind, like I had just watched that night's episode where he's like telling me I'm a crazy person for drunkenly saying I'm in love with you. And I just feel like that's not what you should do. Like you shouldn't try to gaslight me. I, I like, you told me you were going to date me on New Year's Eve.

We laughed it off the next day. You sat at the bar and said, why don't we just say, fuck. and just date each other, which then led to me going into a tailspin that I'm in love with him. But that's okay that you can do that because all we do is laugh it off the next day. So the second I say something to you, you're calling me a crazy person? Like, take, you know, it should be flattering. Can we just say that it's misogynistic? I'm not going to, you know, put labels on things. You know, all I can do is talk about my feel. because I'm certainly, certainly, Amanda, not trying to propel this insane, stupid media war.

Is it, is it, does it feel like a media war right now? Yes. And it's so silly. I mean, we're definitely going to have to handle this in private, like to figure it out. Did it ruin your friendship? Like, is the friendship? No, so, okay. So back to the question was, I just watched the episode and I'm just like, what the hell?

Like, why? Why am I a crazy person when you? you do the exact same thing to me, and I'm expected to laugh it off. Right. And, you know, I just, that compounded with, like, the eye rolls and just his snarky behavior. And then, like, the last straw was just not having the decency of me as a friend. Like, there hasn't been any, like, romantic feelings that I've had for him in a long time. So this is a journey of a friendship and, you know, I put myself in that situation. And if it was opposite, I probably would have like, you know, maybe explained a little bit more like, oh, you know, I am going to go with Sierra because I don't really cuddle with Lindsay or whatever the case is, you know, just something that had a little bit more.

You would have 100% respected. And I feel like Andy, Andy, doesn't fucking hold a gun to your head if you're like sob like you know i don't want to answer that like they're both great you know he he would be like okay okay like he would take it he would take it there was no there was no reason i'm heated about it now there was no reason to be like sierra's a better kids or sierra's a better color sierra's the better this series the better that like uh you know craig would have liked sierra more it's like at the end of day you're a human being with feelings and i'm putting aside the fact that you're good friends even like be a little bit sensitive

to another person's feelings like I don't know we don't know as an audience what's happening right now with Sierra and Austin right are they dating IRL? I don't know if they are and he wanted to like

you know suck her dick because she's his girlfriend there was still a way to do that without hurting another person and I can't even imagine the fact that you were in the green room 10 minutes before or whatever pumping him up

and five minutes before telling Andy all the reasons why he's a catch because nobody's getting it. Right. I even called him. I was like, is Pete David?

I was like, is Austin Krulled the Pete Davidson of Bravo? Because it's like, you know, that vibe where people are like, how? Wait, how?

Not that he's not good looking, but for some reason, a lot of people are shocked that there's so much interest. You know what I mean? Yeah. Well, I mean,

listen, I appreciate it. But it was like all of those factors that led ultimately, I was like, okay, clearly we have different ideas about how to respect a friendship. And now I have to like reflect on that.

And in the process of doing that, like I wound up blocking him because I just don't think while I'm reassessing this and trying to figure out how to navigate like where to where to go with this friendship, then I don't want you to have access to my life. I live my, my life, you know, just like you on Instagram. So, and I'm, and I'm very open and I share it with everyone. So I just, that was ultimately why I blocked him. I was like, let me just take a step back. But what happens right after taping?

Like, do you come up to him? Do you go home? Like, I, I ran. I ran out of there. I was like, yeah, make me out of here now. Oh, my God. Yeah, I left. What did you feel?

A lot of people didn't know how to take. the fact that, because you held on to his sister's hand and she kind of, it looked like she was pulling away, but I have to imagine that it wasn't an obituary way. Yeah, I think that was at the end. She, I was squeezing her hand so hard because I was just like, what is happening right now. And Katie's so, so sweet. I mean, I, you know, for as many years as I've known her and, you know, have a, you know, close friendship with her, um, you know, she's, you know, that's her brothers. So, like, I think it's like she was kind of put in this uncomfortable position of like, you know, what's happening. Like, none of us knew what was going on. And so, I mean,

and most importantly, Aunt Rhonda, how was she? Did she enjoy, did she manage to enjoy that, you know, New York City, watch what happens live experience? Or was she, like, bamboozled? No, she, she enjoyed it. I mean, I think that it's like a fun process, you know, especially especially me being so close with Aunt Rhonda. And, you know, she's like a mother figure to me. So I, I really, you know, was excited to share that with her. Was it super awkward and uncomfortable? Yeah. But you can't control that sometimes. Yeah. Wow. Well, I hope you guys figure it out and talk, you know, between yourselves and. Yeah. No, me too. And like, and I think we both feel that way. Like, you know, Austin did text me that Friday after.

And he was like, our friendship means a great deal to me. Just note that this has been weighing on me. So I think he can understand. And now it's kind of getting swept away and like a way that I don't necessarily like once. What if he would have apologized the next day called you and been like, I'm so sorry. I was caught off guard. Like, I didn't mean to hurt your feelings. Like, would you have forgiven him right away?

Probably. I mean. So why hasn't that happened, do you think? We're all not perfect, you know? And especially, like, in that chair on live TV, like, those are like rapid fire questions. You don't know what games or quizzes they're going to ask you. And, you know, it's, we don't always say the perfect things or act the, you know, the best way. But I just, yeah, like if he apologized, I'd be like, okay, let's just make sure not to do that again. Like, we've, like, we have. had talks in our friendship before. I mean, it's a typical friendship, you know, like, yeah. It's just, it's unfortunate that ours plays out in a very public way. But that hasn't happened yet, Lindsay, right? Just to clarify, like, the, the, you two have talked about it and have made up. No, not yet. Not yet. I am so excited to tell you guys about athletic greens because I've actually been using athletic greens even before they became a sponsor. So that's always really fun. And what an amazing way to get your grains. What an amazing freaking way, you guys. I love it. Athletic greens is a powder. You added to 12 ounces of water. And it comes with all the category

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Okay, luckily there's another hot guy in the house. His name is Jason, which like that seemed like all of a sudden you guys are like, because at first I was like, wait, they haven't kissed yet. You were kind of like not humping, but it was like hugging and like, Jumping around.

Yeah. But I think at the end of the last episode, there was, there was a kiss. Yeah. It was, I was watching that last night. And I feel like he was trying to make the move at different points throughout the night. He was like, we're in this room. Just me and you. And you were like, woo-hoo.

Bye. Yeah. I was just like not picking up on what was happening, I guess. Jason is, he's obviously so good looking. And he's just like beyond that. He's so, so, so sweet. He's just like one of the nicest guys. I think he'll go down in history as like one of the nicest guys I've ever dated.

Stop. Go down in history is a good little tidbit, Lindsay, because that means he's history. I mean, yeah, but let's consider the source over here. I don't exactly have the best picker in, you know, my relationships. I was just thinking, like, how wild to you and, like, how do you feel about it that, like, we've seen you for how many years now, like, date? Like, we've watched your dating show, basically, almost, a little bit.

Like, we've seen your, all your dudes, like, basically on TV or a lot of them and have seen you go through relationships. And to me, it feels like people are very much on your team. You know what I mean? It is like very, very flattering, you know, people are very invested in my dating life. And I think they just want the best for me. And that's just like, that's so nice to feel because you guys have just seen so many relationships of mine just like completely fail right in front of your eyes. And, you know, not necessarily anyone's fault, their fault, my fault. you know, I had a lot of growing up to do myself in order to be a better, you know, relationship

partner. But, you know, timing. I mean, there's so many factors. But I do appreciate just the love and, and the support from all the fans and viewers. They just, like, want to see me find love. They want your timeline. They want to start, like, ticking off the timeline, like, checks. now I'm remembering that the last time you were on my podcast was after the season of Summerhouse where you and Carl tried to date. And I was like, damn what I fucking ship you guys so much. I, like, loved it. I was like if any, this was before Carl 2.0, by the way.

And I was like, if anyone can bring Carl around, it's you. And like if anyone can calm you down a little bit, it's probably Carl. And I just felt like it worked so much. And I don't know if you're going to tell us, but it looks like there is a Lindsay and Carl 2.0. happening right now. Is that what it looks like? It looks like it. And I ship. I fucking ship. I'd be so happy. You guys dress up. I mean, you did post that you dress up together as Johnny and Baby from Dirty Dancing for Halloween. Yeah. Well, we went to this, this daytime Halloween gathering at our friend's house and they have young children and they invited a bunch of their other friends who have young

children who we know. So it was like a lot of kids. So we wanted to like do something a little bit more, you know, PC as far as our costumes. You know, it's not like I'm going to like a Brooklyn warehouse dressed, you know, in nothing. So, so yeah. So we, we knew we were going to go to that that Halloween party together. And we were like, okay, what should we do? What should we be? And we somehow landed on dirty dancing. Dirty dancing is one of my all-time favorite movies. I know. Same. I think it's our decade, our millennial-nessness, you know? Yeah. Such a good movie. Yeah. These Gen Zers don't know what they're missing out on. Yeah. I know. I feel like we watched it too young, too. I was like trying to do the, like, just looking

for a man to like put my hand behind and go over his rock hard nipples. And I was like 10. Like, you know, like maybe it wasn't the time to be watching that. that movie. But you guys look great. And, and, and, and you guys, I mean, I am crossing my fingers that, what would be your couple name? Carlins. Carlins. Cubhouse. Cubs. Cubs. Oh, you're giving him one letter. Okay, we're giving him. Okay, wait. Carlins. You don't like it. Carlin's. Carlin's. Carlin's is cute. Ooh. Okay, Lindsay, I have to ask you one question, though, like logistical, and this is for my knowledge. Are the themed parties planned in advance? Because how do you guys have, like, costumes for all the, like, parties that you throw? Like, how did Julia have a cheerleading costume? So, we didn't know any of the themes until, like, literally, like, two, three days beforehand and we would all just be on like Amazon, just shipping things like

to Vermont. Mm-hmm. Oh, right. I forget it's like real life and you could order shit on Amazon. Yeah, but so many packages went missing when we were in Vermont. It was wild. It was like maybe it's like a slippery fucking slope to get to that house. It looked like that is wild.

That is wild. How would you compare winter house to summer house? Like, did you, are you still like I'm a summer baby? That's more of my vibe or did it grow on you? I mean, we had so much fun at Winter House. There's obviously going to be that drama that, you know, propels our seasons. But we had so much fun. I think it's a beautiful backdrop.

You know, you guys are used to seeing us by the pool or at the beach. So, you know, having a different element, I think is really fun to watch and experience. And of course, like, you know, we still have to throw epic theme parties. You guys have yet to see our most epic themed event from Winter House. I don't know what episode it'll be in. We only have a couple more episodes to go. Oh, my God. Only a couple more?

Yeah. Yeah, last night was episode four, I think. Yeah. And we have two more weeks. Oh, wow. I know. I know. People are loving Winter House.

It's so fun to see. And we're also like the different, even though we're pretty drunk at Summerhouse, there's like more of a balance, like work life. Right. Here was like, yeah. This was like straight vacation mode where we just were like, you know, running nonstop. Do you guys not get hangovers? Like I must know.

We drink through our hangovers. I think that's probably what it is. I'm just picturing myself with like a headache and like me and drink a lot of water. But no, you guys get up and you're ready to do it all the fuck. over again. I mean, I think I said in a couple of episodes ago, I was like, how do I get rid of the bags under my eyes? It's just like, I'm like, there's not enough makeup in the world. You did say that. That can get rid of this. Yeah, we were pretty tired. When we got home, I was just like, I need a nap. I need a nap and I need to not talk to anyone for like a day. And like to detox,

probably. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. You're like, no, you're like, no, I went out that night when I at home. I mean, well, I didn't go out, but I, you know, immediately saw Carl and Danielle and yeah. Oh, that was a question I wanted to ask you. So, okay, let's say you're in a relationship, but let's say it's with Carl. Let's say it's with whoever. Would you film in a relationship with your significant other or would you be a little bit scared? Ooh, I think I've made this mistake in the past if I am you know just hypothetically if I'm dating somebody I think I'm I would wait maybe to a announce it to the public um and B I think I would wait probably a year before bringing them on I don't know because if if I'm dating somebody and

Like this is a reality show, which means you need to see my real life. And if I'm dating somebody, then they're going to want to see that person, right? Yeah. But for me, it's like a catch 22 because I haven't figured that person out yet enough to know if they're in it for the wrong reasons, if they're using me for status or fame or, you know, if it's going to scare them away because it is. Right. But if it's Carl, hypothetically, then he's not using you for all those things.

Yeah, I mean, if it's somebody on TV who understands a lifestyle, you know, then that's, that's more of an equal relationship that I don't have to necessarily worry about. But I'll just say it again, would ship, can't wait to hear what's going on in your personal life and find out more, but can't wait to, you know, see who's sleeping in your bed. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah, I know. It's tough, right? because I do know, I do know people are so, you know, it's hard because I, I want to be able to talk to everybody about, like, you know, my dating life and, like, share it with everyone because everyone's rooting for me so much, which is so flattering and exciting. But at the same

time, I'm not filming. Cameras are not rolling, whether it's summer house or winter house. So it's like, I kind of am just like enjoying it. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. Enjoy it. privacy while I can enjoy my privacy. 100%. 100%. You're right. Yeah. You're right. Thank you so much for coming on.

I love to have you. Love to see you. You're glowing. You look really happy. And, oh, thanks, Amanda. I always love talking to you. And I'll just continue DMing you and laughing at all of your commentary.

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