NPR Music - Songs for any road trip
Episode Date: June 16, 2026It’s the season of road trips — and nothing goes better with those long and winding roads than music. This week we share our picks for the perfect playlist, breakdown what works best when, and co...nsider some ground rules — does the driver always have the final say?Reviews help! Leave us one on Apple or Spotify wherever you listen to podcasts. Questions, comments, suggestions or feedback of any kind always welcome: allsongs@npr.orgFeatured artists and songs:(00:00) Eric Burdon and War: “Spill the Wine”(03:09) Stromae: “Santé”(04:57) Broadway Cast: “Alexander Hamilton”(07:53) Joe Iconis / Broadway Cast: “Michael in the Bathroom”(10:14) Abiotic: “Vermosapien”(12:02) Wipers: “Mystery”(13:36) Steely Dan: “My Old School”(17:28) Tunde Olaniran: “Namesake”(19:54) Shania Twain: “Man, I Feel Like a Woman!”(22:37) Pat Travers: “Amgwanna Kick Booty”(26:27) Anthrax & Public Enemy: “Bring The Noise”(27:49) Unwed Sailor: “Monster Collecting”(29:46) The Allman Brothers Band: “Midnight Rider” and “Southbound”(33:12) Lake Street Dive: “You Go Down Smooth”(35:41) Black Sabbath: “Turn Up The Night”(37:19) Simple Minds: “Don’t You (Forget About Me)”Note: A version of this episode originally posted in August 2025.See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for sponsorship and to manage your podcast sponsorship preferences.NPR Privacy Policy
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Discussion (0)
Uh, mics are on.
How are we doing this here?
Well, it's road trip season.
And nothing goes better with road trips and listening to music.
I'm Robin Hilton. All songs are considered.
Stephen Thompson is here.
Stephen, I know you're a road trip warrior.
You know, I have been.
Oh, come on. Your trips to Wisconsin are legendary.
This is true.
Yeah.
They're the stuff of a younger, more foolish.
And Lars Gotrich, you're here as well.
Have you been known to get behind the wheel?
I like to get behind the wheel.
We do a lot of road trips down to Asheville, North Carolina.
That's where my folks live.
But don't you, Stephen, don't you, like, get in the car at night, like, in the evening or something and just drive all night?
Or, like, you do it in one shot or something.
You know, I did that for a really long time.
You know, I would go back.
And I still, you know, to this day, have some of the most dearly loved people in my life live in Wisconsin.
I love to go back.
Driving for 14 to 18 hours.
Okay.
Does not do for my back what it used to?
I used to be an absolute machine behind the wheel.
Like I remember one time I was in Kansas and I had a friend in D.C.
And he's like, I want you come out?
We'll just, we'll hang out.
I was like, okay.
And I got in the car and drove 21 hours by myself.
And I just never didn't think anything of it.
And now I don't even like going to Fairfax.
That's like 30 minutes away.
Yeah, it's only like 40 minutes.
That's the Beltway.
Who's doing that?
Maybe we shouldn't be doing the show.
What I'm saying is, are none of us qualified?
Well, okay, well, still the whole premise of this show is, you know,
we thought we'd share and talk about some of the songs that we play and listen to when we're on the road,
because this is road trip season.
And we've got some categories.
I think we're going to, and some themes for some of the songs that we're going to play.
Might not get through everything, but let's just see where it goes.
Who wants to start?
So, should I start with kid stuff?
Well, that is one of the categories.
What do you play when you've got kids in the car?
Okay.
So I used to take solo road trips all the time.
But, you know, now I got a kid.
She's like five?
She's six and a half, which is important.
Yes.
And especially if we're going to do that eight-hour drive, I need to have something right at the front of that trip that's going to, like, get her motivated to get through it until she has iPad time.
Did you say iPad time?
Yeah, iPad.
So just to clarify, the entire road trip is not iPad time.
It's not iPad time.
You are a more disciplined parent than I.
I try.
I really do.
But anyway, she has fallen in love with Stro May.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
She loves Tremay, and in particular, the song Sante,
and I'm going to tell you why she loves the song after we hear a little bit of it.
To who we don't know not,
Rosa, Rosa, when we do the border, you need to, and you, Albert,
when we trink, you ramass the ver.
Seline, batter.
This is to vestiaire
Arlette,
Arrette,
You at a fete,
You la fete,
I would not have
Notte
For one
I'd love my
To those who
not have
To who
Noon not
This is interesting
Because I would not have thought
Oh, kid-friendly music
But hearing it now, obviously, yeah
It's bright, it's very catchy, it's very fun.
If I'm starting out a trip,
with my kid in the backseat.
I tend to go for this kind of mood.
But my suggestion, for those parents out there,
your kid is going to fall in love with this song,
and they're going to want to hear it eight times in a row.
So what I would suggest,
immediately follow this song with their second or third favorite song.
So you don't just get into a pattern of it.
Yeah.
So, like, you know, for my kid,
that'll be any number of Amy Grant songs from the 80s.
Or, like, Carly Ray Jepson.
She is your child.
She's very much my kid.
Is she into black metal?
No.
She doesn't go from that to Sabbath?
No, she hasn't really gotten to the heavy stuff yet.
Well, I wasn't going to do one strictly for kids, but I do have one that I play when the kids are in the car because they love it so much.
And this is going to maybe seem like maybe not immediately kid-friendly, but I can explain.
Oh, yeah.
How does it best, dude?
Orphid, son of a whore and a side of...
Barretted kid friendly.
...in the middle of a forgotten spotting the Caribbean by Providence and Parvarist and Squalor.
Grow up to be a hero and a scholar.
Okay, so maybe it's obviously Alexander Hamilton from Hamilton, maybe for slightly older kids,
mine are 10 and 13.
They love this song so much because it is the perfect sing-along.
Like I put this on and they immediately sing.
both of them together, and my wife, along with every lyric.
I think having a group sing-along is so important when you're in the car with other people.
I was going to talk about sing-alongs because I think that's a really, really important part of the family road trip.
And part of teaching your children to be goobers.
Yeah.
And I mean, I'm serious.
They ham it up in this, like, when this song takes off, like, around the part where, oh, yeah, it's here with Leslie Odom, Jr.
ground they said this kid is insane man took up a book collection just to send him to the main man
get your education don't forget from when you came and the world's gonna know your name what's your name
they sing everywhere and they're in character they love it i never in a million years would have thought
oh this is the one song i can get the whole family behind oh yeah i'm not surprised at all and i think
the hamilton cast album is a great example of something that works really
really, really well on road trips, which is music that has a theatrical quality to it that tells a story.
Definitely.
And that that helps pass the time.
Big part of what you're trying to do on a road trip.
You're trying to turn 12 hours into nine and a half hours.
And so you put on the Hamilton cast album.
And you're trying to get everyone as animated as possible, right?
Because that also makes the time pass a lot faster.
Yeah.
If you've got younger kids, there's some moments in this song where you've got some questions you need to answer.
particularly in that opening
opening
whatever.
What's a bastard?
And some stuff a little bit later on.
But yeah.
Another one for our family was
Bemore Chill.
Bemore Chill was a
Broadway production that had
a cult following on streaming
and that really caught the
imagination of a lot of Gen Z kids.
Often, like if I'm desperate,
if I'm tired, you know, and I'm in the car
with the kids or my partner or
you know, whatever, you put that on
and immediately two, two and a half hours are gone.
Is there something from Be More Chill you wanted to play,
or did you have something else you wanted to do for kids in the car?
So Be More Chill for those who don't know,
it's a Broadway production about a pill
that this kind of nerdy kid could take in order to be cool.
And his best friend, Michael, sort of gets left behind in the process of that.
And so one of the iconic songs from that cast album
is called Michael in the bathroom.
I am hanging in a bathroom at the biggest party of the fall.
I could stay right here or disappear, and nobody'd even notice at all.
I'm a creeper in a bathroom, cause my buddy kind of left me alone.
But I'd rather fake people.
rather fake peeve than stand awkwardly or pretend to check a text on my phone.
Everything felt fine when I was half of a pair.
Now through no fault of mine, there's no other half a bit.
That pill that you were talking about that makes you cool, is that a real thing?
Tell me more about that. Is that available?
Is that a fictional item? I mean, recommendation for those.
who are suddenly like, oh, be more chill, I remember that.
There is a be more chill tiny desk that is really moving and sweet
and that brings a bunch of the original cast.
Well, Stephen, I don't know if you remember this,
but back when you used to do a regular column called The Good Listener,
this was actually a question that you considered one time.
I think it was a question that a listener sent in,
and the question was, with kids in the car, who controls the stereo?
Do you remember writing about that?
I do.
I think I had to cop to the fact in that column.
that I don't control the stereo when I'm driving.
But you said, and I'm going to quote you here, you said,
and when listening to music purely for pleasure on, say, a family road trip,
it's most fun to stick to songs we'll all enjoy with an emphasis on Formosapion by Abiotic.
I actually don't know that.
Oh, Robin, I'm sorry.
Would you like to hear it?
Oh, sure.
We'll do that.
And then I will...
I once burned this.
song to a CD, and it just says, uh, kids mix. And it's just the one song. So the, so if we listen to the
entire nearly five minutes of Vermosapien, you know, and it would end, the CD would kind of go
and then it would start over. We're like, oh, let's, or like, oh, you know, we should skip to the next
track. And I would skip to the, I mean, full dad mode. Yeah, no, that's classic. You know, I used to do
that when I would drive them to school all the time.
But the most important line you have here, and you say this at the very end, you say, but the tie, the tie always, always, always goes to the driver.
So I want to raise, if there are ground rules for how you pick music in the car, can we all agree on the most important rule is that the driver chooses?
Do we agree on that?
Yes.
The driver chooses, I think, is generally a good rule.
but there are sub rules in my car.
I am not allowed to fiddle.
I'm not allowed to like be touching screens.
So I always, you have to be eating.
Yes.
So I always, I literally do boxes of CDs.
But I always have a little stack.
I refresh it every couple of months.
And yeah, it's just I had to be able to grab one of those and stick it in and not be fiddling around with my phone trying to find us.
song that I want to play. Do you have something that you get to play because you're the driver
that you otherwise might not get to play? Yeah. This song is normally meant for solo time,
but occasionally I can sneak it in if there are others in the car. And it is the song,
Mystery by the Wipers. Does it sound like Jonathan Richmond to you? Yeah, you hear that. Sure,
yeah, totally. So this came out in 1980, I think, from the album Is This Real? Yeah. This is a great example
of how maybe music was actually pretty great in the 80s,
and I just wasn't hearing any of it,
because this was not on the radio where I was growing up.
Yeah, I've been on a real wipers kick this year.
It's basically all I have in the car.
Like, if I'm in the car by myself, this is what I am blasting.
Because it's full of energy.
It's existential as hell.
It's asking big life questions in every single song.
So when you're in a car and you're on the highway,
and you're in your head,
you want to scream along to somebody
who's also feeling of a frustration
and mystery of this world.
And so the wipers, especially the album,
Is This Real, is like perfect for that.
I think one of the categories
could also be music to get you there faster.
Yes.
This song could fall under that.
I think for my pick for,
The Driver gets to decide that rule.
I think I'll go with this.
Come on, guys.
Dee Lee Dan? You know this, right? My old school?
I've never, I've tried.
I'm aware of their work.
No, I've ever and out again, it's like coffee.
I don't drink coffee, but every few years I'll try it.
Just to see how I feel about it and see if anything's changed.
And much like coffee, Steely Dan has not changed.
It's still coffee.
Still the exact same thing.
Well, I would, this is my old school.
from their album count down to ecstasy.
Oh, Robin, I hate to agree with Lars.
Neither of you, neither of you know what you're talking about.
I know, this has been a blind spot for me in my whole life.
I think my impression of Steely Dan was cast in Amber from like reeling in the years.
And I hate that song.
Okay.
This is not...
Can I, can I share what Steve Alpini used to say about?
Steve Elpenny.
Okay.
What?
He used to call them a wedding band that really needs to try.
Oh, my God.
First of all, they're not a cheesy band.
I think that word gets thrown around.
They are so weird.
They are a very weird band.
Their lyrics are incredible, often complete, like, nonsense.
And the musicianship across their records, you know, they worked with so many incredible studio musicians.
Next level.
I mean, listen to the horns.
Listen to the horns on this song.
California
The horns on this are sick
And also the lines like
I'm sorry California tumbled into the sea
That'll be the day I go back to Ann and Dale
All time great song
But clearly
You feel much the same way
The rest of my family does
Lars and I are the kids in the back of the car
begging you to change it
Because I never get to
I mean they all just have to sit there and fume
When I put Steely Dan on
You know
It wakes me up
It takes me back and lifts me up.
You know, their 2000 album, Two Against Nature,
maybe one of the only times the Grammys finally got it right.
Beat out Radiohead's Kid A for album of the year.
Beck's Midnight Fultures, M&M's the Marshall Mathers LP.
Paul Simon's, you're the one.
They beat that one out for album of the year, too.
But whatever. Steely Dan.
Love Steely Dan.
You know who else on the team loves Steely Dan?
Felix Contreras, I can drop any random line from a Steely Dan song to him and he'll immediately pick it up.
I knew you're not my only friend who loves Steely Dan.
I knew there were also people whose tastes I respect.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Okay, Stephen.
What's next here for our road trip mix?
Well, for many years, my kids just had to get used to the fact that, you know, when I was the driver and they were little kids, I had complete.
control. And when my partner, Katie, Katie Presley used to be on this show. When Katie moved in and started
joining us on road trips, some changes had to be made as dictated by Katie Presley. So we started a mix,
first on iTunes, then on Spotify, called Katie is in the car. If you Google Katie is in the car,
Spotify is a public playlist. It's got like 2,000 saves. So other people do use this. And
It's bangers.
I will say not small kid friendly.
But, you know, one song that everyone in the family can agree on, that is an anchor of Katie's in the car, is this one.
Team flossing in the metal, babit, baboomba-dun da-ba-dunda, bababababat-dun da'abababat-dun da'ababababat-dun da.
Team's lost in the metal.
The games in a higher level.
Dimensions we in the several, you see, we get them together.
Is this Justin Bieber's What Do You Mean?
Or?
You're scanning.
You're scanning the kiddies in the car.
I'm looking at the kiddie's in the car playlist.
So that is Tunday Alanaran from an album from 2015 called Transgressor.
And I think it's actually kind of in the spirit, Lars, of the Stromay song that you were playing.
Oh, sure.
Where there's just like, there's just sounds whizzing from every corner of the speaker.
It's got a jumpy quality to it, and it eventually just blasts into this huge anthemic chorus.
It's like we're never satisfied, right?
You know, sometimes it comes to music late, but my personal opinion has always been music comes to you when it should.
So I was in a thrift store one day, saw Shania, Twain's come on over, and I was like, hey, I know like a couple of here.
songs. I like those songs. Let me pick
this up. Ended up having
a revelation about Shania
Twain. I mean, you were the godfather
of Rose Wave, man. I mean... This is true,
but I just never spent time with
this particular album, and
it's just full of A
and A plus songs.
Let's go with the song that everybody
knows.
Let's go, girls.
Come on. I'm going
out tonight. I'm being
all right.
Going to
I don't.
We need to raise my voice.
Yeah, I want a screaming shout.
Mingoing fishies.
Yeah.
I don't know this song.
What?
How?
This is like, how do you?
I just don't know this song.
You said, the one song, everybody knows.
I was like, no, I don't know.
I don't know this song.
I don't know this song.
I don't, I can't, I haven't listened to a lot of Shania Twain.
I don't listen to the radio very much.
I certainly wasn't in the 90s when I think this came out.
Yeah.
Yeah.
This is a total 90s.
just not remotely what I was listening to in the 90s. I just assumed this song was on the wind.
I mean, I was a college radio music director. I wasn't like necessarily listening to a ton of the
radio. You were playing this on college radio? No, I'm just saying this song was on the wind in a way that was
impossible to avoid. Well, if you didn't have a TV and you didn't listen to the radio and you got all
your news from a printed paper like me at the time, I just, yeah, I just totally miss this.
I don't dislike it. Yeah. How's it then you know?
It's joyful. I hate it.
I think this is like my hot take, but I think this album in particular, come on over, is the blueprint for Taylor Swift's entire career.
Interesting.
Especially the era when she went from country to pop.
Yeah, certainly the straddling of the two genres feels like it was a blueprint.
That's interesting.
Well, let me play something that I am certain everybody actually knows, unlike maybe that's sort of.
The very obscure song that is like certified diamond by the R.I.
For those, don't get to enjoy this.
We need to paint a picture with words, Mars.
Robin is currently air trumming but also air guitaring.
Dancing, standing.
Wait for it, wait for it.
Doing the solo.
Oh, I'm breathless.
Pat Travers, I'm going to kick booty, right?
Come on.
I know.
This is the song for everybody in the car?
No, no. This is the song for everybody in the car?
This is the category, songs that'll get you there faster or wake you up.
This is an absolute heart attack of a song from the guitarist Pat Travers.
Guys, guys, guys, got to check this out.
I've always known about you, Robin, that there is, like, this part of you.
There's County Fair Rock Robin.
Yeah, well, there's also, like, Billy Joel Dad, Robin.
Yeah, that's fair.
There is maybe more guitar wankery per second in this one song than anything.
that has ever been written.
Did you not grow up listening to Joe Satriani
the way I did?
The song is ridiculous.
And I can't help it.
I absolutely love it.
Many memories of listening to this song,
both on the road and in the parking lots
that we'd all hang out in,
in our cars wherever we had.
This is in Abilene, Kansas, yeah.
Ooh.
Tasty.
Pat Travers, I'm Guan to Kick Booty.
Robin, if you didn't already have kids, two kids would be assigned to you.
Oh, my children hate this so much.
This is also under the category of I get to play whatever I want if I'm driving.
Oh, anyway, Stephen, where do you?
I guess you get to play something else here.
All right, well, you know, one trick to pulling off a family road trip is to meet the other people in the car,
way. My daughter...
Shia twang.
My daughter loves
90s, hard rock, and heavy
metal. And a few years back
she did the greatest thing
any child can do for a parent.
She said, Dad, can you
make me a mix? Yeah.
I really thought you were going to tell the story of when she came
to you and said, Dad, have you ever seen the human
centipede? I tell that story
frequently. She was about
11.
Have you ever seen the human centipede? I was literally
tucking her in at night had turned out
the light, kissed her forehead, and this
sweet voice cuts through the darkness.
Dad, have you ever seen a movie
called The Human Sons? Oh, God.
So Grace has always loved the darkness.
Clearly. And including the band
of the darkness. And so I made her a mix
of heavy music of the 90s called
Grace Against the Machine. Oh, that's awesome.
And it kicks off with this.
You go,
death row. What a
brother know, once again, back is the
incredible. I'm animal. The
It's a public enemy.
Number one, five, two, when it can say to you, what you're doing.
It's a public enemy.
Public enemy with anthrax.
Right, right.
So the song, later in the song, Chuck D, shouts out,
waxes for anthrax, still it can rock bells.
And it's like a shout out to anthrax in this song that is also praising like Eric B
and Rakeem.
And anthrax took this for the greatest honor imaginable that it was
and did kind of a version of the song for one of their albums
that pairs up, like Chuck D. wraps the first two verses, and then Anthrax kind of comes in and does the second two.
And it is, I think, just a wonderful marriage of the two sensibilities.
So this is a completely different vibe.
But one thing that I've been thinking about lately is, how do I soundtrack nighttime when I'm still on the road?
Maybe other people have knotted off in the car.
and I still need music that is driving music,
but maybe I don't need somebody singing or yelling at me.
But you can't, nothing that's going to make you fall asleep.
Nothing is going to make you fall asleep, so it still has to be engaging enough.
And so I immediately went to the band Unwad Sailor from the wonderful bassist and songwriter Jonathan Ford.
Yeah, this is good.
It's like, it's probably not going to wake anybody else up.
Right.
It's not going to put you to sleep, but it's got enough drive to sort of lift you up and kind of energize you.
Yeah, it's a good pick.
There's a lilt to it.
Yeah, yeah.
And this is from a record called Cruel Entertainment.
The song's called Monster Collecting.
Perfect for that moment in the night where you got a lot of thoughts running through your heading.
You need to collect them a little bit, but you don't need somebody else telling you what to think.
So it's like it's good meditative but driving music.
Well, if we're going to do nighttime music, I brought something.
that I think is sort of the ultimate driving song.
It's perfect for night, but actually you could probably do it just about any time.
But I often think about it when I think about nighttime music.
I'm literally never having you on the show again if you guys don't know.
Robin, you just grew a Hawaiian shirt.
Alman Brothers.
This is Midnight Rider from their album, Idaho Wild Side.
I just like the romance demeanor.
The character you are playing, this entire episode,
is Homer Simpson yelling out the car to his kids.
For more about grand funk, consult your local library.
Is that Homer?
The Homer Palooza episode.
I actually watched that recently with my kids,
and I thought everything that Homer played for them was amazing.
The competent drumwork of Don Brewer?
The Allman Brothers actually have a lot of great driving music.
I would say if you're not going to do Midnight Rider,
a great runner-up is the song Southbound.
I'm assuming you guys know the song Southbound.
It all just sounds like Steely Dan playing Reelan in the years.
There's this great piano part to Southbound,
and I remember listening to this song one time.
I was on the highway.
I was in my VW bug, driving home from college.
It was a long drive.
And I had this song blasting.
And it got to the piano solo.
And I was air playing the keyboard.
Sure.
Along with this.
And I'm just jam it's on.
Yes.
And I see out of the corner of my eye, this other car slowly comes up alongside me on the highway.
And I look over and the guy in the passenger seat of the car is staring right at me.
He's kind of sitting sideways.
And he is airplane the piano.
mocking me
making he had seen me
playing the keyboard
on my invisible keyboard
over the steering wheel
and it made
last time I ever played
the invisible keyboard in my car
he totally ruined it for me
oh
now I'm
yeah and unless I'm
sometimes I'll just go out and sit in my car
and in the driveway
and just play the song and listen to the song
and play. Playing air keyboard
while crying
playing the air keyboard while crying
and playing the air
keep bored over it. Anyway, Almond Brothers, Midnight Rider, great song. Everyone should listen to it.
I think we all have maybe one more thing that we're going to play here.
Well, what I thought I would go with is the go-to sing-along in the car for my partner, Katie,
this song by the band Lake Street Dive. And when this song comes on, everybody stops.
Katie goes, mimics the spraying her throat.
Sure.
Oh, yes, of course.
And proceeds to belt this out at the top of her lungs.
Would it be true to say that I ordered you?
Or is it you?
But I can...
Can Katie sing this?
Can she sing?
You know, she can hold her own.
She's certainly, like, the notes are in the correct order.
I mean, Rachel Price, the singer for Lake Street Dive, that's...
She's a tough act to match.
Sure, yeah.
But what is fun about that song as a sing-along is it's just a completely committed vocal.
And I think that's the most fun part of like late-night sing-along is you just lean your whole self into the song.
And you're with your family who love you unconditionally.
That is a fun, pick me up, wake up late-night communal.
Everybody's just kind of wired and weird and just committed to the bit for the moment.
Yeah.
That is a really fun place in the late night road trip experience.
So a lot of what I've been hearing that we have not named as a category is can you air instrument to this song?
So I feel like.
And if you can, then it's in?
Yeah.
So, like, Robin, you had your Travers thing.
Yeah.
Well, and the Allman Brothers.
And the Almond brothers.
And Stephen, during the Public Enemy song, you were like, I saw you rap.
So I will enter my song into this category.
With all due respect to the late Ozzy Osbourne,
I have a very special Dio-shaped place in my heart
for Ronnie James Dio-era Black Sabbath.
And so turn up the night.
Let's do it, Robin.
Okay, fine.
This is totally erratory.
Oh God, that face, Lars.
You mentioned stank face on the other recent show we did.
And now I've seen it with my own two eyes.
It's a thing.
This whole album Mob Rules is awesome.
I would have gone with the title track myself is my favorite one.
Can't go wrong.
Yeah.
And Dio's post-Sabbat stuff is excellent.
Oh, Dio, solo, Solo, Dio.
Holy Diver.
Oh, my gosh.
Forget about it.
It's the sound of Iola, Wisconsin in 1986, or whatever it was.
You also, Lars, you did a whole playlist of metal for driving years ago.
Many years ago, the NPR music team did a whole series of songs for road trips.
Mine was just simply called Heavy Metal Road Trip.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Well, Stephen mentioned the importance of sing-alongs.
I think another thing that is really important is something that taps into the nostalgia well.
Sure.
Something from your youth, particularly your teen years, I think, anything that takes you back,
because it'll spark memories, which sparks conversations.
And anything from that, you know, from that time in your life always leads to more song picks because it makes the other person in the car think of you.
You know, Stephen, you've mentioned all these great playlists you have.
I have one on my computer, and it is called No One Needs to Know This.
And in the No One Needs to Know This playlist, you will hear this one.
Don't you forget about me?
So the lead singer Jim Kerr, he intended to write more lyrics for the song.
And those, although, hey, all that was like supposed to be a placeholder.
And then he goes into the studio and it does.
And they're like, you know what?
That sounds pretty good.
Print.
I didn't know that.
Yeah, let's just go with that.
But you know, this whole song, so they did not write it.
Simple Minds did not write it.
A music producer who was working on the film wrote the song,
Simple Minds initially turned it down.
Then they went to like Billy Idol
Turned it down. Corrie Hart
Turned it down.
I could hear Corey Hart or Billy Idol
Pulling this song off.
Brian Ferry turned it down.
All of them could have pulled this song up.
They eventually go back to Simple Minds.
They're like, come on, man.
You guys got to do this.
So Simple Minds very well-elected.
Come on, Cory Hart turned this down.
So they were like, okay, fine, we'll do it.
And it ends up being this massive hit.
It's an anthem of a generation
and instantly take it.
people back to that time. And this song and this whole soundtrack is now 40 years old.
It's celebrating its 40th anniversary this year came out in 85. Anyway, so yes, I'm admitting
that I have a playlist called No One Needs to Know and it is full of all of the 80s pop songs
that I actually really, really love. And this is one of them. I could have gone with Crowded House.
Maybe Don't Dream It's Over. Oh my God, anything by Crowded House. Yeah, squeeze, tempted.
Anyway, lots of great stuff.
We'll put all these songs and anything else that we can think of
into a road trip playlist that people can find on Spotify.
A very confusing road trip playlist.
What is happening?
Pat Travers, Chuck D.
Strom A.
Stromay.
Public enemy.
Yes.
But these are guidelines.
Yes.
This is a way to inspire you to make your own mix.
For your road trip, yes.
All right, so we'll go out on this.
Lars Gottridge, Stephen Thompson.
Thanks as always.
Thank you.
Thank you.
And for NPR music, I'm Robin Hilton.
It's all songs considered.
