NPR Music - Alt.Latino: The Mars Volta, Argentine Beatles covers, and more
Episode Date: May 7, 2025The music this week comes from a variety of countries and genres, some of it sounds like music you've heard ... while others sound like nothing you've heard before.Featured artists and songs:• Natal...ia Bernal, "Más Allá"• Jaze, "mil procedimientos"• Jaze & Susana Baca, "jomalón"• Jaze, "boomeran'"• The Mars Volta, "Fin" • The Mars Volta, "Enlazan las tinieblas"• The Mars Volta, "Alba del orate"• The Mars Volta, "Lucro sucio"• Diego Mema, "la forma de quererte"• Diego Mema, "till there was you" (Beatles cover)• The Rumba Madre, "Abuela"• Junior Zamora, "Salsa y Clase"Audio for this episode of Alt.Latino was edited and mixed by Simon Rentner. Our project manager is Grace Chung. NPR Music's executive producer is Suraya Mohamed. Our VP of Music and Visuals is Keith Jenkins.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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It's new music time, Felix.
We've got a lot of great music lined up.
From NPR music, this is Latino.
I'm Anna Maria Sayer.
And I'm Felix Contreras.
Let the Chiseme begin.
Ooh, I get to say.
How does it feel powerful?
Oh, my God.
I'm empowered, yes.
I'm going to play a record by a Chilean vocalist.
Her name is Natalia Bernal.
She has an album coming out in May.
She's got a couple singles out from the album.
It's very, very good.
She's one of these South American vocalists
who has studied jazz
and is incorporating where she comes from
into her jazz sensibilities.
This new single is called Masaya.
Her name is Natalia Bernal.
Check it out.
Okay, Anna, you know how much
I'm from South America and from the Caribbean
and from Spain and playing and singing jazz.
But I just want to point out real quickly
and I'm not sure if I've done this before
and stop me if I have.
But this is not something new.
And very quickly, I want to go back
to the Argentine saxophone player Gato Babieri.
He came from Argentina, fully developed.
came to the United States playing jazz, avant-garde jazz,
and then settled into something different.
That was in the 1960s.
There was an alto saxophonist from Colombia.
His name was Husto Almario.
He came from Colombia, came here in the United States.
He started playing with Mungo Santo Maria,
and then went on to the jazz realm.
I think Gartou Barvieri, he studied straight-ahead jazz,
and there were no schools back then, you've got to understand, right?
He was part of a jazz scene in Argentina,
this early to mid-1960s.
So they were musicians who were taking, they were learning from records,
trying to play jazz in the way that they heard it from the United States.
In his case, he was really into avant-garde.
He was listening to John Coltrane.
He was listening to all these other people.
That's where his head was.
He was one of the first musicians to incorporate all these really interesting
folk rhythms from Latin America in his own music once he got here to the United States.
So then what's the connection between an Argentine sax player from the 60s
and a Chilean jazz arts?
who studied her vocals at Berkeley in Boston
in the United States today?
Good question. Wow.
I think that she's drawing inspiration from people
like Gato Bavieri and Husto Almario and these musicians
who followed their own path and then decided to incorporate
some of their own things.
Most specifically, Gato Bavieri,
he was a really big influence
on bringing in South American rhythms
and musical styles into jazz.
And I think that the connection there is he laid the path
And over the decades, other people have followed some more successfully than others.
But the fact that it's there, that that path is there, that's the connection.
That's what his contribution was.
And that's, I think, what I have never spoken to any of these musicians, but I'm sure
whether or not they are, would directly cite him as an influence.
But they're certainly, from my perspective, listening to all this music, they're certainly
following a path that he's set up.
And in this case, she's from the.
northern part of Chile. And it's a small fishing town near the Atacama Desert. And with
interesting, her interesting music background, I found an interview with her. Her family was
in the hotel business. So she lived in hotels growing up. And this was the time of elevator music.
She grew up with this elevator music carrying pop hits from the United States, pop hits from Mexico,
from Latin America. That's a fascinating story to me.
Natalia Bernal is her name.
The album is called Endiablada.
It's coming out in May.
The single is called Masayar.
Your turn.
My turn?
Okay.
So what I have for you today, Felix, drum roll.
Is Peruvian artist Juan Carlos Iwasaki Buen.
otherwise known as Jays.
He released his third album called Kisa No Is Parat Tanto.
This is the first song I want to play for you called Mil Procedingios.
Yeah.
I know when I'll get up
I'm still
I'm scared
I'm
with the
middle in the
tach
guillating
of my
presentimient
divagando in
the compass
creating a
door
fugues
when I've
another
think I
have done
a few
proceedings
I think
that only
can't
like an
attempt
I'm
I'm sorry
but
can't
avoid
the movement
I
know
so there's
solution
there
I'm
to
keep
the
I'm
what I
do
what I'm
I'm
I'm
Okay, so I wanted to play you a little bit of that first, Felix,
because I think it's kind of like a nice representation of what to me is just like this really kind of nice, fun,
a little bit jazzy, a little electronic, very driven by live instrumentation album that Jays has released.
It's almost easy listening in a way, but it's such a departure from his last record.
Because he started, get this Felix in freestyle competitions, is where he got his beginnings.
and his last record was so grounded electronic sounds
with a lot of trap to it.
It's like almost unrecognizable the difference
and I wanted to play you this track from his last record.
It's called Homalone
and it features Susana Baca on the vocals.
Oh my God, the iconic Afro-Provian vocalist.
Wow, okay.
Imagination
Wow,
It's a little
A lot of
A caimony
Wow,
there's a
question
Wow, there's a lot
there's a lot going on there, man.
Yeah, right?
When I heard that, I was like,
whoa, this is not at all.
what I was expecting.
You hear moments of live instrumentation
and this new record.
It's kind of like he fully has leaned
into that expression.
I mean, check out this song.
It's called Boomeran.
And it's him going back to his rap roots
but in kind of a very different style.
It's kind of like he's ditched a little bit more
the electronic rhythms.
Yo, yo.
Hey,
I'm going to disappear in the sombrus.
I'm sorry,
I'm sorry,
don't you scones.
It's a night of sparrama on the alfomber
Bion, I'm looking for the ventana 3 in the
morning, I know I think
that's for the next round
but I'm not I'm
I think I'm gonna do a while
but I'm sorry,
I'm no I'm never
I'm here, but no it's perjero
but bro.
Joy.
It's a really interesting moment
I think globally for like hip-hop
R&B rap generally
where like live instrumentation is such a big
driver in a lot of these spaces
no matter where you are, it's seeping in across Latin America.
And I think one thing we talk about a lot, obviously,
is what happens with these artists when they come to Tiny Desk
in the way that they kind of explore these never before heard,
never before seen live instrumentation moments.
And we're just seeing that more up front on records now.
Like that is something that, you know,
a really good bass line with some good drums.
Like that's something that's kind of carrying a lot of these sounds today.
Once again, we are of like minds without even trying.
Okay.
As for always.
I got something from the band called the Mars Volta.
And the Mars Volta is basically a duo with a bunch of other musicians depending on the project.
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez is a guitar player.
and Cedric Bixler, Savala, is a vocalist.
He plays keyboards, plays a bunch of stuff.
I don't even know where to begin to try to describe this band.
It's like a cult favorite.
Omar Rodriguez-Lopez is a prolific musician.
He's put out a bunch of stuff.
And they pop up in the mainstream every now and then.
They had a record produced in 2003 by the mega-producer Rick Rubin.
But what I like about them is that they have this ever-expanding sonic palette.
but sometimes creatively breathtaking.
I'm going to play four songs.
The first song we're going to hear
is the first track of the album
and it's curiously called
Thin, or the end.
Okay, now a conga timbal mashup
that of course caught my attention.
This is called Enlason Las Tineblas.
Now check out what they do with that.
Okay, now a down-tempo vocal
featuring Cedric Bixler Savala.
This is called Alma De Boracha.
And finally, the title
track, Lucro Succio, another
down-tempo sonic exploration.
The prick of my blade
To the choke in your throat
Unless you expect it the further I'll get
To a hole in your heart
Where God's never stepped in.
The percussion alone is just like
Absolutely next level
Like the way they thread things
But in a really unique in each expression of it
feels distinct, but there's something there that's always threading commonly across all the
tracks. It's really interesting. Oh, and there are 18 tracks on this album. They're so sonically
different, but the same. I couldn't even write any notes up for it to talk about this band,
because always have a hard time trying to describe the band and what they do. I usually just tell
people find them, and then dip your toe into it, because no matter where you find them,
it's going to sound different the next time you hear them. That's the goal.
glory of this band. You never know what to expect, but it's always, like I said, it's so
creatively challenging, adventurous, all that stuff. I'm just such a big fan. The album's called
Lucro Sucio Los Ojos Del Vacio. Okay, so what I have next, Felix, it's a little bit of a part
two from what I just brought. So after I got into this whole Jay's rabbit hole, I started looking at
his collaborators, and he has this guy, his name is Diego Memme, who wrote and produced on all of
the songs on his last album. I want to play you one of the songs that feels really distinctly Diego,
now that I've also been on a Diego rabbit hole, uh, from Jay's album first and then I'll get into
what Diego has. So this song, which is also off of Jay's record, is called El Secreto Escondido
of Toulouse.
form of
to
very nice.
And no
nice.
So, okay, after that,
I spent some time
with Diego's music
and he released his first ever album.
It's called La Montaña
and it's mostly all instrumental,
just like these beautiful,
kind of like sweet guitar tracks.
And for Connie,
context, he's collabed with a bunch of these Argentine singer-songwriters like Zoe Gotuso, the kind of like
indie scene down there, but he's also worked with Julietta Vanegas, David Byrne, people like that.
Anyways, his album La Montaña was just released and this is a song off of it called La Forma de
Kiererte.
I'm
I'm
I'm not
too
I hear the
day
you're
right
you can
it's
to show
it's
to show
to
be that
not
not
there
I hear the
thread going
through that
right
you can hear
it with
it's very
distinctly
his style
I think
across the
record but
especially with
that last
track
okay there's one more
I want you to listen
to till there was you.
So it's an instrumental?
Mm-hmm.
Just instrumental.
I just loved it.
It brought me so much peace today.
I love it.
He's simple.
He's sweet.
He has some pretty piano arrangements throughout on top of the guitar.
But really, it's just like a nice, it's La Montagna.
It's very, it feels very from the Southern Cone, from the nature out there really to me.
I just, it's really, really sweet.
You know, that's a Beatles song, right?
Of course.
Okay.
You're like, just check.
Valid to check, but yes.
But I mean, and it kind of goes back to what we were talking about earlier,
about how the influence from other countries,
and specifically England and the British invasion,
how it just, the Beatles were everywhere, man.
It felt so random to me when I heard it,
and then I was like, this is really fitting on this record.
Like, it very much caught me by surprise.
I was like, oh, kind of grabbed my heart a little bit.
Like, oh, my God, till there was you.
It is kind of mind-blowing.
Like, someone from your generation is latching on to the beauty
of that composition.
Good call.
I'm a fan now.
Okay, you got me.
Those were two songs
from the album Montagna by Diego Mema.
Okay, break time, Felix.
Yes, yeah, we've got to take a break.
All right.
We're going to come back with more music
right after this.
Okay, we're back.
And, you know, Anna, I want to just,
just while I'm thinking about it,
the fact that you played that song,
that's a song we used to play in our Beatles band,
and we got some gigs coming up,
and we have to do some acoustic stuff.
That's perfect.
We're going to have to dig that one up.
Thank you for.
Tell Diego that you're going to steal his arrangement.
Watch out, Diego. Get your lawyers ready.
I have a record, you know, I don't know how these emails or texts or whatever, they come to me.
And this is one of those emails that just sort of popped up out of nowhere.
The band is called the Rumba Madre.
And it's a trio from Nashville.
And the trio is a guy from the Basque Country of Spain, a guy from Colombia, and a guy who grew up in Puerto Rico and in New York.
They defy specific description.
And the only musical acknowledgement is the rumba and the name references flamenco rumba, not Afro-Cuban bumba.
They have a new song out, it's called Abuela, and it tells a story of the journey of a woman who had to flee Franco's Spain in 1930s to settle in Mexico.
And it's just one story among 500,000 people who fled Spain, who left to escape the fascism of Spain in 1930s.
Again, the band is called the Rumba Madre.
This is called Abuela.
And hold on, because it's going to startle you right at the beginning.
Hold on.
It's a nice beginning.
The abuela nacio in middle of a war when the fascism almost conquista Europe.
Spain and era preza of Frankism.
And in Portugal, reigns al-Alazada.
Check that's
Very in the style of the basqueur was
Unica salida
Check that out, man
Incredible
Very in the style
of the Basque region, in my opinion, too
What blew me away about this
Just listening sonically
It reminds me of the early 90s bands
That were part of the rock
And Spanish movement bands
Like Mano Negra from Spain
And their featured lead singer Manu Chau
Plus from some bands from Mexico
like Maldita Ventindidad.
They combined all of these different influences.
They're singing in Spanish.
They're singing in French.
You hear ska.
You hear Afro-Caribbean.
You hear Mexican folk.
In this case, their whole trumpet, you know, the bullfighting trumpet thing at the beginning.
All of this stuff is like it's a really heady mix.
But what may surprise some folks, these guys are from Nashville.
Of course.
Our favorite town of burgeoning Latino sounds.
There's a large and creative Spanish-speaking community there from all over.
Again, the band is the Rumba
The Rumba'amada, the track is called
The Rumba Madre, the track is called Abuela.
Amazing pick, Felix.
I love it.
I like these guys, man.
Okay, I'm going to close us out with some rap, Felix.
Okay.
You know, originally I had to.
like three rap picks for the show and I was like maybe I need to calm down for Felix's ears.
But this guy I'm really excited about his name is Junior Samora and this song is called salsa
and class.
To make the barry,
you're a little
class,
and a fat-as-same
a sauce,
and a lot of sasone,
the only,
the street,
the sun,
battery and reggetton,
nio,
this has a trickito,
this not's a
this no,
I get,
that's the
that's the
man,
I'm gonna,
I'm gonna
see,
with the scarer
siles,
night,
night's in
night,
the studio,
the studio,
the stry,
this a gt,
this is for
mona,
that's not,
so some,
so sauce,
Contrary to what you may think
Okay
You're not bringing in a lot of rap
I really like this
There's so much going on
There is so much going on with the music
I mean it's always more dynamic than just rap right
Yeah absolutely
I mean so he's from Cali Colombia
Which I mean you know at this point
A lot of people associate Colombia with regaton
and then more recently with Afro beats,
but there still is a really vibrant rap trap scene
in its own right in Colombia, especially in Cali.
And to me, what Junior does is really just like keeping alive that essence
of like what is a very healthy, wonderful trap rap scene in Latin America,
in places like Colombia specifically.
I think it's important, right?
Like we talk about this really, this marriage between American hip hop
and especially in Puerto Rico, there's like a really tight close.
I talked about Alade Ocarion recently.
But this, it's distinctly Latin American hip hop for me.
I told you, I just saw Anita Tijuana,
Anna Tishu, perform last night.
And there's something really important
to keeping that essence
of a South American rap alive.
I want you to listen to one more track
because he does a song
with our incredible J. Noah
from the Dominican Republic.
This one's called Tiling Chilin.
Pursiguing the booting,
Doolin, this is chillin, chilin, so
They say they're saying that no,
but I know that's not
that I can't in the life,
soo-
Pursiguing the booting,
Dullet,
this is chillin,
so they're just,
three batts with the same prannas
changing of the piso
si-o-o-o-o-ch-be
Pache-te-pac-cac-triced
to-cant-a-cant-the-missue
to the same ya,
and say,
that no-want,
that the verses
Got to get into content, I love Janoa man.
Right, right?
Like she just sets every track on fire.
Like literally just her presence when her bars come in, it's like, okay, everyone take a step back.
Exactly.
And I love his style.
love a funky bass like that. It's awesome. It just carries so, so nicely. Add something really
rich to the sound. That was two tracks from Juno Semora off of his second album, Jujas del Barrio.
Nice mix. I can dig it. A lot of stuff. We like it? Yeah, a lot of stuff covered today. A lot of stuff.
Absolutely. You have been listening to Alt Latino from NPR Music. The woman who keeps us on track is
Grace Chung. Soraya Mohammed is executive producer of NPR Music.
And the VP of Music and Visuals is Keith Jenkins.
I'm Felix Contreras.
And I'm Ana Maria Sayer.
Thanks for listening.
